Stars Gossip About Other Stars

I don't know her.

Mariah Carey about J-Lo

Elvis wasn't really anything but autosexual. He loved himself, and he loved cars.

—Keenan Wynn on Elvis Presley

With Ryan O'Neal, what you see is all you get. That's why he won't be a star by 1985.

—Tom Tryon

Larry Olivier is not an actor. He's a chameleon. He wears all that makeup and all those costumes and just disguises himself. Half the time you don't even know it's him.

—Bette Davis

Mr. Marlon Brando got, for an aggregate of twenty minutes on the screen in Superman and Apocalypse Now, more money than Clark Gable got for twenty years at M-G-M.

—Billy Wilder

Michael Caine has lost any prestige that his Britishness conferred on him. He is the McDonald's of moviemaking. Now he goes for sheer quantity. He must figure there's safety in numbers—if you make eight or nine movies a year, one of them is bound to be a hit.

—Judith Anderson

Rod Steiger's the worst actor that ever lived. The very name makes me throw up. He's so terrible. He's one of the world's worst hams. A real jambonl

—Truman Capote

Kevin Costner is like Oakland: there is no there there.

—Marcello Mastroianni

Paul Newman's a great-looking ice cube.

—Sal Mineo

I'm not a Richard Gere-type actor. I won't, to bring in a certain audience, jump in the sack and display nudity. If you want to see that, you can go buy a pornographic movie.

—Chuck Norris

Errol Flynn says he doesn't worry about money as long as he can reconcile his net income with his gross habits.

—Sheilah Graham

I dated Warren Beatty. It was more publicity than I bargained for. But not so fulfilling. He is like a masculine dumb blonde.

—Anouk Aimee

Cary Grant had charm, and that was about all. He was cold, paranoid, and cheap. You know who else was very cheap? Gable. They must have had wretchedly poor childhoods. Now, these two were not by any means close friends, but every December twenty-sixth, they called each other on the telephone and arranged to meet that same week so they could exchange any monogrammed gifts they had received which they didn't want, because they shared the same initials!

—Capucine

Woody Allen's universe, his movies, it's a closed little world. His movies don't contain any people of color or gays, and he is more interested in Lolitas than independent, exciting women. I think he has not progressed much beyond the 1960s.

—Catherine Deneuve

Woody Allen...is evil.

—Maureen O'Sullivan (Mia Farrow's mother)

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a farce. In a more sophisticated culture, he would have remained a body cultist. In America, he is not only a movie star, he has political power. The son of a Nazi, yet what the father did should be separate from what the son does. But this Schwarzenegger, he invites the ex-Nazi president of Austria [Kurt Waldheim] to his wedding with a girl who is of the Kennedy family, a family of Democrats! He has no shame and no sense of what is appropriate or decent

—Yves Montand

George Jessel was this big hypocrite. On the one hand, he pretended to uphold America's great institutions and morals, and on the other, he had probably the most renowned and extensive collection of pornography in Hollywood. Still and all, I guess pornography is a great American institution.

—Lee Marvin

Merle Oberon went Hollywood before she went to Hollywood. She would do anything and everything to become a star. That included passing off her own mother, who was from India, as her maid. That's when Merle was in England, marrying her way up.

Then she went to Hollywood and shed her Jewish husband and married a cameraman so she could look beautiful via an interested expert, because her half-Indian complexion caused her great difficulties on-screen. Of course by the time she arrived in Hollywood, her mother had died and been buried in an unmarked grave, part of Merle's hidden, secret past.

—James Mason

John Gielgud is the biggest gossip I know, and I know several. He's a fabulous talent, has a magnificent voice, and he's the first to admit that he is selfish and egocentric. How refreshing!

—Ralph Richardson

Kevin Costner has personality-minus.

—Madonna

Hollywood is all facade. Actresses like Jeanette MacDonald and Grace Kelly pretended they were madonnas but were really sluts. And now you have a slut named Madonna! I'm not putting her down, though. Most of the men in Hollywood are sluts, too.

—John Cassavetes

Ali MacGraw is proof that a great model is not necessarily a great, or even an average, actress.

—Peter Sellers

I did not give Lee Majors his start in acting. You can't pin that one on me. Technically, he hasn't started acting yet. He had a pretty face, then he got a pretty wife [Farrah Fawcett], now he has a pretty career.

—Rock Hudson

Bruce Lee was an egomaniac. He thought it was terrible that he had to be just a movie star when what he really wanted to be was a dictator. I'm not kidding. He wanted to rule China or Taiwan or somewhere!

—Lee Marvin

Natalie is sweet, though she's a born exhibitionist. She grew up in the business, from a child star. But she's never had the dramatic presence that Elizabeth Taylor, also a former child star, has. Natalie cannot do drama very well. She knows and accepts this...and when Harvard's Hasty Pudding Club named her the worst actress of the year, she was so excited by all the publicity, and all she could think of was, what was she going to wear?

—Jeffrey Hunter

Cary Grant didn't give a damn about anyone but himself. That man wouldn't stick his neck out for anyone. Myrna Loy and I tried to get him to join the stars who were speaking out against the political witchhunts. He refused to say anything or sign anything, didn't even wish us good luck....Another time, a friend of mine was in a five-and-dime in Los Angeles, waiting in a long line. Grant came in, picked up some items, looked at the line, mumbled, then asked out loud if he couldn't move to the head of the line, because he was "in a hurry." Naturally, they let him go to the head of the line. Who's going to refuse Cary Grant? People idolize without knowing who or what they're worshiping.

—Melvyn Douglas

It's so silly, this martyrdom of St. Frances Farmer. Everyone states that she was ruined by the movie business, but she just wasn't cut out for it. She came to Hollywood knowing the rules but chose to flout them. She was self-destructive, but because she fought her battles in Hollywood, she got more publicity, and because she was beautiful, they've canonized her. She was not bad, but neither was she an innocent victim. Nobody in Hollywood is innocent!

—Cary Grant

They say that sex symbols die young or they are the products of miserable childhoods or they're purportedly frigid. Who really knows? All I know is that the two most self-destructive girls in Hollywood were beautiful blondes—Frances Farmer and Marilyn Monroe. The nonblondes do seem to be better survivors....

—Richard Burton

Those movie goddesses like Garbo and Crawford, they probably never had children because it might ruin their figures....Crawford wanted it both ways. She wanted the publicity. So she adopted. Someone like that, you figure she does everything for publicity. Her whole life is a false front. Or at least a well-padded one.

—Oscar Levant

I loved William Holden, but I could not have knowingly married an alcoholic.

—Audrey Hepburn

John Wayne and his drinking buddy Ward Bond went around wrecking careers with their gung-ho willingness to blacklist anyone who politically disagreed with them during the 1950s.

—Melvyn Douglas

"Who does that dame think she is?" - Nancy Reagan on Raisa Gorbachev.

