CBS publicity photo of teen idol Philip McKeon, from TV's "Alice."

I don't think Philip McKeon was really ever a "teen idol."

Then explain this dreamy pin-up poster of him, r1!

I seem to remember a running joke about his obsession with the Farrah Fawcett poster.

^is that a young Martina?

His sister is Nancy McKeon. They strongly resemble one another. DNA!

The sibs

He was Jimmy to her Krisy McNicol, si parva licet componere magnis.

You could buy a pin-up photo of BOTH McKeon siblings, and figure out which one you were more attracted to!

While looking for more photos of the two together, I came across THIS!

Oh MY!

Not cute, never was. Sorry.

twink package.

OP pic looks like it should be on a milk carton.

It was hard to imagine how Linda Lavin could have produced a son who looked like that.

Alice is now unwatchable.

Who told Linda and Bonnie Franklin that they could sing? Whenever they did the talk show circuit, they'd sing and there was nothing, nothing impressive about their vocal styles. They both thought that they were song stylists and I say HELL NO.

He was to Miss Lavin what Diana Scarwid was to Miss Dunaway:

"Pin-up?? I'll pin him up."

"Alice doesn't live here any more? NO. Philip doesn't live here any more, because he's a lippy little punk and I'm gonna throw him off the fucking set."

"He and his sister should be cleaning floors at White Castle, not trying to act on the public airwaves. I starred in Neil Simon on Broadway, for Christ's sake, now I'm trying to get McKeon to play Tawmmy without fudging his goddam line ten times in a row,"

Pin-up, teen idol

R17 That picture qualifies as pedophilia.

He suffers from tiny nips syndrome.

He was an awful, wooden child actor who looked nothing like her. A real missed opportunity to have an interesting dynamic between mother and son.

He was not a looker. She was never t hat bad looking. The genes worked better on her.

Maybe Tommy favored the baby daddy, who we never saw.

Linda laVIn was clearly fucking Vic taback

Why was his mother unable to pronounce his name? Maybe she should have practiced before signing the birth certificate and chosen another? Or I guess since the movie predated it, she should have been made to say his name during auditions and summarily dismissed when she couldn’t say it correctly.

As a youngster, I always thought this kid was ugly.

More teen idol pin-up

70’s teen Lin ups were so creepy. Did the photog tell him to open that top and show that nip?

In the movie Alice's baby daddy was sexy Billy Green Bush. Then he died.

You bitches know how much I love it when you go in on Linda Lavin. Please continue.

Huge dick and he knew how to use it.

Does anyone think Philip was pulling in hot ass during the early Alice years?

R27 One does wonder if the staff of Tiger Beat and Teen Beat were primarily made up of pedophiles. But those pictures of Dirk Benedict in shirtless white overalls were the touchstone of my young gayling life.

Nancy McKeon was indeed not that unattractive, but she was encouraged to look really butch and horsey for the part of Jo, and of course she was unforgettable in that part.

Philip looked something like Prince Charles.

Did Ellen Burstyn not want to play the role on tv?

The bulging unzippered short short, jeans shorts were nothing to scoff at too.

No way he was biologically related to Lavin...but I might have bought him as the spawn of Polly Holliday.

Burstyn wasn't interested, but Alfred Lutter played Tommy in the TV pilot again, but was dropped.

How come Flo didn't return to Alice after her show tanked?

R39 Because Linda hated her fucking guts.

CBS had a real problem in the early years of "Alice" because Polly holliday was the breakout star, and Linda Lavin was super-resentful. They felt they couldn't get rid of Lavin because she was playing the title character, so their solution was to give Flo her own spin-off. It flopped, but not only had they replaced Holliday already with Diane Ladd as Belle, but Holliday had decided by that time she didn't want to be typecast as Flo and wanted to go back to theater. She never did the character again.

