Do Mormon missionaries ever get sent to gay neighborhoods?

Some request it.....LOL "Sorry Elder Dallin, he pulled me into his house, ripped off my pants and gave me the blowjob of my life.....er.....the sexual assault I'll never recover from"

Yes, they're sent all over. If you think they wouldn't send them to a neighborhood (or even a city) because it is mostly gay, you don't know the Mormons. They send these kids into war zones, poverty-stricken slums, countries where proselytization is illegal (and then scream "religious persecution!" when they're caught and put in jail), and put them in harms way all the time. They don't think it's a big deal; after all, they're on their mission to serve the lard, not man (and following man's law is [italic]obviously[/italic] not a concern for Mormons).

[quote] Yes, they're sent all over.

R2 is right on. I couldn't believe it when I saw two American Mormon guys in the tiniest town in rural Andean Peru and they were speaking Quechua with the locals.

Of course. It’s where they get the most dick!

Abby Hunstman casually admitted on The View that all Mormons are so repressed that they secretly have a vice. She said some sneak a drink of alcohol now and then. What she meant was that they all suck dick.

In porn movies they do.

They even did a documentary about it.

Yes, they’ve been to my gay house. They corrected me when I called them Mormons, too. They are LDS.

They're Mormons. They can rebrand but they'll always be Mormons.

Hate is hate no matter what they call it.

At least they're trim. Do Mormons have a fitness boot camp for their missionaries?

Many want to, but there's a five year waiting list.

They’re required to exercise for 30 minutes a day. One of them wrote about being a gay missionary in the NYT Modern Love column a couple years ago.

Wherever they are becomes a gay neighborhood.

The Catholic church teaches us that it is ok to be gay, but you can't engage in homosexual acts. That is a mortal sin.

^ Same for Mormons. Same sex attraction is ok, but acting on it is SIN. Missionaries are required to sleep in the same room, but not ever in the same bed.

Mormons' religion is bad, but I find them a little less awful than the offputting Evangelicals. Both are on a race for converting souls in Latin America though..

R14 That is the pretty standard position in most conservative churches, today. Only the most fundamentalist ones hold to the idea that conversion therapy is possible. Basically it is the idea that we each have our cross to bear, some are homosexuals, alcoholics, addicted to porn, etc... I believed it, until I actually re-read the Bible, in the proper context.

Mormons are a shunning type of cult, but their culture does actually encourage them to be nice and kind to people. I am a gay guy and all the Mormon people I’ve known have been incredibly nice people—even if they think I am a sinner and would throw me to the wolves if I were a part of their families.

Evangelicals are Satanic as far as I am concerned. They are evil through and through and so proud of perverting the teachings that are attributed to Jesus of Nazareth.

Well, they did come to my house. My waggled eyebrows failed to send the proper signals I guess.

Gay guys certainly love this set up. Tons of porn, and even mainstream gay movies about this premise.

I saw two of the cutest young men in the South End (Boston) one time and thought, They'll never get out of here alive. Or fully clothed.

Is gay Mormons a big fetish in America? The existence of that Mormonboys website has been one of my bigger mysteries of gay porn over the last few years.

Where do you think these guys are located in Paris? Rue Saint-Merri. Ouais, the gayest street in le whole Marais. All these guys do all day long is watching gay guys strolling, holding hands and letting purses fall out of their mouth just out their window.

Pete Buttigieg’s whole appeal is that his look inspires Mormon missionary fantasies.

(answers door) You must be Don and Mike! (yells into house) JIM, THEY’RE HERE! (to guys at door) Come in! You didn’t have to dress so formally for our fourgy! So, what kind of party favors and toys do you have in those messenger bags?

More like this:

[answers door] Hi. Can I help you?

—Hi! Do you have a moment to salvage your eternal soul and learn about the Church of Latter-day Saints?

[Looks missionaries up and down.] Yeah. OK. Come on in.

—Really?! OOO-KAY!!

Mind if I do poppers?

