Justin Trudeau photo scandal

EXISTING THREAD POLICE!!!!!

OP is worse than Hitler.

Hilarious!

Mein Fuhrer!

This is the ONE and ONLY thread.

Has he responded yet?

No, but Susan Dey has.

Like "male feminists," the sanctimoniously (and nauseatingly) woke are ALWAYS the ones who end up being pigs.

It’s in black and white, but I’m guessing he really doing blue face and is a genie?

Was that sort of thing (blackface) acceptable in 2001? Northam’s youthful blackface photo was from the 1980s when he was in college. Justin was 29 when he went to that party in blackface.

Blackface still happens a lot, especially in many Universities, usually the most prestige.

R10 the chattering class on Canadian TV say that at 29 year old teacher, Trudeau should have known better - AND back in 2001 it was unacceptable.

I agree r9, I would assume blue. why isn't there a color photo?

Trudeau has admitted he was in blackface.......fuuuuuccccccckkkkkkkkk

This was taken in 2001, how has this not come to light before?

At least Trudeau is apologizing...Scheer still hasn't apologized for comparing gays to a dog.

Trudeau is not going anywhere...if it really were an issue, it would have been one 20 years ago when his father was PM

But the chattering class on TV (all white though) are saying for Justin Trudeau IT'S OVER

things that happened in the past have no relevance on today!

Get ready for Prime Minister Scheer. Harsh truth, liberal and left-leaning voters will turn away from Trudeau because he wore blackface and turban, but aren't comfortable voting for the man who actually wears a turban.

Only 3.5% of Canadians are Black as of 2016.

R19 people of COLOR not just black, how much of the vote to they represent

I think its ridiculous that this could derail his career. I hope people consider his age at the time, accept his apology and let it go

Then again, I also think the drama queens on this site willing to cut a bitch over a parking spot and plan elaborate revenge scenarios are losers and need to let those issues go, too.

I think this is very very very bad. It plays against his whole brand of being a progressive. It will insult non-white liberal supporters but will it be enough to change their votes?

Justin was strongly rumored to have been intimate with Jian Ghomeshi, who had a degree in wormens studies and who had befriended Ani DiFranco and Gloria Steinem before, you know punching women in the head and cracking their ribs and calling it consensual BDSM. Justin was a hottie when young but his taste and judgment are questionable.

R23 I've never heard that rumour of Justin and Ghomeshi. Ghomeshi had a big mouth - no pun intended - and he bragged openly about a lot of his conquests. Trust me if he had bedded a Trudeau, he would have been talking about that left right and center.

[quote] This was taken in 2001, how has this not come to light before?

It was kept in the dark.

He did, R24. Heard it from a few people. Shudder.

[quote]I hope people consider his age at the time,

Yeah, he was 29 years old, not some college kid. And a teacher at that.

Genies are blue?

95% of DLers would still do him.

Or be done by him, as the case may be

R12 it's only unacceptable to people with an inferiority complex like you and most of the SJWs that are spreading like the plague. that's like saying painting a child's face with a tiger pattern will offend the animal kingdom.

Idiots.

Datalounge is very bottom heavy, YMF. We can't all be swaggering tops like yourself.

R27 and 29 is mature? look at all the 20 something SJWs here and in every website thinking the world revolves around they're own faulty ideals and tell me how mature they are. you won't because you're one of them.

R16 The only people who are saying this are the same ones who pulled this photo out of nowhere, Conservatives.

Like this wasn't a ploy by the conservatives? Bitch Please, Trudeau FTW.

R33 so now CBC News is Fox North?

[quote] It’s in black and white, but I’m guessing he really doing blue face and is a genie?

That a clever idea, R9. He should say that.

There’s probably more out there. He just said this in response to a reporter:

[quote]Reporter: "Do you want to tell Canadians about any other instances where you are concerned that you were racist?"

[quote]Trudeau: "I've always — and you'll know this — been more enthusiastic about costumes than is sometimes appropriate."

He looks even hotter as a brown person!

R32 Again: 29 is a grown-ass adult, not some kid.

And, again, he was a teacher at the time.

R36 Then the blue man group will find it offensive and deploy their mindless sjw trolls all over the internet and create thousands of threads on how it's racists and insensitive.

This is very bad. The whole world is turning fascist. I hope Canada can contain this to a minority parliament. I have a feeling there's more to come for Justin Trudeau. The gentle Canadians are about to fight very dirty.

[quote] The gentle Canadians are about to fight very dirty.

exactly

R39 Again, you are one hell of a stupid person to think that at 29 you have reached a magical age where all the wisdom of your ancestors suddenly appear to you and therefore you live life with such powerful maturity.

R42 Learning from the neighbors, ay!

Beautiful

Trudeau was toast a year ago. He knows he had no chance of staying in office. This is just one more scandal the public can bash him over. He should have never been PM to begin with.

R46 And you should have never been born but here we are.

R46 did you vote for Mulcair?

I'll bottom Only For Him!

Donna Lemon acting all faux-outraged.

Trudeau is outrageously hot.

I think he should only be forgiven if he agrees to a bare bottomed spanking. It’s the only way to move past this.

Weird how long this took to come out.

R37 LOL!

R53 it's not weird. it was politically planned to outrage people of no character strength and causing an idot to faux cry on TV.

[Quote]] people of COLOR not just black, how much of the vote to they represent

And they will all now switch their votes to the Conservative party! 🙄

R52 Well it’s better than fucking a pig like in Black Mirror.

R43 29 is plenty old enough to know not to do shit like this. Or it should be.

R56 no they will go to the NDP and split the progressive vote, letting the CONS win

The problem with this, as I'm sure most of you already understand, is that the left (by which I mean the "woke" twitter class) has appointed itself as the arbiter of correctness, sitting in judgement of all persons (living or dead), places, and things. When you champion an ideology that has only two acceptable categories--woke or cancelled--you get a heady rush by exercising your moral superiority over the unworthy bigots, but all that goes away if you fail to meet your own ridiculous standards. Trudeau has been an eager-beaver of woke ideology, so he now MUST accept the predetermined woke judgement (which is always death-by-cancellation) for his actions.

What you morons who are bitching that "this is the alt-right!" or "look when this was released sheeple!" or "conservative trolls are pushing this story!" fail to understand is that Trudeau did this to himself. And further, by so quickly rushing to condone/ignore his undeniably insensitive if not full-blown racist past actions, you completely undermine your credibility on any PC BS in the future. It's the same as hypothetically claiming that "facist police set up Jussie! He might have hoaxed us, but conservatives are pointing it out so it doesn't matter."

It was "politically planned" to keep it a secret for almost 20 years, R55?

[quote] It was "politically planned" to keep it a secret for almost 20 years,

Harper probably had it in 2015, to use, but thought better NOT to use it.

He also admitted he sang Day-O while wearing blackface in high school talent show. And apologized.

R60 so should Trudeau resign?

R56 only insufferable idiots who have no viable understanding of what a smear campaign is will,

I’m guessing his Arabian nights look is less offensive in Canada (fictional character) than American politicians wearing blackface in offensive stereotypes of African Americans?

Like its a totally different context or is everyone who paints their face for a sports event going to be executed?

R58 you're still arguing? look at your orange president doing stupid shit in his 60s let alone what he was doing in his 20s

R61 it was politically planned to COME OUT now before the elections. You didn't get that the first time?

Wow, there is no rest for anyone. Everyone is working hard to ruin and smear the rich and famous. Who’s next?

R64 YOU should resign your ass off and away from DL

R57 So your argument is “Trudeau did some dumb racist shit but TRUMP is worse!”? Is that about it?

R70 the question was to R60 NOT you

Only a complete asshole with his head up his ass would have done blackface or brown face in 2001. I'm only a few years younger than Trudeau and that definitely would have been a no unless you and your friends were all a bunch of douchebags. I'm sick of this fake environmentalist I'm voting NDP. This is just something else that shows what a fraud he is.

R68, did you not get that R55's reply was to R53? Reread.

R71 HOW was wearing a costume racist? You dumb ignorant intellectually retarded American need to look that word up in the dictionary but knowing you hating lazy ass who resorts to dumbing arguments down to YOUR narrative you probably won't.

Also , WHO was the first pm that celebrated the first black history month in Canada?

Isn’t he dressed like an Indian from India? I thought he was dressed like snoop dog or a gangsta rapper from the headlines!

R73 how old were you in 2001?

R73 Only a COMPLETE ASSHOLE with the emotional insecurity of a 9 year old would be offended by the face paint.

R78 since Jagmeet Singh cried tonight on National TV, would you mean him?

Dud.

