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Where’s our gay male role models?

Eldergays had heroes like Harvey Milk who worked tirelessly to better things for gays. We have trash like Adam Rippon, Chris Crocker, Jeffree Star and James Charles, who are pathetic excuses for human beings, much less gay men. I guess the lezzies have Ellen Degeneres, but she’s rumored to be a huge cunt off-camera, and I don’t see her as a role model. I need a respectable gay male I can get behind and that can lead the gay movement.

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by Anonymousreply 217February 10, 2020 2:15 AM

I can’t think of any current gay man that a gayling could look up to. 🤔

by Anonymousreply 1December 3, 2019 1:36 AM

Be that person. Waiting for someone else does you and the world no good.

by Anonymousreply 2December 3, 2019 1:37 AM

Anthony Bowen, Michael Sam, Jake Atlas, Antonio Brown, Darren Young, Frank Ocean, and Bradley Kim are all great bi and gay role models today.

by Anonymousreply 3December 3, 2019 1:39 AM

Here’s one of mine.

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by Anonymousreply 4December 3, 2019 1:41 AM

Another of mine.

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by Anonymousreply 5December 3, 2019 1:42 AM

Another

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by Anonymousreply 6December 3, 2019 1:45 AM

No one under 40 has the courage to call themselves "gay". They are fluid, questioning, non-binary, queer or bi.

by Anonymousreply 7December 3, 2019 1:46 AM

Get out of my Garden R5!

by Anonymousreply 8December 3, 2019 1:46 AM

Another

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by Anonymousreply 9December 3, 2019 1:47 AM

Gay men don't want to celebrate other gay men, we want to attack them.

by Anonymousreply 10December 3, 2019 1:47 AM

[quote] Gay men don't want to celebrate other gay men, we want to attack them.

As OP's negative prisspot cuntery shows us.......

by Anonymousreply 11December 3, 2019 1:48 AM

Another.

There are still plenty of gay role models. The problem is that gay men ONLY look to “hot” narcissists and porn stars and are surprised that they don’t see any quality.

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by Anonymousreply 12December 3, 2019 1:48 AM

This one turned out to be pretty decent.

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by Anonymousreply 13December 3, 2019 1:50 AM

Lil Nas X

by Anonymousreply 14December 3, 2019 1:51 AM

If you need your role models to be gorgeous, here’s one.

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by Anonymousreply 15December 3, 2019 1:51 AM

Larry Kramer

by Anonymousreply 16December 3, 2019 1:52 AM

Anderson Cooper had so much promise. Then he turned out to be a narcissistic vapid cunt that hangs out with Andy Cohen.

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by Anonymousreply 17December 3, 2019 1:52 AM

Stevie Nicks

by Anonymousreply 18December 3, 2019 1:52 AM

Two creative talents.

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by Anonymousreply 19December 3, 2019 1:52 AM

Luke Evans, Tommy Martinez

by Anonymousreply 20December 3, 2019 1:53 AM

Has Tyler Perry officially come out yet? He has promise as a role model.

by Anonymousreply 21December 3, 2019 1:53 AM

Good guy, talented, decent.

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by Anonymousreply 22December 3, 2019 1:54 AM

Look at talent and character instead of just beauty and you’ll find plenty of role models.

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by Anonymousreply 23December 3, 2019 1:56 AM

There are a lot of famous gay men: Ian McKellen, NPH, Zach Quinto, Jonathan Groff, Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, Nate Silver, Steve Kornacki, Elton John, Ricky Martin.

by Anonymousreply 24December 3, 2019 2:00 AM

Charles Blow, Ezra Miller

by Anonymousreply 25December 3, 2019 2:03 AM

I wouldn’t count Don Lemon as a role model. He’s a vindictive, conniving cunt who would throw his own mother under the bus for fame. He’s a trash human.

by Anonymousreply 26December 3, 2019 2:04 AM

R26 Never his mother...otherwise, yes, accurate.

by Anonymousreply 27December 3, 2019 2:07 AM

So what we want is someone who is good looking and smart but doesn't act too gay or trashy and has some degree of fame and is rich. Do I have it right? Also they can't be an entertainer of any sort .

by Anonymousreply 28December 3, 2019 2:10 AM

R28 Sounds like Ronan wins the game.

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by Anonymousreply 29December 3, 2019 2:14 AM

He has Frank’s eyes.

by Anonymousreply 30December 3, 2019 2:15 AM

Porn stars, OP. That's what the vast majority of gay men want to be.

by Anonymousreply 31December 3, 2019 2:15 AM

All this time and nobody mentions Saint Pete? The previous 31 posters must be those homophobic black Democratic voters who are singlehandedly blocking Pete’s path to the nomination.

by Anonymousreply 32December 3, 2019 2:16 AM

Rich

Smart

Attractive

Not too queeny, not too straight

Not an entertainer

Credentials comin’ outta my hooha

Changing culture

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by Anonymousreply 33December 3, 2019 2:17 AM

I win!

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by Anonymousreply 34December 3, 2019 2:17 AM

I would love to get behind James Charles...

by Anonymousreply 35December 3, 2019 2:19 AM

Ummmm HELLO! What about me??