I always see these mormon missionaries in poor neighborhoods.

They prey on the the simple and desperate to get converts. They are never in wealthy neighborhoods

[Quote] The Catholic church teaches us that it is ok to be gay, but you can't engage in homosexual acts. That is a mortal sin.

Of course that’s a made up stance just to deal with the gays that are part of our lives.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about homosexual acts vs being gay

Theor missionaries regularly go to gay neighborhoods to share missionary positions.

I live in predominantly gay neighborhood although it's gotten less gay in recent years. However, about 10 years ago, I had a couple of young Mormon missionaries knock on my door. I opened the door but didn't let them in. I told them I was gay and that spewing hate and bigotry toward gays was offensive...and did they know they were in a gay neighborhood? They tried to defend themselves after listening to me. They soon wished me a good day and left when they realized I wasn't having or accepting their bullshit. I told them how disgusting I thought they and their religion were and wanted no part of it.

Palm Springs is close to the heart of the 7th Day Adventist Empire in Loma Linda so you will get bothered by them far more than Mormons.

' UGANDA? Cool."

Mormon missionaries are nice. Cut 'em some slack.

The Catholic church teaches us that it is ok to be gay, but you can't engage in homosexual acts.

The Church teaches that it is a sin to engage in sexual acts outside marriage. This also includes heterosexuals, but no one ever brings that up. On the other hand, they declare that personal discernment overrides Church teaching, so, if you have decided with a well-informed conscience that the Church rules do not apply. It's between you and God, no middle man. So, Catholic gays, go ahead and fuck.

Them being polite doesn't change the fact they are part of a deeply homophobic organization and are preaching a homophobic doctrine r33.

You are a fool.

^ Hear Hear

OP chose the dorkiest image of Mormons he could find.

I like these Mormons

LDS missionaries in my area are instructed not to proselytize known homosexualists.

I had the unfortunate experience of growing up in the Provo, Utah area, right in the nucleus of this fucked-up cult. I was living in Pleasant Grove, Utah, ca. 1994 while I was attending the University of Utah (about a 45-minute drive to the north), and at the time, that little town of about 25,000 was 98% Mormon. And it was palpable. The missionaries wouldn't leave me alone. I'd be trying to teach music lessons at my house in the afternoons and evenings and get interrupted at least once a week by these clueless boys. Or they would drop by while I was cooking, as they were hoping for a dinner invitation. I was tired of being polite, telling them I'm not Mormon material, that I hate church and prefer to sleep late on Sundays, and they would say, "Oh, but you'd make such a good member; you're clean-cut and well-mannered," etc. Like, WTF does any of that have to do with it? Finally, I figured I needed to haul out the big guns, so I just said, "Look, honey, it would never work. Everything most central --no, crucial-- to my life starts with the letter C. And at the very top of that list are... Coffee... and... Cock. So... what are you boys packing?" I stared at their crotches pretty obviously as that rolled off my tongue. They fled in a hurry, and I never saw them again. But I got a lot of dirty looks from the neighbors after that, so I think word got around quickly. I didn't stick around for the fallout, as I soon got out of there after I won an audition for an orchestra in Japan.

I wonder how the LDS Church chooses where to send their missionaries and which ones go where. Does the church teach these missionaries some of these obscure, difficult languages?

It’s decided like this.

Elder: Do you crave dick?

Missionary: Yes.

Elder: You stay here in Utah with me. I’ve got to work on you. What about you? Do you crave dick?

Missionary: Ugh. Fuck no. Gross.

Elder: OK, we’ll send you to L.A.

The minute you engage them at all, they keep on coming back.

And remember when the right wing would spew the nonsense about gays recruiting others to become gay.

That's of course exactly what these religious zealots do.

[quote] I wonder how the LDS Church chooses where to send their missionaries and which ones go where.

LDS sends its missionaries to poor areas. Poor people need any hope they can get and the missionairies prey on that.