The way I heard it, when Pearl Harbor was attacked, Joan Crawford was on the set, in her chair, knitting. Someone rushed over to the set and yelled, "The Japanese have destroyed Pearl Harbor!" Joan looked up and said, "Oh, dear. Who was she?"

—Mary Astor

Woody Allen didn't win the Academy Award just because of Annie Hall. He won it because he finally had a hit.

—George Burns

Peter Finch was one of Britain's best actors. He'd won awards everywhere, from Moscow to London and Sydney. But not in Hollywood. They didn't give him an award [an Oscar, for Network] until he'd died!

—Peter Sellers

James Corden? Cunt!

- Talulah Bankhead

British actors are overrated. Ben Kingsley wins the Academy Award, and Gandhi is a good movie, but Kingsley got the part due to his resemblance to Gandhi. Because if you are going to hand these things out for resemblance or impersonation, then you have to give one to Faye Dunaway [in Mommie Dearest] as Joan Crawford....

—Yul Brynner

How did Sally Field win two Oscars? I can name brilliant actresses who have never won one! Poor Henry Fonda finally wins one but is too sick to accept in person, and Katharine Hepburn will soon have enough Oscars to use them as bowling pins. It is too lopsided.

—Simone Signoret

They call her Mama Mia. When we did Rosemary's Baby, she got pregnant by the devil. In real life, I think she's taken it too far. It's one thing to have a couple of kids, even three or four. But when most of the world's problems are caused by overpopulation, I have to shake my head over somebody who seems obsessed with kids as some sort of panacea for their personal problems or insecurities and keeps adding child after child to her tribe. I question what her psychology is and at what point she'll feel she has enough children....

—John Cassavetes

America never liked Josephine Baker. They didn't like that a N***o gal could go to France and there achieve a degree of stardom unavailable to her in this land....What really pissed the columnists, like Walter Winchell, was her adopting all those kids of all races. They accused her of publicity-mongering...and others didn't want her raising white kids, but above all, they resented that she'd left America. What, she was supposed to stay here and become a maid?

—Dorothy Dandridge

Frank Sinatra is a seriously split personality. Conflicted, that is. First a Democrat, then a Republican. First he loved JFK, then he hated him. He once filmed an appeal to Americans during the war [WWII], asking them not to hate Jews and others who were minorities, and in the same spot he urges Americans to go out and kill "Japs" and win the war. Then he does this movie [The Detective] where he's a cop but he's pro-gay—so already you know it's fiction—and next, Liz Taylor asks him to appear at the first big AIDS benefit, and he refuses 'cause he doesn't want to be associated with £/?#£....Inconsistency, thy name is Francis!

—James Coco

I liked Peter [Lawford], I felt sorry for him. He aged so quickly. He was no angel, but who is? I was shocked when I read that after he died, his own children, those half-Kennedy children, wouldn't pay a penny toward his funeral! No matter what kind of father he was, that is shocking. If my children ever pulled that on me, I would come back and haunt them! Of course, I've been a very good mother and am not likely to die as broke as poor Peter did.

—Bette Davis

I'm surprised none of the Kennedys have gone into show business. We have mediocre actors becoming politicians, but we never seem to have politicians turning their deceptive skills to the silver screen. I guess the only fictitious characters they like to portray are themselves.

—Truman Capote

Hollywood's dumbest blonde never even made a Hollywood picture. It is Brigitte Bardot. She is—she was—beautiful in an overripe way. But she was and remains cheap, petty, jealous, bigoted, and untalented. She also tries to kill herself every few years, without success. I hope she never succeeds, but one wonders if she is very good at anything?

—Yves Montand

Catherine Deneuve is an iceberg. Gorgeous, but an iceberg. And her beauty is melting, melting, melting....

—Steve McQueen

Bob Hope would attend the opening of a supermarket.

—Marlon Brando

Nowadays, the women are sexually aggressive, to an extreme, like Madonna, and the men are sexually passive or not at all, like Michael Jackson. Worst of all, the biggest stars in Hollywood now aren't even actors; they're singers whose voices are undistinguished and merely serviceable! What ever happened to class?

—Bette Davis

When I was new to Hollywood, good manners were stressed. We were expected to be polite in public. That's all gone. Now, someone like Alec Baldwin behaves like a spoiled brat whenever he feels like it. Like, what's he so angry about? He's young, handsome, rich, famous. Isn't that enough?

—Anthony Perkins

You know, once they're dead, death just scrubs [celebrities] clean. Everybody says, "Oh, they were wonderful." Suddenly, Grace Kelly didn't drink.

—Joan Rivers

Mae West—she's a legend in her own mind.

-Jayne Mansfield

I wish I had a sister. I've always been the intruder in her life, the interloper. As my older sibling, Olivia [de Havilland] could have looked after me. Au contraire, her desire my whole life has been to get me off-balance. We've not spoken since Mother's death in 1974, and that's it, kid. Never again.

—Joan Fontaine

r18, I'm wondering if Steve tried to hit that and failed. Some of these seem to hit at jealousy

Everyone wants to know about the feud between my sister and myself, and why shouldn't I admit that I haven't been able to forgive her for not inviting me to our mother's memorial service...and for other cruelties. I married first, won the Oscar before Olivia did, and if I die first she'll undoubtedly be livid because I beat her to it.

—Joan Fontaine

Joan Crawford—Hollywood's first case of syphilis.

—Bette Davis

One area of life Joan should never have gotten into was children. She bought them....Joan was the perfect mother in front of the public but not behind the front door. She wanted this image that wasn't meant for her.

—Bette Davis

Everyone wants to know about the feud between my sister and myself, and why shouldn't I admit that I haven't been able to forgive her for not inviting me to our mother's memorial service...and for other cruelties. I married first, won the Oscar before Olivia did, and if I die first she'll undoubtedly be livid because I beat her to it.

—Joan Fontaine

Joan Crawford—Hollywood's first case of syphilis.

—Bette Davis

One area of life Joan should never have gotten into was children. She bought them....Joan was the perfect mother in front of the public but not behind the front door. She wanted this image that wasn't meant for her.

—Bette Davis

Joan Crawford—I wouldn't sit on her toilet!

—Bette Davis

I saw Bette Davis in a hotel in Madrid once and went up to her and said, "Miss Davis, I'm Ava Gardner and I'm a great fan of yours." And she behaved exactly as I wanted her to behave. "Of course you are, my dear," she said, "of course you are." And then she swept on.

—Ava Gardner

Miriam Hopkins? She was a swine!

—Bette Davis

She's the original good time that was had by all.

—Bette Davis on starlet Marilyn Monroe

Apparently Joan Crawford can't forget an innocent remark I made at my first Hollywood party. Back in 1947,1 was a teenager looking forward to meeting movie stars, and Joan Crawford was my favorite. At the party I said, "I'm glad to meet you, Miss Crawford.

You've always been a great favorite of mine, and my mother's, too." I didn't mean to say she was older than Methuselah, but there was such an embarrassing silence I wanted to die. Since then, she's been needling me in print and at parties.

