Who Was Your Favorite Angel From Charlie’s Angels? Who Did You Despise? Why?

Drew Barrymore.

Jaclyn Smith. She was so pretty and a decent enough actress for what the show was.

Farrah

Shelley Hack all the way. East coast sophistication.

Sabrina. I loved how she could prove Fermat's Last Theorem while arguing on the phone with Bosley, applying lip-gloss in the mirror, and engaging in a high-speed car chase.

Is your least favorite Kelly Garrett or Julie Rogers, OP?

Shelley Hack as Tiffany Welles dressed by Nolan Miller

[quote] Favorite: Kris Monroe - beauty, brains and body.

"brains"??

Seasons 1, 2, and 5 are on Hulu now.

Sabrina (lez) was my least fave

Shelley Hack was an underrated Angel. So chic and totally in on the joke. I love her. Sabrina is pretty fantastic, too. Smart and drove that cute orange Pinto.

Frankly, I loved them all.

I probably hate Tanya just because she signified the show on its last legs, and she kind of gave off a porny vibe.

And YES!!!! TO the bitch above. I LOVE SHELLEY HACK!!! And she kicked ass in The Stepfather. Such an icy beauty. Loved her.

1. Kate Jackson

2. Farrah Fawcett

3. Tanya Roberts

4. Jaclyn Smith

5. Cheryl Ladd

6. Shelley Hack

IMO, Shelley Hack was too flat-chested for the role. There was already Kate Jackson (flat-chested). This was supposed to be a show about woman cops running down the street w/chests bouncing.

However, I recently saw "King of Comedy" for the first time. Surprise, there's Shelley Hack. She was good in the role.

Shelley deserves her own thread. Posts upon posts of Charlie perfume ads!

The lesbians all identified with Sabrina Duncan.

R17 what was with Sabrina’s turtlenecks?

I was a kid but : Farah Fawcett looked scary and not nice at all. The next one was cuter. There was a super beautiful brunette, I think Sabrina? And another one who was kind of ugly, like a school teacher or a pharmacist. Kate? My mother would usually send us to play outdoors instead of watching garbage so the last I remember from the series was that dramatic line, after an explosion in a building : ' KELLY! she's DEAD!! SABRINA IS DEAD'. Likewise I never knew WHET Alyson McKenzie because she was RAPED, and after the brunette lady confronted the perpetrator with that word' ' after you' ve RAPED Alyson!! '. I was sent outside. Mia was pretty

TV Series- Kelly Garrett.

First Movie Series - Alex.

New Movie - haven’t seen it.

[quote] My mother would usually send us to play outdoors instead of watching garbage so the last I remember from the series was that dramatic line, after an explosion in a building : ' KELLY! she's DEAD!! SABRINA IS DEAD'. Likewise I never knew WHET Alyson McKenzie because she was RAPED, and after the brunette lady confronted the perpetrator with that word' ' after you' ve RAPED Alyson!! '.

The character of Allison Mckenzie was written off Peyton Place in 1966, and Charlies Angels premiered a full ten years later in 1976.

Even if you were only six years old when you watched Peyton Place, are you telling us your mother sent you off to play at age 16???

Because I was raised partly in the south of France and Peyton place was on in the 70's

Kate/Sabrina was the best angel because she was the only one who took on different personas while working undercover. Jill, Kris, and Kelly just gave themselves a different last name and profession ("Hi, I'm Kelly Garrick, a lady journalist doing a story for Women's Circle Magazine"). But they spoke and acted exactly the same.

Jaclyn was my favorite maybe because she was the most beautiful but Kate/Sabrina was second because she was the smartest Farrah looked so strange and was such a bad actress back then that she was just there Oh and in case anyone was unaware Cheryl Ladd aka Kris is a right-wing bitch.

R24 seriously, I had no idea Cheryl Ladd was a right wing bitch.

R25, you are very right. Believe EVERY SINGLE WORD that's ever printed on datalounge.com. It's the voice of TRUTH.

I loved them all, but Jaclyn Smith was my favorite.

Farrah Fawcett was cheap and tacky as hell, but Charlie’s Angels showcased her meager talents perfectly. She was by far the liveliest.

I don’t know quite how she did it, as she had a terrible baby voice and was really just a glorified spokesmodel...but she really was the most fun to watch. Maybe because she took it the least seriously?

Her 3 films after she left the show to be a big movie star bombed...so, whatever. Sayonara, sweetheart!

As a kid I could sense that Fawcett wad a nasty cunt. That grin on the poster said GREED. I really didn't like her

This thread would be better with Shelley Hack!

I think Kate Jackson had a crush on Farrah.

[quote]R29 That grin on the poster said GREED. I really didn't like her.

You think there’s Hollywood figures WITHOUT greed?

Why would you single Fawcett out for this?

Because this poster was EVERYWHERE. Like she was IT. where you around? It was sickening. Tons of TV stars were more beautiful or more talented, or had warmth and some tenderness in them. Even in that cast. Natalie Wood, Jaclyn Smith, are the first that come to mind, but there were TV stars that were likeable and motherly, in a kid's eyes.

Natalie Wooden died while CA was on tv. Not of the same era.

Drew B. + Lucy Liu

[quote]Charlie’s Angels showcased her meager talents perfectly. She was by far the liveliest.

Farrah was lively during season one. Her guest appearances in subsequent seasons were always quite sullen and telegraphed "I really don't want to be here."

Team Kelly! Kris stinks! Cheryl Ladd was a total cunt to me in the 80’s, so I’m biased.

Farrah isn’t lively anymore

Favorite: Sabrina.

Least favorite: Seasons 3-4 Jill (for the reasons stated by r36), Season 5 Kelly (she had turned into a total frau) and Season 4 Kris (for reasons that are well known to her).

[quote]r36 Farrah was lively during season one. Her guest appearances in subsequent seasons were always quite sullen and telegraphed "I really don't want to be here."

Oh....I hadn't even been counting those.

The return guest slots were indeed more like visits to a parole officer than performances. I only saw the first one, and all the magic was gone. It was like, "Why did we ever think she was so special?"

R34, Charlie's Angels went off the air in June of 1981. Natalie Wood died in November of that year. I don't see the point of this, but they were definitely around at the same time. Natalie's peak fame, however, was in the 1960s.

Natalie Wood was a good 10 years older than the ladies from CA.

I love the pic and the style of the Cheryl, Jaclyn and Shelly. That was a good look! I imagine around 1980?

Shelley was on during season four, R43 (fall '79 through spring of 1980).

It's kind of sad (pathetic, really) that Natalie Wood owned a piece of the show, yet couldn't even get herself a guest slot on it.

She was on the way out...

It annoys me in the later seasons that the Angels didn’t get updated cars.

They’re supposed to be these sophisticated women in expensive clothes, but they’re driving a Pinto with missing trim, a Mustang Cobra that’s dirty, and a Mustang Ghia with a large upholstery tear covered by electrical tape. It’s really bad in season five, and odd. Tv shows usually update the cars when the carmaker redesigns the car, not Charlie’s Angels.

Oddly, Bodley got a new car, a station wagon.

Jaclyn Smith was my favorite. She was so beautiful. As a kid growing up in the 1970s, we'd always play act at recess whatever our favorite shows were. Whenever we did Charlie's Angels, I was Charlie but more involved in whatever the mystery was. The girls all fought like the devil over who was going to play Kelly. No one fought as much about Jill (then later Chris) and no one wanted to be Sabrina except the tomboy in the class.

Kelly

Kris

Jill

not sure why they were afraid to throw the ball into Tiffany's court; they did that with Kris and she was fine.

Maybe they should have made Tiffany Sabrina's cousin or something....?

Loved this show as a kid; it was magical.

R50, as I recall, the story has always been that Shelley was not good at remembering her lines in the beginning, so they basically gave up on her and split up her lines between Jaclyn and Cheryl. Perhaps this was true and perhaps it wasn't, but I always found it curious given how Hack didn't seem to have an issue delivering perfectly capable performances in other shows (including a short-lived series of her own, "Jack & Mike," post Angels). Maybe she just got better at her craft over time but I also recall the story after her dismissal saying that the producers were disappointed because she hadn't helped rebuild the show's ratings, which started to fade post Kate, so who knows.

I believe they hired an acting coach for Hack and she refused to go to him. She was also difficult with the wardrobe and hair people too from what I recall hearing.

Tanya Roberts was considered in 1979 as Kate’s replacement but they went with Hack because of the Charlie commercials she was doing at the time.

Why did Kate Jackson hate Cheryl Ladd?

Kate started hating Cheryl after she pushed this musical number on the show.

I always heard too that Kate didn't like Cheryl simply because she replaced Farrah (with whom Kate and Jaclyn were still good friends). If true, that means she probably would've been cold to whomever had stepped into that role.

Going back to Shelley for a moment, I always found it interesting that, despite her minimal role on the show, there are still people who will list her as their favorite angel or, at the very least, thought she was great on the show. Go figure.

Because she was a bulldagger, and Ladd was having [italic]none of it.

Ladd was and is a right-wing bitch. Kate hated her for it.

Costume designer Nolan Miller said Kate Jackson ran very hot + cold. Almost in an unbalanced way. For instance, they really started hating each other at one point during the series (maybe partially because she never wanted to come in for wardrobe fittings) and Jackson suddenly invitated him on a trip to Hawaii over a long weekend. He said, "I don't even want to RALK to you, let alone go on a VACATION with you!"

