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Dem donor Ed Buck arrested after third man overdoses at his LA home

Prominent Democratic donor Ed Buck was reportedly arrested Tuesday after another man overdosed on methamphetamine at his California apartment.

Buck was charged with maintaining a drug house at his West Hollywood address and accused of supplying meth last Wednesday to a 37-year-old man who overdosed, but survived, according to KABC.

Buck injected the man with “two dangerously large” doses of methamphetamine, prosecutors said, according to the LA Times.

“With this new evidence, I authorized the filing of criminal charges against Ed Buck,” Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie Lacey said in a statement obtained by the newspaper.

Before last week, two other men fatally overdosed on meth at Buck’s residence, but no charges were brought against him in those cases.

The lack of legal action following in the deaths of Gemmel Moore, 26, and Timothy Dean, 55, sparked protests calling for Buck’s arrest, the network said.

Los Angeles prosecutors portrayed Buck as a sexual deviant who preys on vulnerable victims.

“From his home, in a position of power, Buck manipulates his victims into participating in his sexual fetishes,” prosecutors wrote in court papers obtained by the newspaper.

“These fetishes include supplying and personally administering dangerously large doses of narcotics to his victims…. Not deterred by the senseless deaths of Moore and Dean, the defendant nearly killed a third victim last week.”

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by Anonymousreply 243September 22, 2019 3:50 AM

That old queen is a menace

by Anonymousreply 1September 18, 2019 5:52 AM

About fucking time. How this guy has avoided arrest previously is clearly related to his having some money and being white.

by Anonymousreply 2September 18, 2019 5:53 AM

I'm saddened to hear it took the deaths of two gay men and the attempted murder of a third for the police to finally do something about this.

I also hate the fact that he keeps being referred to as a "Democratic" donor when he's really just a man who is a serial killer.

by Anonymousreply 3September 18, 2019 5:54 AM

I saw this. Again DL was ahead of the curve. There was a thread about a guy going into his house in the past week before this story came out. They guy clearly does meth with black guys . How money is involved and who does the shooting up is vague. I’m not sure he is guilty of a crime - even if he is morally corrupt, meth addict who somehome still has money to life guys in.

How is Ed Buck still alive and doing meth? He’s probably not that uncommon - old gay men living out their last days in the throes of meth as it’s the one drug that can reignite their sex drive and let them forget the misery of age and time and lost lives. Makes the old guys day drinking at the bars in the Castro seem harmless and almost tame by comparison.

by Anonymousreply 4September 18, 2019 5:58 AM

Third time’s the charm.

by Anonymousreply 5September 18, 2019 6:03 AM

To paraphrase Ian Fleming:

One dead homeless guy in your apartment is happenstance; two is coincidence; three is inexcusably careless.

by Anonymousreply 6September 18, 2019 6:07 AM

[quote] I’m not sure he is guilty of a crime - even if he is morally corrupt, meth addict who somehome still has money to life guys in.

They have the third victim confirming that:

1. He asked for help when he thought he was ODing and Buck refused to help him.

2. He tried to actively prevent him from leaving the premises to get help.

Add that to:

3. The previous victim was dead for 15 minutes before Buck called 911.

Then you have a man who possibly gave these men fatal doses and then wanted to sit there and watch them die.

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by Anonymousreply 7September 18, 2019 6:13 AM

He gets off on watching them die.

by Anonymousreply 8September 18, 2019 6:19 AM

That name: Ed Buck.

He probably offers these men an easy Buck. They get Buck naked. He gets big bangs for his Buck before they buckle under. And then he tries passing the Buck. Hopefully, the Buck stops here and he’s not allowed to Buck the system.

by Anonymousreply 9September 18, 2019 6:36 AM

The legal system in LA is so corrupt. Buck should have already been in prison.

by Anonymousreply 10September 18, 2019 6:37 AM

I wonder if he’s killed other people over the years.

by Anonymousreply 11September 18, 2019 6:50 AM

sick cunt!

He makes them wear strange clothing too.

by Anonymousreply 12September 18, 2019 7:13 AM

I swear if they give him a slap on the wrist Epstein-style...

by Anonymousreply 13September 18, 2019 7:18 AM

What the fuck is going ON in this world? It seems like everyone is acting like we're in bad television shows.

by Anonymousreply 14September 18, 2019 7:20 AM

He has a very sordid pastime, and needs to be stopped.

by Anonymousreply 15September 18, 2019 8:04 AM

Yes r15

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by Anonymousreply 16September 18, 2019 8:12 AM

This freak show should have been in trouble long ago.

by Anonymousreply 17September 18, 2019 8:14 AM

I can't imagine any Democrat has accepted money from him for a couple years now.

He is really a former donor.

by Anonymousreply 18September 18, 2019 8:31 AM

Referring to him as a democratic donor is a right wing media thing. Anybody can donate money. Pretty much anyone can host a fundraiser.

by Anonymousreply 19September 18, 2019 9:18 AM

Supposedly a large donor. He is a sick twisted pervert. Gemmel Moore’s mother will finally get the justice she seeks for her sons death at the hands of this jerk

by Anonymousreply 20September 18, 2019 9:30 AM

Buck, a one-time candidate for West Hollywood City Council, is well-known in LGBTQ political circles in Los Angeles and has donated thousands of dollars to local Democrats, animal rights causes, as well as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

by Anonymousreply 21September 18, 2019 9:50 AM

[quote] Referring to him as a democratic donor is a right wing media thing.

You don't say

Los Angeles Times -- Democratic donor Ed Buck arrested and charged with operating drug house

NY Times -- Ed Buck, a Democratic donor and activist

NBC4 Los Angeles -- Prominent Democratic Donor Charged

CBS Los Angeles — A West Hollywood man who has made large donations to the Democratic Party was charged Tuesday

KABC -- LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Democratic donor Ed Buck, who has been subject to protests

Axios -- Democratic megadonor Ed Buck charged

Daily Beast -- Democratic Donor Ed Buck Charged After Third Man Overdoses

Hollywood Reporter -- Democratic Donor Ed Buck Charged

Democraticunderground -- Democratic donor Ed Buck arrested

by Anonymousreply 22September 18, 2019 10:03 AM

"I also hate the fact that he keeps being referred to as a "Democratic" donor"

Everybody gets tagged now, so you'll know if it's a good idea or not that they met misfortune.

by Anonymousreply 23September 18, 2019 10:22 AM

[quote]How this guy has avoided arrest previously is clearly related to his having some money and being white.

And his victims being black, of course.

by Anonymousreply 24September 18, 2019 11:41 AM

Killers are always reduced to what is going to interest the most people. "Democratic donor" here, for a lot of mass killers its "Right-wing/alt-right leanings" or (if they're straight, white boy) "mentally ill". They go with what 'sells'...here we are, all talking about the wording of his many headlines.

It disgusts me that he's had so many previous brushes with the law, that he was well enough known as a p.o.s. to have threads HERE, yet LE did nothing. Yet another killer who could have been stopped sooner, if the situation had been taken seriously.

by Anonymousreply 25September 18, 2019 12:07 PM

[quote]Referring to him as a democratic donor is a right wing media thing. Anybody can donate money. Pretty much anyone can host a fundraiser.

That's the only way he's ever referred to in the media, though, and it's sketchy. He was a major Republican donor before he was a Democratic donor, and only switched to Dem after he called out a corrupt Repug governor and the Repugs went all homophobic on him.

His total donations to Dems is less than $30,000 total!

by Anonymousreply 26September 18, 2019 12:25 PM

I had no idea you could inject meth. I thought that was something you smoked. Shows how little I know about the dope culture.

by Anonymousreply 27September 18, 2019 12:40 PM

This asshole only targets vulnerable black men. No wonder black people hate white gay "men" look at the shit they get up too.

Black media is having a field day with this along with black twitter and its well deserved.

