Even Boy George thinks gender identification is dumb

I always loved The Boy.

Boy George is wise

The Twitterati do NOT like that! How dare he??

Careful, girls, your OCD is showing.

The original tweet that started it all:

r4 I was wondering how long it would take for the "WHY IS ANYONE DARING TO QUESTION THIS!?@" troll to show up.

Gender-folk get pissed any time it's even implied that they could possibly be wrong about something. They're emotionally erratic narcissists. This isn't new news.

It seems as though a lot of people have forgotten that transdenity is a symptom of mental illness. What other mental illness has a treatment that involves enabling the delusions of the sick person?

Love the grocer's apostophe in his "pronoun's"

Goodbye, cruel world!

Didn't he keep a man as a sex slave and raped him? Plus, I recall him being desperate for attention on the Real Housewives. Fuck him! He has no leg to stand on.

Of course he would feel this way, because he knows how false gender is.

He was wearing heels and make up before most of these “embys” were even born, and he did it while being a HE. He made it cool to be feminine. What he didn’t do was chop off his nuts and force everyone to call him “zir””.

I wonder if he ever thought the response was calling out his appalling use of apostrophes.

Actually, R3, most of the comments are positive.

Has Boy George ever commented on Sam Smith? It's hard NOT to think that Sam Smith is nothing but a ripoff of Boy George. Boy George, Grade F.

I loathe Boy George with every fibre of my being. He’s a talentless fuck, riding on the coattails of nostalgia. Talentless, ugly and ultimately lacking in personality. However, he’s right. On this occasion. x

I see his gender bending as a form of performance art and a way to eviscerate stereotypes not reinforce them, which is what those who claim no gender identity are doing.

He locked a hustler in a closet in his home in NYC. I believe he was high and then like a fool called the police about something. He had to be. NYC street cleaner for the crime. When not high, he’s fine.

George needs to watch it. They came after Alison Moyet for far less.

Yeah, and the DSM used to have homosexuality as a mental disorder. What’s your point?

WELL, IT WILL BE OFF TO THE SJW AND TRANNY CONTROLED GULAGS FOR HIM ONCE WE'VE SET THEM UP! (I SUGGEST OBERLIN AND EVERGREEN COLLEGES!)

[quote]Yeah, and the DSM used to have homosexuality as a mental disorder. What’s your point?

r20, I am so freaking tired of ridiculous statements like this. So, because homosexuality was once classed as a mental illness does that mean gay people are forbidden from acknowledging the existence of mental illness in others?

Could you, or anyone for that matter, explain why some forms of body dsyporia (e.g. anorexia, those people who believe they should be disabled, etc.) are treated with therapy and medication whilst gender dsyphoria (i.e. transgender) is affirmed with surgery and hormones? Why is a man who wants to cut off his leg seen as crazy whilst another man who wants to cut off his dick seen as a hero? The difference in perception is solely because trans has been rolled into gay rights and framed as a human rights issue rather than a mental health issue.

r22 because homosexuality was once classed as a mental disorder, it stands to reason all other mental disorders are actually misclassed as well, and there are in fact, NO mental disorders!

r23, yes basically, their 'logic' falls apart at the slightest hint of questioning, hence the drive to silence dissenters.

He's a smart man. Read his bio Take It Like a Man. Bitch doesn't fuck around.

"George needs to watch it. They came after Alison Moyet for far less."

Yes, but Alison has that *special something* that makes her a far more attractive target to violent, delusional TRAs.

A real honest to goodness vag?

Vaginas have always been targets

R28 My eyes! MY EYES!!! x

Ew, r28. Someone stick a yoni egg in it.

Funny, people would accuse him of "attention seeking"

Some people don't have any self-awareness, I guess

"It seems as though a lot of people have forgotten that transdenity is a symptom of mental illness. What other mental illness has a treatment that involves enabling the delusions of the sick person?"

Republicans think homosexuality is a mental illness, and that gay rights are "enabling" gay people

Vaginas look like melting wax

This pronoun thing is bullshit. We have enough letters already with LGBTQ. I ain’t calling anyone they.

R34, using that logic, why should anyone call people gay instead of fag, homo, etc

Let people be called what they want to be called

That logic makes no sense r35 but keep going.

Because they is plural, R35. I will not call a single individual they. Maybe if they have multiple personalities and are therefore multiple people in one body I would consider it. I've never met anyone with DID, though, and I have serious doubts that it actually exists outside of tv and movies, so the situation is unlikely to come up.