I ran into some Mormons in NYC a while back and engaged them in a conversation. They were basically zombies. They know the answer to everything, from why were are on this earth to what will happen when we die. They have no interest in anything other than converting the world to Mormonism. And they are not gay-friendly, which I found out pretty quickly when I finally told them I was gay (I do not look at all gay in any way, only saying the for the benefit of this post). They tried to maintain their composure but since they knew right then and there that I was the enemy, they politely began to back off.

It is a cult, and one of the most dangerous cults in the country.

R43 It’s a conscious or subconscious cry for help. They are told to convert you. Theirs is a goal-oriented culture, and so they are dogged about it. But they’re also totally cut off from outsiders as cult members, and there’s a tremendous psychic tension in being told not to get too close to outsiders and then being thrown outside the wall and left to your own devices. I am certain that this is what all the sexual fascination with Mormons is about. They believe people who are not Mormon have depraved, misdirected lives that need saving—and yet they have cravings and urges and temptations and are sent door to door to confront those urges. As with anyone who is told that X is taboo, X is going to bear a powerfully magnetic draw and feel mysterious and sexually arousing. This is why religious extremists in general often have extreme sexual fetishes. It’s an imbalance. Mormons live constructed, rigid lives that are out of balance with nature and part of them wants to be fucked back to a state of normalcy.

Kids are easily swayed which is why LDS sends kids to do its missionary work

[quote]It is a cult, and one of the most dangerous cults in the country.

All organized religions are cults.

Let's all remember back to 2008 when the Mormons (and they will forever be known to all as Mormons, not LDS or whatever name they want to call themselves today) spent tens of millions of dollars getting Prop 8 passed. There were stories about California families taking their children's college funds, even mortgaging their homes, to give the money to the Yes crowd, and for a while, it looked like their shenanigans worked...only to be struck down by the courts, and then completely wasted by the SCOTUS.

Mormons are like Oreos: they look one way on the outside, but are completely different on the inside, and you can see it if you look closely enough. And at the end of the day, like Oreos, they're bad for you and if taken in large enough quantity, will kill you.

I knew a young Mormon who was sent to Rome. When I laughed and told him he wasn't going to convert anyone there, he also laughed and said," I know it, but I get to spend a year in Rome and when I come back and tell them that I tried to convert people but they wouldn't budge, everyone will understand."

I see them wandering around the Castro occasionally. Mostly people just roll their eyes and snicker at them.

Why do they even bother? They can’t possibly have gotten any converts here... ever. It just seems like a huge waste of effort and money to me.

[quote]R33 Mormon missionaries are nice. Cut 'em some slack.

Telling strangers they’re damned to eternal darkness if they don’t shape up and behave is “nice”?

I love you as God made you, and God loves you! That’s why I’m trying to get you to understand that you need to change everything about who you are so that you won’t be condemned to eternal hellfire! You can build your own paradise on your own planet because Jesus!

^wrong thread

r48. There are 2 ways to tell a cult from a religion. 1. Do they hate razors? Amish, Orthodox, Manson. 2. Do they cut you off from others. Scientology, Mormon, Jehova Witness.

I think I was 20 before I realized that, the 2 guys in white shirts on bicycles I kept seeing all over the place were different people. I just thought they were avid cyclists.

I moved to the Bronx to a nice enough neighborhood. I didn't know I lived in the ghetto until Mormons came all the way from Utah to save ME, instead of going to Guatemala. It was cold, the apartment was hot, and so was my husband. I was a little high, so I invited them in. They were cute, brainwashed, but cute. One of them clearly knew better, but they're forced to do this. I have to think that the ones who got sent to NYC instead of Bolivia, had a few connections.

I asked, "Come on, you can't REALLY believe this stuff?" and My husband openly flirts with them until they leave. One flirts back a little, when the other one isn't watching. Rated G. Not interested in the sequel

Mormon training before entering gay neighborhoods.

[quote] LDS sends its missionaries to poor areas.

