Andrew "Milky Loads" Sullivan steps in it again by tweeting about whether black men have bigger dicks

A few choice responses, starting with the most DL-esque of the bunch - also, Woke Twitter is all up his ass:

"Andrew Sullivan’s latest racist nonsense reminds us how horrible he has always been. Since he will never change, wouldn’t it be great to hold the liberal media that made him into a pundit accountable for propping up self-hating gay conservatives instead of queer left critiques?"

"I realize that your brain has been broken ever since TNC surpassed you in acclaim as an essayist and wrote books people actually bought and read, but re-embracing race pseudoscience invented by slavemasters is not the way to validate yourself."

"The way you can tell Andrew Sullivan isn’t the intellectual he thinks he is is that there’s no humility or reflection in his questioning. Black intellectuals are taking him to school and he just keeps doubling down on his bullshit."

"#AndrewSullivan is talking about BBCs and y’all are talking about Andrew Sullivan as a result. The first is worse, but y’all making this guy trend is giving him a reach around. Good job everybody. BBC is big black cocks btw, but you already knew that. Have s nice evening."

"Remember when Andrew Sullivan wasn’t a penis obsessed eugenist? Me neither."

"I used to collect examples of how the "work" of so many conservative pundits was just epiphenomenal extrusions of the grossest kinds of vulgar Freudian pathology but then I realized Andrew Sullivan's TL already exists"

"Andrew Sullivan is on Twitter demanding evidence of the genitalia size of black men and honestly 2020 is cancelled already."

"We’re all just asking for cooler heads to prevail so we can prevent WW3 and Andrew Sullivan is basically soliciting dick pics."

Verificatia at last!

I desperately care what Black Twitter thinks!

We’ve all seen the porn, darlings.

I don't think woke folk are really ever going to like him for any reason at any time.

I'm not sure why they're calling him racist. He's merely challenging a person who used this data point as a "myth" and asked her to see the proof of it being a "myth". It sounded like she just made an assumption and didn't or couldn't back it up.

But of course it means that all of Black Twitter (and hangers-on) have to gangbang him and try to cancel him over it. This is why people can't have civil discussions anymore.

So you are going with the "if only only the left were more tolerant of the intolerance of the right, the world would be a better place" argument?

r7 what are you even on about?

Sully's been jerking it to Mandingo again.

R8: "If you don't agree with my racism, then you're the intolerant evil one, not me!" That is the right wing response in arguments such as this since the 90s. And R6 is using exactly that tactic to defend the old toad. Are you new?

She TAKES milky loads

and

she GIVES milky loads

R11: Are sure about that? Maybe we should send an email to make sure it's not a myth that Captain Bareback gives milky loads...

r10 like I said, WHAT ARE YOU EVEN ON ABOUT?

You aren't addressing the actual content of what was said and are just calling it "racist", which is stupid. And then you're attacking me.

Learn critical thinking skills.

People need to retweet his porn pics whenever he says something this stupid. I know someone has them out there.

R13: Ah, my bad, I thought you were genuine. Turns out you're either a retard or fucking disingenuous. Andrew Sullivan is a documented racist, and this is more racist stereotyping by him. The fact that you defend this and pretend not to understand right wing bullshitery despite it being explained to you, tells us all we need to know. You're dismissed, bitch.

R6 is correct. People are making fools of themselves getting upset over this.

Who the hell gives a flying fuck about how Black Twitter feels about anything?

With all due respect, I have problems of my own.

r15 I'm just talking about what he said in his Tweet that everyone is freaking out about.

You're using Twitter-style arguing where you just throw out random words and think you're making some brilliant point but you're just showing you have no intelligence whatsoever.

Go back to Twitter with your nonsense.

R18: If you don't care, then stop commenting on this thread that you don't care.

R19: You clearly did not read the final command I gave to you. You. Are. Dis. Missed. Bitch!

r20 your mistake is in thinking that your Twitter-style commandments have any effect here whatsoever.

