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Linda Ronstadt - The Sound of My Voice

Anyone see this doc? I really only know her from Blue Bayou and Ooh Baby Baby. Then I bought Mad Love her venture into more punk influenced new wave in 1980 and I was sold.

She had an amazing voice and was fearless...always trying new things and challenging herself. The doc really gives texture to her career. I didn't realize how huge she was?

by Anonymousreply 196October 22, 2020 2:11 AM

Here's my favorite Linda Ronstadt album, Hasten down the Wind (1976).

My first gay boyfriend broke up with me to "Long, Long Time." He used to play side 2 of the Different Drum album a lot when we had sex. "Long, Long Time," the first song, didn't make as much of an impression on me as the last song, Linda's version of "Will You Love Me Tomorrow?", a pre-teen girl group anthem. He let me know in no uncertain terms I was a moment's pleasure, and not a lasting treasure, and somewhat mystifyingly, used "Long, Long Time" as a breakup song (dude, if think you're going to keep loving me, maybe you should think this breakup business over a little bit more).

Anyway, the day after the breakup, I went to J&R's, down by City Hall, and asked for the Linda Ronstadt album. Hasten down the Wind had just come out, so that's what the clerk gave me. It was just loaded, of course, with breakup tragedy songs, beginning with the stellar "Lose Again," so I failed to notice for awhile that "Long, Long Time" wasn't on it.

I bought all of her albums eventually, including Different Drum, which included not just "Long, Long Time" and "Will You Love Me Tomorrow," but also "Different Drum," the Stone Poneys' hit I'd owned on 45 ten years earlier.

Here's "Lose Again," and the rest of my favorite album of all time (by anyone), Hasten down the Wind.

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by Anonymousreply 1December 17, 2019 1:49 PM

Great album OP. I also love the Simple Dreams album.

Hard to pick a favorite but I do tend to prefer the ones where she is still mostly in the country/folk vibe.

by Anonymousreply 2December 17, 2019 1:57 PM
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by Anonymousreply 3December 17, 2019 1:59 PM

JD Souther's "Simple Man, Simple Dream," by Linda Ronstadt:

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by Anonymousreply 4December 17, 2019 2:09 PM

I saw the documentary, and it is quite good. I didn't realize how involved she was in the making of it. I was not expecting current footage and interviews; I assumed it would be just archival footage. I was surprised at how coarse she was, although that might not be the right word. Although she is clearly intelligent, she seems more rough around the edges than I thought. She essentially grew up around a bunch of male musicians, so, perhaps, she just picked up their behavior. Even for casual fans, the documentary is well worth seeing.

by Anonymousreply 5December 17, 2019 2:10 PM

She looked very frail at the Kennedy Honors.

by Anonymousreply 6December 17, 2019 2:17 PM

My favorite from that album r3 is When I Grow Too Old To Dream.

by Anonymousreply 7December 17, 2019 2:17 PM

Mine, too, r7. I've always wondered why the volume is so much lower on "When I Grow Too Old to Dream" than on all the other songs on Living in the USA.

by Anonymousreply 8December 17, 2019 2:26 PM

"Long, Long Time"

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by Anonymousreply 9December 17, 2019 2:28 PM

Her accent and manner of speaking is very "Michigan or Upper Mid-West for someone who is from Arizona. Maybe that's why she sounds coarse?

by Anonymousreply 10December 17, 2019 8:09 PM

Then you are probably at least younger than 50- or perhaps 40. She was one of the most successful singers on the 1970s and 80s and of course had a magnificent voice.

by Anonymousreply 11December 17, 2019 8:22 PM

It was both amazing and heartbreaking to watch. I've always been a fan of hers even though she was more of my older sibling's generation. What a voice she had!! I'm thrilled to see she has the #3 and #11 on I tunes right now. I hope the younger kids discover her discography.

by Anonymousreply 12January 2, 2020 10:39 PM

My dad bought me a LR cassette when I was 7. I said “what the fuck is this?!!!” I threw it at the wall.

by Anonymousreply 13January 2, 2020 10:44 PM

She wasn't all that successful in the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 14January 2, 2020 10:48 PM

R13 sounds like you have bigger issues.

by Anonymousreply 15January 2, 2020 10:48 PM

What a career. To see it all laid out was impressive. It brought a tear to my eye. Singers cannot have careers like that anymore, it's impossible today.

by Anonymousreply 16January 2, 2020 10:48 PM

"She wasn't all that successful in the 80s."

She released 7 albums in the 80s and six of those albums went Platinum in the US. Two of those albums went Triple Platinum. And that's just US sales. Her 1987 album "Canciones de Mi Padre" has sold nearly 10 million copies worldwide.

But no, she wasn't all that successful in the 80s......

by Anonymousreply 17January 2, 2020 10:53 PM

She tried to be the Connie Francis of her generation, but couldn't quite match up.

by Anonymousreply 18January 2, 2020 10:58 PM

Heart Like A Wheel is a masterpiece from beginning to end.

by Anonymousreply 19January 2, 2020 11:08 PM

She wasn’t popular in the 80s like hip popular. She was boring.

by Anonymousreply 20January 2, 2020 11:13 PM

So were Prisoner in Disguise (1975), Hasten down the Wind (1976), and Simple Dreams (1977), r19.

by Anonymousreply 21January 2, 2020 11:17 PM

R20 likes "hip popular".

by Anonymousreply 22January 2, 2020 11:19 PM

"Hip popular" music in the 1980s was so shitty, r20, I'm glad you found Linda "boring."

