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Missing Harley Dilly

What a gay name right? You gays are gonna love this missing child.

Missing Since - Dec 20, 2019

Missing From - Port Clinton, OH

DOB - Aug 12, 2005

Age Now - 14

Sex - Male

Race - White

Hair Color - Brown

Eye Color - Green

Height - 4'9"

Weight - 100 lbs

details to follow (it gets a lot weirder)

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by Anonymousreply 24602/19/2020

[quote]Harley's father reportedly reached out to law enforcement around one month ago, following a disagreement about an electronic device being taken away. Officers were called to help calm Harley down.

[quote]Harley's father reportedly reached out to law enforcement around one month ago, following a disagreement about an electronic device being taken away. Officers were called to help calm Harley down.

by Anonymousreply 101/02/2020

"Last night, I did something that I do not regret. I leaked my phone number on livestreams and got called by streamers. I'm gonna leak my number in the title of this video. Now, if you wanna call me, just wait until after it is 2:30 in Ohio.... I'd be glad to talk to you and answer some questions. Don't forget, keep it kid-friendly because I'm only 12. So if you wanna call me, I guess you can call me this morning if you see the video quick enough"

"Yesterday, I had court. I got charged with menacing for scheduling a fight with a kid, showing him what I would do to him, and then selling tickets for the fight, and then telling him that the ticket holders will come after him if he did not go fight and um, I've already had problems with this kid before. It was I believe, November when we last had our problems, yeah November....I'm trying to change my ways"

by Anonymousreply 201/02/2020

His Pintrest account

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by Anonymousreply 301/02/2020

His Pintrest account

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by Anonymousreply 401/02/2020

one of his many YouTube channels

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by Anonymousreply 501/02/2020

Transcript of now deleted YouTube video on Harley's channel titled "Im scared..." from October 2018:

"What’s up? It is Harley Dilly. Probably one of the worst day of my life.

So, basically, I, um, was at school and I had a science test and I finished it and my computer says 1% battery left so I get to the next class and I put it on the charger as quick as possible but it didn’t charge. None of the computers would take a charge. So, I took it back and I had to fill out a complaint and that’s one of the most expensive parts of the computer and my mom said she’s not paying anything. That’s when I got home. So then, my mom wanted to go with her to go get a friend and I said “I don’t wanna, I have work to do so I wanna go home and stay.” She said no, we argued for about a good five minutes and then she snapped. She said she was gonna call the police and she said she already did. She said “who do you think that first call was to?” and she said it was the police, but I knew it wasn’t because she wouldn’t do that because I went to my school, I went to talk to my assistant principal because he’s like the only person I can really trust in this. So, I went to talk to him and he told me that my mom never called the police, so she lied to me to get me scared.

She locked me out of the house, so right now I’m outside, the house is locked. Um, it is 3:30pm, I haven’t ate anything and I still haven’t got to get my work done. My mom is gone, she won’t answer the phone. So right now, I’m the only one outside. I got nothin better to do, so what’s the point? So I thought I would stream this because I’m not doing a video of this.

I legit was scared because I thought I was gonna have to go to DH for 30 days because if I get another complaint to the police, I’m going to DH for 30 days. I mean, I’ve already took a YouTube leave, but I’m tryin to do stuff guys. If you knew what was going on in my life…

It’s just been a horrible week. I wish I could cram it all up and throw it in the trash can of eternity and just start writing a new story. But gotta stick with the story until tomorrow.

But not everything has been bad, school has been going great. But now I’m behind in grades. It’s too hard. Basketball is coming up, so. I don’t even know what to do anymore. I just wish I wasn’t outside. I wish I didn’t make all of these decisions.

I literally was balling out in tears because I thought I was about to have to go to the police station. And get taken away for 30 days, missing out on all my friends, my mentor, my teachers, school. I know a lot of people don’t like school but my opinion is school is the only place you can really be during the week, so you should use that time wisely.

I wish I was at my friends but my mom told me if I’m not here when she gets back there will be consequences. So, I’m hoping nothing bad happens. But I’m still going to stay on until my mom gets back. But guys…this is a very serious moment. I’m not even going to ask for likes and subscribes. I just want you guys to wish me good luck because the future could hold bad things for me. And I don’t want to find out what that can mean. That could mean me not going to Washington DC for my field trip. Which by the way, I was going to vlog that whole trip, so if you wanna have that happen…nah, I’m not gonna do it, I’m not gonna do it. I’ll do it at a later date but. I’m just so sad. Christmas is coming up and I’m trying to earn myself an Xbox 1, so I can play Fortnite with my friend James. You remember James, from that basketball video. Yeah.

*long pause and sigh*

You’re not going to see a lot of gameplay of games anymore. I saw those weren’t doing very good, so I stopped. But if you do want me to play a mobile game that you think would be fun to watch, leave a comment down below what you want because I’ll do it.

My mom is calling me, see you guys. Sorry. Bye."

by Anonymousreply 601/02/2020

His SM account is without a doubt unbelievable for his age. The post on Feb 18, 2019 "Playing Xbox With A Friend" was streamed live. He moves the camera angle in hour 5 when his mom comes home.

There are 2 people in the chat. He is taking to someone named James and he notices they are not alone. But before he realizes someone else is in the chat, he moons the camera.

This is a 7 plus hour long video. You can hear some interaction between him and his mom after hour 5. He is definitely literally over exposing himself on live SM.

When I originally saw this post, it had less than 20 views. It has now grown to over 245.

With all the media coverage on this kid and all the posts about his SM, if he didn't have a stalker before all this publicity on this case, when he does come back he is going to be further exposed and at risk.

I hope LE has a game plan for this kid and family to protect him. Maybe they should go ahead and take down his videos since he is being blasted on every SM site now. JMO

by Anonymousreply 701/02/2020

Harley states in one of his YouTube videos that he’s banned from the library for life. He doesn’t say why but explains he cant do Roblox anymore because of it. I believe it was titled “Bad News” (though I watched quite a few) On the older channel.

by Anonymousreply 801/02/2020

[quote]In another video, Harley talks about how he was charged with menacing for setting up a schoolmate into a fight for which he planned to sell tickets so others could watch the other boy get beat up. Harley has been missing since Dec. 20.

Well, good.

by Anonymousreply 901/02/2020

And if you follow the MSM links and read her FB post from last night, she starts it out with "Just I guess it's time I get on tv and talk..." because going on tv to try to find your missing 14-year-old son is such an annoying inconvenience I guess. :(

And you can read the rest of her bizarre post. She has made it about herself from the very beginning, she is extremely manipulative and it appears to me that she manipulates and gaslights Harley into some of his "bad behavior". Sadly I have known mothers like this, that's why it's so glaringly obvious to me. Notice all of her pleas for him to come home center on HIM coming home to make HER feel better. Including coming home to lay on top of her until she feels better (the Grandfather actually said this). WTH??

by Anonymousreply 1001/02/2020

The dailymail posted his mom’s Facebook post. So I guess it’s ok to post. Here are snippets and attached is a shot of the post (dailymail posted it):

‘I have tried to protect him from all the pain in the world, but he is a teen and can't always be a momma's boy,’ she wrote.

‘I knew as he got older I would lose a little more of his attention but what I would give just to get that little bit now.

‘I can't bring myself to clean up things in his room, I didn't want to wash the dirty clothes from his room, and I refuse to put the tree and any Christmas stuff away...he didn't have his Christmas with us.’

The post continued: ‘Harley if you see this… please please come home, call someone, let us know you are alive and safe.

‘I leave my door open and stare outside looking at the road, the alley, the cars going by… are you in there, can you see us.

‘What if [sic] all the online and tv isn’t reaching you. You’ve been gone and NO one has seen you… where are you? Momma loves you...every night I sit on couch and try to stay awake for you...Just come home. Please.’

