Is anyone else on Next Door?
Dayum, talk about depressing. The neighbors all hate each other, spy on each other and snitch on each other. If you're thinking of moving to a new neighborhood, don't look at this app because you'll never want to move anywhere.
I do wonder how they can get away with posting photos and even addresses of people they claim are breaking the law. The site is essentially not moderated and it gets very ugly. I mean, not DL ugly, but ugly.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 7, 2020 6:40 PM
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There is no crueler place than that vile pit of trollery.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | January 3, 2020 5:40 PM
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Yes I’m on it. I wanted to get recommendations for tradespeople. You are right, it is a horror show. People will fight for days about petty things, and there are so many bitter busy bodies complaining about nothing. One old man wanted to have someone walk his dog and not pay the person “because it’s so easy to walk a dog.” WTF? It makes you feel like hating thy neighbors.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 3, 2020 5:45 PM
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Some threads degrade into racism (especially when there’s a black “suspect”) and/or politics.
Oh wait. I meant to post that on the “Is anyone on DL?” thread.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 3, 2020 5:49 PM
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My Next Door is so boring in comparison. All the fraus are just looking for babysitters
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 3, 2020 5:54 PM
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[quote] You are right, it is a horror show. People will fight for days about petty things, and there are so many bitter busy bodies complaining about nothing.
And The Gays already have Data Lounge for that.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 3, 2020 5:56 PM
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Meet any married dads on there?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | January 3, 2020 5:57 PM
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Mine is all missing cats and birds (is there a connection?), curb alerts (treasures in the trash or at least on the sidewalk) and some really strange shit like the woman who was posting that some rando suspicious person was visible from her house trying to break into the house next door. So she sits down to write this on Nextdoor instead of calling 911?
Also many, many complaints about leaf blowers.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 3, 2020 5:58 PM
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And on mine we had a post from a lady who wanted volunteers to help here pack and move. This is after she got a fortune for her house.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 3, 2020 6:08 PM
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What's so scary is the realization that you are indeed being watched. People know when you put your trash cans out, where you park your car, what times you walk your dogs and then complain about it.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 3, 2020 6:48 PM
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My neighbors on Nextdoor are super nice to each other. No racism, no insults just very helpful. Move to Flyover Kansas City Missouri and live in a blue collar neighborhood, the living is easy.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 3, 2020 6:56 PM
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Is this an app or a website?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 3, 2020 7:08 PM
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[R10] Blue collar neighborhoods are nicer. The swanky ones are always calling the cops and so paranoid the riffraff are coming in to take their stupid stuff. Who would be dumb enough to burglar one of these places with all the alarms and cameras everywhere anyway? Poor people are more likely to get robbed than the rich.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 3, 2020 7:14 PM
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Full of women who want volunteers to fix their car, give and deliver to them a new queen size mattress from a short list of approved luxury brands, chop down trees and remove debris (and clean gutters while there), paint interior,paint exterior, replace countertop with marble (you supply labor and materials), take and remove leaves, repair garage door...
by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 3, 2020 7:47 PM
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[R14] Are the women providing services in exchange?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 3, 2020 7:51 PM
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Endless coyote alerts (in suburb outside of Boston), plus constant requests for contractors, repairmen, etc.
It only gets exciting when one of the 2 or 3 entertaining town nuts hijack a thread.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | January 3, 2020 7:51 PM
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OP, do you live in Alexandria?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 3, 2020 7:55 PM
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Very helpful for referrals. Where can I find a good . . . ? Also good for WTF is going on down by Smith and De Soto? I saw two squad cars and an ambulance.
For my neighborhood, the ugliness comes out in the sections undergoing gentrification. Yikes.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 3, 2020 7:56 PM
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90 percent of posts involve rants about people’s animals. One man got angry about dogs ‘peeing’ on his yard (he claimed that urine does damage). The biggest outrage recently was a man who was seen throwing a LIVE rabbit into a trash can. The lady who tattled on him posted his photo and home address. Animal lovers then started to threaten him, before the entire thread was removed. There are also posts about ‘suspicious looking people’ which is always code for a minority (I live in an affluent suburb surrounded by elderly white people).