They seem to have a specific focus, targeting the Andean region, which is unfortunately not a bad strategy for them: winning converts in an area that's been neglected and taken for granted by the Catholic Church.

We've had no rain in several days, Hasa Diga Eebowai

And eighty percent of us have AIDS, Hasa Diga Eebowai

mormons love to drink and fuck

R59 = Mormon Julie from the Real World

[quote]They prey on the the simple and desperate to get converts. They are never in wealthy neighborhoods

Ain't that the truth. It puzzles me because they want the wealthy for tithing purposes. I live close to a very wealthy neighborhood (the one featured in Ladybird). There is a Mormon temple just three blocks from the Fab 40s. There is a huge demarcation between that neighborhood and the rest of East Sacramento at 48th Street. The neighborhood transitions from mansions to middle class homes and rental duplexes in just one block. You never see missionaries on the other side of 48th, but we see plenty of them just a few blocks east. BTW a prominent local Mormon business owner lives in that wealthy neighborhood.

My favorite encounter: My front door had a sticking problem. Doorbell rang and the door didn't open on the first pull. Tugged harder and managed to whack myself on the forehead. It was a loud smack and I'm holding my forehead looking at the pair. They just proceeded into their schtick without even acknowledging I was in a bit of pain. I took great pleasure in in groaning and slamming the door.

When I was in college, I had a friend whose lifelong best friend was from a big Mormon family. She belonged to a different religion and the whole family always tried to convert her. Her best friend even ambushed her one time in high school by inviting a group of missionary boys to her house; she said they refused to leave and just kept telling her they were so upset that she was a good, misguided person who was choosing to go to hell instead of eternal salvation. Her father came home and kicked them out. I met her friend once and she was unbearably holier-than-though and kind of a Tracey Flick type (Reese Witherspoon in the movie “Election”).

We lost touch after college and I ran into my old friend years later. Her Mormon friend was kicked out of Brigham Young University because she got pregnant. Her family refused to take her in because she was a sinner and a disappointment. She was at that time living in a trailer by herself with the baby. I do hope her family softened up with time, but when it comes to people making mistakes, a lot of Mormons absolutely will shun and break ties with family.

R61 They don’t need wealthy people. They encourage rabbitlike reproduction. I actually just met an old man through work who is from Salt Lake City and he joked that he has “64 great grandchildren—at last count!” If even half of the family makes a half-decent wage, that’s more income for the church, and more diversified of an investment, than one millionaire.

This is their new angle on having gay kids.

Documentary. It’s wild.

Are any of Romney’s sons into guys?

Josh is scary.

[quote]just kept telling her they were so upset that she was a good, misguided person who was choosing to go to hell instead of eternal salvation.

If being a different religion was her only crime against the cult, at worst she would be considered to have been “blinded by the craftiness of men” and shipped off to the terrestrial kingdom, which is a nice neighborhood just not where the TBM will be. In other words, if it were real, that’s exactly where you’d want to live.

Are you sure they were missionaries and not MormonBoyz auditionees who didn’t make the cut and needed some part-time work?

Isn't this what LATTER DAYS was about?

R40 has it right. Just say they can talk to you if they let you suck their cock. Or suck yours.

Is it legal to answer the door with my pants off? It's my house and they're trespassing!

The Falls trilogy is about two gay Mormon missionaries who develop feelings for each other. I liked all three -- it was a very satisfying trilogy of films.

The third one was some kind of rough cut. You can hear the director in the background of some scenes.

When they do it becomes an episode of Mormon Boyz.

In college during the 70's the guys across the hall were both converting to Mormon, one of them was getting baptized in the Mormon faith and asked me to come to his baptism, I really didn't want to but figured it would be a new experience. I was allowed to attend some of the ceremony but not the actual baptism (full immersion in water) since I was not of their faith. I was slightly offended and also happy that they didn't attempt to convert me.