Fuck ed buck and west hollywood, what a fucking wasteland. I hope they lock his racist dangerous ass away until his dying day.

by Anonymousreply 28September 18, 2019 1:04 PM

Was he being protected by his friends?

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by Anonymousreply 29September 18, 2019 1:30 PM

So what? He's not forcing these people to take drugs. It's time to legalize all drugs.

by Anonymousreply 30September 18, 2019 1:59 PM

If the first one was "accidental" and it didn't change his behavior in any way...nor the second one...the guy is one sick fuck. I can't imagine having someone die in my house and not being completely freaked out and feeling horrendous guilt.

by Anonymousreply 31September 18, 2019 2:10 PM

[quote] His total donations to Dems is less than $30,000 total!

This is bullshit, and of course no source was, or will be provided.

by Anonymousreply 32September 18, 2019 2:12 PM

^ He is preying on black men and killing them with those drugs.

This time, the survivor can spell it out and hopefully get him off the streets where he would doubtlessly continue his serial killing.

I really think he has a sex/death fetish.

by Anonymousreply 33September 18, 2019 2:12 PM

Looks bad for the gays. Combined with the extreme claims of the trans/non-binary/polyamorous crowd we are not looking good in the public eye. We're now far from the hippie living utopia portrayed by Armistead Maupin, who seems more and more like a creator of an ideology and out of touch.

by Anonymousreply 34September 18, 2019 2:30 PM

They are painting Buck as a wealthy democratic donor. Why does he live is such a seemingly shit hole apartment? Does he just use that location for his sex play and live somewhere else?

by Anonymousreply 35September 18, 2019 2:45 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 36September 18, 2019 2:49 PM

where did he make his wealth?

by Anonymousreply 37September 18, 2019 2:50 PM

So the man with the paper towels and bandaged arm at R36 OD'd later that day.

Why so many paper towels?

by Anonymousreply 38September 18, 2019 3:03 PM

He's not that wealthy. He's a former boy toy actor and model back in the 1970s in Europe, so you can imagine what that entails.

This is a good primer on Ed Buck. He's going to be painted as a staunch, life-long Democrat but he's really a Republican with self-loathing tendencies who only went Dem because Repugs were a little too homophobic for him.

He very much sounds like a Datalounger, too.

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by Anonymousreply 39September 18, 2019 3:03 PM

I used to live in LA. R21 is correct. Buck is well-known in Dem and LGBT circles there.

by Anonymousreply 40September 18, 2019 3:13 PM

I knew him in Phoenix, my boyfriend lived with him (as a renter only) for quite some time. He purchased a large quantity of cheap dot matrix printers from Tandy, and had custom-written software that allowed insurance companies to check the driving record of applicants for auto insurance. This is way back before the internet circa 1979 or so.....used a 9600 baud modem to get information........ Small independent insurance agents were wowed by the "technology." They snapped up the units as quickly as he and his programmer could produce them. Saved the ins. agent having to go downtown to check for previous traffic violations on applicants. Sold the company to one of the larger insurers in early '80s and made about 1.5-2 million......that was a lot of money back then. Then he basically lay around his house .....did drugs and had sex for the rest of his life. He also owned the only body shop in Scottsdale AZ authorized by Rolls Royce to do body repair on their cars. He sold that too, when it did not make any money and became a liability.

by Anonymousreply 41September 18, 2019 3:23 PM

The biased media keeps referring to him as a "Democratic donor" instead of by his real job

Maybe Ted Bundy should be called "Prominent Young Republican Ted Bundy"

And r34 is clearly a concern troll

by Anonymousreply 42September 18, 2019 3:27 PM

Buck would never have done that.

by Anonymousreply 43September 18, 2019 3:35 PM

Why do all stories about him start with "Democratic Donor"? Does he not do anything else except donate money to the Democrats?

by Anonymousreply 44September 18, 2019 4:02 PM

[quote] Looks bad for the gays.

Why does this look bad for gays but not white people, men, men with whitish hair, thin men, LA, etc?

by Anonymousreply 45September 18, 2019 4:04 PM

Ed buck is doing nothing but justifying people's hatred and bigotry of the gay lifestyle.

Rightwing media is enjoying every minute of this shit storm.

Kevin Hart is somewhere laughing hard.

by Anonymousreply 46September 18, 2019 4:07 PM

R46, meanwhile a PA Republican state senator was just busted for child porn. Does that justify people's hatred of the Republican lifestyle?

by Anonymousreply 47September 18, 2019 4:13 PM

[quote] Why do all stories about him start with "Democratic Donor"?

He would have been jailed years ago for his crimes without those donations. It's essential to his story.

by Anonymousreply 48September 18, 2019 4:17 PM

Serial killer.

by Anonymousreply 49September 18, 2019 4:33 PM

The donations MAY have played a role in his not getting arrested earlier. Let's wait and see. But that's probably why it's noted in news reports.

by Anonymousreply 50September 18, 2019 4:35 PM

"He would have been jailed years ago for his crimes without those donations. It's essential to his story."

Nope, the donations weren't even that big.

by Anonymousreply 51September 18, 2019 4:38 PM

R30 you’re an idiot. Another black poor guy he paid to have sex with reported several months ago that Buck gave him Gatorade — probably spiked with GHB— that caused him to be incapacitated. Buck then proceeded to shoot him up with meth. The guy said Buck would talk about both of them shooting up Meth but Buck would only inject the guy. Buck gets off on drugging and possibly killing vulnerable black men, yes who use drugs but didn’t sign on ti be used for Buck’s sick death games. The LA police and DA have some major explaining to do.

by Anonymousreply 52September 18, 2019 4:39 PM

"Buck gets off on drugging and possibly killing vulnerable black men, yes who use drugs but didn’t sign on ti be used for Buck’s sick death games."

They were druggies to begin with, if they were so innocent why were they hanging out with him?

"Another black poor guy he paid to have sex with reported several months ago that Buck gave him Gatorade — probably spiked with GHB— that caused him to be incapacitated."

If someone said it, it must be true!

by Anonymousreply 53September 18, 2019 4:40 PM

R53 the guy has had three men OD in his house. Circumstances would certainly suggest that the guys story was more likely true than not. But your racism and classism won’t allow you to acknowledge that. But go ahead and get drunk at the bar with your friends and use poppers with your tricks. At least you’re not a real drug user, so you tell yourself.

by Anonymousreply 54September 18, 2019 4:45 PM

R53 why do t you try mixing viagra and poppers sometime soon

by Anonymousreply 55September 18, 2019 4:46 PM

"Circumstances would certainly suggest that the guys story was more likely true than not. But your racism and classism won’t allow you to acknowledge that."

Your being a Republican means you have to pretend to care about this story to try to make Democrats look bad, even though 99% of Americans don't know who Ed Buck is. You also have to pretend to care about racism and classism. That must be hard.

by Anonymousreply 56September 18, 2019 4:51 PM

[quote] Nope, the donations weren't even that big.

That makes the Dems look even worse. Why do Hillary, Schiff, Brown, Ted Lieu, etc all proudly pose with such a vile creature for a few dollars?

by Anonymousreply 57September 18, 2019 4:52 PM

Not all Democrat and gay men are angels . Duh.

by Anonymousreply 58September 18, 2019 4:54 PM

R56 I am a progressive Dem not a Republican. The fact that you want to give this guy a pass, along with suggesting the victims deserved their deaths indicate how twisted your moral compass really is.

by Anonymousreply 59September 18, 2019 4:58 PM

"Why do Hillary, Schiff, Brown, Ted Lieu, etc all proudly pose with such a vile creature for a few dollars?"

I don't know, why did Republicans proudly pose with Josh Duggar?

"The fact that you want to give this guy a pass, along with suggesting the victims deserved their deaths indicate how twisted your moral compass really is."

The fact that you are reciting right-wing talking points and playing into Republicans hands means you are a pretty lousy "progressive"

by Anonymousreply 60September 18, 2019 5:03 PM

[quote]They were druggies to begin with, if they were so innocent why were they hanging out with him?

