NYTimes: Black Britons Know Why Meghan Markle Wants Out

"I'm a victim," more of the same shit, always a victim

Why the fuck can't anyone take responsibility for the poor choices they make?

How can Meghan play the race card? Hasn't she got under a lot of white men and workd her way up? Is she in Canada planning her exit from white Harry now?

She is a victim. The press even had a cartoon with a monkey pictured as her child. William and Kate recently spent 80,000 a week (US) in the Caribbean and the Daily Mail raved about their fun vacation! Imagine if Meghan and Harry had done the same? The Mail called Meghan a murderer because she likes avocado toast. Interesting that they are living on Vancouver Island as well. So much for the rumours of them heading to Beverly Hills. She's a granola yogi like her mum and I LOVE it.

Who gives a shit about racism? Grow the fuck up.

POC drama

The Datalounge is a cesspool of racism

She was truly an outsider, and despite her light skin, too many people referred to her black ancestry in a negative way. Hell, even if she had been a pure white American, she still would've gotten plenty of negative comments.

I hope they go to Canada instead of the US. We have far too many superficial, annoying celebrities here already.

Ugh I can't stand all the POC drama. Why these POCs don't move to a POC country if whites are so terrible? Why everyone wants to live in a western country?

Indeed R8, we have sufficient.

R4 are you fucking kidding me?!

R9 or how about you go away and stay away? AMERICA IS NOT YOURS

How is she black? Looks white adjacent. Italian or Spanish.

Her mother is black. Her dad is white.

The guy that made the chimpanzee tweet looks like your typical past-his-prime, over-the-hill (and bitter about it) Datalounger.

R9 proves this paragraph true

“In Britain’s rigid class society, there is still a deep correlation between privilege and race. The relatively few people of color — and even fewer if you count only those who have African heritage — who rise to prominent success and prosperity in Britain are often told we should be “grateful” or told to leave if we don’t like it here.“

While I agree there was definitely racism, I also agree with R1 calling MM...and Harry out for the "victim" thing. Both are true. IMO the tabloids are filth. But they ought to be treated like the trolls they are and ignored. Instead Meghan and Harry have become the story. I also can't help but see that the true beneficiary of all this mess is Andrew who announced just today that his top aide, just got a "legal settlement " in the y6 figure range, and is leaving the palace employment. She is going to be the CEO of Andrew's scheme to exploit new tech start ups...which he is being allowed to keep. even though it is no longer associated with the Palace. And if you look at it rationally, the whole time this Epstein business has been reaching it's hottest temperature, the DM and other tabloids have been ranting about Meghan and Harry.

The Sussexes want to live lives of purpose and make the world a better place. They want to inspire. But instead all the public is talking about is the mess. They can't accuse the Royal Family of pushing them out, when they were the ones who decided not to go to Balmoral. I get it. She was a new mother, so maybe she gets a pass on that.

But then to totally miss Christmas? Seven weeks abroad, on a break? That website and the other legal stuff they put in place didn't happen overnight. They have been working, and planning, and talking to William and Charles about this for months. So when someone in the Palace leaked it, they moved forward to get ahead of the leak.

But there has to be some give to this. Maybe some of the lesser Royals were rude to them, but they have Charles and Camilla, and William and Catherine for starters, and they need allies inside that family, not be burning bridges. Harry needs to man up. Grow up. Meghan cannot possibly be a stranger to racism, tabloids, the Royal Family or celebrity. And Harry has known from birth that William was the Heir to the Throne and Harry was the spare.

Whatever you may think of him, Harry in the past has always been more popular than his brother. So they were never going to be a "team." The way the Monarchy works is that at some point there would be an "orderly transition." Charles being regent in all but name, and William being his #2. The role they've been trying to carve out for Harry and Meghan was to emphasize their role in the Commonwealth.

Look. "Stepping back"and getting off the Queen's payroll is fine. Living part time in Canada is fine. Shit. Beatrice was living in NYC for a while. Earning income on their own is also fine. But if Harry and Meghan want to do damage control, and stop this trainwreck, they need to be seen with members of the Royal family in friendly casual settings...even if it's staged...and they need to go about TRADITIONAL Royal activities, like memorials, ribbon cuttings,and other stuff. They need to alternate the traditional role with their"more progressive" bullshit to calm this down.

And no more leaks or disastrous interviews. Please. Because right now, IMO their future depends on repairing this because their popularity and the good will they have generated is being pissed away, and their stock has taken a plunge. Meghan needs to understand the game that's being played and stop participating in it.

And her running to Canada right now is not a good look.Right now she should be seen visiting with Catherine and the kids wishing Kate Happy Birthday. Acute candid photo of Archie and Louis would sure do the trick. The worst thing she can do is help HArry burn his bridges with the family. Harry is not stable. He needs his father and his brother. He may not think he does, but he does. And Charles has always been there for him.

She's mulatto! Not black.

A white obnoxious golddigging famewhore who doesn't want to do any of the work or follow any of the rules but still wants all the benefits and who tries to turn her husband against his family and keeps him isolated away from them would be treated differently, we think.

Harry's gonna ditch her mulatto ass and crawl back to England within 3 years. She will wind up with Leo.

The indigenous people of the UK are white. Everyone who is not white don't belong in Britain or Europe. Africa for africans, Asia for asians and Europe for europeans. This is how things should be.

They weren't pushing her out and trying to keep him lol. They'd push them both if that's what they wanted. But that isn't what's happened.

They don't care, H&M are middle aged adults they can do what they want to do, NO ONE is stopping them. Head out to Canada, LA, wherever, be happy, send a Christmas card once a year and all will be well. Call once in a while perhaps, send pics of the kid.

What is NOT going to be allowed: selling access to the royals; MERCHING off the royal connection or titles (aka "SussexRoyal"); taking ANY taxpayer $ while not living in the UK or working for the BRF and the public; co-mingling their royal roles where they represent the UK and the monarch with private income production deals or having any appearance that there's a connection; using connections to TQ, the BRF or their titles to make private business deals or mercenary appearances.

THESE are the sticking points. Always have been, will be. Until there's a firm contractual deal in place re their titles and roles, and what's allowed or not, they keep themselves stuck in limbo. Clear the air, clearly define themselves as private citizens with no royal role (they'll still be private family members, as opposed to public members - there's a difference) and they can DO AS THEY WISH whenever they wish. No one is keeping them anywhere lol.

The tabloids are shit but let's not pretend that Diana, Fergie, Sophie and Kate were not treated pretty similarly by them. They are playing the race card to appeal to the "woke" crowd but one day soon they will have overplayed it and it will spectacularly backfire on them. As a royal watcher, I cannot wait to enjoy the downfall of this grifter--just as I enjoyed watching the downfall of the greedy Princess Christina of Spain and her husband.

The only reason Harry's even back in the UK, holding "talks" with his dad and grandmother, is to try to have his cake and eat it: to try to work out a deal to keep his dukedom, keeps his dad's funding of his lifestyle, keep his royal role semi-intact, while also simultaneously living it up as a private citizen in North America, making deals and earning income off that same public royal role and granted dukedom.

Do you think he'd be back in the UK otherwise? Would anyone here speak to their aged father and 93 yr old grandmother before moving with their own family? No, they'd just up and move and then tell them. He could do the same. He's trying to keep all the goodies and not do what's needed to keep them.

The only sane outcome is to have all titles and royal workload, and public funding & housing renounced, Charles agree to pay for private protection and grant them some 'seed' funding - from his private accounts -to get started, and happily send them on their way with best intentions and wishes. They're adults, they're on their own!

Maybe they hate Markle because she forces an understanding on their part that they are themselves little more than grifter parasites living off the public. She makes it a little too real. No wonder they wanted her gone.

Whatever. All these super woke people of color always end up with a white man once they make it.

R23, they are not playing anything , hon. Insidious racism in the UK is very real, stop trying to brush it under the carpet.

I'm sure the native people of India and South Africa and Australia and Ireland constantly wish the English had stayed the fuck home.

R26, sure, like MIchelle Obama for example?

[quote]Insidious racism in the UK is very real, stop trying to brush it under the carpet.

yes it is real, and a valid problem.

it doesn't apply in this instance. This is a family situation centering on money and power, and access to it. Period.

And Beyonce? Kerry Washington?

Ha! Kerry Washington was the biggest snow queen in Hollywood up until a few years back. She's dated plenty of white guys.

She's got a fine husband now and that's great. But don't state she's never interracially dated.

Oh please, racism against Meghan was negligible and she was initially welcomed. Americans really need to stop seeing everyone else through their own filters.

R28, and the people of Sudan, Kenya, Ghana, Egypt, Cyprus, Nigeria, Hong Kong, Barbados, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, UAE, Uganda, Jamaica, Pakistan, Trinidad and Tobago, ........

Afua Hirsch, who wrote that article, is a hardline dogmatist who writes for the Guardian.

The fact that a racial slur against biracial people was used twice on this thread and no one noticed or cared is proof of Datalounge’s racism R18 R 20 gets an FF from me

R32, well, when you are young you want to have some fun but then later in life you need to settle down and she has done very well.

@R33, says the Briton

R21 Tell that to the colonizers who displaced everyone.

R32 Some people eventually come home for good.

R31, And Viola? And Oprah?

R32 Kerry dates who she is attracted to and connects with. Race doesn’t matter (and shouldn’t). I also have dated all types of men, and I am white. I have been with white men, black men, Hispanic men, etc. I have only never been with a Middle Eastern man but it’s because I don’t know many.

R29 Barack Obama identifies as a black men. Sure hes mixed, but he sees himself as a black man, and Michelle has always referred to him as black. Even when she first met him.

Mixed people know what's up, they know white Society will give them a hard time.

R43, you've got the wrong end of the stick. I was saying that a woke educated black woman like Michelle hasn't chosen a white guy as her mate.

[quote]I'm sure the native people of India and South Africa and Australia and Ireland constantly wish the English had stayed the fuck home.

Their countries would still be in the Stone Age if not for the British.

R42 know one will ever understand a black man or woman the way another black person would. That is a fact. Being black or even black adjacent (mixed) is a very unique life experience. People can interracially date marry all they want. But the truth of the matter is, if the person next to you is white, they are never going to truly be able to connect with you. I've had to many friends in interracial relationships over my 31 years of life. And all of those relationships ended in disaster.