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by Anonymousreply 1101/02/2020

Wow, this story it nuts. It sounds to me like either he ran away from home to get away from his parents or some pervert/psycho from the Internet took him away. Maybe a combination of both.

by Anonymousreply 1201/02/2020

R11 His mom is balding just like Megen who is sitting in an Austin jail, charged with kidnapping her friend, Heidi Broussard, and acting like Heidi's newborn was her own. Megen hasn't been charged with murder of Heidi, yet.

by Anonymousreply 1301/02/2020

In this report about a Sober House that was proposed Harley's mother said this:

[quote]Concern is the feeling Heather Dilly expresses after learning the site of a proposed sober living house could be next door to her Fifth Street home...Dilly said she is concerned about the possibility of having drug addicts near her son, who has autism, and plans to move out by March.

HOWEVER...

Chief Hickman was asked about this at a press conference and replied “no comment”. I do not believe it to be confirmed that Harley is autistic.

by Anonymousreply 1401/02/2020

Could the parents have killed him? They sound pretty unstable and like they didn't want him around.

by Anonymousreply 1501/02/2020

This YouTube video of him is somewhat bizarre

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by Anonymousreply 1601/02/2020

Chief just released a new statement (on FB) that family is cooperative and “we have no reason to believe they are involved”.

He says, "No abduction, no family involvement"

by Anonymousreply 1701/02/2020

Look at his reddit user account..

Here is a thread where he challenges someone to find him "IRL" in real life. His name is HarleyDilly2YT

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by Anonymousreply 1801/02/2020

Send up the DL SleuthSignal!

by Anonymousreply 1901/02/2020

is he a gay?

by Anonymousreply 2001/02/2020

I never say things like this, but I couldn't care less about anything.

by Anonymousreply 2101/02/2020

His sister can't go into Ohio because she has outstanding arrest warrants and get this, Harley's little brother is actually his nephew. He is the child of the sister. The parents legally adopted the youngest child.

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by Anonymousreply 2301/02/2020

Oy. This poor kid. He seems pretty smart and definitely likable, and he’s so young to have so many problems (kinda relate to him). I hope he’s okay.

by Anonymousreply 2401/02/2020

"definitely likable" ?

[quote]...charged with menacing for setting up a schoolmate into a fight for which he planned to sell tickets so others could watch the other boy get beat up.

by Anonymousreply 2501/02/2020

He's safe.

by Anonymousreply 2601/02/2020

Troubled people can be likable, R25. He’s a child and doesn’t sound like has had the easiest of lives....

by Anonymousreply 2701/02/2020

This kid is a goner

His father works...Get ready for this...AS A GARBAGE MAN

And it gets worse, he works at a LANDFILL

by Anonymousreply 2801/02/2020

So sad

by Anonymousreply 2901/03/2020

Harley Dilly. I do like that name but I have a bad feeling about the story. He's been gone for 2 weeks today so it doesn't look good.

by Anonymousreply 3001/03/2020

Could be a friend’s parents took him in because the parents are nuts. That’s the best case scenario.

More likely is he’s dead and the mom is pretending she doesn’t know what happened.

by Anonymousreply 3101/03/2020

He ran away and then got sex trafficked!

by Anonymousreply 3201/03/2020

R26 I thank you for trying to find comforting words but We all think he has left this world

by Anonymousreply 3301/03/2020

Can i ask u a question if u wouldn't.mind please

by Anonymousreply 3401/03/2020

The real odd thing is the mother said he went missing between 6am - 7am of Fri 12-20.

But she later said she never "saw" him then only talked to him. Considering he lives four blocks from school, seems kind of early for him to leave.

The last verified account anyone has of him is 7pm on Thur 12-19 when he went to a friend's home and wanted to spend the night but the friend's parents told him to go home.

So he could've been missing anytime since then.

The parents originally said, he runs away so much, the didn't think nothing of it, in fact he wasn't reported missing till around midnight on Saturday, 41 hours after the mother claimed to last "hear" him.

by Anonymousreply 3501/03/2020

[quote]is he a gay?

No way in hell he's gay.

by Anonymousreply 3601/03/2020

R26 maybe he is struggling with that

by Anonymousreply 3701/03/2020

[quote]Height - 4'9"...Weight - 100 lbs

He certainly is tiny.

If he was six feet he'd be 126 pounds proportionately, so he should be rail thin

by Anonymousreply 3801/03/2020

R34, Go ahead and ask already.

by Anonymousreply 3901/04/2020

r39

That guy is Harley...You know he couldn't keep off the Internets

by Anonymousreply 4001/04/2020

Wait, opening OP picture, it comes from the Sandusky Register, it does not bode well that he comes from a town with the same name as a notorious molester.

by Anonymousreply 4101/04/2020

Is he on a milk carton yet? I guess in this day and age it would be better if we put missing and exploited children on Starbucks cups. Now that the holidays are done they should start doing that.

by Anonymousreply 4201/04/2020

R40, That actually did cross my mind. They type like a child. And that question could be "How do I return home?"

by Anonymousreply 4301/04/2020

Naw he didn't go on internet

by Anonymousreply 4401/04/2020

[R39] how do u know u watch his you tube

by Anonymousreply 4501/04/2020

Harley would be the ultimate pocket gay.

by Anonymousreply 4601/05/2020

The fraus on Websleuths don't like that the perverts on Datalounge make fun of a missing child

by Anonymousreply 4701/06/2020

I think his parents killed him. His dad works as a garbage man and has access to a landfill so he had means to dispose of the body.

by Anonymousreply 4801/06/2020

Ugh, landfill, so much better than oil tanks!

by Anonymousreply 4901/06/2020

R47 is right. R26 particularly is going to get this site into deep shit.

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by Anonymousreply 5001/06/2020

OMG R50, I just fell into the black hole of Websleuth for an hour plus, that shit is crazy! So it is all women, like some latter day Nancy Drew wanna be club house? How do they make it women only? I didn’t read the whole thing, but they seem to be making out that HD is some 21st Century Johnny Gosch, but maybe they react that way each time? They are freaking out over R26 thinking it’s an actual sighting, but some seem to understand where it’s coming from.

by Anonymousreply 5101/06/2020

They reported us to the police. I'm sure the Port Clinton police chief is a DL subscriber so we're safe.

by Anonymousreply 5201/06/2020

[quote]R52 I'm sure the Port Clinton police chief is a DL subscriber so we're safe.

It’s the Port Charles police that DL has to be worried about.

by Anonymousreply 5301/06/2020

Poor Harley, you know if he's alive he's on the Internet every second reading every comment. It wouldn't surprise me if he staged this so he could get famous.

by Anonymousreply 5401/06/2020

Still missing

His youtube is Harley Dilly 2.0

Reddit is HarleyDilly2yt

Twitter (there are 2) @2_dilly @harley_dilly and @AndUgj Instagram: @dillyharley, @dimedroppingdilly

Discord: HarleyDillyYT#5517 Harley Dilly 2.0 (Browns 2-6)#9950

by Anonymousreply 5501/08/2020

The police chief says he's a weirdo who bathes five times a day, needs special foods and hangs around the house too much.

by Anonymousreply 5601/08/2020

The parents seem super weird. Either they killed him or he ran away because they're abusive.

by Anonymousreply 5701/08/2020

And then in the police tv interview posted, they said that Harley would go home to take baths 4 or 5 times a day, even if he had taken off for a friend's house. He would still come home for his baths then leave again. So you would think that change in his patterns would have raised an alarm if he didn't come home at all for over 40 hours?

by Anonymousreply 5801/08/2020

The more I read, the worse I feel for him. Poor thing.

by Anonymousreply 5901/08/2020

Aren't u quite the weirdo. Smh sick bitch

by Anonymousreply 6001/08/2020

I hope they find Dilly. Parents= opioids?

by Anonymousreply 6101/08/2020

The women and 2 men on websleauths make this site seem like a Harvard Buisness school course. It’s a bunch of old grandmas trying to be Nancy Drew by doing google searches. They also come up with the most batshit crazy conspiracies I’ve ever read. Police must hate them.

by Anonymousreply 6201/08/2020

Did anyone find him yet?

by Anonymousreply 6301/08/2020

This lady posted a youtube video of Harley's parents having a heated argument in the background of one of his videos.