R36, you and Boy George make no sense and have no self awareness

He seeks attention but attacks others for doing the same.

They are not amused, R38.

I am so sick of people comparing the pushback against trans to the pushback against gays. The fight trans people have been fighting is in no way comparable to the war gay men are still fighting. Trans people have been handed their demands on a silver platter barely five minutes after asking for them. Gays JUST got the right to marry five fucking years ago. It was legal to put gay men in jail for having consensual sex with each other until 2003. Trans people have absolutely no idea about the struggle we've had to fight, so no, they don't get to piggy back off of where we've been. Our two communities have fought completely different wars, wars which have also had completely different outcomes. Fuck off.

R37, conservatives say we shouldn't call ourselves "gay" because gay means happy

People should call themselves what they want.

I, for one, welcome our tranny overladies.

I can see it now,

Frau Bitch number 1: Oh you had a baby, did you have a boy or a girl?

Frau Bitch number 2: Oh we won't know until it informs us when it it a teenager.

Yasss the Boy has the transhoes' numbers. Love him.

You mean the Boy George who used to call himself "bi"

LOL

The only way I can think of trans people being systemically oppressed is being trans prostitutes being targeted by cops, but even that is just a result of the bigger problem with is prostitution being illegal in America. Trans people have in no way had to deal with the systemic and societal oppression gay men still face. Shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down, there's a difference between being targeted for something you can't control (who you love) and being targeted for something you can (wearing a dress while sporting a beard).

R44, most "frau bitches" are Republicans. Like you.

Who gives a fuck that he called himself bi in the homophobic 1980s, when you were in the closet? Stupid bitch, R45.

r47 actually some of us are very liberal and we think gender self-id is ridiculous. Because we're sane.

R48 = stupid misogynist Republican

R49 wants to pretend to be liberal while reciting Republican talking points. No sane person sides with Republicans.

R50, Trump 2020 supporter. Literally obsessed with the Repugs and comes and mentions them on every single thread, even one about an English popstar, where they are 100% irrelevant.

R41 People can call themselves One Eyed, One Horned, Flying Purple People-Eaters for all I care. However, that doesn't mean that I will call them that.

I will call them Xir, or Zhe, or Shim, or whatever new pronoun they want.

I will not, however, call a single person they, as they is an existing word that is plural.

So you're not only a douche but a grammar queen as well?

I will use normal pronouns, because there are only two sexes. If they are presenting as a womyn, I will call them "she". If they are presenting as a man, I will call them "he". If they are presenting as "It's Pat" from Saturday Night Live, I will awkwardly munge my sentences and try to fish to find out their real gender, with hilarious results.

If it makes you feel better to call me names, R53, go right ahead. My feelings can't really be hurt by an anonymous internet rando.

R55, but go ahead and call trans people names!

r56 which trans people? What names?

I didn't call any trans people names, R56. I said that I would call them any pronoun they want as long as it isn't they.

If theres any music from the long ago 80s that can transport me to a happier time and place,its his. That being said he needs to STOP trying to sing now. I love him and I always will.

Heteros created pronouns & when others want to be respected they plus a few gays (who must've had their boyfriends undergo a sex change operation & leave) go ballistic.

It's funny to see some lesbian feminists become outraged over pronouns when they helped bring about the Ms. label hated by conservative women & the likes of Rush Limbaugh who smear it whenever it comes up in the public arena. Also adding a y into women to make womyn.

I thought all of theses anti trans DLers started another message board to advance their cause. It was going to be so awesome. Funny I never hear it mentioned on the DL in passing.

If it's so dumb then why is he still known as "Boy" George?

Drop the boy & call yourself "Old Man George".

Who needs titles in this day & age?

Why have so many trans people like R60 been invading the DL lately? It's annoying. Doesn't PinkNews have any message boards for you guys to go spread your self-masturbatory sob stories in?

Nice try R62 but you don't have to be trans to support their rights/concerns.

This site has always been trans supportive & the anti trans loons keep throwing fits & threads to say otherwise.

Is Pink News the name of your new anti trans message board R62?

If not then what do you call it these days?

The trans and their obsessions with labels is tedious. Trans, non-binary, non-conforming, gender pronouns, it's ridiculous...

No, pro trans troll at r63....Datalounge has been mostly indifferent to actual trans people.

