Joaquin Phoenix Feeds His Dogs A Vegan Diet

I would think you would have to give them nutritional supplements, that fruits and vegetables are not enough.

Flake!

He can play Free Waterfall, Jr. if they ever make a live-action [italic]Futurama[/italic] movie.

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If that's true he's an idiot. Dogs can survive on a vegan diet (contrary to cats), but obviously it's not their natural nutrition. No wolf would choose a vegan diet over a carnivore diet. If you're vegan and want pets, sure, just don't get dogs. Or cats.

Dogs are carnivores. They eat meat.

They did not evolve to have teeth just so they could eat dried up chunks of brown powder.

Not only are fruits and vegetables not enough, but a pure vegetable diet can have disastrous consequences. I read somewhere that sweet potatoes were good for dogs, so I cooked a large one for my two Siberian Huskies to share.. It was a literal shitbomb. It kicked in a couple of hours after they ingested it, and they had projectile diarrhea all over the yard. A LOT of it. It was totally disgusting. I had to completely hose down the whole yard, watching a sea of dog diarrhea overflow the curb and run into the gutter toward the storm drain.

Joaquin Phoenix should be horsewhipped for doing that to his dogs.

Thanks for the vivid picture R8 lol. But true.

Flake. Dogs (and cats) have evolved to eat meat. I’d argue it is almost neglectful to treat them otherwise.

Pumpkin brings the same result, R8. And the smell would curl concrete.

haha, yeah, you have to introduce things like sweet potatoes (anything high fiber or protein) slowly in small amounts.

while dogs can be on a vegan diet and remain healthy it is difficult to get the proper amount of fats and protein they need. much like babies. his dogs do seem well cared for though. I would be suspicious of anyone doing vegan for their dogs however.

Is the author of this article a vegetarian flake?

It is abuse, unless the dog has some unlikely medical condition that requires a vegan diet.

Such as, R14?

All cats are Obligate Carnivores while Dogs are Facultative Carnivores. Which means that cats need meat and not vegetables which are mostly useless to them. Dogs also need meat but can for a very short period subsist on vegetables but not as a long term diet.

Veterinary experts say it is possible for dogs to survive on a vegan diet, but it's not easy and must be done with the guidance of a veterinary professional experienced in canine dietary requirements.

So hopefully Joaquin has an experienced person involved.

You also have to make sure the dogs aren't supplementing their diet while you aren't watching, unless you keep them indoors 24/hours. And if you let your cats out you can bet they are shopping on their own.

Again with the vegan-obsessed OP lol.

Uh huh. I've never started a thread about veganism, R19.

You don’t live in a major city, do you, OP?

How is Iowa?

I have to laugh at this thread. Most dogs living off pet food are not eating meat, they're eating a mix of 99% soy and proteins and sometimes as low as 1% leftover carcass of poultry or cattle, that is mostly bones. They're already mostly vegetarian and they're not dying, are they?

Canned/bagged food is formulated to supply pets with vitamins and minerals they need to be healthy.

This is a abusive. Like people who refuse their kids anything not vegan. The cult behavior doesn’t let go. His mother is s creepy nut. Still. She yammers on about animal torture shit to an obnoxious degree. She reminds me of -and looks just like - that insane woman from NYC- 6th Ave who abused passers by with disgusting s/m porn and animal torture. Phoenix hangs around his moron family too much.

Wysong and Halo have vegan dog food. I’m pretty sure it’s good. No tumors and entrails like standard dog food.

Soy should be made illegal for internal use. It ridiculous that poison is marketed as a food.

[quote] Canned/bagged food is formulated to supply pets with vitamins and minerals they need to be healthy.

Still not meat. I couldn't care less about giving vegan diets or not to dogs, but this pearl clutching assuming dogs will die if they don't eat meat is false, as attested by the formula on pet food.

R22 Wrong. Don't disseminate random bullshit that will adversely affect the health of dogs. That is simply irresponsible.

I'm not advertising shit, I'm speaking a reality you attest by reading the labels. Now crawl back to your safe space and fuck off.

