The origin of Datalounge inside jokes official thread

Is the ongoing Meryl/Glenn battle of the wills supported by one poster, or is there a cabal churning this shit out?

The origin of Vivian Vance appearing in every poll?

Is —Salem a black TV cat owned by a TV witch named Sabrina.

What is the yellow troll, is it an anti Asian racist or something more?

The amazing thing about many young people nowadays is they grew up with all the world's information at their fingertips, yet they have no ability to suss things out or read between the lines. Furthermore they are incapable of researching information. Anything slightly clever and referential, must be explained and spoon fed to them.

R3 ...

Catherine Zeta Jones is famous for claiming to be years younger than she actually is. I think that the DL joke builds on that.

I knew a girl who knew the story and history of every Datalounge inside joke. But then she died.

The point of inside jokes is: you had to be there.

What does "WELP" mean? I've seen the phrase "WELP troll" mentioned a few times in the BRF threads.

R12 how the hell do you look up the origin of obscure inside jokes that originate on one website? Especially one that limits searches to like a month?

If you don’t know the answer to OP, just say so.

Sometimes those unhinged Joan Crawford swats, with thin wire hangers across her backside, are insufficient; simply adrenalin building. You have to fully commit to DEFCON 1 to contain your petulant blond urchin. Then you slap your halo onto your forehead, tear up and take questions.

[quote] Anything slightly clever and referential, must be explained and spoon fed to them.

Clever rarely enters the picture when it comes to DL in jokes.

Die in a grease fire is ‘unmatched.’ Sometimes you just need a flash point and singed remains to stop the stupidity.

‘Verificatia of sizemeat’ is to safeguard against the image that he may be a Princess Tinymeat.

[quote]If you don’t know the answer to OP, just say so.

Oh, WE know.

I've Googled "WELP" but I can't find what it means.

"Welp" is the twee manner some women say "well" as an interjection.

The Meryl/Glenn thing is an imaginary feud between the two great actresses that echoes the Joan/Bette feud. For a while there was a similar, ongoing feud between child stars Abigail Breslin and Dakota Fanning.

It’s rather chicken and egg but the story goes Miss Cathy Jones was set to attend some soirée at the White House which necessitated a Secret Service security check, bonus because she’s a foreigner. Well as it turns out said check revealed the discrepancy in her stated age and real one, and some SS agent got sloppy and blabbed.

Thank you, R20

[quote]Die in a grease fire is ‘unmatched.’

Why thank you so much!

I thought the Welp troll had something to do with Harry Styles. I don't know, and don't much care, except that I've been accused, repeatedly. of being the Welp troll. I'm just a nothingburger gay man from Ohio, so it's weird to me to be identified as someone else, who I don't know. Either way, I usually get the jokes. I think there are only a few that remain mysteries to me. But I actually like mysteries.

I think the Welp Troll said "welp" a lot in his posts in the British Royal Family threads and the Welp Troll's opinions enraged someone who would be come known as the Welp Troll accuser.

[quote] I'm just a nothingburger gay man from Ohio

Don't sell yourself short! You're way more than that: you're a gay man who used the reviled phrase "nothingburger."

Cheryl and her stinky pussy never get mentioned anymore. I think that joke was based on a real poster from years ago.

So what's CZJ real age?

R26, Thanks! I get called a 'frau' a lot, too. I'm not really sure why, except I like doggehs and kittehs. I thought lots of us do. I think I only intentionally adopted a frau persona on the 'Cradling my Mug' thread, where I was Brooke-Lynn. I'm a gay man who actually likes women.,

^ Calling pets "doggehs and kittehs" is not going to help dispel the notion that you are an enormous frau, r29.

R30, Believe it or not, I actually have a hefty peen. My older brother used to call it 'The Redwood'. I'm a man, but a very gentle man. Black hair, olive skin, and green eyes. I'm shy.

R31 Please tell me you don’t call children Kiddos!

I think r24 sounds nice. Even though he used "nothingburger" without irony.

