So, one of the reasons that Datalounge, um, preservationists argue against circumcision is their claim that maintaining the full foreskin "feels better." I can't argue whether or not it does, because I was circumcised as an infant. I guess my question for you, though, is how do YOU know? I would think the only way to know that it feels better and has a greater sense of sensation is for you to get circumsized, heal from the circumcision and then compare the sensation before and after.
Lol at that photo OP!
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 9, 2020 5:31 AM |
^Exactly what I was going to say. I love you, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 9, 2020 5:34 AM |
Yes that makes sense OP.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 9, 2020 6:38 AM |
To follow, you shall find here EXACTLY what all is removed... A more scientific approach would be to ask how could so much erogenous specialised tissue be removed, without diminished sensation, and sensitivity. The average foreskin is believed to have anywhere from 20K-70k nerve endings.
The foreskin comprises roughly 50% (and sometimes more) of the mobile skin system of the penis. If unfolded and spread out flat, the average adult foreskin would measure about 15 square inches - the size of a three-by-five index card. This highly specialized tissue normally covers the glans and protects it from abrasion, drying, callusing (also called keratinization), and contaminants of all kinds. Click here to view an animated graphic illustrating foreskin mobility.
[Sources: 1. M. M. Lander, "The Human Prepuce," in G. C. Denniston and M. F. Milos, eds., SexualMutilations: A Human Tragedy (New York: Plenum Press, 1997), 79-81. 2. M. Davenport, "Problems with the Penis and Prepuce: Natural History of the Foreskin," British Medical Journal 312 (1996): 299-301.]
Frenar Band, or Ridged Band The frenar band is a group of soft ridges near the junction of the inner and outer foreskin. This region is the primary erogenous zone of the intact male body. Loss of this delicate belt of densely innervated, sexually responsive tissue reduces the fullness and intensity of sexual response. There is no known method of restoring the frenar band.
[Source: Taylor, J. R. et al., "The Prepuce: Specialized Mucosa of the Penis and Its Loss to Circumcision," British Journal of Urology 77 (1996): 291
Meissner's Corpuscles Circumcision removes the most important sensory component of the foreskin - thousands of coiled fine-touch receptors called Meissner's corpuscles. Also lost are branches of the dorsal nerve, and between 10,000 and 20,000 specialized erotogenic nerve endings of several types. Together these detect subtle changes in motion and temperature, as well as fine gradations in texture. There is no known method of restoring Meissner's corpuscles or other specialized sensory nerve cells. However, restoring and restored men almost universally experience tremendous increases in sensitivity, in part because the highly sensitive nerve cells in the glans are no longer buried under several layers of keratinized skin.
[Sources: 1. R. K. Winkelmann, "The Erogenous Zones: Their Nerve Supply and Its Significance," Proceedings of the Staff Meetings of the Mayo Clinic 34 (1959): 39-47. 2. R. K. Winkelmann, "The Cutaneous Innervation of Human Newborn Prepuce," Journal of Investigative Dermatology 26 (1956): 53-67.]
Frenulum The frenulum is a highly erogenous V-shaped structure on the underside of the glans that tethers the foreskin. During circumcision it is frequently either amputated with the foreskin or severed, which destroys or diminishes its sexual and physiological functions. If the frenulum is amputated, there is no known method of replacing it. If only a small portion of the frenulum is left, it is probably no longer functional as a tethering structure. There is no known method of attaching it to a restored foreskin, but some men have reported stretching the frenulum remnant as they stretched their foreskin.
[Sources: 1. Cold, C, Taylor, J, "The Prepuce," BJU International 83, Suppl. 1, (1999): 34-44. 2. Kaplan, G.W., "Complications of Circumcision," Urologic Clinics of North America 10, 1983.]
Dartos Fascia Circumcision removes approximately half of this temperature-sensitive smooth muscle sheath which lies between the outer layer of skin and the corpus cavernosa. There is no known method of restoring amputated portions of the dartos fascia. However, the new skin may duplicate dartos fascia muscle tissue if it is present in the remnant skin that is being stretched.
[Source: Netter, F.H., "Atlas of Human Anatomy," Second Edition (Novartis, 1997): Plates 234, 329, 338, 354, 355.]