[quote] HOW was wearing a costume racist?

Its not, but we aren't living in normal times. EVERYTHING is racist.

R77 probably was still some jizz when his mother decided not to let his daddy pull out.

R79 YES. Jaghmeet is now Cancelled after that crying stunt and only childish people will believe his crocodile tears.

Justin is such a cutie, even with a dark tan.....leave him alone

R81 EXACTLY and these are the real deplorables.

Isn't Dump basically in failed blackface every day? He should apologize.

Trudeau himself said wearing brownface was racist, and he apologized. Voters can now weigh the issue on their own scale before they go to the polls.

Black face? Who the fuck cares? It means nothing.

[quote] Trudeau himself said wearing brownface was racist

He actually used the term "brownface" instead of blackface?

R89 because he was dressed up as a 'brown' person, not a black person

R87 only because he's succumbing to a world ruled by moronic and childish people who now weigh the writings of ignorant millenial sjws higher than that of common sense.

Virtue and Moir announce retirement. Coincidence?

[quote] the picture was taken at an "Arabian Nights"-themed gala

Arabian Nights are black?

R93 CAN you NOT see the photo is in BLACK and WHITE?

Do you have any cells in your fucking brain left?

These things usually backfire on those that bring up and feign outrage. He'll garner sympathy and people will think it ridiculous that stuff is brought up from how many years ago when he was young and stupid? What next? Discovery of a misdemeanor when 13? Culturally, Canada isn't the U.S. The blackface doesn't have the resonance it does in The States. I remember I used to watch The Black & White Minstral show from the 70's and think nothing of it.

Owwee. Trudeau also admitted to dressing in blackface at a high school talent show, where he sang......DAYO!! Daylight come and he want to go home. Bye Justin.

R89 I think he just said "make-up", not "brownface". Regardless, he repeatedly says it was racist in the interview at the link below. And apologizes.

R95 exactly. The only people who are outraged are the conservative trolls and paid figures like Jaghmeet singh crying like a 5 year old. That and Americans who think their media can change our vote.

Justin as Harry Belafonte. Dayo!

R96 no YOU BYE you infantile human with no logical reasoning.

The problem is that the media in Canada has changed dramatically over the past four years, After Trump got elected, Cable News in the USA reaped record profits. Media in Canada saw that and said they want a piece of the action. So now they chase stories and are so repetitive to the point of being like a tabloid - case in point was SNC. I don't think four years ago it would be as big a story as it was. The media MADE IT a big story by repeating it day after day after day, until viewers got sick of it. But by the the damage was done to Trudeau, no thanks to the media by making a mountain out of a molehill

If you think the media will let this story go, you are mistaken. They won't be satisfied until they wring out every but of juice out of this story,

Trudeau has made a full confession, so he accepts responsibility for his actions. Still, there will need to be consequences.

[quote] The only people who are outraged are the conservative trolls

You saying liberals are ok with blackface?

Some of you Trudeau lovers are being a little extra.

R101 exactly. Let's hope Canadians aren't as dumb to listen to them like their neighbors listening to Fox and co.

R103 Anyone who is offended or calls face paint racist has an intellectual maturity of a 10 year old.

Remember who his mother is.

R106 Jagmeet Singh cried tonight, are you saying he is 10 years old?

R102 consequences for wearing a costume 20 years ago?

And who the fuck are you to demand consequences for that?

I don't love Trudeau. He's fake as the day is long, he's corrupt and he's got a flabby ass. But I don't want more fascists in power. Some of the Canadian loons here don't inspire confidence. Blind worship of a leader is never a good idea. IF he survives the election, Trudeau will not remain leader for long. He's going to have to step down. It's inevitable. And one of the beauties of the parliamentary system.

R108 No, He's a 5 year old crying for attention just like Lily.

Did he cry those fucking tears when Air India crashed?

Wont change a single vote for those who intended to vote for him before this nonsense.

R110 if you don't like Trudeau, who are you voting for?

R112 then what about the "undecided"?

What has the west become? Ever since Trump was elected every other country is trying to elect retards for presidents or PMs. You'd rather have Scheer over Trudeau?? The fuck is wrong with you? Falling for this is like falling for Pizzagate.

We all have done silly things in our pasts. Even little minor things can be blown up into the worst things in the world on the political stage. How about instead of looking for pure, unblemished politicians, why not just work to find good leaders who have lived life and who have made mistakes and who can understand what it means to be flawed.

29 ain’t that young, R95

Canada is one of the 3 whitest countries in the Americas, this will not hurt him since the Canadian population is mostly white.

R117 it is you dumb millenial.

Don't start with the 'He was young' excuses. This wasn't taken in the 1930s. He did this at a time and at an age where he should have known better. That said: This isn't worth getting up in arms about and I doubt most on the left actually care despite the rightwing nuts jobs skreeeeeeeeeeeeeeching in this thread about how the 'woke' and the 'SJWs' will latch onto this and end Justin's political career. Unlike the right (who we all know is behind the release of this photo) this isn't one more character defining incident or something that happened recently enough for people to question his support of minority groups or the issues that disproportionately impact them. The right and the trolls that have been shitting all over DL and other outlets online in favor of conservative politicians don't seem to understand this difference.

r97: With the garb, it looks like his aim was to appear like an Aladdin-styled Middle Easterner which makes the black makeup an even odder choice.

Singh and Scheer are going to regret their tasteless behavior after this smear campaign is over.

Looking at social media it mostly white people freaking out about Trudeau saying it's over. The majority of persons of colour are basically saying he's an idiot but he's not an actual white nationalist like the conservatives. And the those who are saying they can't forgive seem to be solid NDP or conservative supports. My hunch is he may see a dip in the polls but not enough to cost him the election.

[quote]This isn't worth getting up in arms about and I doubt most on the left actually care

They (and you R120) should. But they (and you) don't because Trudeau is an approved left fetish. If he was conservative, the image would have been publicized long ago and they (and you) would have shrieked in self-righteous indignation. Instead of rationalizing racism.

R120 Shut your ain't shit ass up. He was young. Who the fuck brings up 1930s as if he was some vampire living through the centuries? Where you even born in 2000 or were you just discovering the cunt between your legs? Either way only a self entitled millenial would think being young doesnt give you excuses. He was young and that IS a solid excuse. The culture that was back then was Way different than it is now if your two braincells can understand that. Not everyone was or still is offended by face paint and wearing clothes from different cultures ESPECIALLY at a THEMED PARTY.

And the photo is in black and white so any dark makeup would look darker than your asshole.

R123 That's because the conservatives are the real racists so anything like that coming out would have a malicious intention and not a "I'm only wearing a costume for a themed party".

Idiot.

R122 Yup, I'm noticing the same thing on twitter. Most people of colour are like what's the big deal his policies speak louder than something he did 20 years ago.

good he's fucking useless and this is a peak example of faux woke white liberals

White racist conservatives are shocked, shocked. It's just political mudslinging. We know what Trudeau stands for.

R125 = Deplorable logic and rationalization. As if the Left isn't just as bigoted and racist as the Right. But one you turn a blind eye to, the other you don't. Hypocrite!

This scandal is BIGGER than the Smollet scandal.

Smollet was just a performer in some TV show; Trudeau is under the impression he's Jesus ofNazareth.

[quote]since Jagmeet Singh cried tonight on National TV

Why did Singh cry?

Singh cwied because he was so hurt by these photos and he knew that many other Canadians would be feeling pain too. He urged people to seek support and stay strong. Jesus Christ. Trudeau is disliked enough already. Nobody cares about this but it will be Comey's reopening the investigation into Hillary's emails 2 weeks before the US election. Disastrous. The 11 o'clock news spent practically the entire broadcast on it. Even the CBC. The Liberals have only 36% support in the polls, in a virtual tie with Schmear. Singh will get some votes out of this. Wasted votes that will only help the PCs.

Did TIME give any hint as to who sent them this old photo?

Time stated it was given to them by " Vancouver businessman Michael Adamson, who was part of the West Point Grey Academy community."

Ha!

I knew this try-hard was fake as hell.!

And what you are missing r60 is that you people show up every damn day with a new "scandal" screaming "this is it, Trudeau is finally going down!" and it never happens.

You say "all hell is breaking loose" but it never really is.

So cry all day about how liberals hurt your feelings all you want; until a real scandal happens, and not just wishful thinking, this is a waste of our time.

He sounds as if both French AND English are second languages for him.

R137 Spanish/Cuban is his birth language.

Finally we are on the verge of ending our long national nightmare. This half-wit, silver spoon, limousine liberal is toast.