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 3, 2020 7:57 PM
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If someone asks for a referral on ND, I would never give one out because it's probable that the person will complain about what a terrible job they did and what an idiot you were for recommending them. It's pretty incredible.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 3, 2020 8:15 PM
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I saw a chilling video of a person wearing a hoodie shining a flashlight into our neighbor’s car parked in her driveway. It was captured by her Ring video doorbell, at 1am.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 3, 2020 8:15 PM
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Mine is a mix: people selling stuff, or looking for a service provider or tip on home maintenance, recommending (or not) a restaurant....or incredible drama and very personal insults. Amazes me, as obviously you all live near each other and it’s really not that hard to figure out exactly where someone lives.
The last school bond issue you couldn’t even keep up, and I’ve seen shit shows over the city putting in sidewalks, trash cans not brought up by 6pm on trash day, and the most recent was someone’s out of town holiday guests parking in the street. Unbelievable.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 3, 2020 8:23 PM
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Do any of them discuss the wholesome, full of cum The Boy Next Door?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 3, 2020 8:23 PM
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Chaturbate really is more interesting than ND.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 3, 2020 8:28 PM
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r25 Maybe they should merge.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 3, 2020 8:30 PM
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Next Door's goal seems to be to turn every neighborhood into Stepford.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | January 3, 2020 8:30 PM
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R24 ask Joel's elderly neighbor...
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 3, 2020 8:32 PM
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Wow, what crap towns do you all live in? My Next Door is all requests for referrals, lost pets, warnings about spotted flies and coyotes. Everyone is super helpful and nice. Very benign. Nothing like this cess pit.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 3, 2020 8:35 PM
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I report on all the neighborhood hussies who are cheating on their husbands, or trying to steal other women's husbands. I've gotten two of these hussies run out of the neighborhood.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 3, 2020 8:37 PM
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You notice a pattern to the people bitching. A lot of "If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole, if you meet assholes all day, you're the asshole". types People freaking out that black kids are selling school stuff door to door and people with fuzzy dogs complaining that the groomer scalped their dogs and then denying the dog was matted. Also the folks whose entire nights were ruined because they didn't get timely appetizers or drink refills.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 3, 2020 8:38 PM
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A few weeks ago two people got in a huge fight over whether all people who drive SUVs are selfish jerks or just safety oriented . It got so ugly and violence was threatened by both sides. I was expecting that the one dude would end up getting run over by the other dudes SUV. There are also fights every month about whether bicyclists are rude or not. Very rude fights about rudeness. It’s kind of entertaining but I had to turn off the notifications because they go off constantly all day and night. These people must be homebound and do nothing but pick at each other. Yes, like DL.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 3, 2020 8:45 PM
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Much, much worse is the Citizen app. I live in Philadelphia, in a mostly white neighborhood, and every time there’s a break in or robbery, the racists flock to complain about the “outsiders” infiltrating the neighborhood. Really vile stuff sometimes, outright blaming minorities for crime.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 3, 2020 8:49 PM
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Agreed, R31. I notice a few familiar names over and over at this point who either start these threads or turn an otherwise benign one into a spectacle by going after someone they had an issue with in another thread or dropping politics, etc...into it.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 3, 2020 8:54 PM
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Thanks. Now I know not to join the next time a postcard for Next Door arrives in the mail. figured it would be populated by busybodies.
A few years ago, we had a departmental secretary who was a nasty piece of work and brought everyone down to her level. She told me that when she walked her dog around her neighborhood on Recycles day, she would look to see who the drinkers were in her neighborhood. Lovely woman. Ever since I heard that, I make sure to put the liquor bottles at the top of the can, so my neighbors can have someone to talk about.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | January 3, 2020 9:00 PM
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It's worth joining, r35, if only so you can check in on your block when you're out of town.