Kate Jackson was probably the most inately intelligent of the angels. The stupidity of the writing must have begun to grate on her over time, plus the show had been conceived -- at least in her eyes -- as a starring vehicle for herself. (She did initially make twice what Fawcett and Smith were making, $10,000 a week vs. $5,000.) So, what I can imagine is, it wasn't anything Ladd did that rubbed Jackson the wrong way... it was just that she acted like she was literally on the rag half the time.

In this interview, though, it's Shelley Hack who he says was "the bitch of the century."

^^ oh god, I meant "TALK to you," "not "RALK to you".

Tho I bet he didn't want to "ralk" to her, or anything else, either! At the 10:25 mark here, he says he was ready to leave the show altogether over her being so uncooperative, and the solution was just handing Jackson over to one of the wardrobe girls to handle, so they were kept apart.

R37 can you share how Cheryl was a cunt to you?

Nolan Miller seems like quite the cunt himself.

He started out working for Joan Crawford. 'nuff said.

I have been told I bear a striking resemblance to Miss Cheryl Ladd, although my bosoms are perkier.

“Farrah Fawcett was cheap and tacky as hell,”

We loved tacky. It’s what held her pin-up posters on the wall—at least initially. Millions of young men used our product to nail her to the walls and ceilings, and then would shoot their own ‘glue’ to make her stick.

She was on some show and a guy told her how much her poster "meant" to him as a teenager and she replied with a weird comment that was basically I'm glad I help you become a heterosexual.

I always thought of Beamish as an unofficial Angel.

Natalie was in fact a producer of the show and had zero interest in appearing in it. She was a fucking A list Hollywood royalty. Give her a break. She was winning golden globes for more ambitious projects and left the TV series to Mr husband who found a delicious way to give it back to her = ' let her in the water, it will teach her a lesson '. Wether you like her or not, she was the biggest film star of her generation, garnered 3 academy award nominations before hitting 25 years of age and gave legendary performances in classic films, including ' splendor in the grass ' in which she's extraordinary. Enough hate thank you. If grating ugly sexless pathetic miss MGM druggie-loonie is your thing, fine, but leave Natalie alone.

I never have understood how they didn't fucking make Kate Jackson honor her contract. She was being a total bitch on the show, and they let her go for Shelly Hack? I wished they fucking made her to "guest appearances" like they pressured Farrah to do. Kate was writing a book, but it keeps getting pushed back, I wonder if she will ever finish it. I'd love to hear her views about working on "Charlies Angels" I have a feeling she is mentally ill, Jaclyn and Cheryl have embraced the show, but Kate is basically a fucking recluse. Bitter old closeted lesbian

Kate also had a good run on Scarecrow and Mrs King but she really wanted to be a serious actress

Did Cheryl and Jaclyn get along with Shelly and Tanya? During the Farrah Fawcett guest appearances in season 4, everyone seems annoyed that Tiffany is there.

[quote]R69 Did Cheryl and Jaclyn get along with Shelly and Tanya? During the Farrah Fawcett guest appearances in season 4, everyone seems annoyed that Tiffany is there.

Nolan Miller says in the r57 video that pretty quickly after her arrival, no one could stand Hack, personally, and they all wanted her GONE.

Cheryl had nice things to say about Shelley. And she and Tanya became golfing buddies several years ago.

Jaclyn, on my other hand, doesn’t remember either of them.

[quote]Jaclyn Smith. She was so pretty and a decent enough actress for what the show was.

Smith was on the sitcom Becker and she was hysterical as Beckers crazy ex-girlfriend. She has a flair for comedy.

Smith and Ladd are very good friends. Smith said, she loved Ladd because after she came on the show, Ladd always had to wear the string bikinis and she could wear fuller bathing suits

Y'all can have the Angels. I'll take one of Toni's Boys.

Shelley Hack! She was even mentioned on an episode of the Sopranos

They should’ve Trans pioneer Margo and added her to the Angel roster.

Kelly might have had to work through some issues, though.

^ They should’ve rehabilitated Margo ^

I guess I'm just fated to be one of those people who misunderstands things -- I watched all of the seasons, patiently waiting, but it never happened.

No they should have given Kelly and the other two brain transplants for not realizing Margo was trans.Margo had a cheap wig, scarf to hide the Adam’s apple, thick 5 o’clock shadow and bad transatlantic accent and nobody notices any of this until the wig reveal at the end. She’s like a bad female impersonator from a cruise ship or something

[quote]I never have understood how they didn't fucking make Kate Jackson honor her contract. She was being a total bitch on the show, and they let her go for Shelly Hack? I wished they fucking made her to "guest appearances" like they pressured Farrah to do.

That's an interesting question about why didn't the producers force Kate to do guest appearances like Farrah, but I would guess since she was fired from the show (as opposed to Farrah, who quit), that would be the reason. And I don't think they ever said that she was "let go for Shelley Hack," they just fired her and then hired someone else to take her place (and that someone else just happened to be Shelley Hack).

Wasn’t the issue with Kate that she became disruptive on set after Spelling told her she couldn’t do Kramer vs Kramer?

I believe she got angry during the filming of Marathon Angels (which admittedly is a very badly written episode), had a tantrum and started screaming “THIS IS SHIT! SHIT! SHIT” on set, and that was the last straw?

Cheryl Ladd was/is a crazed, hard-core right winger

Cheryl came in and saved that fucking show - She was set up to fail and the public loved her. You gotta give her the credit, she really was able to overcome the odds and save "Charlies Angels" from the curse that Shelly brought when she was hired to replace Kate

Fake Republican bitch. Kate sniffed her out day one.

It only goes to show how easily they can infiltrate.

I am throwing away my Kris Munroe lunchbox.

I think Kate was under the impression that because she looked like a “serious actress” (mousy, flat chested), that she could somehow convince the public that she was a serious actress.

But really, even Cheryl Ladd was a better actress than Kate Jackson.

Kate was a solid actress; had she done Kramer, she'd have had a totally different career.

I can't see that Kate respected Farrah as an actress though; she was never believable in any undercover bit with the show. She couldn't act until the Burning Bed, which was foolproof material.

It's too bad that people are given these HUGE opportunities and then become assholes.

Speaking of acting, Jaclyn Smith seemed like she was on tranquilizers the whole time.

Not that it mattered - -

[quote]Kate was a solid actress; had she done Kramer, she'd have had a totally different career.

I agree.

[quote]It's too bad that people are given these HUGE opportunities and then become assholes.

So true.

I just think it's so obvious Jaclyn was over it by the time Shelley came along. Those last two seasons were probably torturous for her just waiting for the clock to run out and they would be canceled.

And Good Lord, I just realized I was 16 the summer that the Angels were canceled. My, how time flies!

[quote]r87 It's too bad that people are given these HUGE opportunities and then become assholes.

Most of the angels had been kicking around in Hollywood (or the east coast modeling industry) for a decade before they got that show.

The personality is fully formed by then, as are the grievances.

R87 I disagree — you needed superb actors to play off each other to elevate that material, and Hoffman without an equally good partner to play off of...the movie would have been inferior, true TV of the week kind of stuff (which it’s oft accused of anyway).

Textbook example of where the actors made the movie what it is.

Margo en Francais

Shelley Hack was an untalented bitch.

She was supposed to be on Night Court when Ellen Foley left to pursue music.

But she came in, had no talent, and bitched at everyone so they told her to get out. They didn't bother to even use any of her episodes reshooting them with Markie Post.

R93, Kate gave a solid performance in the well-intentioned and dramatic Making Love.

That scene where she's in the living room on the edge of her seat waiting for Zach (Michael Ontkean) to tell her WHAT is the problem and he says he's gay and she's like...do you want veal for dinner?

She's a great actress.

Kelly is my favorite, because she's the one who had to fight crazed tranny Margo.

Kate Jackson’s boyish ass captivated me.

Too bad about Kate not being able to do Kramer vs. Kramer. I imagine she is still bitter about it. She was a smart cookie and new a good script. She probably saw herself winning an Oscar.

The only thing that lifted Kramer vs Kramer above a TV movie was the actors. Kate would have brought it down firmly in "Tonight on ABC Monday Night at the Movies" territory.

I doubt that R100. Meryl's role was rather small. It was mainly about Dustin and the kid.

[quote] I probably hate Tanya just because she signified the show on its last legs, and she kind of gave off a porny vibe.

I preferred that to the PTA mom vibe from Jaclyn in that last season.

Jaclyn’s outfits in season five are terrible. She’s wearing what looks like an ugly Christmas sweater when Margo tries to stab her.

Couple that with the poodle hair and...yikes.

Jaclyn's always made poor style choices on her own, and she bends toward either old lady, or her tacky K-Mart BS.

I watched an episode the other day. I never liked it back in the day, but there was nothing else on I was interested in. My God I had no idea the acting on that show was so bad. Every singe one of those broads and that little fat guy they worked with were laughably bad. I know our TV tastes were different back in those days, but I can't believe people watched that show and thought it was good entertainment.

[quote]Too bad about Kate not being able to do Kramer vs. Kramer. I imagine she is still bitter about it. She was a smart cookie and new a good script. She probably saw herself winning an Oscar.

I'm sure watching Meryl win the Oscar for that role did not go down well for Kate.

Hands down, Kate Jackson -Because she got to kiss Michael Ontkean, who kissed Harry Hamlin.

R107 😯

Farrah got to make out with Timothy Dalton on a required comeback episode Very sexy

[quote]r102 I preferred that to the PTA mom vibe from Jaclyn in that last season.

