This Just In: Eva Longoria Was Bullied on the Desperate Housewives Set

It’s so funny that Terri is usually cast as the sweet, earnest, eager-to-impress one.

The Carver twins would sword fight in front of her.

Wow, Terri can even bully a Mexican spitfire? Many people are saying she’s an American hero.

Well Nicollette Sheridan did say Teri Hatcher was "the meanest woman in the world" during her trial against Marc Cherry...

Teri is the cunt that keeps on cunting.

Cuntina! Bring me the axe!

I recall years ago Teri putting on a big poor little meek me act with the entertainment shows (ET, Acccess, etc.) about how Ryan Seacrest ghosted her after one date. LOL.

I'd be shocked if this wasn't Teri. She must be the best actress because I was always of the opinion that others were a gang and she seemed sweet. Why is she this monster jekyl and Hyde character.

Nancy O’Dell says with a big smile, “You’re gorgeous. What the fuck is wrong with you that not a single guy will get near ya, CRAAZYBITCH!”

Gosh Bree really was so immaculate and elegant, I loved her!

Why is there always either one mean girl or one crazy bitch who makes all the other girls lives miserable on female centric shows?

I always felt like all the women besides Nicollette were kinda clique-y. I'd love to sit down with her one day and just let her spill all the tea. Everyone who's met her seems to think she's a sweetheart.

I think Terri was under the impression that Susan was the lead, much like Dorothy was the lead of The Golden Girls in a way, but was still part of an ensemble of more colorful characters. She probably got mad that some of the other actors and characters upstaged her (namely Nicollette).

I don’t care to read this, but if there’s a hallmark behind the scenes TV movie The Desperate Actresses, Behind Desperate Housewives I’d watch it, especially if they cast it with washed up sitcom actresses.

R12 Yep, absolutely. Teri had been Lois Lane on a hit-ish Superman series. Only Marcia Cross was known otherwise, and that was for a soapy melodrama. The other women were “nobodies” when the series launched, and Teri was the young, pretty, affable character. She was positioned to be the series star. But it was an ensemble after all and her character became grating beside the more intriguing Marcia Cross character and the sexier Eva character and the superior acting of Felicity Huffman, who sort of had a thankless, shitty role at forst—the straightman playing against the funny one, the demented one and the sexy one—and yet became many people’s favorite. In the photo at OP, notice Teri is pushed to the outskirts and Eva is in the center. If Teri is a narcissist, then imagine how enraged she’d have been to see the no-name daytime soap star get the focus.

Was it racism?

Nicolette Sheridan, was as well known if not more so than Marcia Cross. Knots Landing was a much bigger hit than Melrose Place.

How Eva got cast on that show as a supermodel I will never understand. She is barely over 5 feet tall. I'd bully the mousy midget too.

Knots Landing had been off the air for over a decade when Housewives premiered.

Was Sheridan cast from the beginning? For some reason I remember her as a later addition.

Never watched a single minute of the show and don't know anything about the behind-the-scene, but I still chose Hatcher and I see the majority chose her, too.

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I didn't watch the show but heard the scuttlebutt around town about what bitches those women were (with the exception of Huffman)

What interesting is during the run of that show, Huffman was in the critically acclaimed Independent film, "TransAmerica" She was nominated for an academy award! That must've pissed off those bitches so much!!!!

She was well cast in Coraline.

R18 Yes, but it was still iconic and well remembered by the public.

The entire letter is interesting. The other cast members apparently didn't want to do a "Friends" group negotiation with her and they never came to any of her charity functions.

I watched it and vaguely followed the behind the scenes drama. IIRC no one got along with Teri Hatcher and the other women rarely spoke about her or walked red carpets with her. I think Nicolette Sheridan was part of the main cast from the get go but was originally supposed to be a recurring character. While I believe she's crazy I'm not sure Nicolette would have bullied Eva who was one of the four stars.

Eva Longoria should write less.

An original promo. I guess Sheridan was featured as a primary cast member from the beginning after all. Hatcher’s character really was the weakest link, as it was written.

I always wondered why they replaced Sheryl Lee with Brenda Strong.

Definitely not Marcia. I think Longoria was just really focused on making Huffman sound really kind. Cross and Huffman were the only ones who showed up for Longoria getting her star on the walk of fame last year and Cross was also present at a lot of Longoria's charity things. I think Longoria is just trying hard to present Huffman in a favorable light to the judge.

Definitely not Marcia. I think Longoria was just really focused on making Huffman sound really kind. Cross and Huffman were the only ones who showed up for Longoria getting her star on the walk of fame last year and Cross was also present at a lot of Longoria's charity things. I think Longoria is just trying hard to present Huffman in a favorable light to the judge.

Call me a sucker, but I am moved by Huffman’s letter. It’s emotionally transparent and contrite. I feel compelled to believe everything she wrote is true.

