Celebrities Very BAD or Very GOOD with Money

Very bad: MC Hammer, Doris Day ' Very good: Gloria Swanson, Gene Autry

Very good: Natalie Schafer, who played Mrs. Howell on "Gilligan's Island". She was the real millionaire on the show because she had invested her earnings from Broadway and small Hollywood parts so wisely.

Also, Lucille Ball, who was a good businesswoman.

Bad = Lindsay Lohan, Good = Hilary Duff

Good = Jodie Foster

Bad = Cher

Bad: Nicolas Cage, buying castles and haunted mansions.

Vincent Gallo - Someone posted a story about his buying a house for $5 million. I wondered how in the world he'd come up with that much money. It's not as though he's ever had a big payday in Hollywood. The response was that he'd made money as a young man selling his paintings. He took that money, the money he made from modeling, and whatever he's managed to make from movies and bought apartments or houses (as residences) that appreciated. The latest article I found just now was that he bought a $3.25 million house in Tucson. He looks like an ambulatory schizophrenic you'd avoid on the train, but the house is actually pretty nice.

Courtney Love is the celebrity financial trainwreck of all trainwrecks. She's admitted to blowing through hundreds of millions on drugs, expensive living, and fine things. She inherited a fuck ton after Kurt's death, but I don't believe she has managed it well at all. She recently sold a house she's had in WA state since the '90s that was left derelict and uninhabited. That alone makes me think she could be running out of money.

Bad: Toni Braxton has now filed for bankruptcy [italic]three[/Italic] times. Hey, Toni, maybe you should have listened to the advice Oprah Winfrey gave you instead of bitching that she was 'so frickin mean' to you.

Good: Oprah Winfrey

Debbie Reynolds: bad with money. Blamed it on her ex-husband(s).

Good:

-Apparently Crispin Glover. A few years back there was a DL Tasteful Friends thread on his newly purchased mansion in the Czech Republic and a lot of th comments were surprised that he even had that kind of money. Pretty impressive for a character actor.

-As much as I hate to admit it, the Kardashians.

Bad:

All the ones I can name off the top of my head (MC Hammer, Johnny Depp, Nicholas Cage, etc.) have already been mentioned

Good = Madonna

Bad = Kate Jackson

Good; Greta Garbo, Randolph Scott, Jane Wyman - all died filthy rich due to smart investments. I think Garbo & Scott in real estate and Wyman in TV.

Good: Dean Martin - bought up large swathes of California real estate

Bad: Sammy Davis Jr.

Good: Mick Jagger

Bad: Rue McLanahan (ex husband)

There have been rumors for years that Crispin Glover got a settlement from Spielberg because he had some incriminating information. He wrote an essay about it once that I think you can still find online, you can at least find mentions of it all over the place. That's where his money is rumored to come from.

Doris Day and Debbie Reynolds weren't bad with money, they were bad with husbands and old-fashioned enough to think the men should deal with the finances.

Good: Bono and Edge from U2.

Quite bad: AJ McLean from backstreet boys.

Good: G, no Oscars, but never had to resort to TV money in 2019 to pay the bill.

Bad: M, Oscars (multiple!), but had to crawl back to HBO for "prestige" TV money (which was basically a remake of Desperate Housewives) and share credits with that hapless Nicole Kidman. I smell drug habits.

There’s an endless number of celebs who either personally mishandled their fortunes or who payed accountants/managers etc. who mishandled their fortunes.

James Marsden has been flipping beach houses for about 15 years and has apparently done very well for himself.

When Debbie Reynold's 2nd husband died, she found out she was in debt for millions of dollars. Instead of filing for bankrupcy, she went to work, eventually paying it all back. Then her third husband, again unbeknownst to her, did the same thing. She was forced to sell of her Hollywood Museum pieces, making her richer than she could have imagined, though her dream of having the museum sadly died.

Good- J Lo.

There is not a penny of her money that she doesn’t know about and if she sees a penny difference her people are held accountable. She is very strict about this after playing

Bad- Selena

She didn’t mismanage her money but that fat cunt did and she never even noticed. It was her father that noticed and then brought it to Selena’s attention.

That DICK Matt Lauer. He bought a $40 million dollar house in the hamptons a few years ago and now has to sell it, partly for the divorce settlement and partly because he no longer has an income.

I forgot to mention: Matt Lauer is VERY BAD with money.

Good: Babs Streisand, Mimi Carey, Diane Ross, Bette Midler, Madonna. They all managed their money very smartly and didn't let anyone swindle them or seize control of their finances.

Horrible: Judy Gargoyle, Flo Ballard, Doris Day, Gladys Knight, Dionne Warwick, Lisa Marie Presley

R18 = A dick. A big, mutilated, dick.

Also in the very good with money category is Dolly Parton.

R6 Wow, not a name you'd immediately think of. It's quite surprising, he seems batshit crazy most of the time. Maybe someone bought the semen he sold on his website some time ago lol.

Good: Melania Trump (probably has socked away millions in completely sure accounts).

Bad: Donald Trump - loses billions and needs to grift non-stop to maintain his self-annointed billionaire identity.

Good: Sandra Bernhard

Bad: Susan Richardson

Bad: Susan Olsen

Bad: Dawn Wells (Mary Anne From Gilligan's Island). Natalie Schafer left most of her estate to Dawn, and she has managed to fritter it all away to the point she put up a go fund me because she was broke.

Bad: Redd Foxx. Lost it all to a combination of bad money management, multiple high dollar divorces, lavish living, and ultimately to the IRS who seized his Las Vegas home and all its contents for back taxes. Redd said an IRS agent even removed a necklace from his neck, an ID bracelet from his wrist, and the money he had in his pockets during the seizure.

Good: Bob Hope amassed a fortune buying cheap California real estate worth 85 million in the 1980's.

Bad: Justin Beiber for not having a prenup, Hailey Rhode Bieber is going to be sitting pretty once his mental issue make living with him impossible.

For old-time Hollywood, the previously-mentioned Gene Autry would be tops. He was making money as an entertainer, but not ridiculous money,. However, he invested in land, tv and radio stations and even owned a professional baseball time for a while. He admitted he was a much better business man than signer/actor.

I'd also mention Bob Hope.

For someone around today, I'd Dolly Parton. Elvis wanted to record "I Will Always Love You," but demanded to get a cut of the publishing rights to do so. Dolly wisely declined the offer and later made bank when Whitney Houston covered the tune.

Can't believe nobody has yet mentioned Lisa Marie Presley as being bad with money. She squandered an estimated $100 million inheritance and is now basically broke. Unbelievable.

The entire Braxton family are tragic with money. Toni, Tamar, all of them.

Good with money? Pete Sampras.

Good with money: Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld

Mr. T at one point was making millions a year. Pissed it all away.

I’d say Tori Amos is pretty good with money. Lots of people know her name but don’t know her music, and they think she’s a relic of the 90s. But she has amassed a $60 million fortune based solely on her musical talents and business savvy, having fought to maintain her own publishing rights since the very beginning of her career.

R35 meet R25

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Mike Tyson. Blew through 100 million dollars.

Garbo, mentioned upthread: she was notoriously frugal, even if her NYC apartment was lovely, IMHO.

There's a famous quote that between movies and investments, "She'd amassed millions of dollars over her lifetime. And spent $2.98 of it."

I'm not really the biggest fan of her acting, but she was a singularly gorgeous presence onscreen, and more than that, knew when to leave the party.

Class.

Good: Mae West (bought large tracts of land in what is now Van Nuys, CA) Bad: Judy,Judy, Judy.

90% of NFL players...they go broke a few years after retiring...

Taylor Swift seems to have a good financial head on her shoulders. I'm not a fan of her, so I don't follow her that closely, but it's surprising that someone, who's been in the business since her teenage years has never gone the obvious route of child/teen star crazy with a lavish lifestyleand/ or tons of drugs. Miss America's Sweetheart has always managed to stay fairly sane, maintain her image and make sound career & financial decisions. I really respect that.

Boris Becker. sooo bad.

