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Fran Lebowitz

Is she not the most perfect human ever? Can't wait to see her Netflix series with Martin Scorsese. Discuss

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by Anonymousreply 136April 21, 2020 1:20 AM

Her wallpaper is very nice.

by Anonymousreply 1October 25, 2019 4:12 AM

I'm a big Fran fan, but I'd sure like to know when she plans to finish "Exterior Signs of Wealth." She has, apparently, been working on it since about 1985.

Scorsese's "Public Speaking" was great. There are some excerpts on YouTube, including this one which starts with Fran's description of the difficulty she had learning to tell time. God, she's wonderful!

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by Anonymousreply 2October 25, 2019 4:49 AM

I worship the ground she smokes on.

by Anonymousreply 3October 25, 2019 5:13 AM

Today is Fran's birthday. She was born October 27, 1950.

by Anonymousreply 4October 27, 2019 4:14 PM

LOVE LOVE LOVE Fran. If I was a lesbian, I'd date her.

by Anonymousreply 5October 27, 2019 4:19 PM

"She has a certain... naive charm. But no MUSCLE!" But seriously, one my fave quotes of hers is her idea of the outdoors is the sidewalk she crosses leaving her building to get into a cab. My friends in Seattle could never understand her humour. Having been born in New York City, I found (find) it hilarious. It's like British humour. If you have to explain it, you realize you should never have opened your fucking mouth. Happy Birthday to you Fran. Please don't go away.

by Anonymousreply 6October 27, 2019 4:33 PM

[R4], just began "Lucia In London." Georgie certainly did have it bad for Olga, now didn't he?

by Anonymousreply 7October 27, 2019 4:34 PM

[quote]I'd sure like to know when she plans to finish "Exterior Signs of Wealth."

It’s really more of a joke now, isn’t it? More famous for having not been written.

I had tix to see her in LA a year or two ago but had to miss. Adore her.

by Anonymousreply 8October 27, 2019 4:42 PM

I like her, but she's far from perfect, you dimwit.

by Anonymousreply 9October 27, 2019 4:48 PM

I do love her wit. A dying talent. And her rejection of capitalism and new NY. She represents all that is great about NY. Not the fabulous restaurants and expensive apartments - the smart, witty, opinionated people.

by Anonymousreply 10October 27, 2019 4:49 PM

her snatch is old and moldy

by Anonymousreply 11October 27, 2019 4:50 PM

I could watch Fran all day

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by Anonymousreply 12October 27, 2019 4:50 PM

she's a hot piece of ass

by Anonymousreply 13October 27, 2019 4:53 PM

From her Proust Questionnaire in Vanity Fair:

[quote] If you were to die and come back as a person or thing, what do you think it would be?

[quote] Thing

by Anonymousreply 14October 27, 2019 4:54 PM

While looking for her comment about earning money versus stealing it (still looking), I came across this page that has 58 Fran quotes.

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by Anonymousreply 15October 27, 2019 5:04 PM

Ah! Found the quote about earning versus stealing.

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by Anonymousreply 16October 27, 2019 5:10 PM

One of my favorites:

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by Anonymousreply 17October 27, 2019 5:14 PM

she needs some hair styling

by Anonymousreply 18October 27, 2019 5:30 PM

If she had hair styling, R18, she wouldn't be Fran Lebowitz. She'd start talking like Kathie Lee Gifford.

by Anonymousreply 19October 27, 2019 5:50 PM

Thanks for posting that, R17. It was marvelous!

by Anonymousreply 20October 27, 2019 6:03 PM

maybe some better hair dye

by Anonymousreply 21October 27, 2019 7:51 PM

[quote]just began "Lucia In London." Georgie certainly did have it bad for Olga, now didn't he?

Hi, R7. I've been trying to think of a witty response to your post, but haven't come up with a darn thing. I'm no Fran Lebowitz, that's for sure!