The voice over of Brenda String worked a lot better as it was more upbeat and chirpy. If you watch the original with Sheryl Lee it isn't as effective as she's quite flat in her delivery and doesn't get the most out of the black humor.

Sheridan originally read for Bree but was offered Edie who was primarily a supporting, recurring character from the pilot. She was briefly upgraded to 4th lead in season 3 when Marcia was on maternity leave.

Brenda Strong has a great voice and she has done a lot of narration. I wonder if that has worked against her performance career (in addition to being taller than many of her male costars), because she’s a good actress and gorgeous and should get more onscreen work.

R33 I liked her on the new Dallas.

Eva Longoria should just fucking name the person who allegedly bullied her. What's the worst thing that could happen to her? A Twitter war?

R35 She didn’t say this in a press interview for revenge or to shame anyone. She wrote it in a letter submitted to a judge that she probably didn’t expect to be broadcast publicly.

Oh, sorry, R36. Didn't know that.

R31, from the moment that Huffman admitted her wrongdoing I have symathesized with her and hoped she would not get jail time.

[quote]What interesting is during the run of that show, Huffman was in the critically acclaimed Independent film, "TransAmerica" She was nominated for an academy award! That must've pissed off those bitches so much!!!!

Not only that, but in September 2005 Huffman first beat Cross and Hatcher (and Heaton and Kaczmarek) for the Emmy for the show's first season. Then the Oscar nomination came a few months later and she was most likely first runner-up for the win.

Sheryl Lee will always be Laura Palmer to me. In that horrible TP 3rd season they had 48 year old Sheryl reprise Laura as an 18 year old. Lots of interesting lighting and camera computer tricks with that one.

Huffman wrote a good letter. She seems honest and contrite.

The prosecutors are only asking for a month in jail.

Prison or no, she'll work again, because she handled this correctly. Eva's letter will likely help her.

She'll do 7 days and they'll cut her loose. Remember Paris Hilton? She did a few nights of her 30 day sentence.

Frankly, this kind of crime deserves community service, not hard time. The prosecutor is trying to set a precedence before going after bigger targets.

OT but Jamie Denton hasn’t aged the way I thought he would. His Mike was good part but nowhere near of Mr Lyle on The Pretender. Mike could have been much more interesting because Jamie can play bad very well.

R 42, I agree. Having her to serve 30 days to make a point is a waste of tapayers dollars. Have her do community service with a organization that works with underpriviledged children. That will mean a lot more.

I don't want to see this lady do time, but I really don't ever want to hear people complaining about special programs and set asides for poor and minority kids ever again. For every affirmative action kid, there are a bunch of rich kids skating through the admissions process.

Eva's , "I was just a little Mexican girl"

Bullshit. She acts like she crawled to America on her hands and knees. She was born in Texas to parents who had been born in America. She was 30 yrs old when she started on Desperate Housewives. And she didn't even grow up speaking Spanish. She didn't learn Spanish until 2009

[quote] Frankly, this kind of crime deserves community service, not hard time. The prosecutor is trying to set a precedence before going after bigger targets.

It was the fact that almost everyone of these people used their own scam charities to pay their bribes to that guy who also had his own scam charity. That's the real issue that no journalist is talking about

These people should all be exposed and prosecuted for those crimes. And the IRS should be after each and every one of them

When this story came out I googled some woman and found her charity on Charitynavigator.com. What a piece of work that cunt was. She inherited a ton of money and parked $1.8 million into a charity. She invested it and earned something like $186,000 in one year. I think she paid about $1,800 in income tax on that $186,000 profit. NICE. But the charity's tax returns were listed and you could see who her "charity" gave donations to, her kid's schools. She paid bribes to the schools to get her stupid kids into the school. Then she gave $15,000 to the Los Angeles Food Bank. I'll bet you $100,000 that the Los Angeles Food Bank gave her ignorant, useless kids great references for college. I bet those useless kids never stepped foot in the food bank. Then college comes around and she paid that guy a shitload of money from her charity to help her piece of shit kids cheat on the SAT test. And then more to guy to bribe the colleges/coaches. It took me less than 10 minutes to find that shit out. I'm sure there's a lot more dirt on them and a few more crimes they've committed

They commited all this crimes with their charities. Almost all of it was tax free. Meanwhile a woman I work with who can not afford to buy insurance from work or on Obamacare got fined by the IRS for not having insurance.

These rich criminals (and that's what every single one of these college cheating cunts are) should all be charged for financial crimes, lying on taxes, mail fraud, and probably 10 other charges and should go to prison for a few years and the government should seize all the money from their charities, which were nothing more than criminal enterprises, set up with the express purpose to commit crimes

The only reason I don’t want her to do time is as a fuck you to Aunt Becky when she does.

I Think Eva was on Y&R when picked for Desperate Housewives. She gave an interview saying Tyler Christopher was a lousy lover.