Pretty sure this troll is pretending to be a Democrat to try to make it look like Democrats are okay with Ed Buck and what he's done.

by Anonymousreply 61September 18, 2019 5:04 PM

I'd stay away from that ouse.

by Anonymousreply 62September 18, 2019 5:06 PM

I don’t care if the guy is a Dem donor or not. To me that’s irrelevant. I don’t think he got a pass from authorities because of political connections. He got a pass becuase he’s a white middle class guy and the victims were poor black men who used drugs.

Your framing this as political rather than ethical is so fucked up. One sociopathic fucker excusing the twisted behavior of a fellow sociopath. Scary

by Anonymousreply 63September 18, 2019 5:07 PM

Don't you just abhor people who can't handle their drugs?

by Anonymousreply 64September 18, 2019 5:09 PM

r63, the sociopaths are the ones playing into Republicans hands. This guy isn't "prominent" and 99% of Americans don't know who this is. Republicans are trying to make this an issue just because he's a Democrat.

by Anonymousreply 65September 18, 2019 5:10 PM

[quote]About fucking time. How this guy has avoided arrest previously is clearly related to his having some money and being white.

More likely that he was a big Hillary Clinton money machine.

by Anonymousreply 66September 18, 2019 5:10 PM

[quote] More likely that he was a big Hillary Clinton money machine.

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by Anonymousreply 67September 18, 2019 5:15 PM

r66, you are a total idiot and thanks for proving that the people pretending to be concerned about this are Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 68September 18, 2019 5:17 PM

r68, you said it. I had nothing to do with that man.

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by Anonymousreply 69September 18, 2019 5:21 PM

r69, eat shit and thanks for proving my point that the people pretending to care about this are Republican trolls.

Here's another picture for you

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by Anonymousreply 70September 18, 2019 5:34 PM

Dave Chapelle, Tracy Morgan and Kevin Hart are fist bumping each other and laughing.

by Anonymousreply 71September 18, 2019 5:40 PM

Laughing at what? The fact that one gay person did something bad? Btw, weren't the victims gay, too?

by Anonymousreply 72September 18, 2019 5:43 PM

Is meth considered a narcotic?

by Anonymousreply 73September 18, 2019 5:46 PM

Depends, r73. According to Wiki:

Some people define narcotics as substances that bind at opioid receptors (cellular membrane proteins activated by substances like heroin or morphine) while others refer to any illicit substance as a narcotic.

by Anonymousreply 74September 18, 2019 5:49 PM

He gives them meth then makes them clean his house.

by Anonymousreply 75September 18, 2019 5:49 PM

[quote]Buck manipulates his victims into participating in his sexual fetishes,”

I want details!

by Anonymousreply 76September 18, 2019 5:59 PM

[quote] According to Blake’s account, Buck called the black 30-year-old his 'crack baby', 'my n****r buddy', 'my straight n****r buddy', 'and 'black boy'.

Very telling to see the worst kind of racism is in ultra-liberal West Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 77September 18, 2019 5:59 PM

Race has nothing to do with it, it's one-percent justice, just as it was when OJ cut off his ex-wife's head and got off scot-free.

by Anonymousreply 78September 18, 2019 6:05 PM

Telling of....what, r77? The worst kind of racism exists everywhere in varying degrees.

by Anonymousreply 79September 18, 2019 6:07 PM

Well yes, R14--it's all become one incredibly bad reality show that nobody could have marketed as even remotely plausible.

by Anonymousreply 80September 18, 2019 6:11 PM

Why do the sisters so love Tina?

We took ONLY what Judy Garland would take: prescription medicine and Miss Boozette!

by Anonymousreply 81September 18, 2019 6:19 PM

The Democratic donor angle is to say "look they have bad ones too" so Republicans don't take shit for taking money from every awful oil polluter Koch crazy person.

by Anonymousreply 82September 18, 2019 6:25 PM

Why do they always mention he was a Dem donor? Why has that stuck? Most people with money donate to one party or the other.

It's insane.

by Anonymousreply 83September 18, 2019 6:31 PM

"Very telling to see the worst kind of racism is in ultra-liberal West Hollywood."

And yet 90% of black voters disapprove of Trump. Suck on that, freeper shill.

by Anonymousreply 84September 18, 2019 6:50 PM

[Quote] He very much sounds like a Datalounger, too.

A DLer would never touch a 55 year old trick.

by Anonymousreply 85September 18, 2019 6:51 PM

Buck could have been jailed years ago. Now, the hidden racism of the left will get even more attention - at the worst possible time:

[quote] What concerns progressives is that despite their relentless rhetorical assault, Trump’s approval ratings among black voters appear to range between 18–34 percent (among Hispanics that number has reached the forties, even though Trump wants to put them all in cages before deporting them to Greenland).

Fourteen months from the next presidential election, those approval numbers are cause not just for Democratic concern, but apoplexy.

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by Anonymousreply 86September 18, 2019 7:03 PM

R41 - thank you. You are the reason DL is awesome. That was a great succinct explanation of who he is and background. Now makes total sense. What doesn’t make sense is how he’s lived so long with that lifestyle. WeHo is an unhealthy place to grow old.

by Anonymousreply 87September 18, 2019 7:03 PM

r86, thanks for proving your bias by linking to the National Review. And it says a lot that Republicans think it's a victory if 18% of black people approve of one of them.

by Anonymousreply 88September 18, 2019 7:04 PM

Oh, so he's into BBC.

by Anonymousreply 89September 18, 2019 7:15 PM

[quote]Kevin Hart is somewhere laughing hard.

Unlikely, he'd probably recognize, as many, many other black people on Twitter & off have, that this is a case of the police ignoring the deaths of poor black people. Sure, they were gay, they were drug addicts, but they were also black and that trumps the rest of it for many people.

Gay people and black people should both be outraged that it took two murders (that we know about), an attempted third murder and countless stories from black gay men in the community about what he was doing to get him arrested!

[quote]Why do all stories about him start with "Democratic Donor"? Does he not do anything else except donate money to the Democrats?

It gives it a faux political angle which will draw in readers and get those clicks going.

by Anonymousreply 90September 18, 2019 7:19 PM

Sounds like girl just likes to get down and dirty with her tricks. She likes it nasty.

by Anonymousreply 91September 18, 2019 7:24 PM

Actually sounds like “Get Out”

by Anonymousreply 92September 18, 2019 7:29 PM

In 2016, Ed Buck was a California Electoral College Elector. That’s...a pretty big deal.

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by Anonymousreply 93September 18, 2019 7:35 PM

R90, they died from overdoses. They weren't murdered.

by Anonymousreply 94September 18, 2019 7:42 PM

Those two things aren't mutually exclusive, r94....

by Anonymousreply 95September 18, 2019 7:46 PM

I knew Ed Buck in WH, prior to the three deaths.

Ask me anything.

by Anonymousreply 96September 18, 2019 7:48 PM

Wide eyed - what did he do with his time? Did he hang out at the bars? Was he just a wannabe WeHo socialite after living in the boondocks of Phoenix? Why did he live in such a shithole apartment ? Does he actually have any money?

by Anonymousreply 97September 18, 2019 7:58 PM

Is it possible the crappy apartment is just a pied-a-terre for drug infused BBC encounters?

by Anonymousreply 98September 18, 2019 8:13 PM

R77 FF

Human garbage alert.

by Anonymousreply 99September 18, 2019 8:16 PM

R96 did he find guys on Grindr?

by Anonymousreply 100September 18, 2019 8:17 PM

Here’s a compilation of Ed Buck’s political donations. Bunch of Arizona politicians and PACs in there too.

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by Anonymousreply 101September 18, 2019 8:18 PM

R7 Jesus fucking Christ. Horrific. A man is dying in front of you. How twisted do you have to be to not try to help him.

