Impeachment Could Mean Most Presidential Candidates Can’t Leave Washington, Or Talk.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

They question the witnesses, do they not? Is that all done by the Senate counsel rather than the Senators?

Also do the Supremes slow down? CJ Roberts will be presiding in the Senate trial.

r2 No, they don't get to question anyone.

[quote]House lawyers would serve the role of prosecutors, while White House lawyers would be defense counsel. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts would act as judge. Senators would serve as the jury.

I'm not American so I don't know, but can't they be represented by a deputy senator of sort?

Can a juror in a normal court be represented by a deputy? I'm also not an American, but I don't think that's the case here either, no. Besides, when a senator (or parliamentarians in other countries) can't vote on legislation or whatnot, they can't send a deputy to vote on their behalf either.

Does Trump get to talk while they're doing that? Because he can probably win the election for the Dems if they shut up and he talks on.

How terrible for them. Instead of flying around the country promoting themselves, they'll have to stay in Washington and DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS!

They've been missing Senate votes as it is...

r6 Don't think he'll testify in person, no.

To be fair to them, R7, that's what the US Presidential election system demands. At this point maybe we're thinking it's not such a great system.

That's the value of having surrogates on the campaign trail.

Enter AOC...

[quote] That’s a major problem for the six senators running to be the Democratic nominee for president — Cory Booker, Michael Bennet, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren.

Good!

That was my reaction as well, R11.

Perhaps Booker could stand up during the proceedings and perform his little kumbaya spiel, and the nation would be healed instantly. Or something.

That works for me!

Lmao how do you get Booker to stop talking about himself?

If this happens, not only is Trump on the road to impeachment, but these losers actually have to WORK.

I am much much unhappy about this...

Cory and I will be meeting in the ladies room.

[quote]Klobuchar says if the Senate holds the trial in January (if the House votes to impeach), her husband and others could campaign on her behalf in Iowa.

😂😂😂

Good luck with that, gurl...

[quote]Boo-fucking-hoo. —The Constitution of the United States of America

Oh, honey... who listens to you anymore?

Oh please. Like McConnell will let it go on that long. Dem candidates have nothing to worry about - it’ll be 10 days at the absolute most, if that.

We don't call it impeachment. Huh. No. We call it himpeachment. And yes, I was that hostage to that process. Because I was a prosecutor and a Senator and California's first female earth tone Attorney General so that's why I had to take that on. But make no mistake, I was that hostage.

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Anyone who thinks Donald Trump will testify at his impeachment trial is delusional. Hes a coward. He will pull every trick in the book to avoid doing so, while taking to twitter claiming he wants to testify, but the bad Dems are preventing it by creating a perjury trap.

No great loss, it's too early anyway. In the meantime maybe some of them will drop-off. There's more people onstage than in the audience.

[quote]Impeachment scheduling alert: Senate Intel Chairman Richard Burr says trial will last for "6 to 8 weeks." It will run for 6 days a week, from 12:30 to 6:30 p.m., a big chunk of time for senators also running for president hoping to be in IA, NH or anywhere but DC in Dec/Jan/Feb.

^^People are already crying out that those candidates who aren't senators shouldn't campaign at that time, and if they do, that should be disqualifying. And it makes me laugh, because how does that make any sense? Did Beto, Biden, Castro, and other candidates who are currently jobless put their campaigns on hold for those candidates who do have a job?

Honey, you knew exactly what you were signing up for when you agreed to run for president while serving as senator in Trump's presidency. There was a distinct possibility this scenario would happen, and now it looks like it will.

This rule should also apply to Biden as well, given that he is a former Vice President and that the issue revolves around him and his family.

Please welcome to the stage: PERJURY TRAPPE

Impeachment involves the House of Representatives. It acts as a grand jury, gathering evidence getting testimony from witnesses and experts,etc.and then voting to decide whether to charge the PResident. The Articles of Impeachment are the charges they will develop as a result of the hearings. None of this involves the Senate. The Senate only becomes involved after the House impeaches. The full House will vote on the articles of Impeachment presented by the Judiciary committee.If the House votes to impeach, a trial will be held in the Senate.

r27 Who exactly are you responding to with that primer on impeachment that we're all familiar with, I wonder?

I was responding to the title of the thread. I didn't read through it. So what if I'm repeating what you already know,Miss Thang.Some people might not.Not everyone who posts here is American.

There's nothing wrong with the title. The entire process is colloquially known as impeachment, both in the US and abroad, even if that isn't technically correct. "Trial" is too generic a term, after all.

Whatever. The point is the Presidential candidates who are Senators, Harris, Klobuchar, Booker, Warren, Sanders, Michael Bennet, are not presently affected by the Impeachment hearings.

Yang suggested today that the Democratic senators have already made up their minds anyway, so they might as well not attend the trial and campaign during that time.

[quote]I think Bernie, Cory, and the other senators should feel free to campaign during the impeachment trial if it comes to that. They know enough to know which way they would vote and can always get briefed on new findings.

Super problematic position, to say the least. Imagine if a juror in a regular trial did that?