But then unfuckable incel straight men got the idea that putting on a tacky dress was all that was required to claim womanhood and actual lesbian women would be required to fuck them. Ya know, because of the unfuckable man’s feelings.

And then hulking men started beating actual women in women’s sporting events.

And Stefoknee Wolscht, Jessica Yaniv, “IT’S MAAM”, etc.

And then Datalounge, like all independent thinkers, became anti trans, you silly man in a nasty wig, whore’s makeup and latex tits.

R64 And the labels like fag hag, hasbian, dyke, bulldyke, twink, chicken hawk, bear, cub, queer etc. haven't been done to death by the other letters in the LGBT movement.

R65 I've been here here since the Bush years so I'm not "invading the DL lately". Try to keep up on the DL's history.

Whenever trans topics came up the majority of the DL came to their defense whether it was adoption rights, ID licenses changes or their right to be in the US military.

As someone pointed out above, most of you anti trans trolls have anti social personalities mostly found on the right side of the political spectrum (racist, sexist, anti semitic etc.). Being anti trans comes natural to you.

Just come out and say that you are Log Cabin idiots who can't love & accept yourself in front of others because trans people make you uncomfortable to be in the sexual minorities movement worldwide.

R67 links to this supposed pro trans sentiment for the Datalounge’s days of yore.

I don't need to search for old threads in which the anti trans trolls whined about all things trans.

The DL had several polls where the overwhelming majority told the anti trans thread makers to take their stuff elsewhere & guess what? Years later they are still here on a daily basis. Both Jenner & Jazz were supposed to abandon their trans identities by now (according to the anti trans trolls) but obviously that hasn't happened.

The anti trans loons said that the trans in the military (as well as other issues like bathroom access) would propel the right to more victories but the republicans lost the US House, many state houses & ballot measures in 2018. The public is supportive of trans people using the bathroom they identify with (including a majority of women) or the repubs would've passed a federal bill banning it (like they tried with same sex marriage) when they had total control of Wash. DC from Jan. 2017 to Jan. 2019. No bill banning trans in the bathrooms will ever be made federal law.

Their attempt to create a LGB only message board fell pretty damn hard as I haven't seen a single ling to their new promised land since.

Boy George also believes that holding escorts hostage is smart . . .

So you can’t back up your statements with proof r67 / r69

Do go on....embarrass yourself, and hurt your cause, by yammering more of your fact free statements

R70, trans activists and their apologists think that mutilating healthy body parts is something to be celebrated.

No r69, no one said that Jenner and Jazz, especially with their huge public profiles, were going to have abandoned their trans identities, but they have absolutely NOTHING to do with gay people and we are not part of the same community.

Even you don't believe the bullshit that they're "women".

R35, being a woman is not simply a matter of what you "want to be called".

R62, it's pretty much just one doing most of the posting, the one who thinks he's smart and makes "gotcha" points (which only show him up though). But even he doesn't really believe that trans women are women or that trans men are men.

R73 Don't go putting words in my mouth Boris. I've read the DL threads about Jenner & Jazz not really being trans & that both would recant (I laughed so hard).

R71 It's not about backing up my statements. I don't want to waste a lot of my time before going to bed on you anti trans trolls.

I know nothing will change your minds based on your venom. If you want to do a search, go back about 5 years for Jenner's big reveal if you want to see for yourself. I think one of the latest Jazz threads had many of you anti trans trolls saying that it would only be a matter of time Jazz would come out as gay. (LOL!)

You're being dumb R75. I just started posting around R60 so the other pro trans posts on this thread aren't my responses. Don't you know how to block folks to tell who is posting what? You must be the invader that R62 mentioned.

Still waiting on that proof to back up your baseless statements r76

R76, to a degree you're right, some years ago gay people were pretty supportive of trans, when trans people just wanted normal regular rights, like not to be discriminated against in the workplace and generally be respected.

Then the whole "gender" bullshit started, the gay community was taken over by the QTIN-B2S+++++ bs, the gays have been told to shut up, biological men can take part in women's sports and be catered for at women's refugees, lesbians have to suck dick otherwise they're "terfs", physical bodies don't matter only gender identity, we're expected to celebrate the mutilation of healthy bodies, little kids who don't follow gender stereotypes are labelled trans, and all the other "gender identity" bs.

So, yes, gay people were always supportive of reasonable trans demands. Gay people didn't change in their position, however, it's the "gender identity" and "queer" bs that is new and is trying to fuck everything up.