This guy needs to be put away.

by Anonymousreply 102September 18, 2019 8:20 PM

He'll meet all the black men he wants when he goes to jail.

by Anonymousreply 103September 18, 2019 8:40 PM

LOL, R103.

This guy sounds like that Durst guy. Serial killer who got away with it because he had money.

by Anonymousreply 104September 18, 2019 8:42 PM

The only people who care about this is republicans trying to make gay men look bad, the trannys and kevin hart are probably happy as well.

by Anonymousreply 105September 18, 2019 8:45 PM

If we're going to post pictures of Ed Buck with Hillary Clinton, maybe I should start looking for that photo of Rosalyn Carter with BFF John Wayne Gacy.

by Anonymousreply 106September 18, 2019 8:49 PM

If you search other DL threads on this cunt, there are more details of this sick fuck.

I read some really sick shit in those threads. I don't think there is sex, just drugs.

He only uses this shithole to do this shit. He lives elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 107September 18, 2019 8:50 PM

I wonder if his victims spoke in ebonics like the other DL thread.

by Anonymousreply 108September 18, 2019 9:02 PM

[quote]r97 Wide eyed - what did he do with his time? Did he hang out at the bars? Was he just a wannabe WeHo socialite after living in the boondocks of Phoenix? Why did he live in such a shithole apartment ? Does he actually have any money?

He seemed like a together, healthy person in many ways. Early riser to walk his dog(s), always neatly presentable. Active with his neighbors. At the time I knew him he was tireless in fighting the mass development taking over West Hollywood, which displaced many longterm renting seniors and mid level households. The existing City Council approved demolition project after project, dependent on the VERY large and CONSISTENT dollars land developers gave to re-election campaigns, which insured their projects would be approved. So, a part of his daily life was given to collecting signatures, presenting opinion at endless City Council meetings every other week, strategizing, helping displaced neighbors, etc. etc. Those are the activities I saw. I know he was also very active in rescuing and training/socializing golden retrievers.

He did not present himself as wealthy. His rent controlled apartment was on a quiet, leafy street off Santa Monica Boulevard ... made up of other multi-family complexes (old apartment buildings). It is a desirable location, blocks from City Hall and away from the noise/foot traffic of the Boys Town area.

I believe he had plenty of money, but lived a non-flashy life. I don't even remember him driving. If I had to guess, part of his day was given to his managing investments/stocks online. He is a very intelligent and articulate person. He's diplomatic, though you could also sense there was a steely harshness in him, under the surface.

by Anonymousreply 109September 18, 2019 9:34 PM

[quote] I’m not sure he is guilty of a crime - even if he is morally corrupt, meth addict who somehome still has money to life guys in.

By the time his trial comes around, the victim will be saying a lot of things. He'll have a lawyer, a personal injury lawyer who is suing Ed Buck. The lawyer will manage to find a bunch of other people who were almost killed by Ed Buck

Ed's best option is to kill himself as soon as possible. All kinds of shit is going to come out about him

by Anonymousreply 110September 18, 2019 9:34 PM

What's the deal? Is he a serial killer who's gotten sloppy in his old age? He plans to have these men overdose but he doesn't plan what to do afterwards...? He doesn't take the drugs himself? The second man was 55. Serial killers usually have a narrow age range that they go after.

by Anonymousreply 111September 18, 2019 9:37 PM

[quote]r98 Is it possible the crappy apartment is just a pied-a-terre for drug infused BBC encounters?

No.

It is not "a crappy apartment," either. It is in an old (early 1950s?) building without interesting details, but it is a standard middle class 2 bedroom apartment for Los Angeles. He is not prone to decorating - and I remember his apartment being neatly kept. (Maybe he had a housekeeper who came in every other week or so. Or maybe he's just naturally disciplined about keeping a place tidy.)

by Anonymousreply 112September 18, 2019 9:38 PM

He's donated 100's of thousands of dollars

by Anonymousreply 113September 18, 2019 9:39 PM

[quote]From his home, in a position of power, Buck manipulates his victims into participating in his sexual fetishes,” prosecutors wrote in court papers obtained by the newspaper.

[quote]“These fetishes include supplying and personally administering dangerously large doses of narcotics to his victims

Ok, maybe I'm not reading the tea leaves correctly, but what fetishes include administering narcotics?

by Anonymousreply 114September 18, 2019 9:39 PM

[quote]r97 Did he hang out at the bars?

I don't know what he did at night. But I never knew him to have a boyfriend. And actually, I'm not sure I ever even saw him take a drink, either.

It is turning out that this seems to have been a rather complex person. More so than I knew in the years I was aquainted with him.

by Anonymousreply 115September 18, 2019 9:41 PM

Dataloungers blame sexual abuse victims all the time...why aren't they blaming guys who knowingly spent time with him?

by Anonymousreply 116September 18, 2019 9:46 PM

[Quote] why aren't they blaming guys who knowingly spent time with him?

You think people with heavy drug problems keep up with the news? How many major outlets have given this story attention?

by Anonymousreply 117September 18, 2019 9:47 PM

[quote]A man is dying in front of you. How twisted do you have to be to not try to help him.

I beg your pardon.

by Anonymousreply 118September 18, 2019 9:49 PM

R117, a ton. The "liberal" media is all over this story, describing him as a "democratic donor" instead of by his actual job

by Anonymousreply 119September 18, 2019 9:50 PM

Turn in your gay card, r118.

by Anonymousreply 120September 18, 2019 10:02 PM

[quote]r119 The "liberal" media is all over this story, describing him as a "democratic donor" instead of by his actual job

He does not have a job. He's someone who made lots of money, then went into an early retirement to focus on political activism.

by Anonymousreply 121September 18, 2019 10:06 PM

R121, then why don't they refer to him as a retired businessman?

by Anonymousreply 122September 18, 2019 10:08 PM

JOKE SET-UP: Jussie Smollett and Ed Buck walk into a bar. And the bartender says .... ?

by Anonymousreply 123September 18, 2019 10:08 PM

It's basically the Atlanta Child murders but with gay black men. The cops didn't give a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 124September 18, 2019 10:09 PM

r123 Does Jussie have a bbc ? Im pretty sure he's a bottom.

by Anonymousreply 125September 18, 2019 10:19 PM

[quote]r124 It's basically the Atlanta Child murders but with gay black men. The cops didn't give a fuck.

I don't get the sense that was the case. There was apparently lack of evidence as to who is responsible for whose death. If people are doing drugs together, or someone is doing drugs in your presence, it can't be proven exactly what happened when there's an overdose.

Three times is pushing it, tho. And the third guy is actually talking (ie, not dead) so that gives police something to actually work with.

It would be interesting to see his interrogation tapes from the first two incidents. He is an excellent public speaker with decades of experience. He would know what to say and what not to say, as far as incrimination.

by Anonymousreply 126September 18, 2019 10:19 PM

There's very little hard evidence, only he said she said, plus he's rich with great lawyers, he's not going to jail, dont be delusional.

by Anonymousreply 127September 18, 2019 10:21 PM

I researched him one time and he made a llittle money in Ariz........and moved to west hollywood into an apartment in a so so ok area. He has a roommate that is splitting the rent with him for gods sake. So its bullshit he is wealthy. He has donated a few thousand here and there to various charities and sometimes more, but always strategically to further whatever his agenda is. THe reason he has gotten away with 2 of these is he picks his victims VERY carefully. No close families.......no money, usually from out of state, homeless or close to it. And BLACK. that is the biggest thing, Cops dont care too much about black male victims in general. Dying of a drug overdose is also another ticket to no police investigaton. One less junky tgo deal with, etc etc Buck picked his victims as carefully as michael jackson picked his.

by Anonymousreply 128September 19, 2019 12:22 AM

This sick fuck preys on weak homeless people and street prostitutes. I read an account from a paid trick over a year ago who had nearly escaped within an inch of his life. That man was drugged against his will, and refused to do meth with him. The trick stated he also used racially degrading language, and scared the hell out of him. That prostitute said he thought he had seen and experienced everything until meeting up with this creep.

by Anonymousreply 129September 19, 2019 12:30 AM

So Ed Buck was basically Jeffrey Dahmer minus the eating part ?

by Anonymousreply 130September 19, 2019 12:34 AM

Usually out of state? Didn't the 55 year old work in a department store for decades (with porn on the side)?

by Anonymousreply 131September 19, 2019 12:40 AM

The men died on his premises. Even with the victims being black, he was never going to get away with doing the same thing over and over in the same damn place. It makes little sense. Wily types cover their tracks. This guy had the world watching and he did the same shit again.

by Anonymousreply 132September 19, 2019 12:43 AM

[quote] Very telling to see the worst kind of racism is in ultra-liberal West Hollywood.