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 9, 2020 7:34 AM |
When you cut off sensitive nerve endings that feel fucking awesome, you feel less. Not hard to figure out. Stop the mutilation.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 9, 2020 7:39 AM |
Yes it feels better. I'm cut but I much prefer sucking uncut dick. That's how I know. It's amazing. Thank you God for giving us foreskin.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 9, 2020 7:44 AM |
Is it possible a circumcised penis adapts to still be highly sensitive, the way that one sense ramps up when another sense is lost or reduced?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 9, 2020 7:50 AM |
This topic is a tedious obsession for tedious people.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 9, 2020 7:56 AM |
It's sickening to me someone seriously needs to suggest, as OP has, that the only way for us intact men to ever "know" is to be circumcised. NOT going to happen. The ignorance around this topic is creepy to me.
Rather than have us intact blokes go under the mutilator's knife to satisfy OP's curiousity, let's peel back, and seperate parts of the skin on OP's forearm, then cut it off, cauterise, and then join two pieces of that skin together (that doesn't belong joined together) with sutures, and check back with him if he has any loss of sensation.
We're obsessed not specifically with the foreskin per se, but obsessed with a barbaric, unscientific practise which, when done at birth, denies an infant's right to bodily integrity. This ought to be an irrevocable, and fundamental human right throughout the world.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 9, 2020 7:56 AM |
[quote]Is it possible a circumcised penis adapts to still be highly sensitive, the way that one sense ramps up when another sense is lost or reduced?
After circumcision, your vision improves.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 9, 2020 7:57 AM |
Cutting off any part your body than has sensations makes you more sensitive! Up is down and water is not wet!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 9, 2020 8:03 AM |
I can't compare what it's like for my own penis to be circumcised when it's not, but I CAN say definitively that I much prefer the look and feel of uncircumcised.
For those who were circumcised against your will (or more accurately, without your explicit consent as you were a baby) if you had the choice would you choose it?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 9, 2020 9:35 AM |
I always heard that Elvis Presley was embarrassed by his “hillbilly dick”. And I never knew what the big deal was. It doesn’t seem to make much difference one way or another.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 9, 2020 9:48 AM |
Stop male genital mutilation.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 9, 2020 9:55 AM |
The overhang of foreskin is sensitive, and sensual to suck. The sliding back and forward of the whole foreskin across the glans increases sexual pleasure. The frenulum is hyper-sensitive, and can create an intense orgasm in and of itself by being rubbed. The foreskin if generally pulled down maintains and protects the sensitivity of the glans.
To forfeit all the above pleasure because a cut cock 'looks better' seems insane. I realise many have no choice or are cut for medical reasons. But to cut an infant 'just because' will never to me be a benign choice. Let him choose to deny himself all the above pleasure later in life if he wants - but don't remove said choice from the word go.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 9, 2020 11:38 AM |
Is this practice still going on? I understand insurance does not pay for it. The lame excuse they used to give parents to justify it was to say do you want your son to look different in front of the other boys in gym class. Well since boys no longer take showers in gym class and based on what I see in the health club they never strip in front of others That argument seems to no longer hold water. I am noticing more intact boys in porn and they are not all from outside the United States so perhaps the practice has stopped except when absolutely necessary.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 9, 2020 12:11 PM |
Thank-you, R4!
BTW, OP, the world is NOT flat.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 9, 2020 12:28 PM |
R13, I also heard that his sexual conquests never got a good look at little Elvis, since he only lasted about minute in bed.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 9, 2020 12:37 PM |
Uncut cocks feel much better to play with. Jealous much, mutilated troll?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 9, 2020 1:31 PM |
[quote]Jealous much, mutilated troll?
Of smegma? Of your mutilated mind? Dream on, anteater-dick.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 9, 2020 1:34 PM |
I have my foreskin still.
A family member who had an adult circumcision said that blowjobs were better after, but sex was worse.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 9, 2020 1:41 PM |
R20 - Truth!
“Ant eater” 😂
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 9, 2020 1:47 PM |
[quote] I guess my question for you, though, is how do YOU know? I would think the only way to know that it feels better and has a greater sense of sensation is for you to get circumsized, heal from the circumcision and then compare the sensation before and after.
You act like there aren't people who've done exactly that and gotten circumcision as an adult. There are plenty of shared experiences online. Some are totally fine with losing sensitivity since they last longer, some get serious troubles, some hate they can't wank anymore so easily without lube.