Personally, I find even season 5 Kelly Garrett an improvement over this pre-Charlie's Angels look - -

R110 yikes, that blue eye shadow is terrible. That photo looks like a bad joke photo, but unfortunately I think that was the look.

I think that's from an early stint on some other TV show. The makeup and hair people would just dip guest stars in whatever the current style was, because unknown actors had no established image of their own yet.

She looks more natural in this early modeling shot for Max Factor.

R113 yes she does.

Farah) I am too good for this show, I will be a super duper star

Kate) I'm too good for this show, I am a serious actress

Cheryl) I'm too good for this show, I'll be a singing super star

Shelley) I am going to show the world models can act

Tanya) I am going to show the world I'm more than cleavage

Then there's Jaclyn

Jacklyn) I'll just sit here nice and quiet in the background and continue to collect my paychecks. I may not be the most talented but I'm not stupid

R113 idk how anyone can think she wasn’t the prettiest — it’s not even close.

Have you guys bought your Jaclyn Smith wigs yet?

Jaclyn Smith wigs features beautiful hairstyles created by award-winning actress Jaclyn Smith and famed celebrity hairstylist José Eber.

Kristen Stewart was the most beautiful AND the best actress of them all.

R115, did you watch the Nolan Miller video?

Tanya Roberts never had any illusions about being more than cleavage.

Jaclyn Smith was definitely over the show by the 5th season, as was Cheryl Ladd. Both wanted to move on. Tonya Roberts has talked in past interviews about how when the cancellation notice came down, Smith and Ladd were elated, and poor Tonya was devastated. Interestingly, both Smith and Roberts had better careers post-CA than did Ladd.

Smith looks great in stills when she's in profile, but in a full-face still, you can really see her weird lower jaw thing.

[quote]r116 idk how anyone can think she wasn’t the prettiest — it’s not even close.

Jaclyn Smith's face is so symetrical that it's almost a bit boring. There is no mystery to it.

R122 you make a great point...

Kate Jackson had the easiest intro to acting ever: She played a ghost on "Dark Shadows" who didn't have a word of dialogue for months.

R122 if only I looked that boring...

Shelley Hack. I like the underdog.

When I was younger, I thought FF was the best-looking, then Cheryl Ladd. Then Tanya Roberts. But posters above are correct, T. Roberts did actually end up doing porn.

In retrospect, Jaclyn Smith is the best-looking. She had the same hairdo as Farrah except it was dark brown hair (no highlights) versus blonde hair with tons of highlights.

R19, Farrah Fawcett scared me as a kid, too!

R127, I never did porn! My movies were exciting erotic thrillers! Night Eyes, Inner Sanctum, Deep Down... critics just never appreciated my work!

Love this photo of Jaclyn Smith!

And this gorgeous photo of Farrah Fawcett!

Jaclyn is also a Trump supporter.

R131 that is Heather Locklear

I know you guys are disappointed that there is no "Margo" wig at r117. However, there is a "Kris" wig!

R132 how do you know?

Kate was great on CA but so awful in Scarecrow And Mrs. King.

The Margo wig should come with a complementary switchblade.

R133, it’s Farrah Fawcett 2.0

R138 gotcha 😉 I get it.

It’s a fun watch, but it’s of its era. I noticed it’s on at 9am on Cozi TV (here in my area). If I suspend time and belief, I can enjoy still, but it is really dated.

R140 I agree. Although, I still watch it. Charlie’s Angels play every week night at 5:00 and I DVR the shows.

[quote]Kate was great on CA but so awful in Scarecrow And Mrs. King.

Scarecrow and Mrs. King was one of the most godawful shows in the history of television. Fucking hated it and with any justice would've been canceled five minutes into the premier episode.

R142 Not as much as Bruce B hated it.

As he had to Costar with the an increasingly angry and unhinged Kate!

Farrah was just gorgeous, she really was. There was something about her that just captured the publics imagination. People were crazy about her. I think Jaclyn was a classic beauty - put her in any time period and she would be stunning.

I always thought the idea of Kate being the great actress was such a joke. She would play these "characters" and be so over the top and always with a cheesy accent. She was lovely in her "Dark Shadows" days.

Ladd did have a tough job of coming in as a replacement - she did fit in nicely though. Sorry to hear she's a Right Wing Rotter. Shame that.

Jaclyn is also a right winger - no one talks about that.

Jaclyn votes for whoever I tell her to.

Jackie and Cheryl voted for Trump.

Shelley voted for Hilary.

Tanya voted for ice cream 🍦!

Kate would have voted for Hilary but couldn’t make it make it pass the stacks of newspapers blocking her doorway.

Cheryl seems like she would have voted for Trump because she actually likes him. Jaclyn seems like she votes Republican no matter what, but she doesn’t like Trump’s language, tone and boorish ways, finds unseemly. Not that I know either one of them, I’m just guessing of course.

Tanya Roberts is an animal lover and a big time Democrat. So, show Julie Rogers some love. .

Shut up and suck my pussy!

R148 Julie May be an animal lover, etc. but I hated her on Charlie’s Angels.

Who cares who someone votes for? It's a free country, support who ever you want. God, some of you people must lead lonely, bitter lives.

When was the last time we saw Kate? Is she a recluse shut in?

Having worked with Kate in the past, I'm not surprised if she is tucked away somewhere dealing with health issues. Twenty odd years ago she was already exhibiting signs of dementia or mental imbalance.

Kate was all about the "craft of acting" and after "Charlies Angels" ends up on "Scarecrow and Mrs King?" Puleaze I'd love to read her delayed book someday.

And here’s Farrah in her best role ever!

Kate was nominated for a Primetime Emmy and Golden Globe for Lead Actress in a Drama Series. When you think about achieving that when the show in question is CA, you have to hand it to her.

What are the "reasons well known to her" re: Season 4 Cheryl?

and shelley hack in scorsese King of Comedy / so perfect / lucky shelley has not appeared in tons of dreck in the later years

Shelley Hack in Joe Brooks 1978 If Ever I See You Again /

R156 the drama category back then was very thin.

And even in the comedy category which was more competitive, Bonnie Franklin and Charlotte Rae were once nominated so, you know ...

R159, Kate lost to Lindsay Wagner, for her stellar performance in The Bionic Woman. The other nominees were Miss Angie Dickinson, Michael Learned, and Sada Thompson.

None of those women would be nominated today with the exception of Sada.

The fact that we're still talking about them almost 50 years later says it all.

Jaclyn Smith's hustle wouldn't let Lisa Rinna in the same zip code. She did it first, and did it best. K-Mart or Slay-Mart.

All of the originals showed up, appreciative, after Spelling died. And Kate and Jaclyn were there at the end for Farrah. 'Nuff said.

And Kate got to marry and fuck Andrew Stevens, so the real winner has been right in front of us all along.

Miss Shelley Hack in "Single Bars and Singler Women".

[quote]Kate lost to Lindsay Wagner, for her stellar performance in The Bionic Woman. The other nominees were Miss Angie Dickinson, Michael Learned, and Sada Thompson.

Lindsay Wagner is a good actress and I had no problem with her winning the Emmy for "Bionic Woman." I thought it was an interesting choice by the votes. But of course, because it was an adventure series and not a heavy drama, people were appalled by her victory (Tom O'Neill of Goldderby called it the "worst Emmy win ever," an over-the-top declaration I find personally ridiculous.) Also, as mentioned previously, it was a different time then -- Stefanie Powers nominated for best actress in a drama for "Hart to Hart," something that most likely would not happen today.

* interesting choice by the voters

* Stefanie Powers was nominated

Lindsay Wagner is a good actor and was interesting in her role of Jamie Sommers.

Yeah she did about as much as she could with Jamie Sommers. Even though she looked like she could lift a bag of flour.

Her character and show was much more interesting than the six million dollar man

By the way, just for the record, Kate was not the only acting nominee from the show -- David Doyle was nominated for supporting actor in a drama series. He did not win.

R169 I agree.

I believe, the episode submited for Lindsay's win was the one where she played her evil double Lisa Galloway.

She was very good in that dual role.

Why Ladd didn't win for playing Princess Grace I'll never know!

How about Jaclyn as Jackie On Assistance?

Just found this - "The Smart One" by Kate Jackson Publication cancelled Any idea why this long delayed book was cancelled? It would have been a fun read, I have a feeling that Kate is in bad shape and she had to return the money. Is she ill? You never hear a thing, tons of current stuff on Kate and Cheryl. Whats up?

R122, points taken on Smith, yet those opening shots of her in CA are gorgeous and that pic of her turning her head around where you only see half of that beautiful face (after she takes down an attacker) is STUNNING .

R176 I agree. She was/is beautiful.

I fucking want a book from one of the damn angels to set the record straight... Smith would be great to hear from if she didn't hold back. She seems pretty level headed, so she must know that Kate is a fucking nut!

Shelley Hack, because I loved her Northeastern/Hepburn style

R179 I just saw Shelley on The Love Boat she played a very intelligent woman. She was great.

I liked (Kelly Garrett) Jaclyn Smith and

(Sabrina Duncan) Kate Jackson and

(Kris Munroe) Cheryl Ladd and

Lucy Liu

I stopped watching when Shelley Hack joined.

Was Demi Moore an angel?

Tiffany Welles played by Shelley Hack

Shelley Hack was the Jenillee Harrison of CA.

I knew it was over when they had to redo the opening dialogue of the credits;

"Once upon a time, there were three little girls...two went to the police academy...the other from Boston...wait ...no that was Tiffany...the other went to a top school for models...we don't know where she was from...but Kelly and Kris were from Los Angeles...wait...Kris was from San Francisco....and they each had hazardous...wait no, modeling isn't hazardous, they each reaped the rewards of...the rewards of something...I took them away from all that...I'M the voice of Blake Carrington because George Peppard wasn't working out...."

