Yang Almost Outraised Warren Last Quarter: $17M for her, $16.5M for him

Yang is a joke that's why. He wants to give everyone in America 1,000 dollars a month for a year? Bitch please, can you imagine all the low life's getting that and spending it on drugs and guns? Or an Luis Vuitton car paint job?

His idiot Libertarian/ex-Bernie Bro supporters would never have voted Democrat anyway, so no big loss.

Thanks for keeping us up to date on #yanggang though, founding member YourMillennialFriend 🙄

$17M for Warren is an old estimate, before she held that $3 million donation drive in the last week of 2019. She probably raised around $20 million and will try burying the numbers during today's or tomorrow's news dump. Because it's obviously bad optics - the only one to come in lower than in Q3. No candidate who achieved that later went on to become president in at least the last thirty years.

Regarding Yang, I will say that his supporters were hoping for almost a month now to have this huge media blitz when his numbers came out, at least for a day, which would then propel him in national polls and get him to the January debate. Unfortch, instead of releasing his numbers immediately like Pete, he gave the exclusive to The New York Times, which publish his numbers yesterday. Bernie then released his gigantic numbers literally ten minutes later, Castro dropped out the same day, Marianne laid off her entire staff, Iran assassination happened... that media blitz strategy kinda died on its ass. Still, impressive. Though important to note he'd be at $12.5 million had that DNC outrage and the hope of outrasing Warren not sent his supporters into a donation frenzy, which resulted in $4 million raised in eight days.

[quote]Unclear why too--he has no real shot and it is important to understand what it is about his message that is resonating.

There's real power in being an underdog outsider, I've noticed. As for his chances going forward, he has a week to go before the debate polling deadline on the 10th. If he doesn't make the debate, he's done.

Oh and your glee at Warren dropping a bit in fundraising. We get it, you hate her. I hope she goes after your trust fund as VP.

Thanks for the explanation R3 -- did not know about NYT exclusive. That makes a lot of sense now.

[quote]His idiot Libertarian/ex-Bernie Bro supporters would never have voted Democrat anyway, so no big loss.

When Tom Perez refused to commission more polls per Yang's request last week, his sub immediately turned into Yang or Bust, with people actually mailing Perez, threatening they would vote for Trump as registered Democrats in November if he doesn't meet Yang's demands. The masks slipped so fast...

There are just so many people among his supporters who voted for Trump and are now expecting to be wined and dined because they're graciously considering Yang. It's gross to watch. And they genuinely believe Yang can win on rallying the disaffected vote alone.

It's no surprise that Yang is the top candidate on right wing Drudge report.

Ann Selzer of the famous Iowa Selzer poll - the gold standard of polls - basically begged his supporters on Twitter yesterday to stop calling her office and pestering her to release her poll already. They are on a mission, honey. 😄

Warren just announced that they did hit a higher number -- $21.2M

Still would be great to see an analysis of why Yang and Pete, two "who dat?" candidates, performed so much better than Harris, Booker, Castro, Hickenlooper, Bennett et al.

Not saying I agree with giving people a monthly check, but Yang is a fresh voice. He’s not afraid of talking about why Trump won and the Democrats lost in the last election.

[quote]He’s not afraid of talking about why Trump won and the Democrats lost in the last election.

He literally said Trump won because some people in the Midwest lost their jobs due to automation. I mean, yes, that's part of the reason, but it's far from the only reason and the country is larger than just the Midwest. Such simplistic thinking in politics makes me cringe. It's also completely dismissive of the fact that Trump also (largely?) won because he promised The Wall to keep the brown people out. That part had nothing to do with automation whatsoever.

In order to get delegates you must get 15% or more of the vote in a Congressional district. Failure to achieve that and you get no district delegates. Likewise, you need 15% in a state to get statewide delegates. Delegates are then awarded proportionally, 20% of delegates for 20% of the votes. Yang will meet none of these thresholds, will accomplish nothing, and spoil nothing. Learn what you're talking about before opening a fat mouth, OP.

I wonder how many wine caves he's been too?

