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Are we witnessing the endgame of Hollywood?

Remakes, sequels, and re-boots, oh my! These things have always existed as long as there have been movies, but they have never been as ubiquitous as they are now. The studio system as we know it is dead. It has been dead for 50 years. Even what took its place is now being pushed aside in the age of #MeToo. How much worse does mainstream entertainment have to get before the public says enough is enough? I’m almost afraid to answer that question because I am sure they will take that as a challenge.

by Anonymousreply 41December 24, 2019 4:56 PM

bollywood will replace hollywood in next 30 years

by Anonymousreply 1December 24, 2019 1:18 AM

No one wants to watch Bollywood movies.

by Anonymousreply 2December 24, 2019 1:28 AM

No one wants to watch Bollywood movies.

by Anonymousreply 3December 24, 2019 1:28 AM

Old men yelling at clouds always makes me smile.

by Anonymousreply 4December 24, 2019 1:33 AM

OP, even Spielberg and Lucas have been predicting the demise of the film industry for years. The high cost of filmmaking has made the studios even less willing to take risks, so they keep churning out the same superhero crap over and over again.

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by Anonymousreply 5December 24, 2019 1:39 AM

Did you see the date on your article? Do you you know where 2019 ranks among movie theater attendance in the last twenty years? Do you know how many films from this year are in Imdb's top 250 not counting Avengers? Keep yelling. The gods will eventually hear you

by Anonymousreply 6December 24, 2019 1:49 AM

I think Christopher Nolan has another original blockbuster coming up.

But that’s rare.

by Anonymousreply 7December 24, 2019 1:51 AM

What will Bollywood make without Hollywood to copy?

by Anonymousreply 8December 24, 2019 1:52 AM

hollywood is like madonna - it ran out of original ideas decades ago and has been churning out reductive garbage thinking anyone still cares.

by Anonymousreply 9December 24, 2019 2:09 AM

Yeah, it's because you and I are afraid to write!

We have good ideas and we don't do it.

by Anonymousreply 10December 24, 2019 2:20 AM

R8 the movie where the kid was on the game show was pretty good.

The tiger movie was pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 11December 24, 2019 2:21 AM

Most people like the “crap” it seems

by Anonymousreply 12December 24, 2019 2:23 AM

Marvel movies are all the rage in China so they will keep churning out these shitty movies. Hollywood will cater more and more to the tastes of the Chinese market. Hopefully the Chinese middle class starts clamoring for some deep movies.

by Anonymousreply 13December 24, 2019 2:24 AM

If Hollywood movies go away, what will happen to the Broadway musical, which is anchored in re-made movies?

by Anonymousreply 14December 24, 2019 2:37 AM

OP, people were saying the same things 100 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 15December 24, 2019 2:41 AM

OP in the 1920s:

Talkies suck! Hollywood is over!

OP in the 1950s:

Movies are over, everyone watches tv now!

by Anonymousreply 16December 24, 2019 2:43 AM

There are many, many interesting films out there that you, sadly, won't see at the local multiplex. Foreign films; indies; weirdies...

I read "Sight & Sound" and "Film Comment" magazines and write down films they review. My city has a huge library system and- more often than not- they will have a film I'm looking for.

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by Anonymousreply 17December 24, 2019 3:53 AM

Those aren’t Bollywood movies, r8.

A Bollywood movie is in Hindi, it’s 3 hours long and has musical numbers.

Oh, and it plagiarizes the shit out of Hollywood blockbusters.

by Anonymousreply 18December 24, 2019 6:06 AM

I meant for r11.

by Anonymousreply 19December 24, 2019 6:07 AM

OP's "three things + 'oh my'" construction should be a guaranteed endgame — anyone who uses it should be killed on the spot.

by Anonymousreply 20December 24, 2019 6:13 AM

R17 I've been buying and reading Sight & Sound and Film Comment since the 1970s and I'm thinking of stopping soon because like cinema they have gone down hill and are a waste of money.

by Anonymousreply 21December 24, 2019 6:21 AM

Coming from Spielberg of all people is pretty rich.

by Anonymousreply 22December 24, 2019 6:26 AM

Hollywood will be consumed by Netflix and Amazon.

by Anonymousreply 23December 24, 2019 6:31 AM

I miss the studio system movies, and I love story movies. Not these big blockbusters which are overdone with special effects and CGI. I really miss the 20th century movie industry. Preferably the earlier part to mid century, into the 70s and 80s.