I'm from Houston and was out of town when Harvey hit. It was weeks before I could go back home. I was already subscribed to NextDoor, and that's when it paid off. I could reassure myself that my area was okay. NextDoor was an invaluable resource as the city was getting back on its feet.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 3, 2020 9:06 PM
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I just joined out of curiosity, and in my neighborhood it's mostly been people bitching about fireworks between Christmas and New Year's. Other than that people seem to have huge problems with people's guests parking on the street.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 3, 2020 9:19 PM
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Is Cody Cummings still Next Door?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 3, 2020 9:24 PM
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I live in the same neighborhood as Joan Lunden, and several neighbors have complained about her walking around on their property in the middle of the night and looking in their windows.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 3, 2020 10:28 PM
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I'm a Lead (mod) on ND, and another mod, who is MTF, keeps turning us in to the admins when we disagree with her about deleting posts. She wants even mild cussing to lead to deletion. I found out she was MTF because her weird pic, her weird drag sounding name, and then I doxxed her. She even has a review of her bottom surgeon on Yelp. A bunch of us complained back to the admins about her constantly complaining and sowing discord. She disappeared for awhile, but she's back in the past couple weeks.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 3, 2020 10:53 PM
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Some of them crack me up. Most of the people are very nice and think through what they post. Some? Well, it's totally Gladys Kravitz ("why are people shooting off fireworks on Christmas Eve!") and others are just unintentionally funny ("will a wild fox eat my cat?"). I can't tell if the Fox one was concern or temptation.
But 99% of the people are very nice.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 3, 2020 11:52 PM
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I'm on NextDoor and have to be very careful about posting after reading DL. It's always a good idea, after reading and especially after posting on DL, to stop, let the comment, answer or OP elsewhere sit for an hour and [italic]then[/italic] hit the post button. More than once I went back and realized that the filthy language, bad attitude and name-calling common here carried over and it was nowhere near as funny. People might actually think I'm like this in real life!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 4, 2020 12:19 AM
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I've been on NextDoor in two different cities, and people have been really nice. It's a great resource, I like it.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 4, 2020 12:22 AM
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No, but I'm on death's door.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 4, 2020 12:37 AM
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Ha! I just remembered when I lived in AZ, and Too short lived in the neighborhood, and all the old white people were afraid and bothered by the noise. He had 2ish acres, so I doubt it was that loud. They just didn’t like to see a bunch of black people in the guard gated community.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 4, 2020 12:39 AM
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Ha haha! Next Door is fulkl of people with no sense of humor.
I haven't checked it in a couple years but when I was last on, some woman was complaining that Sharon Meadow (in GG Park) and the "rainbow tunnel" on 101 going into Marin had been renamed for dead Robin Williams.
I wondered why she cared so very much and looked at her name...It was Sharon Something. So I replied, "Your comment would be funnier if your name was Sharon Rainbow."
Well! You'd have thought I told her to go fuck her dead daddy! The scoldings! "Is this how you treat a NEIGHBOR?" Sharon herself clung to to her lack of humor, saying, "I don't understand your 'joke!'" Then she thought about it for a day and came back to say something else, adding a "Mic drop!" at the end, like she told me!
A couple people sent me DMs to laugh at her. Otherwise, it's all idiots.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 4, 2020 1:13 AM
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Mine is usually pretty easy going. It does get a little nuts around election time and when property assessments are out.
I do appreciate our Chief of Police providing updates on criminal activity and the status.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | January 4, 2020 1:29 AM
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Mine is tame. Just about contractors and coyotes. I have a chihuahua so I bought a coyote vest. It's ridiculous looking but he doesn't mind wearing it.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | January 4, 2020 3:21 AM
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Do any of you benefit in any positive way from participating in Next Door?