I've always had a thing for slighty pudgy blue-eyed blonds. Looking forward to PM Scheer. Justin can move to Cuba to live with his daddy's family.

Has Stefonkee issued a statement?

This seems much ado about nothing. "Blackface" was a thing....meaning, there was a long and unpleasant history, first from minstrel shows, Al Jolson, and then various more mean-spirited versions from the 50s to the 90s, when people should have been more sensitive, and yet still did it, partly as a way to make fun of black skin and hair. However, dressing up as Aladdin in a turban, surrounded by women who have also dressed as some sort of harem girls? Not really seeing that as a long-standing racial slur that has resonated through the ages. I'm playing this very week for a production of Puccini's Madame Butterfly. Every single lead female singer is Caucasian, and every single one is in a kimono with makeup to make her look Japanese. If the photographer holds onto the negatives, is he going to blackmail them all in 20 years as some sort of extreme racists that need to be called out?

No, it has long been frowned on. You could do it, but it had to make the person doing it look stupid.

Like when Samantha did it to Joey to get back at Nell

Or when Archie wore it at this lodge and then had to go to the hospital.

Mike: Who in the world does a minstrel show in this day and age

Archie: My lodge that's who

Mike: Don't you realize how offensive that is to black people?

Archie: That's all right, none of them will see it.

R142 I hope the performer playing Cio-Cio-san doesn't place their hands threateningly close around the neck of their fellow performers.

Pretty dumb for 2001, at least he didn’t have a bone through his nose and a slice of watermelon. Dressing up as a genii, at least it’s something fictional.

[quote] However, dressing up as Aladdin in a turban...

Except Aladdin wasn't black! So the blackface was added as mockery.

A second photo emerges! And this on is straight up blackface

WTF, R147?! That one's even worse. He's toast now.

[quote]Again, you are one hell of a stupid person to think that at 29 you have reached a magical age where all the wisdom of your ancestors suddenly appear to you and therefore you live life with such powerful maturity.

What age do you think people must attain before it is acceptable to hold them accountable for their actions?

[quote]Looking at social media it mostly white people freaking out about Trudeau saying it's over. The majority of persons of colour are basically saying he's an idiot but he's not an actual white nationalist like the conservatives.

Similar to what happened earlier this year when a 1984 photo of Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam in blackface appeared. White liberals (and conservatives, of course) called for his immediate resignation. The NAACP also demanded that he resign, but polling found that the majority of black Virginians wanted him to stay in office. Which he did.

“[R103] Anyone who is offended or calls face paint racist has an intellectual maturity of a 10 year old.”

Look, either blackface (or Indian-face) is acceptable or it’s not.

Indian-face?

If he dressed up as King Louis Quatorze there are deranged people who would be calling him a white supremacist. He was dressed as a fictional character, he was not mocking or belittling any one or any group. Everyone needs to grow the fuck up, again, The infantile identity politics shit needs to end.

r146 IIRC Alladin is actually chinese originally!

He's liberal so he gets a pass.

He wasn’t really hot until he hit 30.

A jeweled turban is not Arabic or African. This is a traditional Arabic head covering.

Mika called it “problematic” at least twice on “Morning Joe” this morning. They were all ripping him.

Why is all this stuff just coming out now?

Highly embarrassing, but I'd still trade the orange devil for him any day.

I have never had anyone in my life wear blackface but it seems to be all the rage in certain circles...bizarre really

[Quote]If he dressed up as King Louis Quatorze there are deranged people who would be calling him a white supremacist. He was dressed as a fictional character, he was not mocking or belittling any one or any group. Everyone needs to grow the fuck up, again, The infantile identity politics shit needs to end.

And the other photo in black face singing Day-O?

Justin has a thing for this face painting.

woke activists would say that fictional or not, a conservative figure in blackface MUST resign and apologize

Last night I had thought that may be this wouldn't tank him, but now with three instances of it he's done. He won't be able to crawl his way out of this. The only hope now is that enough Liberals flip to the NDP. This irony is that Trudeau will lose the election over his looking racist while the NDP will lose because Canadians won't vote for a guy in a turban.

As a Canadian this is hard to watch, I feel bad for Justin. Trudeau has never been racist to my knowledge, just theatrical.

Why do you feel bad for him?

Most people who are racist aren’t going around loudly saying how much they hate n*****s or showing off klan tattoos. It’s much more lowkey and insidious. These two latter instances are just straight up minstrel level mocking. Feel bad for all the people Trudeau has condescended to and ignored as PM, not him.

r164

But if he was ugly he'd be a racist right?

Of course no one learns the bigger lesson or sees the real problem.

This is deadly for Trudeau because it destroys his whole brand. It reinforces that conservative propaganda that Trudeau is nothing by a shallow idiot who actually doesn't know what he's doing. While he lose the election? The jury is still out. If he was running against anyone but Scheer I think he'd be dead in the water. However, if he does win, this will be his last term. He'll resign as party leader before the next election.

I find it hilarious if a man is leftist and hot, he can be forgiven and get away with downright racism. If he was conservative (and ugly) you would be calling this an outrage and call for his resignation.

Bad people exist everywhere on all sides.

[quote] and 29 is mature? look at all the 20 something SJWs here and in every website thinking the world revolves around they're own faulty ideals and tell me how mature they are.

[quote] Again, you are one hell of a stupid person to think that at 29 you have reached a magical age where all the wisdom of your ancestors suddenly appear to you and therefore you live life with such powerful maturity.

[quote] Shut your ain't shit ass up. He was young … Either way only a self entitled millenial would think being young doesnt give you excuses. He was young and that IS a solid excuse. The culture that was back then was Way different than it is now if your two braincells can understand that.

R32, R43, R124, etc, you’re deranged. You keep posting over and over how “29” (almost 30) is so “young” and blah blah. No - society expects you to grow the heck up by 30, especially if you work full-time as a [italic]professional teacher[/italic] educating others.

No (normal) 29-30-year-old TEACHER parades around in black-face or brown-face to “themed parties”! Why? Because, for a person working in professional EDUCATION, it’s not funny - it’s pathetic. Only a total DOUCHE or moron would do that.

When Henry Windsor-Mountbatten wore his moronic Nazi uniform - he was lambasted in the press for it and publicly butt-spanked by his father, Charles (who sent him off to a ‘re-education centre’). Henry was a 20-year-old bottom-of-the-class student during that scandal (and a total dunce at that, failing his exams) - that’s young (college age, just out of his teens). But Trudeau was [italic]a decade OLDER[/italic] than Henry. If Henry Windsor-Mountbatten paraded around in brown-face or black-face aged not 20, but 29-30, or in front of Meghan Markle - he would be roasted by the press.

Let's post images of other Canadians-who-are-more-enthusiastic-about-costumes-than-they-should-be. I'll start.

The Ted Danson blackface story in 1993 was everywhere. Did Trudeau never read a newspaper? Wasn't he always going to go into politics? I don't get how he could be so stupid.

R171 Trudeau is from Quebec - in that part of Canada "Blackface" is a more culturally acceptable practice.

The knee jerk reactions are truly pathetic. People don't have an ounce of common sense and whip themselves up into frenzies of political correctness. The Arabian Nights theme at the private school was put on because the teachers admired this piece of literature. Trudeau didn't dress as Aladdin to make fun of the character and Arabs in general. If he were racist, he wouldn't have people of colour in his cabinet. Just because white actors in old American films would put on blackface to deliberately portray blacks in the U.S. as dim witted, lazy, superstitious, happy-go-lucky, etc., people assume anyone in blackface or brownface is doing exactly the same thing. Trudeau's father was famous because he was prime minister of Canada. He was often interviewed after his political career ended because he was an intelligent man. His son would not deliberately do anything that he knew was offensive because it would come back to bite him. How far does political correctness go? Is it now offensive for whites to have a costume party with an Arabian Nights theme and dress in the way they imagined the characters dressed without using brownface or blackface? I hope none of you watched "I Dream of Jeannie" because that makes you racist. I'm pretty sure I saw part of an old Judy Garland film where she was dressed in blackface along with other actors and they did a musical number whose intent was clearly to make fun of blacks. Surely you can't forgive Garland for doing that. Trudeau was doing nothing of the sort.

This is the correct answer. Don't bother to contradict me because that makes you a politically correct twit.

[quote] Don't bother to contradict me because that makes you a politically correct twit.

Yesterday, Justin Trudeau himself has contradicted you in his calling his own actions racist and apologizing for them. Today, he says he reiterated that his makeup was brownface and racist, and he is "deeply sorry".

R174, typical Trudeau. All talk, zero substance. But hey, if you need anyone to put on Indian clothing and prance around taking pictures with others, he's your guy!