Interesting. Now I think that his parents really did do it.

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by Anonymousreply 6401/08/2020

If the parents aren't directly involved with his disappearance then they're surely the cause of it. He might have run away, got lost in the woods somewhere, and died of exposure. He might have run away and some opportunist creep saw a child walking alone and took him. He might have run away with somebody from the Internet. He might've seen no escape from his shitty home life and committed suicide as an escape. His body could have washed away in a river or something... There are any number of possibilities. But I do believe the parents are to blame. Either directly or indirectly.

by Anonymousreply 6501/08/2020

[quote]r58 they said that Harley would go home to take baths 4 or 5 times a day, even if he had taken off for a friend's house. He would still come home for his baths then leave again.

Could the parents have snuffed him out to cut down on the utility bills?

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by Anonymousreply 6601/08/2020

WAS the kid making money from the YouTube channels?

by Anonymousreply 6701/09/2020

* Was

by Anonymousreply 6801/09/2020

r67

Very few people make any money and he only had like 100 subscribers (more now that this broke)

His videos do show he was one of those drama "I'm a victim" type people that has unfortunately become the norm.

by Anonymousreply 6901/10/2020

I will admit that I am the perfect picture of a "lazy" parent. HOWEVER I battle migraines, my lovely parting gift from my stroke.

I had a few blood clots on my brain and a couple of them are still hanging out, but they aren't harmful since they are monitored. BUT, I know where my kids are AT ALL TIMES. I have help with my kids.

Due to my disability I not only have their father here (who works) I also have my parents (who are retired and old as hell) who help out. My mom is forever taking care of me. She says it's her job since she missed so much while she was working, either in the military or the jobs she had after that just to keep the family afloat.

My dad and my grandmother raised me, so ironically enough it's almost the same family dynamic I grew up with, EXCEPT I am present and I know where my kids are. My son wishes I wasn't a thorn in his butt, he's 18. I told him I don't care how old he is, he's FOREVER gonna be my baby boy, he's my 1st born, I was 19 when I had him and regardless of how old he is, I'm gonna check on him. He's currently still in high school and I continue to monitor him on Social Media

by Anonymousreply 7001/10/2020

About the bathing habits: if HD had OCD, that command in his head to bathe is too powerful to overcome.

As a young person, I HAD to have a bath before I went to bed. It had nothing to do with cleanliness but everything to do with ritual. I missed many sleepovers because of it. And I'd go berserk if I didn't have it because then, in my head "something would go terribly wrong."

Perhaps that was the Chief's point. They knew HD was not hiding out because his bathing rituals were so strong. Those who have never experienced the chains of OCD will never understand what it is like.

by Anonymousreply 7101/10/2020

I believe Harley was abducted or went with someone he didn't know as well as he thought he did. If not this scenario, then my thought process goes to suicide due to what appears to be depression.

I'm hoping we get answers soon, Harley has been gone too long and I don't see this as a rescue mission but a recovery

by Anonymousreply 7201/10/2020

I was really disturbed by revealing such personal information about this child. Discussing/revealing someone’s bathroom habits is over the line.

I understand they may be asking the general public to keep an eye out for a bathroom obsessed kid, but I still think it was unnecessary, and humiliating to the child. That seems to be a trend with this case.

Poor Harley

by Anonymousreply 7301/10/2020

Frau alert

by Anonymousreply 7401/10/2020

In my research into Harley Dilly, I have found a disturbing pattern in OHIO. It very well may happening in all of our states, but so far I've only been researching OHIO. (This is just a bit of what I have so far; I plan on posting more of my research over the weekend)

To give you an idea; the day HD went missing (DEC 20th) so did 4 other teen boys.

All the same race, all around the same age except one (Daylin Kitchen (11) who I believe is related to Daniel Kitchen...I'm still researching).

There are 9 other days in December that 3 or MORE teen boys went missing.

Some more information; Toledo is the 3rd LARGEST hub for human trafficking and is only an hour from the Canadian border by land. I have absolutely NO IDEA if these disappearances are related to HD or vice versa. This is just me putting out there what I see and what I've found hoping we bring these kids home and get them safe.

Ethan Banks (14 years old/white) - missing from Lebanon OHIO

Daniel Kitchen (15 years old/white) - missing from Grove City OHIO

Daylin Kitchen (11 years old/white) - missing from Columbus OHIO

Harley Dilly (14 years old/white) - missing from Port Clinton OHIO

Cameron Carey (15 years old/white) - missing from Toledo OHIO

by Anonymousreply 7501/10/2020

Omg R75, that is fucking BIZARRE.

What do you think is going on?

by Anonymousreply 7601/10/2020

Any theory that has HUMAN/SEX TRAFFICKING as its motive, without good evidence, is paranoid hysteria. It used to be Satan-worshipers when I was a kid; now it’s “sex traffickers”.

by Anonymousreply 7701/10/2020

His parents are complete TRASH.

I hope he finds justice.

by Anonymousreply 7801/10/2020

I think we’ve been invaded by the websleauth nut jobs so expect a lot of sex trafficking posts followed by personal health tales of their own lives ( I had a stroke! ) that have nothing to do with the case.

by Anonymousreply 7901/10/2020

When we find your son... you may not want him back.

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by Anonymousreply 8001/10/2020

But...but...who will think of the children, r79??

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by Anonymousreply 8101/10/2020

I have been reading online studies about excessive screen time and teenage suicide risks. IMO, Harley spent an excessive amount of screen time online in the extreme sense. My thoughts are that Harley had a meltdown after his phone broke and had any electronic device taken away if true.

by Anonymousreply 8201/11/2020

Given the report that Harley’s broken and handed over phone roughly coincides with his disappearance and given that his SM activity on that phone was such a huge part of who Harley is, I imagine that Harley felt incredibly wounded with the loss. So, I don’t think there had to be any illness, anxiety, or fear beyond that loss. And we still do not know what motivated the forced surrender of the device.

The forced surrender of the device and Harley’s disappearance seem to me inextricably linked. As a stranger with what little I know about Harley, I can see that. Yet, in all the appeals for Harley to return, acknowledgment of and remorse for the pain of that loss to him has not been even mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 8301/11/2020

I think whoever has him,has a spike in water usage. I hope they can get meter reads for the area. Also I think someone was grooming him online. So they could watch him in the bath. Make him believe it's no big deal. Gaining his trust, "I can make you a star". We can blow up YouTube" "Don't listen to mom, it's our little secret". Etc like these pervs do. They might have had a secret code. For meeting up, in case his phone got taken away. Maybe he broke intentionally to make it hard for mom to find what was going on

by Anonymousreply 8401/11/2020

His parents should have named him Dilly.

Dilly Dilly.

by Anonymousreply 8501/11/2020

Or Dallas. Then he could be Dally Dilly

by Anonymousreply 8601/11/2020

In our day, you just waited a year or so- then rented their room out.

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by Anonymousreply 8701/11/2020

[quote]His mother locked him out of the house.

What washe to do? Where was he to go?

He was out on her fanny

by Anonymousreply 8801/12/2020

It's a mystery. What could have happened to him in such a short time?

He didn't make it to the school which was only a few blocks away so where did he go?

