DL fave Joyce Bulifant opens up about her Brady Bunch humiliation.

While I enjoyed Florence Henderson, I certainly would have loved Joyce.

She seems unusually level-headed and nice.

If I didn't know her, I would never guess that she's 80. She's been blessed.

Her voice was always too "chipmunk" I much prefer Flo Henderson's calmer voice.

"Now Jan, don't be a bitch. Marcia is prettier and more popular than you. Just deal with it and move on. And if Alice tries to lure you into her room with a dime store locket, you say no! Sodomy is only reserved for the boys."

Looks great . Why in the world would Paramount re-title "Airplane!" "Flying High!" in other English speaking countries?

Joyce lost the role because she refused to have her hair styled in the Carol Brady flip.

That, and because she kept referring to Robert Reed as Nancy.

Joyce lacked wessonality.

[quote]She's been blessed.

Sure. Blessed my my ex-husband's DICK. The little bitch!

"Why in the world would Paramount re-title "Airplane!" "Flying High!" in other English speaking countries?"

Because Airplane is an Americanised word, the word in proper English is Aeroplane.

She looks fantastic for 80. Looks as though she's had a facelift, but a really good one. No Botox or fillers...I miss people aging well. She's doing it right.

R6 That’s a terrible thing to say. It wasn’t Joyce who referred to Robert Reed as “Nancy”. It was Nancy Reagan. Ronnie called him “Big Mommie”

I’d love to eat Joyce’s cunt.

Is that before or after she went over to the set of Bewitched and stole Elizabeth Montgomery's husband?

She just seems too wacky to play Carol. While Carol and Mike could be funny, they were more the down to earth straight men for the kids and Alice.

Wow, I had no idea Joyce Bulifant was the slut of all time.

Respect.

Something came up.

Don't worry about ol' Joyce. She landed on her, uh, feet with a gig on Bill Cosby's 1970 sitcom.

It's funny how "four husbands" makes her sound like (an underachieving) Liz Taylor, but she was married to the first for ten years and her second ended after twenty years in widowhood. Only the third marriage was actually short lived.

I remember her from several Perry Mason episodes as the accused murderer.

Why was she on Tattletales with Ron Masak if they were never married?

^Because she's a whore.

I'm sorry but I have grown to hate her watching Match Game reruns. She is a bad player and gives "perky" a bad name.

Joyce has had five husbands, so far. She rebounded nicely from the Brady Bunch fiasco, playing Tattletales with her second husband.

She’s delightful doing “Bye Yum Pum Pum” with supercunt Lesley Ann Warren in The Happiest Millionaire.

Why are elder gays obsessed with Joyce Bulifant?

So did Joyce beat out Florence to originally win the role, or was Florence not in the mix until they decided to replace Joyce?

They wanted Flo, but you was tied up...until she wasn't.

What’s the difference between Joyce Bulifant and Elaine Joyce?

On the plus side, Joyce was spared the indignity of jumping the shark with Cousin Oliver.

Oh That Joyce!

Joyce married rich.

[quote]On the plus side, Joyce was spared the indignity of jumping the shark with Cousin Oliver.

But being husband crazy she might have jumped Cousin Oliver.

She definitely had a varied love life and family life. First husband was James (book ‘em Dano) MacArthur, so the in-laws were Helen Hayes and Charles MacArthur. Shared husbands with Elizabeth Montgomery and Joanne Worley. Was mother-in-law to former Playmate and The View panelist Jenny McCarthy. And as the TV wife of Murray on MTM show she got to shine his head every night.

Her autobiography is actually pretty good, because her husband's were such train wrecks.

On her husband Ed Mallory (Days of Our Lives): When I walked into the house and started toward our bedroom, I saw a large note taped to the door, “J Day,” and beneath that, “Knock on the door-put the children in their rooms-knock on the door again-count to 50-slowly open the door.” What in the world was going on? I walked through the living room to make sure the children were in their rooms and noticed all the plants, flowers and candles from the mantle and the dining room table were missing. Oh, no, he wants to have a romantic dinner in the bedroom. I was tired and I didn’t want to be lured back into a very bad situation. I knocked on the door, counted to 50 and opened the bedroom door. The room was filled with flowers and plants. Every candle in the house was burning. Ed was laid out like a corpse on the bed wearing the suit he was married in, with dead flowers stuck in the lapel. His face was painted white and his hands were folded across his chest. Above his head was a huge painted sign “IF YOU LEAVE ME I WILL DIE.” A bottle of champagne and two champagne flutes were on the nightstand. On the record player, Patti Page sang, “Is that all there is?” After his many threats of suicide, my reaction to this scene was horror! I was furious and terribly upset. I tried to lift the needle off the record, but it skidded across, making a terrible screeching sound. I yelled and cried at the same time, “This isn’t funny! It isn’t nice! Get up! Get up!” I kept yelling and sobbing at the same time. I filed for divorce.