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by Anonymousreply 23January 2, 2020 11:21 PM

I see r23 is triggered. Better get out your cuff and check your blood pressure.

by Anonymousreply 24January 2, 2020 11:23 PM

I've seen it twice, and have it on my DVR queue to watch it again. To say say she's talented is an understatement. Dolly Parton was so right when she said, "She can do anything."

by Anonymousreply 25January 2, 2020 11:29 PM

She isn’t a good dancer

by Anonymousreply 26January 2, 2020 11:31 PM

I saw her do "Pirates of Penzance" on Broadway and she was marvelous. She could sing anything beautifully.

by Anonymousreply 27January 2, 2020 11:39 PM

She sure as hell cant sing now!

by Anonymousreply 28January 2, 2020 11:40 PM

R20 Tell us more about "hip popular" of 3 decades ago. We're all ears.

by Anonymousreply 29January 2, 2020 11:42 PM

Linda was a reluctant superstar without a trace of vanity. A real deal natural and yet folks still make up stuff about her.

by Anonymousreply 30January 2, 2020 11:43 PM

All that "boring" '80s music:

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by Anonymousreply 31January 2, 2020 11:46 PM

Linda had a few billboard top 40 singles during the 80s decade. She was busy singing Mexican shit and boring people with standards mostly. Did some shit with dolly and emmylou that was shitastic. Did a snooze fest with Aaron Neville whose voice is like a soft wet fart.

by Anonymousreply 32January 2, 2020 11:46 PM

[quote]I saw her do "Pirates of Penzance" on Broadway and she was marvelous. She could sing anything beautifully.

She was HORRIBLE in Pirates. She can't act to save her life and she doesn't have the range or agility to sing operetta properly.

by Anonymousreply 33January 2, 2020 11:51 PM

R33 you’ll have to excuse the senior citizen fan girl who would think a big loud fart out of Linda’s ass would sound beautiful

by Anonymousreply 34January 2, 2020 11:54 PM

So, in other words R32, an established superstar pop singer of the 70s branched out successfully to several different genres in the 80s to great success, and also found time to be the darling of Broadway in a chic revival of The Pirates of Penzance.

One of the best things about modern social technology Is that bogus revisionism can be dismantled in a matter of minutes.

by Anonymousreply 35January 2, 2020 11:56 PM

R32 = the Billboard 100 queen. Nobody was buying singles who listened to Linda Ronstadt then, dumbass. We bought ALBUMS.

by Anonymousreply 36January 2, 2020 11:58 PM

R35, what is your blood pressure?

by Anonymousreply 37January 3, 2020 12:00 AM

R36, it’s your bed time. Have your home health care worker fire up your Victrola so you can jack off to one of Linda’s Mexican language albums.

by Anonymousreply 38January 3, 2020 12:03 AM

a criminally underrated gem

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by Anonymousreply 39January 3, 2020 12:26 AM

Aw c'mon R38 tell us about "hip popular".

We really want to hear what you youngsters were listening to 30 - 40 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 40January 3, 2020 12:27 AM

Linda currently has 3 albums in the US Top 10 on iTunes

by Anonymousreply 41January 3, 2020 12:34 AM

^^^whoops, meant Top 20

by Anonymousreply 42January 3, 2020 12:35 AM

Linda Ronstadt - The Waiting

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by Anonymousreply 43January 3, 2020 12:37 AM

🤣 😂

by Anonymousreply 44January 3, 2020 12:48 AM

LINDA @ 6:27!

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by Anonymousreply 45January 3, 2020 12:51 AM

She’s ugly fat and sick now

by Anonymousreply 46January 3, 2020 12:52 AM

Linda Ronstadt "I Can't Let Go" Live

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by Anonymousreply 47January 3, 2020 1:04 AM

There is simply no other female pop singer with a voice as incredible as Linda Ronstadt's. She could sing anything - country, rock, folk, standards, operetta for God's sake!

Whether or not you're a fan, you can't deny her talent. Even Dolly said in the documentary that Linda could sing any style of music.

by Anonymousreply 48January 3, 2020 1:10 AM

R35 couldn't agree more. I used to find the negative comments on here somewhat amusing. Seriously, how can you come on here and knock the woman's talent?! Now, I just find them pathetic and imagine them sitting with their special sized (xxxxl) sweatpants in their parent's basement.

by Anonymousreply 49January 3, 2020 1:41 AM

Want love?

Get Close Up!

