Ford v. Ferrari - 2 hours 32 minutes!?!?!

Bad editing?

I agree. I love Downton Abbey but I thought that damn movie would never end !

What you don't want to see Matt "that ass" Damon and Christian Sourpuss Bale put on fake accents, chew scenery and race cars around for 2 and a half hours? What have we become? It's like we're losing our moral compass as a nation! Fie on you.

If a movie is over 90 minutes long, I wait to watch in the comfort of my home.

I know right? Not every filmmaker can be Quentin Tarantino.

[quote] Matt "that ass" Damon

That ass?

I had "Day Azz" that nice bubble was soft round and tight!

The problem is that nobody can write scripts anymore. 3 hours and the characters remain undeveloped, the conflict is fuzzy and the entire structure is wobbly and unconvincing. I'm not talking about this particular film but abt all the crap Hollywood has produced in the last 15-20 years.

OP are you a diabetic or a heroin addict. What is your rush to get back home about? Why can't you be out for longer than 4 hrs.

Millennials go into DTs if they can't look at their phone every two minutes.

I am incapable of sitting still that long. I am way too hyper after 90 minutes in one spot.

Filmmakers nowadays all consider themselves geniuses and think every little thing they do must be seen.

The film could definitely have been shorter. It's entertaining enough though. Very straight down the middle crowd pleaser. There are tons of hotties in it though, and they're all well shot.

Thanks R13. I'm planning to see it later this afternoon (Friday).

Matt should go back to playing female strippers with that fattie ass. His best work...

TCM had a showing of Bette Davis’s movies from the 1930’s and they all zipped along for 90 minutes. I know movies were shorter then because there was more than one movie showing but the narrative was mostly concise and the editing snappy. I passed on “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” when I learned it’s length!

Who is the audience for this car movie? Won't straight guys be turned off by all of the historical accuracy and period costumes? Do the producers think that the Fast N Furious crowd wants to see this? I can't think of a single girl or gay who would pay to watch this movie.

Maybe it's a passion project, like McQueen's Le Mans.

You think 2 hours 32 minutes is long, try sitting through The Irishman!

[quote]Who is the audience for this car movie? Won't straight guys be turned off by all of the historical accuracy and period costumes? Do the producers think that the Fast N Furious crowd wants to see this? I can't think of a single girl or gay who would pay to watch this movie.

Hahah, look at this guy trying to figure out whether straight men go to the movies.

He has a point. Straight men showed up for Blade Runner 2049. But no one else did.

I think it could do okay. Blade Runner 2049 is a categorically different film from Ford v Ferrari, not just from a genre perspective, but also a tonal one. Blade Runner's a challenging sci-fi film with little interest in traditionally thrilling you. Ford v Ferrari gives you exactly what you expect, which is ultimately a good time at the theater with a couple of movie stars.

The longer the better for restless Millenials and Gen- Zers, who have the attention span of a gnat.

Comfy chairs, wine, beer, snacks. For sure they’re getting up at least 3x during the movie, buying booze, popcorn or large Cokes to host the contents of their flasks.

No way can a theater thrive on content alone, anymore. So pump out those blockbusters, because we will usually pay 20.00 to see a comic book film, a really good sci-fi, an action film, for a cartoon for the kids, as long as they all have awesome special effects.

Kids+ parents who want to unwind + commissary + vino + candy + popcorn + a lackluster script targeted at 8 year olds = the difference between a theater remaining open or closing shop.

Bonus points: parents check date night of their “to do list”, and hopefully get laid by their spouse that night.

Although I'm not planning to see this particular movie, I don't have any issue with long films at the cinema, because generally speaking I would only go to ones I really want to see, and if I love the film then the longer the better. If I paid to see a film that was only 80 minutes I'd feel a bit short-changed unless it was absolutely sensational.

However, where I feel it doesn't work so well is at home. Often when I watch a film at home, I end up choosing it because the length fits in with whatever else I'm doing, and as a consequence the bladder-busting 2.5-3 movies rarely ever get watched. I suppose it's the difference between going to the cinema to see something as an 'event' which you specifically set aside time for, versus fancying to watch something at home just off the cuff but working out if it's going to finish too late, particularly during the week when you're tired and want to get to sleep at a reasonable time (fuck I sound old with that I know).

With ticket prices the way they are, I want a movie to be lengthy. I'm not paying Arclight prices for a 90 minute film.

It all depends on the quality of the film. The Revenant was over 3 hours but it flew by to me because it was so engrossing. But the 90 minute Tom Hardy film Locke was a slog to get through.

FORD V. FERRARI was well paced. Far more entertaining than I expected it to be.

Amazon and streaming services have made the iconic services and retail childhood experiences that we were privy to, almost obsolete.

If you currently have a newborn, a toddler, or one of your siblings or friends do, those kids will never experience Sears’ appliance department, K-Mart back to school bonanzas, or one of the very few things that can concentrate a large group of people from all sorts of various demographics, into one room, and have them all clap, laugh or cry, at the same time. Remember watching the Terminator for the first time in a theater? Or Pretty Woman, Superman, Close Encounters of The Third Kind, E.T., Forrest Gump, Mrs. Doubtfire., Lord of The Rings, Harry Potter, and Pirates of The Caribbean, Leaving Las Vegas, Fight Club, Legends of The Fall, Silence of the Lambs, etc.