^^ I believe she means Peggy Lee, not Patti Page.

Can some start or link an Elaine Joyce thread?

This site is so educational. I had no idea Joyce Bulifant was a big ol' slut. hmmm...

I did a proper search and found the Elaine Joyce thread.

Ole Joycie could fuck and suck with the best of them!

Bulifant was the Melissa Benoist of her time.

She'd fuck anything with a pulse.

If her Brady Bunch character went from whacky to traditional mother, why couldn’t they keep Joyce and just have her play the character traditional? Why did they have to replace her? She played a traditional wife/mother in The Mary Tyler Moore Show, albeit in a limited role as Murray’s wife.

Apparently Joyce was blowing the dog who played Tiger.

They quickly dropped his character without explanation to avoid scandal.

Wait, I thought Melissa Benoist is Prime Dick Only.

Joyce has a great attitude and outlook on life. Probably became an optimist after attending decades of Al-Anon meetings, due to marrying drunks repeatedly.

She was really axed because she gave Sherwood Schwartz syphilis.

After the sexual tornado Joyce tore through the Brady Bunch production staff, they decided to make Carol Brady a virginal character. Joyce's lusty, overripe sensuality made her clearly wrong for the part.

"Aim your cum squirters right here!"

[quote]She is a bad player and gives "perky" a bad name.

I agree

She's 80? Damn.

Bitch stole my hair-do. I must speak with her manager!

Joyce is sort of an older, female version of Cousin Oliver: blonde and ditzy with a squeaky voice. They would have cancelled each other out.

She seems to have a good attitude about getting canned on BB. She admits disappointment but is gracious about Flo's success.

Flo was pretty perfect as Carol. She could do comedy and drama, she had great wife chemistry with Robert, great friend chemistry with Alice, and great mom chemistry with the kids. She was also a looker. All around, probably the best casting choice for the show.

She was last married to that good looking Roger Perry. Pity she didn't get some of him from his earliest years in Hollywood when he was such a dishy piece.

[quote]This site is so educational. I had no idea Joyce Bulifant was a big ol' slut. hmmm...

Meh! She was no Shirley Jones.

The man at r50 is average looking.

[quote] Joyce's lusty, overripe sensuality made her clearly wrong for the part.

Flo dated Barry Williams: I think the role of Carol Brady simply cried out for a high degree of slutitude.

And let the crazed tweets begin. Tonight's gonna be a rough one for Jabba.

r52=JoAnne Worley

I always got Roger Perry confused with Roger Davis. Both had these kind of steady but mostly low level careers, which Dvis mostly leaving show business to work as a builder.

[quote]DL fave Joyce Bulifant opens up

Keep those legs closed, Joyce! No one wants to see your octogenarian cooter!

Sorry, wrong thread at R54.

Jabba Bulifant goes on Tweet rampages?

Joyce and Roger share a star on the Palm Springs Walk of Fame.

I guess they had to leave off "Sexologists" for space.

Flo did not “date” Barry unless you define “date” as enjoying a single meal together.

r60 I'm planning to drop by the star and drop off a big load right on top of it.

Her biography is quite good. She dishes a lot on her mother-in-law Helen Hayes as well. It was a complicated relationship. When I ordered the book from her website I didn’t get it and sent her a note. She was super apologetic and I got it very soon after. She goes in streaks with posting on her Facebook page, but it is fun. She seems a genuine sort overall. And she and Gavin McCloud want to do some kind of Murray and Marie Show.

^^ Gavin MacLeod

A Murray and Marie Show would be awful, since MacLeod became a religious nut about 25 years ago.

Any woman who got pounded by the famed James MacArthur megacock for years and lived to tell the tale has my great admiration. MacArthur's member was said to put Milton Berle's to shame.

Poor Joyce, that was a tough blow. But probably the right decision for the show. She looks fantastic, and I was interested to note that the voice seems real, not just put on for show. All those drunken husbands!

Florence's first season do was more of a helmet bouffant.

[quote] Florence's first season do was more of a helmet bouffant.

Because it was a wig.

R68, must you be so literal? You must be a blast at parties.

The bitch should shut up about it. I never complained

Cousin Oliver was only on the last six episodes and the show was long cancelled before he showed up.