—Arlene Dahl

No comment. I saw her once at her very worst. I do not condone sadism.

—Estelle Winwood on Joan Crawford

[Brigitte] Bardot was a sex symbol. Period. When she lost her looks, she lost her career, everything. Her mind went, too.

—Simone Signoret

I'm not like Jane Fonda or any of these other women who say how fabulous they think it is to turn forty. I think it's a crock of shit. I'm not thrilled with it.

—Cher

I filmed something called The Pleasure Seekers... and I was sitting in the studio when I heard this real roof-shaking music coming from the dressing room of that girl—the one who has all the long blonde hair and talks so soft—yes, Ann-Margret. Presently, she came out snapping her fingers and wearing a leather suit, and she hopped right on a motorcycle and roared off into the wind. I just sat back in amazement. The studio would have gone berserk if any of us had done that, back then!

—Gene Tierney

Sophia Loren plays peasants. I play ladies.

—Gina Lollobrigida

Who? I never criticize my elders.

—Sophia Loren on Gina Lollobrigida

Sophia Loren has a noticeable bosom. Whose is bigger, I have no idea and could not care less. I became a star without a husband producing my pictures, and I became a star in respectable pictures!

—Gina Lollobrigida

It is a shame that Miss Lollobrigida never won the Academy Award. But she likes to play herself instead of other characters.

—Sophia Loren

We don't see each other anymore. Lana Turner's become a recluse. No one sees her. She thinks absence will make the public's heart grow fonder. All absence does is make people think you're dead.

—Ava Gardner

Goldie Hawn is as bright as a dim bulb.

-Totie Fields

I asked Bette Davis if she'd ever wanted to meet the queen [of England]. She snapped at me. "What for? I am a queen." I wasn't going to argue with her! — Natalie Wood

Jayne Mansfield is to Marilyn Monroe what Richard Nixon is to Eisenhower—a crummy imitation and would-be successor.

—Vivien Leigh

Before the war, actresses had personality, positive or negative. Nowadays it's mostly a busty facade, without much personality behind it. When Marilyn Monroe keeps repeating that she wants to be taken seriously as a performer, I keep asking myself, Then why does she keep accepting those idiotic roles?

—Vivien Leigh

Diana Ross doesn't want to do this movie because she wants to be white.

—Ryan O'Neal about The Bodyguard, an interracial love story finally filmed in 1992 with Whitney Houston and Kevin Costner

Tatum O'Neal....The comparisons to Shirley Temple are disgraceful! She acts like a hoyden [on the screen], and it's encouraged. Producers with very immature tastes derive pleasure from watching child actresses and actresses in their seventies and above acting like tarts...and then to give her an Academy Award [for Paper Moon] on top of it!

—Joan Bennett

They're so handsome, I could be bisexual for them.

—Burt Reynolds (to Barbara Walters) re Ryan O'Neal and other actors and male models, including the Marlboro Man (played by Tom Selleck)

I have this book. It's a lot of fun.

I was one of Monty's [Clift] best friends. I know that James Dean admired Monty's talent and looks, but he didn't have much more than a passing crush on him, let alone a grand passion for him. Monty and Jimmy were far too much alike in their sexual desires to be attractive to each other. And too masochistic.

—Nancy Walker

I got fed up with Twentieth Century-Fox and Hollywood when Marilyn Monroe came on the scene and they actually built her up into this giant of tiny proportions. The things they let her get away with! On account of the money she made for them. For instance, she took direction not from her directors but her lesbian drama coach, whom they all said she was sleeping with. That's none of my concern, but it got my goat when they took a no-talent and began ignoring those of us who could actually act!

—Anne Baxter

I knew right away that Rock Hudson was gay when he did not fall in love with me.

—Gina Lollobrigida

David Bowie is an opportunist. He came out of the closet before any other music star, but he's also the only one I've ever heard of that went back in....

—Peter Allen

I'll always remember going out for dinner with him [David Bowie] and Angie....It was a fabulous evening, and over dinner he admitted to me that he always wanted to be Judy Garland, and that's the God's honest truth.

—Elton John

To be continued

Great thread, OP! Thank you!

I had no idea people in Hollywood ever bitched about each other so much!

It’s so political now (no one wants to lose work or look bad on Twitter) and everyone pretty much either acts polite or like they are fake best friends so you never really get to hear this stuff....

Why would I refuse to work with Barbra a second time? The pay is good, and she likes to surround herself with good-looking blondes.

—Ryan O'Neal

Barbra Streisand has as much talent as a butterfly's fart.

—Walter Matthau

I'm the only man who was top-billed over Barbra Streisand. I got first place, but she got $4 million despite it being a much smaller role....Wouldn't you know, it was a flop and almost nobody saw it!

—Gene Hackman, All Night Long

She's certifiable!

—Jack Nicholson on Faye Dunaway, Chinatown

Jennifer Jones was the Meryl Streep of her day. She transformed herself from film to film, varying her type and appearance. She was well-respected but not overly popular....Hollywood prefers a performer to stay the same. Being recognizable, regardless of what one's doing or who one's playing, is the key to movie popularity. Audiences have matured since that time, and now somebody like Meryl Streep is hailed for her diversity. Again, though, she is not major box office—unless she's in a soppy love story with Robert Redford....Meryl Streep is, to me, today's Jennifer Jones.

—Laurence Olivier

Love this. Olivier was a cunt.

Clint Eastwood has two expressions on camera: sullen and angry. Off camera, he has one: very, very rich.

—director Don Siegel

I once heard that Garbo had been approached by one of her directors, a married man. She was furious! She told her friends, "Is he so stupid to believe I am a loose woman, like the womans they make me play?" You see, some of us developed crushes on our directors, or went even further. But I have it on good authority that Garbo was happiest when she could think of her director as a brother. Oh, brother!

—Bette Davis

I'd rather leave directing to the directors. I'd find it distracting to be directed by a Paul Newman. Costarring with him is fine. But I like my directors to be father figures. If Paul directed me, I'd be committing mental incest.

—Ava Gardner

Every other actress in Hollywood has had a nose job, from the Gabors to Mario Thomas and Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn was sensitive about hers, even though she only had the tip done. A nose job was just part of her ordeal in climbing to the top. When she was tipsy, she might break down and tell you how she'd also had to offer blow jobs to climb that ladder of success—wrong by wrong.

—Peter Lawford

In the 1950s she [Audrey Hepburn] had a great influence on how women in Europe and America wanted to look. It was more realistic for them to become like her than like Marilyn Monroe!

—Luchino Visconti

Paul [Newman] is a little paunchy, even though he doesn't eat desserts. Popcorn's his dessert—one of them....

—Rock Hudson

Tony Curtis is a perfect example of what ambition and bad career choices can do to fabulous good looks over the years....

—John Gielgud

There are two good reasons why men will go to see her.