EJ Dimera or the actor that plays him as a 13X8" dick.

No, I've never called children 'kiddohs';. I'm fine with kids .but not infatutaed with them, When I was younger I think my BF and I might have raised a couple of kids. But that time has passed.

“Jackie on assistance” was some gay’s phone autocorrecting “Jackie Onassis” and the idea of it is just *too funny*. Homosexual catnip — when I read that thread I immediately wanted to pick up on the misspelling — but every joke I wanted to make had already been made!

Recently, somebody resurrected a really old thread and, inadvertently, the source of an old DL joke was revealed. I have now totally forgotten which old joke it was. My thought as I found the origin of this old joke was that you could never have found it if you tried (e.g., by Googling). I should have bookmarked the thread. Alas ...

R36 Bootsy, I just wanted to tell you that I always enjoy reading your posts.

[quote]For a while there was a similar, ongoing feud between child stars Abigail Breslin and Dakota Fanning.

For a while? FOR A WHILE? WTF, did that bitch tell you she has been forgiven? Fuck that Cunt! Hell, no! Where’s my blade?

WHET instead of WEHT

Pron instead of Porn

Jandra instead of genre

There is the Welp troll and another troll that would accompany it, I just forgot its name, if anyone remember.

I'm hungry. It's not a joke.

Gee, I wonder, r40. What could possibly have been the origins of those DL memes? Perhaps a pattern of some sort?

The Welp Troll is the one that says things like "Welp!" "OOF!" etc. Welp is by itself and OOF! always begins a sentence.

"Yikes!" may also be involved.

R37, it was the Jackie on assistance meme on the thread about celeb being out and about among the civilians.

OK, r43, the first two are probably typos that for some reason caught on. The last one appeared in a post where the poster apparently thought jandra was a word because he heard it spoken but never saw it in writing so he wrote it phonetically or something. We thought it was absurdly funny so kept using jandra instead of genre.

Welp as a version of Well is really common in the US and has been used since at least the 40s, and probably a lot earlier. According to Merriam-Webster Welp has a sense of resignation not found in well. I agree, and find that I use it most often before a goodbye like when I head off to work. "Welp, time for me to go."

I believe I was the one who originated the Dakota Fanning/Abigail Breslin feud. It started off as a joke Kathy Griffin did on the Oscars red carpet, asking for prayers for young Dakota who was supposedly in rehab. There was a thread on here about the "tacky" joke, and I just created her bad girl persona. The cranky, chainsmoking child actress wrote itself. Abigail (Flabigail) Breslin happened to be a contemporary child actress who it made sense to compete with, as my version of Dakota was incredibly jealous and petty. Dakota was usually lounging at the pool and would terrorize her sister Elle with menial jobs and typical assistant duties. I cannot for the life of me remember what I had her always drinking. Maybe Redbull and vodka? I wish I had saved some of the old posts. One of my favorites was "An Open Letter To Lindsay Lohan" where Dakota, a child star very much in control, doled out pearls of wisdom to a wayward Linds.

Stevie Nicks, the mother, the daughter and the cunt bone.

Also, "Has Susan Dey commented yet?"

The Nasty Pig thread, by chance R37? That was the origin of shopbottom, if I recall.

"Pron" or "pr0n" was popular on Usenet because a lot of people had servers through their universities, and the schools would automatically delete anything with the word "porn" in it. It was misspelled to get past the filters.

Surely NO ONE needs this explaining?

Thank you Naked!

[quote] There is the Welp troll and another troll that would accompany it, I just forgot its name, if anyone remember.

There was a nut in the BRF threads who was signing their posts "The Adderall Troll." I don't follow those threads closely because doing so makes me suicidal.

R42 / Darfur Orphan 🚶-

Just smoke copious amounts of pot, silly!

Actually for an alternative explanation: Whelp Definition of whelp : to give birth to —used of various carnivores and especially the dog. In other words the bitch is having puppies.

Who is Erna and why do dataloungers hate him?