I don’t think the pet will die as much as it’s just sadistic to keep meat from an animal who’s nature would be meat eating. It’s unnecessary to bring his human neurosis to his dog. Jesus.

I don’t think the pet will die as much as it’s just sadistic to keep meat from an animal who’s nature would be meat eating. It’s unnecessary to bring his human neurosis to his dog. Jesus.

Feeding your pets no meat is abuse. Period. His heart is in the right place, but cats and dogs are not designed to only eat plant based foods. They need meat.

R22 You’re right! Most pet food is junk and has a negligible amount of protein in it. However there is at least some. Ideally you want to give your animals and nice balance. However, feeding your cat or dog no meat at all is abuse.

Joaquin needs to take a stroll along the wild hog infested plains of Texas.

[quote]You don’t live in a major city, do you, OP? How is Iowa?

I live in a city with 700,000 people and I don't live in the U.S.

Cruel. Vegans are fucking insane.

What I wouldn't give to lick the food bowls of Mr. Phoenix's lucky dogs.

Dogs can survive on just about any old crap but cats have to have meat in some form in their diets

They've been making commercial Vegan dog food for 40 years.

No dogs are reported to have died eating it.

There's still a difference between not dying and having the most fitting, natural nutrition. People can also survive on space food, but nobody would recommend or enjoy eating like that unless you have to.

[quote]You don’t live in a major city, do you, OP? How is Iowa?

Most of the posters agree with me. That makes you a hardcore vegan flake.

R40 Commercial vegan dog food is massively fortified with minerals, vitamins and hydrogenated vegetable fat. It's a good replacement for a meat based diet and probably healthier than the diet that most vegan people eat.

Biggest bonus is less stomach disturbances for your dog.

I'm not a vegan by any stretch BTW, but I've seen dogs with big health issues improve greatly on a Vegetarian/Vegan diet.

I once worked with a guy whose wife decided to become a vegetarian. Even worse, she dragged the whole family into it. The only one safe was the dog, who continued getting canned dog food. The idiot mom couldn't understand why her 2-year-old started eating out of the dog's dish. I don't think anyone should be veggan or vegetarian.

The dogs go out and hunt mice at night.

r42 A hiking FaceBook group I belong to had a woman who made her family go paleo. Fine for the teens and adults, not so much for the energetic six year old twins who were starving because they didn’t get enough calories.

She was pissed because they children wolfed down the chicken salad and cucumber water she packed for their lunch during morning tea, and their teacher noticing they were starving would buy them juice and a banana and a sandwich, all verboten, and sent home a concerned letter.

She would also get embarrassed because when she went shopping in the local village the children would pull out half eaten doughnuts and fries from the bins.

She asked for advice about how to make them stick to their meal plans and thankfully got no sympathy.

Y’all don’t know shit. I’ve been a vegetarian all my life. I was raised that way. My dog is 15 years old and I’ve never fed him meat. He’s also a vegetarian...not by choice...but, he never goes hungry. I buy a vegetarian kibble but he eats LOTS of people food.Dogs are omnivores, not carnivores. They are opportunistic eaters. At 15, my dog is still healthy and vibrant, though he is slowing down because he’s an older guy now. Most ‘dog food’ is poison. You think they put good meat in there? No. A dog can be healthy on a vegetarian diet. Our dog loves just about anything we are eating and usually gets our leftovers or a small portion just for him. Another thing; he’s never had diarrhea or loose stools the entire time. I attribute this to his diet. He’s not eating poison.

This why people hate vegans.

They are never okay with it just being their personal choice, they want to force other people and even fuckin animals into their own warped view.

Thank god he doesn't have cats, you can't do shit with cats.

My basset would suffocate me in my sleep if I made her go vegan.

[quote]Dogs are omnivores, not carnivores.

Wrong.

Dogs are carnivores. Humans are omnivores. And Vegans are morons.