Just admit it, even you don't believe Jazz and Caitlyn are women.

I look at trans people the same way I look at mentally unstable drug addicts. They can live their life the way that they choose to and I won't say boo, but I will avoid interacting with them at all costs and cross the street when I see them coming down the sidewalk. We're all entitled to our own insanity, but keep your insanity private and enclosed in a little bubble of like minded insane people so that the rest of the world doesn't have to put up with your bullshit. I guess that's why we all hate trans people at the end of the day: because they can't just stay in their own little bubble, they have to make everything about them and have everyone kissing the ground they walk on. It's the ultimate exercise in narcissism.

Throw another LGB name on the transcult barbie:

RuPaul, Martina, now Boy George.

Once again, call me when the Ts are organizing against Trump, Pence, Barr, et al.

Boy George is LITERALLY KILLING Ts!

[quote]What they don’t know is sharing their views in such a public way with the platforms they have [bold]literally kills[/bold] trans and non-conforming people.

Trans people MADE Boy George!

[quote]Boy George made his career standing on the backs of trans/nb people but refuses to show us basic human decency by respecting pronouns, i.e. the absolute bare minimum of manners. Absolute top tier cunt.

'This site has always been trans supportive & the anti trans loons keep throwing fits & threads to say otherwise.'

This is the funniest statement I've ever read on here. DL is the least supportive of the trans of any website I've ever encountered....and we are fine with that, hoe.

Boy George made his career out of the British New Romantic and goth movement in the early 1980s. They bought his music. Nothing at all to do with trans - they try to own everything.

This needs posting again, as you can see the Trans Lunatic in this thread using all of these techniques:

A thread.

I’ve started to notice a pattern to all these conversations with the Genderists who want women’s stuff.

First they come in all sweet and hurt. Why won’t you just let us pee?

Then if that doesn’t work, they move on to manipulation. TWAAANSPHOBE usually

1/ gets hurled at this point. This will accompany lots of other manipulation techniques where they try to claim they have the high road.

Third comes the rage. Often accompanied by the death threats or the threats to deplatform or get you unemployed.

Last is blocking. 2/ It’s important the Genderists keep their bubble. They must get constant reinforcement for their cult. They will use the word “validation”. They will use terms such as “you are erasing us”.

Do not misunderstand. They are skills manipulators. But it helps when you can 3/ see the games.

Get familiar with DARVO. Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim and Offender. This will happen. A LOT. They will accuse you of exactly what they are doing. It actually helps understand what they are doing.

4/ For your own sanity, you can just look at as a child’s game of Opposite Day.

They will twist things you’ve said. This is a known time waster. So at that point you are spinning your wheels saying that’s not what I said.

It’s easier to simply point out you see the game. 5/ 6/

1. Bat their eyes and play victim 2. Manipulate with useless conversations, endless discussions about what biology means. 3. Attempts to control with TWAAANSPHOBIA hurled. 4. Rage and death threats 5. Blocking/shunning/evicting 7/.

What you will never see is any acknowledgement of anyone who is being affected by their behavior. The Extreme Genderists are remarkably lacking in empathy. No conversation will ever take anyone else into consideration. They don’t even see you. 8/

You’ll break your back trying to be kind and trying to find a solution that works for both of you. They only seek solutions that work for them.

Once you see these patterns it gets easier not to be swayed by the games and not to be manipulated. 9/

If you feel your heart pounding, that’s you being manipulated. If you find yourself rushing to defend yourself. You are being manipulated. If you are making concessions and receiving zero consideration in return, you are being manipulated. 10/. And if you think all this is crazy, it is. You are not wrong. Do not doubt yourself. You are correct.

Up is not down. Black is not white. The earth is not flat. Men are not women.

r81 oh lord. If only.

They got to The Vivienne. Although, it's a non-apology apology, at least.

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“I apologise if anybody was offended, never my intention, never my narrative.”

The Vivienne has issued an apology to her followers for supporting Boy George over his controversial tweet about pronouns.

Earlier this week, the Culture Club star came under fire from the LGBTQ community on social media, specifically those who identify as trans and gender non-conforming, for tweeting (unprovoked): “Leave your pronoun’s at the door!”

After a fan said his comments were ridiculous, he responded: “You must refer to me as ‘Napoleon’ and that’s as ridiculous as it gets! I used the ladies toilet throughout the 80s!” He then called preferred pronouns a “modern form of attention seeking”.