R46, you're wrong. "Jandra" came from some woman on a reality show -- I don't remember which one -- who said "jandra" instead of "genre." I imagine you could find more details if you did a DL search.

r58 I thought it was Bo Bice or someone like him on "American Idol."

r36/r54's name is based on a DL inside joke.

r49 The Susan Dey thing came from the threads on David Cassidy's death, wherein there were references to a lot of his friends and co-stars tweeting their condolences and remembrances, with the notable exception of Miss Dey.

"The World Trade Center is an unsatiable bottom" comes from the original 9/11 thread. Same with "The sky was so blue that day" IIRC.

And can also confirm that "Jacky on assistance" was supposed to be Jacky Onassis, but was auto corrected by someones phone.

Christmas moose: because someone wanted to make "Moose au chocolate" for Christmas? It was something like that, can't remember properly anymore.

Nacreous layers of...

eat your Cak with Graxy!

[quote] Christmas moose: because someone wanted to make "Moose au chocolate" for Christmas? It was something like that, can't remember properly anymore.

There is something called the Christmas Mouse that retailers have been trying to push on to the frauen for decades, and there used to be a Datalounger who every year at Christmas time would post as the Christmas Mouse. Someone misspelled it as "Christmas Moose," and a new meme was born.

[quote]"Jandra" came from some woman on a reality show -- I don't remember which one -- who said "jandra" instead of "genre."

It was actually a guy with long blond hair on an early season of "American Idol" who did not know the word "genre," and would always says "jandra" to Ryan Seacrest.

OP, when you say "jokes" are you implying that these things are actually funny?

[quote] Same with "The sky was so blue that day" IIRC.

It didn't come from the original 9/11 thread--it came much later from threads on 9/11 when people were reminiscing about the event, and someone made that idiotic observation. Apparently say this often when reminiscing about horrific and unexpected events (like the Kent State massacre), as if it is to suggest God was trying to signal something horrible was going to happen by an act of cosmic irony.

[quote] Also, "Has Susan Dey commented yet?"

Someone kept posting this on threads when David Cassidy had died because Danny Bonaduce and Shirley Jones had released their condolences online. Susan Dey infamously hated doing "The Partridge family," and stayed away from the other cast members, and so she never released her condolences. So the next time someone famous died, someone joked, "Has Susan Dey released a comment yet?" and a new meme was born when anyone famous dies.

Erna is a long-standing Datalounge troll who posts inappropriately--she goes back almost to the beginning of the forum, when "she" was known as Mrs. Patrick Campbell. (I think she had another name too.) She always complains about women (whom she refers to as "fish" and "stinkfish," pretends she lives wealthily in Europe, and reminisces about big-dicked men who fucked her in the past (whom she always objectifies as "sizemeat"). her other running gag--hilarious only to herself--is that she renders the plurals of nouns that end in "-ion" as "-ia" (as in "verificatia"). She has never been in the slightest bit funny, but she thinks she's a laugh riot, She is much hated by other posters because she's so boring.

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R57 Erna’s a man? I thought she was a real woman who infiltrated the inner depth of DL and that’s why she was hated.

No, she's a male troll trying to do a drag queen routine which doesn't really work.

Most of these old jokes were written by Julianne Moore, seriously.

[quote]"she" was known as Mrs. Patrick Campbell. (I think she had another name too.)

Catherine of Siena

Erna lives with 7 cats in Altoona, PA, but you didn’t hear it from me.

I believe the newest meme is the evil billionaire brain surgeon, Marlo Thomas.

Deidre Hall's choice is NOT to wear a ribbon.

The Christmas Moose was originally posted as a satirical reaction to the ridiculous, over-the-top adulation for the Christmas Mouse. His snout is phatic, as a bonus.

Plus, he really needed the money and Muriel offered him a deal.

Friend of Christmas Moose [FOCM) is derived from all the posts that end “posting for a friend”.

Actually, I posted down the first Christmas Moose reference and link during the initial Christmas Mouse thread. No one remembers the pioneers.