He about shit a brick when he found out that I had never been baptized, and apparently the Mormons believe you can baptize people after they die, that is why they are so big into genealogy so they can baptize all their dead relatives. He claimed he was going to baptize me after I died. The other Mormon guy was a pot head, a drug user, fucking his girlfriend, and drinking his ass off. I wonder if they are still Mormon today.

I always wonder how the missionaries feel after hostile encounters. All that negative energy being directed at them, door after door, has got to get to you at some point.

R65 4:15 so weird

Yes, that makes sense R63. As with all religions, the wealthy are coddled and absolved. IIRC, Mitt Romney got a sweetheart deal from the cult where he funneled Bain monies or stock that was not nearly worth 10% of his income. They also have Paladine Security cars roaming around which might stop and tell the "uniformed & badged" interlopers not to bother anyone.

R73, lol, yes -- they didn't have the biggest budget, but the films had lots of heart.

Elder: A Mormon Love Story

[quote]at worst she would be considered to have been “blinded by the craftiness of men” and shipped off to the terrestrial kingdom, which is a nice neighborhood just not where the TBM will be

Is this supposed to sound bad? Mormon men's fertility and planetary status (seriously, Mormon cosmology give men their own planets where their property (i.e. the women & kids eventually reside after his passing) giving him eternal property rights and whatever comes after death. LDS ain't a foolin' community, and they do not accept fools.

How do the planetary populations work? If a Mor-man dies and he has six wives and 24 children and 66 grandchildren, who goes to the Mor-man’s planet? Do his adult Mor-man children go there if they have kids, or are they shrunken back down to kids who go to Big Daddy’t planet? What about their children? Do the women who are now property of their husbands go to their husbands’ planets only, or do they bilocate and also go to keep Big Daddy company on his planet?

Obviously, they just keep getting Welfare, that Scourge Mitt Romney cannot stand despite designing it. All human decency or kindness results in a BOTCH!

No, really not! He was actually nice, but I recall hearing his Bain firings. He was numerical and more than a bit sociopath. He laid people to waste in his board room, without reflecting on alleged Christianity. It's hard to say but such egregiously callous leaders Make Her Majesty's association with then all the more discomforting. Realizing that "duty" really isn't.

Always hilarious when these missionaries think that they will get into heaven while someone like Gandhi wont.

OMG, r83, can you restate that more plainly?

I found this website which sort of answered my question about how they target or approach different countries. I do have to hand it to them -- they do pretty thorough anthropological fieldwork. Kind of scary how committed they are.

I don't get any Mormons at my door where I live but I get JWs every once in awhile and usually they're usually older people.

I found it interesting that the website at Link R86 shows a Persecution Index by country which shows how likely LDS are to be run off by locals or the government. That doesn't seem to stop them from trying to convert people though.

R88, Mormons are hardcore. They seriously evaluate the feasibility of proselytizing in North Korea and Afghanistan on that list. I don't know if the Jehovahs can compete with that...

Have they evaluated the feasibility of sending their boys to North Sentinel Island and its lovely environs?

R90, good one! I forgot about that whole fiasco. I don't even remember what specific religion he was -- Evangelical?

I know they get sent to Silicon Valley, where some nerds think it's hilarious to invite them in and try to convert them to Atheism.

I know that because I know a couple of nerds who actually do that.

Yes, some Evangelical branch, R91. It was completely his own undertaking and done without sponsorship from an institution. My favorite part of the story is that the natives shot at him with bows and arrows and he deflected an arrow with, wait for it, wait for it - his bible! His was a two-parter since he went back the next day to get killed. He probably thought the lucky bible coincidence was a sign from god, propelling him to his eventual death. As sad as it is, his death probably saved scores of people from future harassment.

Sending these Mormon twinks to the gays of West Hollywood is far more dangerous than Afghanistan or the Sentinel Islands.

FTFY!

Sending these Mormon twinks to the gays of West Hollywood is far more enticing than Afghanistan or the Sentinel Islands.

R20 R69 A cute clip from Latter Days how the missionary canvassing can go.