[quote]Yesterday, Justin Trudeau himself has contradicted you in his calling his own actions racist and apologizing for them. Today, he says he reiterated that his makeup was brownface and racist, and he is "deeply sorry".

He said that when he did it, the intent was not racist. He's apologising now to people of colour who may find it offensive even though that wasn't his intent at all. I agree we should all start now with a clean slate after this scandal and whites should avoid brownface and blackface at all times. It's better to be safe than sorry and not have people guess at what your intentions are.

This is really a tempest in a teapot.

[quote] Is it now offensive for whites to have a costume party with an Arabian Nights theme and dress in the way they imagined the characters dressed without using brownface or blackface?

Okay now what about the other two times?

Based on conversations I had at work today and what I'm seeing on social media, I really don't think Trudeau is in as big of trouble as the media are suggesting. At work it was mostly white people freaking out it or those whom I suspect weren't going to vote liberal any way. Most of the POC I work with were kind of like "meh" about it and accept his apology. Most suggested they still trusted him more than Scheer.

[quote]Okay now what about the other two times?

Maybe he loves the song "Day-O" and is a big fan of Harry Belafonte. After all, the song was featured at the end of "Beetlejuice". Maybe that's where he first heard it. Maybe he has OCD and likes to go the whole nine yards and imitate skin color. You can tell from the performance if it's done to mock blacks and I doubt we have a recording of that. As I said before, if he were racist his cabinet would be all white.

Not aware of the third time.

[quote]if he were racist his cabinet would be all white.

Stupid and fake naive comment by an eldergay who understands nothing about racism.

^^^ You don't understand basic logic.

As a gay man I think he's handsome. As a moderate conservative I support few of his policies. But the man is not a racist.

Here’s the third time— in video, in color r179. But please, keep going.

Some media outlets are calling it “blackface” and others are calling it “brownface”. I have never seen nor heard the term “brownface” before. Is the face color term used supposed to be the color the face is actually painted or the “color” of the race supposedly depicted?

[quote]Here’s the third time— in video, in color R179. But please, keep going.

What are you talking about? He raised his arms and shouted like lots of young guys do when they know they're on film. It has nothing to do with mocking blacks. Get a grip.

Nothing more tiresome than ultra liberal whites who spend most of their time being offended on behalf of other people.

Regardless of intent, it was dumb. And thus probably in character.

However, it WASN'T malicious. This wasn't done to ridicule black or brown people. Whereas Scheer has basically had to say that candidates who say bigoted things will still be supported, or he wouldn't have a party left. I hope Canadians can tell the difference. Conservatives have always been dog-whistling bigotry.

This has Warren Kinsella's fingerprints all over it.

[quote] He said that when he did it, the intent was not racist.

R186 beat me to it. No intent means no malice, but doesn't mean he's not an embarrassing idiot. Did he grow up in a white bubble? Did he never have any black or Asian friends, work colleagues or students? If his POC friends (or POC students) were at this party - would he still dare to arrive at a party, wearing black-face right in front of them? He even said himself that he "SHOULD have known better". That is, he admitted he was a moron.

I've never had professional teachers at my school parade around in black-face, or e.g. pull their eyes into 'slanted slits' with tape, to imitate e.g. Asian Mulan. It's just an idiotic thing to do, especially for people who are employed to be role models in charge of school education.

I would expect it from a careless, reckless Instagrammer, doing pranks for notoriety, but not from a responsible teacher in full-time employment.

I've long thought Trudeau was kind of an idiot, and now I feel almost sorry for him, probably because I think he's an idiot.

Yes, he's mildly-attractive dumb idiot who behaves like Britney Spears.

WE don't Britney Spears leading the country.

The mood on social media is clearly shifting in Trudeau's favour. People seem to be recongizing what this is, a blatant attempt to brand him as a racist after highlighting Scheer's misogyny and homophobia. The difference is Trudeau is an idiot but not racist while Scheer is a woman hating fag loather.

Justin needs to get Sophie pregnant pronto.

An impending birth would help sway voters

She's only 44, she can squeeze one more out.

Thank God he didn't dress up as a woman!!!!!!

This is nothing. Who cares.

He is still light years better than any conservative aka shady and corrupt.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau apologized again on Thursday for wearing blackface in three separate incidents and said he did not know how many times he had put on racist makeup.

Trudeau declined to definitively say whether there were more instances of him wearing dark makeup. He did not remember each instance, he said, because his privilege gave him a blind spot on the issue.

Lol. What's his excuse for his last one... the video isn't an "Aladdin costume party"

People should boycott these cosmetic companies making all this “blackface” and “brownface” makeup.

Is this semi-blackface?

R198. Exactly, where do we draw the line?

I will vote for him regardless because the alternative is just that much worse. A man (Scheer) that openly cavorts with white supremacists versus an idiotic costume the choice is easy.

Why does one choose a "costume" of another race and culture R200? Yeah, men dress as women sometimes and people did once like to dress up like a native. But Cher was making a fashion statement and none of us were born then. Trudeau comes from the most sensitive of families. Arrogant white mentally ill French Canadian private wealth sensitive families. He's got a fetish at the very least. He likes to dress like a fag too for gay pride parades. He's absolutely your vote, but you are voting for your MP, who hopefully is a liberal? Canadians have rep by pop - with some gerrymandering of ridings. But no one casts a vote for the actual prime minister. Parliament is not some fucked up electoral college winner takes it all system. Trudeau still has a small chance to form a minority government. If he does, he must resign as leader within the first two years. Regardless his career as Prime Minister is over. For now.

[quote] But Cher was making a fashion statement and none of us were born then.

You do realize the average age of Dataloungers is 85.

How can you tell? That could be anyone. If he fessed up, he's dumber than Trump.

I fear this is what the Russiapublicans have been digging-up on all the Dem candidates. Going through their pasts back to kindergarten looking for kompromat.

I think "Pocahontas" is just the beginning for Warren. They are trying to establish a pattern of dishonesty. Then *WHAM* they'll haul out the really bad stuff.

I don’t understand this compulsion to don black face. All these reports lately of middle-age guys who did this in their youth. WTH? I’m about the same age as Trudeau and I never once had even a thought of wearing black face for a “costume” because, well, who the fuck would think that’s ok on any level? It’s not like these guys grew up in the 1800s, or even the 1950s, where racism was common and sickly acceptable. They were born in the ‘70s, and still they thought it a great idea to wear black face. Seriously, WTF?

[quote]If he fessed up, he's dumber than Trump.

At least make an attempt to read the linked articles or google this shit.

Yes he confessed. Twice. Live press conference. The whole shebang.

Which is worse - wearing black face at least three times almost into your thirties or waiting for your field trip bus in front of the Washington Monument and not displaying the appropriate facial expressions when confronted by hostile adults as a teenager? Which person is the bigger racist?

R204, Really, you think schoolmarm looking Warren has anything that embarrassing? I think they shot their load with Pocahontas.

R205, Halloween *used* to be an occasion to be edgy costume wise. No more.

What's the problem here, boys?

Where did R205 mention Halloween, R209? What's edgy about pretending to be a black man or woman? You know it will always be a stereotype. Most of us would be embarrassed by what white people say or do when dressed as black people. Or brown people. Even Designing Women freaked when Suzanne came in blackface to do their Supreme's number! It was funny because it was true. Insensitivity (and outrage) is not new. Folk used to have a bit more fun with it. I'm black and I AM offended by Trudeau. Not everyone who put on the "costume" is a racist. But a better man would think better of it. I sure wouldn't cancel him given the alternatives, but he's not some liberal savior. He's an elitist and he loves to hang with people who love and compliment his ass = gays and democracy deprived Americans, brown skinned oligarchs and David Geffen. Trudeau was caught in his mockery of natives and there's no patriotic excuse for Lavalin. About the blackface, come to think of it....Trudeau is a jerk. We all know a guy like this. He is hurt by these accusations.

Funny thing that most new immigrants and most all brown people in Canada vote conservative anyway. Because they protect "religion" and dog whistle about evil homos and abortion and the darkest races.

Trudeau should be mortified. About his own damn self.

I just assumed that these were Halloween costumes. Why tf would you dress up otherwise? I'm not condoning it, I was merely trying to explain a possible whitebro reasoning/excuse. Most of the people who got blasted for blackface in the past few years were getting roasted for Halloween costumes. And back in the not so distant past, Halloween was a time when people dressed up as Indians, Arabs etc.

Thank you r211.

Trudeau has always been a spoiled pretty boy of little substance. Why the gays here thirst for him so desperately, I’ll never know.