I'm surprised you haven't posted a GIF with Nene Leakes or a RPDR contestant yet.

R17: The Lord bless and keep you and let no evil befall you. But watch out, you're posting pictures with no context and Andrew's Bitch at R19 will tell you to go back to Twitter.

Buddy Cole isn’t a reliable source?

OMG, r13--r15 has gone ahead and CANCELED you!

"final command"???

[italic]Mary.[/italic]

So the NYT said that it’s a myth that black men have big cocks and Andrew said it’s not a myth. And that’s why Black Twitter is mad at him?!? Doesn’t Black Twitter want to encourage this myth instead of shooting it down and saying they don’t have big dicks?

Sully always has been & always will be a piece of shit.

So funny that it’s the clam about black dicks he wants fact-checked “as a test.” He’s just randomly chosen big dicks as something he wants researched, solely in the the interest of science and truth.

R5, maybe save your rage for Republicans instead of "woke" folks

[quote]So the NYT said that it’s a myth that black men have big cocks and Andrew said it’s not a myth. And that’s why Black Twitter is mad at him?!? Doesn’t Black Twitter want to encourage this myth instead of shooting it down and saying they don’t have big dicks?

Seeing as "Black Twitter" consists of more than Mrs Patrick Campbell, I'm guessing they take objection to being the subject of Mandingo-esque fetishization from white people (and in particular gay size queens) like Sully (and half of DL) who continue to believe – despite basic biological reality – that "black men have bigger dicks than everyone else." This is roughly akin to concluding that the "average" cock size in general is 8" solely because you're "used" to seeing it in gay porn – meaning all men, not just men of color.

What stupid question is next? "Why do 'they' get so offended by my Grindr profile saying I'm looking for thug dick? Like OMG, don't they know it's a *compliment*?? Yum!"

Yeah, we do.

Andrew Sullivan, a common troll trying to be Milo Y.2.0. How the mighty Milky Loads has fallen ... even further.

I hate when Bill Maher has him on (or Dan Savage for that matter).

I first read something by him in high school in the late 90s and my reaction even then was "Wtf is this tool on about?"

There really needs to be a comparable term to "uncle tom" pertaining to sexual identity for gays like him.

OP is such a troll. I think he's been mentioning the milky loads thing in reference to Andrew Sullivan since I started reading this site a long ass time ago. All he did was look to bareback after getting HIV. It's a really disgusting thing to continue to bring up a quote from someone's sex profile DECADES ago. Lots of guys love cum. They think its hot. I'm not one of them. But I dont go around shaming gay dudes for getting off on the idea of cum. You're sex shamey AND an awful person. It's not like he was looking for anything shameful or embarrassing. He wanted to get fucked.

the most terrible part of this site is that some random piece of negative information about a celebrity imprints on users and they continue to bring it up at every single possible opportunity until they drop dead.

Dear r34,

Andrew Sullivan's milky loads barebacking sex profile came at a time when Sullivan was publicly criticizing gay men for barebacking.

Those bad, bad irresponsible gays. Not good gays like hypocritical Andy.

So Miss Thing was repeating the conservative meme of bad barebacking irresponsible gay men while doing the exact same thing himself.

And he's still an asshole.

He only changed his stripes slightly when Obama was president.

I guess because of BBC.

"the most terrible part of this site is that some random piece of negative information about a celebrity imprints on users and they continue to bring it up at every single possible opportunity until they drop dead."

That's the internet honey. And life because sometimes your bullshit comes back to bite you in the ass.

But let Marcia Brady explain it all for you...

R34, Andrew Sullivan built his career on moralizing against gay male sex. His “Milky Loads” episode proved he was a hypocrite of the highest order. You are an idiot.

Ita has been literally scientifically mapped that black men do have bigger dongs I don't see what the problem is. Then again perpetual victimhood is a way of living.