So, I'll just say that, if this is your first reading of the Lucia books, you're in for a big treat. (And, there's more of Georgie and Olga to come.)

by Anonymousreply 22October 27, 2019 8:43 PM

She has her moments, but overall she’s like listening to an old relative kvetching, at some point you just stop listening and start playing with your phone.

by Anonymousreply 23October 28, 2019 12:30 AM

Does she still smoke like a chimney?

by Anonymousreply 24October 28, 2019 12:41 AM

R23 = ADHD

by Anonymousreply 25October 28, 2019 12:53 AM

Purple will be a good color for hair when brunette is a good color for flowers.

by Anonymousreply 26October 28, 2019 1:24 AM

When what?

by Anonymousreply 27October 28, 2019 1:47 AM

She's from my hometown!

by Anonymousreply 28October 28, 2019 1:57 AM

She’s a goddamned Greek

by Anonymousreply 29October 28, 2019 2:45 AM

In a perfect world, Fran would be the mayor of NYC.

by Anonymousreply 30October 28, 2019 2:47 AM

[R22] I own a paperback edition of "Make Way for Lucia" and a corresponding HB edition. I won't allow even myself to crack the spine of the HB, I force myself to make do with the PB. I don't know how many times I've read the series, but after a fairly slow start in "Queen Lucia," now that Lucia and Peppino are leaving for London tomorrow (in the storyline), I'm hooked again. It's been long enough (2006 is my best guess) since I read the whole series, so it's discoveries anew!

I had memories of Olga, of course. But forgot how she positively dominated "Queen Lucia." And the whole evening yesterday I spent in Georgie's Oxford cut trousers! It's a rare treat indeed to know I have hours and days ahead booked into anything non essential - LUCIA! My friends may say, "How tar-some of him, to inveigh so much energy to fiction." If they only knew that I relegated THEM to fiction! Poof! Princess Poffofski! Poof again to the brandy swilling guru (the true idol of Mr. Quantock).

Before I get too fucking precious, I think another magic mushroom caramel and a half mg. of Xanax, a pot of Trader Joe's Irish Breakfast tea. And I shall ride along with Lucia, Peppino, and everybody else, on the 1100 Express to London. [DL'ers who haven't read these books will understand nothing of this, but Mr. Georgie will. Not Olga Georgie, but Risholme Georgie. I gotta fly before I really sound like some nurshing home queen mainlining Prednisone)] Au reservoir [R22]! Piggy and Goosie say hello from the stocks on the green!

by Anonymousreply 31October 28, 2019 3:30 AM

Oh my goodness, R31, what a great post that was!

I know you'll have a wonderful time rereading the series. In fact, I might do that, myself, one day soon. It's been a while.

Au reservoir.

by Anonymousreply 32October 28, 2019 5:00 AM

I saw her a few months ago in the West Village. I kvelled and shvitz with excitement, no lie!

by Anonymousreply 33October 28, 2019 5:04 AM

I loved her short clip on the departed bookstores of old New York, I wish she would do a documentary on the subject.

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by Anonymousreply 34October 28, 2019 5:06 AM

delightful

by Anonymousreply 35October 28, 2019 2:09 PM

Drunk

by Anonymousreply 36October 28, 2019 4:03 PM

I have a bunch of Lucia books downloaded due to DL’s recommendations. Maybe I’ll start one today.

by Anonymousreply 37October 28, 2019 4:38 PM

She needs

Earrings and

Caftans

by Anonymousreply 38October 28, 2019 4:54 PM

I love Fran. I painted my house recently and to keep me company I went on a Fran binge watching various clips and listening to podcasts as I worked.

It struck me that in recent interviews she refers to herself as gay. Although I can still sense some reticence in her voice when she says it. On the other hand she is in her element discussing the gay men she knew. Am I remembering correctly that she hadn’t addressed her sexuality before? Being Irish I only became aware of her about 10 years ago and I remember googling and the consensus was she was clearly a lesbian but hadn’t ever come out.

Has she ever had a partner? I mean have NYers ever seen her out and about with anyone? She alludes to picking up girls in bars when she first got to NY and to driving and drugging a lot before becoming sober at 19. Did she give up sex then too? Lol

She’s a fascinating character. Entertaining but reserved. Social but solitary. Public but private.

I’m sure when she passes they will publish all the half written novels in some sort of collection.

by Anonymousreply 39October 31, 2019 7:14 AM

She is a fetishist of the past but she does keep up and say witty things about now.

by Anonymousreply 40October 31, 2019 7:39 AM

How does she live, do speaking engagements keep her in that lifestyle? She was quite attractive when she was young. I was curious what her views on MeToo would be and it turns out she is very supportive of the women and the movement and she claims everyone knew about all those guys anyway. She says the rape and violence was likely not known but their reputation for lechery and trading roles for sex was an open secret. In my circle, older lesbians have been 50/50. Some are not supportive and are a bit victim blamey. Seeing pictures of young Fran I think it’s likely she had some creepy experiences herself that have shaped her views. It’s a pity she doesn’t talk more about lesbian life in NY in the 70s. She has lots to say about gay men.