It was very cold outside that morning, he wasn't walking around town for hours out in that cold, and even if he was, someone else would have seen him or caught him on surveillance.

I have wondered if shortly after leaving his house if he got in someone's car, or maybe even went inside someone's house for some reason.

If so, it would likely be someone he knew or was familiar with, not someone he met online, because I imagine LE would have found a trail of communication if that were the case.

Another possibility is that he headed for school but decided to go back home for some reason, and took a route which the neighbor's surveillance did not catch him returning to his house.

This is all assuming that the 6:08am footage is actually really Harley. Such a frustrating case!

by Anonymousreply 8901/12/2020

Is he a pocket gay? If so some homosexual may have lured him.

by Anonymousreply 9001/13/2020

If this is a prank by harley to increase traffic on his youtube sites, it's working. social blade, a site that looks at a YouTube traffic numbers, shows clearly that since 12/20/19 subscriptions , as well as page views, have increased on HD 2.0. however I sure hope that the Police have some good information that makes them think Harley just ran away and basically needs to be talked home.

Reason I say that is because in a way they are showing Harley as a bit of a perp in this. I really hope that in the messages to Harley they would include phrasing like," Harley, if you are able.." , "Harley, we understand there may be danger so be careful..", not just "Harley, you need to come home" kind of phrasing.

Otherwise people may start thinking along the lines that it's just Harley and he'll come home when he decides to and also giving Harley the possibility of escaping from captors would give him an out and might get him to end it sooner.

A tough love type response might be to have youtube temporarily suspend all his sites so traffic numbers freeze. that's if Harley is pulling a prank. I don't know if he is but i doubt it. another thing I pick up from Harley is he is a bit into the drama angle, but i tend to think many of the youtube content providers are.

by Anonymousreply 9101/13/2020

This case bothers me, ALOT. A kid who feels safer at school than in his own home is in need of help.

That he feels his teachers are more trustworthy and accessible than anyone else in his life is heartbreaking.

That his social media activity has stopped is hugely concerning. I have teenagers, they live through the Internet and they would rather lose an arm than voluntarily give up online access.

Teenagers are difficult, teenagers on the spectrum even more so.

Is there any word on how he would be supporting himself out there? Financially or otherwise?

by Anonymousreply 9201/13/2020

I remember seeing early on that Harleys bike was broken(just like his heart and spirit must've been), as it was reported at first that some kids had seen him on his bike at 3pm on the friday he went missing and later it was confirmed not to be Harley and reported that his bike was out if action.

I will see if you can still find the link but they have all changed so much it might be gone,so until I find it this is

by Anonymousreply 9301/13/2020

Well, police were searching an empty house very near to where Harley and his family live. Apparently a hooded red parka was found inside the house and that is said to be what Harley was wearing when he went missing. All kinds of rumors were spreading on Twitter in regards to this, including that a coroner van was seen at this abandoned house as well. But so far none of them have been confirmed.

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by Anonymousreply 9401/13/2020

The police said he had a puffy coat, not a parka.

by Anonymousreply 9501/13/2020

R70 is a parody of a Websleuth nut, right?

by Anonymousreply 9601/13/2020

The police were there, the fire dept was there, they busted through drywall, the cadaver dogs were there, the police originally said they did not find a body but that was when this first broke. An ambulance showed up but when to the Dilly house not the house they were investigating. A white bag which could fit a small person was brought out, but it wasn't a body bag per say.

A conference for 11am central time has been planned.

by Anonymousreply 9701/13/2020

His sister said on Facebook a few minutes ago that Harley is deceased.

by Anonymousreply 9801/13/2020

R98, link??

by Anonymousreply 9901/14/2020

Announcement forthcoming.

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by Anonymousreply 10001/14/2020

Here is the sister's facebook

you can't post links to face book but put

facebook (dot) com / bootifulgrl

by Anonymousreply 10101/14/2020

Harley Dilly deceased, Harley Dilly died

see above

by Anonymousreply 10201/14/2020

Now, it's just a matter of, suicide or moider?

I lean toward murder, after all if they cut drywall, he didn't stuff himself in the wall.

And since the house is pretty much across the street, the cops are going to say the body must've JUST been put there, instead of admitting they stupidly didn't search the house across the street that has been vacant for two years.

A lot of covering up is going to have to be going on, this is why they won't announce anything till they get their tracks nice and covered.

by Anonymousreply 10301/14/2020

the police chief and fire officials left the scene just after 3 a.m. Tuesday, and one officer remained outside the the house into the early morning hours.

At just after 2 a.m. Tuesday, a white van was seen backing up to a side door at the vacant house, where just an hour earlier investigators cut a wall open from the inside

by Anonymousreply 10401/14/2020

It appears to be true. Right now they're just saying he "was recovered." They will confirm the details at noon.

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by Anonymousreply 10501/14/2020

Did they need a search warrant or permission from somebody to search the abandoned house? How long does that normally take to get? I just can't imagine why they wouldn't search it a long time ago if they knew it was there.

by Anonymousreply 10601/14/2020

Could he have been hiding in the attic but fell and was trapped between walls? That happened to a woman in Austin. Her body wasn't discovered for a long time.

Neighborhood kids usually know the abandoned houses. We did. We thought Icabod Crane lived in one.

I hope he wasn't sexually assaulted and murdered. Very sad either way.

I think he must have died or been trapped soon after disappearing, unless the water was still running at the house. He most certainly had OCD to be taking 5 baths a day.

by Anonymousreply 10701/14/2020

His body was apparently sealed inside a wall. Reminds me of something out of an Edgar Allan Poe story.

by Anonymousreply 10801/14/2020

Woman's bones found behind wall.

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by Anonymousreply 10901/14/2020

Here is another woman who died by falling through an attic and becoming trapped behind a wall.

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by Anonymousreply 11001/14/2020

The ownership of the house is disputed.

Some neighbors said, the owners stay in the Summer and leave over the Winter and come back in the Spring. Other neighbors have been saying it's vacant and still others say abandoned. All those things are different.

If it was known to be unoccupied, the neighborhood kids probably use it to do drugs and have sex in. Harley was a pocket gay (you can just tell) so that is what he was doing and explains a lot. Of course no one will ever admit that.

The cops will be embarrassed they didn't search earlier so they already have covered up hours now, so they can "produce" evidence that the body was put their recently.

This was undoubtedly a murder by an Internet boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 11101/14/2020

[quote]the day HD went missing (DEC 20th) so did 4 other teen boys

420,000 kids go missing every year. Statistically, 23 kids disappeared from Ohio that day.

What you found isn't of any significance at all.

by Anonymousreply 11201/14/2020

All those other children were found alive.

Contrary to popular belief most missing kids run away.

by Anonymousreply 11301/14/2020

[quote]A kid who feels safer at school than in his own home is in need of help.

His family were ill-equipped to handle his autism and he wasn't equipped with the ability to process stress in a "normal" way. It's very common and makes for a difficult and combustible situation.

I don't necessarily see them as abusers so much as people who had intellectual struggles themselves, and our society doesn't provide much support for people in that situation.

Time will tell, though.

by Anonymousreply 11401/14/2020

R112 were any of those four boys found? Who are they?

by Anonymousreply 11501/14/2020

Someone said it could've been accidental. They got stuck behind a wall.

How does one get stuck behind a wall? I didn't realize walls had space behind them? Is this a thing?

by Anonymousreply 11601/14/2020

R111, From what I have read it is right across the street from his house. I still think the parents have something to do with it judging by what we know about them. They seem to have a really toxic relationship with him.

by Anonymousreply 11701/14/2020

[quote]His family were ill-equipped to handle his autism and he wasn't equipped with the ability to process stress in a "normal" way. It's very common and makes for a difficult and combustible situation.