—Howard Hughes on Jane Russell

A genuine diva is a star with or without a man. She can even make her boyfriend or her husband, and sometimes her costar, into a celebrity, via association. Liz Taylor and Richard Burton, Barbra Streisand with her leading men and her hairdresser-boyfriend....Have you noticed there are no more superstar couples? The last diva-divo couple was Taylor-Burton, and the last one that started off as equals, with both of them beautiful, was Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier. Have you seen his post-Vivien wife? Plain as plain! Could be he married her [Joan Plowright] because he grew tired of competition.

—Jill Ireland

Marilyn Monroe was not a legend in life, nor is she a legend now....I was viewing part of a television documentary about her, and one of the participants declared something to the effect that "No one ever sounded as blonde as Marilyn did." What in blazes is that supposed to mean? Was he just talking to hear his head rattle? This entire Marilyn phenomenon escapes me, leaves me cold. The Bogart phenomenon I can better understand. He had a mystique, and so did his films.

Everything about Miss Monroe was and is superficial. Mere surface. She was the antithesis of a professional; her whole outlook was titillation. As when she was asked what she wore to bed and she replied, "Chanel No. 5." No actress would ever give such an impertinent, tasteless reply.

—Judith Anderson

When I walked into that room and found Mick [Jagger] and David [Bowie] together, I felt absolutely dead certain that they'd been screwing. It was so obvious, in fact, that I never even considered the possibility that they hadn't been screwing....I didn't have to look around for open jars of K-Y Jelly.

—Angela Bowie

Fred Astaire did not have a huge feud with Ginger Rogers. The feud was between Rogers and Fred's wife, a tiny, rich woman who was very much in charge. She wouldn't let Fred and Ginger dance together offscreen. She was jealous of Ginger; maybe she imagined Ginger wanted to have an affair with Fred, which I'm sure she didn't— unlike me, Ginger liked handsome men. As for Fred, I honestly don't think he was anything other than basically asexual.

—Ava Gardner

Laurence Olivier on Marilyn:

Well she was married to Arthur Miller and his family were very orthodox jews. When he first brought Marilyn to dinner they made a big fuss and told her that they had made her matzah ball soup and what did she think, it was a special tradition and they hoped she liked it. Marilyn said - oh yes it's very delicious, thank you I'm honored.

The next time she was at Miller's parents once again they served the matzah ball soup, telling about passover and unleavened bread and the tradition of this simple, but symbolic soup. Marilyn said that she loved it, thanking them so much.

The next time when she came to lunch, and was told by Miller's mother that they would again be having - matzo ball soup - Marilyn asked - "What other part of the matzah do you eat?"

Gable's first two wives were older women and decidedly not beauties. But rich....He may have been, initially, a gigolo at heart. That may be why his persona was treating women ;badly, which was not unacceptable then. Clark used his first wives to work his way up....He may have been a divine sex symbol, but he wasn't a prize husband.

—Eve Arden

I knew John Lennon a little bit, and I liked him a lot. He was very intelligent. He was a sensitive, good-hearted person. I couldn't stand her [Yoko Ono]. The Jap. She was always paranoid. The most unpleasant person that ever was, in my opinion. She's a bore.

—Truman Capote

I felt extremely sorry for his [Johnny Carson's] second wife, Joanne. She was very good to him. She did a tremendous amount for Johnny. I don't think Johnny would have survived or have had remotely the career he's had if it hadn't been for her. But he was mean as hell to her. And they lived right next door to me, for years. He would holler and get terribly angry, and she would take refuge in my apartment. She would hide, and Johnny would come pounding on my door, shouting, "I know she's in there." And I would just maintain a dead silence.

—Truman Capote

Never marry a director. He'll want to direct you at home, too. It happened to me with Roberto Rossellini, and Paulette Goddard says the same of Charlie Chaplin.

—Ingrid Bergman

I tried hard to make my marriage [to actor Mel Ferrer] work. I discovered that actors are always competing. The men, anyhow. So I cut back on my film schedule, did fewer movies, was with him more often. It still didn't work out, because even if I worked less, I couldn't make myself a smaller star—small enough to please him....

—Audrey Hepburn

Joan Crawford thought about marrying Clark Gable and even considered me for a while. But I don't think either Clark or I would have relished playing a supporting part in Miss Crawford's private life....My advice to most any man in this business is, don't marry an actress, and I know whereof I speak.

—Henry Fonda

I left [husband Burt Reynolds] the day he threw me against our fireplace and cracked my skull.

—Judy Carne

Simone [Signoret] is a very patient woman. She has to be to stay married to me. I am so happy that she has never thrown me out. Very long ago, Edith Piaf threw me out, and for me it was a great tragedy, although I was not married to her.

—Yves Montand

OP Threads like this one are a great reminder of how precious DL is! Lol! I haven't read anything this fun in a while.

It’s not that Susan Sarandon is jealous of Meryl Streep, it`s just that she wishes that every now and then she`d get a script that Streep hadn`t already passed up. 'Everything goes to Meryl first. It`s the law,' says Sarandon in the March issue of Fame magazine. 'I am one of those who think Meryl is a great actress. I don`t elevate her to the goddess level, but she does get first crack at all the women`s roles. If other women had the same shots she`s had, they could equal her.' But it appears the rivalry between the two women also exists on a more personal level. 'If her household runs as perfectly as her press would have us believe, I`ll slash my throat,' Sarandon says.

Life is difficult enough without Meryl Streep movies. - Truman Capote

She looks like a chicken! - Truman Capote

Katharine Hepburn also had some disparaging remarks for Glenn Close as a stage actress, saying she had "big, fat, ugly feet."

Now that Jennifer Lopez has edged up to what she calls "the bottom of the A-list of actresses," how does she view the women with whom she's been in contention for roles? Like, say, Salma Hayek? "We're in two different realms. She's a sexy bombshell and those are the kinds of roles she does. I do all kinds of different things. It makes me laugh when she says she got offered Selena, which was an outright lie. If that's what she does to get herself publicity, then that's her thing. Columbia offered me the choice of Fools Rush In or Anaconda, but I chose the fun B-movie because the Fools script wasn't strong enough."

Cameron Diaz? "A lucky model who's been given a lot of opportunities I just wish she would have done more with. She's beautiful and has a great presence, though, and in My Best Friend's Wedding, I thought, 'When directed, she can be good.'"

Gwyneth Paltrow? "Tell me what she's been in? I swear to God, I don't remember anything she was in. Some people get hot by association. I heard more about her and Brad Pitt than I ever heard about her work."

Claire Danes? "A good actress. Her emotional and inner life are available to her, which is a good start. But I feel like I see a lot of the same thing with every character she does. She's not that way in U-Turn, though."

Winona Ryder? "I was never a big fan of hers. In Hollywood she's revered, she gets nominated for Oscars, but I've never heard anyone in the public or among my friends say, 'Oh, I love her.' She's cute and talented, though, and I'd like her just for looking like my older sister, Leslie."