Of course, the irony was that audiences didn't like Ladd as Belle (even though Ladd is a superb actress and originally had played Flo in the movie), so they replaced her with Celia Weston. By this time Lavin realized the network executives were kissing her ass so she wouldn't leave, and so they caved in to her weird demands, which included re-recording ever jazzier versions of the show's theme song every season (which was much lampooned) and repeatedly playing that weird male gangster character in drag.

He looks like Napoleon Dynamite. Pass

I always thought they should’ve had Burstyn guest star on the show. Of course La Lavin would’ve hit the roof. Ellen won an Oscar, while Lavin could only manage one Emmy nom for the show for nearly ten years.

He's a hateful Trumper asshole now, so he can just find a raging grease fire and leap headfirst into it for all I care.

He was a news producer for KFWB radio in LA for years.

Q: How did it become obvious that Alice was into BDSM?

A: Because kicking herself for nothing was her....favorite sport

There have already been several threads on this OP. Would it have killed you to have done a search first before you posted this? I mean really? What’s wrong with having a little consideration for others and doing a search first? Would it really have been that hard? Would it? Are you going to be able to give us an honest answer to this? Are you?

Hey, I heard my name mentioned, along with the show Alice, of which I was the star. You want to know if I can sing the theme song after all these years? Well, yes I can, and will. Thanks for asking!

If he transitioned, this is what he would look like today.

R49, he really does kinda look like that now...

To whom is he more closely related: Princess Anne or Sarah Jessica Parker?

[quote]Who told Linda and Bonnie Franklin that they could sing? Whenever they did the talk show circuit, they'd sing and there was nothing, nothing impressive about their vocal styles. They both thought that they were song stylists and I say HELL NO.

You apparently didn't see Linda's knockout turn as Mama Rose.

R48 That explains why she didn't win her Tony for a musical.

has he died?

No. He's fine. He sends his love.

R52 I won't be able to unsee that

R50 You shouldn't have posted that. it's too much ugly for a single photo.

[quote] I always thought they should’ve had Burstyn guest star on the show.

As who? Unfortunately, the part of Henry was already cast from the beginning.

He was ugly cute like Ron Howard was for a brief time.

TAWWWWM-my!

No...he was and is ugly. It’s okay, not everyone is meant to be beautiful.

Supposedly they fired Alfred Lutter after the pilot because they thought he looked a little too old. So then they hire a kid who shoots up to 6'5" over the next couple of seasons. Smart.

R60 are you OP.

R60 are you OP.?

They were in Arizona. Vera has a Midwestern accent. Lavin, McKeon and Tayback sound like they live in Brooklyn. Polly is hardcore southern...

Did they all go out there on a Trailways bus?

[quote] Did they all go out there on a Trailways bus?

Yes. Or a station wagon.

[Quote]Lavin, McKeon and Tayback sound like they live in Brooklyn.

Alice and Tommy are originally from New Jersey. Close enough.

I didn’t know that Beth Howland was married to Charles Kimbrough from MURPHY BROWN. For some reason she reminded me of Katharine Hepburn.

He was great in his role as Bob Newhart's secretary. Here he is on MatchGame

He used to make me tingle down there, before I knew what that tingle meant...

Not cute.

R70 VD?

[quote] He used to make me tingle down there, before I knew what that tingle meant...

God, I hope you are talking about Vic Tayback.

Major BDF

[quote]They were in Arizona. Vera has a Midwestern accent. Lavin, McKeon and Tayback sound like they live in Brooklyn. Polly is hardcore southern...Did they all go out there on a Trailways bus?

Phoenix was a huge destination city in the 70s. It's when the population grew by leaps and bounds.

Vera was from Boston, Alice and Tommy from NJ, Flo from Texas, Belle from Mississippi and Jolene from South Carolina, and Mel from Brooklyn.

At the end of the show (which ran for 9 seasons), it was said Vera was celebrating her 10th anniversary working for Mel. Belle had worked at Mel's Diner before, but Vera didn't know her, so she must've been their before that prior ten years.