She’s also of the opinion that we’re all whores who wouldn’t be faithful in marriage and she can’t imagine why we’d want marriage. I know Bette Milder was cancelled by some gays for saying something similar but I accept that Fran is a product of her time and find the humor in her turns of phrase. Still, I’m greedy and wish she’d share more about lesbian life which is less documented and glamorized.

by Anonymousreply 41October 31, 2019 8:16 AM

How does she support herself? I’m going to guess she never picks up the check.

by Anonymousreply 42October 31, 2019 8:57 AM

I think the millennial version of Fran is embodied in Sarah Vowell.

by Anonymousreply 43October 31, 2019 9:14 AM

I ran into her on the street in NYC recently and fangirl’d, “Are you Fran Leibovitz?!” She looked at me like you would a mugger and said “Yes.” Told her I loved her work, nice to meet her and I let her continue her day. She was unfazed. I was starstruck, she was exactly as you’d expect and it was a pleasure to meet her in person.

by Anonymousreply 44October 31, 2019 9:27 AM

One of the most interesting things I've ever heard Fran say is how devastating AIDS was to our culture. Not just the artists who were lost, but the audience of discerning gay men were lost as well. It created a "cultural vacuum" so to speak, and things have never recovered. It starts at 19:25.

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by Anonymousreply 45October 31, 2019 3:12 PM

"It struck me that in recent interviews she refers to herself as gay. Although I can still sense some reticence in her voice when she says it."

When Outweek was outing celebrities in the early 1990s, I remember they reported that Fran was disgusted and refused to answer when asked if she was gay. Like no one could tell, ha ha.

A long time ago a friend of mine who lives near her told me she would see Fran with her then girlfriend frequently. Fran was an very attractive Jewish girl when she was young, as in this video.

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by Anonymousreply 46October 31, 2019 4:59 PM

[quote] Before I get too fucking precious,

Before?

by Anonymousreply 47October 31, 2019 5:12 PM

She was attractive. She had that Jewish intellectual upper class hot under the denim and corduroy lesbo chic thing going on.

by Anonymousreply 48October 31, 2019 5:15 PM

R45 it’s true. Think about how music, movies & TV got progressively trashier after the mid 80s, by the time Britney Spears arrived it was all gone and we were ready for rap music about getting “crunk & fucking dripping wet pussy.”

by Anonymousreply 49October 31, 2019 6:35 PM

Fran lived in New York when it had real culture, not what passes for it now. Pre-Times Square Disnification. Pre-AIDS killing off half of everyone with a cultural memory.

People say a lot of things about New York now. It's still a wonderful city it just used to be more interesting and alive.

by Anonymousreply 50October 31, 2019 6:40 PM

Her view that men over a certain age shouldn't wear shorts is ridiculous. She may be able to handle those suits in all weather that she wears but goddamn, it gets hot in the summer.

by Anonymousreply 51October 31, 2019 6:46 PM

Dear R51, she's KIDDING

by Anonymousreply 52October 31, 2019 7:37 PM

r49 that can also explain why we have men like Andy Cohen and Ryan Seacrest today.

by Anonymousreply 53October 31, 2019 8:05 PM

Men never wore shorts when she was young though did they? I’ve seen pictures from DisneyLand in the 50s/60s and the men are all in suits. She says it of course for humorous effect but I’m sure it was a bit strange when shorts became a thing for people of her generation.

by Anonymousreply 54October 31, 2019 10:01 PM

She was talking about SENIOR men in their running shorts, R54. Odd how people don't comprehend what they're listening to.

by Anonymousreply 55October 31, 2019 10:08 PM

Yet we're supposed to endure and be titillated by women's bare feet , legs, arms, backs and boobs on all occasions.

by Anonymousreply 56October 31, 2019 11:46 PM

She and Dolly got it on! Allegedly.

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by Anonymousreply 57November 1, 2019 12:14 AM

I was wondering what Fran’s type would be. Dolly huh?

by Anonymousreply 58November 1, 2019 12:20 AM

I like this British public access interview.