Not at all surprising to anyone who's lived there.

by Anonymousreply 133September 19, 2019 12:46 AM

Thanks Wide Eyed. How weird that he was basically living a normal life otherwise. I wonder if he himself actually even does meth? In my 50s my sex drive isn’t enough to make me want to even pay someone to have sex - never mind set up elaborate sexual scenarios involving drugs. But then LA is a weird, depraved place in many ways. Not sure why there seems to be a lot of old guys in WeHo trying to act like 30-something circuit boys or being sugar daddies to young whores.

by Anonymousreply 134September 19, 2019 1:00 AM

[quote]There's very little hard evidence, only he said she said, plus he's rich with great lawyers, he's not going to jail, dont be delusional.

He may have gotten away with it the first and second time but this time the story has gotten national attention this time.

I doubt he'll get much jail time but he is going to jail.

Hopefully they'll find something else to pin on him while they're doing this.

by Anonymousreply 135September 19, 2019 1:17 AM

I'm an attorney; based on the reports so far re the 3rd incident, I bet he gets at least 25 years in the slammer. He'll never get out again.

by Anonymousreply 136September 19, 2019 1:26 AM

^^And those loving pix of him together with Hildebeast will be all over everywhere until the next election results are tallied. Wait and see.

by Anonymousreply 137September 19, 2019 1:28 AM

r136 You're definetaly not a lawyer if you think he'll get 25 years in prison for giving drugs to an addict.

by Anonymousreply 138September 19, 2019 1:34 AM

R137, no one will remember this in a few months. You are giving yourself away as a freeper. Trump has taken photographs with plenty of shady people.

by Anonymousreply 139September 19, 2019 1:37 AM

[quote]Then you have a man who possibly gave these men fatal doses and then wanted to sit there and watch them die.

Couldn't he just have shot a man in Reno?

by Anonymousreply 140September 19, 2019 1:42 AM

R114 You'll find it under "slamming" on PronHub.

by Anonymousreply 141September 19, 2019 2:14 AM

What about the rumors that there were more than 3 victims? These are the only ones we know about.

My guess is this story is not over, and we will learn he was likely responsible for even more deaths.

by Anonymousreply 142September 19, 2019 2:30 AM

Think about it - he tried to kill AGAIN even after being blamed for 2 deaths.

He knew there was increased media attention, and he STILL couldn't help himself.

by Anonymousreply 143September 19, 2019 2:31 AM

[quote]r128 moved to west hollywood into an apartment in a so so ok area.

It's actually a great area. His street has 3 very famous landmark buildings on it, which housed gay icons Mart Crowley, Gavin Lambert, and Faye Dunaway (when she was renting.) It is a block from the Sunset Strip and and the Directors Guild.

It's an ecclectric street, like much of West Hollywood, but by no means just "so so ok".

by Anonymousreply 144September 19, 2019 3:05 AM

[quote]r142 What about the rumors that there were more than 3 victims? These are the only ones we know about.

That would require the disposing of bodies, which is hard to do.

Why would he call 911 about three bodies in his apartment over time if he had a way of disposing of them already?

by Anonymousreply 145September 19, 2019 3:15 AM

how does one FORCE someone else to do crystal meth?

by Anonymousreply 146September 19, 2019 3:56 AM

He drugs them with GBH then he injects the victims.

by Anonymousreply 147September 19, 2019 4:16 AM

Thanks for sharing this inside info, Wide-eyed.

If you lived in the neighborhood, did you ever see him on Grindr or Scruff? I can't imagine he used a face photo, but maybe you saw some little hints (Looking for BBC and PNP, etc)

by Anonymousreply 148September 19, 2019 4:22 AM

[quote] He drugs them with GBH then he injects the victims.

Ed had control of the drugs. He would likely inject himself, and then offer a "dose" to the victims. They would have no reason to suspect the dose would be enough to kill.

by Anonymousreply 149September 19, 2019 4:25 AM

any pic of his teeth? are they still there?

by Anonymousreply 150September 19, 2019 4:47 AM

[quote]r148 If you lived in the neighborhood, did you ever see him on Grindr or Scruff? I can't imagine he used a face photo, but maybe you saw some little hints (Looking for BBC and PNP, etc)

I've never used those apps, so I wouldn't know.

I will say he is an attractive man. He's a former model. Tall. At the same time, he doesn't give off a "sexy" vibe. He's not flirtatious. He has a contained manner.

by Anonymousreply 151September 19, 2019 5:03 AM

Arresting Ed Buck is like arresting the prostitute and ignoring her johns.

It's like Division and Clark in Chicago which recently is overrun with druggies.

Of course the drug dealers are there, but why? Because it's the Gold Coast and rich people are buying from them.

The only reason the drug dealers are there is because that is where the money is.

by Anonymousreply 152September 19, 2019 9:30 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7444645/Hillary-Clinton-donor-Ed-Buck-having-young-black-men-visit-seedy-LA-apartment.html

Dailymail isn't the most reliable of news sites, but it does have a quote from one of the victim's journal. "In one entry, Moore wrote: 'I honestly don't know what to do. I've become addicted to drugs and the worst one at that. Ed Buck is the one to thank. He gave me my first injection of crystal meth it was very painful, but after all the troubles, I became addicted to the pain and fetish/fantasy."

This guy may have a direct death count of 2 people, but an auxiliary kill count probably in the triple digits. After all, he would take vulnerable people and get them hooked on meth. This drastically reduces your lifespan. How many killed themselves because of this? How many went on to overdose because they sought out the drug from other sources? I wouldn't be surprised if he was doing this for at least a decade until he finally could only get off if he killed people. Imagine an assembly line of black gay men forced to take meth for cash and becoming addicted to it just to satisfy his fetish.

Furthermore, I don't think him being called a "Democrat donor" in the media is what looks the worst. It's the fact that the prosecutor literally let a guy like this kill 2 people and get away with it. He probably felt like he was invincible after killing 2 people and the cops still not caring.

by Anonymousreply 153September 19, 2019 9:51 AM

There's more to this than meets the eye.

I've posted here a bit about my experiences at that complex and there's not much additional info I want to provide. However, in reiteration, I know that location as being a drop off point for suitcases of the highest grade cocaine I've ever encountered. The former manager was also former FBI and his son is high ranking military.

I'm sure someone with the time and curiosity could research a pretty interesting diagram of personnel who have been involved with that property.

by Anonymousreply 154September 19, 2019 10:06 AM

Are you implying Hillary is involved, R154?

by Anonymousreply 155September 19, 2019 11:32 AM

[Quote] After all, he would take vulnerable people and get them hooked on meth.

I'm skeptical about that. I hope this Ed Buck guy gets put away for a long, long time. But I doubt these men weren't drug users before encountering Buck. The second guy was 55 years old.

by Anonymousreply 156September 19, 2019 12:59 PM

How would you explain the journal entry at r153, r156?

by Anonymousreply 157September 19, 2019 1:55 PM

The "diary" sounds made up

by Anonymousreply 158September 19, 2019 2:37 PM

[quote] I doubt these men weren't drug users before

This isn't related to this case but once I bought a coffee table book in a West Hollywood thrift shop, and there were some loose lined pages in the front that were so eerie. I've never done hard drugs, but they really gave me a peek into what that whole meth cycle is like, for some.