Eve really does look like her - especially on the recent HGTV thingy, the resemblance is pretty strong.

And I could have sworn Gavin MacLeod was dead.

Her third husband was William Asher, previous husband to Elizabeth Montgomery. Also an alcoholic. And, he liked to mix them with pills. They were married for 17 years and he adopted her son, the director John Asher, but ultimately she threw in the towel because of his addictions. Here's a passage on that husband:

"Something had happened to Bill physically that changed our marital relationship completely. There was nothing that could be done except a type of surgery that Bill didn’t want to undergo. It was a very difficult time for us; we had had such a loving, sexual relationship. At the movies it became difficult to watch love scenes. I would look away—it was too painful and I noticed Bill looked away too. Walking through a lingerie department and touching the silk nighties was torture. I was upset that Bill didn’t want to try the surgery, but I tried to understand. It was his body, but mine felt abandoned."

Sounds like William Asher had Peyronie's Disease.

He probably thought she wouldn't leave. But Joyce Bulifant needs cock!

[Quote] Walking through a lingerie department and touching the silk nighties was torture.

Mary!

Joyce Bulifant

She was damn lucky to be on the MTM show. She was the weak link.

Her son, John Asher, was married to Jenny McCarthy, 1999-2005. They had a son, Evan, with autism. And now you know the rest of the story.

Oh, that John Asher.

She wasn't the weak link, r79. There really wasn't one. Joyce was a cookie cutter perky blonde. No more, no less. She was never going to win an Oscar, but staying in her lane kept her employed for a number of years.

Joyce knew she looked her alluring best in bed, and lingerie shopping became painfully tragic when she knew there would be no sexual payoff.

[quote] But Joyce Bulifant needs cock!

Of course I need cock. After having James MacArthur's bull meat nightly for years I need a nightly home ground pounding.

#FreeHerCooter

She could have been the next Patsy Cline.

Her career is a whole lot of Almosts and Not Quites.

Evan isn't autistic anymore.

[quote]Something had happened to Bill physically that changed our marital relationship completely. There was nothing that could be done except a type of surgery that Bill didn’t want to undergo. It was a very difficult time for us; we had had such a loving, sexual relationship. At the movies it became difficult to watch love scenes. I would look away—it was too painful and I noticed Bill looked away too. Walking through a lingerie department and touching the silk nighties was torture. I was upset that Bill didn’t want to try the surgery, but I tried to understand. It was his body, but mine felt abandoned."

I didn't know circumcision was that big of a deal!

[quote]Something had happened to Bill physically that changed our marital relationship completely. There was nothing that could be done except a type of surgery that Bill didn’t want to undergo.

It wasn't that bad, really.

Would a strap-on have saved that marriage?

[quote] why couldn’t they keep Joyce and just have her play the character traditional? Why did they have to replace her?

Sherwood explained to me that they wanted someone boring, without any color or inflection in her voice.

So of course, Florence made perfect sense.

More details on James MacArthur’s big dick? I’ve never heard that before. Loved him in SWISS FAMILY ROBINSON and on HAWAII 50.

[quote] Flo did not “date” Barry unless you define “date” as enjoying a single meal together.

That “single meal” consisted of me chowing down on Flo’s aromatic mound of Venus for a couple of hours.

There must be at least one DLer who paid $75.00 to see this. Please share your review.

“Remembering Helen Hayes with Love: A Tribute from a Daughter-in-Law,” starring Joyce Bulifant and Roger Perry, 7-9 p.m., Coachella Valley Repertory Theatre, The Atrium, Rancho Mirage. $75. Benefits Coachella Valley Repertory Theatre."

And I'm even learning that she was Helen Hayes' daughter in law Fascinating....

Ed Mallory showed a big basket on Days.

Yes, her second husband was Edward Mallory, who was playing Bill Horton on Days of Our Lives at the time. Bill was in love with his brother Mickey's wife Laura. At one point, Bill's lust for Laura was so intense, he raped Laura, who became pregnant as a result. Laura passed the child off as Mickey's for many years. When Mickey finally learned that young Mike Horton was really fathered by his brother, Mickey had a heart attack and developed amnesia. Eventually, Mickey divorced Laura, leaving Laura free to marry Bill.

In real life, after Joyce divorced Ed Mallory, he married the actress who played his son's wife on the show.

Almost like life imitating art.

Wow r97. Mallory had a thing for baby voiced blondes then which is odd to me since his (Bill Horton) personality read sweet but typical straitlaced WASP.