I feed my dogs steaks from QVC once or twice a week. Because life is short, and even shorter for dogs. If those steaks are good enough for David Venable, then they're good enough for my pups! They eat chicken, salmon, and hamburger the rest of the week. And a little Iams lamb dog food at night. My boy dog is a rescue who was put in the pound twice and on death row. My girl is my deceased Mother's dog. My Mom only fed her people food for 11 years. I've had her almost two years now. They are happy dogs!

[quote]I'm speaking a reality

Then post a link to this reality that says only 10% of pet food is meat and 90% is fillers, grains and vegetables.

I checked a few brands I could think of off the top of my head and they were all higher in meat byproducts than 10%. But would love to see your "reality." So post a link.

[quote]You think they put good meat in there? No.

Do you think dogs only eat the "good" lean muscle meat off of animals they kill? Buddy, they're eating the entrails and bad bits that make up meat byproduct in foods, and they eat it off all sorts of critters, not just cows.

R46

If you’re open-minded, you should watch the documentary Pet Fooled and then do further research as to why dogs need to eat meat.

In evolutionary terms, canis lupus familiaris (dogs) are basically just resized wolves and biologically categorized as a subspecies of the wolf. 25,000 years or more of canine domestication is absolutely nothing in comparison to the millions of years of development they've gone through as a species.

Scientifically, the species Canis lupus familiaris (dogs) are in the Order of the Carnivora. Carnivora is Latin for "flesh devourer" as unpleasant as that might sound. Its physical attributes include sharp teeth and powerful claws which have adapted to facilitate the catching and eating of other animals.

Dogs are in the suborder of Caniformia and will supplement their diet with occasional ripe fruit and berries unlike their distant cousins, the Feliformia (cats) who rely on a totally meat based diet.

Dogs' health us put at risk on a strict vegetarian diet which is not natural for them unlike humans who do well on a plant based diet. Cats cannot survive on a vegetarian diet - period. To alter their diet based on your socio-political, humanitarian, ethical, or environmental philosophy is inhumane and your pet should be handed over to the local pet welfare agency for a health evaluation and re-adopted to a more knowledgeable and accommodating family.

This is a stupid thread with a lot of stupid replies from armchair dietitians with broken google fingers. Yes, dogs can be vegan. Cats cannot. There are a number of places that now sell balanced vegan dog food but it’s expensive. But your dog will live longer and have less health problems. Fact.

Saying dogs live longer and healthier if they don't eat meat is like saying cows live longer and healthier if they don't eat grass. You don't need google for finding the flaw in that logic.

For R8, the famous “I has a sweet potato” story. I swear, this went “viral” before anyone used the phrase in conjunction with the internet.

R49, do you understand what the word omnivore and carnivore means? You seem not to. If dogs were carnivores they would only eat meat. This is demonstrably not true, they will eat anything - hence they are omnivores. Your hatred of veganism seems to have diminished your mental capacity somewhat.

That said I don't agree with putting dogs on vegetarian/vegan diets unless there is a medical reason for doing so. Humans have the choice to control their diet according to their beliefs but pets do not. I feel guilty enough that I can't give my dog certain types of meat due to allergies so I don't want to restrict him even further.

Oh and sweet potatoes are good for dogs but I'd recommend the dried kind, like sweet potato jerky, over fresh.

R55 I'm not here to argue against vegetarianism which I hold in great esteem. I'm here to argue that a vegetarian diet for a dog is not the most healthful natural diet.

If you're a committed vegetarian and an animal lover, an excellent option to consider, believe it or not, is the domestic or fancy rat (Rattus norvegicus domestica). They have an incredibly adaptive diet which allows them to flourish with a proper nutritionally balanced vegan diet. Pot bellied pigs likewise can readily subsist on a vegetarian diet and live for15 years or more. The ferret, like the cat, will not survive on a vegetarian diet so is not an appropriate pet for vegans who avoid meat for their animal companions.

We have to manage our personal philosophies in a way that doesn't harm innocents. Vegans should not impose their lifestyle habits on innocent pets who are ill adapted to a strictly vegetarian diet. Just like vegetarians avoid meat and fur coats, they should also avoid dog and cat ownership if a natural pet diet that includes meat offends their sensitivities. Again, I think highly of vegetarianism and its philosophy and motivations but we can't cause further harm to our domestic fur buddies. 😻🐭🐶🐰

This is animal abuse! Someone report him.