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by Anonymousreply 36December 3, 2019 2:20 AM

Mike Bloomberg!

by Anonymousreply 37December 3, 2019 2:35 AM

I take umbrage with your original statement OP. Those people aren’t asking to be role models, you’re putting that burden on them while they are pursuing whatever their dreams may be. I find them inspiring in that they are brave enough to live their own authenticity and succeed in the business world. Bronze medal isn’t too shabby either. I mean, you talk about them like they’re totally useless. Different strokes for different folks.

by Anonymousreply 38December 3, 2019 3:25 AM

"I need a respectable gay male I can get behind"... well, well, are you looking for a role model or a bottom?

by Anonymousreply 39December 3, 2019 3:36 AM

I’d also love to get behind Adam Rippon. Don’t want to exclude any deserving fem bottoms.

by Anonymousreply 40December 3, 2019 3:37 AM

So many of whom would have been the role models for the last part of the 20th century died young. This led a lot of the next generation to have few role models. We're only just starting to get back on our feet from the holocaust and it will probably take yet another generation for gay men to propagate their culture the way they used to.

by Anonymousreply 41December 3, 2019 3:38 AM

Holocaust?

by Anonymousreply 42December 3, 2019 11:55 AM

Frank Ocean wins

by Anonymousreply 43December 3, 2019 12:03 PM

Stephen Fry?

by Anonymousreply 44December 3, 2019 12:10 PM

John Goodman?

by Anonymousreply 45December 3, 2019 12:20 PM

Ahem...

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by Anonymousreply 46December 3, 2019 12:27 PM

Why is OP only thinking about stereotypical campy gay men? Why not focus on out athletes, politicians, hip hop artists, business men?

by Anonymousreply 47December 3, 2019 12:30 PM

Leo Varadkar

by Anonymousreply 48December 3, 2019 12:32 PM

R36, finally, cock and face in one pick

I elect Aaron schock as the most Reviled of gays.

by Anonymousreply 49December 3, 2019 12:35 PM

Tommi DeDario.

by Anonymousreply 50December 3, 2019 12:36 PM

Now here's a hero...

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by Anonymousreply 51December 3, 2019 12:39 PM

R17 Agree, what a wasted potential, completely disappointed.

by Anonymousreply 52December 3, 2019 12:47 PM

R15 Gorgeous, really? I guess to each his own.

by Anonymousreply 53December 3, 2019 12:48 PM

Lil Nas X for sure.

And what's wrong with Adam Rippon?

by Anonymousreply 54December 3, 2019 12:52 PM

R36 oh yes, what about the Cockgobbler. Looks like he may have 5 out of the 7 R33. Can his hot hole and massive pecs get him a pass on the ‘changing culture’ one.

by Anonymousreply 55December 3, 2019 12:57 PM

We really do need a hero. This is sad. I honestly can’t think of a gay man I look up to. The ones in the public eye are all vapid narcissistic assholes (Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen, etc.) Mayor Pete isn’t commanding enough or good looking enough for me to get behind. Matt Bomer and Neil Patrick Harris are just an actors, and seems like huge pussies. Where’s a distinguished, powerful gay man of at least 35 who has accomplishments for the gay community????

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by Anonymousreply 56December 3, 2019 1:19 PM

What gay man can a young boy look up to? Who does he have besides these makeup-wearing YouTube garbage people? When I was young (born 1970) all we tried to do as a youth was hide the fact we were gay; I wasn’t looking for any gay role models. Now it is mainstream and mostly acceptable. I guess they strive to be on RPDR. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 57December 3, 2019 1:32 PM

"Mayor Pete isn’t commanding enough or good looking enough for me to get behind."

How shallow are you?

by Anonymousreply 58December 3, 2019 1:33 PM

Love Lil Nas X

by Anonymousreply 59December 3, 2019 1:36 PM

R58 - I wanted to like him, but he seems like a small, powerless whiny man.

by Anonymousreply 60December 3, 2019 1:36 PM

Greg Louganis

George Takei

by Anonymousreply 61December 3, 2019 1:37 PM

Don't forget Milo!

by Anonymousreply 62December 3, 2019 1:38 PM

R61 - actually those are pretty good examples, but today’s youth won’t have a clue who they are.

by Anonymousreply 63December 3, 2019 1:39 PM

You forgot " not good-looking," R 60.

by Anonymousreply 64December 3, 2019 1:42 PM

Gio Benitez and Tommy Didario

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by Anonymousreply 65December 3, 2019 1:42 PM

Tim Cook?

On October 30, 2014, Cook came out as gay in an editorial for Bloomberg Business, "I'm proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me."[67] He consulted with Anderson Cooper, who had publicly come out himself, on aspects of the statement, and cleared the timing to ensure it would not distract from business interests.[68] Cook had been open about his sexuality "for years" and, while many people at the company were aware of his sexual orientation, he sought to focus on Apple's products and customers rather than his personal life. He ended his op-ed, "We pave the sunlit path toward justice together, brick by brick. This is my brick."[67] Cook became the first and only openly gay CEO on the Fortune 500 list.[68] In September 2015, Cook clarified on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, "Where I valued my privacy significantly, I felt that I was valuing it too far above what I could do for other people, so I wanted to tell everyone my truth."[69] In October 2019, he talked about the decision and remarked on how it was thanks to LGBTQ people who had fought for their rights before him that paved the way for his success; and that he needed to let younger generations know that—in a coding analogy—he saw being gay as a feature his life had to offer rather than any problem.[68] He hoped his openness could help LGBTQ youth dealing with homelessness, and suicide hope that their situation could get better.[68]

by Anonymousreply 66December 3, 2019 1:45 PM

Dan Savage and Terry Miller

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by Anonymousreply 67December 3, 2019 1:45 PM

Frank Ocean is goals.

by Anonymousreply 68December 3, 2019 1:47 PM

Johnny Weir. I don’t know about his personal life, but as an athlete, he is incredibly disciplined, and he was a pioneer in being an out athlete, while being held back and criticized by judges for being too effete and too flamboyant. A lot of professional men skaters are gay, but he had the guts to dress and perform as an out gay athlete, even knowing points were being taken off for doing it and it was holding him back.