Bankrupt. Mansion in Spain rotting and occupied by squatters. Over 50 million pounds in debt, had to sell his trophies.

Invested over 10 million in Nigerian oil industry (LOL)

A list of ones who’ve managed their money poorly. Thanks, Google.

Good: According to DL threads, Ryan O'Neal and all his real estate investments he lives off of.

Bad: Tatum O'Neal?

How could Susan Richardson be bad with money, when she didn't make that much to begin with?

These child stars pre 90's had it rough. Aside from low wages, they often had to deal with people taking advantage of their money.

R49 She made enough $$$ to feed her coke habit.

Very few people raised by parents who were bad money managers grow up to be good with money themselves. That is a responsibility & habit that for most has to be taught from an early age. There are some exceptions, but for the most part fools with money raise fools with money.

Good: Jerry Mathers. Good investments made him a millionaire in the 60s.

Bad: David Cassidy drugs and partying

R51 is correct. Case in point:

[quote]Taylor Alison Swift was born on December 13, 1989, in Reading, Pennsylvania. Her father, Scott Kingsley Swift, was a stockbroker for Merrill Lynch; her mother, Andrea Gardner Swift (née Finlay), was a homemaker who had worked as a mutual fund marketing executive.

Her image is of the (middle-class) girl next door, but she actually grew up very wealthy and, more than, very knowledgeable about finance. And presumably, power.

"Natalie Schafer left most of her estate to Dawn"

Actually she didn't. She gave her a lump sum of $1million and that was it. Dawn the crazy pothead blew through that shit in just a few years.

What did Tina Louise get?

Everyone says Madge is an excellent businesswoman.

Good with $: Celine Dion

Bad with $: Jan-Michael Vincent

Good: Jennifer Aniston

I've heard Celine Dion had to work so hard to finance her husband Santa Claus' gambling debts?

Good: Deanna Durbin

Bad: Judy Garland

Arnold Schwarzenegger supposedly invested well in real estate all over the country. Very smart with investments.

Taylor Swift as someone mentioned, is sandwiched between two financial advisor parents. She’ll be a billionaire by the age of forty.

jessica Alba and Ashton Kutcher are both reported to have invested well.

Alba started a baby products company and "Kutcher has been investing in technology for over a decade, both as an angel investor and a founding partner of A-Grade Investments and Sound Ventures. His fund portfolio includes Airbnb, Uber, Flexport, Brex, Robinhood, Bird, Airtable and Affirm among others."

Good: Paulette Goddard--she left a fortune to NYU when she died.

Bad: Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York.

Good: Yoko Ono

Good: Martha Stewart

Bad: Erin Moran, Dana Plato

A few bad investments there, R65...

Is Lisa Marie Presley really broke or is she hiding money she does not want to give to her deadbeat ex-husband?

Isn't Priscilla reputed to have managed the estate exceptionally well such that Lisa Marie got a huge chunk of money.

Apparently, Elvis was not good with money at all and left the estate a wreck. But, there were assets like his name and likeness that Priscilla parlayed into a small fortune.

Lisa Marie has squandered most of that money and Priscilla has had to sell her own assets to bail her out.

[quote] Lisa Marie has squandered most of that money and Priscilla has had to sell her own assets to bail her out.

If you believe that I've got some ocean front property in Kansas I'd love to sell you. First of all I don't believe for a second that Lisa Marie has spent all the money. She still owns a sizeable portion of the Graceland property. She's got plenty money coming in. And even if she had to, which she hasn't, Priscilla would never sell her own assets to bail out that drug addict fool daughter. She didn't build Elvis' estate from into the huge fortune it became to be stupid enough to do something like that.

Very good with money: the delightful Yoko Ono

And let's not forget Merv Griffin. He came off as not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but....

William Boyd who played Hopalong Cassidy mortgaged everything he owned to buy the rights to the Hopalong character and all the old movies. The studio let it all go for $350,000 since they thought they had little value, but Boyd's timing was perfect because he recut them and syndicated them for television a few years later. The demand was so great they went back into production and shot new episodes, and he became one of the earliest television stars. He was making more than the $350,000 every year off product licensing alone during the 1950's.

Mariah has had a huge payroll for 30 years and flies private all the time. She has had to do quite a few things to bring in cash.

bad..........tori spelling, she has to be the worst.

as to garbo yes she was very good with money however she had her mishaps. She invested all her money in savings accts in a beverly hills bank and when the depression hit in 1929 the bank went under and all the hard earned money she parked there she lost. This was way way before the fdic came into play.

Shortly after that happened her contract was up for re negotiation. She already had a reputation as a shrewd investor and having saved all her money and the studio was unaware she was broke. Because she kept it quiet, they paid her top dollar on the extended 5 year contract. If MGM knew of her predicament she would have been at their mercy and had to settle for a lot less.

One thing she did, was all the years she was making movies she lived in rentals in LA (houses) and they were furnished and she never spent a nickel on home rehab, furniture etc. She also bought a used packard instead of new. She didnt buy her first house in LA until the 1940 s after she had retired.

SHe grew up grindingly poor in Sweden and when her father became terminally ill rather young in life he ended up in the charity ward at the hospital. That was an extremely embarassing situation for Garbo and right then and there she vowed to get rich.

Good: Rob Lowe.

Don't know if he's exactly filthy rich, but, besides acting regularly, Donal Logue owns trucking and lumber companies.

Don't know if he's exactly filthy rich, but, besides acting regularly, Donal Logue owns trucking and lumber companies.

Art Linkletter was a friend of Walt Disney, and Walt hired him to be the master of ceremonies at Disneyland's grand opening. Instead of cash Linkletter asked for the Kodak Film concession at the park. For almost 30 years every roll of film sold or developed at Disneyland was sold by Art's company.

Good: Ryan Seacrest

Good: Bill Cosby

Bad: Evel Kneivel

Bad: Orson Wells

Good: Fred MacMurray - a real penny pincher

Jackie Kennedy received a $26 million dollar settlement from her late husband's estate, onassis. She used that $$ to live well the rest of her life. Buying a huge chunk of land on Martha's vineyard, which caroline is now selling for $65 million dollars. It was purchased for just $1.1 million dollars in the late 70s. When Jackie died, her estate was valued at more than $43.7 million dollars, leaving her children set for life.

Lee on the other hand, seemed to have struggled throughout her life with $$ issues. But big sis Jackie cut her a few sizable checks here and there to help keep her in the lap of luxury. I believe there mother Janet also once gave lee a check for $750K dollars to help her stay in the black. I don't think jackie liked lee taking $$ from there mother though.

Fued made it seem like Joan Crawford had nothing at the end of her life, but that's simply not true. Joan had a beautiful apartment in a beautiful building in NYC. She lived pretty well, even though she always cried poor mouth, which she wasn't. She died I believe with more then $2 million dollars to her name. Pretty big $$ back in 1977. She left her two twin daughters about $80K a peace. And the rest I believe went to charity.

Bette Davis on the other hand, worked like a dog for nearly 60 years taking care of her mother, sister, and supposedly ungrateful daughter BD Hyman. She brought them homes, cars, took care of her grand children, played school tuition, sent them on extravagant luxury vacations etc. All played for by bettes $$ she made in the movies. She never really got to enjoy her wealth, because she was always working to take care of lazy people in her family. I believe she cut her ungrateful daughter out of her will, and left a sizable amount to either her grandson or son.

Bette died in 1989 with an estate valued at about $1 million dollars. So she was definitely comfortable in her later years, which is great. Especially after being in showbiz for 60 years.

Mike Tyson blew straight through $300 million dollars on dumb shit.

Evander holyfield did the same thing. Buy mike tyson seem to be doing pretty good these days.

But blowing $300 million dollars is still fucking insane. If it was invested well, he could've been a billionaire right now.

Jacques Tati was sadly not more careful with his money. He sold the rights and ownership to all his successful movies to make "Playtime" and it didn't do well.

Oprah Winfrey huge financial success in her career. And she said she knows exactly what she's worth at any given moment. Always a good thing.