[quote]Soy should be made illegal for internal use. It ridiculous that poison is marketed as a food.

White people 🙄🙄🙄

[quote]But your dog will live longer and have less health problems. Fact.

Where's your evidence from an impartial source?

R62 There is no evidence to support that and in fact evolutionary theory, or Darwinism, completely destroys this concept that the canis lupus familiaris could ever be a natural vegetarian. This debunked theory that any Mammalian from the order Carnivora can healthily survive on a vegetarian diet is a theory only for those who eschew science. Think climate change deniers.

True, R63. Vegans belong to a fanatical cult. The health benefits of a vegan diet in dogs are a foregone conclusion. They don't need evidence.

Vegan diet is shit, just look at Meghan Markle.

But OP = Tom Hank's PR, jump-starting his Oscar campaign now!

Wrong, R65. I represent the beef lobby.

I give my kitties a treat of boiled pork or chicken a couple times a week. I chop it up in tiny bits and they wolf it down.

^^^ Fresh cooked meat is a great addition to a nutritionally balanced diet as well as being healthier and more economical that processed kitty treats. Same for dogs. When chicken breast is on sale buy a batch, roast or poach, cool then slice thinly, bag and freeze. You will not get a better or cheaper pet snack at $2.99/lb with just about zero effort.

Poor hound. I bet Rain told Joaquin to do this and he just didn't question it. They're both PETA (booo) people, right?

Just because your older sister is letting you hit it doesn't mean she should have complete vega-Nazi control over your life, Leaf.

I hate him now

Thick cunt.

Why have his dogs got fangs? To rip grass to pieces?

Wow he just lost a fan in me. What a fucking kook. I’m not a vegan, but one day I might be. I’m a pescatarian right now and don’t eat dairy. I strictly do it for my love of animals. Having said that, it is cruel and moronic to impose that diet unto an animal that can not biologically sustain it. Dogs and cats can not sustain a strictly plant based diet. Period. It’s science!

Canines (Fangs) are primarily used for combat. Hippo's have much bigger fangs than dogs and eat grass.

most dog food has meat byproducts and its what most people feed their dogs. God only knows whats in it. My dog recently had a tumor in her jaw and had to have part of the jaw removed and was on soft food only for a while. I was giving her baked potatos and sometimes sweat potatoes along with other people food and she never had diahr..........

I know there is alot of anti vegan sentiment on datalounge but I would suggest you sometime watch the dvd/movie entitled........... knives over forks. The FDA has brainwashed our population into how much protein is really necessary and what a supposed balanced diet is....................additionally how and also what animals have to go thru to end up on your plate is pretty awful. Think about it.

My niece is a senior veterinary surgeon and she doesn't feed her dogs canned food or commercially prepared treats (they dehydrate their own).

She feeds her dogs on Vitalin mixed with a little freshly cooked chicken or fish, it's not a vegan diet but consists of less than 20% meat including the amount in the Vitalin.

She has very healthy happy dogs.

Here you go. More proof that vegans are evil.

I only feed my dogs Beyond meat. I would feed Impossible meat but it’s impossible to find.

I was taught in Biology class that dogs were wolves that evolved to become pets of humans. Dogs are not wolves anymore.

Dogs watch human eyes for queues of what to do for instance. Ever see a cat pay attention to your every move? Wolves do not pay attention either.

Dogs evolved to eat what humans eat. Humans are omnivores. Dogs are omnivores. Both need meat now and then. Omnivores should eat plants too. Both are required for a healthy diet. Sorry, vegans, you are nutz.

Forgot to say. ..

Dog's main function in ancient times with humans was to hunt for food with humans. That was their job.

My dogs live off lungs hearts and liver, all uncooked. They are thriving.

Feeding your pets a vegan diet is akin to animal abuse. Cats and dogs need meat.

I wouldn't think of going to sleep or turning my back on my dog, after I had offered her only cucumber and avocado for dinner.