The thing with guys with foreskins is that we feel sorry for you since someone decided to cut off a part of you when you were a kid and had no say about the matter. Obviously most cut guys are just fine being cut, and that's that, I'm not shedding tears for you. I personally don't have a need to go around talking about circumcision but there's no denying it's a barbaric practice. The one's obsessed with the whole thing are people like OP who seem to have fetishized the whole thing and can't stand uncut dicks. I've never quite understood what's behind it but I suspect it's one of way bullying those who are supposedly below you. Uncut guys are seen as a minority and people like OP get pleasure from bullying them since they truly in some fucked-up way believe their circumcision has made people like him better. It's total idiocy.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 9, 2020 2:03 PM |
I don't know any guy who'd be willing to give up his turtleneck. It's just so weird to hear that so many people are cut for no reason in the US. It is useful in places of the world where using protection and having access to water is complicated, but if you have safe sex and basic hygiene, there is literally no advantage to it.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 9, 2020 2:57 PM |
[quote]It's just so weird to hear that so many people are cut for no reason in the US.
We are cut because our parents loved us.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 9, 2020 2:59 PM |
I find it very, very hard to believe that I could have better or more powerful orgasms with a foreskin. I wouldn't survive it. I'd die of orgasm.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 9, 2020 3:06 PM |
[quote]Stop male genital mutilation.
Do continue male genital perfection, though.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 9, 2020 3:09 PM |
But what a way to go, R26!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 9, 2020 9:45 PM |
Rate of circumcision around the world: blue is high, red is low, light pink is around 50%
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 9, 2020 9:58 PM |
I was circumcised at 8 years old (by a urologist under general anesthesia), so I remember what it used to feel like before and it was MUCH more sensitive.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 9, 2020 10:09 PM |
I’m glad I was circumcised as an infant and I’d hate to go through the procedure as an adult. Foreskin, to me, is not attractive, just like some of you may not find blonde men, hairy men, or skinny men attractive.
I also don’t think I’m missing out on sensitivity. Jerking off with lube feels great (and congrats if some of you don’t need lube), but I stroke my entire cock, not just the tip, so some sort of lubrication feels good.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 9, 2020 10:14 PM |
Why don't you ask men who've been circumcised as adults, OP, instead of the foreskin-obsessed?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 9, 2020 10:18 PM |
Abortion for some, miniature American flags for others.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 9, 2020 10:19 PM |
Circumcision is mostly promoted by Muslims and Jews so they don't stand out as unnatural.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 9, 2020 10:22 PM |
R34 Hello! You're forgetting the majority of Americans on this forum are FOR cutting. It's just as much a highly promoted cult practise here in the States, as it is in Orthodox and Conservative Jewish circles.
I cannot speak for the Muslims, as the few I happen to know personally are not religious, and two I know quite well, (one Turkish, one Persian), have not circumcised their sons.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 9, 2020 10:32 PM |
Foreskin is for animals. Who wants a dog dick? Besides all that cheesy shit that ALL intact guys say they washed off but that was twelve hours ago and yet it's back and they want you to put It in your mouth.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 9, 2020 11:09 PM |
Foreskin is for animals. Who wants a dog dick? Besides all that cheesy shit that ALL intact guys say they washed off but that was twelve hours ago and yet it's back and they want you to put It in your mouth.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 9, 2020 11:09 PM |
[quote]We are cut because our parents loved us.
Because loving parents mutilate their kids? Nice! I could never do that to my son. It's not my body to mutilate.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 10, 2020 12:02 AM |
R35 Yeah ok, I have a jewish friend who's not circumcised either. So what does an anecdotal point say?
A highly promoted cult practise (sic). That's a new one :)
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 10, 2020 1:52 AM |
R39 Just to be fair, it needs to be repeated ever so often here, as there's already enough anti-semitism on DL. Many modern Jews, Reform, Liberal-Progressives in Britain, and now some Conservatives in the States choose Brit Shalom, a naming ceremony, over the Brit Milah, or Bris.
There are several advocates in the American Intactavist groups who are Jews. Many regret being cut themselves. In the citations above in my post @ R4, two of the physicians quoted in the literature are Jews. Former American radio personality, and pediatric pulmonologist is another outspoken critic against circumcision. He used to talk at great length on the matter, and his choice not to have his son circumcised. Physicians who advocate the practise are far more dangerous, as they spread medical fallacies, and are heretics. They're also responsible for influencing, as well as coercing a greater number of parents. They violate their oath to "Do no harm". Those with religious rationalisations are coming from an unscientific POV to start with, and their influence is minuscule comparatively.
I happen to be a very outspoken on the matter, as well as an intact Jew.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 11, 2020 12:41 AM |
^ Dr. Dean Edell, somehow got edited out...
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 11, 2020 12:44 AM |