What he said was racist and those objecting to it aren't "woke." Despite what the resident eldergays think, merely objecting to casual racism doesn't make someone a "woke SJW." It's weird how out of touch so many of you are, and proud of it to boot.

And listen to R35, folks. He's right: Sullivan was being a scold and a hypocrite and "milky loads" should stick with him forever.

Why would he even bother to say this? To enter this controversy? I think he's losing it.

R37, that's not accurate, which goes back to the point of the NY Times article that Sullivan was challenging. Men from one African country--the Republic of Congo--have the largest average dick size. That has nothing to do with the dick size of African-Americans, who are not necessarily from Congo, and are often ethnically mixed. Which subcontinent has the largest average dick size? South America.

[quote] What he said was racist and those objecting to it aren't "woke."

How does this make him racist, i.e., dislikes black people?

I'm not going to explain casual racism to you. Look it up, lazy.

Did someone above say he's turning into Milo Y. Yeah, it's true.

Ah the “you’re a RACIST!!!!11!11!” caterwaul.

Designed to instantly stop all reasonable discussion on a matter in its tracks.

SMH.

What reasonable discussion was stopped, R44? Seriously.

Here, for example, r45.

People who are asking what makes this racist are getting dismissed as racists themselves and as though they should know all the minutiae of this entire thing.

Biggest cocks are to be found in Ireland.

“Luck o’ the Irish” sticks for a reason!

He’s a terrible person who should have been run out of this country on a rail decades ago. Stop posting his stupid racist bullshit here. Fuck you, OP.

Poor Andrew. He's only trying desperately to be relevant again

Dear R45: Saying all men with one skin color have large genitals is racist. You are stereotyping based on skin color. Hope that clears it up, babe. It's not hard to understand.

The Mandingo stereotype/fantasy is racist, full stop. It’s a sexual trope born out of the literal breeding of human slaves, and expolited for both the titillation of whites and the incarceration and murder of countless African American men framed for raping white women. It’s not some harmless fantasy you get to project on anyone at any time.

Reducing an entire ethnic group to a physical feature stereotypically attributed to them is racist; see Jews and large noses or East Asians and “slitty” eyes for further examples. This shouldn’t require explanation. It doesn’t for non-racists.

Sullivan gleefully engages in both of these stereotypes when the topic at hand is HUMAN SLAVERY. He zeroes in on this absurd fixation when the point was actually about one of the most egregious legacies of white supremacy ever enacted on this earth.

He’s absolutely vile and his defenders are as well.

I am pretty sure the black men having big dicks stereotype is based on this historical and cultural perception.

[quote] If you’ve ever wondered why classical statues—meaning those of the Greek and Roman varieties—are so modestly endowed, the answer lies in societal views on penis size in those eras. The Greeks believed small penises were a sign of intelligence and cultural distinction. [bold] Big penises, conversely, were regarded with disdain, a signifier of a lusty, bestial, lowly sex-ogre with animalistic cravings.[/bold]

It helped to dehumanize black slaves even further and making slavery ok.

[quote]People who are asking what makes this racist are getting dismissed as racists themselves and as though they should know all the minutiae of this entire thing.

I didn't call the guy asking why this was racist a racist himself, I told him to go look up what casual racism was. No one called him a racist.

And I told him to go look it up because anyone who comes into a thread after it's well under way and asks something basic like "What is racism?" is 99 times out of 100 hoping someone will answer so they can argue with the definition of racism.

You're talking to the wrong person, asshole R50. I didn't ask what racism was and I understand completely why this was racist.

I was responding specifically to R44 who said my telling the troll to go look up what casual racism was for himself was "stopping all reasonable discussion."

It's worth noting that the inability of Dataloungers to follow conversations (which may be a side effect of the ignore feature) is one reason why this thread has not been anything close to a "reasonable discussion."