[quote]In real life, after Joyce divorced Ed Mallory, he married the actress who played his son's wife on the show.

She was Susanne Zenor, who people would likely recognize from 70s roles such as The Baby or the cheerleader who back flips to her death over a balcony in the Stockard Channing "The Girl Most Likely to..." (1973) TV motw.

[quote] More details on James MacArthur’s big dick?

Back in the day the triumvirate of big Hollywood dicks was Milton Berle, Forrest Tucker, and James MacArthur. Berle had the rep for having the biggest one in Tinseltown, but those in the know said it was actually James MacArthur was the biggest.

I met her a couple of years ago. Energy for days. I thought she was 60.

Joyce piping in.....

Joyce could be in a remake of the Golden Girls.

Joyce feeds her pussy...

Joyce seems to hint that James MacArthur may have been the biological child of Charles Macarthur. Everyone knew Charlie was unfaithful. He had an affair with Dorothy Parker before marrying Helen Hayes. Dorothy ended up having an abortion, and Charlie never seemed to have any intentions of marrying her. I don't see a huge resemblance between James and Charlie, but it's possible. Here's the weird story Joyce tells about how James said he was adopted:

"Jimmy had told me he was adopted when he was six months old, but no one told him. He read it in the newspaper when he was seven years old. Jimmy explained that his father had seen him in a foundling home and picked him out of all the babies to adopt. Jim went on to say that he must have been from a very wealthy family because he was dressed in silk and lace. I always thought it was a sweet story that his father, Pop, had probably made up. But Jimmy really seemed to believe it. Maybe he needed to. Jimmy also said that Pop had always been faithful, never played around. I don’t know why he felt that was important for me to know. I had heard that Charlie MacArthur had a serious drinking problem and was quite a womanizer."

I mean, his father found him in a foundling home? Just his father? Also, Helen Hays had a very uneven relationship with James. Joyce indicates that there was some resentment on Helen's part.

Helen was devastated when her daughter, Mary, died suddenly from the onset of bulbar polio when she was nineteen. Helen never got over that.

There is definitely evidence that the birth parents of James and the MacArthurs knew each other - a more likely scenario than MacArthur himself having fathered the boy.

Maybe he was Helen Lawson's illegitimate son! (That could be where he inherited the gene for big dicks. )

R73, you're right. Except that Joyce looks FANTASTIC for 80, let alone 65, while Eve already is looking a little rubbery.

SHES A HORRIBLEO BITCH

No, of course she’s not

R108 SHES A HORRIBLEO BITCH

I was never really that crazy about her. Sometimes she bugged me. But damn girl... you look fucking great. Good work indeed.

Frankly, I don't think the Brady Bunch would have worked with Joyce as the mom. Joyce playing the zany, baby voiced mom to six kids just wouldn't have resonated well. It would have gone against the grain of the show we came to love. I doubt the show with Joyce as Carol would have lasted more than one season.

I disagree, r112. I think Joyce would have taken a more Strindberg approach to the material.

In all honesty, devoting so much work, time and energy working on The Brady Bunch would only have stood in the way of Joyce's pursuit of cock.

Flo was able to be more of an authority figure. Joyce would have changed the dynamic---she would have worked if it was less about parents dealing with a blended family and more about her conspiring against the kids against the husband. She's usually sweet but often a little ditsy, so they would have needed a different vision for the mother. Joyce would have been find as a sweet but somewhat ditsy neighbor---like Tanya Roberts on That 70s Show but more warm and less flaky

James McArthur said she was a bitch. He and Helen Hayes sided with Ed Mallory against Joyce when she dumped him.

Isn't the main actress in the Crest ad the schoolteacher from Little House? (She looks there like she should play Lisa Kudrow's mother.)

Joyce & Bernie....

Yes, R117, that's Charlotte Stewart who played Miss Beatle.

[quote]I think Joyce would have taken a more Strindberg approach to the material.

Possibly. Although she might also have gone with a Tennessee Williams approach, and played Carol as a faded Southern belle who is just a bit "off." There might also have been some question about exactly what really did happen to her first husband, with a season two revelation that he killed himself after Joyce/Carol caught him in bed with the newsboy.

Joyce was always about the subtext, wasn't she?

If they kept Joyce, I could see the marriage dynamic being more like "Bewitched." I could see Robert Reed being in Dick Sargent's part.

I think Joyce would have put a couch potato spin on the role.

Joyce '62

Gene Hackman was up for the Mike Brady role as well.

NOW let your imaginations run wild.

Robert Reed would have been nothing short of marvelous as Popeye Doyle!