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by Anonymousreply 50January 3, 2020 1:58 AM

I hope she is discovered by a new generation.

by Anonymousreply 51January 3, 2020 2:08 AM

The documentary is really well done and does her amazing career justice. The end is so poignant when she sings with her family. I’m glad Linda is having this moment. For too long, she was unsung. Between this doc and the Kennedy Center Honors, it’s great to see her back on the charts and in the public consciousness.

by Anonymousreply 52January 3, 2020 2:20 AM

I wonder if Madonna is seething with jealousy that Linda’s back catalogue is speaking renewed interest in the iTunes charts. How long until Madge reveals a diagnosis of a similar neurological condition? I’m sure the thought of seeing the “True Blue” album in the iTunes Top 100 chart us making her arthritic pussy a little moist right now.

by Anonymousreply 53January 3, 2020 2:39 AM

iTunes has 10 of her albums in the top 100 right now...8 are in the top 50...4 are in the top 20....1 is no 4 in the top 10

by Anonymousreply 54January 3, 2020 2:59 AM

I love that Linda's Greatest Hits album is No. 4 on iTunes -- higher than Taylor Swift, Lizzo and Ariana Grande.

by Anonymousreply 55January 4, 2020 12:28 AM

I grew up loving Linda. I bought the documentary the day it came out. I thought it was really good. Was kind of surprised they did not talk about her relationship with George Lucas.

by Anonymousreply 56January 4, 2020 12:36 AM

She's an amazing talent, and plan on watching the re-broadcast tomorrow. She was very pretty in her youth. It's too bad some posters have only snide things to comment such as she's old, fat, etc. Parkinson's is a bitch. Everyone should wish her well, even if they're not fans of her music. She's been quite brave and persevering calling out Trump, and even better yet, Pompeo to his pompous face.

by Anonymousreply 57January 4, 2020 12:52 AM

R57 She's candid and unapologetic and I've always liked that about her.

by Anonymousreply 58January 4, 2020 12:53 AM

From CNN:

"Ronstadt, now 73, prematurely retired from her decades-long singing career due to a rare condition called progressive supranuclear palsy, which is similar to Parkinson's disease and has no known cure. "I was expecting [the doctor] was going to say I had a pinched nerve and they could fix it. And he said, 'Well, I think you might have Parkinson's disease,' and I was totally shocked. It took him about a year after that to come to the diagnosis and then took a little bit longer to come to supranuclear palsy," Ronstadt said."

by Anonymousreply 59January 4, 2020 1:09 AM

Fucking LOVE this woman!

by Anonymousreply 60January 4, 2020 1:16 AM

R59 Thanks for the update, as it had been widely reported for some time that she was diagnosed as having Parkinson's. Hopefully the trajectory of this isn't as debilitating in the long run.

by Anonymousreply 61January 4, 2020 1:21 AM

Google says:

"Patients with PSP tend to have progressive deterioration, with a 9.7-year median survival from the onset of symptoms. Gait difficulties occur early, and patients require assistance within 3 years. Confinement to bed or a wheelchair is typically necessary within 8 years."

by Anonymousreply 62January 4, 2020 1:42 AM

Unfortunately the Lyme disease crowd hooked into her when she revealed she got a tick bite and her health was never the same after.

by Anonymousreply 63January 4, 2020 1:56 AM

This was wonderful, just watched it last night. But I was put off by Emmylou Harris. While I knew her name, I didn’t know her music and looking her up she’s been incredibly successful. But I found her really stilted and mechanically hollow on her performances and her present day persona was very creepy witchy.

by Anonymousreply 64January 4, 2020 1:59 AM

Emmylou Harris is a wonderful singer.

I’m surprised that no one on this thread has complained about the appearance of Jackson Browne in the film.

by Anonymousreply 65January 4, 2020 2:09 AM

Wasn't she banned from some place for trash talking Pres Bush years ago?

Anyone remember the details?

She has a great voice, but the few albums I listened to I found mostly boring.

It's like Carly Simon - I loved a couple of her hit songs, then got a Simon album and it was really boring.

by Anonymousreply 66January 4, 2020 2:12 AM

R65 Why, did he beat her too?

by Anonymousreply 67January 4, 2020 2:27 AM

r65....You do realize all of these people are in their 70s and 80s now, right ?

by Anonymousreply 68January 4, 2020 2:34 AM

My pussy is candid. Psssst.

by Anonymousreply 69January 4, 2020 5:34 PM

Don Henley was a hot piece back then.

by Anonymousreply 70January 5, 2020 1:27 AM

Stop living in the fuckin past!!

by Anonymousreply 71January 5, 2020 1:28 AM

My great grandmother liked her.

by Anonymousreply 72January 5, 2020 1:31 AM

I was shocked Henley was alive.

by Anonymousreply 73January 5, 2020 1:56 AM

R68/R71/R72 There's nothing wrong in reminiscing. Nostalgia is said to be sweet for a reason. When (or if) you get older, you'll find it's nice to remember.

by Anonymousreply 74January 5, 2020 2:53 AM

r74...I was responding to a poster who commented how bad certain people looked...I was only pointing out that theyre not hot 20 year olds anymore.

by Anonymousreply 75January 5, 2020 3:21 AM

PSP is what killed Dudley Moore.

by Anonymousreply 76January 5, 2020 3:25 AM

I had no idea that Ronstadt and James Taylor were the background singers for Neil Young on Heart of Gold in 1972

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by Anonymousreply 77January 5, 2020 4:46 AM

[quote]Her accent and manner of speaking is very "Michigan or Upper Mid-West for someone who is from Arizona. Maybe that's why she sounds coarse?

Could be -- her mother was from Michigan. And I'm from that area and find nothing "coarse" about her speaking at all.

by Anonymousreply 78January 5, 2020 1:01 PM

I’ve got the drizzly shits!

by Anonymousreply 79January 5, 2020 1:51 PM

[quote]She tried to be the Connie Francis of her generation, but couldn't quite match up.