The most interesting thing I've learned from this thread is that Sheryl Lee was originally Mary Alice. How did I not know this? It would be weird that she'd have done two hit network TV shows where her character is dead in the first episode. I always liked her. Her performance in Fire Walk With Me is so insanely good even when the film itself isn't quite up to her level.

R24, That is a really beautiful and moving testament.

R41, Felicity Huffman's statement was very sad. Very sad. It hurt me to read that. I don't think she should spend a month in jail And I've spent a month in jail, myself, so I know what I'm talking about. I'm glad that Eva has moved on, and has had successes beyond Desperate Housewives.

Kathryn Joosten praised Teri before she died.

I think I love r47.

R47, Huffman was not one of those people. She was also genuinely remoreful.

Wasn't there a reason why Longoria was the only Desperate Housewife not nominated the first year?

I've heard it discussed. I think she refused to do publicity or a photo shoot for the Golden Globes so they kept her out.

R56 Sometimes it happens. For whatever reason TPTB favor certain performers. If I recall correctly , Courteney Cox was the only Friends actor not nominated for an Emmy.

Yes r57. But this time it was supposedly intentional. Longoria did something that angered them so they excluded her. I heard it on a Gold Derby podcast a bunch of times.

Pretty funny if you read it as the Frito Bandito.

[quote]R11 Why is there always either one mean girl or one crazy bitch who makes all the other girls lives miserable on female centric shows?

Because if you don’t fight for your screen time, your storylines, your wardrobe etc. you won’t get them. But one person (the most insecure) always takes it too far.

[quote]R41 Huffman wrote a good letter. She seems honest and contrite.

If you think she actually wrote that letter herself, well...

Dr. Kimberley Shaw back at her old tricks.

Huffman is the nice one? When the college scandal broke, I think some people here were saying she was known to be a bitch on set. I still want to like her though despite everything.

I worked as a background actor on Desperate Housewives in a funeral scene shot in a Spanish church in North Hollywood the last season.

Eva Longoria, Marcia Cross, Felicity Huffman and Vanessa Williams were all chatty and sat together between takes. Eva sitting sideways on Marcia's lap like a chair at one point, and even fell asleep on a pew for about twenty minutes.

Teri Hatcher stayed in the foyer of the church the entire time, and did not engage with a single cast member. Her eyes were constantly surveying the room at every person in the room. If she were not famous, I would have noticed her nervous energy, and I actually learned not to look at people or around so much because it's noticeable and unsettling.

R17 you must be fat.

She was definitely well cast as a trophy wife; who cares if she's short?

She was the best looking one on that dreadful-but successful-show.

R64, that's some good dish.

Ironically, Sela Ward was in line before Hatcher was for Susan. I wonder what was Teri thinking? She was the female lead on Lois and Clark and she'd be the lead on DH too?

Lois and Clark were (duh) two leads, a woman and a man. DH was an ensemble with many women. Marcia Cross was big on Melrose Place.

How much energy did it take for Teri to be mean to Eva?

What a bitch.

I read a bunch of interviews at the time it was announced DH was ending; Marcia said I called Felicity and Eva; Eva said I talked to Felicity and texted Marcia...etc.

I thought wow. they're not even trying to hide it.

here's a link to a EW cover featuring the end of the show; you can see Eva's Marcia's and Felicity's arms all interlinked.

I bet Teri was shot separately.

R66, that photos looks like Teri was added in after the fact.

Is Teri The one who lives in her van?

[quote] I wonder what was Teri thinking? She was the female lead on Lois and Clark and she'd be the lead on DH too?

Teri and Dean Cain had their own rivalry on Lois & Clark. I have a book about Superman and they touched on Lois & Clark and how Teri and Dean's trailers would be measured every day because Teri wanted to make sure that he wasn't closer to the set than she was.

[quote] She wrote it in a letter submitted to a judge that she probably didn’t expect to be broadcast publicly.

Give me a fucking break.

So Teri was the most desperate of all the housewives?

The outrage of the populace is funny. If the American educational system were meant to be fair and equal it would've been public like in most European and rich Asian countries. This system was meant to be elitist and for the rich to rig it. It won't change. Cry me a river.

The outrage of the populace is funny. If the American educational system were meant to be fair and equal it would've been public like in most European and rich Asian countries. This system was meant to be elitist and for the rich to rig it. It won't change. Cry me a river.

[Quote] Brenda Strong has a great voice and she has done a lot of narration. I wonder if that has worked against her performance career (in addition to being taller than many of her male costars), because she’s a good actress and gorgeous and should get more onscreen work.

She's playing a Luthor on Supergirl. And Teri made an appearance too but I don't think they shared any scenes together.

There is no doubt- it is Teri. No excuse for behavior that bad. None.

It wasn’t Marcia Cross. She and Eva were at a recent charity event.

Why was Nicolette so hated? Was it only by that Gay Republican Marc Cherry?