[italic]"To have a comedown let me explain what a come down is. As im havin im having one now. The feeling of this drug is amazing it makes u feel that nothing bad really matters n it makes u realize n opens urs eyes to realety of what live is. N it makes u feel good about ur self. Till you star coming down than u realize that even what u did years ago was bad n u end up feeling sorry. But just wait till u star panicking now thats the reall deal u feel ur heart bepping harder n harder every secon than u feel like you can breath. Than u now what u did wass wrong thinking ur gonna overdose n die. U feel like is the end of u. Till you feel ur in ur last minute n you see that nothing is going on than u thank who ever u believe in n say that ur gonna be a better person. Sex is the best feeling wen your on it. That’s were u get durty n do shit that u never though u were gonna do. Best sex ever best felling every were. After you cum n sex is over ull feel so good but tair at the same time. That’s when u just knock out. Ull feel a lil nasty but it wont matter cus our more tair than ever. Yea I have had the nastyes comedowns but I never learn. In fact I have learn to control them. But the true is that today wen I started to write this letter I knew my live was gonna end. I couldn’t breath n my heart keep bumping the was a time were I just lost it for minutes. But one thing I didt do today was to say sorry or promise that I was gonna be a better person I feel like I deserve everything n if I died nothing really matter no more. But at this point right now I feel better. Today was the day that I feel that everything was gonna end. Would I do this drug again? Can say I wont put I know for a fact that is bad n that one of my lifes ended today. Don’t know how many I have left but I do promess that ill be really careful cus we don’t ever know what are body can take. This cat have one life gone how many do I have left dont know"

by Anonymousreply 159September 19, 2019 3:28 PM

NYT:

A Trickle of Bodies at Ed Buck’s West Hollywood Home, Suspicion and an Arrest

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by Anonymousreply 160September 19, 2019 3:35 PM

Where are his model pictures?

by Anonymousreply 161September 19, 2019 3:45 PM

[quote]Where are his model pictures?

Kept in the Barbizon Archives.

by Anonymousreply 162September 19, 2019 4:05 PM

Barbizon!

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by Anonymousreply 163September 19, 2019 4:08 PM

I think he's looking for a mind-blowing fuck from a well-hung Mandingo, so he's feeding them drugs to amp-up their... enthusiasm. Then they O.D.

by Anonymousreply 164September 19, 2019 5:40 PM

L.A. Times:

Democratic donor Ed Buck to face federal drug charges over death at his home, sources say

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by Anonymousreply 165September 19, 2019 7:15 PM

[quote] Arresting Ed Buck is like arresting the prostitute and ignoring her johns.

Huh? Ed Buck IS the john in this situation.

by Anonymousreply 166September 19, 2019 7:22 PM

[quote] Think about it - he tried to kill AGAIN even after being blamed for 2 deaths. He knew there was increased media attention, and he STILL couldn't help himself.

I doubt he actually tried to kill any of his victims; he just didn't give a shit if they happened to OD. Agreed, though, that it's nuts he couldn't or wouldn't curb his activities after two well-publicized deaths.

by Anonymousreply 167September 19, 2019 7:26 PM

The diary of the kid who died is really strangely specific. I can’t imagine writing in a diary like that.

But if it was authenticated, it is a smoking gun. Not sure it’s criminal evidence - as it never says that Buck injected him. But it makes clear that Buck introduced him to it and encouraged it. That would be an evil thing to do. Like telling someone to do heroin. Yes, the individual is responsible for himself - and that is probably the legal standard. But ethically, it’s heinous that someone would knowingly introduce someone to an extremely addictive drug.

Maybe some Current or former meth users here could explain how they were introduced to it. But I can’t imagine anyone knowingly encouraging someone to try it for the first time.

by Anonymousreply 168September 19, 2019 7:32 PM

[Quote] But ethically, it’s heinous that someone would knowingly introduce someone to an extremely addictive drug.

Who doesn't know heroin is addictive?

by Anonymousreply 169September 19, 2019 7:45 PM

I'm not so sure it was his first time taking drugs. He specifically says, "First time to INJECT crystal meth"

by Anonymousreply 170September 19, 2019 7:55 PM

Buck gave loads of money to animal rights activists, but most of his political donations do not add up to more than a few thousand bucks, max, per candidate, for a grand total of less than100K over a several-year period. It's not like he was Sheldon Adelson operating a zillion-dollar PAC or something. I seriously doubt that powerful Dems were covering up for him, and it IS really obnoxious that every freaking article about him describes him as a "Democratic donor" as though that were his main identity.

by Anonymousreply 171September 19, 2019 8:01 PM

[quote] it IS really obnoxious that every freaking article about him describes him as a "Democratic donor" as though that were his main identity.

The Daily Mail has repeatedly named him "Hillary donor Ed Buck".

Just a little extra kick to the Clintons.

by Anonymousreply 172September 19, 2019 11:06 PM

Well see if he serves time. I doubt it

by Anonymousreply 173September 20, 2019 12:18 AM

He looks like an eldergay with a hole so loose you could put a baseball bat up it while he's sleeping and he wouldn't even wake-up (just purr).

by Anonymousreply 174September 20, 2019 1:51 AM

[quote] He makes them wear strange clothing too.

Just like Anna Wintour!

by Anonymousreply 175September 20, 2019 1:53 AM

Ryan Murphy is looking at this and looking for ways to adapt these horrible crimes into one of his sloppy,queeny campfests. Knowing him he'll squeeze 10 weak , unintentionally funny and incoherent episodes from these tragedies.

by Anonymousreply 176September 20, 2019 2:22 AM

Denis O'Hare for Ed?

by Anonymousreply 177September 20, 2019 2:29 AM

Ed Buck is a LONG time WeHo, chicken hawk aficionado. He preys on homeless men who are sleeping in Plummer Park, or who loiter at the Target/Starbucks courtyard on Santa Monica & La Brea.

The media is framing this as if Ed’s some independently wealthy bachelor, who targets only black men. NOT so. Ed targets anyone who is willing to party with him, black, white, Asian, Trans, straight or gay.

Ed is not wealthy, far from it. No one is sure how he gets his money, but I’m gonna assume he had an old school annuity with either the city, county, state, Fed, or worked in a company that offered excellent 401K matches, as many did back in the 70s, 80s, and even the 90s. He is also, most probably receiving SS payments.

From what I’ve been told, Ed is known to have access to the best meth in town, & always has it on hand. There’s an older, white, homeless guy named Marcus, who’s been partying with Ed for years, and you know precisely when he’s been at Ed’s, because he is usually wearing the long-johns, and the same exact boots that the black guy is wearing in some photos in the DM. I guess Ed either gets high as fuck, & gives away his clothes, or he buys these guys clothing. I have seen the boots on Marcus, & can personally attest to the fact that they are high quality- actually, the jeans and the flannel shirts he has given Marcus throughout the years are high quality as well. I know this, because I gave Marcus several winter coats, food, and money myself, for many years, until he attempted to smash my car’s rear window with a bat. I’m pretty sure he was high on meth when that happened, btw. And yes, I called the Sheriff’s Department & pressed charges. Never spoke to Marcus again. And yes, I’m an idiot for giving shit away to strangers, but I’ve always been a sucker when it comes to helping others. Sue me.

Back in the early 2000s, I befriended a neighbor who was HIV +, and was struggling with meth addiction. Another neighbor who knew I had been sober for many years (at that point-because I did relapse, but am presently sober & have been for years, now) introduced us, in hopes that I’d take him to a meeting, which I did. Many meetings, in fact. Let’s call the neighbor who had a meth problem, “Bob”.