It takes more than staying at the Hojo's with the door ajar to be me!

by Anonymousreply 80January 5, 2020 1:51 PM

I loved every minute of this. Great archival footage, and Linda's narration is very special. R64 I couldn't disagree with you more on Harris; I think she's still classically beautiful. She looks like a Celtic goddess IMHO.

by Anonymousreply 81January 5, 2020 6:40 PM

Where can this be seen?

by Anonymousreply 82January 5, 2020 6:44 PM

CNN R82. Try on demand, or if you wait a bit, I'm sure it'll air again.

by Anonymousreply 83January 5, 2020 6:48 PM

The archival footage was interesting but when they launched into "What's New", the sound quality went way up and it was really stunning to hear the fullness and nuances of her voice.

She always just seemed like a really cool lady to me, very thoughtful but also fun. Although not mentioned in the documentary, her best friend is Michiko Kakutani. She said she got her to read the Harry Potter books when Kakutani was feeling low and it picked her up.

by Anonymousreply 84January 5, 2020 8:14 PM

Do we think there was some lesbian action between her and Emmylou?

by Anonymousreply 85January 5, 2020 10:29 PM

The guy who interviewed her for Rolling Stone magazine in the mid 90s - Chris Mundy - was a real asshole.

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by Anonymousreply 86January 5, 2020 10:36 PM

Linda's vocal arrangement and phrasing of "What's New" is remarkably similar to Eydie Gorme's.

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by Anonymousreply 87January 5, 2020 11:38 PM

Didn't Nelson Riddle arrange them both? The documentary said she studied all versions of the songs she recorded so it makes sense It sounds like Eydie since she was arguably the best.

by Anonymousreply 88January 6, 2020 12:08 AM

R87 Except Linda sings in the actual key signature. Eydie Gorme sings some flat notes in that.

by Anonymousreply 89January 6, 2020 12:15 AM

Linda, James Taylor, and Emmylou Harris also sang backup for Neil Young on his wonderful "Harvest Moon" record. Of course, they sound sublime.

by Anonymousreply 90January 6, 2020 2:19 AM

Rip Torn died

by Anonymousreply 91January 6, 2020 2:42 AM

The directors are Dataloungers! Or Datalounge-adjacent.

by Anonymousreply 92January 6, 2020 3:25 AM

Don Costa arranged for Eydie. Nelson Riddle arranged Sinatra's "What's New" but the arrangement he did for Linda sounds like Costa's.

by Anonymousreply 93January 6, 2020 4:56 AM

I love her version of Tumbling Dice, makes me want to get up and dance

by Anonymousreply 94January 6, 2020 12:02 PM

Was she Lesbianic? She never married, adopted her two kids and has small titties.

by Anonymousreply 95January 6, 2020 1:23 PM

She obviously had a very heavy hand in the direction of the doc.

She couldn't croak out more of a deathbed apology for playing Sun City? All we got was her weak "there are bad people on both sides" defense from way back when.

by Anonymousreply 96January 6, 2020 1:49 PM

She seemed to have her pick of men, maybe just didn't want marriage. I remember a local radio DJ in the 70's would go on about his crush on her every time he played her songs.

by Anonymousreply 97January 6, 2020 1:52 PM

Please don't take this the wrong way, R64, but -

You're a f*cking moron.

by Anonymousreply 98January 6, 2020 2:49 PM

I beg to differ, r74.

by Anonymousreply 99January 6, 2020 2:57 PM

I'm surprised the doc didn't mention her children. They'd both be in their 20s now. The film took pains to talk about why she never married, but didn't mention her choosing to raise children when she was in her 50s and 60s.

by Anonymousreply 100January 6, 2020 5:20 PM

Mary is 29 and Carlos is 26

by Anonymousreply 101January 6, 2020 6:22 PM

I think all those girls in the SoCal scene were at least bi. Nicolette Larson eventually married Russ Kunkel and had a daughter who is also a singer, but was in a long time relationship with an incredibly butch woman. I'm sure Linda dabbled at the very least.

by Anonymousreply 102January 6, 2020 6:47 PM

r102 deserves a kick in the cunt for that untrue rumor. And I'm just the gal to do it!

by Anonymousreply 103January 6, 2020 6:52 PM

Is Russ Kunkel related to Leah Kunkel (sister of Cass Elliot), r102?

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by Anonymousreply 104January 6, 2020 7:03 PM

Well Stevie, considering you are so blind, maybe you mistook that clit you were licking just for a small dick.

by Anonymousreply 105January 6, 2020 7:05 PM

r104...She's his wife

by Anonymousreply 106January 6, 2020 7:09 PM

R104 Leah Kunkel was married to Russ Kunkel in 1968.

by Anonymousreply 107January 6, 2020 7:10 PM

How many of the Eagles did she hook up with?

by Anonymousreply 108January 6, 2020 10:11 PM

I would have fucked the hell out of Glenn Frey if I had the chance, he was hot even in his old age. He was buddies with Don Johnson, I would like to be in the middle of that sandwich.

by Anonymousreply 109January 7, 2020 5:01 PM

I like Linda (admittedly, mostly just the albums up through Mad Love) but I honestly thought this was pretty superficial. Not unlike her memoir. The way they glossed over Sun City - made it seem like a maverick political stance, even - was pretty typical.