He and Michael Damian were rumored to be in a long term relationship.

Flo said she was from Alabama in a season 1 episode. But I guess her and her family could’ve moved to TX when she was younger too.

Could this info sheet on him be any more vague?

Info sheet

Agree with you about Billy Green Bush, r28. He was extremely sexy in the film.

He doesn't look Jewish at all.

r7, Philip was a reasonably thriving actor before Nancy, so I would say he was more Buddy Foster to her Jodie.

Or Olivia De Havilland to her Joan Fontaine.

[quote] He used to make me tingle down there, before I knew what that tingle meant...

[quote] God, I hope you are talking about Vic Tayback.

Just as long as he is not talking about Marvin Kaplan as Henry.

Holy shit, he died.

Nobody’s mentioned his acne yet? Those poor make-up people must have had to apply base with a trowel.

What was the longtime illness?

What’s on his 8 track deck?

Obit doesn't mention a wife or kids.

R88, judging from that photo: gingivitis.

Nah, that’s mean. May he rest in peace.

"Fellow child actor" is little flippant, Miss Arngrim.

*Fellow child actor DOWN

WHAT?

Any reaction from his butch sister?

Who knew this was a stealth sad last days thread?

He has some major BDF these days.

[quote] He has some major BDF these days.

Not anymore.

OMG I didn't read through the thread. How sad. Only 55.

Has Susan Dey sent her condolences?

NOW ,can he go fishing with that damn homo ?

I was thinking he was the hot guy who showed his ass in the movie Mischief - but that was Doug McKeon....no relation to Philip and Nancy.

And it was Doug who was in On Golden Pond.

tard face

OP killed Tommy!

DL thread kills again!

You’re telling me!

And yet ONJ still lives on.

Howland, McKeon ... will there be a new girl joining them in sit-com heaven soon?

Soon we’ll be talking about the “Alice Jinx”....

He was a Trumpster? Unbelievable. No wife, girlfriend ever? Gay. I am sure of that. And they don’t give us the cause of death either......

I knew someone who visited the set of 'On Golden Pond', and he said Doug McKeon acted like a jerk.

r107

She's the new me

I thought he was hot at the time. In retrospect, not so much. But seeming BDF.

R110, wasn’t him.

Is this the new Jani Lane thread?

Posted two weeks ago and then he DIES?

So Sad. I remember seeing him at a small Alice cast party at a roller rink called Flippers back in the 1979. He and his sister were skating to "Who Loves You?" by The 4 Seasons. Polly Holliday was there, but not on skates.

Was her camel-toe there?

[quote]What’s on his 8 track deck?

ALL the versions of the "Alice" theme song, of course!

I always get suspicious when they say long term illness but refuse to name it. AIDS!

[R14] Indeed.

Tried to watch an Alice episode the other day and had to turn it off after 10 minutes.

What I found funny in 1978 just doesn't cut it in 2019.

R48 Thank you for posting the video of LL singing.

When folks said she couldn't sing, I figured it was typical DL lampooning.

But. She. Really. Cannot. Sing.

As someone else asked: How on earth did that show stay on for 9 years?

Even as a kid I knew Alice was the weak link in the Sunday night lineup

Linda and Bonnie Franklin....both terrible singers.

Linda singing to Kermit Frog.

This thread is making me miss Alice. It was one of the first shows I sorta/kinda remember. I do know I had an odd crush on Mel. Don't ask me why.

But I had no idea the actor was Nancy McKeon's brother? I love the DL. Learn something new everyday.

he dead

[quote] I do know I had an odd crush on Mel. Don't ask me why.

New to DL?

The Philip McKeon is dead thread reached 600. Shall we go another round?

He's

STILL

dead!

I am surprised that no one has posted and dish on his sex life. With all the revelations about young actors and actresses suffering at the hands of kiddie diddlers, maybe he had a #metoo story.