Madonna? "Do I think she's a great performer? Yeah. Do I think she's a great actress? No. Acting is what I do, so I'm harder on people when they say, 'Oh, I can do that--I can act.' I'm like, 'Hey, don't spit on my craft.'"

R52, Lopez is absolutely right about all of those actresses, especially Winona Ryder, but she is absolutely WRONG about herself. She's a less talented actress than ALL of them, with the possible exception of Hayek.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Uh I think a mushroom is a better actor than Madonna.

R52, I remember the shockwaves that rippled throughout the Hollywood community after that Movieline interview came out. People were pissed, and JLo had to make amends. Madge and Gwynnie, who were besties at the time, were at Donatella Versace's New Year's Eve dinner party when JLo showed up late. As Donatella got up to greet her, Madge announced "Dinner's over now!" and left the room, with Gwynnie and their posse in tow.

[quote] Helmut [Berger] had no style. He had no culture. He was just a skiing waiter with a big bum.

—Charlotte Rampling

Gwyneth Paltrow said that Ben Affleck’s perfect woman would be “any sort of stripper at Scores. Anyone that serves cold beer in a bikini.”

Jennifer Lawrence’s favorite fast food was Harvey’s

Madeline Ashton goes to the opening of an envelope

R4--damn, Deneuve was a good read of situations and people. Her comments on the "metoo" movement are also accurate. Thankfully, she aged better mentally and physically than Bardot who looks like a sack of potatoes.

And Steve McQueen is wrong about Deneuve aging badly. She still looks great today. Again, just compare her to that sack of potatoes known as Bardot and see the difference. Additional plus: she's not a right-wing Nazi.

R62 Most probably, Catherine turned down Steve's advances. so he was being bitter about it. Steve was a man whore. I'm sure he wanted to sleep with her.

"His writing is limited to songs for dead blondes" - Keith Richards on Elton John

"I never hated Madonna. I just thought she was a bitch. Actually I quite respect her." - Cher

"To celebrate the big Christmas blockbuster Victoria Beckham is throwing a Narnia party. All she needs now is a lion and a wardrobe." - Carole Malone, TV Presenter

R63, 100% true. Steve McQueen was like the Ryan Gosling of his day--no personality, but attractive (in a ken doll kind of way) and could probably bang any woman he wanted. When Deneuve turned him down, he must have been pissed!

R61, no, her comments on metoo were tacky and showed a lack of awareness, which is why she did a take back after getting called out.

R66 No, Deneuve said she still stood by the letter she signed But.....

"The French actor said she stood by the statement that caused an international outcry when it was published last week, but distanced herself from a number of other female signatories.

In her letter, published in Libération, Deneuve said she had signed the statement because she opposed the “media lynching” of men accused of inappropriate behaviour and found its message “vigorous” if not “entirely right”.

“Yes, I signed that petition, however, it seems absolutely necessary today to underline my disagreement with the way certain signatories have individually assumed the right to expand upon it in the media, distorting the spirit of the text,” she wrote.

She referred to former radio presenter Brigitte Lahaie, who during a heated debate on BFMTV said women were able to “orgasm during a rape”. Without mentioning Lahaie by name, Deneuve said this was “worse than spitting in the face of those who have suffered this crime”.

“Not only do these words suggest to those who are used to using force or sexuality to destroy that it’s not so serious … but when one signs a manifesto that engages other people, one avoids dragging them into one’s own verbal incontinence. It’s unworthy. And obviously nothing in the text claims that harassment is good, otherwise I wouldn’t have signed it,” she wrote.

How funny that she thinks men are being "lynched" when male stars have it easy. Kevin Spacey has been a sexual predator for over 35 years and is walking free. Harvey Weinstein is still free.

Sharon Osbourne on Madonna: 'Madonna? ?She's a t**t. I would like to punch her. [...] She is so full of s***. She's in Kabbalah one minute, she?s a Catholic the next ? she?ll be a Hindu soon no doubt.?"

R58, so, basically the female equivalent of the instahos and "what do you think of this hottie" posted by DLers. Like many straight men, Ben would probably have been happier if he had been gay.

A lot of unknown (to me) gems here, like Dame Judith Anderson’s takedown of Michael Caine.

R66 is absolutely correct. I don't have anything against Deneuve but her MeToo comments showed that she's from a generation where women tolerated behavior that they should not have had to. When she said that she didn't want to discourage men from "stealing a kiss" sometimes, it was just cringe-worthy in its cluelessness. "Steal a kiss?" You mean some guy putting his mouth on yours without asking? Imagine some guy "stealing a kiss" from a co-worker. It's disgusting. These women go to work TO WORK, not to have to put with that nonsense. Men don't have to put up with it when they go to work (if any do, it's the exception, not the rule) so why should women. I'm appalled by any of this sympathy for white guys now that they are finally being called on their bullsh*t and being put in their place after literally generations of them doing whatever they wanted to whomever they wanted. Where's the sympathy for all the women and people of color who had their dignity, humanity, freedom and even the integrity of their person disrespected, stepped on, and violated? All the ones who didn't get jobs or promotions or raises because they weren't in the white Boy's Club? The women literally raped, sexually assaulted and humiliated by horny a**holes? Let's not forget who was really victimized here and for how long.

Bravo R72!

Otto Preminger couldn't direct his little nephew to the bathroom.

Dyan Cannon

Once again I am struck by the feeling that Charles Grodin and Ellen Burstyn ... Ellen especially ... have the knack of sucking the joy out of life and turning everything gray.

Bernard Slade, author of "Same Time, Next Year", after appearing in a photo shoot with the stars of his hit play

"That underfed little body with those huge brown eyes darting all over the room constantly she reminded me of a Pekingese with TB"

-Richard Burton on Natalie Wood

"Her handlers always had her seated ahead of time at parties so that nobody saw her struggling to walk. She had on so much make-up she reminded of a Kabuki, yet every once in while you'd see an eye going around behind that huge mask so you knew she wasn't dead."

-Joan Collins on Mae West

"Hands down the most unprofessional actor I ever work with. I have never known another actor to behave so badly."

-James Mason on Raquel Welch

"He was so angry at me for making a movie with Dean (Martin) that he wouldn't speak to me for years and years."

-Stella Stevens on Jerry Lewis

R68, the term Deneuve used was "lynchage médiatique," a commonly used French term to refer to the repeated and systematic criticism of persons or groups by the media. Deneuve wasn't defending Weinstein et. al. She was expressing her concern over social media being the judge and jury and declaring people guilty without a fair trial. This was happening a lot in France, with men in high postions getting fired because of accusations made on social media and the press.

And yes R72, she is of a different generation. She is also French. The French have a different perspective when it comes to dating, courtship, and seduction. There are many gray areas whereas [italic]Les Anglo-Saxons[/italic] see black and white.

"Whenever I'd run into her years later she always made me feel like I was one of her subjects paying homage to royalty"

- Carroll Baker on Elizabeth Taylor

"He needs to be the constant center of attention. Otherwise he pouts."