Johnny Carson, another very successful talk show host walked away from the The tonight show job after 30 years of hosting. with $400 million dollars to retire in complete comfort and no worries.

Merv Griffin, like Oprah was another one who was a billionaire talk show host media and business mogul who had huge financial success.

And ofcourse Ellen DeGeneres is another wealthy talk show host who everytime you look up is buying very expensive real estate and flipping it for massive profits.

It sure is good to have a talk show.

Nicholas Cage pissed through SO much money in SUCH a ridiculous fashion that for a while there I wondered if he had bipolar disorder. When people with bipolar go through manic episodes everything seems like a good idea, including throwing all your money away on stupid shit. And that's why Cage will now make any piece of shit for a paycheck.

There was a rumor that when the IRS went after Cage his old friend Johnny Depp gave him millions, and saved his ass, because Depp was so grateful to Cage for giving him his start in the film business. Which was yet another stupid financial decision on Depp's part.

And speaking of actors who will make any piece of shit for a paycheck, Robert DeNiro is rumored to need the money. Since he's been earning top dollar for the last forty years, he'd have to be pretty damn bad with money to need any now.

Michael Caine will do anything for a paycheck, but I don't think it's because he needs the money. No, he grew up poor and the fear of being poor again has never left him, he's never been picky and isn't going to start now.

Kelly Ripa said she's really bad with managing money. And she said she signs all the checks and hands everything off to her husband mark.

She said if it wasn't for mark handling the money she said they wouldn't have anything at all. She said he went to college and hes way smarter then she is. And that she feels much better with him over seeing the family finances. She collects a $25 million dollar salary annually from Live and she's been hosting that show since 2001.

She's very wealthy, they live in a $30 million dollar townhouse on the upper east side of NYC. And they have another beautiful home out in the Hamptons.

So if she bad with money, it's probably best that her husband continues to manage it for them.

Wesley Snipes owns this thread.

Gary busey also owns this thread. Good actor, but very crazy.

Oprah got good advice, early on, from Roger Ebert. I think the advice was to own the syndication rights to her shows.

Elizabeth Taylor lived decade after decade spending lavishly for a luxurious lifestyle befitting a Queen. Still, she left behind $600 million!

R89 and R90 reading Snipes and Busey right after each other made me imagine them in a business venture together. Can you imagine?

[quote] Doris Day and Debbie Reynolds weren't bad with money, they were bad with husbands and old-fashioned enough to think the men should deal with the finances.

Debbie Reynolds also had her son Todd pissing her money away.

Elizabeth Taylor made colossal amounts on perfume. More than all her films combined. Also gifted "important" jewels that appreciated, which is rare.

Rosie O'Donnell lucked out making a Midas fortune on her silly talk show.

People get obscenely rich sometimes for unexpected reasons.

[R81], it's not my place to speak ill of the dead, but I was rather enamoured of Lee due to her fleeting association with The Rolling Stones during their 1972 American Tour. Just the stories, none of them lacivious, amused me, because she always presented good manners when suddenly presented with situations far outside of her normal frame of reference. But her later life seemed to be all bauble, brio and bullshit. I pity her. She never seemed to achieve anything remotely near happiness. A venal, hollow creature.

I'm thinking Mariska Hargitay, her children, her grandchildren, great grandchildren etc. are all set for life. Maybe her brothers and sister too.

And speaking of luck, the Big Bang Theory cast is also set for life and several generations to come.

Very nice to have a friend like depp to loan you millions, quentin tarantino also loaned millions to Michael Madison, 4million to be exact, which was disclosed in madson's bankruptcy.

Jane Fonda has done exceedingly well for herself.

Elton John is notoriously bad with money, but seems to have the Midas touch regarding his music and associated projects, so he actually brings in enough to compensate. If he were only moderately talented he'd probably be dead in a pauper's grave by now.

I think Fonda, like Taylor, made more money from things other than her movies; ie. exercise videos. Joan Rivers was very good with money, never saying no to work and working till her dying day. Bankrupted when her husband suicided she clawed her way back selling jewellery and clothes on QVC etc. and was at the top of her game when she died.

Cary Grant was a notorious penny pincher (although always seemed to be impeccably dressed) and died very wealthy. Oprah is said to still be somewhat frugal. Heiress Doris Duke was an astute business woman who turned her father's inheritance into billions where her peer Barbara Hutton died almost penniless having flittered through a fortune.

Gloria Vanderbilt. Forbes had her listed as being worth $200, 000, 000 and Anderson Cooper was set to inherit it. When she died it was revealed she had $1.5 million in the bank, which I find funny. I've never believed Forbes can predict anyone's true wealth.

D Duke died with fortune intact to the tune of 2.7 billion $

Well, Doris Duke was not a money manager. She fortunately inherited tobacco wealth and huge stakes in bluechip companies, industries that continued to be very profitable over her lifetime. Also very grand art. Her mother was into money management, though.

[quote]Rosie O'Donnell lucked out making a Midas fortune on her silly talk show.

She always gives her brother credit for the money management. She is generous to a fault and would give it all away.

r104 yes, but DD could also have flittered it all away too, or sold her fathers' investments. She could be both extravagant and ridiculously frugal.

25 year old Harry Styles is brilliant with money. He's made 30m in the last two years. No bad habits and invests in prime Hampstead real estate.

1930s Film star Norma Shearer, was left very wealthy after her movie producer husband Irving thalberg who was very young and sickly died.

He left her real estate, plenty of cash, and she probably inherited all kinds of film rights which kept on pumping $$ into her estate. Plus she had her own $$ from her time being a massive A list film star in her day.

Reclusive heiress Huguette Clark whose father was a very successful businessman and senator, inherited a massive fortune from him between $300-$500 million dollars. She maintained her wealth her entire life. Homes all over the east coast and out in California. But never lived in or spent much time in any of them.

She spent something like the last 20 years of her life living in a hospital because that's what she preferred, over living in one of her beautiful properties that her $$ maintained for literally decades while they sat empty.

She died in 2011 at age 104.

r101 re: Oprah. A friend of mine did her makeup for a short while, travelling from L.A. to S.B. I said, "You must be making bank!", and he replied, "No, she's only paying me $150 per application". I exclaimed, "That's bullshit! She's a billionaire!', and he said, "But it's OPRAH!! It's good for my resume!". Shortly thereafter he wasn't working with her anymore.

r110 he should have been paid $5000 to make that look acceptable. That takes talent

Kathy lee Giffords made a massive pile of money hosting live, before she handed it off to Kelly ripa. And she was the face of that cruise company for 20 years and was minted from that.

And then there's the money she made from the Today show, and I'm sure she's well invested too.

Whoopi goldberg was in a bad place financially before she was hired to be on "The View". She said she was about to have to ask for help. But Barbara Walters came calling and that took care of her $$ problems.

She's always had a lot of real estate etc. But I guess getting divorced and having a shell out money in settlements and spousal support isn't cheap. Not even for celebrities.

I've always liked whoopi and have been a fan from childhood, so I'm glad she's back deep in the money. And that she's been able to start successful business ventures outside of her talk show gig. And that she still gets offers to act in film and tv and Broadway, which she will be doing in summer 2020 in London. I think sister act if I'm not wrong. And her new Stephen king gig on CBS.

At least half the celebrities rumored to be good with money will be revealed to be pathetic with money, at some later date.

Such as Kelly Ripa. Every female celebrity whose husband is accused of pissing away her fortune on side pieces and bad investments during the divorce, had said earlier that he was a brilliant businessman and that she was so glad to let him handle everything.

Howard Hughes inherited a really successful business and wealth from his father, And turned that fortune into a multi billion dollar empire.

He invested in aviation technology and brought a Hollywood movie studio, RKO studios I believe. He also brought hotels owned a lot of other real estate and he was an eccentric recluse too.

By the time he died in the 1970s, he was sitting on a nearby $2.5 billion dollar fortune that eventually went to various cousins and a family charity if I'm not mistaken.

R114 Kelly ripa doesn't strike me as a dumb woman. I sure she keeps an eye on the money too. After all, it's her money that's funding there life of luxury and comfort. I know mark is an actor too. But he's not pulling in the kind of money kelly does from that sweet lucrative talk show job she has.