The only proof we have of his "autism" is his mother. And she said he was autistic and "not highly functioning." Bullshit, look at his videos, he functions very fine and isn't autistic a bit . She also claimed he was seeing a psychiatrist, another bullshit. He may have had a therapist, but a psychiatrist is an MD or DO and are extremely expensive and usually only consulted to prescribe meds. (Psychologists which are not physicians can prescribe meds in some states but not Ohio). I think the mother gets a lot confused. Plus about eight months ago she had a stroke and heart attack so that may affect her as well

by Anonymousreply 11801/14/2020

Poor Dilly. What an awful thing.

by Anonymousreply 11901/14/2020

so sorry for this boy. he just didn’t have the best break/luck in his short life. some seems to have it all but sadly he’s not among them. RIP.

by Anonymousreply 12001/14/2020

You can use this site for information on other missing children.

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by Anonymousreply 12101/14/2020

I don't know how dysfunctional his life was.

He was definitely a drama queen. There is a video where his parents are arguing in the background and instead of cutting it, he goes out of his way to explain his father is being an asshole and then at the end he is like, "I better shut this off and see what's up." Like he's the big hero or something.

When he gets locked out for an hour or breaks his phone and his parents won't get him a new one and so on, he plays for sympathy. Which, considering we are now a nation of professional victims isn't unheard of, but who knows what his life was like? You only have his videos which are click bait.

by Anonymousreply 12201/14/2020

R114 Did you watch the video where Harley is gaming and you hear his parents fighting in the background? His dad is a dick. The dad was upset that the 4 yr old kid had done something. The mom isn't a prize either but I have more empathy for her than the dad.

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by Anonymousreply 12301/14/2020

r123

So why didn't he turn the video off? Because he wants to show the world how "abused" he is. Every single parent of a four year old has thought that, he just said it

And again, why broadcast it? Shut or at least mute it. No, Harley was a drama queen. He's hardly the abused boy everyone is making him out to be.

by Anonymousreply 12401/14/2020

Investigators have a drone up over the house in Port Clinton where they searched for Harley Dilly. They’re looking at the chimney.

Sounds like a Santa Claus thing. Maybe he thought he could hide out in the chimney.

by Anonymousreply 12501/14/2020

R125 That crossed my mind. There are a handful of cases where people die after trying to break in a house through the chimney.

I wonder if he got hung up on the flue.

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by Anonymousreply 12601/14/2020

Wouldn't someone hear him calling for help if he were stuck in the chimney? Maybe he hit his head going down or something cut off his windpipe.

by Anonymousreply 12701/14/2020

Reporter states that house was searched because Police Chief saw a lock box on the home, realized it was empty and decided to search. The home is diagonally visible from HD's home. Reporter also states that he "thinks" most activity was happening on 2nd floor of home.

WEWS Scott Knoll also says police asked him not to share details of what was found. Said house has been empty for about 10 yrs. Says no one had permission to be inside house. He was last at home in mid-November.

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by Anonymousreply 12801/14/2020

Wasn't his coat found in a closet, though?

by Anonymousreply 12901/14/2020

The coat was right up front visible in the window.

So either he was dumped there. Or the cop found the coat, picked it up and put it on the door so it could be seen. But would they do that and potentially contaminated evidence?

The cops were insisting until after midnight there was no body, so that means they were lying or else it was undiscovered till then.

Then they blocked the view brought an ambulance and left. By 3am the sister was already blabing he's dead and the police chief still won't admit it, though they say on other sites Harley is recovered. If he was alive they'd say so.

by Anonymousreply 13001/14/2020

Maybe he got in the house through the chimney but later fell through the attic or a floor in between two walls and got stuck.

Wouldn't a search dog pick up his scent fro his house to the vacant house?

by Anonymousreply 13101/14/2020

Dogs are not reliable. A study showed they were only right about 47% of the time. This has become a big issue as the US Supreme Court has ruled dogs are reliable enough to allow searches without a warrant, when in reality, they are right less than half the time.

by Anonymousreply 13201/14/2020

[quote]He's hardly the abused boy everyone is making him out to be.

wtf, r124? His short life was hardly pleasant, and now he's dead. What the hell is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 13301/14/2020

R132 If I ever went missing, I would want a bloodhound to search for me over a German Shepherd.

by Anonymousreply 13401/14/2020

r134

Actually it's funny you mentioned that. Bloodhounds are the best breed at smelling but they have a peculiar trait. They lose interest very quickly. In England they have contests and quite often the bloodhound will be first on the trail, then just quit right before finding the object.

That is one of two problems with using dogs. They get bored fast. A dog uses his nose to sniff out food or weak prey. Dogs typically are well fed so this becomes a game to them. They also use their nose to sniff out sexual partners, which again, if it doesn't happen or they are desexed, they don't care and lose interest

The other hot issue is dogs love to please their owner and if they find themselves frustrated will often take a subtle cue from their handler, which can be wrong, simply to please him.

by Anonymousreply 13501/14/2020

r133

How so? His parents argued? What else? They locked him out of the house for an hour? This kid had phones, computers, was well fed, was receiving medical and psychological help if he needed it. Did you watch his videos, there is one where instead of doing his homework he is in class streaming and smirking and bragging about it.

Sounds like Harley was more than a handful. No one is happy that he is dead but just because someone dies does not turn them into an angel that is innocent.

by Anonymousreply 13601/14/2020

Seems like a pretty normal 14 year old to me.

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by Anonymousreply 13701/14/2020

Here is a link to the press conference if anyone cares..

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by Anonymousreply 13801/14/2020

Here is a link to the press conference if anyone cares..

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by Anonymousreply 13901/14/2020

No cause of death is firm, but it appears to be an accident.

Harley climbed down the chimney and got stuck.

by Anonymousreply 14001/14/2020

What a horrible way to die. That poor kid.

by Anonymousreply 14101/14/2020

Believing an obviously troubled teen when he says he's the victim is foolish. Tensions in the house brought on by mental, emotional or behavioral problems don't prove that the parents murdered the kid.

The transcript of his video at R6 indicates he was unable to explain a situation in a way that made sense, and honestly it sounds like he's lying. It sounds like he pitched a fit, his mom dropped him off at home like he asked her to, then he invented the whole thing about the cops and the vice principal, or perhaps was referring to a separate incident and has conflated them all together. Plus he refers to having to "stick with the story" until tomorrow, which is a little suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 14201/14/2020

Let it go r142, he's dead, go ahead and celebrate.. in silence.

by Anonymousreply 14301/14/2020

Here's an article about how you can get stuck in a chimney and what likely causes death

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by Anonymousreply 14401/14/2020

The press conference details:

Harley Dilly was recovered last evening at 507 Fulton St

Multiple leads were exhausted. Yesterday afternoon, a repeated canvas of the neighborhood, led investigators to the house. House has previously been checked multiple times

Windows were locked, doors secured, lockbox on rear door, no evidence of forced entry

Pursued entry into the house

Entered at 16:10 hours and searched

Harley's coat, glasses were discovered on second floor, next to brick chimney

Discovered Harley caught in chimney

Family notified and it appears to be accident

No foul play expected, autopsy being conducted this morning

Appears Harley climbed antenna tower to roof and entered chimney

Once in the chimney, glasses and jacket were pushed from the chimney through a flue into the second floor of the house

Chimney was blocked between second and first floor and trapped Harley

Chimney is 9x13 inches in size

by Anonymousreply 14501/14/2020

poor kid. Horrific.

by Anonymousreply 14601/14/2020

"positional asphyxia," a condition in which the contortion of your body prevents the normal in-and-out motions of your diaphragm. In other words: if you don't get out of that position, you're going to die from lack of oxygen. And, in a chimney, there's not enough room to get out of that position.

by Anonymousreply 14701/14/2020

So sad for Harley. I was hoping he wouldn't be another to turn up dead.

by Anonymousreply 14801/14/2020

More about his being stuck in the chimney. It's hard to believe that the police didn't spot his coat and glasses by the fireplace during the initial search of the house.