While everyone else was in the closet for fear they would lose individual events and it would damage their careers, he was out and proud. He was a trailblazer for others that came after him.

This performance was described by one commenter as, “the gayest thing I have ever seen.”

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by Anonymousreply 69December 3, 2019 1:52 PM

You prudes expect role models to be sexless in 2019 lol

We are sexual beings. Sex is good. Sex is healthy. As is our self-expression of it.

by Anonymousreply 70December 3, 2019 1:54 PM

R70 'Sexless' doesn't mean what you think it does.

by Anonymousreply 71December 3, 2019 1:56 PM

R71 - exactly what do you think “sexless” means?

by Anonymousreply 72December 3, 2019 2:00 PM

This entire list of football players

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by Anonymousreply 73December 3, 2019 2:09 PM

This is a great question, because I'm really struggling to think of good answers. The majority of men who come to mind are the 40+ generation, there are not any younger guys that I consider to be true role models for young gays. The problem seems to be that the guys that are idolised in the gay community are the hot ones who are more known for the contents of their underwear than the content of their character.

I would say that someone like Mike Parrow (Wrestler) who is challenging stereotypes and showing the world that there are different 'types' (for want of a better word) of gay man is important. For a long time the only famous out gay men were singers or camp comedians, and I think a lot of straight people were only ever exposed to that. Sportsmen, businessmen, politicians who are gay and visible are demonstrating that gay men come in all shapes and sizes, and contribute to society in as many ways and at as many levels as straight men.

by Anonymousreply 74December 3, 2019 2:21 PM

Darren Young is a real role model and great guy, the black John Cena

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by Anonymousreply 75December 3, 2019 2:27 PM

ATL Bisexual councilman Antonio Brown

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by Anonymousreply 76December 3, 2019 2:31 PM

R75 - I don’t know about “role model,” but I’d like to see him naked!

by Anonymousreply 77December 3, 2019 2:33 PM

[QUOTE] but she’s rumored to be a huge cunt off-camera

Only by certain DLers who have bupkus to back up their smears.

by Anonymousreply 78December 3, 2019 2:50 PM

No mention of me yet, bitches?

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by Anonymousreply 79December 3, 2019 3:01 PM

R78 - TRUST me she’s a bigger cunt than Ann Coulter.

by Anonymousreply 80December 3, 2019 3:01 PM

[quote]finally, cock and face in one pick

I wouldn't call that a cock -- more of a peen

by Anonymousreply 81December 3, 2019 3:04 PM

Pete. Ronan. Brilliant guys.

by Anonymousreply 82December 3, 2019 3:20 PM

R82 - yes Pete and Ronan have done some good things, but they are just so small and weak. Can we have a powerful, strong, commanding gay man instead of these limp-wristed sissies???

by Anonymousreply 83December 3, 2019 3:25 PM

Zzzzz ^

No bonus vodka for you Oleg

by Anonymousreply 84December 3, 2019 3:26 PM

[quote]Can we have a powerful, strong, commanding gay man instead of these limp-wristed sissies???

WTF is that supposed to mean?

Thanks, I'll take a thinking, intelligent and even provocative man over a porn star every day.

by Anonymousreply 85December 3, 2019 3:27 PM

R83 No. Gay men are gay men. They encompass a spectrum, and that most certainly includes fey, effeminate gay men who have always been terrorized for their mannerisms and no longer should be. Gay men who look down on gay men for being gay need to get over it or jump off a cliff. It’s time for that to die.

And I do not consider people who lucked into good looks to be role models. Role models are people who have strong minds and strong hearts.

by Anonymousreply 86December 3, 2019 3:28 PM

Him.

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by Anonymousreply 87December 3, 2019 3:28 PM

R83, it’s not “small and weak” to do the courageous things they have done.

Pete volunteered to go to war. Then he came out in conservative Indiana, knowing he would run for re-election shortly after and could lose because of it.

Ronan took on the Hollywood powers that be. I’m sure he got death threats. And no one has ever dared to expose what those powerful men had been doing for years. No actor or actress even dared accuse them, for fear they would be blackballed. And many that refused advances of men like Harvey Weinstein lost their careers. But Farrow was able to convince those people to come out. That’s a huge accomplishment in itself.

Both men did things many before them didn’t have the guts to do. Small maybe, but weak? No. They both have brass balls.

by Anonymousreply 88December 3, 2019 3:50 PM

Pete is overrated. He stayed in the closet until gay people became more normalized and gay rights were getting passed. Also, even though it was Indiana, his city is NOT conservative. It's Democrat thanks to the people of color who reside there.

by Anonymousreply 89December 3, 2019 3:59 PM

Matt Bomer, Troye Sivan, Sam Smith, Joey Deacon

by Anonymousreply 90December 3, 2019 4:03 PM

r90

Sam Smith is not a gay male

by Anonymousreply 91December 3, 2019 4:04 PM

Role models don’t have to be celebrities. I’m a part of the LGBT network at work, and all sorts of people at every level are ‘champions’ - utterly hate the word, but I got a lot of support from a very senior member of the network at one point. It was good to be able to approach him and talk honestly about issues I was having.

by Anonymousreply 92December 3, 2019 4:11 PM

Actually, there are more LGBT "role models" now than ever before. Maybe too many.