-Janeane Garafolo on Mel Gibson

"Look, we were friends for years but I also knew what a SOB she could be; I saw what she did to Franchot."

- Barbara Stanwyck on Joan Crawford

R79, completely agree. This is why I said above that Deneuve seems to be prescient. She was obviously more insightful about Woody Allen when other celebs are/were too busy kissing his ass.

"Linda arrives at first rehearsal with cosmetic surgery tape over and under her eyelids and underneath her chin. She also has the weirdest collagen enhanced lips I've ever seen. They make her look like a gargoyle when she smiles."

"It's quite off putting to have to look at that face."

-- Joan Collins on Linda Evans

Some of these mentions come from sources unreliable. But the description of Natalie Wood @ R75 sounds exactly like what Richard Burton would say. Natalie was only pretty to gay men and teen boys after all. A very tiny woman with such a tremulous way about her. "Like a Pekingese with TB."

"He looks like a dwarf that fell into a vat of pubic hair." --Boy George on Prince

"Now there’s a broad with her future behind her.” -- Constance Bennett on Marilyn Monroe

"Gwyneth Paltrow is quite pretty, in a British, horsey sort of way." -- Julia Roberts

"Keir Dullea... gone tomorrow!" -- Noel Coward

"I could just about stand to look at Joan Crawford's face at 5am... but Bette Davis? Forget it!" -- Vivien Leigh, on why she refused to take a part in "Hush... Hush, Sweet Charlotte"

"She could stand to be a little more magnanimous, and a little less of a cunt." -- Cher on Madonna

"Imagine what a brussels sprout would sound like if a brussels sprout could talk" --Gore Vidal, describing Truman Capote's voice

"All of a sudden she didn't want to play a woman guarded by a white bodyguard because Diana Ross doesn't want to show her body, doesn't want to do sex scenes on the screen, doesn't want to sing, and doesn't want to be black. As you can see, we are obviously no longer an item." -- Ryan O'Neal

R79, I'd say Deneuve is the one incapable of nuanced thinking, since she and the people defending her here don't understand that "innocent until proven guilty" only applies to the legal system. I didn't see anyone here defending Jerry Sandusky before his trial. You guys just want to believe your favorite stars are not guilty of the things they've been accused of. You want a different standard for celebs you like.

A lot of great stuff here but my favorite is still Cary Grant and Clark Gable getting together to trade their unwanted monogrammed gifts. I really hope that one's true.

" I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire ! "

-Bette Davis on Joan Crawford

^ I love that one too. I find it kind of cute.

R83 Except that she's very recently said she'd LOVE to work with Allen, to the extent that a French talk show host asked Allen himself, on camera, about casting Deneuve in one of his films.

His reply? He thinks she's great, but he doesn't have a story in mind at this time that would be a good fit for her, but one day...he'd love to. (she's almost 76...)

In other words, she's too old. Ain't gonna happen.

" I laugh every time I see one of those stories about who was Elizabeth's greatest love: Mike Todd or Richard Burton. Anyone who knows her, and I've known her for decades knows that Elizabeth's greatest love has always been herself. "

-Evelyn Keyes on Elizabeth Taylor

" He possesses a certain je ne ce queer ..... "

-Orson Welles on Tony Perkins

Oops R93 was meant for R91. I don't find un-pissed Joan on fire cute.

" Totally down to earth. She had no illusions about Hollywood, and was lots of fun to be with. "

-Ray Milland on Paulette Goddard

" She was beyond cross eyed; much worse than Karen Black really. By the time the lighting and cameramen had set everything so that she would photograph cross eyed half the day was shot to hell. "

-Joan Crawford on Norma Shearer

"so that she would NOT photograph cross eyed"

Bette Davis's Tonight Show interviews own this thread.

Starting at 3:00 mark....

And then at the 2:45 mark....

[quote] I don't find un-pissed Joan on fire cute.

I do!

[quote]" She was beyond cross eyed; much worse than Karen Black really. By the time the lighting and cameramen had set everything so that she would photograph cross eyed half the day was shot to hell. "

Learn from the Masters, Kids.

Note how Joan is after Norma Shearer but cleanly and effortlessly eviscerates Karen Black just for the sport of it.

r90 would have us believe all women....

R105 thinks all men are innocent until proven guilty....but not women! He just immediately assumes they are guilty!

Can we not turn this into another stupid #MeToo thread? Shut the fuck up and tell us more bitchy things Joan Crawford and Bette Davis said about one another.

"As for the movie—I don't think very much of it. The actual making of it was a helluva lot more interesting. I got started on a great feud with M. [Montgomery] Clift—for six weeks we really loathed each other—but then (this is for your eyes alone!) we suddenly started a sort of mild flirtation, which snowballed along until it reached very tropic climates indeed. Nothing too serious—I'm not breaking up house and home—but it has been rather fun, and anyway he is really awfully sweet and I like him quite a lot."

—Truman Capote on his brief fling with Monty Clift on the set of the 1953 film Indiscretion of an American Housewife a.k.a. Terminal Station. Excerpt from Too Brief a Treat:The Letters of Truman Capote.

More on Truman Capote Vs...

Truman on Mick Jagger: "He moves like a parody between a majorette girl and Fred Astaire.

Truman on Joyce Carol Oates: “To me, she's the most loathsome creature in America."

Truman on Princess Margaret: "She's a very high-strung girl who wants to be royalty on one hand and on the other a hippie."

Truman on Liz Taylor: "She has an extraordinary inferiority complex, and it's difficult to get through."

Truman on Bob Dylan: "That big phony—he's as urbanized as a graduate of Bronx High."

Truman on William Faulkner: "He was a great friend of mine. Well, as much as you could be a friend of his, unless you were a 14-year-old nymphet."

Truman on Nelson Rockefeller: "He's like a good brand of cereal—nothing is wrong, but nothing is particularly appetizing."

Truman on Jacquelin Susann: “She looks like a truck driver in drag.”

Truman on Richard Avedon: "He made me look like a heroin addict [in a photo]. He used a frame of me blinking. He knows he's cheating. He wants to be considered a great artist and at the same time have a big house. He wants it both ways."

Truman on Sammy Davis Jr: "When I saw him kissing Nixon, I thought he was the new Checkers."

Truman on Audrey Hepburn: “Paramount double-crossed me in every conceivable way and cast Audrey [Hepburn, who] was just wrong for that part [in Breakfast at Tiffany's]."

Truman on Andy Warhol: "He's a Sphinx without a secret."

Truman on Candice Bergen: "She's a really pretty girl with appalling taste in men. There's something spinsterish about her."

Truman on the Kennedy Men's "endowment": “I’ve seen an awful lot of them, and if you put all of the Kennedys together, you wouldn't have a good one.”

Truman on Neil Simon: "Neil Simon can write 500 million plays that'll be successes forever and ever, but he wil never write a work of art."