I'm sure she knows exactly whats in the bank and what's going out. She'd be a fool not to know.

Then modern day Midas, Joseph P Kennedy. Fucking epic!

Jay Leno is proud of the fact that he's never spent a nickel of his Tonight Show money, and has always lived on his income from touring. Every if he just banked it and never invested that's still a lot of money.

Leno, the unfunny one

So what is Jay going to do with all of that money? He doesn't have any kids to leave it to.

Any nieces or nephews? Or is he going to donate it all to charity or a college or something?

Sounds pretty empty to me.

What about Charlie Sheen. Was the highest paid actor on TV. Spent it all on hookers, drugs, booze. No one will hire him now. Went to court to have his alimony and child support reduced. Saying he only has a couple of million left.

Charlie sheen is fucking crazy and irresponsible. No one is surprised by his money issues, I'm not.

Once again, the wrong people always end up with large sums of money.

Always it seems.

Jay Leno is such a vapid, repulsive, and unethical person. Net worth of at least $400 million, and

[quote]Leno owns approximately 286 vehicles (169 cars and 117 motorbikes). He also has a website and a TV program called Jay Leno's Garage, which contains video clips and photos of his car collection in detail, as well as other vehicles of interest to him. Leno's Garage Manager is Bernard Juchli.[95] Among his collection are two Doble steam cars, a sedan and a roadster that were owned by Howard Hughes, the fifth Duesenberg Model X known to survive, and one of nine remaining 1963 Chrysler Turbine Cars. The collection also includes three antique electric cars — the 1925 Baker Motor Vehicle is his wife Mavis' favorite car.

I'm no fan of Leno's, but what has he done that's unethical? Decide he didn't want to retire at the height of his success after all?

Johnny Depp is typical of many people one or two generations away from poverty become wealthy - they don't know how to save and spend every penny once its in their hands because they don't know if they will ever get any again.

R124 he fucked David Letterman and Johnny Carson by using subterfuge and blackmail to get The Tonight Show.

He fucked Conan by doing another show after saying he was leaving.

He is the epitome of right wing garbage.

MASH's Wayne Rogers became a well known money manager.

Good: Madonna, Celine, Barbra Streisand Bad: Whitney Houston, Toni Braxton, 50 cent, Mc Hammer

you are wildly inaccurate of your portrayal of doris dukes wealth. She inherited the bulk of her fathers money and it was managed by money managers her entire life. Her father had already branched out into other areas other than tobacco as he knew there would evetually be a backlash due to the health factor of cigarettes. He knew this back in the early 1900s. He started Duke energy. SO you know that had a happy ending financially. Doris knew so little about finance that she would change advisors almost yearly so nobody ever even knew how little she knew. What propelled her along was at the time her father died, estate tax rate was not high. The biggest factor was she was an ONLY child which meant the money didnt get split up. The snowballing money became so huge that it just grew massive. In the 1960s when a new financial advisor took over he found she had 72 million dollars in her checking acct! She was the second largest holder of treasuries in the world and she was richer than the queen of England. The other factor that helped Doris was her father had already purchased the 2 main properties she would reside in off and on for the rest of her life, one in new jersey and the other in New Port RI.......... so she didnt spend fortunes on mansions all over world. She did build shangrai la in Hawaii and it cost alot but she had built in to the structure pricelss oriental antiquities so that at the tiime of the inventory of her possesions after she died, probablly hundreds of millions of dollars was saved in estate taxes as the value of the house was just its market value in general not the contents that was built into the house.

THe other factor that showed she wasnt any genius is she made her drunken idiot of a butler that eventually probably on purpose made sure she had a fatal overdos the executor of her will.

So to be generous to Doris she was a mixture of brillance and stupidity when it came to money. There is no denying the estate was worth hundreds of times more than when she originally took charge but that reflects the time value of money over 65 years ot so that she survived her father .

What Doris

Tiger Woods has a reputation of being notoriously cheap long before his divorce settlement. Wonder if he falls into the doing well or not so well..

Good: Oprah Winfrey

Bad: donald

Didn't Lady Gaga once say that she spent every cent she made on a new outrageous costume every day?

Because if true, you can't get worse with money than that, the only way to keep afloat with those sorts of habits is to have an Elton John income.

Mitzi Gaynor. Sinatra gave her investment advice on buying land.

Any celebrity who has invested in real estate back in the 1970s and 1980s are considered good with money. Case in point, Grace Slick who has done just that due to the advice of her father who told her to invest in real estate because it would never depreciate (or less likely anyways) unlike get-rich schemes or unscrupulous money managers' investment schemes.

Didn't Celine Dion's creepy husband gamble away most of the money she earned?

Good: Mick Foley. Self admittedly very cheap and people have said he's worth about $50 to $60 million.

Bad: Ric Flair. Spent lavishly and told the story about buying three gold Rolex watches in one year because they kept getting stolen by female groupies.

DL fave/enemy Kathy Griffin lives very well for a stand up comic who never really had a big series (like Seinfeld).

Frankie Muniz (from Malcom in the Middle) worked on that show for 7 years as a kid and never has to work again a day in his life. Might have been his parents who were the smart ones, but someone knew what they were doing.

Is that true, though? Doesn't the TV brother work for a phone company or something?

Good: Jerry Seinfeld

Regarding Grace Slick, she owns several properties in the Bay Area, and that's about as fruitful of a real estate portfolio as you can get. Her wealth is also partly why she hasn't been on the nostalgia touring circuit that many of her contemporaries do to make a living. Her daughter China Kantner also doesn't work, as typical of many children of SF Bay Area people who own properties that generate income. I know a couple of people in their 20-30s who went to college but had never worked because their parents own rental properties that generate income, and they know they'd take over after the parents die.

Whoopi is an interesting case because she cries poor all the time. Just least week she told people just to get her scratch off tickets for her birthday. It was a weird moment.

I do very good thing with ping pong ball, stick of the gum and hundred dollar bill. Trick is old Slovenian secret. Only works with hundred bill no poor money!

I would say she can't possibly be poor R141, but ... I'd say the same about Johnny Depp. Maybe she just pisses away all her money on stupid shit.

R141 I remember that. Whoopi is very money conscious I think, because of her situation before getting The View job.

So I really don't blame her for being the way she is. Having it all then almost losing it all is scary.

Even Paris Hilton buys lottery tickets if you could believe that. And she's a Hilton.

Joy behar is another one who's really good with money. She said, it's not how much you save, it's how much you spend.

Very true.

And she has to beautiful homes. One right in Manhattan, and the other in the Hamptons.

...and Joy said "I'm not buying you scratch offs." lol. That is how the lasagna tradition began, Joy made her that instead.

Kirstie alley has to be good with money. I don't know if she still does, but at one point she had a lot of real estate from California to the midwest and in the northeast.

She also has her main residence up for sale right now. Its a huge house in Los angels, and she haven't really done anything significant as of late. I was wondering how she affords that house. She did reality show that was filmed primarily on her property and looking at the size of it, I didn't know she had that kind of money at her disposal.

I don't know if her money is running low now, but that house is up for sale. That's been her main house for nearly 20 years.

Maybe she wants to downsize or something. Also being a scientologist is expensive too, so maybe that eating away at her finances as well.

"DL fave/enemy Kathy Griffin lives very well for a stand up comic who never really had a big series (like Seinfeld). "

A lot of celebrities live beyond their means, because they either think that looking rich and successful will help their careers, or they're just damn fools who blow all their money on lifestyle.

And BTW that's the finances of most "reality TV stars" right there, idiots who blow every cent they ever earned or can borrow on looking rich, because impressing people with their lifestyle is all they live for. Every Real Housewife and their ilk will be bankrupt soon enough, they all live beyond their means.

I believe Kathy Griffin can actually afford her lifestyle through. She doesn't strike me as someone who is stupid with money.

She's very tight money wise from what I've always heard about her. And she paid cash for her home, which she's always bragging about.

I think kathy is trying to empress anyone, she's way smarter than that in my opinion of her.