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by Anonymousreply 14901/14/2020

So what was he doing in that house anyway? Did he normally go there or was this the first time? Did he go there to escape after a fight with his parents (or after a fight they had with each other which upset him)?

by Anonymousreply 15001/14/2020

Sounds like he was going to lead a very tortured life no matter what but his way of death is horrifying.

by Anonymousreply 15101/14/2020

He's not Santa Claus so he shouldn't be trying to get in houses through chimneys. What if someone killed him first and then put his body in there?

by Anonymousreply 15201/14/2020

So sad. I've heard several chimney death stories. Parents need to warn their kids about this like it's the new refrigerator door seal. Santa can only do it because he's magic...

by Anonymousreply 15301/14/2020

And yet we were robbed of another future potential datalounger.

by Anonymousreply 15401/14/2020

He's Baby Jessica of our generation.

by Anonymousreply 15501/14/2020

Fwiw, here's the official word. Looks like he tried to enter the house through the chimney, got stuck and asphyxiated. An awful way to go.

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by Anonymousreply 15601/14/2020

Huh. Weird. The previous 22 posts didn't appear to me til after I posted r156. Sorry for the redundancy.

by Anonymousreply 15701/14/2020

What would he want to go in there for? It sounds to me like he may have gotten in a fight with his parents or something on the night he disappeared so he wanted to run away just far enough to scare them. Then he tried to get into the abandoned house across the street through the chimney since the doors and windows were locked and got himself stuck in there. That is how I imagine the scenario anyway. I may be wrong entirely.

by Anonymousreply 15801/14/2020

R158 He’s a kid. Kids find places to muck around in. An empty house is a magnet to kids. I used to play in laneways. Play in abandoned house blocks and abandoned , rusted out old cars. I would have loved an empty house to hang out in.

I can’t tell you the number of times I was approached by a creepy stranger, but being a kid, I thought I was smarter, could run faster. I didn’t dare tell my parents, because they wouldn’t have let me out the house. My freedom to do as I pleased was more important. That’s how kids think.

by Anonymousreply 15901/14/2020

Sounds to me like was held prisoner in the house and tried to escape OUT the chimney. Shedding his coat and glasses before the attempt.

But they won't investigate that. It will just be candles, teddy bears and prayers.

by Anonymousreply 16001/14/2020

The theory is he dropped his coat and glasses down to see if there was a clear way to the bottom. Both of them fell clean through. But when Harley went down he got stuck. There is one chimney but TWO fireplaces one on the first floor and one on the second floor. The second floor one is behind drywall and that is where he got stuck.

I still think he was testing if he'd be able to do it. That way if he could he could later on film himself for a YouTube video. He said in one of his vids he was hoping to get a camcorder for Christmas.

by Anonymousreply 16101/14/2020

Seems a little odd that he was reportedly OCD about his hygiene yet willingly climbed into what would likely be a filthy old chimney.

by Anonymousreply 16201/14/2020

I don't think he was in the bathroom that much to get clean. He was either using it to film videos (he did film one of himself in a bathtub) or else doing what teen boys do in the bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 16301/14/2020

I think the bathing was more to calm down than get clean. A repetition. Ritual.

by Anonymousreply 16401/14/2020

R161, That explanation makes sense. In case his parents ever happen to read this, I want to apologize for automatically assuming foul play and that the they were involved. I know that losing their child must be bad enough and then all the accusations being thrown left and right on top of that. I can't even imagine. It is just those videos and that parents have murdered their children in fits of rage so many times before. It is easy to jump to conclusions.

Now that most of the facts have come out, I have changed my mind. Harley's life may have not been the most pleasant at times, but maybe the parents just did things the only way they knew how. I am sure they loved them in their own way, they are devastated, and I wish them the best as they get through this tough time.

by Anonymousreply 16501/14/2020

Did I ever tell you about the time I was held hostage by a canal of satanists and elder-traffickers in Bellagio’s handicapped stall?

I tried to squeeze my enormous ass under the door to escape and I got wedged in, but that isn’t the worst of it. You won’t [italic]believe[/italic] what happened next!

by Anonymousreply 16601/14/2020

It was actually a cabal, not a canal.

The canal was when I was held hostage in a handicapped stall at the Venetian.

by Anonymousreply 16701/14/2020

R160 you're a goddamned moron.

by Anonymousreply 16801/14/2020

I hate this fucking story so much. This poor boy, and his parents. Not to mention how it brought out the drooling, idiot Trump supporting sex trafficking morons.

14 is no age to leave this Earth. The universe sucks.

by Anonymousreply 16901/14/2020

R166 Did it end in a threesome with Suzanne Somers and Alan Hamel?

by Anonymousreply 17001/14/2020

r169 Well he was old enough to know better. I noticed how you say you are SO UPSET by the story yet still find enough time to slam Trump.

If you were truly as upset as you claim, that wouldn't have crossed your mind. Typical DL always have to make it about yourself.

by Anonymousreply 17101/14/2020

Harley's four year old brother is actually his nephew. When his sister couldn't take care of him, Harley's parents legally adopted him.

by Anonymousreply 17201/14/2020

We need a Tasteful Friends thread on the house.

Would you live there, then? Now?

by Anonymousreply 17301/14/2020

[quote]R162 Seems a little odd that he was reportedly OCD about his hygiene yet willingly climbed into what would likely be a filthy old chimney.

Was perhaps being chased by aliens.

by Anonymousreply 17401/14/2020

R171 Hey dumbass Trump supporter- idiotic, pizzagate, insane child trafficking theories are all over this thread. That's why it was on my mind. One can hold two thoughts at once. Shocking to lowlife Trump supporters like you, I know.

by Anonymousreply 17501/14/2020

r175

LOL, the guy replies and he STILL makes it all about him. Stop being so self-centered.

by Anonymousreply 17601/14/2020

I wonder if Dilly's parents will sue the owner of the house? I bet they will. Instead they should be charged with neglect and pay the owner of that house for the damaged chimney. Also they should cover the cost of the search as well, since their kid left of his own choice.

by Anonymousreply 17701/14/2020

The house was unoccupied for ten years and the owner was renovating it. So I doubt the chimney was that dirty. But then again, maybe it was.

The owner said he was last at the house in Nov 2019. Dilly went missing on Dec 20th.

I bet that kid used to climb up the antenna farm to the roof and there was an unsecured window up there. Then he'd go in and use the house.

But this time when he ditched school to go there, the owner had secured the windows on his last visit. So now Dilly was on the roof and couldn't get in, so he tried the chimney.

by Anonymousreply 17801/14/2020

The should sue fucking Bob Rivers, that's who they should sue!

While we're at it, any word on the contents of his iPod?

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by Anonymousreply 17901/14/2020

R178 You could be on to something there.

by Anonymousreply 18001/14/2020

this is an excellent video that explains why Harley thought he could get down that chimney and why he failed but his glasses and jacket made it through

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by Anonymousreply 18101/14/2020

I'm guessing he didn't see Gremlins. Phoebe Cates' monologue scared me from ever attempting crawling down a fireplace. Poor kid.

by Anonymousreply 18201/14/2020

Poor kid wasn’t very bright. But what was going on that he felt enough urgency to get into that house that he was willing to get onto the roof and crawl into a chimney? I guess it was the week of Christmas so maybe all the Santa imagery made it seem like a viable point of entry. Not a bright kid.

by Anonymousreply 18301/15/2020

I feel bad for him. Obviously a Napoleon complex and he wanted to be cool. Now forever he'll be known as the fool who got stuck in a chimney. Especially since this happened at Christmas, in years to come he'll be a foolish lesson people will warn their kids about.

by Anonymousreply 18401/15/2020

R183 and you, in addition to not being a bright adult, are a terrible human being.

by Anonymousreply 18501/15/2020

His parents killed him and stuffed him in that chimney. No way did he climb down it.

by Anonymousreply 18601/16/2020

I believe the child was retarded.

by Anonymousreply 18701/16/2020

R136 Thank you for finally saying what no one on this entire thread had enough heartlessness to say!

by Anonymousreply 18801/16/2020

r188

The kid was charged with organizing a fight and selling tickets so he could watch him get beat up.