[quote]Is the ongoing Meryl/Glenn battle of the wills supported by one poster, or is there a cabal churning this shit out?

On the DL one poster IS a cabal.

Sign your name, cumquat @ R81!

Was it season 4's Bo Bice who coined "jandra"?

No, I refuse.

Why is there no Merv Griffin troll posting from the great beyond and skeeving out all the chorus boys?

Even I, a stately old home of Datalounge can't remember where "nacreaous layer of permacum" started.

oh dear...that was homo.

r84, r67 - See r59 (and try to keep up.)

I believe that "nacreaous layer of permacum" was used in reference to a NYC gym frequented by homosexuals. Equinox perhaps?

"Nacreous," not "nacreaous."

I seem to remember that it was on a thread about the most disgusting jobs.

What is the origin of Sure, Jan?

The 1995 Brady Bunch Movie.

"Nice try, Jan."

"Has anyone checked on Kelly Osbourne?"

When I first came to Datalounge, the over-100 "So young..." actress was Luise Rainer. Was there anyone before her?

Also, "soft butch sous chef" (I think that's it); I don't know what it all means, but I'm intrigued.

My favorite, the Darfur Orphan, just seemed to appear from nowhere, as he does in many threads.

What is the origin of straight down the shitter?

“Straight down the shitter” Is a colloquial expression that is not unique to DataLounge.

How can I remember and recognize the cumquat @R81 if he won’t sign his name?

I didn't sign my name back then either, so there's nothing to reveal. Sadly, there's no mystery. But I swear, the original Christmas Moose way back when was all me. I even remember the cute graphic I linked from an Inn in New England somewhere. Back then there weren't a billion online pictures of Christmas Moose to sift through.

Darfur Orphan started out with a classic letter written to him by his adoptive friend, Dave.

[quote]What's the origin of various inside jokes of Datalounge.

You're very lucky, OP, that your thread has had 100+ replies (and mostly useful ones, too). At one time, because of another inside joke, you'd have been met with snarky retorts from people refusing to help because "I don't know you!"

That one, which was popular for a while, came from a famous thread about Red Dragon cheese. The OP of that thread wanted to buy some cheese, but the snooty proprietor of the shop was reluctant to sell him any because, among other things, "I don't know you!"

Waitta-minute, R81, you lie, J’accuse! You are not the real Christmas Moose! Show me the receipts!

R103, oh, right, Dave’s letters were hilarious!

Have some compassion, r104. It was the Friday of a holiday weekend and my Red Dragon regulars hadn’t checked in yet.

What would you have done if a complete stranger raced up on his Lark then fixed one rheumy eye on you and demanded three pounds of [italic]your[/italic] Red Dragon? Three pounds! Why did he need that much?

He wouldn’t even stand up to speak to me. I had to lean over to hear him as his voice wasn’t much more than a wavering-yet-malevolent hiss. That forced upon me an overhead view all the way down the deeply plunging neckline of his caftan. He wasn’t wearing panties.

Helenesque by Helen Lawson.

Self-explanatory.

R180 Sounds like a perfume.

Seeing as you explained so nicely, R107 (Very Nice Lady at the Cheese Counter), I'll try to be a little more understanding. I had, in fact, forgotten that the Red Dragon OP wanted so much cheese.

Three pounds! Yes, that changes things a lot.

[quote] Is the ongoing Meryl/Glenn battle of the wills supported by one poster, or is there a cabal churning this shit out?

This is one of the most unfunny recurring themes on this site.

*kisses doll*

R111 I always took it as some desperate plea to capture Ryan Murphy’s attention and get them cast as themselves in the next season of Feud.

[quote]Also, "soft butch sous chef" (I think that's it); I don't know what it all means, but I'm intrigued.