Boy George’s comments came as a shock to fans. Throughout his career, the star has been praised for his flamboyant and androgynous image and has been credited with paving the way for other gender-bending performers and artists.

The LGB Alliance, a trans exclusionary organisation, supported Boy George, tweeting: As lesbians, gays and bisexuals we applaud @BoyGeorge for saying what many people think and few say. At the #lgballiance we don’t “have” pronouns.”

The Vivienne subsequently came under criticism from her fans for responding to his tweet: “This!”

After receiving backlash on Twitter, the RuPaul’s Drag Race UK winner told her followers that she’d “like everybody to respect and understand other people pronouns,” and said she’s “done nothing but fight for this for years”.

She later wrote: “I apologise if anybody was offended, never my intention, never my narrative. Learn, grow.”

Boy George is unrepentant. Good for him!

Quote from the execrable Pink News: 'On January 8, PinkNews reached out to Boy George’s management, who replied: “The concept of […] asking whether Boy George is transphobic is so stupid it doesn’t warrant a response.”'

Haha, PinkNews hates it when they can't bully someone into submission.

Serving.

Love me some George ! What an unrepentant bitch ! He truly is my spirit animal .

That Darren guy is one fucking idiot lol. The TRAs have gone into full meltdown mode and are now attempting to undermine BG's statement by bringing up his past convictions as if that has anything to do with this pronoun BS. Yeah, he did the crime and he did the time, it's no secret, so what of it? They must be desperate if that's all they got. And I'm sure these same fuckers are happy to stay quiet when MTFs are out here doing all kinds of fucked up shit, much worse than anything BG has done, and getting away with it too.

His Twitter name: Boy George (Boomer)

Hahaha! He truly does give zero fucks.

r92 they're furious because people are pushing back finally.

GULAGS FOR EVERYONE THEN, R94!

r95 Are you drunk? You seem drunk.

IN CASE YOU THINK I JEST!

Any gay man who still supports this insanity is nothing but a pathetic doormat. You didn't think it was weird when GLAAD was taken over by "Jennifer" BOYlan, a man with a wife and kids who led a crusade against RuPaul (who was instrumental in the creation of GLAAD) for "bigotry", and the word Gay immediately being dropped from its acronym? You didn't flinch when you saw formerly gay news outlets like Queerty, Pinknews, HuffPo Gay Voices (now known as "Queer Voices") being repurposed into queer/fluid/trans mouthpieces (with your weekly lists of Hottest Trans Guys We Can't Get Enough Of, because don't you know sexual orientation is fluid and not about biological sex and genitals, you bigot)? You didn't start to wonder when even motherfucking hookup apps like Grindr began pushing this nonsense of "Gender identity" and "Pronouns"?

Get a grip, ffs.

The morons at Pink News are currently celebrating Pakistan for trans rights-- a country where homosexuality is illegal.

What is the penalty for homosexuality in Pakistan?

I tried looking up what the penalty in Pakistan for homosexuality was and got bombarded with trans shit. They really are trying their damndest to erase gay men. We should be afraid, very very afraid. Anyways, it looks like the typical punishment is life imprisonment or death, but there are state officials' children who've gotten off with a fine, house arrest for life, and castration (chemically or otherwise).

I love this. It's one thing for some stodgy old conservative guy to say this, another for it to be someone whom they probably lauded as an "enby icon" or something silly like that. Someone who ACTUALLY fucks with the stereotypes instead of reinforcing them.

I kind of wonder if we finally reached peak trans/pronoun. No one cares about Caitlyn-Bruce, anymore and JK Rowling made her comment, didn't retract and is doing just fine. Her books still sell like crazy. Hollywood's not going to bankroll a major film about trans because, as a group, they're just not worth the headache.

All they've got is being a Twitter mob and people are very slowly starting to figure out that Twitter doesn't really mean that much. Throw in the very dirty laundry of predators like Jessica Yanov and being trans ain't nearly as cool as it was even two years ago.

Knock on wood, hopefully we're seeing the end of the trans trend.

They are still a force at many liberal arts colleges where there is inevitably an office of LGBTQ÷ concerns sucking up money, holding workshops on pronouns , and supporting trans and nonbinary kids in their attempts to intimidate faculty.

r103 the trans crowd is SO PISSED she defied them and they couldn't guilt, shame, or bully her into recanting.

[quote]R33 Vaginas look like melting wax

And? What’s wrong with melted wax?

I thought he died or was that just his career.