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by Anonymousreply 59November 1, 2019 4:41 AM

I like Fran, but she's affected.

by Anonymousreply 60November 1, 2019 7:00 AM

R49 "music about crunk and.. pussy ". American sexual mores have got to be the most bizarre and inconsistent in the western world. The average American will cringe dramatically at the sight of a man in a speedo or a graphic sex scene in a film. And don't forget the mass meltdown over Janet's rogue nipple. We treat politicians extramarital affairs as somehow a matter of grave public concern. But for years music has been dominated by the most pornographic and crude lyrics and imagery. The songs of the mid 2000s in particular had lyrics that made me feel like a scandalized maiden aunt. And worse, the quality is utterly atrocious.

by Anonymousreply 61November 1, 2019 7:28 AM

This woman is better on the page than doing stand-up. Some of her stuff on the page has great aphorisms and imagination.

But in real life her manner is pushy, aggressive (ending each sentence with the word Right) and the sound of her cancerous voice makes me think she'll be dead in a few years.

by Anonymousreply 62November 1, 2019 7:39 AM

I never thought I'd say this, but there's a person who should have a podcast. The format can be a random word lobbed at her as a prompt and she's off and running.

by Anonymousreply 63November 1, 2019 11:55 AM

I hope that’s what the upcoming Netflix show is. Fran doing a video podcast. I too would love a weekly or monthly Fran podcast though.

by Anonymousreply 64November 1, 2019 1:54 PM

Ohhh I love Fran! I'd trade running into her for running into Bob Dylan in Chelsea, which I did.

by Anonymousreply 65November 1, 2019 2:28 PM

Looking forward to Fran's Netflix show.

by Anonymousreply 66November 1, 2019 2:29 PM

"And don't forget the mass meltdown over Janet's rogue nipple"

Not really. It was about Janet pulling a stunt not in the script, not expected by the NFL or CBS. Janet was signed to do a biopic, and her stupidity at the 2004 Superbowl nixed it. A nearly career ending move.

by Anonymousreply 67November 1, 2019 3:21 PM

R62 Kinna Hora.

by Anonymousreply 68November 1, 2019 3:51 PM

She's hardly perfect, but she is certainly one of the wittiest and trenchant commentators of modern life and politics.

by Anonymousreply 69November 1, 2019 4:54 PM

She's probably alternately annoying and delightful in real life. I love her and yet all that "I said it first" and "I was right" would drive me nuts.

I hope I get to meet her. She's the only one on my dream list I haven't met yet.

by Anonymousreply 70November 1, 2019 4:54 PM

Fran is one of the very last of the unrepentant, unapologetic smokers. She loves to smoke and she doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks. She's a (pardon the pun) dying breed.

by Anonymousreply 71November 1, 2019 4:57 PM

[R71] Yes, even though I don’t smoke anymore, I Like that there still are smokers.

by Anonymousreply 72November 1, 2019 5:48 PM

They're the people version of rotary phones.

by Anonymousreply 73November 1, 2019 5:53 PM

Fran probably spends a lot of time on the street smoking since she can't do it inside...you could meet her there, R70.

by Anonymousreply 74November 1, 2019 6:20 PM

Sean Penn, John Mellencamp, Liza Minnelli and Dionne Warwick are the only remaining "I don't give a fuck" celeb smokers I can think of offhand. All the other celebs who smoke try their best to hide it.

by Anonymousreply 75November 1, 2019 7:41 PM

Patricia Arquette has been a chain smoker for years, and is chatty with other smokers hanging outside of buildings.

by Anonymousreply 76November 1, 2019 9:24 PM

Johnny Galecki also smokes habitually

by Anonymousreply 77November 1, 2019 9:25 PM

There are 1990s interviews where Fran looks almost cute (for a woman).

But Smoking Fran looks and sounds terrible now. Whenever she speaks I can hear the cancer in the body.

by Anonymousreply 78November 1, 2019 9:45 PM

You sound HIGHLY neurotic.

by Anonymousreply 79November 4, 2019 1:16 PM

R478 is just like one of those cancer sniffing dogs

by Anonymousreply 80November 4, 2019 1:53 PM

She objected to the idea that it was a requirement for all gay people to announce it. If you really want to hear her say the words, watch the last few minutes of below (but the whole thing is good).