White people have a very hard time getting beyond themselves and being able to understand what being black is truly about. You can listen, but you'll never truly understand, and not understanding is going to cause a whole lot of issues eventually.

Trust me I know. The worst thing a black person can do is get into a relationship with a white person. I've seen some ugly shit come from interracial relationships. And many of the people I know have said, never again.

I don't blame them.

R44 I got you, my bad.

You're fucking vermin R20

r46 the thing is -- we don't care what being black is all about, and we never will.

Michelle Obama chose to marry a half white man...of course. A half-white man raised by whites no less.

Obama can "identify" as he pleases but he's bullshitting no one.

Part black- part white- I just consider her to be a blight.

I have numerous friends of mixed backgrounds who have been very successful in the lives. They all seem to share the ability of not using their pedigree as an excuse for anything.

R50, that chose a black woman as his wife — that speaks volumes.

Barack and Michelle

Meghan is 1/4 black, 3/4 white. So why the Black label?

[quote] Who gives a shit about racism? Grow the fuck up.

Yes who gives a fuck about homophobia? Who gives a fuck about ageism? Who give a fuck about any form of discrimination that hurts people and ruins lives. Yes we should just “grow up” and accept inequality, 2nd class citizenship. Why would any reasonable adult fight for a better life. You are so wise.

[quote] Who gives a shit about racism? Grow the fuck up.

Certainly not perpetrators like you.

R46, you are spot on. We whites can never fully appreciate the black experience. My white brother is married to a female poc from Guyana. He tells her she is "too sensitive" to racial slights; I tell her to leave him for another poc. I consider what my brother does to be gaslighting.

R49 You're telling me shit I knew from the word go.

That's nothing new.

Good thing I've always been smart enough to know, not to get into an interracial relationship. No relationship is perfect, but damn, interracial? Never.

[quote]We whites can never fully appreciate the black experience.

Of course not. Why should we?

I can't "fully appreciate" the Chinese experience either. Or "fully appreciate" the Indian experience. Or "fully appreciate" the Middle Eastern experience.

It all sounds pretty exhausting.

I am impressed Price Harry is standing by his wife.

There's an old saying in the south. "A white man can never tell a black man what it's like to be black, but a black man can always tell a white man what it's like to be white."

I agree with that sentiment completely. It's also a very unique dynamic view point if you understand it.

zZzZzZ go back to africa, fucking apes.

[quote]The indigenous people of the UK are white. Everyone who is not white don't belong in Britain or Europe. Africa for africans, Asia for asians and Europe for europeans. This is how things should be.

I wish you’d held this opinion back when Britain was pillaging resources from its African and Asian colonies for the crown. You’re certainly old enough to remember.

The british occupied Ireland for centuries. Ireland is a first world country now. Africa is a shithole because of africans. Stop using the colonization card, it's fucking tiresome. In the next fucking century these third world scum will still be talking about colonization. Get over it, for christ sake. If colonization is so fucking terrible, how America is the greatest country on earth? Whites build, black people tear it down. South Africa would be like Canada if whites were the majority

@R58, I bet you use that same 'empathy' with your partner. 'Putting yourself in someone else's shoes' regardless of what race, sexuality, gender, age, social class, (insert any new characteristic) is a basic exercise in emotional intelligence.

Then people say gay relationships are 'short-lived' lol

Markel has been put through hell. No wonder she wants out.

Sure, she married into the Royal Family, but she's not going to be a queen so she feels she has no responsibility to just sit and take it,

R53 Barack and Michelle are a lovely black couple and everyone can see that. No questions. He faced racism just like she did. But Meghan, like Rashida Jones, outwardly presents as a white woman even though the British public have made it clear to her that she’s not. It’s white people that have rejected Meghan, while blacks have embraced her. This is why even mixed people who don’t look black try to identify as black.

R59, it shows you they did not 'teach him well', he's too decent.

I wonder if he would end up like his mum.

[quote] Africa is a shithole because of africans. Stop using the colonization card, it's fucking tiresome.

Well, no.

Read the bestseller Guns, Germs and Steel. The poverty of countries today is directly related to where they are and what natural resources they have, African is right in the tropical zone so deals with diseases and undrinkable water, which take much of their financial resources. It's also lacking in the most demand natural resources. Europe, on the other hand, had native animals that were conducive to domesticating to farm.

Africans are just as smart as Europeans. Europeans just happen to be born in the right part of the world for financial success.

There is no such thing as "Black Britons". British people can not be black. They are just africans who happen to live in the UK. The same can be said for africans living in France, Germany and all over Europe. They are not and will never be europeans.

[quote] Michelle Obama chose to marry a half white man...of course. A half-white man raised by whites no less. Obama can "identify" as he pleases but he's bullshitting no one

I'm unsure of where exactly Obama bullshitted about who he is. In America, no matter who he was born from and who he was raised by, he's viewed as a black man

Ok, pro black SJW. Name one subsaarian african philosopher, one scientist, one painter, one writer and one composer prior to the 20th century. Just ONE.

[quote] If colonization is so fucking terrible, how America is the greatest country on earth? Whites build, black people tear it down.

Only Americans think the US is the greatest country on earth. Poor people want to come here because of the hype and the fact that the US will accept them, generally.

Blacks built America via slavery and cheap labor. The white billionaires are rich, but how many seeds did they plant or how many bricks did they lay?

Muriel, please take out the trash on this thread, or stop asking for people's money. Wasn't the new system supposed to rid us of some of these vile bigots?

[quote]I bet you use that same 'empathy' with your partner. 'Putting yourself in someone else's shoes' regardless of what race, sexuality, gender, age, social class, (insert any new characteristic) is a basic exercise in emotional intelligence.

And it'll never be enough.

So cut the bullshit.

The only thing that matters is to behave with basic kindness and manners to everyone regardless of their race.

The rest is just phony posturing.

The north is the basis of the United States, not the south.

R63

Darling, Ireland IS a shithole!

R68 it's no use, he/she is an obvious troll who knows nothing about economics or politics for that matter. FF' him/her and ignore

Yes, of course. "It's the racism". Because it's always, always, ALWAYS, about racism. I mean, "the racism". What else could it be?

R76 ah, the troll is Irish? That explains so much...

Hard to believe this thread is still standing. It will be gone soon though. Countdown 1, 2, 3......

I'm waiting for the SJW to name one subsaarian african painter, philosopher and scientist. Come on honey.

R78, here we go again

R74, ooh, hit a nerve, didn't I?

If indeed racism in Britain is the issue, why not stay in the UK and fight it - leading by example - rather than by heading to equally, if not more racist Canada and the US?

H&M's issue is the money: the BRF is not going to let them cash in, especially after the fiascos with Andrew and earlier with Fergie and Sophie Wessex by selling merchandise - or their opinions or "access" - on the basis of their royal connections. Nor are they happy with the kinds of people they could be dealing with, like secretive Russian billionaires with holiday hideaways on Vancouver Island. If the Harkles can't cash in, they have an income of about $400,000 a year. You and I could do just fine on that, I'm sure. They can't, not w/o taking everything on offer as freebies from their rich friends and as the saying goes, he who pays the piper calls the tune. The Royal Family doesn't like that idea at all.

Big Lizzy isn't going to let that happen and presumably Charles even less so. Parliament voted for Brexit to proceed. Britain's going to face some serious financial and logistical challenges in the year ahead. Paying public money so the spare can set himself up in an alternative court is not going to happen, not happily anyway. And if it becomes known that a lavish lifestyle comes courtesy of the Sovereign Grant, that too can be reduced if the British taxpayers don't think they're getting value for money from them.

Where is the sub saharan africa produced the greatest scientific achievements and greatest philosophers and artists troll? Where is he?

I don't think racism is the issue here (although the comments on this thread make it clear that racism is AN issue).

I think the issue is that neither of them feels like spending their lives waving and cutting ribbons and appearing on balconies and other stupid, meaningless things, particularly when racists are going to hate them anyway. And I can't blame them.

Why anyone is objecting to their decision is a complete mystery to me.

What a fucking load of codswallop.

The TIMES, of course, neglects to mention that she declared war on the British press a year before she and Harry were even engaged, that she behaved like a diva from Day One, that she insulted the Queen, and probably never at any time intended to stay long enough to have to curtsy to Kate and William, but to get as much A-list cachet, money, clothes as she could, then blow town crying "They made me! They made me!" after UK taxpayers of all colours renovated her expensive home.

She's a cold-hearted cunt, that's why she didn't work out well, not her fucking DNA.

I wonder if she has the same problem that many mixed race people report: neither side fully claims you. Has she never had black people reject her for being white? I haven’t heard that from her, but have heard that from many people who are half/part black. Or even those who are light-skinned black.

R86 - No one objects to their decision to leave.

People do object to their attempts to leave but with their titles, privileges, access to Papa Charles' money, and the recently renovated at taxpayer expense five-bedroom home on call as their "UK base".

^*People do NOT object to their decision to leave . . .

"Both sides were against me since the day I was born..."

[quote]R22 What is NOT going to be allowed: MERCHING off the royal connection or titles (aka "SussexRoyal")

Both Harry + Meghan ARE the royal family, through birth and marriage. It is part of their identity, part of who they are.

They can use that identity as they see fit, because it is part of them. If Black Betty doesn’t like it she can strip them of what titles etc. she can, or start a war, or a lawsuit... tho really, hasn’t she better things to do in her final years?

The Queen already fucked up her role in welcoming her new granddaughter-in-law. Does she want to keep digging?

I'm still waiting for the Africa is great troll come up with one african scientist and one african painter. Come on, just one. Is it that hard?

The more political correctness that gets pushed, the heavier the backlash will be. It's always like that.

SJWs act as if a country having natural resourses is this great miracle. Japan has no natural resourses and is GREAT! Stop with the silly excuses, nobody owes anything to africans.

R92, sweetie, that's not what the 'family firm' does. If you cause them trouble, they have you 'offed'

[quote] If Black Betty doesn’t like it she can strip them of what titles etc. she can, or start a war, or a lawsuit... tho really, hasn’t she better things to do in her final years?

The tabloids in Britain don't report news. They write scripts. They create and sell drama, even where none exists. And in that drama, someone has to be the hero (in this case, cute, white Kate) and someone has to be the villain (grasping, foreign black arriviste Meghan). And the sad thing is that the drooling racists that infest this thread lap it all up like starving hounds.