Michael Jackson managed to run through a monumental fortune, and do so well before he died. In his last years, he lived on the charity of some Arab bazillionaire, brought his whole family to the middle east to live off of this guy, and when he died he was about to go out and sing for his supper for the first time in years. Well, lip-synch, anyway.

Where did the money go? Yes, Jackson spent a lot and lived very well, but he didn't live as high as some. Personally, I think a huge chunk of his fortune went to paying off the families of cute little boys.

Hello, Kathy Griffith at R149.

R151 I knew that was coming.

But I'm not her. I just think she really can afford her lifestyle.

I remember Griffin boasting about having taken financial advice from Suze Orman in one of her specials. I think Orman was the one who advised her to either pay cash for her house or pay off the mortgage as soon as she could afford to do so.

I have to say that when I posted Kathy Griffin, I mean what R149 is saying. I think has been very tight with her money her whole life, and it has paid off.

Jennifer garner seems to be good with money. She's very wholesome and comes across very simple. And smart with her finances. She definitely not the flashy type that for sure.

Ben likes to gamble, and has for a really long time. I wonder how that's to end. Everyone's career eventually slows down.

So does the money, especially in Hollywood.

Whoopi has high upkeep. Her New Jersey home, she doesn't fly unless overseas and has her own bus with a driver on stand by and having to garage it, not to mention her entire extended family, daughter, son in in law, grand children and even a great grandchild.

Whoopi's entire family lives off of her. That's where the money goes.

Why does whoopis daughter and grandchildren live off her? Her daughter is always with her at big industry events, but why is she taking care of her daughters children?

They need to start businesses etc. I hope she doesn't go broke trying to finance everyone.

According to Mo'Nique, Whoopi Goldberg doesn't make that much money from The View.

[quote] “Whoopi Goldberg told me the salary she makes from The View, and that hurt my feelings,” Mo’Nique, 51, told Comedy Hype. “You’ve been there for 10 years and you accept them paying you that?” “Because [when] you accept that salary, it makes it hard for me,” Mo’Nique said. “And how hard do you think it’s gonna make for the one who ain’t here yet, because you accept that salary?’”

I think Kathy Griffin is good with money. She divorced her ex-husband because (allegedly) he stole $72,000 from her.

[quote] “My ex-husband, without my knowledge, was sneaking into my wallet when I was asleep in the mornings and taking my ATM cards of my own private accounts and withdrawing money,” said [Griffin]. When [Larry] King suggested that, given showbiz salaries, $72,000 isn’t all that much, Griffin said Moline’s action had tainted her feelings toward him: “Unfortunately, we (were not) able to get beyond the trust issue.”

Some women would have stayed married to a thief (alleged), sad to say.

Given how long whoopi has been at The View, I'm sure she collects a nice salary well into the millions. But monique may not think it's good enough.

Whatever whoopis salary is, monique should have kept her mouth shut. This is why her career is as dead as a door nobe now.

She talks a little to much for me. I get where she's coming from, but running your mouth can ruin things for you too.

[Quote] Because [when] you accept that salary, it makes it hard for me,

Me'Nique

Kris jenner is definitely good with money. She and Bruce were broke when they first got together. He was millions in the hole and she didn't really get anything from Robert Kardashian because she cheated on him and that was a factor in her not really getting much in the divorce settlement, if anything at all.

Kris became Bruce's manager and started booking him for speaking engagements and $$ started to roll in, debts got paid off and they were able to buy a nice house in a upper middle class neighborhood in los angels.

Then years later, they forced themselves into the spotlight and now there worth hundreds of millions of dollars, even billions if you believe what's reported in the media.

Cheating affects what you get in a divorce settlement from a long marriage?

Missy Elliot was said to have invested well in clubs and real estate. Apparently she was part owner of the building that she owned a condo in.

R1--Gloria Swanson BECAME good with money after being grifted by that good old swindler Joseph Kennedy. After he ripped her off she became determined to look out for her own interests.

Latoya jackson has always intrested me. You always see her driving around LA in very expensive cars like Bentleys and Rolls Royce's, but I have no clue where money comes from.

And I dont believe it's coming from her brothers estate either. I've also heard, her ex mafia husband took all of her money she made in entertainment and basically fucked it all up. I've just always wondered how her lifestyle is being funded.

In the view tell all book, Sherri Shepard dude she barely made enough to get an apartment in Manhattan when she first started. I'm guessing it was in the low 6 figures. I remember reading at one point that Whoppi made 7 million a year in the show and had to take a pay cut at some point.

I remember reading on here how Janet Jackson did some gig and she received part payment in fast food passes. Apparently, damn near the whole extended Jackson family would turn up at X fast food joint for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I wonder why Whoopi is doing SISTER ACT - THE MUSICAL in London as Deloris. I wonder if she hopes to do a movie of the musical. She mentioned trying to convince producers/studios to greenlight a third SISTER ACT movie.

Whoopi miss those movie checks.

R169, It was Baja Fresh. A writer for a major paper or magazine (can't remember which one) did a story on the Jackson family and was given access to them for a couple of days. And every meal was from Baja Fresh because Janet had given them all free meal cards from that place due to an endorsement deal she had with them. Personally, I like Baja Fresh, but every day? Imagine if it had been Taco Bell!

Dina Lohan (Lindsay's mother) got in trouble for using Lindsay's "Carvel Black Card" to get free ice cream.

[quote]$300 million dollars

[quote]$1 million dollars

No, no, NO! It's either $1 million or 1 million dollars. Did you even go to elementary school?

r140 Grace Slick lives in a massive house in Malibu.

Bad: Stephen Baldwin

r129 we have Doris Duke's financial advisor here, who knew?!

'THe other factor that showed she wasnt any genius is she made her drunken idiot of a butler that eventually probably on purpose made sure she had a fatal overdos the executor of her will.'

The poor old bird was elderly, full of pills and demented, she had no family, only those on the payroll. Lafferty manipulated her. You can bet your bottom dollar the Doris Duke of her prime would never have made Bernard Lafferty the executor of her will. In any case, she could have wasted her fortune ala Barbara Hutton, but she increased it considerably.

One financially dumb thing Doris Duke did was to legally adopt an adult woman. Things went south and DD was unable to legally un-adopt the woman. DD tried to disinherit the woman. Woman challenged the will and got $65 million.

Madonna and Oprah are the first two that spring to mind.

When Ludvig Van Betethoven had passed away his financial estate was valued at 10,000 Florins- the equivalent of $100,000 --$200.000 today. Almost 200 hundred years after his death we still listen to his music with tears gracing our eyes. No matter how much money people like Cason, Ripa, Oprah, e.t.c. will live behind in 50 years no one will know or care who they were or what they have done. Just think a out it ...

I think you're right from a historical perspective, but we've never had the concentration of wealth like we have today. Do you honestly think that some of today's fortunes, the Walton Family comes to mind, will vanish in 50 or even 100 years?

When Ludvig Van Beethoven had passed away his estate was valued at 10,000 Florins- the equivalent of $100,000 --$200.000 today. Almost 200 hundred years after his death we still listen to his music with tears gracing our eyes. No matter how much money people like Cason, Ripa, Oprah, e.t.c. will live behind, in 50 years no one will know or care who they were or what they have done. Just think a bout it ...

There was a considerable concentration of wealth 500 or 200 years ago that have not leaved any tracein the present R181 ... but we still go to the Louvre to enjoy Mona Lisa, we still look at the Pieta with utter amazement. Quoting the amount of wealth does not corelate to the value ....

Barbra hutton blew through what would be today $900 million dollars. She blew right through it in just 55 years.

She didn't give a fuck about $$.

Well Barbara Hutton did have the world's most expensive bad habit - divorces.

Worse than drugs, financially.

Reba is apparently good with money. During her marriage to Narvel her money built their joint company, Starstruck Entertainment, which manages various artists, has a private jet business, among other things. When they divorced he had to pay her a fortune to keep the company and she got the mansion/horse farm which she sold for millions. She doesn’t need to tour or do her Vegas shows, she just does them because she enjoys performing.