I love Jaclyn Smith for her demented Twitter feed alone

My first cat was a shelter cat . I named her Bootsie Gum Drops. 10 minutes ago My first cat was a shelter cat. I named her 'Bootsie Gum Drops'. 31 Mar My first pet was a shelter can named Bootsie Gumdrop and was gorgeous. 7 Jan My first pet was a shelter cat named Bootsie Gumdrop. 21 Dec My first cat was Bootsie Gumdrops. But now my husband is allergic to cats. 3 Dec

We know, R185.

R186 great link!

Tiffany Welles played by Shelley Hack. The epitome of East Coast sophistication.

LOL R26 C. Ladd has been to several Repub conventions over the last 4 decades so it's not some crazy rumor.

I'm sure if you watch CNN or a major network covering them you will see a quick flash to her in the audience.

I've seen her at least twice at them but I've stopped watching them after 2004.

I meant to add that you could probably see her

on some old repub convention footage on YT.

Check there if you want to see her at one.

From 1988 when Bush 1 was up against Dukakis =

(Listed repubs were Beach Boys, Norris, Swartzenegger, Kaplan, Farr, Baio, Williams, Zimbalist father & daughter, Ladd, Lynn, Whelan, Welchel, etc.)

There was a DLer about 3 years ago who kept insisting he had the inside scoop that Cheryl Ladd was at death’s door.

R191 I’m more offended that Ladd went with Babs to visit Shriner’s Hospital.

R193 Can you imagine Babs as one of Charlie's Angels?

I was also surprised they said Baio was a “recent convert.” So he voted for Mondale?

R195 Sounds like it.

I know Norris, Farr, Williams, Welchel, Lynn, Ladd & the Zimbalists all have religious right affiliation.

Whelan from the Love Boat had religious right winger Murray as a tv dad & Gopher as a far right wing co star so they could've brought her into the fold during the show.

Baio, Kaplan & Swartzenegger might all have been repubs at the time for only the tax cut reasons. Baio seems anti-gay now but did a pro gay film before 1988.

I think 1 or 2 of the Beach Boys might be religious righties but not the Wilson Phillips dad.

R196 wow that’s a lot of 70s sitcom stars right there. Suzanne Somers, too.

Any others?

Judging by Jill Whelan‘s Twitter account, she has since come to her senses.

Rerun on WH.

Tall guy on "Martin"

Kim Fields on TFOL.

Cliff on Cheers

Sophia on GG.

Frasier on Cheers/Frasier.

Gloria on AITF.

Valerie Harper from Hogan Family (LOL)

Alaina R. Hall on 227

D. Carter on DW

Delta Burke on DW

Gerald M. on Major Dad.

Iola from MF

Thelma from MF & Carol Burnett Show

Tim Conway from Carol B. SHow. M With Children

Harry from N.Court seemed like a religious rightie (he did a religious right film b4 he died).

Justine Bateman was a born again Christian in the late 90s but seems pretty liberal on Twitter today.

Her Family Ties dad has been on the 700 Club a couple times.

Michael J. Fox was a repub in the 870s/90s but seems to have drifted left over the stem cells issue.

Most of the Beverly Hillbillies (Jed, Ellie May & Max) have done religious right shows in the past but Max does gambling stuff so I don't know where he is politically today.

Andrea Martin from that Canadian sketch show.

Sherri Sheppard from S. Susan & others.

Tim Reid from WKRP & his actress wife as well.

Ugly JJ from GT.

R199 Michael Gross? Isn’t he Jewish??

All the GGs were staunch liberal Dems so I’m not sure where the Estelle thing comes from. I’m pretty sure Rhoda was too and that MJF always was.

The rest seem right and/or plausible. Jaclyn Smith as well, I think.

The Val Harper thing is incorrect. She was always a Democrat, actually a ‘lefty’. Read chapter 8 of “I, Rhoda”

If true, Michael Gross and Andrea Martin are highly disappointing.

Michael Gross - 1989 interview:

Those who equate Gross with his sitcom counterpart might have been surprised to see the actor and his wife appear four years ago on 'The 700 Club,' Pat Robertson`s show on the Christian Broadcasting Network. They talked about maintaining good Christian values as a Hollywood couple.

'Elza was a born-again Christian,' Gross said. 'Although I had not had that particular religious experience, I shared a great many of those values, coming as I did from the Midwest.

'Whenever somebody mentions I was on that show, I think they immediately tend to categorize people: `Oh, if you were on that Christian show, I know what kind of person you are,` ' Gross added. 'I happen to agree with the basic religious viewpoint of Pat Robertson, but politically he and I don`t see eye to eye at all. I guess I call myself a centrist or a little bit left of center.'

Which, Gross acknowledges, still puts him to the right of Steven Keaton.

'I didn`t feel that the parents were in charge of that family as much as I would have liked them to be,' he said. 'I thought the kids got away with an awful lot, to be quite honest. I wanted Steven to be tougher.'

R203 awww that’s disappointing — I always liked him.

Why? He basically clarified that he is not a right leaning Republican.

R203 From that interview you posted, it sounds like MG received some fallout from going on that show. I actually saw him on the show in the 90s (after plenty of anti gay attacks against us & other groups). I'd expect him to say that in the '89 interview because Family Ties was coming to an end & he wanted to be a film star (Tremors anyone?). As his Hollywood chances of getting on another sit-com was growing dimmer, I think he threw caution to the wind & showed up again with the old bigot.

Justine Bateman was the other born again Christian on F. Ties. Gossip said that she tormented Michael J. Fox with anti-gay stuff back in the 80s when the show was being filmed. I recall that she did Inside Edition interview (or something like that in the late 90s maybe Extra or AH?) saying that she had become one. I wonder if Michael &/or his wife converted Justine?

R200 You've never heard of "Jews For Jesus"?

That interview was over 30 years ago. R205 They say plenty of people get more conservative as they get older. He's a senior white male rich guy who supports Israel. There's a good chance he voted for Trump but is "in the closet" about it today.

R202 Ol' Andrea even came on the show to celebrate Pat's birthday one time.

The first Christians didn't celebrate birthdays as they thought it was a form of idolatry/vanity prohibited in the Bible.

I guess Pat is a liberal on that issue.

R200 E. Getty was an out republican who supported the religious right's merger with Reagan & Bush at the time. She was the sit-com Joan Rivers where she would mention AIDS publically, do a fundraiser & then go donate $ to the repubs who were reluctant to give any public $ to the cause & vote them in office.

[quote]Justine Bateman was the other born again Christian on F. Ties. Gossip said that she tormented Michael J. Fox with anti-gay stuff back in the 80s when the show was being filmed.

Why? Did she think he was gay and was trying to convert him?

R200 M. J. Fox was a repub until the stem cell issue that affected his own health came about. He was asked by someone in the audience on the Phil Donahue show back in the day (early 90s) if he was a republican or just played one on tv. He reply was that he was indeed a republican.

Jackyn Smith's husband recently ran for public office as a republican & was against gay marriage. She stood by him & supported his platform. Bigot loving bitch.

Rhoda might be a left leaning religious right supporter but she still is one. She was one of the most frequent Hollywood supporters on the 700 Club in the 1990s. The right leaning celebs supported her over Melissa Gilbert but she still lost to half pint in 2001. Mary Tyler Moore also was a Bill O'Reilly Fox loving repub at the end of her life according to Ed Asner. Murray & his wife were also right wing religious nuts so I think Betty White & Ed might've been the only liberals left on the MTM show.

R208 The gossip was that M. J. Fox was bisexual & was dating a guy when this all went down. They would be in his trailer (also doing cocaine which gives Parkinson like symptoms in some users which is what MJF claims he has now) & Justine would say anti gay slurs outside the trailer windows (while they were being intimate) & stuff like that. She wasn't a born again Christian then (just a narrow minded bigot).

Enough about politics! I watch an episode of this crap fest when I come home from work every night as a palate cleanser-it’s stupid entertainment from a simpler time.

Season five is on Roku now. It’s so clear at this point that nobody involved in this show gave a fuck anymore. The clothes are dowdier and cheaper looking, the sets look tired, the plots have even bigger holes in them. There’s no joy in the show. The only person who seems happy to be there is Tanya Roberts, but that could be the cocaine.

Google shows nothing about Andrea Martin ever knowing Pat Robertson or being on 700 Club.

Probably someone who looked like Andrea Martin.

My older sister (still in high school at the time) volunteered for Dukakis and she got to work on and attend some big gala. I saw the names of the stars who were attending — they were all billed on the invitation — and while I don’t remember most of them I do remember a few: Penny Marshall, Rob Lowe, Michael J Fox, Cicely Tyson, and Mary Tyler Moore (obviously before she crossed over to the other side).

So take that for what it’s worth .

I must be in the minority. I expect people who act on shows to entertain me. Other than that, I am not interested i them one way or the other

R211 I hate to be the one to tell you but everything isn't found on Google. I'm guessing to have the career she had in the past 10-15 years she had some things scrubbed from the internet notably her pat RObertson ties. Old footage of the 700 Club from the 80s & 90s are also hard to find.

R212 It's the SCTV star who appeared on The 700 Club because I could never watch her on the show (or anything again) after seeing her kiss his nasty ass (unlike R214).