More from Truman Capote on Joyce Carol Oates:

"She’s a joke monster who ought to be beheaded in a public auditorium or in Shea or in a field with hundreds of thousands (Laughs.) She does all the graffiti in the men’s room and the women’s room and in every public toilet from here to California and back, stopping in Seattle on her way! (Laughs.) To me, she’s the most loathsome creature in America…. I’ve seen her, and to see her is to loathe her. To read her is to absolutely vomit…."

"[S]he’s written me a fan letter. She’s written me extreme fan letters. But that’s the kind of a hoax she is. I bet there’s not a writer in American [sic] that’s ever had their name in print that she hasn’t written a fan letter to. I think she’s that kind of person…. or creature… or whatever. She’s so… oooogh! (Shudders.)"

— Excerpt from Conversations with Capote.

"Ironic that I am a judge for the Truman Capote award when Capote in a druggy interview said he hated me & that I should be executed. LOL."

—Joyce Carol Oates

I miss talk shows simply because of r109's post. People like Truman used to show up on talk shows and bitch the hell out of people. It was like watching a refugee from the old DataLounge.

Gore Vidal Vs Truman Capote:

I first met Truman [Capote] at Anaïs Nin's apartment. My first impression—as I wasn't wearing my glasses—was that it was a colourful ottoman. When I sat down on it, it squealed. It was Truman."

"Capote I truly loathed. The way you might loathe an animal. A filthy animal that has found its way into the house."

Truman on Vidal: "I'm always sad about Gore—very sad that he has to breathe everyday"

Gore Vidal on Truman Capote's death: "A brilliant career-move"

Infamous gossip columnist and out lesbian, Liz Smith, on Jackie O.’s younger sister—socalite and wannabe actress—"Princess" Lee Radziwill, and her homophobic shit stirring between Truman Capote and Gore Vidal:

“She was always a close friend of Truman Capote’s. But then Capote got embroiled in that ridiculous libel suit with Gore Vidal over his claim that Vidal had been drunkenly kicked out of the White House,” Liz said. “Lee is the one who told Capote the story, but when it ended up in court, she threw him to the wolves. All she had to do was tell the truth. But she refused, and Truman lost the lawsuit, which devastated him. During the trial, as a last-ditch effort, he asked me to call her and beg her to testify. And you know, Truman had done everything for her. He even tried to help her start an acting career. But when I called her and said, ‘Lee, you really testify for Truman,’ she said, ‘Oh, Liz, what do we care; they’re just a couple of fags! They’re disgusting.’ I was so stunned, I just hung up. I’ve never spoken to her since.”

"Capote I truly loathed. The way you might loathe an animal. A filthy animal that has found its way into the house."

That statement makes Vidal look like a bigger asshole than Capote.

Dotson Rader on Truman Capote in Key West:

A man came up to our table and asked, "Are you Truman Capote?" And Truman said, "I was this morning!" And the man unzipped his pants, and pulled out his cock. He said, holding it in the palm of his hand, "Can you put your signature on this? And Truman looked down at the cock, and up again, and he said. "I don't know about my signature. But I can initial it!"

The Liz Smith story should serve as a reminder of why no one on DL with an ounce of self-respect should wax nostalgic about Radziwill, as was done on a recent thread.

The trouble with Vidal and Capote was they were great nasty bitches, but they were not very good as writers. Capote was second-rate--he produced two minor classics that people still read today: Breakfast at Tiffany's and In Cold Blood. And Vidal did not even have THAT status. Who still reads him today?

Vidal's first memoir PALIMPSEST was listed as one of the top 100 memoirs in the NY Times a couple of months ago. I also just finished reading THE CITY AND THE PILLAR recently and it's certainly ahead of its time.

He became a better writer with his historical novels like JULIAN, BURR, and WASHINGTON D.C.

R117, I believe Truman also wrote the script for "The Innocents" (feel free to correct me). It's a great script that is true to the source material (The Turn of the Screw).

[quote]Capote was second-rate--he produced two minor classics that people still read today: Breakfast at Tiffany's and In Cold Blood.

You forgot "To Kill A Mockingbird" you drunk pansy!

R120, that's Harper Lee, you sow!

Are you the drunk pansy, r120? Harper Lee wrote that.

[quote][R120], that's Harper Lee, you sow!

[quote]Are you the drunk pansy, [R120]? Harper Lee wrote that.

Harper Lee put her name to the book but Truman WROTE it. We all read Harper's crappy "Go Set A Watch." It wasn't anywhere near the prose in "To Kill A Mockingbird." Truman Capote wrote that book!

Go Set a Watchman was not a crappy book, it was written when Harper Lee was very much in decline. Besides, do you really think Capote would give someone else credit for something he wrote? Especially a classic?

R123 Stop it.

Great actor, alcoholic, wife beater. What else do you want to know?

Yes, Capote wrote the script for THE INNOCENTS, or parts of it, as the screenplay credit is shared between him and William Archibald.

Archibald had written the stage adaptation (same title) which was on Broadway in 1950 (with Beatrice Straight in the lead). When the play was revived in 1976 with Claire Bloom (directed by Harold Pinter) the NY Times called the play "pedestrian" so my guess is that Capote did a lot of work on the script on that masterpiece of a film.

This is SO much more interesting then the instagram hos and the endless whining about Trump.

Best thread.

Ernest Hemingway on himself and Marlene Dietrich: "We were victims of unsynchronized passion."

[quote] He became a better writer with his historical novels like JULIAN, BURR, and WASHINGTON D.C.

They're readable, but they're still really just hack work.

[quote] They're readable, but they're still really just hack work.

Much better than just "readable" but I'd say his true strength lay in his essays.

And your post has to do with the thread topic how R132? Y'all and all y'all @ R131 could discuss this in a nicely appointed motel room.

#1) You're misusing the phrase "all y'all." "All y'all" refers to a larger group than "y'all," not to another person.

#2) No one appointed you Hall Monitor.

Michael Fassbender on Tom Hiddleston: "Sorry, but I'm better looking than him."

Noted gay novelist, Christopher Isherwood on Montgomery Clift. At Actress Salka Viertel's 1948 New Year Eve Party.

"I think Montgomery Clift was there among others and that this was the night when Clift insisted on drinking blood brotherhood with Christopher. They had met several times already—Clift having been introduced into the Viertel circle by Fred Zinnemann who had directed him in The Search. Whenever Clift and Christopher met, they playacted enthusiasm for each other, but they were never to become real friends. Maybe Clift found Christopher cold and standoffish. Christopher found Clift touching but ugly minded and sick."

—excerpt from Lost Years: A Memoir:1945-1951 by Christopher Isherwood

Christopher on Montgomery Clift. At September,1956 dinner party with Christopher's longtime companion Don Bachardy and Marguerite Lamkin, voice coach for film production Raintree County, sister of novelist and playwright Hillyer Speed Lamkin [Christopher's former lover,]and once married to actor Rory Harrity.