It was great to see Dolly though, basically confirming the "hurry up bitch, I got things to do" shade (not in so many words, of course).

I've never actually heard any confirmation that she fucked any of the Eagles. Unless JD Souther counts.

by Anonymousreply 110January 7, 2020 5:13 PM

[quote] I like Linda (admittedly, mostly just the albums up through Mad Love) but I honestly thought this was pretty superficial. Not unlike her memoir. The way they glossed over Sun City - made it seem like a maverick political stance, even - was pretty typical.

Agreed. The Sun City situation could have used more exposition. She did it for the money.

by Anonymousreply 111January 8, 2020 12:42 AM

The Sun City incident was a blip in her lifetime...it was not some major fucking scandal...it doesnt need explaining or exploring. Same with the incident in Vegas...it was nothing and had no affect on her career. nIt would be different if it derailed her career or caused a dramatic dip in popularity, but none of that happened,

by Anonymousreply 112January 8, 2020 12:52 AM

It’s not as if Linda supported Apartheid. She spoke out against it. However, she thought that a boycott of the arts was the wrong approach to fighting injustice.

So she did consider the situation, she understood the stakes, she made a decision based on her beliefs, and has not been apologetic about for her decision (as far as I can tell). She didn’t just blindly grab a paycheck.

by Anonymousreply 113January 8, 2020 12:53 AM

[quote]She didn’t just blindly grab a paycheck.

She tried to justify it, but in my opinion this is exactly what she did. In the kindest interpretation, you could say she was too naive to understand that she was tacitly supporting the SA government by breaking the boycott. "But the US does bad stuff too and there are racists in Boston" is a weak defense.

And she got plenty of blowback about it. There was a damning article in Rolling Stone called "Snow White in Africa." It had less of an effect on her career than it might have because she was making the Nelson Riddle albums and those sold to an older audience. She wasn't an MTV fixture.

I like her, but there's no point in pretending Sun City was anything bit an unfortunate low point. Seemed like the doc was made with her cooperation so I can understand why they didn't dig into it much, but it was plenty controversial at the time.

by Anonymousreply 114January 8, 2020 1:07 AM

It was not.

by Anonymousreply 115January 8, 2020 1:08 AM

It at least cost her an invite to the We Are The World recording session.

by Anonymousreply 116January 8, 2020 1:42 PM

^^^ Nooooooo, the TRUTH is, Quincy Jones Himself invited her to participate in the WATW session and she declined, saying she had a bad cold. (Personally, I think was her diplomatic way of getting out of having to take part in that fustercluck.)

by Anonymousreply 117January 8, 2020 2:02 PM

Too bad Linda didn't have a bad cold or a diplomatic response to not personally profit from her Sun City - Apartheid Regime support.

by Anonymousreply 118January 8, 2020 2:29 PM

[quote] And she got plenty of blowback about it. There was a damning article in Rolling Stone called "Snow White in Africa." It had less of an effect on her career than it might have because she was making the Nelson Riddle albums and those sold to an older audience. She wasn't an MTV fixture.

Exactly, her mainstream popularity had already waned. "Get Closer" failed to go platinum or yield any significant hits (although "Easy For You To Say" is one of my favorites). Conveniently she was heading into her Nelson Riddle era so that stopped the bleeding, because it was successful and because it appealed to the U.S. apartheid generation. Other folks who played Sun City with little blowback had the same audience -- Sinatra, Mathis, Minnelli, etc. Mainstream rock stars who played SA generally paid a price. BTW, Linda got $500k for the trip in the early 80s when she needed the money. She publicly was criticized and none of her rock contemporaries made the same mistake. In 2019, it would be appropriate to admit to her naivete (or indifference or greed) instead of recycling her hyper-defensive "Boston is racist" nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 119January 8, 2020 2:34 PM

To find out that she also actively declined to participate in a project that shed worldwide attention on the plight of Africans makes me have even less respect for her and truly question her real beliefs.

by Anonymousreply 120January 8, 2020 2:35 PM

r119....you just exposed yourself as full of shit and a nutjob....at the time, she was one of the highest paid women in the music business...she did not need the money...and plenty of others performed there also. As far as Rolling Stone, it is common knowledge that Jann Wenner did not like LR...one of the reasons it took so long to get into the RRHOF...and there were plenty of hit pieces written about her in RS and they were all based on animus by Jann Wenner.

by Anonymousreply 121January 8, 2020 2:40 PM

Google is your friend, r121. You can research the chronology of her trip to SA instead of talking out your ass. A contemporaneous Rolling Stone article is not less credible than a moron on Datalounge.

...and YOU are the moron, in case you're too stupid to figure that out.

by Anonymousreply 122January 8, 2020 2:48 PM

Playing Sun City didn't hurt Gay icons like Eartha Kitt and Tina Turner. Of course, poor Eartha was christened an "honorary white" but found out how little that meant when she and her daughter were refused admission to a kiddie park.

by Anonymousreply 123January 8, 2020 4:43 PM

Cher played there regularly as well.

by Anonymousreply 124January 8, 2020 4:44 PM

At the time LR released Canciones Di Mi Padre, Rolling Stone essentially labeled it dreck and a career killer....we all know how that turned out...so much for the insightfulness of Rolling Stone. Jann Wenner was a major misogynist.

by Anonymousreply 125January 8, 2020 4:51 PM

Gay men in the 80s had bigger concerns than who was playing Sun City.

by Anonymousreply 126January 8, 2020 4:53 PM

We aren't in the '80s and gays still don't care about Cher playing there but some are still really zeroing in on Linda, perhaps because she's not a gay icon.

by Anonymousreply 127January 8, 2020 4:54 PM

The so-called rock cognoscenti pissed all over her Nelson Riddle records, too. To which all that needs to be said is 'Fuck them. Fuck them right in their cognoscenti-eating ass."