Films are magic. The unifying nectar of the unlikely fellows, who could all walk out of a Lowe’s or an AMC, feeling the same way, at the same time.

We’ve all been gently pushed into a quasi hermitage, of sorts. Now sports are the only things going, and the occasional U2 or indie music concert, and those dreadful music festivals in the fucking desert.

I’m glad I’m older. It rocks.

R26 I see what you're getting at, but it depends on who you are and where you live. Those that put a premium on the theatrical experience are going to carve out time when they can to go. Those who don't care, well, they never did. Not everyone takes movie-going as seriously as some of us, and never did, so there's no use in worrying about how their experience will shift.

Anyway, those shared theatrical experiences are diminishing because there simply aren't many films of that type worth watching. Seems like Marvel's one of the few studios that can get buts and seats and deliver a zeitgeist-like experience.

I will say though that one of my favorite theatrical experiences so far this year was watching The Irishman in a pretty packed house. That film really worked on us... there was way more laughter throughout than I thought there'd be, and we were all moved by the ending. I'll remember this experience.

Collective laughter inspired and triggered by good, solid writing, is almost priceless, R27.

And true, most people who will caravan with their kids to a theater playing Toy Story on a Friday night, are usually not interested in learning how the film was made, etc.

In my early 30s, I made a point of watching as many films that were distributed before my time, as possible. I spent weeks researching Citizen Kane, in sheer awe of how one man changed the film industry and how we filmed, forever. Same with Gone With The Wind. Eventually I got into the 60s, and studied the works of filmmakers in that era, and then my favorite era, the 70s. I probably spent 2.5 plus years doing nothing but having a true romance with film in my free time.

So I obviously appreciate modern technologies, and the Blockbuster’s in my neighborhood, that made that possible for me. I appreciate film so much more now, because I easily dedicated myself to watching good movies outside of the theater.

What kinda sucks, is that I’m not sure that people under 35 are interested in pursuing something like that, today, unless they’re in film school, a good film school, not the scam ones.

It seems to me that today’s content via streaming just sucks. And that’s where younger people are going to get that curiosity and experience of classics and the greats, via streaming. And even then, rarely will one find the long forgotten “Director’s Take” or “Making Of”, at the end of the film, like we did when renting a videotape or disc from Blockbuster.

If we could somehow integrate the classics into streaming services, perhaps packaged as a “Must Watch- History of Film” type of end product, the younger generations might become interested in writing again. Because we all know, that a great film begins with that tiny little idea that flew on someone’s shoulder, and became Chinatown, or the God Father, or epic something, like Citizen Kane.

Carroll Shelby ...

very few movies actually need to be over two hours long. Gone With The Wind did. But not many others.

R17, I’m gay and I paid to see it. There’s actually not much period detail other than a bunch of clean-shaven guys in suits, although i don't know why you think straight guys would care about that one way or the other.

R13 is right – the movie is entertaining and straightforward. I was aware of the length but didn’t feel bored because the film is so well paced. Oh, and Jon Bernthal looks fantastic as Lee Iacocca. Very hot.

R28, I understand what you're saying, but how many people ever really studied film as a art form, even among movie fans?

On the other hand, many more people will experience films via streaming than would ever see them in theaters or on DVD. This applies even more to old movies because they’re so much easier to find and can be watched on the spur of the moment, often “free” (that is, no additional charge above the streaming service charge). I’ll bet more people have been exposed to older movies via Amazon streaming than ever saw them on DVD or videotape, even though streaming hasn’t been around as long yet.

This is gonna flop so hard. No one wants to see it.

R15, that’s Matt? What movie?

They were [italic]very[/italic] flattering casting Bernthal as Iacocca.

[quote]This is gonna flop so hard. No one wants to see it.

It's actually doing very well. Projected to make $28M. Honestly, you're underestimating the appeal of a widely appealing film. Also, middle America will come out for this. There's nothing controversial about the film. It's about mavericks sticking it to the man. It's about cars that go fast. It's a romantic sports movie with movie stars.

What R36 is trying to say is that middle America is filled with stupid people who aren't as sophisticated as New Yorkers who will sit entranced for a three hour version of Follies.

I'd say starting with R26, this thread is just one frau having faux conversations with herself.

R38, at least she has herself to talk to, which is one more person than you have.

I saw it yesterday and really liked it except for Bale who seems to be playing some kind of caricature. The film is impeccably produced and edited, the racing sequences are astounding.

This film must be seem in a theater to be fully appreciated.

The poster is a big turn off to me, and I see it everywhere. Close-ups of Matt Damon and Christian Bale with sour, stank expressions like they just sniffed a pig’s ass.

It's the #1 movie this week.

In other news Charlie's Angels bombed.

It’s because of Marvel. They started the trend by having 2 hour long movies that grossed millions, so most movies started being 2 hours long. Then Marvel movies got longer, and so did all the other movies coming out. For some reason major studios think longer runtime = box office hit. I don’t get it.

Ive decided I hate Bale and to even see his face annoys the fuck out of me.