Tammy: Justified and Ancient--what were you thinking???

I really like the song and the video.

Good for Tammy and yes she was/is well loved.

Dolly Parton covered this on her variety show many years ago. Does anyone have a link to this performance? Please!!

This was a hit at the gay clubs in the early 90s

Naomi Judd probably gave a hard pass on this one.

R1 Hi formerBHmanny, we cross paths again. I posted my Tina/Bowie story and about meeting Cyndi. I think Tammy did a good job and enjoyed that song. OP is a bitch. Great to hear from you again!

R4 Naomi Judd couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket. She’s the Momma Grifter to end all Grifters, standing there humming along while she milked her uber-talented daughter Wynonna’s voice for profit. Try to find a video of Naomi singing solo, hint: you cannot.

The song is great because it’s so bizarre and mixes so many styles and personas into one and the video was crazy. She said she wanted to do it because it seemed like fun, and it was.

Furthermore, it was a great move for her to do the song because it gave her her first Top 40 hit in over 20 years when it reached #11 in the US, and she was also on MTV for the first time ever.

I think if she had lived longer she would have tried more dance music in her career since country radio had long since quit playing her records before she did this.

Her vocals are even better in this live performance.

It is an unbelievably weird song

BUT

I love it so, so, so, so, SO much. AND it manages through its weirdness to stay fresh.

The first and only House/Rap/Country/African song?

J'adore the moo moo land!

muu muu

At least she had a sense of humor and knew how to have fun, unlike say Loretta Lynn.

Anyone here every make it to Muu Muu Land?

KLF said (after her death) that they had to piece her vocal together syllable by syllable because she was so out of it. They said it was very sad and not what they expected.

I thought this thread was about Tom Cruise.

For some of us this was the first time we'd even heard of Tammy Wynette. Not one of my favorite songs from KLF but I remember liking it when it came out.

[quote] KLF said (after her death) that they had to piece her vocal together syllable by syllable because she was so out of it. They said it was very sad and not what they expected.

Can you provide a link for that because I know some one who was friends of hers even staying at her house. Tammy was happy to do it, was one of her biggest sellers and was still touring through out the world and could handle a whole concert let alone a single song recording.

Loretta came straight from the wedding....

I thought Tammy had dropped the pills and booze by that point. She was in Betty Ford (with Stevie Nicks!) in 1986 and she was trying for a comeback with some new singles.

Tammy was a fighter and was trying something new and provocative, more than I can say for the other peroxided fluff heads in Nashville at the time.

R18 I find this hard to believe too for two reasons. One being that technology was not that advanced back then to even go to such extreme lengths on vocals, but also because as you can see in R8, you can tell she’s singing live and it sounds great.

At the time Tammy was like, "I had no idea what the hell I was singin' about, but I had a blast doin' it!"

R20 Tammy's issue was never booze. It wasn't even really pills, her problem was her last husband. She had over 26 major surgeries over her life and became addicted to painkillers as a result. What she needed was rest but, her last husband kept her doped out of mind and touring. By the end, she didn't even eat anymore, she was being fed by an IV drip, but he was still pushing her out onstage to perform. He squeezed every last dime out of her, and was already using her credit cards to by gifts for his next wife, while Tammy was on her deathbed. He also took advantage of her being drugged up to get her to sign a will that disinherited her children. Though, thanks to karma, God, or whatever, he got paid back when his next wife did the same thing to him before he died. She kept him drugged, ran around on him, and stole his children's inheritance. Sadly, though the bitch kept most of Tammy's memorabilia which ended up being lost in a fire.

KLF were big for a little while.

And good for Tammy for being able to experiment (and be successful at it)

KLF did almost the same thing with Tammy as Pet Shop Boys did with Liza M. and Dusty Springfield.

It used to be a classic party revver-upper. I hosted a collage party where the moment it played, everybody got up and danced. Yes, we were drunk and high.

er, collEge.

I loved KLF. This is not my favorite song of theirs but it was fun. Ah, memories...

Tammy was a simple country girl who lived an extraordinary life; she did well with her limited education and embraced most everyone. She was not a hoe like the Mandrell sisters and the Judds made her out to be.