I have considered logging on, but it feels like a quick trip into a vortex that ends in Hell. But I'm happy to be wrong about that apprehension.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 4, 2020 1:54 PM
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I joined ND a few years ago. I lasted less than a week before I deleted my account.
My first issue was that the boundaries of the 'neighborhood' on ND made no sense in real life. I live in a suburb and the city limit is two blocks to the south. The ND neighborhood was roughly a mile-square section of the city to the north, plus two suburban streets (mine and one over). So it wasn't at all what I considered my neighborhood, it was the neighborhood to the north.
But it was the incredibly rude and negative atmosphere that caused me to give up and go away. All the posters did was complain about and fight with each other. The name-calling was incessant. Someone would post a comment about a community event, and people would attack the poster over the event. It was clear people were only using the app to engage in online fights.
I wouldn't associate with people who behaved like that in real life, and I certainly wasn't going to spend time with them online. So I went to delete my account. And got a pop-up "Sorry to see you leaving Next Door! Please tell us why you're leaving" message, followed by checklist of five reasons to choose from. Among the five reasons was "People are too rude/too much fighting".
So yeah - that behavior is pervasive on ND, ND knows they have a problem, but they're not doing anything about it.
(One of the other reasons on the checklist was that the neighborhood moderators weren't doing their jobs correctly.)
by Anonymous | reply 50 | January 4, 2020 2:51 PM
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R50, I have seen threads deleted. It would be nice if they’d just block the shit-stirrers.....but then how would you figure out who your neighborhood jerks are and what triggers them?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 4, 2020 3:03 PM
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Maybe it's just my neighborhood (academics, grad students, techies, a couple of elderly hippies who got in early, the Nepali contingent) or maybe our mods are working, but there is little to no fighting on my local ND. Very occasionally someone in response to 1187th complaint about airplane noise that day will say something like, "the airport's been there since 1927. When did you move in?" and get chastised for saying that much, so clearly it works in different ways with varying degrees of civility depending on the 'hood.
But otherwise it's pretty useless. I can go weeks or months without looking at it. And I've had it with the contractor recommendations because every single tradie I've heard of through ND and gotten a quote from has given me prices a third to a half higher than whoever I ended up hiring. It's a great source for outrageous estimates, and lately (as above) reports of coyote sightings in the local parks, but not much else.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 4, 2020 3:20 PM
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On my ND page, the mods only delete threads when someone requests it and then they have to vote on it. I have no idea what the guidelines are, but many of the posts are borderline libel and yet they are allowed. I've asked that a thread be deleted where someone posted a name and address of a neighbor they claimed injured their dog and the mod replied that they had photographic proof (they didn't.) and it was the same as if a news station did it, the mods voted to keep it so tough luck. I deleted my page and don't regret it. You do occasionally read of some worthwhile events and cautions and recommendations, but it really just amped up suspicion in our paranoid, conspiracy oriented times.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 4, 2020 4:34 PM
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R53, doxxing is 100% against the rules, and if you sent ND admins (not the leads) the link to the post, they'd delete it without a vote.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 4, 2020 11:30 PM
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Sort of an Onion version of what ND is like. Sadly, it's pretty much spot on.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 55 | January 5, 2020 12:01 AM
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I'm a fan of Nextdoor. I've used it in 3 states in which I've lived over the last 6 years, and the better experiences have been in the 2 states where I lived in a larger city with universities, corporations, hospitals, etc. In other words, fairly educated people. The one crappy experience was in a midwestern state in which my partner and I probably had the highest education levels and income of anyone in the small city in which we lived. (I realize how pretentious that sounds, and it's not meant to be.)
ND has been useful for giving away moving boxes and extra furniture and other items we didn't want to transport when we moved. In our present city, which is in the SF Bay area, ND is used extensively in our neighborhood. Only a handful of people are dicks (the bad kind), which you can block/ignore. ND works well when folks are pleasant to one another, have legitimate questions to ask, and have constructive advice to give. I've met some really nice people via Nextdoor.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 5, 2020 12:56 AM
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R49 At least in my neighborhood, people are pretty funny and friendly. It's a non serious, reasonably drama free version of DL.