From the smart, hard working and genuinely inspiring (and kind of hidden, at least to the mob general public)... to the dumb, loud and obnoxious (who tend to grab all the attention, often bad attention)... and literally everything in between.

Decades earlier, they were very few and far between.

by Anonymousreply 93December 3, 2019 4:19 PM

Well, Larry Kramer is a pretty solid role model and he's not dead yet.

A lot of younger people that are working for the eradication of AIDS like Kelsey Louie, or Dr Daskalakis.

Also, heads of government like Xavier Bettel and Leo Varadkar.

There are a lot of gay role models if you're not just looking for a pretty face on Instagram.

by Anonymousreply 94December 3, 2019 4:19 PM

Don't forget about me, bitches!

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by Anonymousreply 95December 3, 2019 4:41 PM

R90 - Sam Smith is a “woman.” Insiders are saying he has now fully transitioned and even scheduled bottom surgery in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 96December 3, 2019 5:00 PM

The governor of Colorado

by Anonymousreply 97December 3, 2019 5:46 PM

Rhode Island Rep. David Cicilline.

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by Anonymousreply 98December 3, 2019 6:57 PM

Who r97 / r98?

by Anonymousreply 99December 3, 2019 7:16 PM

Two gay men that I greatly admire: Douglas Murray and Andrew Doyle.

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by Anonymousreply 100December 3, 2019 7:21 PM

OMG!~ Until r33 I had no idea Ronan Farrow had such a great body. I had thought he was kind of skinny and didn't hit the gym.

by Anonymousreply 101December 3, 2019 7:24 PM

Hidden. Doing the every day stuff. Not being on IG. Not straddling the sexual fence. Fighting in the armed services. Living alone and showing up every day.

by Anonymousreply 102December 3, 2019 7:25 PM

[quote] Well, Larry Kramer is a pretty solid role model

You've got to be kidding. He's like a walking advertisement for anger management seminars.

by Anonymousreply 103December 3, 2019 7:25 PM

No Brian Simms on the list yet?

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by Anonymousreply 104December 3, 2019 7:48 PM

R103 He's an angry asshole and a hero. He's not nice but he's admirable.

by Anonymousreply 105December 3, 2019 8:11 PM

R100 totally agree especially Douglas Murray, he's sexy too in an unconventional way

R94 Larry Kramer good call, a hero who should have been listened too more in the 70's/ 80's

by Anonymousreply 106December 3, 2019 8:16 PM

Am I alone in thinking that DL's obsession with hating on Pete is over the top? What gives?

[quote]He stayed in the closet until gay people became more normalized

The man is in his 30s. When do you expect someone to come out, particularly in a conservative state where they've struggled to treat gay people like humans? When he was fighting in Afghanistan? When he was attending Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar? No, he waited until it could have actually cost him something — his job and political career — to come out, but that doesn't earn him an iota of respect, according to [italic]you[/italic].

[quote]and gay rights were getting passed.

Pray tell, what gay rights getting passed are you talking about? (Hint: marriage wasn't "passed", it was ordered by the Supreme Court.)

[quote]...his city is NOT conservative. It's Democrat thanks to the people of color...

Those would be the people who have gone around reminding everyone that no POC have endorsed Pete, and have bitterly complained that Pete fired the city's first African American police chief (for cause, but they always manage to leave that part out), failed to build bridges with the local black community, and had a poor response to the recent white officer shooting an unarmed black man. Yes, I know that these things are not directly correlated to AA community support, but you can't exactly claim that Pete has had it easy in South Bend because blacks vote Democratic.

Try harder. I know you can find hatred for Pete in your heart, you just need to look deeper.

by Anonymousreply 107December 3, 2019 8:19 PM

Where's our subject-verb agreement?

by Anonymousreply 108December 3, 2019 8:20 PM

R107 - well hello, Pete! Welcome to the DL. I had a feeling you’d been lurking here for a while. I guess we finally triggered you!

by Anonymousreply 109December 3, 2019 8:23 PM

Just because you were presumed gay in elementary school doesn’t mean all gay and bi men must or should be out so soon. Flaming and flamboyant men are out early because they are presumed gay from the start. Masculine gay guys can hide and have more to lose by coming out. Pete came out, but most masculine mainstream guys never do.

by Anonymousreply 110December 3, 2019 8:23 PM

No, I'm not Pete, R109. I just can't believe that on a thread expressing that there are no gay male role models, all we've done is criticize candidate after candidate (for role model, not president), singling out Mayor Pete to highlight, as though all of the accomplishments to his credit don't really matter because... what, he's not a porn star? Or is it that he's just a garden variety homo not predisposed to pandering?

by Anonymousreply 111December 3, 2019 8:30 PM

People!!! Yes Pete is a nice guy, but he’s not a role model. I’m sure there’s several other Pete threads. I’m on the hunt for a strong gay male role model!

by Anonymousreply 112December 3, 2019 8:31 PM

Of course, R112! Who would want to emulate an accomplished, Army veteran, Rhodes Scholar, Mayor and generally smart, young, married guy?

by Anonymousreply 113December 3, 2019 8:36 PM

[quote]The man is in his 30s. When do you expect someone to come out...