He was in so much trouble with the law, he even admits the next time he was going to Juvenile Hall for 30 days. And his grandfather was a cop.

No one wanted him dead but he was no angel and by watching videos he clearly manipulated his viewers.

It's not a matter of heartlessness to tell the truth. I guess you would rather not mention things like the Holocaust. We already have enough shit covered up such as the indigenous populations causing extinctions, no one will talk about because it's not politically correct.

The bottom line is they DID do it, and this kid is not the innocent child everyone is projecting him to be.

by Anonymousreply 18901/16/2020

R189 fuck you, you moron. He was a troubled kid, and he died in a horrific way. If it somehow makes you feel good to be all high and mighty about that just after the discovery of his body, you're mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 19001/16/2020

He’s hot!! Can’t wait till he’s 18 so I can drool all over him ❤️

by Anonymousreply 19101/16/2020

Think the value of that house went up or down after this shit? Hell no would I ever sleep in that place. That Harley Dilly ghost would show no mercy.

by Anonymousreply 19201/16/2020

How big are the chimneys in USA? A person can actually fit in a chimney?

by Anonymousreply 19301/16/2020

The kid was a troublemaker. He deserved to die. He would have gone on to a life of crime.

by Anonymousreply 19401/16/2020

The kid was missing for nearly a month and no-one thought to look in the empty house across the street?!

by Anonymousreply 19501/16/2020

I can’t imagine the stench when they found the little brat.

by Anonymousreply 19601/16/2020

R195 - I don’t think they truly “wanted” to find the little brat.

by Anonymousreply 19701/16/2020

He was a hooligan., pure and simple.

by Anonymousreply 19801/16/2020

He was a no good autistic brat

by Anonymousreply 19901/16/2020

They should have lit a fire in the fireplace and had a cremation. Easy-Peazy and almost free!!

by Anonymousreply 20001/16/2020

He was disposable......er actually, combustible 😂 🔥

by Anonymousreply 20101/16/2020

He was disposable......er actually, combustible 😂 🔥

by Anonymousreply 20201/16/2020

[quote]He was a hooligan., pure and simple.

Don't be silly, holograms can't get stuck.

by Anonymousreply 20301/16/2020

So he tried to get in the house by using the chimney? Why did he want to go in the house? He must have really wanted to go there BAD if he tried to get in through a chimney. And I know he was a kid but how could he have been THAT stupid? Did he think he'd go down the chimney the way the Grinch did? This is just so nuts.

by Anonymousreply 20401/16/2020

Of course it's nuts, it didn't happen.

The parents waited 41 hours (that we know of) to report him missing. It probably was longer. Someone; his mother, his father, his Internet boyfriend, snuffed him out and stuffed him in that chimney. I bet that kid had an online gay romance and was using that house as a rendezvous. Or his parents could get in.

Either way there has only been ONE other recorded teen death via "stuck in chimney" and that one was murder.

(Note: There have been accidental chimney deaths in adults though)

by Anonymousreply 20501/17/2020

People get stuck in chimneys coming down them.

How does one get stuck going up?

by Anonymousreply 20601/17/2020

r206

Most modern chimneys twist and/or turn and you can get your hand or head stuck very easily. Like when Julia got her head stuck in the staircase.

I agree this was a murder / stuffing.

by Anonymousreply 20701/18/2020

In this video, a chimney expert explains how Harley got stuck.

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by Anonymousreply 20801/18/2020

Why would he be climbing UP a chimney?

His stuff was found in the house so he was already inside.

Somebody offed that brat.

by Anonymousreply 20901/18/2020

R209, Supposedly he dropped his stuff down the chimney first to see if it would go down as a test to see if he could. But if the video in R208 is right and the opening was 6 inches, I wonder how a heavy winter coat could have fit through a 6 inch opening without having to physically push it through. I will be very interested to find out if the autopsy shows anything.

by Anonymousreply 21001/18/2020

Oh, the autopsy report was already released I see. Never mind. I still think something is fishy about this story, though, whether they say it is an accident or not. But it seems like nothing will ever come of it. He is just a kid from a poor, white trash family who didn't appear to have many friends so it probably isn't important enough to really investigate. Seems like they just want to wash their hands of the whole thing and move on.

by Anonymousreply 21101/18/2020

Was his jacket covered with soot?

How did a jacket, dropped from above, get passed the flue?

None of this washes. He was killed and somebody stuffed him in there to hide his body.

The question is, if he was killed, why would you leave his jacket and glasses out in the open?

I doubt we'll ever know as the authorities, as mentioned above, seem to be done with this.

Very fishy.

by Anonymousreply 21201/18/2020

I live in the Cleveland area, and most of the local stations here were done with this story the day after his body was found.

Fucking tragic. He seemed to have lived such a sad life at home, and then to die the way he did.

RIP Harley.

BTW, I hate that fucking police chief. Asshole.

by Anonymousreply 21301/18/2020

Everyone is projecting that dude was sweet and innocent.

I bet the parents of those two kids he set up to have a fight weren't so convinced of this.

And his "I'm so scared" clickbait video only shows you lot were had by a 14 year old boy.

He was nowhere near as dumb or naive as you all claim and certainly not innocent.

by Anonymousreply 21401/19/2020

How would a murderer get a dead body in a chimney without a ladder? And how do you get 100 lbs of dead-weight up a ladder without anyone seeing?

There are a hundred other, better ways to hide a dead teenager.

The kid was impulsive and stupid. He put himself there.

by Anonymousreply 21501/19/2020

R215 Actual the phrase is usually 101, there are “101 Better Ways to Hide a Dead Teenager.” Perhaps, there is a new holiday serial killer who each year will dispose of someone in a Christmas themed related way?

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by Anonymousreply 21601/19/2020

You don't need a ladder to go up a chimney from inside a house.

He didn't come down the chimney, he went up it.

by Anonymousreply 21701/19/2020

R217 Was it done by laying a finger aside of his nose?

by Anonymousreply 21801/19/2020

Putting a dead body up a chimney from the inside is even more difficult than dropping one down from the top. And the house doesn’t have fireplaces.

by Anonymousreply 21901/19/2020

[quote]He didn't come down the chimney, he went up it.

Wasn't he trying to get into the house?

by Anonymousreply 22001/19/2020

R220 Yes. Police think Harley climbed up the antenna on the side of the house. I imagine they have his dna on the antenna.

I wonder if he was able to yell for help and no one heard him . Or was it like that college kid who got trapped in his the mini van's trunk by the backseat folding down on him?

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by Anonymousreply 22101/19/2020

If he went down the chimney and got stuck, how was his stuff (glasses and jacket) in the house?

I'm not being snarky, it just doesn't make sense.

And I agree with the above poster that the kid was trouble/troubled.

Why did it take the parents so long to report him missing?

by Anonymousreply 22201/19/2020

I could understand the glasses making their way thru the chimney - but the jacket? Wouldn’t it just get stuck?