It’s increasingly clear that he’s always been this way. Trudeau comes across as your typical BMOC type who would’ve made fun of us “f*gs” in high school just as easily as he wore blackface at the talent show. Just no real regard for people who aren’t like him. His wokeness is opportunistic lipsevice, nothing more.

Should he have done this? NO. But it was almost 20 years ago. And he's pretty decent to minorities. It's not like it's some fucking repug/conservative who hates minorities

I'm sure Trudeau isn't the worst racist who ever lived and yeah he's better than Trump but this shows how stupid he is. At the very least he was too dumb to realise that in the 2000s most people don't consider blackface appropriate and it will come back to haunt you if you're planning to go into politics. I think Canada deserves better than this in a leader.

I'm sure Trudeau isn't the worst racist who ever lived and yeah he's better than Trump but this shows how stupid he is. At the very least he was too dumb to realise that in the 2000s most people don't consider blackface appropriate and it will come back to haunt you if you're planning to go into politics. I think Canada deserves better than this in a leader.

So what if he wanted to paint his face black 20 years ago? WHO CARES!

So what if he wanted to paint his face black 20 years ago? WHO CARES!

A lot of people care, you fool in CAPS. Do you understand what blackface is?

[quote] Trudeau comes across as your typical BMOC type who would’ve made fun of us “f*gs” in high school just as easily as he wore blackface at the talent show.

That's going to be the next video to drop. Just wait.

[quote]A man (Scheer) that openly cavorts with white supremacists versus an idiotic costume the choice is easy.

Exactly, and anyone who says Trudeau is worse because he wore brownface for a sheik costume in 2001 is trolling.

[quote]A man (Scheer) that openly cavorts with white supremacists versus an idiotic costume the choice is easy.

Exactly, and anyone who says Trudeau is worse because he wore brownface for a sheik costume in 2001 is trolling.

What's important is that he is a good prime minister, not what he did two decades ago at some party.

[quote]And he's pretty decent to minorities.

Ask First Nations people what they think about Trudeau and then get back to us.

[quote] Ask First Nations people what they think about Trudeau and then get back to us.

I'm sure Scheer will treat them with dignity and respect when he isn't hanging out with white supremacists

so can NO ONE dress like a indian and go brown face and put on war paint because it will offend the american indian now? i find it "interesting" that their is such outrage and ONLY? outrage when it's blackface and against black people (the slavery past) and yet not much to do about the american indian who was LITERALLY wiped out nearly in genocide AND their land stolen from them and who are STILL STILL suffering, unemployment, alcoholism, no education, still living on reservations many of them and so on...

[Quote] I think Canada deserves better than this in a leader.

Absolutely. But I thought the choice is between him and someone worse, atm. On the bright side, he has this hanging over his head for-fucking-ever so if he wins he has to do better FOREVER.

I kind of like a politician with his tail between his legs.

Um 226 it is considered offensive to dress up like a Native American.

Fuckin Americans...everything is about racism. Poor taste, yes....racism no. How come Nun and Priest costumes are still acceptable? ..I find this offensive....but nobody seems to be concerned with that

[quote]so can NO ONE dress like a indian and go brown face and put on war paint because it will offend the american indian now?

We're 👏talking 👏about👏 blackface 👏today,👏 troll!

And it has always been offensive to do that to Native Americans as well.

R230.. so does that go for anyone adults to children dressing up like a indian for halloween or a costume party? who knew children for decades were racist ON PURPOSE when they dressed like a indian! RIDICULOUS! the idea that people cannot separate differences, nuances, context, critical thinking and false equivalency!..

I will say that instead of being "offended by someone dressing like a indian for fun, " the government should DO something FOR the american indian! otherwise it's all "wringing one's hands" mentality...

Is it true that this story was even on MSNBSC tonight?

This will all blow over. Scheer has the charisma of a wet paper bag.

The conservatives have finally figured out how to weaponize SJW’s cancel culture mob mentality and use it against them. As much as I hate them, I applaud them for their craftiness. I guarantee you that the conservatives are going to use this to their benefit politically. This is only the beginning, folks.

R213, I've never seen any evidence that Trudeau has ever been anti-gay.

He has always supported pro-gay causes, long before he was Prime Minister. And he appointed the first 2 openly-gay cabinet ministers, Scott Brison & Seamus O'Reagan.

Trudeau has been so pro-gay he's even been labelled gay by his right-wing opponents.

[quote] Man at party where Trudeau wore brownface says costume ‘stood out’ compared to others

[quote]Others who attended the 2001 "Arabian Nights"-themed party where Justin Trudeau was pictured in brownface say it wasn't meant to offend.

Me and my bitches.

A psychiatrist would be able to tell us why this troubled man has this long-held need to be someone else.

I think he's simultaneously desperately seeking attention along with trying to hide.

You live by woke, cancel culture, then you die by woke, cancel culture. Bye bye, Justin!

R234 Because the best thing they have going for them is they will never, EVER have it used against themselves?

One of the Sikh men who posed with Trudeau in the Aladdin costume said it wasn't racist, he didn't see it at racist then or now, and will still be voting Liberal. Yet he's only been interviewed once, while Scheer is all over the news pontificating on this.

R242 If Scheer and Trump can get away with not apologizing for the egregious things they say and do, it’s clear to me that cancel culture can’t be used against Repugs. They’re immune to it because of how disgusting they are, they know they’re racist/sexist/homophobic, they wear it like a badge of honor.

R243 when Scheer was asked if he should apologize for his anti-gay marriage rant fro 2005 he said the news conference wasn't about him but Trudeau's racism, I can't believe there wasn't a chorus of laughter.

R240 said it all.

R242, that Sikh man is cancelled now.

[quote]Trudeau has always been a spoiled pretty boy of little substance. Why the gays here thirst for him so desperately, I’ll never know.

Gay men lusting after pretty boys of little substance is new to you? Is this your first time on DL?

[quote]I've never seen any evidence that Trudeau has ever been anti-gay.

A week ago we never had evidence of Trudeau in blackface three different time but here we are.

R248's white privilege is showing. One time it was brown face.

And the other two times it was blackface. What your point? Your gotcha game is WEAK.

Are you saying black face is worse than brown face? Is there a hierarchy of face paint offensiveness?

This is worse because he didn't reveal his racism. At least with Trump you know it.

Personally, I don’t think he’s a racist, and I think everyone has gone too far with the “cultural appropriation” stuff.

However, I think the mansplaining and double standards here are notable.

So while Trudeau has apologized and been very honest about the reality of his mistake, this morning Scheer refused to apologize for comparing gay people to dogs. He also effectively admitted that his campaign has been sitting on these photos for some time, likely waiting for the election. So we now know that it was the conservatives that gave the photos to the press.

What is the big deal about this black face thing? Doesn't bother me, I would gladly vote to re-elect Trudeau or Ralph Northam.

Brown people who attended the party, and other brown people in general don't seem to care:

Agreed, R244 & R254.

Scheer has refused to apologize for comparing Gay marriage to dogs.

Canadian version of Rick Santorum.

Trudeau says that the short video of him in blackface was filmed on costume day for instructors at a whitewater rafting operation in Quebec where he worked in the summer. He guesses it was made between ‘92 and ’94 when he was between 21 and 23 years old. I wonder who he was supposed to be. Is this his very wrong headed way of showing support for racial minorities?

If Al Jolson's blackface from the 1930s is racist why is Justin Trudeau doing black or brown face in the 2000s okay? I was in 2001 and it was not an okay normal thing to do. His racism could just be one more thing he's lying about.

I was 20 in 2001

It's not that it was okay, it's that what the majority of Trudeau's racial minority supporters are posting on Twitter this week is that his long-term actions and commitment in his policies to racial equality make him a better leader than Scheer & the untrustworthy views of Conservatives.

What commitments? He’s continually broken his promises to First Nations people. His government limited the number of Haitian refugees allowed to come into the country. What this shows is he’s just another empty suit.

There have to be some limits under all governments, R262. And of course some of his promises weren't perfectly fulfilled, but are you claiming life will be better under the Conservatives?

R239, that’s a good observation.

I don’t think he was being racist or malicious, but it’s weird.

It’s also like Joe Biden’s touchy-feely way with women. If he’s the best thing on offer, I’ll vote for him. But it’s not exactly right, either.

R239, remember that Trudeau represents a multicultural riding in Montreal and that he and many other leaders who represent those districts often dress up & dance at those cultural events.

Yes, it’s normal in that riding to dress up like your constituents.

They like it.

A man who attended the event where Justin Trudeau was seen in brownface is defending the Liberal Leader.

We must wear turbans in solidarity.