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by Anonymousreply 128January 8, 2020 4:56 PM

Yes. Fuck Dave Marsh with a vintage Mets baseball bat, sideways.

by Anonymousreply 129January 8, 2020 5:19 PM

The Ronstadt Family History

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by Anonymousreply 130January 9, 2020 1:49 PM

I liked Carly Simon much better cause she was more interesting.

by Anonymousreply 131January 9, 2020 2:31 PM

I like both Linda and Carly, but for some reason, I didn't buy many of Carly's albums until the late '90s, when I bought a new turntable. Same with Joni. Linda I've been listening to consistently since 1976. She's my favorite.

by Anonymousreply 132January 9, 2020 2:35 PM

Carly was pissed off with Linda because she thought she stole her idea of doing standards.

Carly did it before Linda with Torch. But Linda got all the credit (and money) with What's New?

If fairness to Linda, What's New? was a better, more consistent album.

by Anonymousreply 133January 9, 2020 2:39 PM

Although I am (apparently) Linda's biggest fan on DL, I have to say I prefer Carly's decidedly non-Riddle version of "I Get Along without You Very Well."

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by Anonymousreply 134January 9, 2020 2:46 PM

R134 That song makes me cry.

by Anonymousreply 135January 9, 2020 2:58 PM

They were very different kinds of albums I felt. Other than standards, they don’t sound much like each other. I always thought the Carly album was more like what you might do in a club. Linda did the full orchestra thing. Two different concepts.

by Anonymousreply 136January 9, 2020 7:35 PM

Carly, in addition to including songs she wrote, also premiered a new Stephen Sondheim song "Not a Day Goes By" which has gone on to be one of his classics.

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by Anonymousreply 137January 9, 2020 8:07 PM

R130 I see a lot of Linda in those faces. Or vice versa.

by Anonymousreply 138January 9, 2020 9:23 PM

I really love both but Linda has a better voice... IMHO.

by Anonymousreply 139January 10, 2020 8:04 PM

[quote] But I was put off by Emmylou Harris. While I knew her name, I didn’t know her music and looking her up she’s been incredibly successful. But I found her really stilted and mechanically hollow on her performances and her present day persona was very creepy witchy.

You’re no good, r64...baby, you’re no good.

I had the complete opposite reaction. Emmylou’s interviews were my favorite parts of the documentary . It’s clear Linda’s friendship means a hell of a lot to her. I love Dolly but I felt her talking points were all “Lights, camera, action” - no real emotion behind her commentary.

Younger Ruben Blades was hot!

by Anonymousreply 140January 12, 2020 6:08 PM

Emmylou and Roy Orbison's "That Lovin' You Feelin' Again."

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by Anonymousreply 141January 12, 2020 6:10 PM

Emmylou and Roy Orbison's "That Lovin' You Feelin' Again."

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by Anonymousreply 142January 12, 2020 6:10 PM

"Boulder to Birmingham" - Emmylou Harris

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by Anonymousreply 143January 12, 2020 6:14 PM

"In My Hour of Darkness" - Gram Parsons, Emmylou Harris, and Linda Ronstadt

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by Anonymousreply 144January 12, 2020 6:16 PM

"Two More Bottles of Wine" - Emmylou Harris

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by Anonymousreply 145January 12, 2020 6:25 PM

"You Never Can Tell" - Emmylou Harris

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by Anonymousreply 146January 12, 2020 6:30 PM

I love Linda and am glad to see her back in the game.

My first LR album was Mad Love and the I went backwards.

Linda has some rough edges especially when it comes to her politics. Although I agree with them (mostly), It's her way or the highway.

Also Linda holds the record of having slept with all of the Eagles.

by Anonymousreply 147January 12, 2020 7:30 PM

I loved seeing Karla Bonoff in the doc. Here she is doing her own version of the hit that Linda respectfully covered well:

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by Anonymousreply 148January 13, 2020 1:29 AM

Did Elvis Costello ever apologize for his nasty comments about her covers? I know he said nice comments about the documentary.

by Anonymousreply 149January 16, 2020 12:56 AM

A friend in the industry in those days said she was demanding and very difficult to work with (he worked for a label). Slept with whoever she wanted (assuming male, I didn't ask) and is JD Souther's great love. He has great respect for JD btw, as a person and as a talent.

by Anonymousreply 150January 16, 2020 1:17 AM

A weird story that came back to haunt me, sorta. My family knew Linda's bass player, Bob Glaub. I got backstage to her concert at the Amphitheater and who shows up but Phil Spector. Linda spoke with him for a while and then had to start the concert. Spector grabbed her and screamed "you're staying here with me". Linda had muscle with her (as did Phil) and they pulled her away and Linda told Phil "go back to the zoo". He started trying to trash the hospitality room before he was thrown out. Cut to the Phil Spector murder trial. I was assigned to that case as a juror and had to recuse myself because of the incident. I explained what I saw and was immediately dismissed. I often wondered if I could have swayed the first jury to find a guilty verdict. He was willing to try to intimidate Ronstadt in front of a huge group of people. I have to imagine Lana Clarkson was terrified by him.

by Anonymousreply 151January 16, 2020 1:35 AM

When Elvis Costello was promoting his album of cover songs (this was about 20 years ago), I read an interview where he more or less admitted Linda’s covers helped his career from a financial standpoint and that he should have been more charitable in his comments at the time. So...probably as close to an apology as he was going to give.

by Anonymousreply 152January 16, 2020 2:20 AM

Elvis Costello is an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 153January 16, 2020 2:46 AM

Film won the AARP “Movies for Grown-Ups” award.