Bob struggled with addiction profoundly. He just couldn’t put more than 2 weeks sober. Anyhow, he ended up hooking up with Ed, as did Bob’s friend, “Simon”, who was a very handsome black man, & was also addicted to meth, however, had a high paying job, a house, and a brand new BMW. Bob was eventually evicted from his place, & I lost touch with him. Fast forward approximately 5 years. I ran into Simon at an AA meeting, & he told me that he had a few months sober. He had lost his job, his house, car, everything, & was living in a homeless shelter in DTLA. I bought him lunch, & gave him a ride to the homeless shelter. He told me that he’d been afraid of taking the bus to WeHo, because he dreaded running into Ed, & he believed that he would relapse if he did. I encouraged him to put his sobriety 1st, & to take things a day at a time. Never saw him again, but months later, Bob showed up at my place, unexpectedly. Surprisingly, he had been sober for 3 years, and was taking psych classes online, in order to become an addiction therapist. I told him that I had ran into Simon at a meeting, & that he was attempting to get his life back on track. Sadly, he said that Simon had relapsed, and had died from a meth overdose and had been found at deceased, Plummer Park.

I just came across this story, and I am stunned.

by Anonymousreply 178September 20, 2019 2:47 AM

[Quote] He told me that he’d been afraid of taking the bus to WeHo, because he dreaded running into Ed, & he believed that he would relapse if he did.

How desperately sad.

by Anonymousreply 179September 20, 2019 2:57 AM

R178, you may be called as a witness to Ed's pattern of behavior.

by Anonymousreply 180September 20, 2019 3:22 AM

So Ed Buck’s second victim was the porn performer “Hole Hunter”?

This gets weirder and weirder.

by Anonymousreply 181September 20, 2019 5:07 AM

r178, another point of view:

Even after the deaths of Moore and Dean, Buck continued to solicit men to engage in dangerous sexual fetish play involving drugs as recently as this summer, prosecutors say.

So prolific were his sick appetites that 𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘𝒏 𝒂𝒔 '𝑫𝒓 𝑲𝒆𝒗𝒐𝒓𝒌𝒊𝒂𝒏' 𝒂𝒎𝒐𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒐𝒄𝒂𝒍 𝒉𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒔𝒔 𝒑𝒐𝒑𝒖𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏, one man living in West Hollywood's Plummer Park told investigators.

The homeless man said that Buck paid him $60 in exchange for sex, and that Buck told him it was 'part of his role playing and fantasy to inject people with methamphetamine.'

The homeless man said he reluctantly agreed to a small dose, but that Buck emptied an entire syringe into his veins, according to the charging documents.

The homeless man said Buck forced him to dress in white underwear and a jock strap, and painfully bound his genitals, until he lost consciousness. When he came to, he says Buck paid him off and told him to shower and leave.

Prosecutors plan to ask a federal magistrate to order Buck held without bond pending his trial.

'We believe he poses a significant risk to public safety,' U.S. Attorney Nicola T. Hanna said at a press conference on Thursday.

by Anonymousreply 182September 20, 2019 5:08 AM

Oh fuck what if Buck was our jockstrap fetishist? How many fucking serial killers has DL hosted over the years?

by Anonymousreply 183September 20, 2019 6:00 AM

I do not believe all this "He forced me to take the drugs, Mr. police officer" spiel. r178's account is much more plausible - specifically the part about the friend who wanted to avoid Buck because he knew that he would do drugs if Buck offered. I hope Buck rots in the slammer.

by Anonymousreply 184September 20, 2019 1:39 PM

I couldn't imagine inviting a homeless stranger into my house and giving them meth. Think of how crazy they could get and the horrors that could happen. So I wonder what went down in his past that would make this his MO. What "good" experience he's remembering and trying to duplicate.

by Anonymousreply 185September 20, 2019 3:17 PM

Yeah, I wonder what his kick is - especially if the deaths are actually the exception to the rule of his "partying." I'm still a bit unclear about Buck's own drug use - does he always partake himself or just sometimes? Does he fake partaking so that he can be fully present for the... event?

by Anonymousreply 186September 20, 2019 3:31 PM

Feds say they were able to identify 10 additional victims of Ed Buck, nine of whom said he coerced or physically forced them to be injected with meth. According to U.S. Attorney Nick Hanna, one man said "Buck injected him with methamphetamine almost daily."

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by Anonymousreply 187September 20, 2019 3:35 PM

It's claimed upthread that Buck doesn't really have money but he's able to inject someone with meth daily?

by Anonymousreply 188September 20, 2019 3:37 PM

How is one coerced or physically forced to be injected with meth......almost daily?

by Anonymousreply 189September 20, 2019 3:40 PM

R188, people always find a way to get drugs if they truly want them. I can’t imagine it would set you back more than $40 to $60 dollars a day.

R189, if you have been impaired with some other substance, why not?

by Anonymousreply 190September 20, 2019 4:13 PM

I’m R178, & here’s what I know: Ed isn’t broke. He’s obviously financially comfortable, but he isn’t some independently wealthy philanthropist or democratic donor, signing checks for millions or even hundreds of thousands. He definitely had enough money to live in a decent area, and he definitely had money to buy lots of meth. I just got off the phone with someone who got meth from Ed. Allegedly, Ed sold this person an 8 ball of it, for $60.00 bucks. They drove down to some seedy place in Hollywood, & this person waited in the car, & Ed came back with a HUGE bag of it. They went back to this person’s apartment and partied, (snorted it-specifically), & Ed didn’t try any weird shit, because this person is a straight woman.

When I wrote, upthread, that Ed would party with anyone, this is what I was referring to. I wanted to speak to her 1st, before getting into the details. And I know she’s telling me the truth, because she’s now sober, & has been for quite some time. And guess where she met Ed? Santa Monica and La Brea, in the courtyard where all the homeless gays hang out. She went there looking to buy some shit, & a homeless black guy introduced her to Ed.

I don’t believe that Ed was trying to purposefully kill his tricks. He wanted them high as fuck, in order to have hours and hours of meth fueled sex with them. That’s why he and my former neighbor Bob hit it off so well. They both had extremely high tolerances to the drug, & they both wanted to fuck for days while high.

So yes. Ed gets high as fuck on Meth, too. No doubt about it.

by Anonymousreply 191September 20, 2019 4:17 PM

Thanks R191 - great local detail. Good work.

by Anonymousreply 192September 20, 2019 4:25 PM

Why would you go back after the first day if you'd been forced or coerced, r190?

by Anonymousreply 193September 20, 2019 4:25 PM

R66 you are a moron. I remember McManhon worked for American Family Sweepstakes. His catchphrase was "you may have already won..." Carson joked about it all the time. I remember thinking at the time they were ripping off Publishers Clearinghouse. Anyone who maintains that Ed worked for Publishers is half retarded.

by Anonymousreply 194September 20, 2019 4:30 PM

I know some would whine about "making gays look bad" but a drama based on this could be exceptionally strong. The straight woman would be a nice in for the mainstream audience.

by Anonymousreply 195September 20, 2019 4:36 PM

And I'm half retarded. Wrong thread.

by Anonymousreply 196September 20, 2019 4:37 PM

R193, money usually has something to do with it.

by Anonymousreply 197September 20, 2019 4:37 PM

I would argue, r196, that using the word retarded in a pejorative manner......

by Anonymousreply 198September 20, 2019 4:42 PM

I think that makes it bribery as opposed to force or coercion, r197.

by Anonymousreply 199September 20, 2019 4:44 PM

Ethically speaking if a person is poor and desperate and someone offers them a large sum of money then that can be considered coercion. I know about this rule because I used to do research in developing countries, and you have to offer people involved something for their trouble and time - like $5-10 dollars - but you can’t offer them $100 because that is so much money, they can’t say no.