[quote]SJWs act as if a country having natural resourses is this great miracle.

And they never mention the fact that bitterly cold climates aren't exactly condusive to human life either, but those populations manage to create great cultures all the same.

I like how they think the BRF can tell them not to make money by being one. Sure, tell that to the pedo, the Ferg, the other little grifters like Brooksbank, making bank off the association.

As if anyone would hire the hideous princesses without the connection.

They can strip her of everything but her marriage to a Prince. This whole drama makes her bankable. Keep it up, BRF.....the more you whine and moan the more she makes bank.

R97, Kate Middleton is not an arriviste??! Mon dieu! Her whole family is!

"Harry, never take sides in public against the family again.

I think your brain's gone soft from all that comedy you play with that young woman.

Yes, Kate's an arriviste, and like most clever arriviste's she fit herself into the mold and proved she was on the Firm's side.

Kate wanted to be royal; Meghan wanted to be famous.

There's a fine but telling different. Now that Meghan's famous, she's not so keen on being royal (except in name only) and doing the drudgery anymore.

Kate, on the other hand, wants to continue being royal.

Hence, the Queen's ever increasing appreciation of Kate and incensed disgust at Meghan.

Yeah, I love how scamming, grifting Pippa is now given a pass. And that uncle of theirs? Another pedophile. It's in their blood.

R103, and the brother, don't forget the brother. The "entrepreneur"

Hope this doesn't put a dent on Pippa's lifestyle

Hedge Funds are tricky

How is this thread allowed to go on this long with all the blatant racism ?

[quote] Of course not. Why should we? I can't "fully appreciate" the Chinese experience either. Or "fully appreciate" the Indian experience. Or "fully appreciate" the Middle Eastern experience. It all sounds pretty exhausting.

It probably is exhausting for you. Sociopaths are incapable of empathy.

It's the racism. I was born into a racist community and it's not that difficult to recognize the endemic, deeply ingrained truth of that particular sickness.

We can only try. Like a lot of people in recovery, I often catch myself being a racist asshole in my thinking, and so I can see it when others act out.

The actions or inactions of certain members of that family, and much of the public reaction on the internet press and on social media, proves why she's in Canada right now. There's racism everywhere, but I like Canadiens, particularly Montreal, and I find they do try harder.

Canada isn’t that bad on racism. They try to be better.

America and Europe are awful. Australia the worst.

R98, whatever fiction you want to tell yourself. I guess you are also the type who will expound on the superiority of the white race and such.....blah, blah, blah

[quote] the thing is -- we don't care what being black is all about, and we never will.

Yes, tell me about it.

R110, I think in the US there are exceptions, it's a big country and nations in Europe like France are not that bad

ACTUALLY, R98, colder climates can be a good thing, in a way, because the cold kills off disease-bearing mosquitos and puts a damper on the spread of certain diseases (most particularly malaria).

[quote]R86 neither of them feels like spending their lives waving and cutting ribbons and appearing on balconies and other stupid, meaningless things, particularly when racists are going to hate them anyway. And I can't blame them.

Agreed. AND, they don’t want to raise a child exclusively in that environment.

R112, you are making a mistake black people (anywhere) do not care what this non-entity says.

Says the oracle of black people everywhere, apparently. Sure, troll.

"Non-entity' is the tip off here. Racist reductionist language reducing a human being to object status.

R117, it takes one to know one

Trolls are human beings, too, R118, even if they have bad intentions and deserve the title.

The Africa is great troll couldn't come up with one single african philosopher, artist or scientist. I know the truth is painful, but SSA Africa would be a shithole with or without colonization. And what about Liberia? Yes, that country that was never colonized and still is one of the greatest hellholes ever. Ethyopia defeated the italians and their country is a shithole. Stop blaming other people.

Whereas 'non-entity' is something else entirely. Rather like the term 'chattel' - but without substance. There, but not really there.

SJWs, what is your excuse for the failure of Liberia? Tell me.

Americunts are 100% racist. Brits are 10 000% racist. Good for Meghan for leaving those fucks behind. They will be billionaires in no time.

[quote]The Africa is great troll couldn't come up with one single african philosopher, artist or scientist.

Boy, you're really a dog with a bone on this one, aren't you, buddy? But it's ok, you can stop now, we all realized you were an ignorant racist much earlier in the thread.

MM is the goddess of troll culling! Pranams!

[quote]It probably is exhausting for you. Sociopaths are incapable of empathy.

The best that I can do and be, is kind and considerate to others. To have good manners with everyone.

But to expect me to understand what it's like to be another race is silly. Of course I can pay lip service, the way most self-styled "woke" people do, but I don't have that need.

Yes! another one! Jai Jai Meghanistani! Jai Jai!

This is why no one takes the NYT seriously anymore. Six years ago the Economist reported that as of the 2011 census, the BME population was %14 of Britain and the mixed race people accounted for a further 6% of the British population. That was 19 years ago. Many of those %14 and 6% may now have kids of their own so we know the percentage has drastically risen and perhaps even doubled since 2011.

Britain is absolutely the least racist country I have ever lived in (I'm one quarter Indian). However, Britons do, by and large, categorically loathe Americans and make no bones about it. I think her Americanism, not her skin colour, is what Britons hate most about her.

From the Economist 2014:

"ZADIE SMITH, a novelist born to a black Jamaican mother and a white British father, recently recalled that when she was growing up in Willesden Green, a London district with a large immigrant population, “nothing could be more normal than a mixed-race girl”. The surprise, she said, was entering publishing and finding that people thought it unusual. Nobody could get that impression now: Britons are mixing at extraordinary speed.

The 2011 census revealed a country that is decreasingly white and British: England’s ethnic-minority population grew from 9% of the total in 2001 to 14%. But the biggest single increase was in the number of people claiming a mixed-ethnic background. This almost doubled, to around 1.2m. Among children under the age of five, 6% had a mixed background—more than belonged to any other minority group (see chart). Mixed-race children are now about as common in Britain as in America—a country with many more non-whites and a longer history of mass immigration."

Markle is not disliked because she's black. She is disliked because she's a whiney martyr who always plays the victim. She's an entitled, manipulative pain in the ass. Being black has nothing to do with it.

I'm in the midst of a job search. I hear all the time, "Thanks but no thanks," or It's not a good fit." The royal family is not a good fit for Markle, but she knew that going in given her age. She is not a young girl, and it just got worse. Markle is not Diana or Sarah who were basically thrown to the wolves in the first couple of years aftre marriage. Markle had her ass kissed, and she still was disagreeable and rude. When you are thrown into the lap of luxury, no the royal family will not be asking "if you're okay." Maybe they should, but it's not their way.

And by the way Markle, did you ever ask if any of them were okay? Did you ever ask if Kate was okay with three kids? Did you ever offer to babysit? Did you ever reach out to Beatirce or Eugenie and ask how they were doing with all the challenges the have had this past year? So, no one is going to ask yo if you're okay. You're the "woke" one. Maybe you should have made the first move. Being one-quarter black is a big irrelevant excuse for you being a bitch.

She wants out coz she wants $$$$$$$$$$$$.

That's all she ever wanted. Look at her track record of ex-husbands.

She's just using the race card to get what she wants ($$$)

[quote]The 2011 census revealed a country that is decreasingly white and British

Britain decreasingly British. What a sad thing.

Look! R129 is trying to school us all in the travails of struggling commoner in today's world and making Markle look ungrateful. We've seen it before. -9/10. You can spell!

You do realize you have better targets in the slags that have been there longer, right? Non? pauvre petit

R128, I don't care what you say. R123 is bang on the money.

R129,

[quote] Markle is not disliked because she's black.

Yes, keep telling yourself that. What has been published about her in the media in the UK for the past few years can only be described as racist hounding. So, get just lost...

People that celebrate shit like a tiny increase in the percentage of mixed-race children are racist clowns.

R135 Could you please post an example of this "racist hounding"?

Thanks.

Shift change!

R137, you should be able to identify it, it's similar to what you are doing on this thread, but directed directly at Meghan, ignoring the 4th wall.

R39 Of course. You can't post examples of the press' "racist hounding" because you're making up shit.

If it was so bad, there must be plenty of examples out there. Let's see them.

Thanks in advance.

I can remember precisely ONE headline in the UK mainstream press that I thought racist.

The rest of the time, people conveniently forget that Meghan was criticised for stuff she DID - along with her idiot husband. The assumption is, even if she does make gaffes, no one should point it out, because her Mum's black.

They cannot come up with a single racist headline to support their assertion that the British press is racist. I can, because I remember it, but it was the only one I saw. When Meghan comes out in awful clothes, badly done hair, extravagant price tags, pulls the Wimbledon Diva act, makes a gran scena about the fucking christening and the godparents - all criticism is shunted into the "racist" column.

Not one of these people will admit that she made a mess of being royal from the get-go, that the Queen had to take her aside because of how she treated staff, that she often dressed inappropriately and behaved inappropriately on tours, and that she and Harry couldn't be bothered to head up to Balmoral for a couple of days as the rest of the family does to show respect for the Queen and bond with the family traditions.

She's a calculating bitch and she made that obvious and she got called out for it. Suggesting that if she hadn't been mixed race no one would have cared is absurd.

This game has rules. She knew that when she married in. She married in to get her hands on the goods, and ignored the rules.

She got the press coverage she earned.

[quote] The TIMES, of course, neglects to mention that she declared war on the British press a year before she and Harry were even engaged

Link.

You sound like you need a psychiatrist.

R141 is mentally ill. Muriel, flush it.

IGNORE is not a friend to r141. The obsession is straight up scary.

I hate her so much. How dare she. That n-ella belongs in the third world.

Troll Pile UP! The shift change was something, but since I already had you blocked from a few hours ago, I guess you were all just taking a dinner break. How's the borscht tonight?

It would be the best thing if Harry went on the Maury Povich show, I have no idea if Maury is even alive, and revealed that no Charles is not the father. That would be the best thing ever.

It breaks my heart to imagine this n-ella touching Harry's precious and pure pale skin. The world is so unfair. Revolting.

I think it great that ole racist Britain is becoming less and less British and white. The 21st century is a game changer, and people are sick and tired of whites and the racism they have created and perpetuated for centuries on this earth.