Male lawyer found murdered in a DC hotel. Police released images from the stairwell camera hoping for the public's assistance in identifying the male suspect. DL assisted by pointing out *that's no man, baby,* but rather appeared to be a soft butch woman wearing chef uniform pants and clogs. Much effort at crime solving across multiple threads. One DLer recognized the victim from an online hookup site and contacted the police, providing them with the burner email account the (married to a woman) victim used to arrange meets with tricks, which helped them to track down the killer.

"All seemed to breathe freedom and peace, and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils."

This has its origins in Queen Victoria's diary, after she and the royal consort had visited Balmoral, Scotland.

It's now used about any locale that ever comes up in DL, whether Dubai, Mogadishu, Kabul, Tokyo, Columbus, Ohio.

Once Around the Garden was a single trip to the salad bar and Autumn Harvest was as many trips as you wanted.

And here I though that Brendad Ickson coined 'jandra', in her illiterate and dim-witted way.

I wish this great quote would make a DL comeback:

"The amazing thing about many young people nowadays is they grew up with all the world's information at their fingertips, yet they have no ability to suss things out or read between the lines. Furthermore they are incapable of researching information. Anything slightly clever and referential, must be explained and spoon fed to them."

Yawn, it's the "I'm 85 years old, and I make it my personal mission to complain about young people!" troll. The OP is probably 65 like all the rest of the datalounge, and you don't know how the internet works if you think a google search will reveal the meaning behind a website's inside jokes

r114, is correct, except for the fact that police never claimed the suspect was a man

[quote] you don't know how the internet works if you think a google search will reveal the meaning behind a website's inside jokes

Agreed. The very function of a message board is to leave and answer messages.

BILL TAYLOR IS MY FAVORITE AND I WISH TO HEAR MORE OF HIS BLESSINGS.

Was "nacreous layers of permacum" from an old Mike Rowe thread? That's where I first encountered it, but it may have been around before that.

R118 I see it a lot. It could easily be the mission statement for Datalounge. Beside, of course, the perfect: “pointless bitchery”!

Waters’, sorry!

What are the origins of the yellow skin troll? Is he an Asian supremacist like John/PMBT?

R105, of course I would never claim to actually BE The Christmas Moose. I'd never make claims so far above my station. I'm just the humble nobody who first brought his glorious holiday mooseness to DL's attention.

Oh, cumquat @R127, I’m so sorry for the accusation and misunderstanding. I get copywrite violations all the time, so I’m really sensitive about it. I send you a moose smooch from afar.

Is the Christmas Moose in any way related to or affiliated with the much-missed Christmas Mouse?

Oh, gosh no, R129.! He’s not affiliated,, that’s for sure! And I’ve seen an Ancestry tree, and there’s no relation. I can vouch for that!

I want to see dinosours.

What is the origin of the DL meme about baseball player Anthony Recker having a “womanly ass”?

Ugh, almost nothing referenced here is funny or entertaining. Red Dragon and Once Around the Garden were amusing in their day. And I did enjoy the Dakota Fanning/Abigail Breslin war, in part because unlike the typical DL inside joke, it died a timely death and did not continue to crop up years after it lost its luster.

[quote]I want to see dinosours.

It's "dinasours."

Dinasours are full of parasights. Stay away.

It's annoying that I remember some inside jokes happening, but have totally forgotten the context., e.g. 'surprise anal', though I do remember the joke 'surprise planal' coming out of in, in a light aircraft crash thread.

What is an EST?

Elaborate Scenario Troll

What about the skin color thing? I don't get it?

I don't get the yellow skin thing, either

There was some poster here obsessed with white guys whose skin had a yellowish undertone. That's all there is to the yellow skin thing. It only became a thing because the ys troll posted so prolifically.

[quote] There was some poster here obsessed with white guys whose skin had a yellowish undertone

Who are guys with skin like that? I have a hard time picturing any other than the Simpsons.

And he would always follow up comments about it with questions like, What guys have skin like that?

He mentioned in a post a couple of weeks ago that he just liked ethnic guys, or certain ethnic guys, I forget.

[quote] What is the origin of the DL meme about baseball player Anthony Recker having a “womanly ass”?