It depends on the situation – if someone offered me $200 to do something, that’s not coercion because I’m middle class and can easily refuse. However if they offered a homeless person $200 to do the same thing then that could be considered coercion because the person is probably too desperate to say no.

by Anonymousreply 200September 20, 2019 5:16 PM

R199, you asked why people would go back. Once they got there, anything might happen.

by Anonymousreply 201September 20, 2019 5:23 PM

I was just making the point that if someone was going back on an almost daily basis, it wasn't due to force or coercion.

by Anonymousreply 202September 20, 2019 5:26 PM

R200: offering someone money to do anything is not "coercion" under the law of any State in this country. Coercion is holding a gun to their head, or threatening to kill someone close to them if they don't do what they are asked. In the realm of criminal charges, it makes a big difference how words are used.

by Anonymousreply 203September 20, 2019 5:28 PM

But if you offered a homeless person $5,000.00 to kill someone, r200, would the homeless person be able to claim coercion if he did it?

by Anonymousreply 204September 20, 2019 5:36 PM

R202, there are a number of men who have lodged complaints against Buck. The initial complaint was made by someone who had gone to Buck's house twice. I assume that the fact patterns are slightly different in each case--including the guy who Buck threatened with a chain saw.

by Anonymousreply 205September 20, 2019 5:40 PM

I assume Ed is a top and wants to make everyone he lures in his bottom. All the crystal users I know or talk to are power bottoms.

by Anonymousreply 206September 20, 2019 5:40 PM

Oh, I agree, r205. I think I was just arguing semantics with that one "almost daily basis" case.

by Anonymousreply 207September 20, 2019 5:45 PM

"But if you offered a homeless person $5,000.00 to kill someone, [R200], would the homeless person be able to claim coercion if he did it? "

Absolutely not.

by Anonymousreply 208September 20, 2019 5:53 PM

He should be described as “activist and former model”, I guess.

The “democratic doner” title is weirdly superfluous.

by Anonymousreply 209September 20, 2019 6:19 PM

The media needs its spin, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 210September 20, 2019 6:44 PM

Ethics are not the same as the law.

Is it illegal to offer a homeless man $100 to get shot up with drugs? No.

Is it immoral? I would say yes.

by Anonymousreply 211September 20, 2019 6:56 PM

Exactly R211. I get why people are upset - but I don’t see how it’s illegal. Disgusting and disgraceful - but not against the law.

by Anonymousreply 212September 20, 2019 6:59 PM

[quote] R211 Ethics are not the same as the law. Is it illegal to offer a homeless man $100 to get shot up with drugs? No. Is it immoral? I would say yes.

[quote]r212 I don’t see how it’s illegal. Disgusting and disgraceful - but not against the law.

It isn’t illegal to buy, sell or be in possession of (which you would have to be, to use) meth, a controlled substance?

by Anonymousreply 213September 20, 2019 7:21 PM

Of course possessing meth is illegal, R213.

by Anonymousreply 214September 20, 2019 7:26 PM

“Notorious Big-money Democratic Donor and sexual predator…”

by Anonymousreply 215September 20, 2019 7:30 PM

[quote]R214 Of course possessing meth is illegal,

Well, you would have to buy and be in possession of meth to pay a homeless person to shoot up with it.

by Anonymousreply 216September 20, 2019 7:37 PM

R216, of course, I didn’t mean to imply otherwise. There’s always some friend-of-Ed, or sociopath, on these threads who refuses to understand that the laws concerning illegal drugs are quite expansive. In many states, facilitating another’s illegal drug use in any way can be a crime.

by Anonymousreply 217September 20, 2019 7:45 PM

Remember the college girl went to prison for encouraging that guy's suicide.

At best this is manslaughter. At worst premeditated murder. Not to mention drug distribution,

Plus perhaps conspiracy with the bought off local authorities to brush this under the carpet.

by Anonymousreply 218September 20, 2019 7:52 PM

He’s now facing federal charges in connection with the death of the second man who was found dead in his apartment. It was announced yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 219September 20, 2019 7:53 PM

I always felt like they were getting him on what they could now and then more charges would roll out and victims would appear as time went on. I don't like using the term "appear" in this context, though, since there have been stories about this man for a while now but no one with any power was really paying attention.

Although it is disturbing that there are people here implying that because these men were drug addicts, there was nothing illegal about him having, using or distributing drugs or that the death of the second man was an accident even if they believe the first one was. He should know how much to give someone to kill them if he wanted to at this point.

by Anonymousreply 220September 20, 2019 8:12 PM

Oh, Ed. Such a mess, so much drama to suck some much limp dick.

by Anonymousreply 221September 20, 2019 8:16 PM

[Quote] He should know how much to give someone to kill them if he wanted to at this point.

Then he should also have planned to get rid of the bodies. He didn't. He's obviously pond scum but... he's also an idiot. Whatever charges they have for him, I hope they put him away for the rest of his life.

by Anonymousreply 222September 20, 2019 8:17 PM

He's not new to the rodeo and would know exactly how much to administer to get the "achieved" results. I'm sensing there's intent.

by Anonymousreply 223September 20, 2019 8:37 PM

And he had a chain saw. That's not good.

by Anonymousreply 224September 20, 2019 8:42 PM

Plus metal clamps. Ick. Here is the article about the federal charge:

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by Anonymousreply 225September 20, 2019 8:48 PM

L.A. Times:

Homeless men called Democratic donor Ed Buck 'Dr. Kevorkian.' Why his did arrest take so long?

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by Anonymousreply 226September 20, 2019 8:50 PM

So is he going through withdrawal in jail now? I didn’t think you can just stop taking meth if you’re such a heavy user.

by Anonymousreply 227September 20, 2019 8:53 PM

It wasn't clear if he was using or not but in the pic in r226 he looks like a skeletor tweaker. He's probably miserable in jail if he was a regular user.

by Anonymousreply 228September 20, 2019 9:01 PM

That IS the face of meth, r228.

by Anonymousreply 229September 20, 2019 10:16 PM

He'll never get out. Skeletor is right.

by Anonymousreply 230September 21, 2019 4:27 PM

What happens to his apt if he is imprisoned?

by Anonymousreply 231September 21, 2019 5:45 PM

I'd think he keeps paying the rent through his lawyer, then if he is sentenced for a long time it is no longer considered his primary residence, and he must let it go (?) There are laws and ordinances re: rent stabilized apartments. They have to be available to the residents of whatever city they're in (I think)

It would be an odd address to have, for a new person. The landlord is perhaps not thrilled.

by Anonymousreply 232September 21, 2019 7:52 PM

The new tenant might get AA guys stopping by for a score.

by Anonymousreply 233September 21, 2019 8:02 PM

"We're here for the overdose special!"

by Anonymousreply 234September 21, 2019 8:17 PM

Take a number and have a seat, r234.

by Anonymousreply 235September 21, 2019 8:18 PM

The LA Times keeps calling him a Democratic donor. Ghost of Harry Chandler.

by Anonymousreply 236September 21, 2019 10:49 PM

R236, his actual job, running a meth den, is so down-market.

by Anonymousreply 237September 21, 2019 11:46 PM

Dirk Shafer?

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by Anonymousreply 238September 22, 2019 1:33 AM

^^ he was found dead in his car one block up from Mr. Buck's apartment.

by Anonymousreply 239September 22, 2019 1:42 AM

Wow, I forgot about Dick Shafer. If that's connected to Ed Buck that's big news.

by Anonymousreply 240September 22, 2019 3:04 AM

The town's awash in meth. But it is odd he died a block from that house.

by Anonymousreply 241September 22, 2019 3:36 AM

Isn't the Buck apartment well located, though - i.e. near popular spots - bars etc.

by Anonymousreply 242September 22, 2019 3:37 AM

Yes. It's still a quiet, residential street, just two blocks long, but there's businesses on Sunset to the north and Santa Monica Blvd. to the south

At the bottom of the street is the (now closed) French Marketplace, which was a busy gay hubbub for generations.

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by Anonymousreply 243September 22, 2019 3:50 AM
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