Teri did it.

Brenda Strong - Sue Ellen Mischke, the braless wonder!

R77 I'm guessing because of the slapping incident.

It was a mistake to kill Edie off

Teri will never work again after the reputation she has in Hollywood. She was spiteful bitch on both Lois and Clark and even more so on DH. Her exes have nothing good to say about her either.

Cherry didn't care much for Nicollette from the beginning. He never considered a core housewife. He began truly hating her after Felicity and Eva (his favorites and informants) told him of Nicollette's plan of banding together for a raise. He wanted to kill her off during the one season finale when Edie hung herself, but ABC nixed it. However later, after the slap, ABC allowed him to kill Edie off.

He wanted to kill off Susan too after Teri Hatcher got his bad side (but she was despised by all the other leads by the later seasons) but ABC wouldn't let him. Nicollette claimed during the slapping trial that he said he hoped Teri got hit by car and died.

He also wasn't much of a Marcia Cross fan. He resented her because he wanted Dana Delany (another favorite of his) to play Bree.

Needless to say, he could be very petty and vindictive.

Who slapped who? I forgot about that incident.

R83 Marc slapped Nicollette.

He wanted her to get hit by a car and die? Lol

I was surprised when Teri showed up with her daughter to Eva's wedding in France to Tony Parker and did the pap stroll. I bet Eva never thought in a million years she'd actually accept the invitation, lol.

R85 yes.

[quote]The suit alleges that Sheridan isn’t the only one who complained. When co-star Teri Hatcher complained to the network about Cherry’s behavior, he allegedly said, “I hope Teri Hatcher gets hit by a car and dies.”

Edie's death marked the moment the show jumped the shark. I don't think I lasted much past the end of that season. Some friends told me it picked back up towards the end, but I never bothered checking to see if they were right.

R88 It had it's moments, but it was never the same.

I think they underestimated how well Edie was liked by viewers. She was a lot of fun and great foil for the others.

I’m pretty sure it was the creator, Marc Cherry

Yep, Marc slapped one of his stars, repeatedly tried to kill off multiple cast members who got on his bad side, made it clear certain stars were not his first choice, and said he wishes one of them would get hit by car and die for real yet he's now teaming up with that climber Eva to "stand up to bullies". Hilarious.

And Eva is a climber. Remember when she was dating Penelope Cruz's younger brother? Penelope did NOT like her. She knew Eva was just using her brother to become "Spanish" and ride her and Javier's coat tails to a legit career. Penelope convinced her brother to dump her and he did. So Eva hooked up with and married multiple French men (and took their names) because she hates her own background so much. She wants to be "European".

Isn't she married to a Mexican?

Frankly, I don't understand how some people can continue to watch a show when they know that there's a lot of discord behind the scenes. It ruins the effect for me. I was 13 when Designing Women ended and though I didn't watch it then, I did hear a lot about the backstage fights/quarrels. It was inescapable if you watched entertainment news (e.g., ET) or stood in line at the grocery store (e.g., People). I don't know how people continued to watch after that. In fact, I think their two highest seasons were #5 (Delta & Jean's last) and #6 (Julia Duffy & Jan Hooks) when things were really heated up!

R88 your friends lied. The show died a slow, sad death courtesy of lame writing.

I could never get over Vanessa Williams's hairline which was almost at the top of her head.

Isn't Marc Cherry a Trump supporter? Self-hating idiot.

[quote]that photos looks like Teri was added in after the fact.

There were a LOT of "Teri double" shots in the last season where she clearly was reading the lines alone, and then they'd cut to the back of her double's head while the other women listened.

R97 I don't remember that at all. I do remember one season where, for maybe half the year, they sidelined Susan and had her working as a maid or internet porn star or whatever in some apartment complex with... who was it? Brenda Vaccaro? Lainie Kazan?

Go to about 6:00 in this. It's the wrap of Teri Hatcher's last scene.

None of the other women are there. Maybe they weren't working that day, but ...

Marc says "She was the Susan of my dreams". From everything he says and everything he does he obviously doesn't think Teri was a cunt for 8 years. And the crew aren't acting like it either with all their cheers etc.

I think the bully was actually someone else.

Marc Cherry looks like a hobo not a successful TV producer.

And really R100, it was the last day, people get nostalgic and nice.

I suppose the cast stayed for money in a toxic environment

R102 that's most shows

It is interesting to note that the show dropped out of the top 10 after Season 5, the one where they killed Edie off. By the last Season, it dropped to #37 for that Seasons primetime shows.

Season 4 was the last decent mystery.

The Orson mystery in season 3 was the best mystery outside season 1 until they had to rush its climax due to Maria's maternity leave.

Let's rate the 8 season mysteries!

Good: 1,3, 4.

Crap: Everything else.

Season 6 was the worst, followed by season 7 and 8.

Ugh, Marc Cherry. Another fugly hissing queen exploiting women for fun and profit. Gross.