We need movie stars again. Everyone today just considers themselves working actors and not cinematic gods and goddesses etc. We still have a few, but not to many real genuine movie stars anymore. I think the internet has ruined a lot of the magic of Hollywood. We the public know way to much about our favorite "stars" now. The mystique is gone. We see them 24/7 now in real time on social media and were just not as excited anymore to see them as we use to be.

The magic is gone. For now anyway. I think that's why I appreciate networks like TCM so much. Real talent, real stars, and great stories in cinematic form. Hollywood needs to get back to telling really good well written stories again, and get away from all of this trilogy bullshit. It's fucking tiresome at this point.

I prefer 20th century Hollywood. The 21st century isn't cutting it for me.

by Anonymousreply 24December 24, 2019 7:55 AM

R2 not true, Bollywood movies have quietly entered China and they were well received by Chinese audience. No, they are not the stereotype singing and dancing trope or slumdog millionaire hollywood production. Taking Aamir Khan's movies, performed well overseas particular in China, Khan is a super star there, his 2016 movie Dangal broke all sorts of box office records, the first Indian movie to gross $300 million worldwide, and China alone contributed a staggering number of $206 million, more than two thirds of its box office from China.

If you read hollywood reporting, you might think there are only two movie markets - US and China, and both markets are dominated by superheroes or action stars, non-hollywood/european productions might have trouble entering US mainstream, but in China, they have plenty of room for indian movies, or even movies from small countries like Thailand (Bad Genius) and Lebanon (Capernaum), both achieved big success in China.

R13 I don't think you read the latest box office number from China, the change of taste already happened, China's 2019 box office number hits all time high, but guess what, 8 of the top 10 biggest films are Chinese local productions, they have nothing to do with marvel or hollywood. I think NYT had a piece last month saying Hollywood already in panic mode.

by Anonymousreply 25December 24, 2019 7:56 AM

[quote] If Hollywood movies go away, what will happen to the Broadway musical, which is anchored in re-made movies?

Then they'll just have to go back to adapting books and plays like they used to.

by Anonymousreply 26December 24, 2019 10:02 AM

R20 should face death by the firing squad for advocating the genocide of gay men.

by Anonymousreply 27December 24, 2019 10:03 AM

[quote]Remakes, sequels, and re-boots, oh my!

You're a hack, OP.

Let's do lunch and discuss a three picture deal.

by Anonymousreply 28December 24, 2019 10:19 AM

All right, R28. Make reservations for lunch at Spago 25 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 29December 24, 2019 10:21 AM

Good meeting. We're in love with your script! Wouldn't change a thing! You're a genius. We just have a few notes.

by Anonymousreply 30December 24, 2019 10:46 AM

American cinema is dead, a victim of politics, finance and paucity of ideas. European cinema is heading in the same direction, with countries simply remaking popular films in their own language.

Cinema in South and East Asia continues to thrive because of politics, finance, and a poor, highly socially stratified/restricted population.

by Anonymousreply 31December 24, 2019 11:02 AM

Everything seems to be declining in western countries.

by Anonymousreply 32December 24, 2019 11:06 AM

[quote] We need movie stars again. Everyone today just considers themselves working actors and not cinematic gods and goddesses etc.

He’s right you know.

by Anonymousreply 33December 24, 2019 11:08 AM

[quote]We still have a few, but not to many real genuine movie stars anymore.

Oh, dear!

[quote]We the public know way to much about our favorite "stars" now.

Oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 34December 24, 2019 11:09 AM

It’s all gone downhill since they let that Gable feller say he doesn’t give a “damn” (gasp) in front of all those women.

by Anonymousreply 35December 24, 2019 11:11 AM

I'd say they had about 25 good years after that, R35.

by Anonymousreply 36December 24, 2019 11:15 AM

Artists will always find something way to work off or around the system. After the new American cinema, the independent cinema movement, we are due for the next artistic wave. Who knows what it might be?

by Anonymousreply 37December 24, 2019 11:16 AM

One of my favorite films of 2018 was "Leave No Trace". But it left no trace at the box office because Amurkkka wants cartoons, video game and Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.

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by Anonymousreply 38December 24, 2019 11:30 AM

Go on, OP, blame the Jews. You know you want to.

by Anonymousreply 39December 24, 2019 12:06 PM

The type of quality movie you're all yearning for is still being made. It's just ten hours long and comes in one hour chunks on Netflix and Amazon

by Anonymousreply 40December 24, 2019 12:17 PM

But r24 How do you put the genie back in the bottle and rediscover recreate that magic and mystique? I dont think its possible.

by Anonymousreply 41December 24, 2019 4:56 PM
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