The kids these days come out of the womb with one hand in the glitter jar and have zero understanding of personal growth and self-realization/acceptance. If you're not grand marshal of your pre-school pride parade you're a monster.

by Anonymousreply 114December 3, 2019 8:38 PM

Barney "Do you know who I am?"* Frank

* "Rep. Barney Frank apparently got all hot and bothered over a denied $1 senior discount for a Fire Island ferry. What did he expect? He forgot his Suffolk County Senior Citizens ID! There are regulations in this world, Barney Frank."

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by Anonymousreply 115December 3, 2019 8:39 PM

R113, you’re right! We should only admire and emulate porn actors with messy, drama filled lives! God forbid anyone emulate an average looking guy that studied and worked hard, and lives an average lifestyle. That’s so unattainable for the average gay person in a flyover town.

by Anonymousreply 116December 3, 2019 8:39 PM

RuPaul.

by Anonymousreply 117December 3, 2019 10:01 PM

R117 - RuPaul should be shot. He/she set up back 100 years.

by Anonymousreply 118December 3, 2019 10:04 PM

You - literally - made me LOL r118. I'll marry you if you tell me one reason why RuPaul should be shot.

by Anonymousreply 119December 3, 2019 10:21 PM

What about Rostam B or Jason Mraz or Jason Williams or Governor Jared Polis?

by Anonymousreply 120December 3, 2019 10:23 PM

[R104] So hot

by Anonymousreply 121December 3, 2019 10:23 PM

Mine were Dave Pallone and Greg Louganis and Dave Kopay

by Anonymousreply 122December 3, 2019 10:23 PM

Cher.

by Anonymousreply 123December 3, 2019 10:32 PM

Oh you powerbottom r83 you! Love you Mary! I understand why you want to whimper and look up to a big hairy brute as he pounds your hole, but Pete and Ronan have balls of brass, as someone less delicate than you or me put it upthread. And so young! And if they make you change your idea of what it is to be a man or to be gay, all the better!

by Anonymousreply 124December 3, 2019 10:44 PM

Actually, if one is truly WOKE, one would not pick a role model just because they’re a gay man. It could be any of the many genders and sexual preferences.

by Anonymousreply 125December 4, 2019 2:47 AM

R100 Omg I didn't know that the creator of the Queen Titania McGrath is gay! I like him more now and good video.

by Anonymousreply 126December 4, 2019 3:04 AM

I find Mayor Pete a role model and I'm old enough to be his father. Time to get the gerontacracy out of the way and let the Millennials take over

by Anonymousreply 127December 4, 2019 5:29 AM

We have plenty, OP, you're just incredibly out of touch with Millennial and Gen Z gays. This is routinely a problem with Eldergays. The gay guys you listed aren't idols in the gay community, they're entertainment for straight women. Some of the gays I look up to include NPH, Matt Bomer, and Frank Ocean, all of which have done great things for gay men through their celebrity. Once again, it's not that there aren't anymore gay male idols and role models, it's just that the old bitches on here don't understand the newer generations of gays at all. It's why they critique us for being openly sexual all the time. 90% of the DL's userbase are bitter old gays stuck with a Reagan-era mindset.

by Anonymousreply 128December 4, 2019 6:06 AM

There are numerous great role models out there. Ned Price, for example, was a CIA analyst and worked in the Obama Administration for the National Security Council as a special assistant to Obama. He teaches at Georgetown and is a national security commentator for MSNBC. He resigned publicly from the CIA in 2017 because of his distrust of Donald Trump.

Mark Morris has choreographed gorgeous dances for several decades now, and his company also founded a nationwide project of teaching dance to people with Parkinson's Disease to help them stave off disease progression.

Sean Maloney is a gay congressman, who married his partner in 2014, whom he has been with since 1992. They have adopted and raised 3 children. He was one of the best "interrogators" of the Intelligence Committee over the past month.

Michael Tilson Thomas - former conductor of the San Francisco Symphony and composer. Openly gay for decades, has been married since 2014 to his partner of 30 some years.

Numerous dancers, actors, musicians, authors, playwrights, singers, gymnasts, ice skaters, divers, swimmers. When I was young, I had to read between the lines to know that Tchaikowsky was gay. I had to sneak books out of the library to figure out that James Baldwin was gay. Living athletes, politicians, working public figures in the arts, out of the closet and living life openly gay? Forgetaboutit. If a gay character appeared in a film, he was killed off in the course of the movie.

OP sounds as though he expects or deserves a sexually hot genius, who's also a saint to be his gay role model. Good luck with that. The best role models are those who are just living their lives successfully without being or acting ashamed of being who they are.

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by Anonymousreply 129December 4, 2019 8:31 AM

[QUOTE] Sam Smith is a “woman.” Insiders are saying he has now fully transitioned and even scheduled bottom surgery in 2020.

You moron, he still has a full face of thick facial hair and a massive black rug on his chest. No hormones there. He wears high heels and make up, big deal.

by Anonymousreply 130December 4, 2019 12:04 PM

r130

You mean THEY? Sam Smith is non-binary. Stop misgendering them!

by Anonymousreply 131December 4, 2019 12:28 PM

Rupaul, Anderson Cooper, Shaun T, Don Lemon, all role models for me

by Anonymousreply 132December 4, 2019 12:32 PM

R104, nope, we’ve dumped his ass on the curb

by Anonymousreply 133December 4, 2019 1:04 PM

The Senatrice ❤️

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by Anonymousreply 134December 4, 2019 2:09 PM

I prefer the original Sam Smith, Boy George.