I find it weird that Teri would have been the bully when people are saying she was standoffish and didn't interact with anyone. I could see where that would be off-putting, but it doesn't describe a bully.

Why is Teri like this? Surely the other girls werent such weaklings that they couldn't have stuck up for themselves and crushed her. They seem like way more tough cookies. But the rep of her on superman and pierce brosnan hated her also. Geez what kind of a monster is she?! I'll like to see her real nature.

Who will play Teri in the TV movie of her life, Unhatched: Bully Bitch Exstrordinaire?

R112 nice title 😆

I used to work on the set from seasons 1-3 as a PA. From what I gathered, Teri is a very introverted, private person...she has trust issues and had the other women slowly tried to ease in, she would have probably let her guard down. Oftentimes extroverted people take it the wrong way when another person isn’t like them. I’ve experienced this with coworkers judging me because I was “quiet” or some perceived trait that they thought was off putting. That makes an introverted person even more defensive and more likely to ignore you. Even on the behind the scenes feature on season 4 (couples commentary) Eva refuses to even comment when Teri was on screen. This really went on starting from the vanity fair shoot up until they wrapped production in 2012. Teri couldn’t trust the women after that shoot, they blew everything out of proportion. Teri showed up early for makeup and they took it as her trying to get a lead over them.

I remember at the time it was sold as the big Teri Hatcher return

Exactly, R114. I'm very introverted as well and, like you and Teri, it takes me a while to feel safe around people and let my guard down. People who meet me for the first time usually think I'm aloof. I'm not. I'm just wary due to being shy and being hurt so many times before.

I don't believe Teri was the bully at all.

If anyone is the bully it's Eva and Marc who both made sure that their letters supporting Felicity where half about what a cunt someone (implying Teri but being too cowardly to come right out and say it) was as if that has anything to do with Felicity's crimes at all. And made sure it "leaked" to the press. Eva has a new movie out, Marc has a new show out. And we know they're pals because they've worked on multiple projects together since Desperate Housewives.

Teri almost lost her house to foreclosure when she got Desperate Housewives. That saved her. She would have been grateful for the job. And she knew she wasn't the first choice for role. Calista Flockhart was. Why would she cause trouble and jeopardize that? You'd often see her in the tabloids going to garage sales with her daughter. She only went to industry events when she absolutely had to like upfronts or award shows. She preferred a relatively normal life. The other ladies took that as her being a snob or whatever and acted accordingly.

Extroverts can be the biggest bullies when they encounter an introvert.

Just imagine if this is what Mike Delfino had laid eyes on this when she locked herself out naked. Teri doesn't look very introverted to me here...

Oh now you're trying to slut shame her, R117. That's cute.

Robert De Niro is a notorious introvert but he did a scene in a movie where he got jerked off during a threeway with Gerard Depardieu. That's slightly more extreme than simply flashing one's tits, no?

R108 season 6 was soooo dumb but at least it gave us...

Susan was really annoying, second only to the horrible Dana Delaney when she was on it. Bree was my favorite.

Here's a few snaps a friend took of Miss Hoity Van De Kamp. They were taken over the hedge from my lovely back garden, I can only assume she was on one of her quite scandalous benders.

And she always told me she trimmed her bushes religiously...

Who was the confused and elderly actress that Cherry mentioned that Huffman was compassionate with?

R122 Lily Tomlin?

Thanks for the inside info. Katherine Joosten had said Teri was the nicest and she seems like a tough no nonsense lady wouldn't lie. Plus she was dying.

I think Teri has a lot of issues from the sex abuse she suffered. Longoria and huffman seemed like the big personalities and I would've been intimidated by them so i really cannot imagine them being bullied by Teri. Could I believe Teri being cold or dismissive at times? Absolutely but bully is strong. Maybe I'm biased because I liked her as Susan and I liked how into desperate housewives she was. She really cared.

I doubt it was Lily otherwise how would she ever have made it through doing Grace & Frankie?

R125 Lily and Jane have very little actual screen time on Grace & Frankie. I'm not the only person who's noticed that. Hence all the screen time devoted to the boring kids and exes.

Why isn’t Christine Estabrook a bigger star?

Polly Bergen could have been the one. She played Felicity's mom. Carol Burnett played her step mom.

Dixie Carter was on the show too.

I suspect Teri might be bipolar. It wasn't only on the Desperate Housewives set where it's been said she's lashed out. From the former producer of The Jay Leno Show:

[quote]Another difficult — or, as Berg puts it, “complicated” — guest was Teri Hatcher.

[quote]“I called her Teri One and Teri Two, though not to her face. Teri One was charming, smart, witty and flirtatious,” Berg writes. “Terri Two was moody. She would call me late the night before her scheduled appearance, scream at me for not having better ideas, and then hang up. The next day, she would come to show as Teri One, acting as if nothing had ever happened.”