That's going to be Britans karma. Karma for spreading their toxic English imperialism and colonizing the world, and the way racist way they went about everything. The universe will never let you escape what you've done to the others.

Martin Luther king said, the arch of justice is long but it bends towards justice. Justice is on the way. White Society will be made to eat every evil thing they ever done. There's a reason the drum beats are becoming ever increasingly loud as far as openly criticizing white people out in the mainstream open. People have had sufficient of the evil white society has given us for centuries. Their day has long since been over, and people just don't give a shit any longer. And Trump isn't helping anything either.

Even the words "white men" has become a bad word and they don't like it. But they've put themselves in this position. I look forward to the downfall of Great Britain, it's long over due.

Africa will always be a dirty shithole, resentful black.

[quote]“It’s the racism.“

Well, it's true. Brits are more racist than we all thought...

R150 Are made your precious lily white England isn't going to be white by the end of this century any longer?

You'll get over it bitch.

Africans have nothing, Europeans have everything. Europeans had a huge impact in the whole planet, ssa africans made no contributions to mankind. In the next centuries, people will still be amazed by the work of Rembrandt, Vermeer, Shakespeare, Bach and Wagner. Not to mention the science. Blacks are the most disastrous race of human history.

Somehow, I don't think things will work out the way you want them to, r149.

Still waiting to see some examples of the press' "racist hounding" of Meghan Markle.

Black people can whine and scream, but painting and music wil always be the major proof that European civilization is the peak of humanity.

The monkey pic. Unforgivable.

[quote]People have had sufficient of the evil white society has given us for centuries. Their day has long since been over, and people just don't give a shit any longer. And Trump isn't helping anything either.

Dear, whites still have all the money, all the industries...they're still inventing all the cool technologies, still making all the advancements in science and medicine. Still live in the nicest places.

They're not going to be replaced by anyone. Sorry to break it to you.

She was selling herself as a descendant of a slave from the beginning. So woke. Now it's emerged that the weak-willed, wrong-headed Obummer couple were the ones who advised this toxic duo. Yes, everyone who has been disillusioned with Obummer is racist.

Holy shit—if there’s any doubt what Meghan has faced as far as racism, check out every three or four posts in this thread. And they’re the ones who will argue that they’re not racist in the least. No, it’s not everyone, but it’s a lot.

A backlash against african invaders is coming to Europe. Boris Johnson is just the beginning. Black people have no place in the first world.

Blacks don’t belong in the British Royal Family.

The two slogans of the Meghan haters are: kkk is great great great. And any black is wack wack wack. They truly are disgustingly racist and uber white supremists.

I can't speak to what went on with the Royal Family and their crowd, do think she's been at the receiving end of a lot of racism from the press and public, almost all of it indirectly expressed.

I also think that if she thinks she can "fight" it by freeing herself from the rules the BRF has for dealing with the press, she'll only make matters worse. Much worse.

I am racist, so what? The left can not force me to feel attracted to black skin, black lips and black hair. My mind is free.

[quote]It breaks my heart to imagine this n-ella touching Harry's precious and pure pale skin. The world is so unfair.

And there we have it, the real issue here. Maybe you'll get your pale white life partner of your dreams one day, if you really really hope and pray for it. It's never too late, even for you!

There's a Brit media article I remember that claimed that EVERY ONE of Meghan's ancestors were slaves. WTF. That means half of her ancestors were slave owners since her dad was a cracker.

[quote]r141 Not one of these people will admit that she made a mess of being royal from the get-go, that the Queen had to take her aside because of how she treated staff, that she often dressed inappropriately and behaved inappropriately on tours, and that she and Harry couldn't be bothered to head up to Balmoral for a couple of days as the rest of the family does to show respect for the Queen and bond with the family traditions.

Here's the thing; she's an American. She doesn't owe the BRF shit. Had they made things more pleasant for her, she might have stuck around full time, and continued to garner the (dying) monarchy press, and younger fans. But the BRF blew it, starting with Blackamoorgate.

They forgot she's not someone like Kate, who's never really worked for anything and whose entire existence is dependent upon the monarchy. Meghan Markle is a grownup American whose being exists beyond a nod from the Queen. And luckily she's married to a man who sees life the same way - - as existing beyond Buckingham Palace.

Let's not forget Big Liz chose to house MM in Frogmore Cottage - when Frogmore Cotton Plantation is a famous tourist site in Louisiana, formerly worked by slaves.

Her little joke?

•Darling you can have relations with the darkies, or hold the darkie aids babies, but you can’t marry one”

It was that or listen to Willy's whining. Windsor is nicer, anyway. The nest of vipers in Kensington never left a stone unturned in their efforts to drive her out right from the start when she lived on the grounds.

Brit trolls must think we're blind to the outright viciousness.

They are whinps. Senior Royals my ass, they just don't want to do the duty. Think about it .... as "senior royals" every day of their lives they'd be expected to represent the Crown, appear at a school, an opening, act as if they are are involved, are caring. Every move photographed can be a drag. Just watch, they'll keep the English digs, but do nothing to earn it. Three years from now they'll be back in the fold. Quietlyl

This is the first MM thread I’ve read, but have seen references to them on other threads. Now I see what all the hype was about. I definitely won’t read another one. They seem to be crazy-magnets (I mean that for both sides of the argument.)

On the one hand it's depressing to watch DL turn into Gay Stormfront every time a person of color ends up in a scandal.

On the other hand it's most useful for blocking the many, many racist cunts.

Criticizing her $120k Dior dress is being a racist? So be it. The greedy bitch is a spendthrift and people are stating the obvious.

R175, yours is the first post that mentions the Dior dress. Want to take a gander on how many previous posters mentioned the word “mulatto”?

"She doesn't owe the BRF shit."

As long as she took their money, she DID. And quite frankly, as long as she hasn't paid back whatever she spent of their funds and is using their publicity value for her own purposes, she still owes them. Not as much as if she were still their dependent, but she as long as she's using them she owes them courtesy and respect.

Which won't happen.

[quote]r175 Criticizing her $120k Dior dress is being a racist? So be it. The greedy bitch is a spendthrift

I'm quite sure that's not what she paid.

R177 also believe the blacks owe the slave owner descendants for "taking care" of the slaves. Fuck off, racist asshole. We see through your racist veneer.

[quote]"She doesn't owe the BRF shit."

Uh...She owes the institution of the monarchy everything if her money making brand is called "Sussex Royal".

"In December, Harry and Meghan trademarked the "Sussex Royal" brand, including 100 items ranging from notepads and socks to counselling services."

[quote] Uh...She owes the institution of the monarchy everything if her money making brand is called "Sussex Royal". "In December, Harry and Meghan trademarked the "Sussex Royal" brand, including 100 items ranging from notepads and socks to counselling services."

How much does RJ Reynolds owe “the institution” for their Prince Albert brand.

She’s a very beautiful and sexy woman. Victim or not, I just know that she can drive a straight man crazy in bed and it is working for her. The power of pussy. I’ll give her another 5 years and he will get bored of her

[quote]In December, Harry and Meghan trademarked the "Sussex Royal" brand, including 100 items ranging from notepads and socks to counselling services."

That's not a proper name. Anyone who got there first could have trade marked the brand name "Sussex Royal" if they wanted to. It's not proprietary.

Will the queen sue me if I start beauty product line called Queen Lizzy?

Fuck off, r17. You aren’t in charge of what royals “should do.”

[quote]Anyone who got there first could have trade marked the brand name "Sussex Royal" if they wanted to.

We know that.

But if you're the Duchess of Sussex with a line of yoga pants and workout tights called "Sussex Royal"...uh... I think you might have chosen that name to cash in on your connection to the British Royal Family.

About the expensive dresses; do people realise that many of these celebrities — Meghan included — don't buy it themselves?? More often than not they are freebies from designers and fashion houses.

[quote]We know that. But if you're the Duchess of Sussex with a line of yoga pants and workout tights called "Sussex Royal"...uh... I think you might have chosen that name to cash in on your connection to the British Royal Family.

And? So what? They did hear dirty. Turnabout is fair play.

^her

The Sussex Royal logo.

Royal blue. With a crown. And an "M" imposed on an "H".

The marketing has begun.

I want a t-shirt and coffee mug!

LOL.....The New York times.....LOL They know why she wants out? Did they know why the Jews wanted out of Germany in the 1930s also?

Just because Africa supposedly was a shithole didn't make it ok to exploit its people and resources.

[quote]r11 But if you're the Duchess of Sussex with a line of yoga pants and workout tights called "Sussex Royal"...uh... I think you might have chosen that name to cash in on your connection to the British Royal Family.

She is IN the royal family. She and her husband ARE Sussex. Of course that would be their brand name.

And as for "cashing in," at least she isn't starting wars or killing people to get money/power, like royalty previously has done.

Where do we think Big Liz's enormous fortune comes from? Because she was such a nice lady everyone threw money at her?

R191, the article is written by a black British author. So it's not the NYT per se, but someone who knows about the matter. I don't think the NYT cares one way or another.

Let's not try to normalize Meghan or the damage that she's done.

I feel bad for the Queen, having to put up with this shameless grifter at her age, not to mention Andrew. She shouldn't have to be going through this in her nineties.

R192, was it? Is that the narrative you are going with?

Explorers from the medieval times such as scholars Ibn Battuta (circa 14th century) show a very different picture of parts of West Africa. So do the Portuguese and other European traders who exchanged goods with Africans in the West African region at that time too.

Medieval sculptures from what is present day Nigeria (circa 13th to 15th century?)

More naturalistic head sculptures from Ife in present day Nigeria also from 13th to 15th century AD

They show a very sophisticated and advanced knowledge and technique of metal smelting, that rivalled anything happening in Europe at the time.

The UK has an over-inflated view of itself vis-a-vis the rest of the modern world. It's full of old-boy networks keeping in place the status-quo. Once Brexit rolls around they'll find out how irrelevant they are in the 21st century world. I don't blame Meghan and Harry for abandoning that sinking ship.

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Akan goldweights from present day Ghana, known as the Gold Coast for obvious reasons.

The were used many centuries ago by the Akan people to weigh gold dust which was used as currency before notes and coins were introduced. Surprisingly, this particular one shows 2 gay men at it.