NBA star Ray Allen and crazy Russell Westbrook are both GOOD with money. They watch every dime and sign all the checks. Ray Allen did not even have an agent and negotiated his own contracts directly - kept that 10% in his pocket. Russell whips out the checkbook to pay all this bills. He will not be getting ripped off by his accountant. Someone I know was a shady NBA agent and ripped off his client. It was a bad situation but dude was fucking dumb as hell. He had like 10 baby mamas and they all got the same deal a nice car and apartment and child support. His dumb wife stayed with him. The baby mamas were strippers. Again a bad situation. Its like dude get a vasectomy and keep your money!

Lucille Ball was GREAT with Money she and Desi created a production company that produced many hit shows besides their own

[quote]These child stars pre 90's had it rough. Aside from low wages, they often had to deal with people taking advantage of their money.

There were a few child stars pre 90s who luckily had parents who didn't fuck up their finances. Eve Plumb's parents made sure her money was managed well and IIRC, they made some wise real estate investments.

Kandi from the RHOA, is another one who's really good with $$. She's a business woman, she's constantly creating new lucrative business ventures for herself and everything she touches seems to turn to gold.

I don't even think she spends her housewives $$. I believe she said she sign the checks and put them away in a trust or something, and it just collects intrest. She collects a multi million dollar salary from the show and she has a lot of income outside the show as well. Including really successful restaurants and a sex toy line, along with a traveling sex dungeon performance art show which has been a huge financial success.

She's also in the music industry too. So she's been in showbiz for a very long time. And she's still really young, only in her early 40s.

She's very famously frugal and very humble about her wealth. So she's definitely good with money.

[quote]Whoopi Goldberg told me the salary she makes from The View, and that hurt my feelings,” Mo’Nique, 51, told Comedy Hype. “You’ve been there for 10 years and you accept them paying you that?” “Because [when] you accept that salary, it makes it hard for me,” Mo’Nique said. “And how hard do you think it’s gonna make for the one who ain’t here yet, because you accept that salary?’”

There is a BIG difference in what a celebrity thinks is a small salary. You can bet the farm Whoopi is not making minimum wage.

And yet, didn't Ball sell DesiLu for a much smaller amount than what she would have made if she held on to it. She got none of the Star Trek spinoff money, for instance.

R192 She sold Desilu for $17 million in 1967, due to inflation, that is the equivalent of $440,899,292.93 in today's money. I think she was pretty shrewd.

All time worst is Jim and Tammy Baker .....

George w bush, sold his stake in a sports team he own a peice of for $15 million dollars when he decided to run for president.

So he made at least one good deal in his life. Even though that money is for him and his family.

Former tennis player Monica Sales is known to be very shrewd and sensible when it comes to money. Sports journalists used to comment on how she was aware of her winnings, the tax she had to pay and how much of her earnings she'd get to keep even when she was 15 or 16.

Her rival Steffi Graf was the opposite. She let her crooked dad manage all her finances and he ended up serving time in prison for tax evasion.

Monica Seles, not Sales. Damn autocorrect.

[quote]George w bush, sold his stake in a sports team he own a peice of for $15 million dollars

r193 — See r174.

R193 You used a bad inflation calculator. $17 million in 1967 is the equivalent of about $130 million now.

Still a nice chunk of change. And weirdly, Lucille Ball was notoriously cheap. The furniture in her home was left over from the set of "Here's Lucy."

Weirdly? Didn't Ball come of age in the Great Depression?

I've read flip wilson was really good with $$. He was well invested I real estate in Malibu and had millions to his name when he died.

I've also heard that he was really generous to those around him.

Is that Kandi stuff above taken directly from her website or something?

No mention of Jay Z being a billionaire?

Another rapper, Master P was suppose to be worth a half billion.

Russell Simmons and his brother Joe (Run of Run-DMC) are also good with money and amassed a fortune because of publishing rights.

Dr Dre walked away with a huge chunk of an apple deal worth more than $3 billion dollars.

He brought a huge mansion from Tom and Geisel for $40 million dollars in Brentwood in Los angels.

So he's the first person in hip hop to become a billionaire.

I still can't believe Kim K and her family have made so much $$$$$. The way they live is really interesting. Although, they've done so much to make so many dissatisfied with their own lives, via Instagram.

The flashy and flaunting has really ruined society in ways that is just plain sad.

Rosie O Donnell said they don't make much over at The View, and that she was surprised when she learned what Joy was making given how long Joy had been doing the show by that point.

Most of the women who do the show wind up doing side ventures as well. Joy was hosting her own show on Headline News as well as standup gigs, sometimes joint ones with Whoopi. Sherri did her own sitcom for Lifetime, Elizabeth had a fashion collection for HSN. Maybe the show pays better now, but when Walters was in control it didn't seem to be overly generous.

Why would it be overly generous? It's a daytime show. It's niche.

Pete Burns of Dead or Alive died penniless.

R200 She would have been around 18 when it started. Some people after the Great Depression ended still had fears of another one hitting and as a result they were frugal or careful with money.

Good: Bjork. She dropped out of music school at the age of 15 and was in various bands before going solo and gaining full control of her artistry.

Good - Diana Ross

Bad - Mary Wilson

Anyone looking to Mo'Nique for financial advcse deserves to live in a box. The only thing she's done in the past decade is sabotage herself. If she called me her "sister", I'd be like...um...bitch no.

Lucy wasn't spectacularly wealthy when she died and she sold the rights to things she should have held on to. She wasn't the financial/business whiz her fanbots make her out to be.

R199 You're right, I thought that was extremely high. Turns out I changed the year, but after I entered the amount the site returned the year to 1913.

R213 The reason she wasn't as wealthy as she should have been when she died is due to inflation. She sold Desilu for a large amount of money, but then the value of money fell. She was 56, when she sold Desilu, I think she just wanted to cash out and not deal with running a studio.

John Travolta always seems good with money. I remember an interview he gave in the 90's about his 'lean years'. He said he was advised that the piece of advice he always followed was to always have $1 million in the bank. He always owned his own plane, kept his home in the northeast, and could afford all those massages.

What were Travolta's lean years? Those Look Who's Talking Movies went into the 1990s, no? And Pulp Fiction was circa 94/95.

Diana Ross left Motown in 1981 with only $200k in the bank. RCA paid her $20 million to defect. By 1988 she had turned that sum into $75 million. She's sitting pretty with $250 million today, and NO - Arne Naess was never wealthier than her. Mama knew how to make that bank!

R217, [italic]Look Who's Talking[/italic] was a comeback for Travolta. After [italic]Staying Alive[/italic], his career went from white hot to stone cold.

He's talked about getting advice early on while on a plane He was told to invest his acting fees and live off the investment income. When his career stalled, he had plenty of money to live on and play with. I think that's' when he went to flight school to learn to fly jets.

I've always imagined Diana Ross in the $400 million dollar neighborhood.

She tours non stop. She's had concerts in my city twice in the last 3/4 years. And I'm in the south. She also has some pretty sweet real estate too.

If your in showbiz, it's always a good idea to make sure you have business ventures stabilized outside of Hollywood.

That's one business with a lot of uncertainty. You don't want to depend on an industry like entertainment solely for your income.

What if you get black balled for a while? Hollywood is like a club, they'll let you in make you rich and famous and put you up on the greatest pedal stull. Then black ball you for whatever reason.

Hollywood is basically the high school of life. Their the ultimate cool kids in life. Everyone want's in, but not everyone is welcome.

Always a good thing to have lucrative business ventures lined up outside of showbiz. All the smart ones know this.

[Quote] pedal stull

Lil Bow Wow, is that you?

Lose the Little Miss Smilebright contest, did we, R221?

Good: sting

Good: Christie Brinkley

Good: judge Judy

Bad: mc hammer

They have to be making something over at The View, Joy has two beautiful upscale homes. And whoopi has had a lot of real estate for decades.

But whoopi had all of that back when she was truly a movie star. She had real estate all over the country. NYC, Vermont, like 3-5 properties in California alone. Nice peices of real estate too. She recently listed one of her California homes for $8.8 million dollars and sold it for exactly what she asked for. So whoopi is flushed with cash.