RuPaul (who is actually an excellent role model in spite of what the haters up thread think)

Mayor of Chicago

The Queer Eye Guys as a group. I don't pay attention to their personal lives.

Sondheim

by Anonymousreply 135December 4, 2019 2:34 PM

R135 the mayor of Chicago is woman, you daft cunt

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by Anonymousreply 136December 4, 2019 2:38 PM

Alan Turing

by Anonymousreply 137December 4, 2019 3:25 PM

R136 - are u sure the mayor of Chicago isn’t FTM tranny?

by Anonymousreply 138December 4, 2019 7:33 PM

[quote]Where’s our gay male role models?

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 139December 4, 2019 7:45 PM

The first gay I ever saw on TV - Jim J Bullock

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by Anonymousreply 140December 4, 2019 8:04 PM

There are other more significant role models than d-list actors, reality stars and models. In fact, I'm not certain they encourage realistic and positive goals for LGBT youth.

I do believe Mayor Pete is a role model. He's breaking stereotypes and boundaries.

Also: The NYC City Council Speaker Cory. Colorado Governor Jared Polis. Author Chuck Pahluniak. Greg Louganis Olympian. Paul Rudolph Architect. Philip Johnson Architect. Dave Pallone Umpire. Jason Collins Basketball Player. Providence Rhode Island Mayor David Cicciline

by Anonymousreply 141December 5, 2019 12:56 AM

Who r141?

by Anonymousreply 142December 5, 2019 1:04 AM

Jason Collins

by Anonymousreply 143December 5, 2019 1:09 AM

Guy Benson, Fox News Analyst

by Anonymousreply 144December 5, 2019 1:17 AM

Lance Bass

by Anonymousreply 145December 5, 2019 1:23 AM

Shepherd Smith

by Anonymousreply 146December 5, 2019 1:28 AM

In what world is Lance Bass is role model?

by Anonymousreply 147December 5, 2019 1:45 AM

What is it about Lance Bass can we aspire to? What about him makes us proud that he is one of us? Is it because he wrote an autobiography describing his experiences in a boy band?

by Anonymousreply 148December 5, 2019 1:49 AM

R142, you're not familiar with any of those names or professions or offices?

by Anonymousreply 149December 5, 2019 1:50 AM

R4 Gore Vidal did not believe in innate homosexuality and made a point that everyone must be bi or pan. He hated gay men, especially effeminate gay men and didn't want to be categorised as one. Not a role model for gays.

R13 Ricky Martin literally said he's open to having sex with women and doesn't believe in sexual labels. Not a role model for gays.

R67 Dan Savage has told gay men that they need to get over their aversion to vagina, promotes conversion therapy. Not a role model for gays.

R79, Gus Kentworthy lurks around DL posting FTM trans shit. Not a role model for gays.

R9 Adam Lambert, had a good time going down on a lady friend but still insists he's a goldstar gay, appears to be a goldstar idiot. Not a role for gays.

by Anonymousreply 150December 5, 2019 2:08 AM

How about someone who actually knows what the definition of homosexuality is?

by Anonymousreply 151December 5, 2019 2:14 AM

Don't tell me Boyen Salt is 100% straight. Superb role model of the future IMHO.

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by Anonymousreply 152December 5, 2019 2:27 AM

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by Anonymousreply 153December 5, 2019 2:30 AM

I am surprised no one has mentioned the Wrigleyville Cum Dump. He is a national treasure.

by Anonymousreply 154December 5, 2019 2:31 AM

So many people are unaware of the leaders of yesteryear, like James Hormel

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by Anonymousreply 155December 5, 2019 2:41 AM

r150, you've been duped. The article that says that Dan Savage supports conversion therapy was in the ONION.

by Anonymousreply 156December 5, 2019 7:05 AM

I’ll be your role model!!! I look fabulous in a dress and my legs are rockin’! Smooches!!!! 💋

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by Anonymousreply 157December 5, 2019 10:57 AM

Oh no hunty ^^^^ I wore it way better! I’m something every young gay man should want to be 💪

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by Anonymousreply 158December 5, 2019 10:59 AM

Our gay forefathers would be repulsed. They fought for our rights so we could wear dresses and speak “black girl ghetto.”

by Anonymousreply 159December 5, 2019 11:01 AM

[quote]speak “black girl ghetto.”

Was the valley girl-speak of the 80s and 90s any better?

by Anonymousreply 160December 5, 2019 1:07 PM

r147 r148

He's married, in a committed relationship, and a baby is on the way,

He's learned from his past mistakes and has a lot of knowledge and advice, especially for young gays. He inspires people.

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by Anonymousreply 161December 5, 2019 1:15 PM

r161, we don't want anyone who has learned lessons as a role mode. We want spiritually and morally pure virgins from the start!

by Anonymousreply 162December 5, 2019 1:22 PM

I'm glad others have called out OP's post as ridiculous.

Others have pointed out obvious examples in politics and the arts.

Not sure if they've been mentioned already but it's easy to reel off gay men doing important work in literature and the arts -- writers like Garth Greenwell, Ocean Vuong and Danez Smith, and musicians like Nico Muhly, Mike Hadreas and Rostam Batmanglij.

by Anonymousreply 163December 5, 2019 1:33 PM

GayBoy22 is a personal role model of mine.

by Anonymousreply 164December 5, 2019 1:58 PM

I'm glad R156 debunked the theory that Dan Savage promoted conversion therapy (because that would, if true, be horrible) but there many, many other reasons to preclude Savage from role model leadership, beginning with his hypocrisy on sexual conduct to poor judgement in his personal life (since his personal life is his professional life). When I lost respect for Savage was when, years ago, he attended IML and professed to gay men about expressing their sexual preferences but then shunned people who were doing just that (and, of course, turns around a few years later and engages in the same behavior he was shunning).