There's always a couple of people who are off their meds. But (at least here) neighbors try to behave. Partly because their real names are on each post ?
by Anonymous | reply 57 | January 6, 2020 2:42 AM
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An amusingly depressing post from my ND in November:
LOAN OF FOLDING TABLES AND CHAIRS PLEASE
Does anyone have rectangular tables and enough folding chairs to seat 14? Must be clean and in good condition. My mother, sister and other relatives will be visiting for Thanksgiving for the first time in many years. I have issues with my mother from years of abuse especially around her drinking. Have not seen my sister in over 20 years. We shall see.
Please be able to drop off and pick up all items. I have fibro and environmental illness plus a very small car.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 6, 2020 3:23 AM
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My Next Door is a bit like that too sometimes, R58. It's essentially Facebook for neighborhoods really. I stay off it as much as possible but occasionally go on for a laugh.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 6, 2020 6:46 AM
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In my neighborhood, it’s coyotes are coming to eat your small fluffy dog. A coyote actually grabbed a neighbor’s tiny lap dog and started to drag it away by the leg, luckily a neighbor heard the frantic barking and got it to let go and drove it off. The dog lived but was injured.
Second, lost pets. Omg, all lost pets all day. Apparently nobody within 20 miles of my house is physically capable of keeping their pets within their house and yard, ever. The little bastards run loose as if they are escapees from a prison colony.
I personally had to find a home for a turtle someone abandoned when they moved away. I’ve since found out, all turtles do is escape at every opportunity. It’s their hobby. They’re like real-life re-enactors of that war movie where the American POWs dig out of a German POW camp with spoons. Second round was when a stray cat walked into my house when nobody was watching the door, and refused to leave. Just refused. She’s still here a year later. I try not to look at the posts any more.
Third, endless crime. According to surrounding neighborhoods, it’s Mad Max right outside my gated community. Inside, not too bad.
Fourth, what was that scary noise I heard outside?
Fifth, selling stuff.
Mostly they’re civil, with a few Trumpy shouters.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 6, 2020 6:58 AM
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I like next-door. It’s been helpful. But when signing up I did not use my real name and I blocked my address. I don’t need everyone knowing my business!
by Anonymous | reply 62 | January 6, 2020 7:12 AM
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We have both foxes and coyotes in my neighborhood so I always go outside with my miniature dachshund! You don’t just boot your dog out the door and forget about them. You are so funny [R60] All three of our box turtles escaped. One went down to the woods to hibernate for the winter and showed up back home in springtime covered in mud. They are horny little bastards/bitches and are always looking to bang shells.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | January 6, 2020 12:13 PM
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Next Door seduces you with all the givaways and volunteering. But sooner or later you meet the nastiness.
For me it was a racist thread where someone noted that there were two black men walking in our neighborhood at night. This lead to someone complaining about firearms getting stolen from their car. Then I found the other threads.
That got me off Next Door. Talking to others this is a common pattern. So make sure you never look at any thread about crime--it will turn you off to Next Door forever.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | January 6, 2020 12:28 PM
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Virginia. We have: foxes, coyotes, black bears, raccoons, possum...all kinds of critters.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | January 6, 2020 12:29 PM
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I stay to myself but most neighbors probably think AI am a bad neighbor.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | January 6, 2020 12:29 PM
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R14, I hear you. I'm a gay man, I don't provide this shit to you. I pay my own bills, and it's not my obligation to do shit like that for you.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | January 6, 2020 1:18 PM
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Maybe the straight men see this as an opportunity for sex. I could see the housewives trading services.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | January 6, 2020 1:26 PM
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On Nextdoor the KARENS have HAD SUFFICIENT!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 70 | January 6, 2020 1:58 PM
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A parody of a parody of a parody
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 71 | January 6, 2020 2:17 PM
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R60--That was a tortoise, they live on land and dig under fences and visit neighbors. We had 3 that used to come in our yard in the summer when I was a kid.