Other repub sit com stars are Kirstie Alley (who is still kissing Trump's butt) & her dead VC co-star Ron Silver who switched parties after 9/11 crediting "My Pet Goat" reader Bush Jr. as the best candidate to protect Americans from terrorism (lol).

A quick check at the 700 Club site doesn't include many stars who appeared on the show over the years. Anti gay Roland Martin, Stevie Wonder, Alveda King, Emilio Estevez & Martin Sheen are other celebs giving interviews.

I see a 22 episode Christian soap opera called "Hilton Head Island" with Antonio Sabato Jr., Donna Mills & Wink Martindale was being produced on 8-9-17. Has anyone seen it? Maybe Ladd & Smith will appear in it.

Cheryl Ladd

Why do you Queens have to derail my thread with your bullshit?

RIP Farrah, but she acted all confused and barely coherent when she, Kate and Jaclyn came out at the 2006 Daytime Emmys to honor Aaron Spelling.

She could barely string two words together (compared to Kate's speech), and frankly, as some people tend to do, made it more about herself than Aaron.

She was only on Charlie's Angels for a year and they didn't even ask her back for her final two (of six) guest spots.

No one would have noticed if it'd been Cheryl, Kate, and Jaclyn who did the tribute; Cheryl did four seasons, Kate three, and Jaclyn five.

okay, I just watched it she wasn't THAT bad, but she wasn't good either; way too nervous; fidgety - she may have been ill, I hope not.

R218 Jill Monroe showed up and performed at Emmy caliber in ALL 6 guest spots!

Get your CA facts straight before you post.

Bitch

I agree with R219 about Farrah's appearance at the AS tribute. Also I don't think Kate would've done that if Cheryl was a part of it.

Maybe she could tolerate one repub (Smith) but two was probably one too many.

I think the original three was what folks wanted to see (or perhaps all 6 together for the first time but maybe too many egos plus Tanya's porn past as a big issue).

Ladd was always a band-aid on the show since the CA formula required "3 little girls" from the start (& as the black silhouette CA symbol suggested).

It was the PRIMETIME Emmys, r218.

R220 (and R218), I sit corrected!

Her six guest spots were:

- An Angel's Trail (1980) - The Prince and the Angel (1979) - Fallen Angel (1979) - Angel in a Box (1979) - Mother Angel (1978) - Angel Come Home (1978)

Looks like Kate Jackson is going to be at the Chiller Theatre autograph show in NJ in April along with Tanya.

I like them all first few years and have to say that Kris was my favorite, then Jill, Sabrina and Kelly. I look at it now and Kelly was nearly brain dead in the smarts department but she was beautiful. Tiffany was okay but Julie killed the serious. I couldn't watch anymore. Plus the fashion changed. I watch the dvds now and the 70s look was so awesome style wise. But when they got into the 80s clothes it's so dated and bad. Some of the 70s outfits could still be rocked today but not the 80s. Shoulder pads bad. What were people thinking. Women looking like a box is good?

Where are you hearing that, R224 -- it's not on the Chiller Theatre website and I can't find anything by googling it...

r226

Damn, I missed Edie McClurg in Burbank last month. I read she has Alzheimer's though. Is her caretaker dragging her out for confused photo ops?

Thanks, R227!

Now all Chiller needs to get is Shelly and we'd have all 3 drivers of the Pinto at one show.

Well then I'm going to Chiller.

I hope Tanya and Kate sit near each other.

Kate, Shelley and Tanya.

OMG I want to be in the warm embrace of two living Angels.

As to the OP, while rewatching the series recently, I was struck by Jaclyn's, uh, acting. She seemed mentally dull, but sweet. I never got the streetwise edge the character was meant to have. Farrah wasn't necessarily a great actress then, but she had brightness and sense of fun.

Honestly I lost interest quickly after Kate left. She's my favorite, and I don't think the other trios had chemistry.

I recently watched the pilot; great supporting cast with Bo Hopkins, Diana Muldar and Tommy Lee Jones.

Kelly sure had brains in the pilot. Kate was originally supposed to be Kelly hence Kelly's expanded role.

Kelly has to pull off being two steps ahead of the bad guys when she's really three steps ahead. That scene where she pulls up to the estate on the motorcycle and takes the helmet off revealing that gorgeous face and hair? I don't think there's ever been anyone more beautiful.

In the pilot, Kate plays (undercover) haughty Janet Lemare (sp?) who comes to a hotel and insists upon 'the fourth floor' at the hotel in a way that Dominique Deveraux could only dream of pulling off.

I never got Kate's loyalty to Farrah (assuming it was tied to her dismissiveness of Cheryl); Farrah NOT an actress (certainly not then) and not loyal to the show. What was Kate missing about her? but I guess she didn't have to respect her as an actress to like her as a friend.

The working for a boss you don't see thing might not play today; it got criticism back then.

It's too bad David Ogden Stiers (sp?) didn't want to sign on for the series, but it gave Bosley an expanded role.

Great thread!

Until I see proof of Andrea Martin appearing on that Christian TV show I won't believe a word of it.

You sound like one of those fragile celebrity worshippers that can't accept reality R236.

Why don't you write to AM or go on her Twitter account (if she has one) & ask her if she has appeared on the 700 Club & if so how many times?

Try writing to the 700 Club & ask them if she has appeared on the show over the years. Maybe they'll give you a couple of her appearances on tape/dvd/usb stick.

R236 / R237

Quit hijacking our wonderful thread with you boring BS.

Let our Angels Live!!

R224 I don't see Kate listed on the Chiller website for the April show. She must've cancelled or something.

Tanya is still listed, though.

David Ogden Stiers didn't want to sign on for the series because he didn't have a choice - ABC felt there were too many people inthe pilot and dropped him. He later got MASH, so good news for him. Kate hated the fact that Cheryl came in 2nd season and basically highjacked the fame. Honestly, Cheryl was a BIG deal, and the media was waiting for the NEW angel that replaced Farrah. Kate believed that when Farrah left, Jaclyn Smith and Kate would be the focus. The "new girl" would kinda take the back seat - It didn't work out that way. America was rooting for the underdog.

Charlie's Angels didn't become No. 1 in the ratings until Cheryl Ladd joined the show.

Kate could act -- the others, not so much. She HAD to have known that.

I can't understand why she was a big Farrah fan. Farrah's 'acting' on CA was horrible.

Maybe she was in love with her.

An example of Kate acting circles around the others. Go to 44:50

Tanya Roberts just did a Facebook live Q & A. The other angels make appearances now and then, Cheryl looks great. Why do we never see any pics of Kate Jackson? Like celebrity Paparazzi stuff? No guest appearances on any TV shows. Its kinda weird..

[quote]"Who did you despise?"

Oh, dear.

After 243 fucking responses, "Oh, fucking dear."

Tanya is starting to sound (and look to a lesser extent) old in that facebook chat video.

Kate has kept a low profile in the last decade. It's been a few years since she's been photographed by paparazzi.

There were reports of her acting weird on sets back in the 2000s, when she was doing episodic TV work. Some suspected she had a pill problem. Plus with her getting older, less employment opportunities come in.

Those first 4 Angels were HUGE - Its very strange to me that we still get media on Smith and Ladd, but nothing from Kate Jackson. NO commercial endorsements, No memoirs, nothing in like over 10 years. Not ONE celebrity magazine interview. Didn't she adopt a son or something? It just very odd how she just disappeared...

Kate was suppose to be at an autograph show here in New Jersey 2 weeks ago but obviously that was cancelled.

Farrah of course was my favorite. And I hated the other two bitches who just let her leave, which is how my 9-year old brain interpreted the whole Farrah kerfuffle.

R243 and R218 Kate Jackson has not been seen since Farrah's death.

I think it's drugs plus bipolar.

There is an old tabloid article you can Google, that talks about her having a meth problem and shows photos of he sad home - which is that of a tweaker hoarder.

The pictures are rough to look at, they remind me of the Whitney pictures when she was in full on addiction and they took pictures of her bathroom.

The KJ photos were allegedly taken by the maid.

i find it interesting how in the 1st season the 3 angels were so laid back and laid back in their 70's style clothing, just very casual and how every year after they dressed to the nines, very chic, very fashionable (almost too much) as the 80's started....

totally different vibe from the 1st season to the remaining seasons.....also it seemed in that 1st season they actually DID MORE investigating and used actual police academy training skills?..

R234, I agree with everything you wrote about the pilot. I remember that iconic scene with Jaclyn taking off the motorcycle helmet (go to the 40 second mark in the attached video). She was gorgeous! Jaclyn did have a lot more to do in the pilot compared to the other two. Kate was next as to screen time. Farrah was actually the weak link.

I always loved the pilot. It's fun to revisit. It's dated, but for someone who grew up during the 1970s when this show was a massive hit, I can see why it became the phenomenon it did. Also note in the pilot how the women use their beauty to dupe the men, who are always portrayed as not nearly as smart as the Angels. Many militant feminists missed this aspect of the show and focused on the Jiggle TV aspect of it. The women were rarely in bikinis as was always reported. However, the Angels in Chains episode was probably the worst when it came to that. Still, that episode is so campy and fun to watch these days. The subtle (or not so subtle?) the-guards-are-butch-lesbians aspect makes me chuckle today.

Jacklyn has more to do in the pilot because Kate changed her mind and wanted to play Sabrina

I would have made that fucking Kate Jackson honor her contract and stay the entire FIVE years. They sue Farrah and let Kate out when she started acting like a cunt

Fave - Shelley Hack. Least - Kate Jackson.