Another Akan gold weight, this one is in the British Museum in London

r201/r202 I guess you're trying to say they were some evolved, advanced civilization but that's not really the case.

Girl please. She has spent her entire life trying to be white. I say that as biracial person with a black mom and white dad.

Medieval sculptures from what is present day Nigeria (circa 13th to 15th century?)

My, my...how advanced!

That’s amazing @R201

The Kingdom of Benin founded in the 11th -12th century existed in what is today southern Nigeria. The Benin royal family whose lineage is still alive today commissioned regalia with coral beads, bronze, ivory, etc.... Many of the bronzes beautiful and intricate detail (that were stolen during the colonial period by Brits, French, etc...) with can be found spread across many European museums.

These bronze plaques were fitted around the door structure of the Oba's (king's) palace in Edo the capital of the kingdom.

[quote] I feel bad for the Queen, having to put up with this shameless grifter at her age, not to mention Andrew. She shouldn't have to be going through this in her nineties.

Yes she shouldn't have to be "going through" her 30 something yr old grandson working to build a happy fulfilling independent life for himself and his family. Harry should devote his life to making her and the antiquated monarchy happy. He does not deserve to have a happy life for himself. His life should be dictated by the queen, the media and all of the people who complain about the taxes the believe go to the monarchy. He should spend his life traveling from one miserable ribbon cutting ceremony to the next, smiling for the camera. Regardless of how miserable he is. The bullshit antiquated royal monarchy, created a thousand yrs ago, the result of contests in thuggery is what really matters. God ordained this foolishness!

R206, I know. I just wanted to give a minute taste of Africa for those who claim that before the Europeans set foot there it was a 'shithole'. The visual arts from the continent are rich and breathtaking. But then again you have to know, if people know nothing of course they are going to come up with the usual racist tropes.

^^ brilliantly on point and insightful.

with all due respect to r210, my response was to r208 (below)

[quote]Yes she shouldn't have to be "going through" her 30 something yr old grandson working to build a happy fulfilling independent life for himself and his family. Harry should devote his life to making her and the antiquated monarchy happy. He does not deserve to have a happy life for himself. His life should be dictated by the queen, the media and all of the people who complain about the taxes the believe go to the monarchy. He should spend his life traveling from one miserable ribbon cutting ceremony to the next, smiling for the camera. Regardless of how miserable he is. The bullshit antiquated royal monarchy, created a thousand yrs ago, the result of contests in thuggery is what really matters. God ordained this foolishness!

R207 Those are from the 16th century.

You might want to check out what Cellini and Ghiberti were doing at that time....

oh no - I'm making it even more confusing : (

[quote] EXCLUSIVE: Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed - so will he be dropping by for tea?

Straight out of View Park Windsor Hills where the homes range from $600,000 to over 2 million.

So glad a decedent of American slaves is helping to speed up the implosion of the so call BRF. That's what they're thieving, enslaving asses get.

These are not good people in the least bit at all. That whole family has a history of murdering, stealing, enslaving or human beings etc. And we're supposed to feel sorry for these nasty racist ass white supremacists masquerading around as so called "Royalty"?

Fuck that whole family and they're so called "Monarchy." The only people who care about this shit, is ancient as white people in so called Great Britain. This bullshit is the exact reason this family will not make it into the 22 second century. The whole concept of a BRF is played the fuck out and completely antiquated and outdated in 2020. They need to bring all this mess to a fuckin end like yesterday.

Fuck that whole stale ass family. No one gives a fuck about them.

The decedent's are smiling in the great beyond.

Fucking enslavers. That's they're legacy.

R205, here we have someone who is not able to accept difference.

R212, I am not interested in your Eurocentric garbage and your nazi propaganda on the superiority of some races over others.

Every cultural object is the product of its society with their own unique beliefs and philosophy, that are a gift to humanity regardless of their geographical area, race, ethnicity, religion but I am sure all of this is lost on you.

R216 Well stated.

R216 Those are cute.

Any black person in an interracial marriage knows EXACTLY why they've split. The microaggressions must be compounded when the family can coopt the media and millions around the world to do their dirty work for them.

[quote] Fuck that whole family and they're so called "Monarchy."

But Blue eyed Baby Jesus ordained it.

R205, by the way that is not medieval sculpture. You don't know much art history, do you?

R218, thank you. Also from Benin. Not sure, but believe they are ivory and copper.

R219 Exactly.

r208 if they're that unhappy, then surely they'll remove themselves from the royal payroll. Oh, wait....

They want all the perks without having to work.

[quote]So glad a decedent of American slaves is helping to speed up the implosion of the so call BRF. That's what they're thieving, enslaving asses get.

The BRF isn't imploding and it isn't going anywhere. They'll still be around long after Meghan Markle.

Why don't you also direct your anger to North Africans, who were also complicit in the slave trade?

[quote] Fuck that whole stale ass family.

Yes, FUCK THEM. Fuck them right in THE ASS!

Even glow-in-the-dark Bonnie Franklin couldn’t have made lily white Lilibet happy.

[quote]Let's not try to normalize Meghan

Jesus.

[quote] The BRF isn't imploding and it isn't going anywhere. They'll still be around long after Meghan Markle. Why don't you also direct your anger to North Africans, who were also complicit in the slave trade?

Blue eyed Sweet Baby Jesus will protect his earthly vessels, the royals. He ordained them to be the greatest murders and thieves and rule over the lowly commoners. He will continue to smite those who rise up against it.

Nice hyperbole, r229. You should write for tv.

Megs fangurls hear racism because they don't want to hear DISGUST.

Look at r141 ‘s criticism of Meghan and learn how the Brits do racism. It’s so subtle, but not really. He’s basically telling her that she has no right to identify as black. He’ll do it for her, thanks and in his eyes, she’s neither black, and most definitely not white, so she’s a non-person. The racing driver Lewis Hamilton recognises this and goes out of his way to identify as black even though he has a white mother. But at least he doesn’t look as racially ambiguous as Meghan.

So r88 There’s also a part of the mixed-race community that’s been raised to look down on all that is black therefore spend their lives trying to distance themselves from blackness, but always get a rude awakening of outright rejection by the white community. That’s when they realise that it’s whites, not blacks that have a problem with them. Colin Kaepernick, who also has a white mother only gets told he’s not “really black” when it’s meant to insult, usually by white right wing racists. The only time blacks have an issue is when someone visibly black, like Tiger Woods, try to claim they’re not black. Race is a social construct, it’s how you physically appear to the outside world. So Trevor Noah (also half white) has no problems identifying as black.

I believe if Meghan was 100% white the criticism would be even worse. There would really be no holding back.

[quote]Look at [R141] ‘s criticism of Meghan and learn how the Brits do racism. It’s so subtle, but not really. He’s basically telling her that she has no right to identify as black.

There's nothing racist in his assessment. If you marry into the Royal Family in this day and age, you know exactly what you're getting into. You don't get to play by your own rules. Meghan thought she could do that, and she got told. Anyone of any race would've been treated the same way. Being a member of the Royal Family does not mean you're a movie star or a common celebrity with all the bullshit that goes with that.

The fact that they trademarked Sussex Royal is all I need to know about who these two actually are.

SussexRoyal® for TARGET

MM wants "out" because she doesn't care to be constantly compared for the worse with Catherine.

She doesn't care for Harry's irrelevant non-heir position's being highlighted when in William's (and George's) arena.

She wants out of the UK to be out from under HM's power, MM being one to disregard those she cannot manipulate to her will and benefit. In North America, Harry will be in her bailiwick, her milieu, the easier to boss him around.

Finally, Rachel Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, wants to leave the UK to build, unfettered, a brand with HRH Prince Henry, Duke of Sussex. The ultimate Insta-gram couple (or family, but let's face it, maternal she ain't, and photogenic Archie ain't). Harry will make his way giving presentations about his mother, and signing copies of photos of them together. Meghan will have a sell-out of her own MAC celebrity lipstick. Oh, the possibilities of Sussex celebrityhood seem endless, do they not?!

Life is much too short to live just to please other people. No one should live their life just to please their parents, grandparents, much less weirdo strangers. There are so many miserable people in this world who can't figure out their own lives. Yet those same miserable people want to dictate what others should do. Good luck to these two.

are you an idiot, r71? did you not read r68's explanation for why Europeans had an advantage by dint of their location? and did it not occur to you that that advantage is what allowed *some* of them to self-actualize and advance civilization in a way that Africans were unable to?

and I should have put "advance" in quotation marks bc white supremacy has probably been the most damaging and insidious poison that has emerged out of "civilization." r216 is right- every culture's contributions have value. also, location and natural environment shape and impact a culture's output and traditions.

Don't make this a race issue. Meghan is narcissistic and that's why people hate her. It has nothing to do with the color of her skin.

She does have a history of dumping people and moving on. No family except her mother, few friends. Harry said early on that the BRF would become her family since she was practically an orphan. Now look where they are. His family is getting dumped as well.

I doubt their "brand" is going to bring in nearly as much as they think.

Nobody seems to like them, even Harry has gone from the most popular royal to being regarded as a pussy-whipped dim bulb.

I can’t cite incidences as I don’t read them but I have no doubt the tabloids have been nothing but unpleasant and more so than if Markle was white. However, I do think her being an American actress was probably seen as bad enough. And then you can add the tacky behaviour of her family. They had a lot to work with and were probably salivating at the idea of a fresh target to bully .They are merciless.

But both of them must have anticipated that. How could they not given who his mother was in the eyes of the press and the public. She was practically bloody deified. No woman could live up to that and the knives were bound to be out.

However, that documentary and the clumsy self pitying was a big mistake. They went up against the media while using it themselves as well and they didn’t pull it off. If they had doubts and problems they should have been handled privately and with dignity. Not talk about their struggle, on camera, at a time the country is in a mess because of Brexit, there are divisions among communities and families, austerity has led to the growth of foodbanks and homelessness has increased. That is strictly tone deaf self indulgent celebrity bullshit.

If they step away and give up the titles and the privilege that comes with them I would respect them. But the impression is they want to keep the good bits. It seems their idea of modernising is to follow a template based on celebrity and social media. To grow their brand. Basically monetising their privilege. Tacky and an insult to the institution and the people who pay for it. Why should the British taxpayer pay for anything they do ? That they are saying they want to work towards financial independence is laughably tone deaf. These are two very wealthy people.