Yikes!

Sounds like a drunk dial, R129.

Marc Cherry sounds like a sociopath.

R128, Carol Burnett played Bree’s stepmom

I have a feeling it was Polly Bergen. She seemed a bit off in her later episodes and never did anything else after that.

It has to have been Marc Cherry. He's an asshole - I read several quotes from him and he's a nasty, fat, bitter Republican queen.

I believe he didn't want Eva as a character - Marc's old school whites-only Orange County Republican world wouldn't want that. Eva was added for 'diversity' - which is a bit of stretch. One Mexican-American character.

I never cared much for Eva personally - I don't think she's that beautiful or a very good actress. She lucked out.

Cherry can't even get a show on any of the big networks anymore. Had 3 or 4 pilots that were passed on by everybody, Devious Maids had to settle for being on Lifetime and his latest series is on CBS All Access. He recently said he will only do shows for streaming networks now, yeah because you can't get one done anywhere else!

Is Eva even telling the truth? Exaggerating? I've always found her a terrible actress who got lucky with DH. She was HORRIBLE on Y&R. When you make an actress like Lauralee Bell look like Meryl Streep, you really suck. She was okay on DH because she had some comedic timing. But she hasn't had a notable role since. She doesn't have the range.

And she's such a fucking opportunist. The bitch would show up to the opening of a Piggly Wiggly if she was invted. She knows how to hustle, I'll give her that. Felicity seems like she could be a cold cunt too. Teri may have her faults but I also don't see her as a bully.

I wonder why Kathryn joosten aligned with Teri?

The poster above said it was because she was dying.

According to Joosten, all the stars other than Teri were a sort of clique. They didn't really socialize with the minor actors or crew. But apparently Teri did. She went to a party that Katheryn threw, or something, while the rest ignored it. And I think she gave some money to a crew-related thing.

Can you tell it's been awhile since I saw the interview? Anyway, the upshot was that Katheryn considered Teri the kindest and most accessible with people on the show who weren't the core stars.

Felicity Huffman recently said she felt like the ugliest one on the show. Um, bless you heart hun. That's because you WERE the ugliest.

14 days in prison.

R142 Good. Still a slap on the wrist. I doubt she'll even serve a whole week though and get an early release.

What she did was nothing compared to what Jussie tried to pull off.

I love the Russian trolls still going on about Jussie while pushing the felicity/college admissions "scandal" - this is all old news at this point. Let's talk about the real criminals in this country at the White House.

Teri is very much a sweetheart. She’s just keeps people at arms length due to trust issues. The other women took it as her being standoffish when that’s not the case

I'd love to have a LADIES WHO PUNCH book but for DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES.

There was obviously drama right from the beginning. We've never gotten the full Vanity Fair story, but it's clear the ladies were already pissed that Hatcher was being given preferential treatment. My impression was always that Marcia Cross had the biggest problem with this, and I think if you watch the show, Susan and Bree are the two women (of the main four) that share the fewest scenes.

Then S2 was infamously beset with production problems. Scripts that weren't delivered on time, stories that were thrown out, and (I'm sure) lots of bitching from the women about this... Things seem to have calmed down in S3 and S4 when Cherry hired Bill Daily, but there were still surprises (Cross' pregnancy and then the writers' strike) that completely changed the story plans... And then of course things heated up again in S5 with the Nicollette Sheridan "assault" and then the "creative decision" to kill her off.

After Sheridan left, things seem to have gotten bad with Hatcher. I went back and skimmed the series, and there's a difference in how many scenes Susan shares with the other women over the course of the run. Somewhere in the *middle* of S6, it seems like that number of scenes she shares with the women is increased dramatically; she's either in her own solo set pieces or main group scenes where the coverage is very basic (for Hatcher): a master, a well-used used close-up, and MAYBE a brief two-shot.

By S7, it's really bad. You can count the number of group scenes on two hands -- mostly at the beginning and end of the season or when the main mystery story demands it. Otherwise, I think she had two scenes with Longoria, a few (big ones) with new cast member Vanessa Williams, and the only one of the mains that she meaningfully participated at all with in episodic story, and in scenes where the coverage showed them obviously together, was Felicity Huffman.

That's why I tend to believe what was suggested in Longoria and Cherry's letters -- that Huffman was the only one, by the end, who would even acknowledge Hatcher's existence off-camera. There are more group scenes in S8 (and even some interesting combos), but gosh, the coverage is even more basic, and the energy between the women is frosty as hell. And Cherry was clearly punishing her storywise.

I guess the biggest mystery remains what exactly caused Hatcher and the other women to stop even pretending to be cordial around S6/S7, when they otherwise were ~okay~ before that... I read somewhere that contract negotiations might have had something to do with it.... If Hatcher was "bullying" Longoria, what does that even mean? And if Huffman did indeed stand up to Hatcher, is *that* what precipitated the cold shoulder...? And then where was Cross in all this? I swear that she and Hatcher worked together the least (from the beginning) and had the coldest energy.