I think she looks pretty good for being nearly 70 and a dedicated smoker all her life. Her justification for why smoking in public places should be allowed is ridiculous, but on nearly everything else I agree with her. And she is a true wit. Most people don't understand what wit sounds like. It sounds like Fran Lebowitz.

She just bought a $3.1 million dollar apartment. You can Google it; people have talked about it already on DL. I think her touring and speaking is highly lucrative. I also don't get any impression she's a tightwad and ungenerous, either.

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by Anonymousreply 81November 4, 2019 1:53 PM

She talked about going to Brooks Brothers and buying a robe and pajamas and slippers for her friend, the gay photographer Peter Hujar, who was dying in the hospital. That is not the act of someone who's an ungenerous tightwad.

by Anonymousreply 82November 4, 2019 1:55 PM

She is also not someone stuck in the past. She said NYC was better in the 1970s because it wasn't all about only being rich and because she was younger, and being younger is always better, anyway. But she also said nostalgia is the dead knell of the culture.

by Anonymousreply 83November 4, 2019 2:03 PM

Sue Mengers left Fran some money in her will.

by Anonymousreply 84November 4, 2019 2:03 PM

Fran made enough money from her first book to buy an apartment in Manhattan at super cheap late 1970s prices. Since then she has simply sold and traded up without having to layout any significant “extra” money for her apartments.

Based on the fees listed by her speaking agency I’d guess she brings in close to $400k a year.

Also, Fran was and still is very loved by her super rich friends like David Geffen, Calvin Klein, Barry Diller, and the slightly less rich but still loaded types like Ian Schrager. It wouldn't be all that surprising if some of them have helped her financially at times or at the very least given her excellent investing advice, let her in on advance stock deals, etc..

Plus she has long been a sought after guest for dinners and parties where of course somebody else is picking up the check. So she probably doesn’t really have to spend much of what she earns from her speaking engagements. And that leaves more than enough to cover her Marlboro Lights habit. LOL

by Anonymousreply 85November 4, 2019 2:21 PM

Cigarettes are about $15 a pack in NYC now, so Fran needs those speaking fees!

by Anonymousreply 86November 4, 2019 3:29 PM

Good one, R86. But you must know that celebrities get all their drugs for free.

by Anonymousreply 87November 4, 2019 3:32 PM

Thanks for the link R81 -- Fran's great.

by Anonymousreply 88November 4, 2019 3:52 PM

I wonder if Woody Allen is jealous of Fran...do they know each other? He may avoid her.

by Anonymousreply 89November 4, 2019 4:18 PM

Why would Allen be jealous of her? They're not even in the same field or really share the same style of humor.

by Anonymousreply 90November 4, 2019 5:19 PM

She's a humorist and a New Yorker, R90.

by Anonymousreply 91November 4, 2019 6:24 PM

I wonder if Toni Morrison left Fran any money. In publishing, rumor had it they were a couple.

by Anonymousreply 92November 4, 2019 6:26 PM

[quote] I wonder if Woody Allen is jealous of Fran.

Why would he be? As much as DLers love her, she will not be remembered after she dies because she did not write much at all.

by Anonymousreply 93November 4, 2019 6:28 PM

Maybe Fran got better chicks than Woody.

Fran and Toni

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by Anonymousreply 94November 4, 2019 7:02 PM

R89, You seem too stupid to like Fran or Woody.

by Anonymousreply 95November 4, 2019 9:21 PM

Couldn't Fran at least get those coats fitted? Unless shlub IS the look she's after.

by Anonymousreply 96November 5, 2019 1:32 PM

She's so vain about her fashion sense, meanwhile she wears stuff that doesn't fit and what the fuck with the rolled jeans?

by Anonymousreply 97November 5, 2019 2:34 PM

Why do you say she's vain about her fashion sense? She just knows what she likes to wear and she sticks to it. It's her signature look. I agree her suit jackets sometimes look big in the shoulders, though.

by Anonymousreply 98November 5, 2019 2:40 PM

She mentions her sense of style. She's done so often.

by Anonymousreply 99November 5, 2019 3:03 PM

She used to dress like a college student - jeans, pullover sweater, loafers. Now she dresses like a college professor - ill-fitting jacket and jeans, messy everything else. At least that's what college professors looked like in her (and my) day.