Who cares what this racist limey AIDS-riddled ho bag thinks? He should have been canceled the moment he called for an invasion of Israel. Typical limey Catholic racism: punish the Jews for what is 100% the fault of gentile trash like him and that pedophile church he still kisses the ass of.

Fuck you, Sully. You represent everything wrong with gay white men.

Oh and “limey” means “honky” so it is racist to object to either one.

[quote]ever since TNC surpassed you in acclaim as an essayist and wrote books people actually bought and read

Pardon my ignorance, but who is TNC?

The biggest guy I was ever with was Dutch, so figure that one out.

The one black guy I've been with was maybe a bit above average. He was insecure about it because he thought the only reason anyone would want him is because of the black guys have big dicks stereotype. And the biggest dick I've had was on a bog standard small town Canadian white boy, easily 8.5"x7". I'm a top so it was wasted on me but it did make me feel a little underequipped, despite being 7"x5.5".

[quote] The Mandingo stereotype/fantasy is racist, [bold]full stop.[/bold]

*eyeroll*

[quote]The Mandingo stereotype/fantasy is racist, full stop.

Even when I fantasize about it?

R59 What is "bog standard?"

Dicks that are too big can tear up your asshole anyway.

Andrew Sullivan is the face of gay white men. He represents them perfectly.

He lives up to the stereotypes with flying colors. He's the very definition of what gay white men are.

And here's the Race Bait Troll! Yaaaaaaaay!

All things considered, he's still less of an embarrassment to the gay community than Danny Pintauro.

Is he still with his husband? Last night, on Bill Maher's show, he said he's been alone for 6 weeks and that he may have to go without sex for the next year. He also claimed that despite always being careful about safe sex, he accidentally got infected with HIV. Isnt his bareback history an open secret?

I saw him last night, too. He looked to be on the verge of a total breakdown. I felt bad for him -As I do for anyone going through a rough time (myself, included).

No offense as I do like Andrew, but he kinda always seems that way to me R68.

[quote] self-hating gay conservatives instead of queer left critiques

Oh look, another "gay is evil, queer is good" asshole. How is that the most "DL" comment?

Exhibit A:

Lorraine Wagner’s aunt told Dorothy who claimed it’s “a myth”:

“Call it what you want I’m just thankful!!”

[quote]He looked to be on the verge of a total breakdown.

He pretty much acknowledges it in a new column for New York magazine:

"I began to lose it this week.

My sleep patterns are totally screwed up, and I find myself waking up tense several times a night, or crashing out for 10 or 12 hours at a time. I wake up and want to go back to sleep. My appetite is waning, and my body longs for some weights to push and pull. My teeth grind all night long and my jaw is tense. I have all the time in the world to read and write, and yet I find myself anesthetized with ennui, procrastinating and distracting myself. Yes, I scan the news every day, often hourly, to discern any seeds of progress."

[quote] My appetite is waning

Well, that should work out very well for him.

R72: What a bitch Captain Bareback is. Rule 1, STOP READING NEWS! Read it in the morning, and then no more the rest of the day! That alone will calm you and allow you better sleep. He misses weights? Order some to be delivered to the house, dear. And I love how he says he can't work. You're a writer! You've always had the ability to work from home and I'm sure he has on occasion. Miss Sullivan is just upping the drama to be the contrarian bitch she was always meant to be.

I think R74 pretty much has Andrew's number.

Andrew Sullivan is a fat, hairy annoying hack and hopefully he'll drop dead soon and won't be remembered.

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Is he still married? Can't he ride his man all day long to combat all that ennui?

Is this guy gay or bi? I recall when the sex ads came about that he was also seeking out women to hook up with. Am I right? Or am I thinking of someone else?

He was "seeking couples". Munching on beef curtains is a small price for getting bred by a big married cock.

Someone must care enough to read him

r79, thanks, I knew I remembered it involved women in some way.

I can’t believe anyone still takes him seriously at this point. Who is his audience?

He's fat. How can e see his penis?