He seems like such a “minor league” personality over which to develop a meme.

R90, David Barton gym.

Is the yellow skin troll Asian or white with a rice queen fetish?

[quote]Catherine Zeta Jones is famous for claiming to be years younger than she actually is

That's not actually true, in fact, it's the opposite. CZJ was a child actress, one of the orphans in the original London cast of Annie in 1980. She starred in the West End cast of "42nd Street" in the 80s while still a teenager, and became a British TV star in "The Darling Buds of May" in the early 1990s. She has never been able to hide or lie about her age because she has so much public history, so she has always been open about it. She turns 50 in another week and is owning it.

These days, I don’t think it’s possible to successfully lie about your age. Due to Google, I mean.

r149, it's easier for C listers because no one cares about them enough to go digging....it's harder when you rise to the A-list or B-list. Ask Rebel Wilson.

An explanation of the Yellow Skin Troll: In African-American culture, there is a long-standing tradition of what used to be called "high yellow," which means people with black ancestry who can pass as white. (There have been over the decades many mixed-race people who passed as white, but the laws and American culture always argued that if you had a certain small percentage of African blood in you, you were still black.) People who "passed" for white were said to have yellow skin: the woman who inspired "the Yellow Rose of Texas," Emily West Morgan was of mixed race, and Time magazine was referring to Alexandre Dumas as late as 1929 as "the High Yellow Fictioneer."

There is a historical tradition in US African-American culture of being able to spot mixed-race people who actively pass for white. My guess is that the Yellow Skin Troll is fascinated with this and wants to see which celebrities might really be of mixed ancestry and are passing.

The Yellow Skin troll, btw, is also the Womanly Butt Troll, and posts obsessively about Anthony Recker (a minor league baseball player who famously has a huge ass) and is always posting picks of men who either have or are digitially altered to have great big butts. This is also a big thing in African-American culture--an obsession with big asses.

[quote]It's "dinasours."

Are you sure? That can’t be right. Otherwise the Flintstone’s dog would’ve been named Dina.

I don’t know, something just looks off.

R151, I always thought YST was referring to Derek Hough.

[quote] always posting picks of men who either have or are digitially altered to have great big butts.

Is he also the postimg troll who posts pics of random Latino guys with wide, fat asses?

For God's sake, OP — let poor Jani Lane rest in peace.

R151, that doesn’t seem to fit the yellow skin troll. He seems to focus exclusively on white guys, rather than white-passing guys, which makes me wonder whether he’s white or Asian. There’s a “yellow bone” troll who seems to fit your explanation better.

Let me ask this really basic question: Why is Muriel called Muriel?

[quote] He seems to focus exclusively on white guys, rather than white-passing guys,

No, the YST's constant thing is that he names white male celebrities like Brad Pitt, and wants to know if other people think these celebrities have yellow skin. His implication is that they are secretly mixed-race (white and black).

It's not a thing about Asian-American passing.

You're terrible, Muriel!

"Dinasours" was a misspelling someone once made in the original post of a thread about "Lost." It quickly became a meme here, like other misspellings and typos: "Cak" and "graxy" (neither of which are funny) and "Lens Dunham" (which IS funny--it sounds like it's a way of calling her wide, as in "wide lens") and "Jackie On Assistance" (an Autocorrect error someone posted that is explained upthread).

This is a tangent, but I occasionally like to write “it’s a doggie-dog world” or “irregardless”, because it guarantees a lively thread.

[quote] Let me ask this really basic question: Why is Muriel called Muriel?

I think it was from an AMA-type or Q&A thread several years ago around the type of the format switch where the Editor (aka moderator) signed posts as Muriel. That is taken from Muriel’s Wedding, a gay-popular Australian film. It has remained since.

[quote] No, the YST's constant thing is that he names white male celebrities like Brad Pitt, and wants to know if other people think these celebrities have yellow skin. His implication is that they are secretly mixed-race (white and black). It's not a thing about Asian-American passing.