[quote]apparently the Mormons believe you can baptize people after they die, that

Yeah, apparently LDS does mass baptisms of deceased folks. I recall a controversy many years ago when a Jewish group complained that the Mormons were mass baptizing Holocaust victims.

^^ It's like they're pod people, trying to devour as many dead bodies as they can find.

I will admit to being an atheist and as anti-religion as anyone, but even if I weren't, I think it's the height of arrogance for anyone to believe that he or she has the "one true religion" and thus must share and impose it on everyone else.

R39, thats useful

I'll shoot down to Bunnings (local big hardware store chain) today and see if they've got a preprinted sign saying "Known Homosexual" like the ones for your letterbox (no circulars etc)

Went to Bunnings, no "Known Homosexual" signs in their range, will have to get one custom made

What religion are these people? I find them far more annoying than Mormons.

No, but they do wander into the occasional ghost town and encounter a rowdy gay or two.

Silly cult but the people are often incredibly kind.

Coincidentally my first job was with a high fashion company that was owned by Mormons. They were supremely nice and took care of all their employees and never tried to convert us.

Secondly, my first major boyfriend was an ex-Mormon. He did his missionary work in Detroit which he admitted was a disappointment because he was hoping to go to a place more exotic and learn a new language. You do not get to choose where you go for your missionary work and also surprisingly when you are on missionary, your family is paying all your expenses. The church pays zero. They see it is a privilege to spread the Mormon gospel to the rest of the world. My boyfriend had two older brothers in which they went and did missionary work and his parents paid for it as well. . So it is like two years of college where you’re not learning anything or getting college credit. And also for my boyfriend the cruelest thing was that while he was in missionary work his father died and his mother told him to not come home that his missionary work was more important going to the funeral. He gets choked up when he talks about this not being able to go to his father’s funeral because he was doing his missionary work. And now he feels that it was just wrong and his mother was cruelly wrong.

While in Detroit he was shot at twice by random cross fire. he knocked on doors for two years and in those two years he only converted one person (which is the average norm.). And he thinks the only reason he converted this person was she was a young mother with no friends and lonely and he would come and visit her every day and talk to her about Mormonism and God and whatever the bullshit it came with and she just enjoyed his company. He admitted to me that once his missionary work was done, and left Detroit he felt bad for converting that girl because he knew in his heart that she was just lonely and he was a nice guy and he spoke to her. It had nothing to do with the religion or spirituality or anything like that. years later he would talk about how guilty he felt about converting her to Mormonism.

After finishing up his missionary work he went directly to Brigham Young University where he immediately found the underground gay population of the school. He told me at that point he had never even masturbated, so the first time he went to a gay bar and hooked up with the guy they went back to his place, they took off there clothes and he started to give my bf head and bf came immediately - because he had never jerked off before so he’d never had had an orgasm.

By the time I met him about 10 years later, he was a dynamo in bed and that he was probably one of the best sexual relationships I ever had. He even said when Mormons go bad they go away bad, jokingly but true. About 90% of his friends were all “Jack” Morgan meaning although they were brought up in the Mormon faith but because they’re gay they can’t be Mormons and fall out of the church.

But it doesn’t end here, he routinely would get a pair of Mormon elders visit him at home and try to bring him back into the church. Mormons keep a database of their current and former members and keep track of the ones that attend a church and the ones that did not. And since my boyfriend did not attend he was constantly harassed by church members to return to the church. It was very strange being in a relationship with someone from such a uniquely different culture.

I was raised atheist and didn’t have any religious hang ups. And he came from a family which all but him were a devout Mormons. As I got to know him and his friends and family, I realized about 90% of the “Jack” Mormon gay friends of his turned out to be drug addicts,, alcoholics, sex addicts or a combination of one of those three. My boyfriend was lucky in that once he left Mormonism he was able to live normal life.

By the way, sorry for grammatical or nonsensical words - I’m using my dictation app while I’m driving, Thus I can’t edit what I am saying.