Their handling of it, the petulant announcement purposely independent of the Palace, has just created more drama to be used by the tabloids mercilessly. For two people who don’t want to be in the public eye they chose a bizarre way of dealing with it. They look spoilt and stupid, the Palace looks wrong footed and clumsy.

They’ve been married less than two years. They had the grand wedding. They got the honeymoon. They got the cottage. Public money involved in all of it. Then she has the baby and the agenda changed pretty quickly. Time off for stress and then this announcement. You’d be forgiven for thinking it was planned all along.

Johnson’s cynical manipulation of the Queen proved the authority of the monarchy is negligible. We may not need a monarchy. We certainly don’t need one that is a lifestyle brand for the rich and famous.

The author is a millionaire Oxford graduate from one of those high-level Afican families that took millions from the poor of their own country and used it to raise their daughter in opulent wealth in a London townhouse (Apparently the family is related to slavetraders). She's been trying to outdo Owen Jones in the 'wokest commentator' stakes ever since.

Total fraud.

R182 - Christ, she was decently attractive, a shitty actress, and she's lost most of the attractiveness she got with the bloom of youth and a great deal of hair and makeup work. Right now, her skin looks like shit, her hair looks like shit, she looks dumpy instead of petite, and in her first appearance in 7 weeks managed to come out with a top that had visible large sweat stained armpits.

I can't speak to her sexual talent, but whatever.

These days she looks more like Moriticia Addams after a Mediterranean cruise during which she had way too much blood and way too much sun.

R244 - Hear, hear. If the monarchy's way of dealing with these two nutjobs is to allow them to monetise their ties to the monarchy, then the monarchy isn't what we all thought the purpose of the monarchy is and should be.

If it really exists to help ungrateful spares monetise his privileges to satisfy a wife voractious for enormous wealth and celebrity, I say let it go. It's done for.

And, this exercise in coddling makes a mockery of the Cambridges' approach to their duties.

Remember how disapprove they all were when Sarah Ferguson did it?

Why, suddenly, is it all right if Harry's wife does it?

I say this escapade, handled as increasingly it seems as if it will be, with the BRF O and Meghan Markle 4 (titles, funding, free home intact, whilst doing less for us and more for herself), points up how empty the monarchy really is.

As an American humourist once said in a famous cartoon of a child refusing to eat a plate of green stuff that his mother keeps telling him is really something else, "I say it's spinach, and I say the hell with it."

R243 fuck off, Harry was never a popular Royal. None of the Royals are popular at this point.

Meghan threads always bring out the inherent extreme racism of most DLers. It really is disgusting. No one cares what you cunts think about this or anything.

She treated the staff like shit, she thinks she's super special! She was nasty to the staff about the vegan item, she taste tested it and couldn't believe there was no meat in it and kept grilling the poor staff member. She was such a cunt that the Queen took her aside and told the cunt we don't treat people here like this.

She made someone cry at the kids' fitting for the wedding ( I think it was Kate). She went through sooo many nannies and personal assistants who can't stand working for her.

People who treat waiters or small people like shit are assholes...you can be sure of this...skin color has nothing to do with it.

[quote]Who gives a shit about racism? Grow the fuck up.

WTF does this even mean? You wrote this thinking it was remotely intelligent?

The fact is this site has gone to shit specifically because moronic, lonely gays and their equally moronic, lonely fraus have become obsessed with this woman. Muriel, it has gotten out of hand. Cockroaches are coming to this site because they know they can be anonymously psychotic in their hate for this woman. For the love of God, please end this shit or give them their own dark hole in which to play.

Except for TV viewers of Suits,no one knew who the fuck she was until Harry. She's famous now and wants the Angelina Jolie type image of international "do-gooder." She wants to be a major influencer and make speeches and travel the world for photo ops and make a mountain of cash while doing it.

The Duke & Duchess of Windsor used to charge for attending a dinner. People laughed and mocked their crassness. But it was just a preview. I won't be surprised of she uses this opportunity to start separating herself from Harry. They'll have a commuter marriage with long periods of time between visits, and eventually they will divorce but not until she has firmly established her"brand."Not his.

Harry will always be a Prince of the Blood. Meghan is riding that connection now until it's no longer useful. I giver her five years at most, until she is established on her own and kiss Harry good bye. They will have an amicable split and co-parent. Because Archie is her ticket, baby, her leverage over Harry and Charles.

Oh and she will be very careful not to criticize The Queen, Charles & Camilla and William and Catherine. She will simply say the monarchy was too confining, and she felt it was important for her to speak out about sexism, and be a feminist and to talk about racism and other things the Monarchy finds too controversial or political. S

he will find a way to compartmentalize all of it and sell it. Get your popcorn. I will say that I like Harry and always have and I feel sorry for him. Harry was vulnerable and she really manipulated him. William had her number which is why he cautioned Harry to slow down during the courtship.

r252 with your mind-reading skills, you could be on Search for the Stars!

Harry is a victim. He's been used by her. so obvious. He's too stupid to see. Maybe he knows but he can't admit to his family that he fucked up, esp to his brother who warned him about this whore and that he should have taken mummy's advice not to marry in haste. he's gonna have to ride it out and hope it works out.

Harry is a victim. He's been used by her. so obvious. He's too stupid to see. Maybe he knows but he can't admit to his family that he fucked up, esp to his brother who warned him about this whore and that he should have taken mummy's advice not to marry in haste. he's gonna have to ride it out and hope it works out.

R253, not to mention the length of the post. Demented people.

R249, and a lot of them aren't American. You can see from their spelling. Americans can be shit when it comes to racism, but it's nothing compared to the UK. They're such fucking assholes over there. My cousin lived there for a year for his job and said the "Asian" Britons were very helpful and kind while the white Britons were just nasty and many were overtly racist.

I listened to a great podcast with Jordan Peele. He talked about the habit of white people telling him what is and isn’t racist, without considering his point of view. For all of you talking about how your stuff isn’t racist, that’s what you’re doing.

The power of pussy, I’ll tell ya. That’s how women control and manipulate their men. Good for her. I hate those hypocritical royals

^ not all of you, to be sure, but I’m referring to every conversation on how Meghan is only a “little bit black”, or how she only dates white guys, and on...

So you're all screaming "Racist" while ignoring the many examples of Meghan being a narcissistic, grifting cunt?

Blah, blah, blah....racism, blah, blah, blah......ZzZzZzZzZzZzZz

Can we get back to talking about all the ways this conniving grifter duped poor, dumb Harry?

[quote]So you're all screaming "Racist" while ignoring the many examples of Meghan being a narcissistic, grifting cunt?

Most of these examples are based in your hysterics. You don't know this woman AT ALL and you speak as though she strangles puppies and kittens just to piss *YOU* off.

And you don't have to be burning a cross to be a racist. The fact is that a lot of you can't accept that behavior which wouldn't get this reaction coming from a white woman had he married one, is considered "uppity" by her.

The reason Trump can behave the way he does and still become president while Obama had to be a fucking 1950s "perfect dad" is specifically because of the attitudes of people like you and the rest of the idiots who can't accept that racism doesn't have to be in your face screaming "nigger." It's the subtle things that people like you cannot accept about yourselves. Many of us see it and you're too fucking ignorant to see it yourselves.

The trolls just throw shit out there. They're like the monkeys at a zoo throwing poo at everyone outside the bars of their pitiful existence.

Enjoy Brexit, cunts. You all deserve what's coming.

R204, I imagine that made things worse. She has spent her life enjoying some privilege afforded to biracial people who lean into their white heritage only to be basically treated as black ghetto trash by the aristocracy, the BRF, and the press. She has probably been running from this her whole life.

They deserve Brexit for being racist morons. And Boris Johnson being elected by a large margin says everything you need to know about those assholes as they act like they just so hate Trump., meanwhile, they just elected Trump's new bitch KNOWING he was Trump's bitch. Yeah, go fly that dumb Trump balloon. You sooo made a point with it. Way to go, UK. You're just so much more "enlightened" than the US. At least we can say that the majority DIDN'T vote for Trump. We're at least beholden to an antiquated political system which allows the loser of the popular vote to still win. We know your excuse, UKKK.

R215, is correct. All of the so called Royals are the original grifters and thieves; colonizing and stealing the resources from the native people.

R263, thank you for your very insightful post. The people screaming the loudest that they’re not racist are probably the worst racists.

See how r245 is using the classic white playbook of divide and rule to try and set black people against each other for his own gain. Never fails: house and field; 'pure' and 'mixed'; dark and light; African and New World; Hispanic and non-Hispanic; urban and rural ... all this diversity in black people is always fuelled and exploited by white racists.

R269, writes the truth.

You can guarantee there has never been ONE fucking thread attacking Prince William's white wife. But if she was black or blackish like Meghan, guaranteed the racist klansmen fraus and faguettes who think it is perfectly fine to attack someone for their race, would be out in droves. You fuckers are sick.

Did you miss the word "supposedly," r197? Rather than argue that point endlessly with Racist Troll, I addressed the real issue- is a country entitled to exploit another? Preying on perceived weakness is what greedy nations do.

A white racist weighs in:

The fact that there’s debate on how “white” or “black” she is and how “white” or “black” she acts is all you need To know about the racists on this thread.

Obama is half white, yet somehow, all of the insults lobbed at him seemed to come in the form of making him "other" and not really American despite the fact that he and Trump pretty much have the same familial background in that both have a non-American born parent. The only difference? Obama's American side has been in the country LONGER, yet quelle surprise...Trump is seen as being "really American" between the two. I can't imagine why...

So the "half-white" nonsense racists pull to justify their blithering idiocy and frothing-at-the-mouth hate for this Markle woman is meaningless when we know you wouldn't react this insanely had she been fully white. The BRF are fucked up. Generations of fucked up...and you think this woman is the problem?

My God! This thread has actually outdone all the Meghan threads in notoriety.

Amen, r275.

r263 she married into an institution with very defined roles and expectations. She's behaved like a diva celebrity the whole time. A white woman would get criticized for this as well.

R278, you forget Diana went to the media after the divorce and pretty much said the family is fucked up.

What is the equivalent comment like this one for a white celebrity diva?

