The key to understanding a major pillar of Trump's support: high income white people without college degrees

That's understandable. They feel that they had to work hard for what they have and Dems are giving their money away to those who don't: welfare recipients, illegal immigrants, etc. They resent others getting something for free, with no responsibility or requirements. Then, they are labeled redneck racists by liberals. Of course they would flock to hate mongers.

No college education = high levels of stupidity

This isn't new information. That is exactly why pollsters separate white people by those with a college degree and those without, rather than separating it out by income.

Education is the key variable in predicting support for Trump. Here is a 538 piece on that from three years ago.

But this is saying something slightly different R3.

This is saying that [bold]high income[/bold] whites with no education are the key. Not the fact that they don't have a college education.

I'm glad you have a subscription to the NY Times, Nomad, but we don't need multiple links a day to their site.

Hey R5, Have you never heard of private/incognito browser windows, or just typing the headline into Google, or are you just going to be a whiny, helpless bitch?

And to add to R1's comments, high-earning white people without a college degree may be more likely to feel threatened by the perceived threat of competition from "immigrants". Without a degree or some kind of advanced training certification, they may feel that their jobs would be at risk, hence their support of someone who will protect them from "those" people. If you have a degree or have a certified skill, you hardly have anything to worry about from an immigrant for whom English is a (shaky) second language.

This makes perfect sense. I live on Staten Island, which is the only Republican stronghold in NYC. Many people I know lead comfortable middle class lives as public servants (FDNY, sanitation, etc..) and they love Trump. Many of them also barely graduated high school and are the most ignorant people you’ll ever meet. They are fearful of anyone who doesn’t look or talk like them. For years when Obama was president the main gripe they always expressed was how Obama wanted to give black people everything for free (they used a much different term than “black people”). Any time some crime in the community was perpetrated by a person of color, they’d inevitably respond “oh I’m sure Obama will get them off”. They delight in knowing that Trump is as stupid as they are. They delight in every stupid thing he says and does. They consume nothing but FOX News and Breitbart. Nothing will ever change these people. Nothing.

You misunderstood me, R6. I can get to NYT articles just fine. Nomad, however, spams us every morning with articles from NYT and other major news outlets and maybe, after years of this, enough is enough.

Weird how hostile and defensive you got over a nothing comment like mine, though. You start every morning like this? Try decaf.

Ah, you ARE Nomad, R5. You're also the guy in the "apathetic voters" thread who is falsely claiming that a majority of Americans hate all Democratic policies and that's why Trump will win in 2020.

I thought you were just some freakish basement dweller who thought posting news articles every morning was his civic duty or something, but now I see that you're a troll, so fuck you. Hope you choke on a Chick-fil-a pickle, a.k.a. the closest thing to cock you'll ever get.

Sorry, R10 was for Nomad at R6.

Don't you just love when a totally ridiculous DL thread descends into even greater ridiculousness in less than 20 posts?

It’s a subroutine of a bitchy couple and I swear they do it monthly, r12.

The key to this fallacy is that college-educated whites voted for him in droves, but distanced themselves from publicly supporting him when he got even nuttier after elected- instead of "more Presidential" like they hoped.

Issues like eradicating abortion and gay marriage, and keeping their investments nice 'n fluffy will motivate them to discreetly vote for him again.

Do you think a properly utilized mooncup might be of assistance r13?

Clinton won college educated whites (52%-43%), while whites without a college degree backed Trump 52%-44% r14.

Nevermind, looks like I was looking at the data wrong. That was for all college graduates regardless of race.

Like Trump, these people are completely insecure about themselves. Most inherited their money/businesses, like Trump, yet like Trump, think they are the ones solely responsible for their position in life.

Born on third base and going through life thinking they hit a triple.

Wrong group, R18. They are not the result of inherited money.

high income white people without college degrees - sound like drug dealers or career criminals.

Union factory workers, R20, or public servants like R8 above.

I don't believe it. My BIL who is a Dr., My son who is VP of a financial firm and a friend that is a funeral director, all college educated, all with above average IQ's all supported Trump. The majority of people that support Trump are those that only look out for themselves or can just never have enough.