Color me shocked, so to speak, if the yellow skin troll is black. I always pictured him as a white guy or an Asian guy like John/PMBT (who I thought was the same person as the yellow skin troll for a while).

Correcting the spelling of someone’s properly spelled word also works wonders, r161.

R151 Thank you, I didn’t know it was connected to “high yellow” which I am familiar with. So it has nothing to do with Asians, Simpsons or emoji faces? So are they also the same person obsessed with white adjacent?

[quote] The Yellow Skin troll, btw, is also the Womanly Butt Troll, and posts obsessively about Anthony Recker (a minor league baseball player who famously has a huge ass)

Why do you think they’re the same person? Yellow skin and womanly butts don’t seem to share underlying fetishistic characteristics.

[quote] The Yellow Skin troll, btw, is also the Womanly Butt Troll, and posts obsessively about Anthony Recker (a minor league baseball player who famously has a huge ass)

Does he actually have a womanly butt, or is that just a DL thing?

[quote]I want to see dinosours.

What? We don't get no love?

You'd have to ask the Womanly Butt Troll, r167. Most of us don't look at women's butts and couldn't tell you.

Ah, but then you knew that already, since you ARE the Womanly Butt Troll!

[quote] Why do you think they’re the same person?

Troll-dar.

How did caftan be the fashion here?

Does Vivian Vance have anything to do with J. Edgar Hoover???

R44 - How does one get on the Christmas Card list of the Welp Troll?

[quote]Does Vivian Vance have anything to do with J. Edgar Hoover???

Only in that they had similar tastes in housecoats and daytime frocks.

R174 - Tim Gunn's books he told a story about J. Edgar Hoover cross-dressing as Vivian Vance and presenting himself as Vivian Vance.

r172 As a matter of fact Tim Gunn tells a very interesting story about Viv and J. Edgar:

GUNN: Yes. My father was a career FBI agent, 26 years. And he was - well, he was an agent but he ended up being J. Edgar Hoover's ghostwriter, speechwriter - took care of all the correspondents and his office was two doors down from Mr. Hoover's office.

And growing up, my sister and I loved the FBI tour. And this one particular year, I was nine or 10 and my sister was therefore six or seven. And my father said, you kids are going to be so excited - Vivian Vance is in Mr. Hoover's office. And I was a huge "I Love Lucy" fan. Would you like to meet her? Well, yes, of course. So we did and it was lovely and she was charming.

Years later, my father's in a nursing home with Alzheimer's disease - he's not at the Thanksgiving table where family has gathered. And all these rumors are out about Hoover being a cross-dresser.

SAGAL: Yes.

GUNN: So I was reflecting upon that time in his office with Vivian Vance.

(LAUGHTER)

GUNN: And I turned to my sister and I said, upon reflection, I know it was years and years ago - doesn't it strike you as odd that Hoover wasn't in the office?

(LAUGHTER)

ROCCA: Wow.

JESSI KLEIN: Wow.

ROCCA: My question is...

PETER GROSZ: So it's not a Vivian Vance story?

GUNN: No.

ROCCA: How was J. Edgar Hoover as Vivian Van dressed - which is really what matters?

GUNN: A stunning house dress.

KLEIN: If that's the look he wanted, he got a good one.

GUNN: But I have to tell you this too, I wrote about this in one of my books - "Gunn's Golden Rules." It was published by a division of Simon & Schuster. The Simon & Schuster legal team went to task on that book. They spent two weeks with it and they contacted Vivian Vance's two biographers - neither of whom knew anything about this visit to the FBI, and then they went to the FBI to look at their visitor logs - no Vivian Vance.

Bump

R137/R138 Elaborate Scenario Thread, not Troll

No. It is “troll.”

Quit beating up on the trolls as they feeling too!

r148 But back in the early 90s it was harder to find receipts, because the internet didn't exist.. She seemed way older than the age she claimed to be. So much so, that it gave credence to the rumors that she was lying about her age but no one could prove it.