So who or what was justified and who or what was ancient? And justified about what?

[quote]So who or what was justified and who or what was ancient?

The people of MuMu land.

R31 You had to be there, you’d never understand.

The KLF were huge here in the UK. They weren't really a group, more an art project. I'd think most British people wouldn't have heard of Tammy Wynette at the time but this made her a household name.

The KLF's White Room album was massive. The whole art project was to see how far they could take this whole joke (the nonsense about Mu Mu/Justified Ancients etc) but some of their stuff like 3AM Eternal and Last Train to Transcentral were genuine dance hits across Europe and of course they managed to rope in Tammy Wynette on their most successful song.

They famously burned a million pounds of the money they earned (though later admitted it was only about £100k). They made us all look a bit stupid, but at least we got some banging tunes out of it.

[quote] This is not my favorite song of theirs

They had more than one?

Tammy was a good girl that went bad and she proved it in this video

The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, furthermore known as the JAMs. And also known as The Time Lords.

3 A.M. Eternal

I love KLF. This is a very weird song but they were weird!

i love KLF too! Fishing in the rivers of life!

KLF’s gonna rock you!

I really liked her final studio album, Without Walls, where she did duets with Elton John, Lyle Lovett, Joe Diffie, Wynonna, Cliff Richard, Smokey Robinson, Aaron Neville, and my favorite Sting. Her duet of "Every Breath You Take," is my favorite version. Partly because it changes it from just the man stalking the woman, to basically two lovers refusing to let each other go.

I loved “Strangers Again”

Our Tammy....

I loved the song, the video and the live performance. Wynette was funny and game and down-to-earth (and high as a kite at times), and always put a brave face on despite the personal trouble she always had behind her door.

I like how the DLers here are similar to Trumpites in acting like their ignorance somehow is more valid than the knowledge others have.

Ignorance of KLF and their songs, Tammy's career, how this worked as camp, and so on.

Proud stupidity.

I absolutely love KLF in all of their incarnations (The Timelords, Justified Ancients of Mu Mu,...) They, along with Pet Shop Boys, rocked my adolescent pop world from 1986/7 to 1992. I feel like I could write an essay about how great they were both as pop stars (in Europe, at least) and art provocateurs.

[quote]I really liked her final studio album, Without Walls, where she did duets with Elton John, Lyle Lovett, Joe Diffie, Wynonna, Cliff Richard, Smokey Robinson, Aaron Neville, and my favorite Sting. Her duet of "Every Breath You Take," is my favorite version. Partly because it changes it from just the man stalking the woman, to basically two lovers refusing to let each other go.

That really is very good. I wonder, though, was it one of those duets where they each recorded their own part separately and it was combine electronically. They don't harmonize at all. It doesn't matter to me, just curious.

R31, Oh, please, gurl, don’t try to make it understandable. Ain’t no intellect here. Just go with it!

Great song:

She's no Minnie Driver.

3 a m eternal was number one on UK, and Last train to Trancentral and Justified and ancient peaked at 2.

They only had two pop hits on US airplay, 3 a m eternal that peaked at 15 and Justified and ancient that peaked at 10

It's a muu muu (land)

R48 there is another unofficial YouTube video of the song that includes a picture of the two of them in the studio, together, so I assume that is how they recorded it. Unless the picture was just taken for publicity purposes.

Make mine a 99.

Justified and Ancient: The Bernie Sanders Story

Yes, I liked her Without Walls album too. Duet-heavy and not all that country. I actually prefer that version of EBYT too, because the original has really awful sound quality and Tammy adds a nice dynamic. And I saw that photo of her with Sting in the studio, I assume they must've recorded it together. I saw a couple of other photos of her Elton John, none in a studio though.

I loved it, and good for her!

Loved this video and Tammy!!

[quote]They only had two pop hits on US airplay, 3 a m eternal that peaked at 15 and Justified and ancient that peaked at 10

It peaked at #11 in the US.

R18, it was detailed in Jimmy Mcdonough's excellent bio, "Tammy Wynette: Tragic Country Queen."