Turtles live in water, occasionally crawling onto a rock to bask in the sun.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | January 6, 2020 2:55 PM
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[quote]My neighbors on Nextdoor are super nice to each other. No racism, no insults just very helpful. Move to Flyover Kansas City Missouri and live in a blue collar neighborhood, the living is easy.
I live in Hyde Park (KCMO) and we're constantly telling people that they should move to your neighborhood if they're afraid of black people. We're all less than a five minute walk from a census tract that's 92% black. I'm not sure what they were thinking moving here, but they are always surprised and hurt when we make fun of them.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | January 6, 2020 3:13 PM
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Mine is pretty tame, but I live in a retirement community with thousands of condos. It's mostly looking for referrals for remodeling work or recs for doctors etc. Occasionally someone gets out of line, but nothing really crazy.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | January 6, 2020 3:26 PM
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LOL r58 !!! I’m sure it’s a joke post, probably written by a DLer, but if not, who in their fucking right mind would be willing to do that??
by Anonymous | reply 75 | January 6, 2020 8:13 PM
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Maybe not, R75. I saw a pretty similar one. A woman had to move by a certain date. She was demanding, not asking, that people show up to help her with trucks and vehicles to move her belongings. For free. And judging from the posts, some of them did it without questioning why.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | January 6, 2020 9:01 PM
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R48, I'd never heard of a coyote vest before. Borderline S&M!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 77 | January 6, 2020 9:18 PM
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I saw a post by someone wanting to have someone sew scrubs caps for him. He offered to pay for the materials, but not labor. I wondered A. Why don’t hospitals provide caps? B. Who would be sewing seven caps for someone for free? This isn’t like a charity case as if you’re donating your time to Doctors Without Borders.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | January 6, 2020 9:24 PM
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I've seen a post on our city facebook page for a lady who wanted a bunch of trees cut down for free, but you could keep the wood. She was rightfully roasted.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | January 6, 2020 10:28 PM
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"The site is essentially not moderated and it gets very ugly. I mean, not DL ugly, but ugly."
It's DL for straights. Cunt but without humor. Anyone that tries to inject humor is reported and kicked off. I live in Manhattan, site is full of nasty entitled cunts.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | January 6, 2020 10:36 PM
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r70/71 thank you for those links. I'm laughing my ass off.
"STAR WARS FANDOM AND PERPETUAL DOG SHIT HAVE OUR CUL DE SAC ON THE BRINK OF WWIII"
by Anonymous | reply 81 | January 7, 2020 1:23 AM
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Which one of you bitches is Kathryn from Hampton Ridge?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 82 | January 7, 2020 1:35 AM
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Well R73 we have black people in our neighborhood so they wouldn't feel safe here. We actually have a lot of people from the middle east, Guam and Mexico. Most blue collar neighborhoods in Kansas City have a good mix of other cultures now.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | January 7, 2020 8:54 AM
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Similar to most of yours, it’s usually just pets that got out, spooked people looking through their peepholes, faux outrage over silly causes like beer being sold at the gas station and lots of free IKEA furniture. Occasionally though there is a treat like this one...
A self-proclaimed “cat mom” posted that she’s new to the area and described her cat and I think maybe even posted a pic. She asked everyone to keep an eye out for ‘handsome boy,’ as he likes to go out for a stroll after his dinner in the early evening. It went nuts after that...”we’re not your babysitters!” and everything from stories about packs of wild dogs (not true, we live downtown) to speeding cars (true) to people threatening to take her cat if they see him because she is an unfit cat mom.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | January 7, 2020 3:38 PM
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I always like to respond to lost pet postings with “Your cat was delicious.”
Obviously tailored to whatever kind of pet it is.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 7, 2020 6:40 PM
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