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by Anonymousreply 154January 16, 2020 2:50 AM

That was really good, so glad I watched it. As child of the '70s, Linda Ronstadt was just ALWAYS there, with her amazing voice. I only realise in retrospect what a force of nature she was - she wore it really well.

by Anonymousreply 155January 19, 2020 6:49 PM

Well R150, she did exactly what she wanted to do so of course people are going to call her difficult. Especially the men.

by Anonymousreply 156January 19, 2020 6:51 PM

It's a good documentary but as a fan, it skipped over too much. There was nothing about the Mad Love album.

It was great hearing from other artists. I thought Karla Bonoff's comments were interesting. She basically admitted that Linda singing her songs dampened Bonoff's own career since she couldn't sing like Linda.

And you can tell that J.D. is still very much in love with her.

by Anonymousreply 157January 19, 2020 7:01 PM

A lot of purists scoffed at "Mad Love" but, song for song, it's my favorite Ronstadt album. I just didn't expect "New Wave"; it was perfect pop. Especially "Girls Talk".

by Anonymousreply 158January 19, 2020 7:02 PM

One of my favorite album covers too, which I have framed (I know, "Mary!")

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by Anonymousreply 159January 19, 2020 7:05 PM

As I suspected, the documentary is just as much about the '70s California rock movement as it is about Linda's career. I love Linda, but she isn't that interesting on her own to fill up an entire documentary. The other artists they interviewed are more interesting and important than her.

by Anonymousreply 160January 19, 2020 8:36 PM

In Steve Martin's memoir, he recounts how he dated Linda for awhile.

by Anonymousreply 161January 19, 2020 10:26 PM

How come CNN didn't play this every other week like the "Notorious RBG?"

by Anonymousreply 162January 22, 2020 10:13 PM

"Still within the Sound of My Voice"

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by Anonymousreply 163January 22, 2020 10:25 PM

[quote]She tried to justify it, but in my opinion this is exactly what she did. In the kindest interpretation, you could say she was too naive to understand that she was tacitly supporting the SA government by breaking the boycott. "But the US does bad stuff too and there are racists in Boston" is a weak defense.

At the time she went to Sun City, Boston was in the middle of a huge controversy over busing. The desegregation of Boston public schools was a period in which the Boston Public Schools were under court control to desegregate through a system of busing students. The call for desegregation and its implementation led to a series of racial protests and riots that brought national attention. There was a lot of racially based violent attacks on African American students that occurred in that period, one that didn't end until 1988.

So her bringing up Boston was not simply her pulling something out of her ass. She was merely trying to make a point that if she wasn't going to go to a place where racist attitudes were prevalent, then she wouldn't go to Boston as well.

The UN boycott was very controversial at the time. Roberta Flack who refused to go to Sun City, also said that the United States had no leg to stand on concerning racial matters . And for every white entertainer who visited South Africa, there were just as many black entertainers who went as well. And a few like Millie Jackson, who were completely unapologetic about it.

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by Anonymousreply 164January 22, 2020 10:45 PM

My mom had Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. Like Ronstadt, her diagnosis was a gradual change from Parkinson's. It was a devastating disease. She lost her ability to balance on her feet, then she couldn't walk anymore. We got her a wheelchair. She stopped being able to move from her bed or chair into the wheelchair, so we had to carry her. Dad had to start changing her diapers. She lost the use of her arms and we needed to feed her. (I fed her the last meal.) She could not differentiate what was on the TV and what was real around her. All the time, her eyes were unable to move, so she stared at what was in front of her. It was a blessing when she passed.

When I saw her singing with her family in the last part of the documentary, Ronstadt looked exactly how my mom looked at a point in the disease. I feel horrible for her and I wish her all of the best. It's heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 165January 22, 2020 11:06 PM

Lately, I've been watching a ton of documentaries about the Laurel Canyon scene: Laurel Canyon, the David Crosby one, the Eagles one, etc.. Honestly, I'm not sure why, but a few weeks ago I spent some time going through my parents' record collection and they appear to have purchased EVERY album by any Laurel Canyon-adjacent artist (except Joni Mitchell, for some reason).

So, anyway, I finally got around to watching this documentary and I quite enjoyed it. I never really knew much about Linda Ronstadt, but it was really interesting to learn more about her. It was really touching to hear Emmylou Harris share how Linda helped her out so much after Gram Parsons' death. You can tell Linda really means a lot to her. The song Linda, Emmylou and Dolly sang on Dolly's show was lovely, I wish there was a longer clip of it!!!