R32, you have to remember that this impeachment is a political thing. It's not the same thing when you go to your courthouse. The rules are VERY different.

I know it's not the same thing but the optics are even more important because it's a political thing. The GOP would be screaming to high heaven if the Dem senators adopted Yang's position. Why bother with the trial then, if the Dem senators themselves treat is as just for show?

[quote]Once the House managers and Trump’s counsel begin presenting their cases, senators will find themselves in an unusual setting.

[quote]They’ve been told they must stay seated at their desks for the proceedings with only reading material related to the case and have been admonished to avoid even talking to neighboring senators. Their telephones and other electronic devices will be kept in special cubbies in the cloakrooms, and access to the Senate side of the Capitol will be unusually limited for both reporters and staff. The trial may go on for six days a week.

But... but... mah Twitter and mah Iowa....

It won't stop Bernie, he's all like

I does what I wan'

Senators have been sworn in, trial starts Tuesday. Which means presidential candidates who are senators now have 4 DAYS left to campaign.

Oh Pleae— the GOP will move to dismiss the charges on Tuesday and it will be over. Remember, it has to be over in time for Trump to gloat at the State of the Union address

Jesus Christ, SOTU is scheduled for the day after the Iowa caucuses? Just kill me.

This made me cackle.

Wait, we can't talk?? But we can chat with Hannity right? Oh Lawdy!

"No talking, on pain of imprisonment" - literal words said today in the Senate, I shit you not.

And this is a problem, WHY?

Frankly the Dems always blow their load too early.

Liz and Bernie took an oath to be impartial jurors?

All 100 of them took an oath, yes. I mean, some might have been absent due to illness or whatever, but all the senators currently running for president were there.

Warren's designated ass eater is already putting an asterisk on Iowa results in case Bernie or Warren don't win. 🙄

[quote]A question kind of hanging over a close Iowa result: How legitimate is it, with two front-runners trapped in DC? If Biden or Buttigieg edge past Warren or Sanders, isn’t there speculation that the senator could have won had he or she been able to campaign?

[quote]Because of impeachment trial & the other candidates elsewhere, Pete Buttigieg has Iowa completely to himself yesterday and today -- and they're banging out SEVEN town halls across 400 miles and 31 hours... that's not easy!

Fucking hell, he's gonna look a decade older next week. 😬

^^ NINE town halls. That guy made a mistake.

"Amy Klobuchar, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren"

Might be a nice break (for us).

Bernie can’t keep his fat old face shut for fifteen seconds, how’s he going to do it for a whole trial?

He looked twitchy as fuck on C-SPAN today. It's killing him that he can't campaign.

It must roast his ass to not have his way. Lol

[quote] R2: They question the witnesses, do they not? Is that all done by the Senate counsel rather than the Senators?

They might not even have witnesses!

In the Clinton trial, they gave written questions to the Chief Justice, who read them.

[quote] R4: I'm not American so I don't know, but can't they be represented by a deputy senator of sort?

The House has managers who prosecute. Trump has A defense team he chooses. No Senators do anything but act as judges/jury.

The Senators can speak outside of the sessions. They can even distribute copies of speeches they’ve made.

Ice storm in Iowa until tomorrow night - Biden, Warren, and Delaney had to cancel their events. Mother Nature doesn't give a shit about the fact that the senators only have three days left to campaign...

r56 I mean... was anyone disputing that? The article talks about how they need to be silent during the filmed proceedings, because some people unfamiliar with the matter speculated that it might look like the impeachment hearings where MOCs had viral moments left and right every day. That won't happen here.

Klobuchar said her husband and daughter would be out in full force campaigning for her in NH

No offence to Amy, but I've got no clue what her husband or her daughter look like, and I doubt the voters will be energised enough to turn up in decent numbers to those events. She really is screwed by having no big-name surrogates on the trail.

So here's the surrogates plan...

[bold]Sanders:[/bold] Reps. AOC (NY), Tlaib (MI), Omar (MN)

[bold]Warren:[/bold] Reps. Pressley (MA), Porter (CA), Haaland (NM)

[bold]Klobuchar:[/bold] Gov. Walz (MN), husband, daughter, plus tele-town halls

And here are the surrogates stumping for other candidates not caught up in the senate trial...

[bold]Biden:[/bold] Rep. Finkenauer (IA), Fmr. Gov. Vilsack (IA), John Kerry

[bold]Buttigieg:[/bold] Reps. Brown (MD), Loebsack (IA), Kuster (NH)

[bold]Yang:[/bold] Dave Chappelle

Impressed by any of that, bitches?

Yang's already fucking it up...

[quote]Andrew Yang is here at the Giving Tree Theatre in Marion. A staffer intro’ed Yang & greeted the crowd as “Cedar Rapids!” Some people in the crowd yelled ‘it’s Marion!’ This is a totally different town. Yang comes out & does the same thing, greeting “Cedar Rapids!”

Eek! 😬

Not impressed at all, R60. For one thing, Pete Buttigieg isn’t a member of the US Senate, so he doesn’t need a “surrogate”.

No need to be anal, you know what I meant - they'll be campaigning with him.