R253, Kate was fired. She became increasingly difficult to work with. She and the producers agreed it was time for her to go. She didn't make a big deal out of being fired because she didn't want to be there anymore. She thought it was her escape.

I remember when it happened, the official story was that Kate was leaving to pursue movies and other opportunities. The reality was they were fed up with all her bitching. Jaclyn and Cheryl were very professional and treated it like a job. Kate bitched constantly and was miserable to producers, writers, directors, even wardrobe and makeup. She was very cold to Cheryl, although I've always read that she and Jaclyn got along just fine. But even Jaclyn in interviews has hinted that Kate wasn't pleasant to others.

Long story, short, the powers-that-be didn't want Kate around anymore and she didn't care, so she got canned!

R255 They fired Kate Jackson to only replace her with fucking Shelly Hack? God, Kate must really have been an UBER bitch. Kate kept the show grounded in reality.

I don't know if you'd consider it sad or amusing that she hated being stuck on "Charlie's Angels" only to leave it and go on to do a shitty show like "Scarecrow & Mrs. King."

R257, rumor was that Kate was not as difficult on Scarecrow and Mrs. King set. She supposedly got along with her co-star Bruce Boxleitner. She unfortunately was diagnosed with breast cancer in the show's 4th and last season. The ratings were already dropping a bit, but because of her illness, she missed a few shows and/or had her scenes cut down because she was too sick to work full-time. It adversely affected the storylines, the ratings took a big drop, and the show was canceled.

I thought I read somewhere that she and Boxleitner loathed each other.

Kate had that BAD orange hair color in "Scarecrow and Mrs. King" - After that her career lost traction. Fame, ain't it a bitch - She NEVER embraced "Charlies Angels" until that fake ass tribute with the original 3. And I think she was the reason poor Cheryl Ladd wasn't allowed on stage. Kate is a miserable cunt - So glad that she got what she deserved.

Kate had been critical about the lightweight scripts from the beginning, and she would voice her displeasure to anyone on set. She even went off when a People magazine was on the set doing an article about Cheryl joining the show early during second two and they reported her on set behavior.

[[quote]]Kate: “Why do I have to say this garbage! This is shit, shit, shit!”

Cheryl responded back jokingly;

[[quote]]“Aw, come on, Kate, tell us how you really feel.”

I think that's one of the reasons they didn't get along, Cheryl didn't go along with all her complaints like Jaclyn and Farrah would. Cheryl knew what the show was, and went along with it. Some days Kate wouldn't even acknowledge Cheryl, let along even speak to her.

During season three, Kate's behavior became even worse. She was still very unhappy about the quality of the show and was very pissed that they wouldn't let her leave to do Kramer vs Kramer. Apparently, during one the later episodes that season, Marathon Angels, she threw a huge fit about how stupid episode was, which basically a very thin script that was excuse to show lots of women running around tight shirts and shorts. That might have been one of the final straws for Aaron Spelling.

Kate, you’re fired!

She and Jaclyn Smith were close friends. Godmothers to each others children.

Kate is now a shut-in and, a supposed hoarder. Please don't let Jaclyn's children see that!

Jaclyn's children are grown and have kids of their own, she's named an infantswear line after one of the grandkids I think. She's setting up her daughter to take over as she ages out of her Kmart (and other brands) business, and to youthen the face of it all. And, Jaclyn's children will never, ever want for money.

She wasn't wrong about Marathon Angels. That was just an hour of women jogging with Sabrina and Bosley following them in a car.

R266.. never mind, NONE OF THE WOMEN looked like they had ever jogged 10 feet much less a marathon! laugh!...

total jiggle episode with no redeeming value of any kind...

wasn't there also a ridiculous episode about old fashion cars where sabrina had to dress up like a keystone cop?!..

Looking at the show now the women constantly complaining about the quality of the scripts is very valid. It's not the premise of most of them, that's pretty solid. It's the writing. The chemistry saves the show, when the chemistry suffered, so did the show and then it was gone. Even for what it is, the writing could be much better: the women rarely do any actual detective work (though they do go through file cabinets), every episode is a chase caper where we see the perp at the top of show, their disguises when they go undercover are so terrible, the scripts have them meeting in broad daylight in front of everyone when they're pretending to be people who wouldn't know each other. And all those dog songs by Ed Lasko. It would've been nice to have some real whodunit episodes where there are multiple suspects, there are very few of those. Sometimes the Angels can drop a guy with a karate chop, other times a villain throws a briefcase at them and three of them drop to the ground. Ugh.

R268... all true..

Oh Jesus, R267, the old timey car episode was the worst ever in my opinion. It was dreadful.

It never was about the scripts - It was ALWAYS about the chemistry of the girls. It's really a miracle that Cheryl Ladd was able to replace a phenomenon like Farrah. I really don't understand why she was able to step right in and fill her shoes? Was Cheryl Ladd really THAT big a deal?

R271, Cheryl Ladd was smart. She initially played Chris Monroe as Jill's clumsy younger sister who is trying hard to learn the ropes, but she's not quite at the level Jill was. It made her sympathetic to the audience who rooted for her. The ratings for Charlie's Angels actually went up when Cheryl joined.

I agree with above posters about the chemistry between the actresses on screen being the key. Shelley Hack gets a lot of flack (that was intended) for the show's drop in the ratings. When you watch that season back, though, they split the Angels up too much and they had episodes where they were at odds, like the one where Patrick Duffy came between Jaclyn and Cheryl. The show worked best when the Angels worked as a team. After Kate Jackson left, that was missing.

I remember that in season 4 they started focusing on individual storylines for each Angel. Like when Kris went undercover in prison. Kelly and Tiffany had very small bit parts in the episode. The girls were overworked and the idea was just to focus on 1 girl and give the other two a break. It fucked up the chemistry of the dynamic of the series. Spelling got incredibly lucky with Cheryl - Hack & Roberts didn't bring anything to the show. The writers strike and the change in primetime killed the show. I would have loved to see Season 6 with Cheryl and 2new girls I would have been interesting to see a series with a completely new cast from its debut - hey, one question Why in the hell did they make Julie a "model" instead of a former cop? That was not even the concept of the show!

I think, too, by the time they got to season 4, it was more than obvious that Jaclyn was over it and just wanted out of there as soon as possible.

[quote]Why in the hell did they make Julie a "model" instead of a former cop? That was not even the concept of the show!

I think I understood this choice by the producers/writers. They wanted to establish Julie as an outlier of sorts -- i.e., she was not a formally-trained cop in any way, shape or form but instead a civilian who just had good instincts for crime-solving and therefore came on board to work with the Angels. It's kind of the same sort of way they explained the character of Mrs. Peel in "The Avengers," who was described as a "talented amateur" working with the super spy John Steed.

Charlie's Angels is one of the true classic tv shows of all time. It should have been on at least 10 years, not just 5.

[quote]I would have loved to see Season 6 with Cheryl and 2new girls I would have been interesting to see a series with a completely new cast from its debut

True, though my guess would be that it would've been just one new girl because Tanya likely would've been invited to return for a season six. (She had worked out in her debut a lot better than Shelley did.)

Tanya, Demi and a black Angel!

also julie at the time was ONLY suppose to be a fill in for tiffany when tiffany came back from being back east for awhile (though it was never mentioned WHAT EXACTLY was she doing back east, i.e. Boston).... and julie does eventually get her p.i. license so there you go...

Jaclyn was over doing the show, but she believed in fulfilling her contact obligations, even though she often phoned in it during seasons 4 and especially 5. As much as I like her and Kelly, she wasn't really suited as being the lead Angels.

There were rumors prior to them canceling the show that they were seriously considering bringing Farrah back for season 6 to replace Jaclyn. In late 1980/early 1981, Aaron Spelling was spotted having dinner with Farrah. If it was true, things obviously fell through.

I think Tanya would've returned with Cheryl and another new Angel had the show been renewed. Aaron Spelling and other higher ups liked her pretty well.

Sabrina

R268 I love the premise of the pilot.

I wish they would have gone with those kind of scripts instead of the kind you described

which were mind numbing.

But remember, I was still the prettiest!

I love how Kelly and Kris are wearing skimpy jogging outfits, then all of a sudden they pull out guns from god-knows-where.

R279 also by the time we got to the end of S5, though she looked amazing, Jaclyn was approaching the old side of what an Angel is supposed to be (as defined in the initial seasons). When they started in 1976, she was 31, playing mid-to-late 20s. When they finished in 1981, she was 36, playing early 30s with Cheryl who is six years younger and Tanya who is a full decade younger. Thus her frequent covered up high-collar, long sleeved, sweaters-in-LA and Hawaii costumes of S4 & 5. Once the series was over, she had children (in 1982 and 1985).

That's funny, R283. When I originally watched the show, I assumed Kate Jackson was the oldest, but she was the youngest. Jaclyn was the oldest, followed by Farrah and then Kate. Didn't the publicity machine lie about their ages when the show first started? I swear they said they were all mid-20s. Kate would have been the closest at 27-28 when the pilot was shot.

r273, I did notice that too, and I disliked it. They weren't doing their quirkly undercover roles as much and were more about their true personas. Lots the charm of the series for me (watching as an adult) as a kid it got boring. I moved on to other shows.

Why did Farrah leave so early on? I don't understand these actors who leave after the initial burst of success. The guy from NYPD Blue was another one.

Clooney got it right by staying until season five of ER and having already done a handful of movies on his breaks from the show. Same with Bruce Willis who stayed with Moonlighting all the way through.