"Don and I had supper with Marguerite Lamkin last night. Horrific tales of her adventure with the Raintree County company. Clift's drinking and the love life of Elizabeth Taylor. Marguerite adores all of this and recounts it with niggery glee. She really longs to be involved with [anything melodramatic and exciting]. Now she's "mothering" Monty Clift. She wants to bring him to supper on Saturday night—promising that he will probably smash everything and have to stay the night. The prospect doesn't charm me. I am wondering whether to call it off."

"Clift behaved neither better nor worse than I'd expected. He arrived drunk, crumpled somewhat during supper but didn't spill anything and left soon after. I was really shocked by the change in his appearance since I saw him last. Nearly all of his good looks have gone. He has a ghastly, shattered expression. Both Don and I felt we could have handled Monty better without Marguerite. It is obvious that she arouses his sadism. She fuses at him the whole time, subconsciously provoking violence. Monty is touching, and very anxious to be friendly—but, oh dear, how sorry he is for himself!"

"Marguerite tells us that when Clift is very drunk on the set the crew have passwords—bad is "Georgia," very bad is "Florida," worst of all is "Zanzibar."

—Excerpt from Christopher Isherwood Diaries, Volume One, 1939-1960

Christopher on Montgomery Clift being a dick to his lover, Don.

"Don felt that Tennessee [Williams] was disregarding him and slighting him; he was very angry about this. He felt the same about Monty Clift. And of course Monty was rude, though the hostility may have been subconscious. When Don came in, he said, "You weren't invited," and when Don left, he said, "Goodbye shitface." Clift certainly is, even at his best, a dismal kind of degenerate, with a degenerate's ugly unfunny aggressive attempts at humor."

—Excerpt from Christopher Isherwood, The Sixties, Diaries Volume Two; 1960-1969

R137, boy, white people can't put two contiguous thoughts together without somehow finding a way to excrete their compulsive, pathological racism -- "niggery glee," huh, Chris?

The man Isherwood describes would have trouble retaining even friends who were opportunists and sycophants. And yet, he was close friends with Elizabeth Taylor, who had nothing to gain from the friendship, and with Kevin McCarthy, who I suppose could have gained a certain sadistic pleasure from his "platonic" friendship with Clift (which I assume included Clift servicing McCarthy), but was he really that much of a bastard? And wouldn't the questionable thrill of being the handsome straight guy sought by the depressed homosexual eventually fade in the face of this level of dysfunction and nastiness?

Liz Taylor is an excellent judge of character.

R140 By the time the 1960s rolled around Kevin McCarthy and Clift's friendship pretty much was nonexistent, almost all of his relationships had deteriorated by then. Clift professed to Nancy Walker that she was the only friend he had, and even this relationship didn't seem to last very long. Clift, with all his mental problems and physical ailments, had become exhausting to the extreme and too much for anyone to take on. Liz only came back into Monty's life as a last ditch attempt to help an old friend out, she was loyal that way, however even her generosity wasn't capable of putting him back together, by then he was too far gone. Clift famously once said to Kevin that he wanted to see the dark recesses of hell... and in the end he got just that.

R140 Monty was known to be rude to his friends, even to his close friend Nancy Walker, Monty used to brutally insult her looks infront of others. Monty was a twisted tragic complex man. But he had a vulnerable sensitive side to him that many found endearing.

[quote]I first met Truman [Capote] at Anaïs Nin's apartment. My first impression—as I wasn't wearing my glasses—was that it was a colourful ottoman. When I sat down on it, it squealed. It was Truman."

Lol.

R141

Taylor's marital record alone proves that she didn't always make wise choices.

R77 Did he elaborate on Raquel Welch's antics with some colourful details?She doesn't seem popular in Hollywood.

She wasn't, R146. She was the classic example of a performer (she was no actress) who coasted to stardom as a sex symbol, and then resented the hell out of it. She wanted to be taken seriously but had very little talent and had zero ability to connect to other actors onscreen. She was incredibly insecure and extremely selfish - I believe Mason said she was the most selfish actress he had ever worked with - and she played the demanding diva to the point where she was barely employable.

Had she had some real acting ability, she could have shed the sex symbol moniker. Her best attempt was probably in THE WILD PARTY, which is not a good film really, but she does have some good scenes in it. But she made director James Ivory's life hell for much of the shoot.

R147, it's funny that she played herself on Seinfeld.

At that point she didn't have any other options but to lampoon her reputation. It's probably one of the few times she's actually funny onscreen.

R147 Thanks for your reply, she sounds like an utter nightmare as a costar and performer. She is not really a Hollywood legend or icon like someone like Elizabeth Taylor nor beloved with a fanbase like Joan Collins. I bet shes quite bitter and jealous over that.

R146, Mason made this comment after working with Welch on "The Last of Sheila." She was impossible to work with and the whole cast and crew ended up loathing her. Screen husband Ian McShane commented, "She isn't the most friendly creature. She seems to set out with the impression that no one is going to like her."

Some incident supposedly occurred between director Herbert Ross and Welch in her dressing room that caused her to walk off the set and file assault and battery charges against him. She fled to London and held up production. Warner Bros sided with Ross, and when she returned, she came with bodyguards.

So fed up was the crew that when Raquel was shooting a scene where she was swimming alongside the yacht, the crew opened up the sewage port, causing her to swim throught human waste.

Lol wow 😁 thanks for the details!The swimming in sewage antics are deliciously naughty!! R151

One more tidbit about "The Last of Sheila": the writers Anthony Perkins and Stephen Sondheim, when offering the part of vapid, prima donna starlet 'Alice Wood' to Raquel, told her that her and McShane's parts were based on Ann-Margret and husband Roger Smith. In actuality, they based the characters on Raquel herself and her producer husband Peter Curtis. Perkins and Sondheim thought it would be a kick to get Raquel to play herself, but knew she would turn it down if she knew the truth. Supposedly, the name 'Alice Wood' was an inside joke on how they felt about her talents as an actress.

*Patrick Curtis, not Peter.

“I think he sexually assaulted a child and I don’t think that’s right … It’s gotten very quiet in here, but that’s true.”

-DL fave Susan Sarandon on Woody Allen

R38 I guess you're satisfied because you're alive and have the capacity to gloatingly insult the dead.

R37 I don't believe this is a genuine quote. The late Lord Olivier may have been praising his costar in the worthy William Wyler film 'Carrie' from 1962 but I don't believe he would be making anecdotes about Meryl Gummer from 1985 because his last decade was striven with multiple illnesses and anxiety about accumulating money to support his family after his imminent death.

"I am so sick of everything being, you know, "Starring Meryl Streep!" Who else?! You haven't hired anybody else in 20 years!" - Elaine Stritch

"Jessica Lange is a B-I-T-C-H. Bitch, bitch, bitch. Put it in the fucking magazine." - Brian Dennehy

Ava Gardner on Paul Newman, her co-star in The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean (1972): “I can’t stand that man. He’s one of my unfavorite actors. He’s an egomaniac and so false.”