This drama sounds more interesting than the last five seasons combined.

*decreased dramatically (not increased)

Season one was SO good. It reminded me of Twin Peaks. The underbelly of a seemingly quaint neighbourhood/town. Obviously they are very different shows but they hooked me in right away.

And like Twin Peaks, DH fell apart (for me) when the initial mystery was solved and then season two turned into a mess. Even the amazing Alfre Woodard couldn't save it.

The drama offscreen was too distracting. Like the Julianna/Archie drama on The Good Wife, the DH drama is also still unclear and a mystery.

I hope someone will talk.

Marc Cherry on Alfre Woodard, "I can't believe I'm working with an African-American actress".

Marc Cherry was not racist.

Teri Hatcher looks better in motion, and is ironically not very photogenic.

She has uneven features and a hardness to her face.

I agree, after perfect S1 it got bad very fast.

LOL at these people proclaiming that Hatcher was misunderstood or some bullshit. Her cuntary is legendary. Every set. Don't even try it.

Here's a shot from a secret camera those Scavo boys set up!

For me, I agree with the poster above who said that Marcia seemed like a really aloof bitch in nearly every article I ever read regarding this show. My gut was Joosten despised her and Sheridan the most.

My guess is that Terri has never gotten along well with women due to her past (or kept them at a distance, therefore looking like a bitch), and Katherine was a supporting actress and an older lady. Totally different ballgame. Terri seems highly sensitive and definitely suffers from some sort of mental illness/paranoia. And that will make someone look like a bully very easily. She probably was a crew/supporting actor type person, where the leads probably only stuck with themselves and executives (total clique- I think Katherine nailed that part)

But for my book, Marcia always seemed like a real bitch, and very stealth on that show in how she operated.

I must say though, that I am glad that she had come through her cancer, has spoken about it (even saying "anal" in public) cannot be fun. And she actually seems like a humbled and kinder woman. I wish her well- and I am sure that she has been through a hell of alot. And her husband was ill too-

That set sounded like most offices- TOXIC.

So that

Teri was hottest in season 1, when she gets stood up on a date with Mike. She had a low cut dress on that showed off her golden globes! Mmmm

"teri seems highly sensitive."

She's bitch on wheels if that is what you mean.

Marcia seems fine and very professional to me. with the exception of Joosten and Hatcher, everyone else got along with her fine.

When it burst on the scene as a breakout hit, I remember Teri went on Oprah and demonstrated Stripper Pole aerobics. none of her co-stars appeared. She didn't talk about anyone else, either. As if she was the star of the show. I also seem to remember the guy who played Mike (Teri's character's boyfriend) didn't seem to like Teri either.

She's a major cunt. She also caused trouble on the set of Lois and Clark with her anorexia distracting from the show. somehow she made up with Dean Cain though since they are both doing the autograph circuit now that they can't find work. She actually even said they wished someone would revive L&C as a series - fat chance - and I do mean fat, Dean.

[quote]She actually even said they wished someone would revive L&C as a series - fat chance - and I do mean fat, Dean. s I think she meant that they reboot it with young actors in the leads but her and Dean getting sizable supporting roles. I don't think she was implying that she and Dean play the parts now.

[quote]She actually even said they wished someone would revive L&C as a series - fat chance - and I do mean fat, Dean.

I think she meant that they reboot it with young actors in the leads but her and Dean getting sizable supporting roles. I don't think she was implying that she and Dean play the parts now.

That’s because extroverts tend to get along with other extroverts. They cannot control or predict a quiet, introverted person and that makes them mad. I’ve had so many coworkers try and undermine me, talk crap behind my back etc. and haven’t had one fucking conversation with me...I’m “quiet” but you never came up to me and tried to speak, just made assumptions. Other people didn’t judge me, they actually tried to get to know me. You just didn’t like that I don’t act like you (very adolescent) and used other shit as a guise to target me. I’m sure that’s how Teri felt

Wrong - they want to play the same characters. Teri has warm feelings about the show (apparently forgetting how much she hated it during seasons 2 and 3).

She had a horrid haircut as Lois Lane

If Teri was such a nightmare to work with why didn't they just electrocute her?

[quote]I love the Russian trolls still going on about Jussie while pushing the felicity/college admissions "scandal" - this is all old news at this point. Let's talk about the real criminals in this country at the White House.

So start your own thread about your preferred topic, you piece of shit. You know, instead of smugly bashing others for talking about something else. It's not like there aren't about 1,000 other Trump threads you could post in.

[quote]After Sheridan left, things seem to have gotten bad with Hatcher. I went back and skimmed the series, and there's a difference in how many scenes Susan shares with the other women over the course of the run.