What I think people like about Yang is that he is a pretty nice guy, he doesn't trash anyone and talks about moving forward and healing the division. Many are tired of all the left and right fighting and want to move away from it.

He might not trash talk anyone, but his supporters surely do. They are a toxic nightmare on Twitter and Reddit. And 95% male as well, which tells you exactly what kind of incel rabble he tends to attract.

r12 He might get that 15% in New Hampshire and California because NH has an open primary and California has a third of all Asians in the US, but that's about it for him.

UBI is an idea dreamed-up by the noted communist revolutionary, Milton Friedman.

[quote] He might not trash talk anyone, but his supporters surely do.

They don't trash talk anyone, but they correctly point out when other candidates steal his ideas.

Yang's problem is that he is not a natural politician. He would get destroyed against a dirty liar like Trump.

R15, that's really unfortunate. Why is that crowd, particular, so into him?

R1, you're an idiot. Besides, everybody knows you can't get a good LV paint job for $1000. 🙄

r18 The misfit aspect is strong with Yang, so that's why I think they're so into him. Those who support him feel disillusioned and left behind in a way, by both parties. Of course it's important that independents and libertarians feel represented in the political process, but... this is a Democratic primary, so their anger over not doing that well in the polls just seems misplaced to me.

I do wonder how much him being AAPI plays a part in fostering that outsider sentiment. In other words, I wonder what his following might look like if he were an establishment AAPI Democrat, like Judy Chu, John Chiang, Mark Takano...

That makes sense R19

There is a strong degree of overlap between BernieBro16 and YangGang 20, it does seem to be people who are looking for the New New Thing

The Democratic party should work harder on reaching these people, but at the same time they shouldn't bend over backwards too much while doing so. After all, they are not a reliable voting block and will probably stay home in November if Yang doesn't get the nom. Or, you know, switch back to Trump and Bernie.

Some Yang updates...

1. He has failed to make the Ohio ballot because of irregularities in his signature collection process.

2. Two new debate-qualifying polls out of Iowa and NH today and he's missed out on both of them.

3. Terri Hatcher just endorsed him.

Yang IS a joke, though.....

Yang is a talented communicator with interesting ideas and tremendously committed supporters. As a long time party activist, I likely will not endorse his candidacy with my vote but I fully support his inclusion in the process until such time that he fails to meet DNC debate participation requirements. At that point I expect he will work hard for the Democratic nominee and convince his supporters to do likewise.

We need to build coalitions to face the Republican party and its voters who have fallen to subservience to a corrupt man with dangerous authoritarian tendencies. That means we need to bring Yang & Co. into the fold if/when he is eliminated in the primary process. We do that by not dismissing, disparaging, or demeaning him and his supporters. Every vote counts as we've seen over and over so we need Yang's support to get us over the finish line and we need to be grateful for his help in capturing the White House and saving America.

I don't find him to be a talented communicator at all. We're less than a month away from Iowa and we still don't know what his healthcare policy is because what he says, what's in his ads, and what's on his website is not in sync. That's Comms 101. He has a weak campaign manager who has let him get away with his signature freestyle communication approach for far too long. We are now seeing the results of that leniency - his plans that aren't the Freedom Dividend fall apart under journalistic scrutiny.

[quote]At that point I expect he will work hard for the Democratic nominee

I have no doubt about that; Bernie would run third party before Yang.

[quote]and convince his supporters to do likewise

He'll try.

[quote]We do that by not dismissing, disparaging, or demeaning him and his supporters.

Sure, though a large chunk of them have either never voted, voted for Trump, or voted for Bernie. Good luck getting them to the ballot if Yang's name isn't on it. They hate the Democratic establishment. HATE it.

R25 Fair enough. You have made your point. My energies are better spent reaching out to Yang supporters and bringing them into the fold as opposed to debating you and further inflaming intraparty tensions at a time when we must come together to stop the dangerous thug in the White House.

r26 You're a bit precious, aren't you, dear?

R27 Don't troll me. I'm being nice but my patience is not unlimited, dear.