Erin Kelly or Advanced Symbolics, said that the Liberals lost 25 seats overnight. But there has been a bit of a rebound today. Singh is the one who most benefits here. Polly uses artificial intelligence to track social media and can create a poll of about 300,000 samples in a few hours. Erin says we won't know until mid next week if this issue does lasting damage. The liberals are still in a position to win a minority government as the constituents most upset by Trudeau's photos are in Alberta and BC, not areas where the Liberals win seats to begin with. It's a bit reassuring - if you like Polly.

The party still has time before the election to replace Trudeau. There's no excuse not to do so immediately. They could win with someone new.

Trudeau is still a help to his party in many areas, particularly Quebec.

And it would be unprecedented to replace a leader halfway through an election.

Has there been of long list of Canadian leaders in an election revealed to have worn blackface before this?

He should resign once Andrew Scheer resigns for refusing to apologize for his homophobic remarks.

[quote] Is this his very wrong headed way of showing support for racial minorities?

Please tell me you're joking.

R274 Justin supports racial minorities by dressing up as them. It's his special way taught him by his Mom to support racial minorities.

LIbs still way ahead of the NDP in Ontario in today's new poll, and only a few points behind the Cons:

Ontario:

CONSERVATIVE: 38%

LIBERAL: 34%

NDP: 14%

GREEN: 11%

PEOPLE'S: 2%

[Campaign Research / September 19, 2019 ]

The country is still clubbing baby seals. Total trash

Mainstreet Research / September 19, 2019

LIBERAL: 36.8%

CONSERVATIVE: 34.2%

NDP: 10.1%

GREEN: 9.8%

BQ: 4.7%

PEOPLE'S: 3.7%

[quote] Erin Kelly or Advanced Symbolics, said that the Liberals lost 25 seats overnight.

That is concerning

[quote] I will vote for him regardless because the alternative is just that much worse. A man (Scheer) that openly cavorts with white supremacists versus an idiotic costume the choice is easy.

Well according to Nik Nanos, the Conservatives are the only party that keeps GAINING support. While the Liberals are stuck moving nowhere, the Conservatives (according to his polling) keep increasing their support. A year ago everyone said Trudeau was unbeatable. Not anymore.

And Trump could get re-elected with all his baggage. What;s wrong with this picture?

R279, yes, Nanos shows an increase in support for the Conservatives.

But as you can see, Mainstreet shows the Liberals still doing well. And I think Leger does, too.

Unthinkable that Trudeau popularity could take such a slide in a year;s time

Canadians don't care about Blackface.

I guess they have FGM as well.

[quote] Canadians don't care about Blackface.

The polls show Andrew Scheer BEATING Justin Trudeau without lifting a finger

R283, I just posted some polling above that shows the opposite.

Well which is it? Libs ahead or behind the Cons?

R285, the polling in Canada is like the polling in the U.S. with Trump & the Dems -- it's going to vary from week to week depending on the pollster and the events in the news.

We won't know until Election Day.

We're in a massive state of confusion. Is darling Justin a saint? . . . or a sinner?

I think Libs' support in Quebec and Ontario will remain solid enough to get a minority. Scheer is an absolutely uninspired leader.

R288 a new poll from Campaign research shows the Conservatives AHEAD of the Liberals by 5 point in Ontario

And remember, Conservatives won a majority in 2011 WITHOUT Quebec

What about CBC's Canada Poll Tracker everyone?

R289, yeah, one poll shows the Cons 4 points ahead in Ontario.

And remember that in 2011, the Libs had their worst result in 150 years, so the Cons were only able to win a majority without Quebec because the NDP finished ahead of the Libs. That's not likely to happen this year.

The Libs are 1st in Quebec in 2019, and the NDP are nearly finished there.

R291 not unless progressives stay home, allowing the CONS to win by default. Happened to Clinton.

Talking heads on the media political shows keep PUSHING Jagmeet Singh saying "How wonderful" his response was, and how great his campaign is going, and how great public speaker he is.

So it is almost like the media wants to push Jagmeet, so he can split the vote and allow Scheer to win.

I don't mind Singh, but I'm getting the impression he's not the good speaker I thought he was. He says, "very, very," "massive" and a few other words over and over. Listen for it. He's a smart guy, but not always sounding very professional. I don't know why he's been slamming Trudeau so much, (aside from the blackface, that I get), you'd think he'd attack Scheer more.

CBC is talking about gun control and the gun lobby. Here's Michelle Rempel receiving a gift from a gun lobbyist. Spread it around.

R295 that is NOT going to move votes. Right the ballot box question is - Does Justin Trudeau deserve re-election to represent Canada on the world stage

After the "blackface" picture how can anyone vote for someone like that to represent Canada internationally

That is why I think he will lose, if he is the ballot box question.

I know, R296, but the fact is that most Canadians want an assault rifle ban, the lobby is pushing back with the Cons in their corner. There's an upcoming Fifth Estate about the issue, some Canadians may be swayed by the gun issue.

I think Singh is attacking Trudeau because he's hoping to sway some disillusioned left Libs to vote NDP. He's not likely to draw many votes from Cons, and may fear that attacking Scheer for his regressive statements and policies may make encourage strategic voting for the Libs.

Oh please ....... Must we?

I can't believe that Canadians are willing to vote for an MP from Regina. Yes, I know he's from Ottawa, but really? A PM from Saskatchewan? C'mon Ontario, BC, Quebec, Saskatchewan is deplorable central, as bad as Alberta. I'm pissed at Trudeau, but PM Scheer? We can't let that happen.

The problem with the "blackface" pictures of Mr Tredeou is that he seemed to enjoy himself when they were taken.

[quote]The party still has time before the election to replace Trudeau. There's no excuse not to do so immediately. They could win with someone new.

You must be joking.

[quote]R274 wrote "Please tell me you're joking."

I see. So we don't have any reports of him saying racial slurs, making fun of or mistreating racial minorities (eg. coworkers), sympathizing with white supremacists. He chose people of colour to be his ministers. He just lets his racist freak flag fly by wearing blackface or brownface. That totally makes sense.

R301 Of course he was enjoying himself.

He was either drunk on all those multiple occasions or —as R39 is suggesting— this childish man has a continuing psychological need to dress up as other identities.

Wasn't 'blackface' an issue not because white people put black paint on their face, but instead, it was about black people not being able to play black characters, and as such were played by white people?

Sikhs are the most pious and humorless people around.

They always have a stick up their butt and are rather arrogant ('we're the good sort of Indian!).

I bet the Sikhs aren't as piously humorless as America's Virtue-Signallers.

They're the most sanctimonious sect on the planet.

The only people who care about this painted face fiasco are self-important white SJWs.

The people I work with who are not white don't give two shits. Many are still voting Lib and some are still voting CPC. None are voting NDP.

The 22 year old white female temp in the office was in LITERAL TEARS over Trudeau's painted face. She's voting NDP to stand in solidarity with VISIBLE minorities.

When I asked if she's worried about vote splitting and anti-immigrant and anti-gay Scheer gaining power, she stared at me slack jawed and didn't seem to understand what I was talking about.

She thinks you should be cancelled, R308. Your question was literal violence. Expect a call from HR next week.

You can give her whatever expression on her face that you want, r308, since she's imaginary.

^^^Svend Robinson

I guess he talked his way out of this. Just shows what a good set of pectoral muscles will do.

[quote]Ask First Nations people what they think about Trudeau and then get back to us.

The people who don't have to pay income tax and get a living wage for their entire life?

I'm sure they're furious.

Maybe R313 but have you seen where they live? No clean water, their land is still being taken away for pipelines and development, getting screwed over in natural resource rights negotiations. Most reserves are like third world countries. Oddly enough Canada sends hundreds of millions to third world countries but bitches and complains anytime Indigenous people ask for money.

[quote]have you seen where they live? No clean water, their land is still being taken away for pipelines and development, getting screwed over in natural resource rights negotiations. Most reserves are like third world countries.

Most don't live on reserves and in fact could be your next door neighbour.

Years ago I worked at a high end clothing store in Ottawa. We'd often get customers who'd spend hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars in one visit. When it came time to ring up the sale they whipped out their Indian status cards and we deducted the sales tax.

[quote]but have you seen where they live?

Yup.

[quote]Oddly enough Canada sends hundreds of millions to third world countries but bitches and complains anytime Indigenous people ask for money.

They already receive money. The bands control the money. The money isn't distributed fairly and they put no money back into their community. They have control over their own lands but don't establish any policies or infrastructure because it's easier for people to not have to follow rules.

On a per-capita basis government spending on Indigenous persons significantly exceeds that spent on other Canadians.