She had a loft in Manhattan, but sold that to buy her current home in New Jersey. Whoopi is definitely in a better financial position now. The View definitely helped.

"No mention of Jay Z being a billionaire? "

He is VERY high on my list of celebrities I suspect of not being worth nearly as much as they claim. Some people think it's great publicity to claim they're billionaires or close, and some of them are living like Real Housewives - spending everything they have to look rich.

But I don't suspect Jay Z of being poor as much as I suspect the Kardashians. I think they're all a false front; rich compared to me, but nowhere near as rich as they claim.

R226 yeah, let's be sceptical of black wealth, black success, and black excellence.

Never fails. No one really does this with the smoke and mirror family known as the Kardashians/Jenners.

I wonder how Jay z and Beyonce purchased a nearly $100 million dollar home in Beverly Hills then? In I'm assuming ca$h.

Sting has money because he tours constantly. I think he has about 10 homes. And probably supports all his kids. And Trudie's plastic surgery.

sting has lots of money and spends a lot too. He just spent millions on a condo on billionaire row in nyc. Hey, you can't bring it with you to the grave, might as well spend it.

How about Janeane Garofalo?

R87 Add Ben Kingsley to that list... he seems to be willing to perform in absolutely nay crap that comes his way.

R102 X amount of money in the bank may would not have been her net worth... most wealthy people have most of their assets not liquid.

R183 Have you heard of the Rothschilds?

Lucy wanted to spend money but Gary talked her out of it.

Enya is apparently very wealthy. She records all her records in her own studio, writes everything and performs everything herself.

No, she doesn't. She works with a husband and wife duo.

R236 I saw her profiled on some show years back and I had the impression she did everything herself.

Bad: Tupac. When he died his record company took his house, emptied out he house including his clothes and sued his estate for $5 million in loans.

[Quote] I saw her profiled on some show years back and I had the impression she did everything herself.

Naughty TV show, very naughty.

Good: Raquel Welch, Bing Crosby, Harold Lloyd, Julia Louis Dreyfuss (who might be the richest woman in show business.)

Bad: MC Hammer, Toni Braxton

Most of Dreyfuss' money would be as an heiress to her dad's fortune though, right? I don't doubt that she's wisely invested her own earnings, and she's been the most consistently successful of the Seinfeld actors, but on her own she'd be somewhere in the 9 figures range, not a billionaire.

Oprah would be the wealthiest person in showbiz. Because her fortune actually came from it. Entertainment, media, and business specifically.

Dreyfuss on the other hand, would've been given a huge boost from her wealthy father.

Oprah started with nothing, which makes her completely self made.

Rupert Murdoch, as much as I don't care for him because of fox news and all of his right wing media outlets. He turned his fathers news paper into a much larger empire then it already was. Then he created news corporation, which is literally worth billions. It also owns all of his other propaganda machines which has made him billions of dollars.

You have to be good with $$ and in business to achieve his level of success and wealth.

But he's a horrible man though.

"... Madonna. They all managed their money very smartly and didn't let anyone swindle them or seize control of their finances."

Primo cock is expensive.

Good: Maria Sharapova. At 16 she was asked if she’d rather win Wimbledon or have a million dollars, and replied “Wimbledon, because then the millions will come.” I know we love to focus on the doping thing and her record against Serena but she really is an impressively self-made. The candy company is fabulous business too.

Good: Rihanna. Got screwed over by an accountant in her early 20s and once she destroyed the bastard she became airtight about her fortune. She’ll be a billionaire by 40 just like Taylor Swift.

Good: Charlize Theron. Lives a very frugal life in the same house she lived in while in her 20s.

"How about Janeane Garofalo"

She borrowed $1,500 from me for October's rent. I'm not answering the phone next time.

If you believe the hype, Clooney was a partner in that tequila company they started and sold 4 years later for upwards of a billion dollars.

Note that I said if you believe it. It smells like a PR stunt to me. I suspect he played Colonel Sanders while others actually did the heavy lifting.

R246 Except Colonel Sanders actually did a lot of work.

Alot of the people mentioned here don't really count in my mind as "good with money" but the same person in the same scenario who ends up broke would definitely be "bad with money."

If someone continues to have millions thrown at them for one skill (singing/acting) like for instance, Elton John, then it's real easy to say (and a bit disingenuous) that "He's successful" because a new multimillion dollar paycheck is just around the corner. But if Michael Jackson runs through millions, then he definitely is "Bad with money."

I'd rather hear about the people like Natalie Schafer, who never made the big bucks, but shrewdly used them to amass a fortune over the course of their lives by investing well.

I never believed a tequila brand netted 1 billion, either.

Bad: Gloria Vanderbilt. OK she be dead, too.

Clooney definitely owns part of that company, he traveled all over to promote it. That was very smart of him to have that side biz.

Clooney is also a great friend, he once invited all his close friends ( i think around 10 people) to dinner and gave them all 1 million dollar each (in duffel bags if I remember correctly). Randy Gerber didn't want to accept it but Clooney said, if Randy doesn't accept it then nobody gets the money so Randy accepted it and donated it to charity.

Rihanna is making big bucks with her makeup line. Her Billionaire bf is helping her out in business matters. She definitely picked the right man.

R251 He's got zilch to do with Fenty. That is LVMH euros and expertise, Hunty.

It’s true The View pays them pennies. It’s why they all have so many side gigs. Why is Sunny launching a tacky show on the ID channel and a podcast? She’s been working there for half a decade and you’d think would surely get better options.

Whoopi was in such a bad financial place post-Hollywood Squares and pre-The View (she must have burned through all that movie money during her peak years), and Hollywood has NEVER given her offers worthy of her talent. She saw the writing on the wall re: her creative career and so she stays there for the (according to Mo’Nique) unworthy salary because it’s a safe gig. Even though she hates it, sleepwalks through reading the teleprompter, and lights up when doing other work (like the Stephen King miniseries, or Sister Act on stage… stuff she’s genuinely passionate about - performing).

Note: none of the hosts are POOR, but they don’t make anywhere near what some of their other Daytime contemporaries make (even Wendy Williams). Probably something to do with the licensing deal, since the show is under the ‘ABC News’ division which could prevent them from getting a better cut of the profits.

Mary J Blige is bad with money and not just because she let her no good (now ex) husband handle her business and finances. Even before him, she was getting ripped off by Diddy and co, got basically zero percent of the publishing, and is self-confessed to know nothing about money.

For someone who has sold as many records as she has, has toured as much as she has, and has done as many TV / film appearances as she has (and performed at the Grammys that many times), she’s spent her whole career without much to show for it. She is very prolific too in terms of output.

Only now in the last 3 or so years has she started to really make that money from doing network TV, and Netflix shows and movies.

Master P is insanely good with money. A real entrepreneur who started selling CDs out of his car and is now worth half a billion at least. Shrewd, good with business.

Why would a panellist make what a solitary host with their name in the damn title makes?

Does Mary have many writing credits?

Raven Symone. All her child acting cheques were put into a fund for her when she came of age. She was a producer of her own show (and is now again on Raven’s Home), owned a stake in all her music/movies/Disney money, gets royalties and percentages of the gross…. I remember an article where she was aware of how much she was being taxed even at 13-14. Her parents really did well with her too and she never spent lavishly (she bought her first “mini mansion” as she calls it, about 5 years ago when she went to art school).

Mary was a whore (she said so herself) and all her money probably went to drugs and men who used her.

I don't really believe that post about MJB. If singers weren't also their own main songwriter, the money for a recording artist has always been in concert work. If Mary pissed that money away with no good types handling the money, then that's on her. It's not like MJB only had brief commercial success.