by Anonymousreply 100November 5, 2019 3:05 PM

To have a sense of style and refer to it does not make you vain per se.

by Anonymousreply 101November 5, 2019 3:13 PM

The oversized jacket was very much a thing of the late 70s, so was the rolled up jeans - but it was a fashion in places like New York & London, for boys and gurls. I used to wear that style. We also used to turn up the cuffs of our jackets if the sleeves were too long...or even if they weren't too long. A lot of us used to buy these jackets in second hand clothes shops. '60s, with very narrow lapels. All that turning up meant you didn't need to bother getting them altered. This then morphed into the big jackets with broad padded shoulders in the 80s style. I remember some people would even pad the shoulders of their sweaters.

& she's clearly stuck in that era, refers to it a lot...it was when she had her success as a writer.

by Anonymousreply 102November 5, 2019 3:29 PM

In the Candy Darling documentary, Fran wonders why a man would want to be a woman since being born a man is advantageous.

by Anonymousreply 103November 5, 2019 5:44 PM

"Keep your winning hand," she said.

by Anonymousreply 104November 5, 2019 7:15 PM

Her recent museum exhibitions have sucked. One was filled with family photographs worse than those my father had taken. Not all that interested in what she has to say these days.

by Anonymousreply 105November 5, 2019 8:55 PM

r105 I think you mean Annie Leibovitz.

by Anonymousreply 106November 5, 2019 9:08 PM

Hahahaha!

by Anonymousreply 107November 5, 2019 9:09 PM

Until a few years ago, I thought Fran was the famous photographer.

by Anonymousreply 108November 6, 2019 12:13 AM

Maybe Fran will be one of those smokers who makes it to 90. Sometimes I think about starting up smoking again.

by Anonymousreply 109November 6, 2019 2:01 AM

r109 that does happen occasionally. One of my great-grandmothers smoked unfiltered Pall Malls like a chimney and made it to 91.

by Anonymousreply 110November 6, 2019 2:30 AM

Is that a new euphemistic phrase, R1?

by Anonymousreply 111November 6, 2019 2:34 AM

R110 It's anecdotes like that that tempt me back to cigarettes, though it would probably be unwise. There do seem to be a certain percentage of people who just have very strong constitutions and or immune systems. They seem to be slightly more common among the much older generation. It's those born between the late 50s and early 60s who seem to be dropping like flies.

by Anonymousreply 112November 6, 2019 2:58 AM

r112 I have a theory that (ironically) the old-fashioned unfiltered cigarettes (Pall Mall, Lucky Strike etc.) weren't as deadly as modern cigarettes. The old-timey ones had less chemicals and additives in them. Modern cigarettes are juiced up with all kinds of shit.

Yes, of course the old unfiltered brands certainly caused diseases, but just anecdotally speaking, I think the modern, chemical-laden filtered brands have more disease-causing shit in them.

by Anonymousreply 113November 6, 2019 3:08 AM

R113 Interesting theory. That could well play a part.

by Anonymousreply 114November 6, 2019 3:14 AM

Fran is a national treasure.

Opinions to the contrary are stupid.

by Anonymousreply 115November 6, 2019 3:16 AM

Emphysema is an awful way to die. It’s like you’re drowning in air.

by Anonymousreply 116November 6, 2019 3:32 AM

[quote][R112] I have a theory that (ironically) the old-fashioned unfiltered cigarettes (Pall Mall, Lucky Strike etc.) weren't as deadly as modern cigarettes. The old-timey ones had less chemicals and additives in them. Modern cigarettes are juiced up with all kinds of shit.

This is absolutely true. I'm very sensitive to chemicals and when I went to America I smoked the cigarettes and felt like I was going to die. It was a very strong reaction. It was even the case when I bought the organic ones, whatever they're called with the red Indian on the front or whatever they were. It ruined my trip because I was addicted.

by Anonymousreply 117November 6, 2019 4:41 AM

R115 Fran is indeed a treasure. I saw her a few times and she had us convulsing. What a charmer.

by Anonymousreply 118November 6, 2019 7:46 PM

I thought about Bloomberg's candidacy; but R17 post made me come back to my senses.

by Anonymousreply 119December 3, 2019 12:35 PM

Fran for President!

