I can't stand people against reforming health care, because the arguments for why they are against it are ignorant of how the healthcare industry works.
Having health care connected to jobs is plain foolish. It has become another excuse for stagnant wages, since people either sacrifice better opportunities for better insurance, or employers claim it's costing so much money, so fuck getting a decent raise.
Those with employer based insurance are more vulnerable than anyone else is. If you end up seriously injured, or ill, you will lose your job and insurance anyway. Tell me again what the point of "good insurance", if it won't be there the second you need it?? Most end up having to go on government insurance, because they lose their job. All that money you paid for years, went in their pocket. Hope you get that through your head r164.
The ACA was an attempt to do something because of the insanely rising costs. Anyone with a brain realized it was quickly headed towards a disaster. Right beforehand, employers were switching to high deductible plans at a fast rate. Insurance could tell you to fuck off for ANY preexisting conditions, which even included pregnancy.
People with private insurance pay 3x the amount for the same treatment. Please tell me, which industry can get away with not showing costs ahead of time to "customers", charge 3x as much fir the same service, and can deny you anyway? That's the result of for profit healthcare. It's about as smart as for profit prisons.
Anyone here claiming it would be too expensive, is wrong. 30% of costs go to "administration", which is why hospital CEOS are making 10 mil per year, yet crying broke. There's also no reason why private insurance would completely cease to exist. Like Medicare patients, your happy ass can pick out whatever supplemental you'd like.
Every year, insurance is going up. Copays raise $5, or they cut services. You're getting charged for everyone no matter what -- that's why your insurance pays 3x the amount for service. It comes out of your pocket in many ways. That 30k fool, bragging about his insurance? It probably cost a third, but since the house doesn't lose, it cost you 3x more.
We'd also have less ill people, reducing the costs almost immediately. Do you know how many people skip simple inexpensive testing, only to end up needing expensive chronic care, we end up paying for anyway? Too many to count.