"Swanson’s salary only continued to rise. At one point, she was making — and spending — $20,000 a week, which is a cool quarter million in today-dollars. These were the days of the gold bathtub, black marble bathroom, four personal secretaries, and an “Atlantic City boardwalk chair in which a manservant wheeled her around the [studio] lot.” Girl spent $10,000 a year ($125,000-ish in today-dollars) on LINGERIE. For a 300-person dinner party, she gave favors of solid-gold compacts (for women) and solid-gold cigarette cases (for men). Fur coats, diamonds, hundreds of dresses and shoes and stockings in a serious Clueless/Alicia-Silverstone overdose of sartorial luxury."

How can someone spend 250k per *WEEK*? Even making that much back then is ludicrous. The early silent film days really were the wild west as far as money/glamour/debauchery go in Hollywood.

Music stars make a lot more money than actors. They can make a fortune from touring and festival appearances. The only actors who make that kind of money are the top stars in the Marvel movies and TV stars with big syndication deals, like Jennifer Aniston, Jim Parsons and Sophia Vergara. Reese Witherspoon also makes a fortune in TV.

Madonna, Rihanna, Taylor, Ariana, Barbra and Beyonce make the kind of money these actors can only dream about.

Are there receipts for all that r262? I suspect there's a lot of mythmaking going on.

[quote] Probably something to do with the licensing deal, since the show is under the ‘ABC News’ division which could prevent them from getting a better cut of the profits.

Before 2014, they were part of ABC Daytime not ABC News. I suspect though that they get paid less simply because they are a network show and not syndicated. It is the same reason, I suspect Pat Sajak, Vanna White, and Alex Trebek make more than Drew Carey or Wayne Brady.

"The View" was actually supposed to go into syndication about a decade ago. Barbara Walters talked about it, she said if it did it would mean a fortune for each panelist on the show.

I dont know what happened, but they would've been very wealthy today. It definitely would've meant way more $$ for everyone.

R262 I dont know about there being way more money in music then there is in acting. I've always heard musicians say, they love getting to act in film and television because there's so much more money in Hollywood then there is in the music industry.

I've heard a lot of rappers say it and I remember hearing queen Latifah say it too. Musicians are always talking about how much bigger the movie and tv paychecks are, then anything in music.

I've always seen Hollywood as the place where the real $$ is.

Everyone seems to want to either get into the movie business or land a hit TV series. It all leads to $$.

[quote]How about Janeane Garofalo?

Hard to tell. Those celeb net worth sites aren't totally accurate and some sites claim she has a net worth of 10 million. I would say she's ok financially. She doesn't have kids and I don't think she would be the type to fuck up with money.

There are probably some C and D list actors who while not mega wealthy are probably financially secure because they manage money well . Kristy McNichol was said to have invested some of her acting money into condos. McNichol retired from the TV business years ago and was teaching drama classes at a private LA school for several years.

R267 Celebrity Net Worth is a dubious website, so I doubt that Janeane Garofalo is worth 10 million. She never had a big hit.

Okay, I'm totally not finding this online, but wasn't Mary Pickford, or actually her mother, the original Star good with money. didn't her mother handle the finances and invest in real estate throughout Los Angeles, ensuring a huge fortune for decades?

[quote] $8.8 million dollars

*sigh*

Also, r225, would it kill you to learn to spell "piece" correctly, or is that just another thing you choose to get wrong?

R270 You can look it up for yourself that whoopi sold her California home for $8.8 million dollars. Why would I make up some shit like that?

She sold the house in February 2018 in the Pacific palisades exactly for $8.8 million dollars. She sold it and got the asking price.

And as for "piece" errors are guaranteed in life. If only we all could as perfect as you.

BITCH!!!!!

It's not the price of the house, it's the way you write it. As has previously been pointed out here, it's either "$8.8 million" or "8.8 million dollars." It is NOT "$8.8 million dollars." That would translate to "8.8 million dollars dollars."

It's the new WHET. Watch your damn dollar signs, people!!!!

Because...

Priorities, R270 & R272.

R274 Exactly, and especially on a gossip site like DL.

The sale price of a property doesn't tell you how much equity the seller has. They could be multiple-mortgaged out the ass.

I'm curious why Donny and Marie Osmond's net worth is only $18-20 mil each. I know D & M each have a small private jet.

By contrast, Penn and Teller each have a reported net worth of $180 mil, EACH! Th do not have a private plane, but fly first class everywhere.

All 4 have been working hard in the biz for 4+ decades. Why the difference?

Good: Bing Crosby, Bob Hope Bad: Desi Arnaz (sold his share of Desilu to Lucy, gambled, whored, drank prodigiously, ended up living in a modest beach house in Del Mar when he had been the biggest TV producer and one of the biggest TV stars of the 50s). David O. Selznick was probably ok with money (enough to still live in a mansion and throw lavish parties) but he gambled a lot and overspent on his independent movies to the point that he was out of the movie business fairly young.

[quote]I'm curious why Donny and Marie Osmond's net worth is only $18-20 mil each. I know D & M each have a small private jet.

Those online net worth listings aren't always accurate. But, I wouldn't be surprised if Donny and Marie have both donated a lot of money to the Mormon church over the years.

Also, did Donny and Marie write a lot of their songs? If they didn't that would mean less income.

A lot of celebrities take care of their families too. Still isn't a reason to be bad with $$, but it is a reality for some. They make it, and they don't want to leave anyone behind.

Very understandable.

r18, what about that TV show Damages. I did enjoy the first 3 seasons though.

Whoopi claims she’s broke because she’s been divorced three times. Every divorce cut her wealth in half. I can believe it. She seems to have married deadbeats, and nowadays it seems her entire family is on the payroll. Nobody works except for her. Her daughter seems to be the most useless person in creation.

Whoopi should be making good $$ now. Ever since she landed The View, that should've put her back in the black. Plus she has a lot of outside opportunities and projects generates income from too. Usually people who are always crying poor mouth, are the ones who loaded and financially secure.

I know plenty of people like that.

R281 That's been the case with some celebs and pro athletes. Sometimes the family members or relatives mooch way too much and it ends fucking up the celeb or pro athlete's finances at some point. The documentary Broke about pro athletes who ended up broke detailed accounts from athletes who were drained financially by friends and family.

Some lotto winners have ended up broke due to family members and friends. I recall some documentary years back about the lottery and a lawyer who represented a lotto winner talked about how the client had to take out restraining orders on several relatives.

When you become a celebrity with a lucrative career, you have to know how to dole out $$. If I was a celebrity making Oprah level $$$. I would at least put my siblings in a upper middle class lifestyle, and provide everyone with a generous trust. That would constantly replenished on their birthdays and right before Christmas.

It's just how you set things up. You have to first have the finances to be able to do it, then you have to be financially organized so you don't go broke. It all really comes down to the type of $$ you make as a celebrity, also how you choose to dole out the $$.

If your financially literate and competent with $$$. You'll be fine taking care of your close family. Especially with a good wealth management team behind you. That's all it really comes down to is financial competence.

R284: that article at r277 says Marie Osmond just joined The View, so I guess Marie should be able to grow her net worth more now, compared to her Vegas show of the past 11 years.

Maybe she can catch up to Donny as google says she has slightly less than him (he= $20 mil. She= $18 mil)

Tut-tut on Donny & Marie. I thought Mormons were supposed to be really good with money.

[quote]Mormons are slightly more likely to be in a middle income bracket than the general population; 38% of Mormons report earning between $50,000 and $100,000 annually, compared with 30% among the population overall in this income category. Mormons are slightly less likely than the general public to be in the lowest income bracket (26% earn $30,000 or less per year compared with 31% among the general public), but they are about as likely to make $100,000 or more annually as the rest of the population (16% and 18%, respectively). This places Mormons roughly in the middle of other religious traditions on the socioeconomic spectrum. Jews, Hindus and Buddhists tend to have more education and higher incomes than Mormons, while Jehovah’s Witnesses and members of historically black Protestant churches and evangelical Protestant churches fall on the opposite end of the continuum.

Donny and Marie each have a shit-ton of adult children, plus 20 siblings who haven't seen a big payday since the seventies, and probably thousands of nieces and nephews and cousins because holy fuck those Osmonds are prolific!

Plus a church that expects its members to fork over. If those two have anything left at their ages, it's because they've fought off the ravening hordes.