R65 I'm also kind of disappointed that no one commented on Jackson Browne's appearance in the doc. It appears that he's had so much botox he couldn't move his forehead!!!

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by Anonymousreply 166August 4, 2020 1:17 AM

Her big '80s hits were Somewhere Out There and Don't Know Much.

by Anonymousreply 167August 4, 2020 1:21 AM

R167, she also had one or two hits off of her 1980 album Mad Love. 4 hits for the decade of the 1980s

by Anonymousreply 168August 4, 2020 1:23 AM

I think she is a goddess but her standards albums are all wrong. The style feels pasted on even though the voice is lovely.

by Anonymousreply 169August 4, 2020 1:51 AM

Such a talent, it's heartbreaking what's happening. I recently watched "The Pirates of Penzance." The movie was charming and funny while LR looked and sounded amazing.

by Anonymousreply 170August 4, 2020 12:23 PM

OMG, I hated Penzance with Linda! As bad as The Pirate Movie with Kristy McNicol and Chris Asskins!

by Anonymousreply 171August 4, 2020 3:13 PM

r171...thinks Beyonce is the greatest singer ever !

by Anonymousreply 172August 4, 2020 3:18 PM

I didn't like how the documentary messed up the timeline of Pirates. It presents her album Get Closer before but it was made after Pirates.

by Anonymousreply 173August 4, 2020 3:34 PM

Did she ever makeup with Howard & Robin?

by Anonymousreply 174August 4, 2020 3:36 PM

r32 r38 types Shitdonna fan.

by Anonymousreply 175August 4, 2020 4:05 PM

"Many Rivers to Cross" just popped up.

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by Anonymousreply 176August 4, 2020 4:52 PM

It didn't mention her off-Broadway version of La Boheme which only ran a month.

by Anonymousreply 177August 4, 2020 5:00 PM

R177 The reviews were terrible but give her credit for trying. It's not an easy role.

by Anonymousreply 178August 4, 2020 5:27 PM

Linda Ronstadt not only had a great voice, she had great vocal technique and great breath control. It's very, very rare to find this combination in a pop singer. Streisand had it, and I think she and Ronstadt are the last two who can be considered in the category of great singers who had it all. I can't think of any today who do.

by Anonymousreply 179August 4, 2020 8:18 PM

R179, and Melissa Manchester!

by Anonymousreply 180August 5, 2020 1:03 AM

R168 Here again, the documentary made me really curious about Canciones de Mi Padre and I watched parts of the concert last night. I actually had no idea that Linda has Mexican heritage (ok... I knew almost nothing about her besides the hits), so it was interesting! She doesn't seem to get a lot of credit in these day and age for being a "Latina" who made it so far in rock 'n' roll!

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by Anonymousreply 181August 5, 2020 1:36 AM

Yes Melissa Manchester

by Anonymousreply 182August 5, 2020 1:44 AM

Dolly Parton has so much botox in her face during her recent interview that her mouth moves differently and she has trouble getting words out.

by Anonymousreply 183October 21, 2020 12:29 AM

She’s been faking illness

by Anonymousreply 184October 21, 2020 12:36 AM

I love when she was being interviewed on TV and said how racist different American cities are, and that she performs in places where she disagrees with the government.

by Anonymousreply 185October 21, 2020 12:45 AM

She doesn’t perform anymore

by Anonymousreply 186October 21, 2020 12:46 AM

Like a common whore, she'd take money from anyone to perform anywhere, even if she said that she didn't agree. But really, she didn't care either way.

by Anonymousreply 187October 21, 2020 2:16 AM

LR had a fabulous voice. So sad what happened. I loved her from the beginning. Great song writer as well.

by Anonymousreply 188October 21, 2020 3:13 AM

Thoughts & prayers for poor Linda baby!

by Anonymousreply 189October 21, 2020 5:34 AM

[quote]So sad what happened.

[quote]Thoughts & prayers for poor Linda baby!

Did something happen? Today, I mean.

by Anonymousreply 190October 21, 2020 6:40 AM

Lindas: Carter, Lavin, Ronstadt. Who's #1?

by Anonymousreply 191October 21, 2020 10:40 PM

Ronstadt.

by Anonymousreply 192October 21, 2020 10:46 PM

Ronstadt, r191.

by Anonymousreply 193October 21, 2020 10:53 PM

Its LYNDA Carter bitch.

by Anonymousreply 194October 21, 2020 11:48 PM

There's a new documentary about her called Linda and the Mockingbirds about her Mexican heritage and music.

by Anonymousreply 195October 22, 2020 12:02 AM

The Sun City episode was unfortunate, and the subsequent non-apologies worse still, but homegirl didn't have any publishing royalties so a check was a check. After Tina Turner performed there she told the media she was "naive" about the political situation in SA (eyeroll). What is less commonly remembered is that Paul Simon received similar of criticism for flouting the UN cultural boycott while he was recording Graceland in 1986, so he purposely chose Linda to duet on "Under African Skies" as a big Fuck You to the ANC.

When Stevie Nicks performed Linda's songs at the R&R Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony in 2014 she went on and on about how she looked up to Linda (as if they were from different generations?) but maintained that they never met. How could the two biggest female singers of the 1970s, both based in Southern CA and performing with/fucking some of the same musicians, have never met? I found it very odd.

by Anonymousreply 196October 22, 2020 2:11 AM
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