I have very old fireplace/chimneys (150 years old) and the back to back fireplaces in the dining and living room both have an angled ledge Inside that makes the entry into the actual fireplace much smaller than the chimney (if that even makes sense). A jacket would get stuck there.

by Anonymousreply 22301/19/2020

Now that he's an angel with a nice set of wings, he'll never get stuck anywhere again.

by Anonymousreply 22401/20/2020

Even his own mother wrote a note that said basically, "It was his stupid choice, he's dead, nothing more to see."

by Anonymousreply 22501/20/2020

R225 did she really? Where did she post that? It seems pretty heartless coming from his mother.

by Anonymousreply 22601/20/2020

R226, Here is an article containing her post.

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by Anonymousreply 22701/20/2020

Yikes. Her post is pretty bad.

by Anonymousreply 22801/20/2020

Why would he drop his glasses down there? They would probably break if he dropped them, and then he’d get in trouble with his parents. Plus he couldn’t see. How bad was his eyesight? If it was bad, no one would drop their glasses and hope they didn’t break. That makes no sense. And he couldn’t have taken off the glasses and coat once he was in.

If it was compression suffocation, that’s like Anton Yelchin, the Star Trek actor that was pinned by a car and couldn’t escape. He was slowly suffocated by the weight of the car. But being stuck in a compressed space must have been even worse.

I wonder if the parents knew he hid regularly in that house, didn’t want to tell anyone because they didn’t want to be liable, and then he may have been killed by the parents and they dropped him down the chimney. If he’d ever been in the house before, he’d probably know there was no fireplace on that floor.

If he did go on his own, he may have been trying to escape the cold, and thought once he was in, he could leave the door unlocked. But nobody’s going through a chimney without becoming very dirty. He couldn’t hide it.

by Anonymousreply 22901/20/2020

Same here, #222. How did his puffy winter jacket just slide down the chimney like butter? Why would he need to take his glasses off?

I think he was trying to get OUT of the house.

by Anonymousreply 23001/20/2020

There are a ton of crazies with conspiracy theories about this in Facebook groups. Nobody put this kid’s body down the chimney. That’s ridiculous. The most reasonable explanation I have read is that the kid looked down the chimney and saw light and assumed there was a fireplace there. He dropped his coat down and saw it wasn’t that far to the light and figured he could get down there and he’d have plenty of room once he reached the fireplace to crawl out. Once he actually got down there and found that there was only an opening that he would never for through, he panicked. Probably kicked the jacket out of the hole hoping someone would find it. The hole was too tight to extend his limbs to climb and he suffocated. I don’t think he was dumb enough to go headfirst, but that would have killed him even faster. I feel sorry for the poor kid- I have never seen a chimney lead to just an 8 inch diameter hole until this happened.

by Anonymousreply 23101/20/2020

[quote]r228 Yikes. Her post is pretty bad.

I think she sounds like a realist, myself.

[quote] “He isn’t a runaway, or abducted, kidnapped, or missing… he is found and dead!,” Heather continued in her post. “Today we had to go make arrangements at a funeral home for our son, our 14 year old. Who made a choice. He made the choice to climb the antenna of an abandoned home, walk across a roof, to a chimney and attempted to climb down. ... There he would of been able to view me leaving every Friday as I do running errands,” Heather continued. “The decision he made, he probably got the idea off all that ‘gaming’ he did with Fortnite. How they climb up things to go into abandoned homes to get treasures. He is gone.”

by Anonymousreply 23201/20/2020

[quote]R229 Why would he drop his glasses down there? They would probably break if he dropped them, and then he’d get in trouble with his parents. Plus he couldn’t see. How bad was his eyesight? If it was bad, no one would drop their glasses and hope they didn’t break. That makes no sense.

The glasses might have fallen off his face on their own while he was looking down the chimney to see if the coat he dropped went through.

by Anonymousreply 23301/20/2020

Stuck on you

Been a fool to long I guess it's time for me to come on home

Guess I'm on my way

So hard to see....

by Anonymousreply 23401/21/2020

Except, R231, there was no fireplace. And that leaves me wondering what that chimney opened up to inside the house. All I've ever seen is a little cleanout door to the chimney, located in the basement. Something isn't right here. This kid did not die by misadventure. Someone else had to be involved.

by Anonymousreply 23501/23/2020

Visitation on Sat, private funeral at a later date.

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by Anonymousreply 23601/23/2020

I'm sure he'd be disgusted being mentioned on a eldergay gossip site.

by Anonymousreply 23701/23/2020

#237

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by Anonymousreply 23801/23/2020

The day this boy went missing the mother was at some joint slugging down long island iced tea's (drunk's paycheck treat...like bum wine) She posted the pic of the drink and captioned, "ahhh....just what mama needed." I think that's fucked out. Almost 3 days to report the kid missing. The father went to the police station around midnight into Sunday...with a million different excuses as to why he took so long to report him missing. The kid told his mum he was feeling really sick and her response to the police was, "OH YEAH SURE GET YOUR ASS TO SCHOOL" There is the video of the boy freezing and his mother would lock him out and ignore his calls. The school called twice and she never called them back. The kids in the neighborhood, as well as the adults seem to have a lot of compassion for the boy. Someone started a gofundme account and it was pushing 20k until the information was made public it seemed the locals had a lot of compassion for the boy and tolerated his family. Now they are bullshit because $$$ has been coming in nationwide and in particular the UK. There is a lot finger pointing coming from his family ie the school should have kept calling me, the kid was trouble...blah blah blah...There was something with the family and the police prohibiting the huge search party even though he'd been gone 3 days when the news picked up the story. The kids in the school are saying he would often go the if there was 'something going down' at his house. The mother donated boxes of boy's clothes to the local church doing the search...On a personal note, anyone here have sibling troublemakers? Parent troublemakers? The kid seemed to be desperate for love and attention...and his manipulative mother would threaten to call the cops on him when he would get upset, She WOULD call the cops on him to keep him in line. A few said the police were reluctant to keep taking him from the home as dss failed to see the extreme signs of adhd and autism. Christ, i still have adhd and if that kid was locked out (like in that video) and he was on medicine...when you start to get distracted and such...it's a nightmare. Take it from a guy pushing 40 that still needs ritalin a couple of times a day. When you are 14 you're hormones are raging and he obviously didn't have support enough at home to feel safe enough to express himself that he went to the vice principal? My gosh...he was crying out for attention...so i get selling tickets to a fight. Couldn't be that crazy...my growth spurt shot up at 14. He was 4'9"! His voice didn't change. What's the deal with his sister? I don't know, I'm still suffering from Chris Watts. Computer baby. His closest saftey net was a digital line...

by Anonymousreply 23901/27/2020

If the mother donated the kids' clothes while the search was still on she knew he was dead.

Also, a jacket coming down a chimney would be soot covered and glasses don't jump up on tables by themselves.

He was dead/killed and stuffed up the chimney.

by Anonymousreply 24001/28/2020

R240. That absolutely did not happen. There was no place to stuff him up. The chimney did not end in a fireplace as you are imaging it, and as I imagined it until I saw what people were talking about. Some chimneys have only a small 8 inch diameter hole to put a vent. This was the case here. He went down the chimney expecting to come out through a fireplace- but there was only a hole.

by Anonymousreply 24101/28/2020

The family demanded the owner of the house remove the chimney, that their stupid kid climbed into.

You can bet they didn't reimburse the family for the cost of repair to the chimney for the damage the cops did

by Anonymousreply 24201/29/2020

How then did his glasses and jacket get inside the house?

And what about the clothing donations?

If he didn't get stuffed up the chimney (and I absolutely believe you about the "hole") Then what really happened?

I still think this is fishy.

by Anonymousreply 24301/29/2020

R243 You are a moron.

by Anonymousreply 24402/19/2020

Scared of you miss anonymous r244.

So what's your theory?

Name calling without back up is just sad, even for here.

by Anonymousreply 24502/19/2020

OP Harley...is that you?

by Anonymousreply 24602/19/2020
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