[quote]Joyce was always about the subtext, wasn't she?

No, she was all about the jizz spewing cocks.

I wonder how long before Joycie says she had a lesbian make out session with Maureen.

Did Joyce ever like to, you know, take it up the ass?

[quote]I wonder how long before Joycie says she had a lesbian make out session with Maureen.

Over my dead pussy!

In her next vlog Joyce reveals that she also lost the coveted role of Nina in "Song of Norway" to Florence.

"They said I could play a troll in the dream sequence instead!"

TIL that I've been confusing Joyce Bulifant with Elaine Joyce since my '70s childhood. I've thought they're the same person for over 40 years! At least please tell me they were both on Match Game, a fave of my parents back in the day. There has to be a logical reason why I'm confusing two actresses I haven't seen in decades.

Hayes said that her daughter's death didn't destroy her because she had her Catholicism which helped her cope. She said it destroyed her husband and he died from grief. I understand her home in Nyack which is now some security protected compound for Rosie was back then a comfortable home where neighbors would see her puttering around the lawn and garden.

I had a huge crush on James from his Disney films when I was a boy so I went to a tribute to Lillian Gish at Lincoln Center to see him speak after a showing of one of her rarer silents. She was his godmother. I asked him about his days at Disney and he said that Walt allowed him to spend a night in his apartment over I think it's the firehouse station on Main Street in Disneyland and what it was like to have the park to himself for one evening. I was thrilled that I was able to speak to him. I could see though he was getting old and it made me sad because I never watched Hawaii 5-0 so to me he was always the lad from Third Man on the Mountain and Swiss Family Robinson. I'm glad I had no idea he was so notoriously gifted. I had read somewhere a while ago that he really was the son of Macarthur and his mistress and Hayes adopted him.

[quote]Did Joyce ever like to, you know, take it up the ass?

No Bob. That was just you.

Actually, the infamous ass-to-ass dildo scene in Requiem for a Dream was based on a party trick Joyce would do with Patty Deutsch.

The iconic gangbang scene in the classic porn film Babyface (1977) was based on nights ending in Y in the Bulifant/Asher/Mallory/MacArthur households.

[quote]This site is so educational. I had no idea Joyce Bulifant was a big ol' slut. hmmm...

On the contrary, in her day as with as with Elizabeth Taylor, you could fuck an army as long as you married them all.

r133, Rosie moved out of that house years ago. She bought 4 houses about a mile and a half sorth of there but also right on the river. Rosie opened her big mouth about buying Helen Hayes' house, which had previously been published in many celebrity address books. Rosie had people ringing her bell, asking for money, and sending her mail and packages non-stop. This was back when she was "The Quuen of Nice" and not big, angry lesbian. (Ellen fans watch out, she'll go down this road too.)

A friend of mine grew up with James MacArthur's third wife and she was in this house a few times. She was in it shortly before Rosie bought it and she said it needed a lot of work.

Bulifant and Deutch, together again, r135.

The Helen Hayes house looks very grand, doesn’t really seem to fit Rosie. Can’t believe she got it for $770,000.

I'm personally surprised Joyce wasn't a bigger star. Usually all that cocksucking gets a girl places .

And still no one gives a shit about me, the only actually funny one

I only know her from Happiest Millionaire which I saw as a boy at Radio City. Played that LP to death. Never watched those game shows. Hated Brady Bunch even as a kid. I think I would have liked it more with her. Never liked Flo and would have seen Song of Norway had she not been in it. I wish Andrews had done Chitty and Norway instead of the two abominations Star! and Lili. Do not get Henderson at all though she seems like she was a very nice person. How in the world did she get the leads in Fanny, Girl who Came to Supper and the revival of South Pacific at the Music Theater of Lincoln Center? Clearly big Broadway producers liked her a lot. She must have put out quite a bit because God knows she was not going to sell tickets.

Florence was quite pretty. Many Broadway singers aren't.

[quote][R108] SHES A HORRIBLEO BITCH

[quote]—Oh, dear!

Actually Horribleo is a portmanteau of Horrible and Leo.

I guess. For Wesson commercials. I always saw her like you see in that photo from Norway. Like verging on pretty but not really.

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It's horizontal cha-cha, r147.

She's almost pleasant to look at.

[quote]Over my dead pussy!

This is going to be my new go-to phrase.

r139 Joyce only went on that show because she thought it was called "Beat the COCK."

What is it with these shitass Aussies getting American interviews?

Shit your mouth, we wouldn't have that relatively recent Teri Garr one if it weren't for the Aussies.

Well she didn't suck my cock.