"WE BOUGHT A ZOO!!!"

-explain.

Does anyone recall how or why we gave Jonathan Taylor-Thomas the moniker of 'qwerty'? Or did he dub himself thus?

I've been posting here well over a decade by now, but I think that one slightly predates even my arrival. Or I just don't remember because it's minutiae and we haven't actually heard from the man on the DL since he first moved out to Silver Lake.

[quote]I occasionally like to write “it’s a doggie-dog world”

I have NEVER seen someone write "it's a doggie-dog world" on DL, and I absolutely love it. It's cute!

I'm sorry miss, but with all due respect, I've got problems of my own.

Damn.

[quote]Erna is a long-standing Datalounge troll who posts inappropriately--she goes back almost to the beginning of the forum, when "she" was known as Mrs. Patrick Campbell. (I think she had another name too.)

Catherine of Siena and also Miss Helen Bedd

[quote]Does anyone recall how or why we gave Jonathan Taylor-Thomas the moniker of 'qwerty'?

Someone claiming to be a closeted actor used to post here under the name "qwerty" and some people theorized it was Jonathan Taylor-Thomas. Whether or not they were correct, and whether "qwerty" was even really anyone famous, I have no clue.

[quote]Erna is a long-standing Datalounge troll

Cunt!

My pussy (still) stinks.

Chambo

Colto

Bunnika - the ultimate fibrofrau - and "handfasting" and her throuple with the baby.

How did Chambo and Colto get started?

Here's the thread that gave us Once Around the Garden.

[quote]and also Miss Helen Bedd

I thought Miss Helen Bedd was someone else? That guy who was an actor on that show with Dylan McDermott and William Shatner.

[quote]How did Chambo and Colto get started?

Sheer linguistic lameitude.

[quote] R142: There was some poster here obsessed with white guys whose skin had a yellowish undertone

[quote] Who are guys with skin like that? I have a hard time picturing any...

Guys with jaundice resultant from hepatitis, that’s who.

[quote]Who are guys with skin like that?

High yellers.

[quote] There was some poster here obsessed with white guys whose skin had a yellowish undertone. Who are guys with skin like that? I have a hard time picturing any...

Nick Stahl is always my go-to example.

Bump

What about that running joke that Daphne Zuniga was the most powerful woman in Hollywood? Something to do with the fact that she shared the table with Spielberg at some function?

The same thing with all the bad things in Hollywood happening in front of Jasmine Guy's house?

Miss Helen Bedd was definitely not the same individual as Mrs Patrick Campbell aka Erna. But DL dug up alleged unflattering real-life photos of each which ultimately drove the excruciatingly annoying Miss Helen Bedd away and probably has driven Erna insane.

A star was born this summer with Palm Springs Mike.

Also, "the World Trade Center is an Insatiable Bottom" should be on t-shirts.

It’s Tom Hanks. It has to be Tom Hanks.

Dear Lord in Heaven!

Who is Palm Springs Mike?

R206, Palm Springs Mike entered our lives with reply #8.

And proved how low standards have sunk R207.

R208 has no friends in real life, and the ones she thinks she has all hate her.

No 209, Mike is just not to the level of many classic DL threads. Sorry snowflake.

WTF is up with Gertie and the cows?

R210 = frau.

R210 = Palm Springs resident that deals with actual "Mikes" in daily life. They aren't funny.

Gertie is a cow who participates in the “Monday Morning Moo” threads, along with ~250 other barn animals. She on the membership committee so IM her if you want “in”. It’s a nice antidote to the sad sacks who post on the Sunday Night Dread Threads.

[quote]Helenesque by Helen Lawson.

That was me. I first told the story in the old "What's Your Favorite Helen Lawson Show?" thread (regrettably lost several years ago). I told the story of cleaning out my mother's basement and finding several cases of Lawsons's signature fragrance from when Mom was a shopgirl in a department store. I also told how Mom and her co-workers called it "Helen in a Drum". Thanks for remembering!