Which begs the question, is ideological consistency required for role model status? Is this the reason that so many gay men and potential role models never get the credit they deserve, given that an integral part of gay life is coming to terms with your otherness? Of course I'm talking about coming out, which we rightly celebrate as a community, but as the comments on this thread show, if not done according to the standard of the moment, even this act of bravery and leadership gets misconstrued into an act of shame. And then the standards change (or as R114 puts it, being born with one hand in the glitter jar), and coming out (no matter how much) later in life turns into a detriment. It's no wonder we lack consensus on who among us leads.

by Anonymousreply 165December 5, 2019 3:25 PM

There is nothing admirable about Dan Savage.

by Anonymousreply 166December 5, 2019 4:42 PM

R156, No, he said this in his Savage Love "advice" column, try reading it sometime. He'd said that gay men need to be more "open-minded" to dating/fucking masculinized women and that their enlarged clit is no different to a penis and that gay men just need to use their "imagination". That is literally conversion therapy. And he's made similar remarks about lesbians. He's been saying disgusting homophobic shit like this for years now. He calls gay men who have boundaries assholes and he seems to have some weird issue with goldstar gays simply for being goldstar.

by Anonymousreply 167December 5, 2019 5:09 PM

Dan Savage seems like a disgusting human being, no matter what his sexuality may be.

by Anonymousreply 168December 5, 2019 5:26 PM

Link R167

by Anonymousreply 169December 5, 2019 5:42 PM

R141 Phillip Johnson was an anti-Semite and a Nazi when he was young and a nasty right-wing piece of work as he aged.

Not a role model.

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by Anonymousreply 170December 5, 2019 7:17 PM

r167, yeah, a quick google search using key words dan savage gay men should be open minded dating women came up with nothing but a straight man dating a pre-op transwoman. (Dan Savage says, if you can't deal with a penis on a woman, don't feel bad - it's probably hard-wired in you). I'm thinking you're making this up, but I'll be happy to change my mind if you produce an actual link

Mind you, I respect Dan Savage for the most part, but I wouldn't put him up as a gay role model because he's made some questionable decisions over the past few years.. On the other hand, his "It gets better" campaign has undoubtedly saved hundreds of young gay lives. (Gay kids who were contemplating suicide and changed their minds). So he's a complex and self-contradictory figure, as the vast majority of us are.

by Anonymousreply 171December 5, 2019 7:20 PM

George takei is a better person

by Anonymousreply 172December 6, 2019 6:13 PM

r172

Didn't he rape a boy in his trailer? How is that a good role model? He should be in jail

by Anonymousreply 173December 6, 2019 6:24 PM

Agree with R172 about George Takei. Plus he's remarkably funny when he's on the Howard Stern show.

U.S. Ambassador to Romania Michael Guest

Jason Mraz

by Anonymousreply 174December 7, 2019 1:42 PM

R173 - the young boy was a huge fan and apparently “wanted it.” That’s why no charges were pursued.

by Anonymousreply 175December 7, 2019 1:51 PM

Um HELLO

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by Anonymousreply 176December 7, 2019 1:57 PM

Beside the fact he’s dreamy, no one wants to talk about how he did the world a favor by getting rid of future welfare recipients and criminals. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

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by Anonymousreply 177December 7, 2019 2:08 PM

R177 - damn he was beautiful....look at those eyes 😍

by Anonymousreply 178December 7, 2019 2:11 PM

R177, have the lambs stopped screaming yet?

by Anonymousreply 179December 7, 2019 2:13 PM

I’d say Ian Somerhalder has a slight edge over Jeffrey Dahmer based on Somerhalder’s choice not to EAT PEOPLE.

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by Anonymousreply 180December 7, 2019 2:14 PM

R173 actually he didnt do anything of the sort

From Wikipaedia;

[quote] On May 24, 2018, the New York Observer's Shane Snow reported that Brunton had "changed his story," describing his encounter with Takei as a "great party story" and confessing to "not remembering any touching" of his genitalia. Snow also consulted toxicologists, who opined Brunton likely had postural hypotension rather than a drugged drink, and a former Senior Deputy District Attorney, who opined "there’s nothing to prosecute" if it was the case that Takei stopped physical contact with Brunton after being denied consent.

From reading the rest of the article have to agree with R172, George Takei is genuinely pretty decent, good role model material

by Anonymousreply 181December 7, 2019 2:25 PM

r177 r178

You're both white trash, quite frankly.

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by Anonymousreply 182December 7, 2019 2:28 PM

Chris Salvatore

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by Anonymousreply 183December 7, 2019 2:53 PM

She’s sexy

by Anonymousreply 184December 8, 2019 2:20 AM

*Olympic Medalist* Adam Rippon's been a good role model for me. But I feel like I need to apologize to the OP for this.

by Anonymousreply 185January 24, 2020 1:19 AM

Hey R185, Olympian Adam Rippon IS a positive role model and a good person.

by Anonymousreply 186January 24, 2020 1:23 AM

Larry Kramer! Screaming his way into the 2020s!

by Anonymousreply 187January 24, 2020 1:25 AM

I think the OP meant tops. There’s no way I could have a bottom for a role model.

by Anonymousreply 188January 24, 2020 1:26 AM

I think Raymond Braun is fantastic and a great role model.

by Anonymousreply 189January 24, 2020 1:33 AM

R186 He was the first openly gay athlete to qualify for the winter Olympics. I mean I know somebody had to be first, and someone else would have been, eventually, and maybe it's not such a big deal - but Adam *was* the first.

