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Did Johnnie Ray Get Dorothy Kilgallen Hooked On Booze And Pills?

He looks the type to do as such.

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by Anonymousreply 33October 21, 2019 1:42 PM

Wasn't Johnny Ray a queer?

by Anonymousreply 1October 19, 2019 4:32 PM

Johnnie Ray was the best man at Judy Garland's wedding to Mickey Deans in 1969. So, yes, gay.

by Anonymousreply 2October 19, 2019 4:39 PM

Ray was arrested twice, in separate incidents years apart, for soliciting an undercover police officer.

by Anonymousreply 3October 19, 2019 4:44 PM

Straight enough to post on DL then.

by Anonymousreply 4October 19, 2019 4:51 PM

He was the kind of trashy bad boy some women found thrilling--like the Duchess of Windsor and Jimmy Donahue. Especially women married to men of doubtful or wavering sexuality.....They wanted to have some FUN, degrading as it often proved to be.

by Anonymousreply 5October 19, 2019 4:57 PM
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by Anonymousreply 6October 19, 2019 5:41 PM
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by Anonymousreply 7October 19, 2019 5:43 PM

He was so gay that at the end of "There's No Business Like Show Business" they turn him into a priest.

by Anonymousreply 8October 19, 2019 5:49 PM

Here he is with Dorothy, they're first meeting. Lovers or booze buds?

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by Anonymousreply 9October 19, 2019 7:18 PM

r3

by Anonymousreply 10October 19, 2019 7:19 PM

Poor old Johnny Ray | Sounded sad upon the radio. | But he moved a million hearts in mono. | Our mothers cried, sang along, who'd blame them

by Anonymousreply 11October 19, 2019 10:58 PM

She was an adult, she chose booze and pills.

by Anonymousreply 12October 19, 2019 11:03 PM

From "New Faces of 1952," Robert Clary, later of "Hogan's Heroes," parodies the overwrought singing style of Johnnie Ray with "It's Raining Memories," starting around 1:30. Clary is still around at 93.

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by Anonymousreply 13October 19, 2019 11:41 PM

All of this seems like a 100 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 14October 20, 2019 12:17 AM

Here's Johnnie...……...singing distraught as usual.

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by Anonymousreply 15October 20, 2019 12:33 AM

[quote]All of this seems like a 100 years ago.

Pretty damn close, R14.

by Anonymousreply 16October 20, 2019 12:34 AM

R14 Not really. He died in 1990 at age 63.

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by Anonymousreply 17October 20, 2019 12:36 AM

Johnnie when very young.

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by Anonymousreply 18October 20, 2019 12:38 AM

[quote]He was so gay that at the end of "There's No Business Like Show Business" they turn him into a priest.

Watching that movie today, it's difficult not to read his character as gay, and not simply because Johnnie Ray is playing him. In explaining why he decided to become a priest, Ray's character talks about always feeling "different" and never quite "fitting in."

by Anonymousreply 19October 20, 2019 12:46 AM

I meant the whole scene. The clothing, the music, what's my line. It's rapidly disconnecting from present day culture.

by Anonymousreply 20October 20, 2019 1:20 AM

Johnnie Ray seems so sweet and endearing on that show. He was so handsome and vulnerable.

by Anonymousreply 21October 20, 2019 1:23 AM

[quote]I meant the whole scene. The clothing, the music, what's my line. It's rapidly disconnecting from present day culture.

True. But present day culture sort of sucks.

by Anonymousreply 22October 20, 2019 1:32 AM

[quote]She was an adult, she chose booze and pills.

Dumb broad shoulda known better.

by Anonymousreply 23October 20, 2019 1:33 AM

She was murdered because she knew too much.

by Anonymousreply 24October 20, 2019 1:41 AM

If his penis was like a day, let's just say there would be a midnight sun.

I'm pretty sure that's a bible quote.

by Anonymousreply 25October 20, 2019 2:22 AM

RE: There's No Business Like Show Business

Fox was expecting a profit of $2 million, but ran a loss of almost $950,000. It is also significant that Johnnie Ray never worked again for 20th Century Fox or appeared in another motion picture made by any major movie studio in the United States or another country,

by Anonymousreply 26October 20, 2019 6:56 AM

Johnnie was only "decent" looking from one tiny angle and that went away when he was 26..

by Anonymousreply 27October 20, 2019 2:36 PM

Johnnie Ray is one of the first negative memories i have of gays / reading about his arrests...not even knowing his music, circa late 60s... just equating homos with getting arrested.

by Anonymousreply 28October 20, 2019 2:47 PM

[quote]It is also significant that Johnnie Ray never worked again for 20th Century Fox or appeared in another motion picture made by any major movie studio in the United States or another country,

So I guess Ray was just as successful as Liberace was in his dramatic motion picture debut, "Sincerely Yours."

by Anonymousreply 29October 20, 2019 3:16 PM

[quote]Johnnie Ray is one of the first negative memories i have of gays / reading about his arrests...not even knowing his music, circa late 60s... just equating homos with getting arrested.

You're making too much of something that was really no big deal.

by Anonymousreply 30October 20, 2019 3:19 PM

R28, thank you for your enlightened post from the Fox News vault.

by Anonymousreply 31October 20, 2019 11:53 PM

I always wanted to eat Dorothy’s cunt.

by Anonymousreply 32October 21, 2019 12:45 AM

Strange that Arlene flirted with him but he left with Dorothy.

by Anonymousreply 33October 21, 2019 1:42 PM
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