Season 5 question - Why didi they include fucking old hag Patricia DeArbanville in a recurring role? I was always hoping they weren't going to add her to the show

[quote]Why did Farrah leave so early on? I don't understand these actors who leave after the initial burst of success.

IIRC, she wanted to pursue a film career.

r288 "Somebody killed Her Husband", "Sunburn" and "Saturn 3"? Fucking "Charlies Angels" was Shakespeare compared to this crap

Kate's hair does look orange in Scarecrow and Mrs. King. I don't remember ever watching this show. Not even one episode. She looks so awkward with Bruce Boxleitner in this photo.

I'm not sure what year this photo of Tanya Roberts was taken. Looks like she had surgery on her nose.

R289! i concur! i mean it wasn't like she was being offered the best roles WHILE she was on the show and prevented from doing them so she just had to quit charlie's angels!.. was her fame and success that great after just 1 year that she thought it would translate to movies, any movie?... she must have been getting AWFUL AWFUL career advice (jay bernstein?)..

Arron Tried to give Farrah a great movie deal and I believe was going to modify the "Charlies Angels" filming schedule where she would taketh lead in "Foul Play" He had some deal set up at the studio where she would film a movie every year on her hiatus. Farrah just didn't want to have anything to do with the series. You can see she had done TONS of publicity for the show while she was involved. It was all very strange.

Wasn't Lee Majors in Farrah's ear about being better than the show but also wanting her to stay home and play housewife? I always thought he was jealous of her rising star while his was in a decline and he, intentionally or not, sabotaged her career.

Farrah because she was a Texas girl!

I started watching this series when it was in syndication. I think they were in the middle of airing Season 2 or 3 (whenever Cheryl Tiegs was a regular). She was blonde and the other two had black hair, so I liked Cheryl. Yeah, I'm a basic bitch, so sue me. I kept watching all the way to the end. I though the Bond Girl was kind of dumb. Tanya Roberts, was it? She didn't do anything for me. Sorry Tanya, you are the weakest link, goodbye.

I also despise the remakes 2.0 and 3.0.

Yes r293, I remember Farrah was supposed to play the leading role in "Foul Play". She was dropped from "Foul Play" because of the Charlie's Angels lawsuit, and the part was eventually played by Goldie Hawn.

Farrah was also dropped from the movie "Coma". The part was eventually played by Genevieve Bujold.

Shelley Hack was homely. Blech.

R298, she ruined Charlie’s Angels with her lack of talent, but she was gorgeous.

Patricia D'Arbanville had a large head, and very little neck to speak of. It gave her a bobble-head like look.

This was a very informative interview with Kate on The View, way back in 2003

Farrah would have been okay in Foul Play but Goldie was really perfect. I can't even imagine Farrah in Coma. That's akin to Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist in whatever James Bond movie that was.

Farrah had a very interesting career trajectory. Charlie's Angels made her an instant star. Her attempts to be a movie star post Charlie's Angels in the late 70s was a huge flop. But she did make rare, successful Hollywood comeback in the 80s with acclaimed roles in The Burning Bed, Extremities (the play and film) and Small Sacrifices. She was finally taken seriously as an actress and had her pick of roles for a little while (albeit in TV movies). Then by the late 90s, her messy personal life derailed her career again.

You would have never thought her personal life would get as messy as it did. I really think she had a drug problem.

Hey, just wondering if it was a BIG deal when Farrah started making her 6 court required guest appearances on Charlies Angels? Did the ratings hit an all time high? I wonder if she really hated going back to film those..

I think the first time she returned it was an event, especially to see how she would interact with Ladd. But that episode turned out to be a snoozefest and Jill didn’t have the same spark as Season 1.

The only episode I sorta liked of the six episodes was ironically the one that kept Fawcett and Ladd apart. Kris is kidnapped and the three original Angels team up to locate her.

Not so much R305, the first few were much hyped, but the last ones they barely publicized and only did them out of obligation. Her career had completely tanked. When she did the movie "Somebody Killed My Husband" it was reviewed as "Somebody Killed Her Career."

it seemed that farrah went "all serious" for her 6 return episodes, also her famous locks were changed so that didn't help either.. and then of course the stupid episodes themselves... first off farrah left the agency to become a female professional race car driver? LMAO!

I liked cousin Geri, although she only appeared on a handful of episodes she was hilarious when she chased after criminals, although she sadly never caught them no matter how many times she got back on her feet.

r308 I actually think the same thing. It was like Farrah lost her spark when she returned. There are numerous pictures of the 4 Angels all taken for publicity and there is not ONE picture where at least 1 of the 4 woman look less than awkward. I would love to hear honest remarks from the cast. Ladd happy that Farrahs career move bombed, Kate jealous that Farrah got to film motion pictures, Jackie just happy to have a job and fulfill her contract. Ladd replaced a TV Icon and then to have great success and suddenly have to FILM with Farrah must have been uncomfortable

Farrah was not happy about having to return for the 6 guest spots for Seasons 3 and 4. She didn't really have much of a choice though.

Cheryl said Farrah wasn't happy during those episodes and wasn't particularly friendly towards her. It must've stung some for Farrah that was not only replaced, but successfully replaced.

I think there was some initial tension between Farrah from Kate and Jaclyn as well. Everyone was worried how the show would fare after she bailed. They both got over it and became friends again.

Yeah, Farrah was clearly unhappy about having to do those guest episodes and it came through in her performance. Each one played more like a hostage video than an episode of "Charlie's Angels."

For my money probably the most enjoyable of the 6 was the one with Timothy Dalton as a cat burglar with whom Jill was supposedly in love. They had a pretty good karate fight on a rooftop at the end.

Kate

Could you IMAGINE being poor Shelly Hack and just not asked back - and then STILL required to finish filming for season 4? They did really push her Career, she got the Iron on Transfer, the blue raincoat poster - She just never caught on..

r314 They fired Shelly Hack before the 4th season was done filming - Pretty damn HARSH. You'd think that Cheryl & Smith would have had some pull with Spelling? I want the true fucking story, were the other girls in on it?

I think what someone said upthread made a lot of sense -- with Kris, there was a personal connection (she was Jill's younger sister), so it was easier for the audience to like her and root for her (plus Ladd was just a perfect fit for the show). Perhaps they should have gone a similar route with Tiffany -- maybe she should've been Sabrina's best friend from the police academy who was taking over after Sabrina recommended her to Charlie? Just a thought.

Spelling would have a hit show and then kill it with cast changes and bad replacements. This is what happened to Dynasty - It was like they did not nurture the series after they became successful

By Season 4, the scripts had grown stale and repetitive. They also switched to focusing on one Angel per episode, which means that instead of the Angels' camaraderie, we got a series of tepid, woman-in-danger movies of the week. Worst of all, perhaps, was their attempt to tackle serious subjects. They were over their heads and it showed. Although Shelley Hack may have had issues making it work, I think it's unfortunate that the producers seemed to blame her for everything and did not try to fix the quality of the episodes, which showed itself in much-worse Season 5.

r318 The scripts were bad in Season 4, Same thing with Dynasty, remember the alien kidnapping Fallon? Why didn't Spelling take the time to really invest time and some fucking effort into these successful shows? I always wonder, don't the stars have any pull? Did the girls want Shelly fucking Hack? Wasn't Kate a big star and have some voice on the show? I honestly don't get it..

Can we talk about how BAD season 5 was? Like, just bad television. Tanya Roberts had played a cop on an episode of Vegas. Why didn't they make the connection and have her be THAT same cop who ends up working for Charlie? Dan Tanna could have done a guest star like he did in the episode "Angels in Vegas" It's like no one at Spelling Productions had a fucking brain. Better than "graduating from a top school for models" WTF was that all about?

I think just about everyone gave up after ratings dropped so much over the course of Season 4. Something like 60% of the viewing audience quit watching by the end of Season 4. Few shows rebound after that much of a ratings decline. The press and even Aaron Spelling noted before Season 5 started production that it would likely be the last. They did need one more Season to break the 100 episode mark, to ensure good syndication deals.

[quote]Can we talk about how BAD season 5 was?

While you may have a point, season five gave us the classic episode "Angel on the Line" with DL fave Margo so for that alone it gets a pass.

I prefer Season 5 to Season 4 because it at least had the Angels actually working together instead of individual solo episodes. Though “Angel Hunt” from S4 was one of my favorites.

I FORGET what was the excuse why sabrina left the agency? was it suppose to be temporary like TIffany staying back East for a bit....

She got married and knocked up.

r322, I agree about the Margo episode.

It's interesting how they made Margo the deranged tranny wear a Farrah wig. I think the producers were trying to throw shade at Farrah.

Margo episode was at least campy and fun - The whole season 4 was a bore. Shelly Hack should have QUIT before they fired her. Hey, question -When you have a 5 year contract on a hit show, it only works one way? Like You have a 5 year contract but Spelling can fire you? But if your Farrah with a 5 year contract, you can't quit? Am I missing something?

I think at least for the first season of the contracts, had an option where they show runners could either fire them or pick up the option to bring them back for another Season. That's what Tanya said she was doing the newspaper press rounds around the time Season 5 premiered. I'd assume Shelley probably had the same type of contract.

Shelley's firing was rather cold. They were filming on Valentines Day, and Jaclyn, Cheryl and David Doyle all got Valentines inviting them to return for another Season. Shelley didn't. She wasn't told she was fired that day, though. She did find out the next day (although, she had to have a clue something was up from what happened the day before) when a reporter called her home phone asking for comments for being fired from the show.