Btw, I don't think he's trashy at all, you big friggin snob.

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by Anonymousreply 190January 24, 2020 1:34 AM

Honey, Congressman Sean Patrick Maloney and Chasten Stand-By-Your-Man Buttigiege are two gay role models that come to mind.

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by Anonymousreply 191January 24, 2020 1:36 AM

R191, thank you for posting their names. You are correct. They are positive role models.

by Anonymousreply 192January 24, 2020 1:58 AM

Sorry, what's so great about Chasten Buttigieg?

by Anonymousreply 193January 24, 2020 2:03 AM

Does Chasten even have a job?

by Anonymousreply 194January 24, 2020 2:24 AM

You dont have to be a perfect person to be a role model. Role models are steadfast people who have handled their lives the best the could, made proper amends for times they didn't. Those are admirable qualities.

by Anonymousreply 195January 24, 2020 2:42 AM

Dustin Lance Black and Tom Daley are good role models.

by Anonymousreply 196January 24, 2020 2:45 AM

Chasten is just a normal gay man put into a spotlight and doing a great job managing the responsibility of being a first gay spouse in an American Presidential Primary. IDK, I think it's ok for a normal guy to be a role model. Maloney has 2024 written all over him, cause we all know how 2020 will end up.

P.S, 2024 will be the year for the young Dems to show out. Pete 2.0, Maloney (fingers crossed), Congressman (No, Senator) Kennedy, Senator Harris 2.0, (still in the closet) Booker 1.5, CA Gov Newsom, and maybe AOC depending on her profile over the next two terms. I predict that 2.5 gays will be running.

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by Anonymousreply 197January 24, 2020 2:46 AM

Gus Kenworthy is awsome.

by Anonymousreply 198January 24, 2020 3:41 AM

Judge Cameron:

Helped get protection against sexual orientation discrimination added to the first democratic South African constitution (in the early 90s)

Was an anti-apartheid activist as a lawyer and academic

First out gay judge in Africa

One of the first openly HIV+ South Africans

Served on the highest court in the country and on several important commissions of enquiry

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by Anonymousreply 199January 24, 2020 10:40 AM

R190 is that him in the gif? He's gorgeous, so hot!

by Anonymousreply 200January 24, 2020 10:16 PM

Adam Rippon makes me vomit.

by Anonymousreply 201January 24, 2020 10:23 PM

R200 Yeah that's him, he's adorable af.

by Anonymousreply 202January 24, 2020 11:50 PM

R200 Yeah that's him, he's adorable af.

by Anonymousreply 203January 24, 2020 11:50 PM

These guys are pretty decent role models, they're both talented photographers - they've taken a lot of pics of their friends Like, their pics of Froy which you can see everywhere online., As well as Miss Benny (Ben J. Pierce), and a lot of 'young Hollywood' actors and models. Just seem like nice guys and they're making a name and a life for themselves in LA.

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by Anonymousreply 204January 25, 2020 12:41 AM

R190 - is Adam Rippon FTM or MTF? I can’t decide, I just know he must be a tranny.

by Anonymousreply 205January 25, 2020 10:11 AM

Leave Adam alone!!!!! The only Olympic sport any of you would ever qualify for is pencil dialing

by Anonymousreply 206February 2, 2020 3:20 AM

Pete Buttigieg is the closest Gay Men have to a role model. He is a superstar in the making.

by Anonymousreply 207February 2, 2020 3:24 AM

You're a massive asshole R205.

by Anonymousreply 208February 2, 2020 4:25 AM

It's funny I met with Cicilline also met Lincoln Chafee, know Senator Sheldon Whitehouse. One thing about Rhode Island I was as politically connected as one could get. Not so much down here in Georgia but give me time.

by Anonymousreply 209February 2, 2020 3:42 PM

I agree with (and compliment) R197.

yes, we will see more married gay guys running for congress, for mayor and for governor in 2024.

If Mayor Pete doesn't make the ticket, I'd suggest he consider running for senator from Indiana. His coverage and popularity and name recognition will help Mayor Pete flip one of the Indiana senate seats (and the Senate).

by Anonymousreply 210February 2, 2020 4:01 PM

I model myself after Andy Cohen. Jealous, basic bitches?

by Anonymousreply 211February 2, 2020 4:28 PM

I love Mayor Pete so much. He’s the most intelligent politician I’ve ever listened to and speaks so eloquently. I actually wish he weren’t gay because he could actually win the dem nomination and probably the Presidency. We need young, intelligent, non-corrupt blood in that corrupt swamp.

by Anonymousreply 212February 7, 2020 1:19 PM

Jared Pollis

by Anonymousreply 213February 7, 2020 1:24 PM

R213 - who?

by Anonymousreply 214February 7, 2020 1:33 PM

R214, gay Governor of Colorado.

by Anonymousreply 215February 7, 2020 2:52 PM

R212 I cringed violently reading your post. Was it written by a 12 years old kid? Calm the fuck down

by Anonymousreply 216February 7, 2020 2:59 PM

Rob Halford:

A role model for those of us who grew up enjoying hard rock and metal.

by Anonymousreply 217February 10, 2020 2:15 AM
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