I think it’s hilarious that both the conservatives and the “liberals” want to destroy the environment for profit and people are still willing to defend it

R317: From the right wing Fraser Institute, the Heritage Foundation for Canada. Get real sources, R317 and don't come back here until you do.

Thank you R319.

The fucking Frasier Institute. Seriously.

R317...

R317...

R316...

[quote] The only people who care about this painted face fiasco are self-important white SJWs.

Yes, and Trudeau positioned himself as the most self-important white SJWs of all Hence the present fiasco. It's not the blackface itself, it's the sheer hypocrisy. This is equivalent to a far right wing preacher being caught with a rentboy.

R324 thinks this happened last week, not years ago.

R324...

He has a beautiful ass and a pretty mouth. I forgive him!

R324 has it right

His hypocrisy was only exposed this week, R325.

[quote]^^^Svend Robinson

It will be interesting to see whether this help's Svend's chances of a comeback in British Columbia.

He's running for the NDP against a cute Liberal MP in Burnaby.

And people like you R329 are acting like he's been burning crosses for decades.

[quote] It will be interesting to see whether this help's Svend's chances of a comeback in British Columbia.

[quote] He's running for the NDP against a cute Liberal MP in Burnaby.

So they'll vote for a jewel thief instead of the Liberal incumbent?

Here's a site that shows how the ridings across Canada are leaning.

[quote] acting like he's been burning crosses for decades.

Ignorant comparison.

[quote]Wasn't 'blackface' an issue not because white people put black paint on their face, but instead, it was about black people not being able to play black characters, and as such were played by white people?

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not but I'll pretend you are.

First: Black people were able to play black characters, producers just didn't want them and they didn't think audiences wanted them either. In the early 1900s several black films were released featuring black actors not wearing black face. Prior to that, in the theater, it's a little confusing and dicey.

Second: As a matter of fact at one point, when any black person wanted to participate in the theater it was thought that they still had to wear blackface. Yes, black people were forced to wear blackface even if they were already black because the thinking at the time was that they had to look like "funny" caricatures.

Third: Characters in blackface weren't just playing "black" characters, they were also playing racist stereotypes of black characters.

Frank Graves of Ekos hints in a new tweet a few hours ago that his polling shows that the Conservatives have shot up, at the expense of the Liberals who have fallen like a rock. And this is a pollster that leans Liberal.

Four weeks is not enough time to turn this around - For Justin Trudeau IT'S OVER

Sorry but we have to face reality

Four weeks is also a lifetime in a politics and things can change again.

I agree with you that the Conservatives may win, but without knowing how the debates will go and the rest of the campaign, it's too early to tell.

I hope you're right, R337, but who really pays attention to debates? I don't think the general public cares. I'm so stressed out, I just want this to be over already.

R337 Trudeau needs to gain 7 points in 4 weeks to win a majority - I agree with R338 The debates are meaningless

While many Canadians say they don't think Trudeau a racist, the seed is now implanted into people with the thinking "Do we want a PM to represent us on the world stage after being seen in Blackface?" - That is what it is going to come down to, And if the ballot box issue is on that question, Trudeau loses.

If the Libs lose, then they need to ditch Trudeau and start fresh. I'm worried that he's going to be seen as damaged goods. They need to start focusing on 2023 and rebuilding.

R340 Conservatives are masters at manipulating the media and creating narratives - If they win, they'll be in power for at least ten years.

Scheer has zero, possibly negative, appeal as a leader. Between holding Quebec and most of Ontario, the Libs should squeak by with a minority.

Possibly, but as long as the Libs finish at least 2nd, and ahead of the NDP, they will be in a good position to rebuild.

The Libs were much worse off in the 2011 Election when Ignatieff dropped them to 3rd place. That probably won't happen here.

And if Trudeau can hang onto the Quebec seats, that will also give the Liberals something going forward.

[quote] Between holding Quebec and most of Ontario, the Libs should squeak by with a minority.

Frank Graves of Ekos is polling only in Ontario, and he has just hinted in a tweet Liberal are falling like a rock

Maybe not, R341. People will tire of Scheer. He's completely unlikable and will start to ruin the country the way Ford has ruined Ontario. I don't know who the Libs have in mind to replace Trudeau, (and you know the upper echelon of the party has already thought about this), but it'd better be someone solid.

A Lib leadership race could be very interesting. I never thought I'd say this, but I think they'd best ditch Trudeau if he loses. If he wins, then things could be different - they could "repackage" him as someone who did something stupid, rose above, tried to make amends etc... I like Freeland, but she lacks sparkle and you know the Cons will come at her because of her grandfather.

[quote] People will tire of Scheer. He's completely unlikable and will start to ruin the country the way Ford has ruined Ontario.

Before blackface came out, Scheer was rising in CTV/Nanos polls, despite all of videos Liberals were releasing on his candidates. Nanos said when Scheer starting calling Trudeau a liar that just a chord with voters who started to flock to him.

If the Governor, Lieutenant Governor and the Attorney General of VA were conservative they would have been forced out but because they are liberal they were not. It's funny the libs are given a pass but the conservatives aren't?

People have already tired of Scheer, which is why the Cons won't win.

To some voters, wet cardboard Scheer is seen as the antidote to theatrical Trudeau. People tire of drama queens.

I know, R346, but let him try and lead the country for a few years if the Cons get in. People will tire of him quickly. Trudeau had a lot of "baggage" (much of it untrue or exaggerated - SNC, border crisis, Carbon Tax etc...) the blackface scandal made things worse.

[quote] People have already tired of Scheer, which is why the Cons won't win.

People said that about Stephen Harper and he was PM for ten years.

I'm going to say something Politically Incorrect and probably viewed as racist in itself: French Quebecois have all the Cultural sensitivity and awareness of a 1970's Archie Bunker trying to break bread with his Jewish son- in-law. In other words, none. No one seems to acknowledge that before his Political dalliance Trudeau spent many of his formative years in the Cloistered Vacuum that is Quebec- and if you need to understand what I'm talking about, just qatch any Celine Dion Interview pre her Las Vegas days, *Shudder*. In all likelihood, Trudeau probably thought everytime he put on blackface he was joining a brotherhood- I truly feel such was his naivite.

If you don't believe me, let me leave you with this little gem: When I finally went back to visit my French Canadian friend, an exchange student who hails from Montreal ( and I who hail from N.C.) I exclaimed at the bizarre visage of seeing the Colonel's " Poulet Frit a la Kentucky" in the delightful city, her casual francophone remark was, "Ah, you have them too??"

Yes. The French are that Oblique.

R351, yes, Harper was in power for long than expected but remember that he had the advantage of going up against the Liberals when they were in their weakest position in history.

Who frigging cares?

There's some underlying low self-esteem here: "Who would darken their skin if it was white?'

Nik Nanos says his polling shows the Conservative are continuing to widen their lead into majority territory while the Liberal are falling like a rock

For Justin Trudeau - IT'S OVER

Yes, we know what Nik Nanos says. You've posted it several times.

That's not what all the other pollsters are saying, and there's a month left.

CBC's poll tracker, as of this morning, shows:

CON: 34.8 (+0.1)

LIB: 33.8 (-0.3)

Not exactly falling like a rock.

Don't panic, but start swimming.

[quote] Not exactly falling like a rock.

that hasn't been updated to include the new Ekos and Nanos numbers, when it does you will see the shift

The headline out of CTV is that the Liberal are falling like a rock, based on new Nanos polling

Trudeau no longer attractive. Racism is such a turn-off. But think of the alternative, Canada. Do you really want Scheer?

Doing black face once in a college skit wouldn't be an issue. What's the count now? Three times and he doesn't remember how many total. That's now a trend. And not a good one.

Daddy's dead, his mother is a world famous whore with bipolar disease and his little brother died in an avalanche. Margaret labelled Justin, "her little prince." Hmm. Justin wants to be an actor. Ever since that over the top eulogy, he's been acting like a Prime Minister. BUT - he most enjoys dressing up, makeup, dancing and parades!

Justin's a racist douchebag. He's going down.

There has got to be some dirt on Scheer. Something that will stick, since so far his racisim and homophobia hasn't. Maybe the stuff about his marriage will finally come out.

R365, what's the story on Scheer's marriage?

I remember a year ago here there was some supposed 'political insider' who claimed that we would be hearing a bombshell about Scheer by the time of the Canadian Election, but it doesn't seem to have happened yet.

Yeah I love how all the liberals are excusing him on this one.

[quote] Trudeau no longer attractive. Racism is such a turn-off.

Agree.