November | May 6, 2019 at 5:42 pm | When someone in the royal household requests a “nappy” they wont know whether to grab a diaper or Prince Harry’s son.

The BRF are over. Once Lizzie goes tits up, which cannot come soon enough, it will be King Chas and Camilla. Both are as ugly as fucking sin. Harry is right to ditch this sinking ship. Contrary to what all you racist fucking assholes think, Harry will be a lifer with Meghan. They will have more children, who will be whiter than Casper. Meanwhile all you wretched, vile, racist, unfuckable cunts will be alone till death.

R278, we’re not talking about discussion of her role in the institution. Look at the posts in this thread-and many others—and you’ll see endless discussion/criticism of her blackness.

The Africa is great troll couldn't name one single ssa african philosopher. Europe had plenty of philosophers during the Middle Ages, this fascinating period that anti-white people love to trash. If "Medieval" Africa was so fucking great, where are the great african philosophers and writers? Can you name one?

Kate doesn’t act like a cunt, R271.

If Africans are so fucking great, how come they didn't produce one single great painter, philosopher, scientist, writer or composer? They used to be so amazing and advanced in the Middle Ages, right? Who are the amazing and great influential medieval african philosophers?

R285 - you've had your say and have asked the same question multiple times. Knock it off, will ya?

Chaucer was black. Shakespeare was black. Bach was black. Every great artist was black. Africans achieved great things.

There really is no other reason, OP. Racism in the family and in the British 'community' as a whole. Time for some introspection and honesty, Britain, and we know about that. It's painful to tear down the excuses and myths that hide truth.

I can see why she doesn't want to raise Archie there, but in a place that acknowledges their past mistakes and is trying to do better. Not her former home, but Canada.

No matter what her detractors assert, they're neither stupid or neophytes when it comes to the PR game and knew the optics of such a decision. They were up against some powerful forces, and from within the family. They had made it clear and still nothing. It is not a surprise at all to anyone who cared about them. To say otherwise, now, is disingenous and confirms everything from their POV.

There will be no return to Britain. Say goodbye to an opportunity, fellow racists, and maybe someday you'll get another chance to get it right. Maybe not.

I have r285 blocked—incredibly racist poster, one of the worst I’ve seen. His three brain cells are devoted to racist posts—he has no idea how stupid he sounds. Everyone should block this cunt.

Just admit it, Africa is not great and africans had little impact in the world. I know you have this crazy fantasy that Africa would be great and africans would be great scientists and artists if wasn't for colonization, but you have to admit that Africa is shithole because of africans, not because of europeans. Enough of excuses. You couldn't come up with one single african philosopher and scientist, for christ sake. Just admit it.

NATURAL RESOURSES DON'T MAKE COUNTRIES GREAT. Stop with the excuses, Switzerland and Japan have no natural resourses and they are great. I'm tired of panafricanists playing the victim card endlessly.

For our Eurocentric trolls.

Great rock art discoveries in Brazil indicate a similar finding.

With TS Eliot stealing from and not acknowledging the Upanishads and Picasso himself claiming that he could never achieve the pure expression of African artists, I wonder at the fools who see separation.

Ok, where are the great african scientists and philosophers?

I never said Europe was better. I admire and respect the culture of Asia. I just think SSA africans didn't achieve great things and I don't believe colonization is the reason for this. That's all.

R284 fuck off, racist cunt. Kate is white so no way any of you white fascists would ever hate her.

r294, who cares? like any of those supposedly impressive contributions have truly done shit to advance humanity in the scheme of things anyway. we live in a world where donald trump was elected president and where we are in grave danger of becoming extinct to climate change. and you crow about philosophy and art. like philosophy and art are going to save us. idiot.

Do you really think science is irrelevant and of no importance? I can't understand why SJWs hate science so much.

You guys are slipping. R285 is just a low-level intern sent to derail the thread.

No they are a typical poster.

Please Wallis Simpson was trashed, Margaret was trashed and now Meghan is being trashed. And Wallis and Margaret were not black. I mean you every thing is due to racism trolls want to believe nobody can achieve anything if they are a person of color. You hold this truism like a badge of honor.

BEAT THAT STRAWMAN, R300. Yeah, that's it. Beat it TO DEATH then beat it some more.

(Pro tip: nobody here blames all the bad things on racism. Not the fucking point.)

[quote] Please Wallis Simpson was trashed, Margaret was trashed and now Meghan is being trashed. And Wallis and Margaret were not black. I mean you every thing is due to racism trolls want to believe nobody can achieve anything if they are a person of color. You hold this truism like a badge of honor.

Yes unlike no other single thing on the planet, both the British and the American’s judgements, regarding Harry and Meghan are post racial. Whites have the ability to turn both their conscious and unconscious racism off. Who knew? And we should just ignore the overt racism posted here and elsewhere. It doesn’t mean what we know it does mean.

[quote]Whites have the ability to turn both their conscious and unconscious racism off.

Except on DL.

Well this thread has devolved into a pathetic mess, you're all trying to bitchslap each other, and missing because you're too hysterical or drunk to slap straight.

All black Americans have white blood somewhere up the line, no one is going to call Obama a white man, come on!

R305, all white Americans have black blood somewhere up the line. You too.

Exactly, r306.

[quote]Do you really think science is irrelevant and of no importance? I can't understand why SJWs hate science so much.

You sound dumb as fuck for someone who claims to admire intelligence.

Here's what I don't get. I know there are racists working at the Palace on staff. Nasty people who resent Meghan for being Black and for ,being an American almost equally. And of course she is also a divorcee. So these people who would probably describe themselves as "traditionalists" or "Conservatives" about the monarchy would be impossible to appease. They are stuck in the 40's. I'm sure they would sabotage, or misinform, or leak stuff and stir up shit and division. I can even imagine some of the RF acting asinine. Like Andrew and the Kents and a few others. And I can imagine some of Harry's social circle would also be unkind. But OTOH, you have Charles who is a loving father and did all he could to support Harry and Meghan. And I can't see Zara Tindall and other cousins being ugly. Neither Edward and Sophie. So yes, there were microaggressions, and there were some who were cold toward Meghan, but I think Harry and Meghan had friends and allies ,and Meghan seems to be burning bridges instead of helping Harry build them. Once people get married things change. People related to them differently. ADding in the race element and the royal family being public figures and it requires everyone to work harder to strengthen things. I have to wonder what triggered this. Something had to trigger this. It wasn't just the tabloids. It had to be that not nearly enough was done within the Palace, to defend and protect Harry and Meghan instead actually feeding the coverage and using them to deflect from Andrew. And rationalizing this all in the interest of supporting the Queen. I have to blame the"advisors" and the staff. I'd fire the whole lot of them.

You can’t deny the rift between Harry and William; also, Meghan and Catherine just didn’t take to each other. Only Charles has appeared wholeheartedly welcoming and accommodating of Meghan and her mother. Camilla seemed to be team Kate at the wedding.

Why is it that white racists must mention the accomplishments of others as if they themselves had anything to do with it? Bitch, your top layer of epidermis didn't make you any less of a useless motherfucker since you're not inventing shit yourself, that's why you have to constantly mention *others* who are actually inventors.

You've created nothing but the delusion that you somehow get credit for what others who have absolutely no connection to you have actually invented/discovered/created.

[quote]r278 she married into an institution with very defined roles and expectations.

Rather, she married a man she loved. He's connected to an institution that didn't welcome her, and so she now doesn't want to spend all her time among them.

Neither does he, for additional reasons. This makes them a united front, and a good match.

People are reacting as if the pair placed a bomb under the Queen's throne. All they did was step back and say they weren't going to be full time royals living full time in the U.K. They're happy to represent her elsewhere part time, if Her Majesty likes. Which is perfectly reasonable.

[quote]Rather, she married a man she loved. He's connected to an institution that didn't welcome her, and so she now doesn't want to spend all her time among them.

That institution is HIS LIFE. It's not like a family business that you'd rather not work for.

[quote]They're happy to represent her elsewhere part time, if Her Majesty likes. Which is perfectly reasonable.

Again, this is the Monarchy. You don't negotiate shit like a Hollywood agent. There are very defined roles and rules.

R309, once William declared Meghan the enemy no one was going to side with her though I do believe Charles was sympathetic.

R153 Jazz is up there as some of the greatest music ever recorded wholly invented by black people. All pop and rock music came from black people. Also blues. Having said that, Megan's problem isn't racism it is narcissism.

[quote]r313 That institution is HIS LIFE. It's not like a family business that you'd rather not work for.

Interesting that Prince Harry disagrees with you.

It doesn't matter what Prince Harry agrees with or not.

It seems it does or they would not have these meetings.

Prince Harry will still do things his way, he's dumb and arrogant.

Or ... just living in the 21st Century.

We don’t know anything about them or their families, so please hold your judgements.

[quote]r321 We don’t know anything about them or their families, so please hold your judgements.

I would argue we know [italic]quite a bit[/italic] about one of the most publicized families in the world.

The really sad thing is that all the black people who look up to Meghan? She wouldn’t spit on them if they were on fire. She thinks she’s better than all of them.

[quote]Jazz is up there as some of the greatest music ever recorded wholly invented by black people. All pop and rock music came from black people. Also blues. Having said that, Megan's problem isn't racism it is narcissism.

No you're wrong about that.

Jazz was a collaboration.

The musical scale used is western. The instruments used are largely of European invention: the piano, the sax, trumpet etc. The methods that allowed the music to reach an audience are European/American inventions: radio, photograph, recording studios etc. Many of the great jazz and blues songs were written by blacks, by whites or collaborations between the two. Jazz came out of Ragtime. Ragtime came out of marching music.

[quote]All pop and rock music came from black people.

No not true at all.

.R323 the sadder thing is that most rich black people would not spit on the average black person on fire. It is complicated.

[quote] That institution is HIS LIFE. It's not like a family business that you'd rather not work for. Again, this is the Monarchy. You don't negotiate shit like a Hollywood agent. There are very defined roles and rules.

Yes the Queen shouldn't have to be "going through" her 30 something yr old grandson working to build a happy fulfilling independent life for himself and his family. Harry should devote his life to making her and the antiquated monarchy happy. He does not deserve to have a happy life for himself. His life should be dictated by the queen, the media and all of the people who complain about the taxes the believe go to the monarchy. He should spend his life traveling from one miserable ribbon cutting ceremony to the next, smiling for the camera. Regardless of how miserable he is. The bullshit antiquated royal monarchy, created a thousand yrs ago, the result of contests in thuggery is what really matters. God ordained this foolishness!