Actually, many viewers figured out pretty quickly that, after the first couple of seasons, each of the ladies got their own respective storylines and were rarely seen together for any decent amount of time. It got so obvious that the writers were forced to add group scenes between them in order to try to lessen the talk about it. Hence the occasional "coffee get together".

Flicka Huff will be standing up to the top dog butch bully now she's had the experience of standing up to Teri!

Longoria's TV hubby was apparently no fan of Huffman...

Or working again.

Wow Carlos looks younger and hotter! He was married to Eva's character BTW, he did often work with Huffman.

Go, Ricardo! Serve that T honey!

OH DAYUM

Even Hatcher kept her mouth shut about this. What did Flicka do to him that inspired such enmity?

He looks better now he's lost weight but he was a fucking lousy actor.

Question: Did Longoria's letter say it was an actress that bullied her? Or are we all assuming it was an actress?

Could the bully have been... Hunky Ricardo? With whom she shared the majority of her scenes most seasons?

R173 It was supposed a "big star". I don't think anyone has ever confused Ricardo Antonio Chavira of being a big star. The men on that show all knew that this was the women's show and were just grateful for the regular paychecks.

Good for him for speaking out. I guess he doesn't care about being left out of a potential reboot or reunion.

When James Denton was asked about the rumored DH reboot last year, he replied with "are you kidding?!" and burst out laughing. It was very telling. He half heartedly tried to dismiss the rumors of all the fighting before admitting it's very unlikely and saying there were "too many different personalities."

To be fair Eva Longoria is annoying as all fuck. I'd bully her too.

[quote]and saying there were "too many different personalities."

Which proves that there wasn't just one person who was the problem (Teri as Eva and Marc implied) but rather multiple nasty cunts.

Teri got on great with the crew (kind of like Julia Roberts does which has also made some co-stars think she's "aloof") but I noticed all the others indulging in bullying behavior over the years such as when they revealed that the woman all together (except for Teri) after the final episode and bought luggage for the crew which was just them being spiteful to make such a thing public even if it was true.

R165, that picture is from the series finale, by which time Hatcher was obviously not talking with the other women.

You're right that the number of scenes between the core four was never as great as in that first season (and viewers noticed), but that was largely a function of the well-integrated mystery -- which was never replicated.

However, the rate of scenes with Hatcher and the other women further decreased CONSIDERABLY somewhere around late S6/early S7. It jibes with the Cherry/Longoria letters -- something happened around that time, and it's reflected on screen.

I'd still love to get the full story, because Teri clearly was an outcast with the main wives (and Cherry). But... the rest of the cast/crew may feel differently...?

I believe Cherry and co. are still playing up this “feud” up for clicks and views. It’s fake and nonexistent because Teri was always seen posing with the other women...hell, on the last day of filming, Teri and Eva went to a theme park together and rode rides

Ricardo Chivaro looks fucking hot, I want him! They made him never shave that terrible beard for eight years.

We all know Teri Snatchers was the worst.

R161 good luck to Dean. They won't even let him back on Supergirl.

Wow, Ricardo's tweet is actually pretty shocking. I wonder what Huffman did to him, or maybe it was just a general stuck-up attitude she had? Has Doug Savant ever commented on Huffman since the scandal broke?

Seriously, I can't keep track of all the drama on that show. What a fucking toxic mess that show was.

[Quote] Has Doug Savant ever commented on Huffman since the scandal broke?

I don't think so.

What if Ricardo was the one who bullied Eva, and Felicity stepped in...that would explain his current attitude.

[Quote] What if Ricardo was the one who bullied Eva, and Felicity stepped in...that would explain his current attitude.

Looks like Ricardo and Eva got along in the DH bloopers, although he didn't seem to enjoy their kissing scenes.

Everyone knows that Teri is a toxic bitch. Seriously you think it was Ricardo?

Kyle Machalgan (sorry for spelling) was so hot during the era of season 3 and 4. His ass used to sit up real high in his trousers. He’s one of those guys that become attractive once you get used to always looking at them

I don't think it was Ricardo. He had zero-to-little leverage at the beginning of the show.

It sort of cheapens the word bullying. That happens to outcast kids in school not pampered actresses whose trailer was smaller than a costars.

Wow at that tweet. How come a tell all book has never been written?

Trump bullies people all the time. Has nothing to do with grade level or $. In fact Trump uses his “wealth” to bully people

R167 White privilege? More like star privilege. Why do these SJWs think everything is always the white (wo)man's fault? And why is he so cryptic?

R188 No. He is a pasty wimp. Nothing attractive about him AT ALL.

MacLachlan had some bad face work before he joined DH that feminized his look and made him look odd. Luckily for him, it later settled some or he had corrective work done and didn't look as bad.

Even on a thread about Desperate Housewives, R192 has to bring Trump into it.

The TDS is real, folks.

Fine, I think it was this one!

The letter probably didn't sway the judge in any way. Just publicity for Cherry and Longoria.