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by Anonymousreply 120December 3, 2019 1:23 PM

She wouldn't want that gig. Mayor of NY, though, she's expressed interest in. And a judgeship.

by Anonymousreply 121December 3, 2019 7:34 PM

Her income from writing was never sufficient to support her lifestyle in NYC. She and Malcolm Forbes, who was gay of course, were very close. He was generous to her during his lifetime and left her a substantial sum in his will.

by Anonymousreply 122December 3, 2019 7:44 PM

Dolly and Fran make an interesting couple.

by Anonymousreply 123December 3, 2019 8:02 PM

Please.

She’s positively deformed.

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by Anonymousreply 124December 3, 2019 8:34 PM

"She and Malcolm Forbes, who was gay of course, were very close."

So you're saying that he wasn't interested in lesbian Fran "that way"?

by Anonymousreply 125December 3, 2019 9:03 PM

I believe Sue Mengers also left Fran money in her will.

by Anonymousreply 126December 3, 2019 9:04 PM

I'm sure Toni Morrison left Fran money in her will.

by Anonymousreply 127December 3, 2019 9:06 PM

I will probably leave Fran something in my will, as well.

by Anonymousreply 128December 4, 2019 4:35 AM

She is flabbergasted by the #MeToo movement. “It never occurred to me this would ever change. Being a woman was exactly the same from Eve ‘til eight months ago. So it never occurred to me that it would change. Ever. I can tell you that it’s probably one of the most surprising things in my life. The first forty guys who got caught — I knew almost all of them."

She’d known Harvey Weinstein, known he was a jerk, but had never heard that he’d raped women. “I believe it. I believe every single woman. Prove to me she’s lying. I believe it because I was a girl. And men, even the best men, the most well intended men, the smartest men, by which I mean the men I have carefully selected to be my friends?” She said. “They do not understand it. Men cannot understand this. I always say, ‘Just agree with me. That’s all.

Because you don’t understand this. You do not understand what people are talking about.’”

It’s not about sex, she said. “That’s not what we’re talking about. The easiest way to explain this to men in a blunt way that just about encompasses everything is: look at it this way, it’s about work. How’s that? Because when I was young, most of my friends who were girls who had to work were waitresses. And I would never be a waitress. I cleaned houses, I drove a cab, and they would say, ‘Why do you do these jobs? House cleaning’s a horrible job. Waiting tables is not a great job, but it’s a nicer job than cleaning houses. You make about the same money, maybe make a little more, being a waitress.’ And I would say, ‘No — manager.’ Because you couldn’t get a shift as a waitress without sleeping with the manager.

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by Anonymousreply 129December 4, 2019 5:24 AM

So what if the accused guys — many of whom she knows — lost their jobs? “It showed that most of these guys are totally replaceable. They’re gone, and so what? There’s still movies, there’s still television shows, there’s still comedians.”

by Anonymousreply 130December 4, 2019 5:26 AM

I want Fran's take on everything. Can we just have a weekly Q&A with Fran, and submit questions in advance (so she can weed out the "This is more a comment than a question, actually" ones)? I love the way she describes things. I love her. And when I meet someone who also loves her, I feel an affinity. You in this thread, you get me.

I hope she lives a long time.

by Anonymousreply 131December 4, 2019 2:37 PM

Fran is going to have a Netflix series, produced by Martin Scorcese. Can't wait to see that.

by Anonymousreply 132December 4, 2019 2:50 PM

She once called Viagra "That bane of the third wife." She's fantastic.

by Anonymousreply 133December 4, 2019 4:53 PM

Fran is alive and well in the time of Covid-19.

[quote]How have you been spending your time in self-isolation?

[quote]It depends how much you count the time you spend sulking. Let me put it this way: when they compile a list of the heroes of this era, I will not be on it. Mostly I’ve been reading. Also, taking phone calls from people who for the last ten years have told me they hate to talk on the phone. And I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about how to think about this, because it is a very startling thing to be my age—I’m sixty-nine—and to have something happen that doesn’t remind you of anything else.

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by Anonymousreply 134April 20, 2020 10:26 AM

R122 and others, how does anyone know what was left to someone in a will? Did the family make a public announcement? Serious question.

by Anonymousreply 135April 20, 2020 1:22 PM

My favorite vegetable is steak.

- F. Lebowitz

by Anonymousreply 136April 21, 2020 1:20 AM
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