Again. life is much too short to live just to please other people. No one should live their life just to please their parents, grandparents, much less weirdo strangers. There are so many miserable people in this world who can't figure out their own lives. Yet those same miserable people want to dictate what others should do. Good luck to these two.

In the list of Harry and Meghan's biggest mistakes, asking people to feel sorry for them has got to be in the top five.

You're rich and famous and royal and good-looking and have easy well-paid jobs for life if you want them, you cunts! So what if not everyone in the world is failing to kiss your ass, not even the Queen herself has everyone in the world kissing her ass, she's spent her whole life dealing with anti-monarchists and criticism of every dowdy thing she's ever worn. She's known better than to whine in public, or to think she can do a better job of handling the media than the Palace professionals.

"So yes, there were microaggressions..."

Also known as common or garden variety expressions of dislike.

And it's not like she's been all that likable behind the scenes.

[quote] .R323 the sadder thing is that most rich black people would not spit on the average black person on fire. It is complicate

The sadder and uncomplicated thing is that you insist of posting such utter nonsense.

R266, I love you

R271, indeed

[quote] Jazz was a collaboration.

Copying and stealing does not = "collaboration"

[quote] The musical scale used is western. The instruments used are largely of European invention: the piano, the sax, trumpet etc. The methods that allowed the music to reach an audience are European/American inventions: radio, photograph, recording studios etc.

Right so being that drums and guitar are African creations, all music that features them was created by black people.

R273, I suspect this poor 'misguided' man actually thinks that being called black is a slur — in the 21st century

R284, but you do. Get off this thread, you have spouted enough vile nonsense.

R285, google is your friend...here is the link.

Because you don't know them, it does not mean they don't exist, but warning you do need to be of above average intelligence to get it. I suspect you are not going to be able to cut it.

I’ll repeat it—block r285 and ignore the troll. He’s off the deep end into Klan territory.

I glanced quickly at this and thought it said “Black Bottoms Know Why Meghan Wants Out”

[quote]Yes the Queen shouldn't have to be "going through" her 30 something yr old grandson working to build a happy fulfilling independent life for himself and his family. Harry should devote his life to making her and the antiquated monarchy happy. He does not deserve to have a happy life for himself.

What he and Meghan want are to be globe-trotting celebrities who live like billionaires, nothing more. Hardly a noble endeavor. Neither one of them would piss on you if you were on fire.

[quote]r327 Yes the Queen shouldn't have to be "going through" her 30 something yr old grandson working to build a happy fulfilling independent life for himself and his family. Harry should devote his life to making her and the antiquated monarchy happy.

Haha! And the mystifying thing about some pushing "duty" down everyone's throats is, just last week they were deriding Harry and Meghan for being 7th in line, or whatever ... negligible upstarts reaching beyond their station.

If the pair are so unimportant, these posters should just let them go their own way, without the current screeching and fuss.

[quote]Right so being that drums and guitar are African creations, all music that features them was created by black people.

No drums actually originated in Asia, however the modern drum kit is an American invention. The guitar originated in Europe.

[quote] No drums actually originated in Asia, however the modern drum kit is an American invention. The guitar originated in Europe.

Actually no, they didn't.

R306 are you fucking retarded? Americans have always been 100% racist. Probably 95% of whites in history would never consider fucking a black. There is no fucking way most Americans have some black in them. Even now huge chunks of America would never breed black due to their racist ideals. I have a friend who is Portugese. She admits her family are still very racist. I asked her if she would have ever had a black husband. She said no way they'd have disowned her. So for her white is the only acceptable color. Even after Labor day.

R343 knows that she and every other racist/racism shrieking poster on this thread are just as racist (and BIGOTED!) as those they accuse/condemn.

Please take a DNA test r343 and discover what your racist antebellum ancestors got up to. LOL.

R249 and your ilk: I can't speak for the Brits, but I don't even see "Black" when I view the freckled and seemingly tanned visage of MM. It's not like she has typical A-A features. Racism is a stupid crutch in this case.

Moreover, to care about her race is to care about Harry's choice of bride, and really, who cares? He is irrelevant, his offspring will be more irrelevant, and thus MM is nothing and no one about whom to care. Gossip, perhaps, but idly so.

Not in the same league as discussions of the Duke of York and his probable crimes.

Harry and Meghan perhaps will become wealthy celebrities. But their lives henceforth will put the lie to their claims of seeking privacy, for they will need to continually "circulate" to make that money, selling photos not to "Hello" but to the "National Enquirer."

If Harry emigrates, the UK will not welcome him back should he decide to become the Prodigal Son. He will have abandoned his charities there, the Invictus Games, any visible support of the reigning monarch, and in general the British Way of Life.

Megan Markle married a man who dressed as a nazi, referred to a fellow soldier as a ‘paki’ and told a black comedian that he didn’t ‘sound black’. She’s also resident in a country whose Prime Minister did blackface on more than one occasion.

But then she did grow up in America, a country well known to be free of racism.

Muriel needs to purge DL of all the grim Klanners who have been abusing Meghan and others on here for years.

[quote]Muriel needs to purge DL of all the scolds and thread gestapo who have been abusing posters and others on here for years.

Reality.

R301 and R302 you're the ones who are full of shit. Blaming every single fucking thing on the planet on racism. Racism so obsesses you to the point that you're practically fucking and giving blow jobs to your strawman. It's Racism It's Racism!! Meghan is ONLY being criticized because she's biracial!!

[quote]Again, this is the Monarchy. You don't negotiate shit like a Hollywood agent. There are very defined roles and rules.

What a naive shit you are. Of course they negotiate no differently than some Hollywood shark. How do you think that whole Andrew interview debacle happened? Whomever represents them, advised it. The monarchy IS showbiz at this point. A tourist attraction and to maintain a good public image, you need "agents" to help with all of the nonsense.

You can't criticize Megs because she's a person of color but you can read Harry to filth which people have been taking great delight in for years with Nazi displays, hunting slaughters, naked romps in Las Vegas at the British taxpayer's expense, and a carbon footprint the size of Brazil because he's white.

I have friends in the UK. When Obama was president they would say "I don't like that Obama or his shit wife." I asked the why and they just looked at me. When Harry and Megan got married I asked first if the brits like Kate and she gushed OOH we love her. I said what about Meghan and they gave me that same look and said we don't like her.

Some friends, R353...

I find it amusing that the article forbears to mention that Meghan only marries white (she's on her second white husband), most of her close friends are white, she owes her new A-list celebrity to marrying into a white family, and she's been straightening her hair for twenty years to look less African (her hair is naturally African textured).

Black Britons know that as long as they can throw the race card around, Meghan will be held completely unaccountable for her own personality flaws. Because, as we all know, one drop of black blood confers immunity from narcissism, selfishness, own goals, bad hair, appalling taste in clothes, self-absorption, and acting in bad faith.

She's a hustling connivinb cunt, and if she were all white instead of half white, but had behaved in exactly the same way to friends, family, husbands, etc., no one, but NO ONE, of any racial persuasion, would be defending her actions, or pretending that her bad press was anything but deserved, or asserting that she was being "driven" out.

The hypocrisy is mind-boggling.

R353 - Spare us. I have family and friends in the UK, an a hybrid Yank/Brits, lived for years in both places, and not one of my British family or friends gave a flying fuck one way or the other about Kate OR Meghan. Most Brits don't wake up in the morning thinking about the Windsors. When Archie was born, a group of white biddies were on the telly popping champagne corks outside where they supposed they'd get a glimpse of the kid.

London, Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford, Nottingham, Cardiff . . .these are hugely diverse places and have been for years.

It was Meghan's persona, as noted above with "hustler" written all over it, that people caught on to quickly, not her barely noticeable black DNA.

Ffs, she couldn't even be bothered to acknowledge her good fortuner by asking a British designer to do her wedding dress, never mind wave taking the baby baby home or announcing the godparents.

She missed lots of opportunities to reach out to the general public with the kinds of tiresome but easy gestures that Kate grits her teeth and does with a smile.

Meghan acted in bad faith from the beginning. She doesn't like being told what to do and didn't like being "second" and she betrayed her duties whilst on the tour in Africa, which was done at the behest of the British government, not the Queen, and basically made it clear she was in it to create a brand and then leave with it.

It ain't Meghan's DNA that's obnoxious: it's her.

[quote] She doesn't like being told what to do and didn't like being "second"

Most adults with brains don’t. As a matter of fact most children don’t really enjoy it.

Nor do most people with brains enjoy living their one short life for anonymous strangers who will never be pleased. No matter what you may do. Due in large part to the fact that most people are absolutely miserable. Which these threads illustrate. Misery of course loves company. How dare anyone purse happiness.

Pursue

R353, I was working for a company in London that was close to Regent Street — very central — and when Obama won a second term it was like a funeral. Such was the sadness and before you say that it could have been for any other reason, I actually asked them and they rolled their eyes and made no comment lol.

[quote] London, Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Bradford, Nottingham, Cardiff . . .these are hugely diverse places and have been for years.

R356, stop trying to gloss over issues: Police's 'Stop and search' of young black men, the Stephen Lawrence enquiry, the Windrush scandal in which people of Afro-Caribbean descent who have lived in Britain all their lives are being deported willy-nilly from the country, the deaths of Afro-Caribbean citizens in police custody for no apparent reason, your recently elected PM referring to black people as 'piccaninnies' with 'watermelon smiles' and the list goes on and on and on. Please stop pretending there are no severe race issues in the UK....

As a Brit can I please tell you that most of us do not give a dam if Harry and Megan stay or go. The fire storm in the press is frankly pathetic and we belive whipped up by supporters of the Royal Family Fantasy who tell us everyday how much we love them and how much they do for Britain. Most Brits frankly dont give a dam and belive when the Queen dies that there will be major changes long overdue in the way the monachy is set up in the Uk. The Queen with out a doubt works hard, as for the rest of them...who cares? Belive me most Brits live in the real world and not in the Buckingham Palace Fantasy presented to us all.

No on cares about Afro-Caribbans. It's the Muslims they need to stop and search....and toss out of the country.

^No one