R347: Yes, isn't it funny how liberals, who's policies help ethnic and racial minorities, are given the benefit of the doubt, and rightfully so, while conservatives, who HATE minorities and actively hurt them, rightfully deserve none? How funny.

R356: I'm sure you've had an erection for days since this broke, Justin Trudeau Concern Troll. I'd take care of that sooner rather than later, could cause heart problems, given your obesity. Best get that picture of Scheer in a jockstrap out and rub one out to it. It'll be good for your health.

Pandering to then is not "helping" them, R369.

All the pics were public knowledge for decades- but now they 'surface'?

I think David Akin knew for sometime about them, R371. When the Liberals started going after Scheer for his homophobic remarks, Akin tweeted something vague about the Cons having stuff on the Liberals. I can't remember exactly what he said but I read it as a threat of sorts.

For the record, I don’t think Trudeau is hot.

If someone dresses in blackface, or like someone from another culture to look like a particular character or person, it is nor racist. It is trying hard to look like that person. If o want to dress up as Diana Ross and keep my skin white and hair blond/straight, no one will know who I am dressing up as.

If someone dresses up as a black thug, a Pakistani gas station attendant, an Asian manicurist, or any other racial stereotype, then yes, he is being racist.

People have to get some common sense and some thicker skin.

[quote]There has got to be some dirt on Scheer. Something that will stick, since so far his racisim and homophobia hasn't. Maybe the stuff about his marriage will finally come out.

Could you tell us what the stuff about Scheer's marriage is?

Here you go R319:

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2019/03/19/news/trudeau-government-budget-proposes-billions-improve-living-conditions-indigenous

https://www.canada.ca/en/crown-indigenous-relations-northern-affairs/news/2019/04/budget-2019-advancing-reconciliation-with-indigenous-peoples0.html

https://www.afn.ca/2019/03/22/assembly-of-first-nations-bulletin-federal-budget-2019/ ("Investments over the last four budgets total more than $21 billion, which is four times what the Kelowna Accord committed to in 2006")

Whatever you might think of the Fraser Institute's agenda they were using government statistics for their study.

Dammit...

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2019/03/19/news/trudeau-government-budget-proposes-billions-improve-living-conditions-indigenous

https://www.canada.ca/en/crown-indigenous-relations-northern-affairs/news/2019/04/budget-2019-advancing-reconciliation-with-indigenous-peoples0.html

https://www.afn.ca/2019/03/22/assembly-of-first-nations-bulletin-federal-budget-2019/

Trudeau's voting constituenvy don't care about a misstep like this. They have relatives starving in India that they want to get into Canada. Their issues are life and death.

How does Trudeau get them into Canada, R377?

Bump for R374

Re-bump for R374.

What’s the T, mawma?!?

Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau has been slammed for changing his profile picture on Twitter to show him talking to a black person.

42% of Canadians polled say the pictures don't bother them, 34% says we need to move on - only 24% say this has affected their vote and they won't vote for Trudeau

Even after this he's still a million times better than that orange turd you guys call president.

I think it's disgusting that the cons would use cheap tricks like this, common south of the border. They're getting closer and closer to the repugs in America. Yet another reason to vote NDP or Liberal.

R371 Rebel Media tactics. Just like the Repugs south of the border.

Trump is the white party while Trudeau is non-white party. Nobody is changing their vote over superficial PC stuff.

He changed the picture weeks ago, R381.

He changed the picture weeks ago, R381.

R381 see R388. More lies from Rebel Media interns. Why am I not surprised. They are desperate to smear Trudeau. The blackface scandal didn't pan out. Wonder what they will come up with next.

Trudeau changed his Spotify to feature this jam

Yeah, R388. I think Trudeau has had that profile pic of talking to that person since the campaign started. It's been up for a while.

[quote] Trudeau is non-white party

Considering that Canada is 90% white, R386, that's not a very optimistic label to pin on him.

[quote]Considering that Canada is 90% white

78% white.

The hypocrisy exposed here is the same hypocrisy of all middle class liberal whiteys. This is why it will be "forgotten" very, very soon, and Trudeau will be put in office again, even if he does much worse. He's a living breathing totem of whitey middle class bullshit, to condemn him is to condemn themselves.

Trudeau isn't middle class. He comes from a wealthy family.

Chantal Hébert says in her column today that Trudeau's support in Quebec is holding up and he's still #1:

r394

This has nothing to do with class, it's the same reason Obama was elected, because Oprah thought he was cute and all the white women she rules, voted for him.

If he was ugly he'd be out. He punched a woman and got away with it, because other women thought he was cute.

The NDP is strong in this thread.

If giving a heartfelt eulogy of Fidel didn't bring him down I don't see how this will. He's indifferent to me, can't he like be challenged by someone from his party or what? Not long ago conservatives were a laughing stock in Canada.

R399 longs for the days of Stephen Harper.

Nudes is it? I thought that would have helped him. Must have revealed extreme tiny meat.

R397 Fuck off deplorable. Your trolling game is terrible.

Search #mabelle on Twitter for some rumors about Scheer's marriage, R374. I find it hard to believe that anyone aside from his cornfed wife would want to sleep with him but apparently some Ottawa famous P.I. and some insiders have dirt.

R399, the conservatives are still a joke, including the fat fundie Scheer. The guy was admittedly out negotiated by a toddler so why anyone thinks he could be PM is beyond me.

Here's Scheer and his wife.

Hilarious how DL will give a pass to terrible behavior like this. Fucking hypocrites.

What terrible behavior R405? He wore make-up at some costume parties. Big fucking deal.

[quote]Here's Scheer and his wife

She's GHASTLY!

They are Fatty Fat McFats!

[quote] He wore make-up at some costume parties. Big fucking deal.

Megyn Kelly said the same thing -- and lost her job.

She's one ugly woman, that's for sure, she's basically, she's a big boned brood mare. He's fat and homely too. None of that matters though, especially because he's a religious loon and homophobe who can't be trusted. Even his plans for tax rebates are a bunch of lies.

Oh, dear. I just read my post. Take out the second "she's."

That'll teach me for posting after I worked all night.

Scheer & his wife are the Canadian version of Rick Santorum & his family.

The Scheers are Christian fundies who have already had 5 or 6 kids.

Oh my. Mrs. Scheer needs a stylist.

More blackface pics?

Trudeau must release nude photos to get back on top!

Only Emmanuel Macron gets to see those, R415.

Oh wow, she's a disaster in the pic at R413. Everything is wrong. Her hair is awful, the dress she's wearing looks cheap and enhances how boxy she is. Terrible look. They're a very bland looking couple, and I wouldn't be surprised if they keep Mrs. Scheer looking that way in hopes of "appealing" to the "regular" people. A stylish, well-dressed woman would invoke the "elites" and ruin the Con brand. They'll try and keep her down to earth to appeal to the conservative base.

Mila Mulroney was stylish. Sexy vixen. She was Putin's first wife.

Tories still lead, though Liberals regain some lost ground

Sep 24, 2019

The Liberals have halted their slide and regained some ground with voters lost after the emergence of images of leader Justin Trudeau wearing brownface and blackface last week, according to new polling numbers from Mainstreet Research.

Conservatives: 35.9

Liberals: 34.4

NDP: 11.2

Green: 9.6

The Conservatives of today are regressive and right wing, they're not the Progressive Cons of yesteryear, R418.

Maybe the bleeding has stopped.

Looks like lots of Canadians agree, R421. This rally apparently was so big, they had to move it outdoors.

Any people of color at the rally?

Liberals rise to 2-point lead in the latest Nanos nightly tracking; Trudeau leads Scheer by 7 points in Preferred Prime Minister poll:

Liberals: 36%

Conservatives: 34%

NDP: 15%

Greens: 10%

Bloc Québécois: 5%

People’s Party: 2%

Scheer really pissed off Quebec voters yesterday by saying when he becomes PM he will investigate SNC. And he said that in Quebec.

A turn around, finally.

And in a new Quebec poll today for the riding of Laurier-Sainte Marie, the Liberal star candidate, environmentalist Steven Guilbeault, is ahead.

This is a riding the Liberals haven't held in 30 years, so it would be a big deal if they win it.

New ABACUS poll backs up the Nanos poll and shows the Liberals back in the lead:

LIBERAL 35% (+3)

CONSERVATIVE 33% (-1)

NDP 15% (NC)

GREEN 10% (NC)

BQ 5% (+1)

PEOPLE'S 2% (NC)

Basically if you live in Ontario and you want to stop the conservatives you have to vote Liberal EXCEPT in London-Fanshawe, Hamilton Centre, Hamilton Mountain, Windsor-Tecumseh and Essex where you should vote NDP.