I mean, could you imagine? They didn't have the decency to call Shelly in to let her go? She finds out from a reporter asking for a comment? Could you imagine your co-workers Cheryl, Jaclyn, and David not being supportive? Everyman for themselves, huh? No wonder Tori is such a fucking nut

R329 And then the former angels all come together without Cheryl Ladd for a tribute to Spelling. This is after Farrah quits and Kate gets fired. What a damn mess. Two-faced business watching Kate speak at his tribute and Aaron clapping like a trained seal. I don't understand the business.

Jaclyn Smith is Switzerland

R331 Remember, we now know Switzerland was anything but neutral in WW II and much more a collaborated where money and art were concerned.

^ On that note Jaclyn completely fucked me over by siding with that cunt Cheryl. She’s dead to me.

^ signed Kate!

Shelley got a bad deal in some ways, that some of the writer's scripts for S4 were due before she was cast, so they had no idea who they were writing for or what the character would end up being. The scripts where they play to her strengths later in the season, she's fine or even better than that. Then there are episodes where she's just not good, or she has no material in which to be good.

She wasn't set up for success, and her failure was compounded by her being not nice to people on set (whether out of insecurity or who knows what). Her hair and makeup people got back at her with how she looked onscreen--never before or since has Shelley Hack been presented so unattractively. She was a supermodel in the 70s (for cryin' out loud), an expert clotheshorse, so one can only assume it was done on purpose. Nonetheless, ABC really tried with her: Cutter to Houston and Jack and Mike both followed her CA stint.

Hack herself was born in Connecticut and graduated from Smith, and has since had a remarkable life outside of acting. She has an MBA now, for real.

Both Tiffany and Julie make sense as post-Sabrina directions for the show, on paper: Tiffany, still the smart middle angel, but this time super-educated and upscale instead of street-smart, fast talking, and shrewd like Sabrina. Then Julie Rogers for S5 is the opposite of Tiffany, downmarket and rough around the edges in a way Sabrina never was, and with a (forgive me) porno quality about her that would let the show truly go low-down in a way that aging Jaclyn and then toddler-mom Cheryl likely didn't want to do. More street than Sabrina, and more sex and skin than Sabrina. For a show that was getting on, it makes sense.

I do hate the "top school for models" though. What would've been so bad about "one in Los Angeles, one in San Francisco, and one in... New York/Chicago/Detroit" something like that?

Not be be THAT DLer, but why were there no angels of color? Mod Squad had a woman and POC and was earlier than Charlie? And I guess looking at the movies now, why hasn’t there been a trans Angel? Does Laverne do comedy?

There were some black women in contention for some of the replacement Angels. Shari Belafonte and Jayne Kennedy were two of the better known ones who went far in contention for roles. Jayne was supposedly nixed for being too tall.

Susie Coelho, was in contention for the Julie Rogers role. She's of indian (as in india) decent. Some even reported she got the part, initially.

Spelling got REALLY lucky with Cheryl Ladd - I think he he wasn't "hands on" when then started replacing the Angels. Didn't they pass on Michelle Pfeiffer when they were hiring Shelly Hack? I mean, how cool would it have been to have a major actress like Pfeiffer acting with Ladd and Smith?

[quote]R329 could you imagine? They didn't have the decency to call Shelly in to let her go? She finds out from a reporter asking for a comment?

Costume designer Nolan Miller said Hack turned into “the bitch of the century” after 2 weeks on the job. EVERYONE on the show, according to him, wanted her canned.

So apparently they just skipped the niceties.

NEXT!

[quote]R330 And then the former angels all come together without Cheryl Ladd for a tribute to Spelling

It’s strange Kate + Jaclyn picked such wretchedly boring dresses. Farrah’s is a bit better, though it’s way too tight, and not a very interesting design.

Say what you will but Tanya Roberts was, in essence, an incredibly beautiful woman.

It's funny that Nolan Miller was one that pushed Aaron Spelling to hire Hack. He loved that she wore clothes well and he could use nice clothes for her. The whole Charlie Girl perfume thing sort of sealed the deal because that could get additional publicity.

Pfeiffer would've been a better fit for the show. But obviously not getting hired was ultimately the best thing for her. She most likely wouldn't have had the career she had if she was on Charlie's Angels.

R341 Filters before filters, lol.

[quote] Pfeiffer would've been a better fit for the show.

Let’s face it, Michelle was more “graduated from a school for top models” than Ivy League intellectual.

They were expecting Farrah back, so all of Cheryl's scenes in the first episode are by herself so Farrah could be edited in. She was hired as her little sister and they claimed there would be four Angels but likely they would have simply written Cheryl out if Farrah came back. But Cheryl really was the girl among women. There was belief that the role would go to Kim Basinger who was on the famous Angels in Chains episode and the tag had her working at the agency, She was also on a TV show called Dog and Cat that had just been cancelled but she told Spelling she was not going to play Fawcett's little sister. Hack was just a terrible choice. There was a lot of publicity that the role had gone to Barbara Bach. She was even on The Tonight Show but revealed she flunked her audition. Persis Khabhata from the Star Trek movie was also considered as was Susie Coelho. Any of them would have been better because Hack very clearly resembled Ladd and there was very little visual contrast. Barbara Carrera was offered the role but turned it down. Perhaps the most interesting candidate was Claudia Jennings, a Playboy Playmate of the Year. She reportedly gave a wonderful audition but Spelling didn't want to hire a former nude model.

The powerful origin story from the people who were there!

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Jaclyn Smith was on the Locher Room and she was asked to describe her co-stars off-camera

Kate Jackson - Cerebral, complex, intense

Farrah Fawcett - 8x10 glossy - All American, sweet quality, good girlfriend

Cheryl Ladd - Warm, approachable, fun & funny

Shelley Hack - East coast preppy, dignified, soft spoken, refined

Tanya Roberts - Sensual, unique, sensuality that radiated on screen

I wonder why Jaclyn never stood up for Shelly? I mean, Jaclyn, David Doyle, and Cheryl had some clout and could have came to Shelly's defense when she was on the chopping block. Don't the stars of these shows have some degree of power? I remember on "Happy Days" Henry Winkler hated Roz Kelly, and suddenly no more "Pinky Tuscadaro"

Shelly Hack and her east coast Boston sophisticated very late 70s style.

David Doyle

Who cancelled the show - ABC or Spelling? I wanted to see Cheryl, Tanya, and a NEW age. Maybe bring Shelly back...

ABC, R352. The ratings had been in freefall since the departure of Kate Jackson and the introduction of Shelley Hack. Getting rid of Shelley and adding Tanya Roberts didn't help, so they pulled the plug.

No way we are ever gonna see a "Charlies Angles" with the the remaining angels? I could see the girls passing the torch to the NEW 2021 Angels. I'm sure Kate Jackson won't do it, bitter old dyke

Hated Sabrina Duncan!

[quote]R349 I wonder why Jaclyn never stood up for Shelly? I mean, Jaclyn, David Doyle, and Cheryl had some clout and could have came to Shelly's defense when she was on the chopping block.

Costume designer Nolan Miller said they all ended up hating Hack’s offscreen personality, and were glad to see her GO.

Who had the best angeltoe?

I liked Kate Jackson best because her name was Sabrina which made it hilarious when David Doyle, with his lisp, addressed her: "Thabrina! Thabrina!"

1. Jaclyn Smith - the prettiest. 2. Cheryl Ladd - also very pretty, and I like the way she came in and did a great job of "replacing" Farrah, which was a difficult task 3. Shelly Hack - I didn't much care for her look, but there was something about her I liked. 4. Kate Jackson - meh. I guess she had a bit more acting chops than the others, but who watched this trash for the acting? 5. Farrah Fawcett - I hated her for taking so much attention away from the far more beautiful Jaclyn Smith, for being a shitty actress, and for leaving to make "Sunburn and "Saturn 3". 6. Tanya Roberts - I'd stopped watching by then, so I really can't judge her one way or the other.

[quote] No way we are ever gonna see a "Charlies Angles" with the the remaining angels?

Sabrina, Kelly, and Jill = Right, acute, and obtuse

[quote]R359 Kate Jackson - meh. I guess she had a bit more acting chops than the others, but who watched this trash for the acting?

Jackson was a beast and a nag offscreen, but you need contrast among an ensemble. She did come across as smart and funny. And the fact that she could act let her take on more fake personas in the investigations.

Neither Smith nor Fawcett read as especially intelligent. Those bimbos would never have solved a case on their own.

Back in the late 80s, People magazine did an article about the show and one of the producers (forget which one) said they wanted to do a reunion TV movie and would pay them a million bucks each to do it. He made it clear they were only interested in Kate, Farrah, Jaclyn and Cheryl and that they'd have to get at least three of those four to proceed. I bet Jaclyn and Cheryl would've been game and Kate and Farrah being the holdouts.

I like the three original ones the best. It’s fun to watch the shows on the reboot stations that are playing so many old shows. Of the angels they added in later years the only one that was tolerable to me was Cheryl Ladd.

Any other specifics aside, Tanya Roberts really is a fantastic looking woman. I never saw any of her episodes because the show just seemed desperate and boring by then... Hack had really dragged it down.

Angel Loraine.

The way they treated Sada on that show was just shameful. Did she even get paid for the season they booted her from?

It was probably a mistake to schedule her bikini scene for the very first day.

R365

I hate you for that.

Now I have the instrumental of “A View To A Kill” running through my brain.

I’m interested in the business side of the show.

Did Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood get 50% of the profits for the entire run?

What were the actresses’ salaries? I believe they were initially quite modest. Who got raises and when?