Darren Criss is Ryan Murphy’s Scotty Bowers in Netflix’s “Hollywood”

They look nothing alike.

Ugh,her again ?!?

Can't stand him.

What exactly does an executive producer do?

Produces executives

Is Scotty gay ? Didn’t Ctiss say he wouldn’t play gay again ?

Why does the non-gay dude from Glee get all the juicy gay roles?

Smelling cookies face I think.

Are Ryan Murphy productions cursed? He has cast some good actors but so few of them ever do anything other than Ryan Murphy productions. Does he put them on exclusive Old Hollywood-type contracts?

Miss Criss is starting to get wrinkles around her eyes. She claims to be only 32 years old.

He did say no more gay roles so will he be fucking Patti Lupone in this. He could play her boy toy lol. Its supposed to be about the sex industry in the 40s which I didnt know existed.

Scotty was a chink?

It doesn’t say who he is playing.

Criss is half Filipino but could easily pass for playing a white guy if needed

Obviously they can't use Scotty because he would sue their asses off. So they have to do a thinly veiled version of Scotty's story. Much like they did with Carole King and Grace of My Heart.

OP is making shit up. No one knows Criss’s part. Could be anything.

This one dimensional trollop made a whole sanctimonious statement about not playing gay roles anymore and now he's back at it again. Either the straights aren't interested in hiring him or he really loves Murphy's prune juice.

[quote]Criss is half Filipino but could easily pass for playing a white guy if needed

Not really. He needs to get that nose shaved down to look less ethnic.

[quote] Criss is half Filipino but could easily pass for playing a white guy if needed

Not really.

Chink? 1950 called — it wants its putdown back.

R17 his role might not be a gay man.

I wonder if Ryan will try to convince Darren to go full frontal since Netflix is less restrictive. It is partailly about the sex industry. Though most male actors are hesitant to do it.

Does anyone doubt that Darren will be playing Sal Mineo?

R23 that dude was a child in the 40s

[quote]that dude was a child in the 40s

You don't think there was a child sex ring in the 1940s?

R25 but Darren cant play a child which that post was alluding to.

At least he'll probably get naked again.

In the article dude said its "young and optimistic" so I doubt it gets real seedy and truthful about the scandals of Hollywood. Its also been described as a love letter to old Hollywood. I hope it actually portrays interesting concepts about that era.

You can usually expect Ryan Murphy to have a two things in his shows: campiness and male nudity.

Why does everyone believe Scotty? What proof does he have? Any corroboration? His and all the Darwin Porter books are so sensational...some stories downright slanderous. Oh, how convenient, the dead can’t defend themselves.

Will he show that sweet ass again?

R31 no ass will be shown. Sorry.

I doubt every actor in this will be portraying a real life person. Some could be portraying people in the movie industry that arent big Hollywood stars.

I’m surprised Deadline didn’t censor this comment:

“He paid the Murphy Tax. Good for him for getting this return investment.”

He’s so fat.

Do some people really still think there was a casting couch situation between Criss and Murphy?

[Quote] "young and optimistic"

Yes some people didn't read the article. The word used to describe this project were "optimistic" and a "love letter" to old Hollywood.

I guess this is OP's fault for starting the thread with his made up Scotty Bowers thing.

[quote]The word used to describe this project were "optimistic" and a "love letter" to old Hollywood.

Right, because Rock Hudson's life of a closeted man in old Hollywood has such an optimistic ring to it.

You know shows exist that can have both light happy moments and sorrowful ones, right? Complex? I know.

Not Another Ryan Murphy Name Drop Hour.

I think Criss thought his awards for Versace would make him a big star, so he made the big statement (that sounded incredibly fake), but without Murphy (who curiously prioritize his straight actors over the gay ones) he has no career

R39, I'm sure that's the first thing that goes through the mind when we read an executive producer describe their show as "young and optimistic".

Show ass or shut up Darren

[quote] Murphy who curiously prioritize his straight actors over the gay ones

Curiously? That's like SOP for aging well heeled gay producers.

R41 I know so awful that hes found a successful working relationship with a powerful producer in the business. So many actors work mostly with one director or producer. Also hes only been in the business for 10 years, most of which was spent on one show.

I'd bet money his character is straight. The vitriol he would receive would be enormous if he walked back on his statement of no longer playing gay roles.

R44: Curiously because unlike others Murphy seems to take pride on his gay character and his gay themes and all that jazz

R46: I agree. But Darren made a big mistake when he said what he said

Scotty wasn't part Asian, in any form.

Ryan Fave Cody Fern, on the other hand, would have been a more sensible casting choice.

Will Timothee Chalamet be cast in this?

R49: Right now Chalamet is way above Murphy's productions

Jon Hamm as "client" Walter Pidgeon.

[quote]OP is making shit up. No one knows Criss’s part.

OP's title is clearly ironic and references the oft speculated-about arrangement between Murphy and Criss.

Thought it was obvious to any DLer.

Chalamet is so fucking overrated. Hes a decent actor, but some act like hes the seconding coming in terms of acting.

*second

R53: That's not the point. At this moment he is way above Murphy's league.

The momento Murphy's productions become quality work it would be different, but right now he is a hit or miss producer. His ideas are always good, the execution is a different matter

R55 the execution is usually a hot mess. Murphy should be a TV "birth father". Have the idea baby and give it away to someone who can actually raise it.

R55 in know I just find it ridiculous hes put on such a pedestal for okay to decent work.

[quote]But Darren made a big mistake when he said what he said

True. It reeked of opportunism badly disguised as wokeness.

That's...exactly what Murphy is r55.

Even though he is credited for every aspect of the show, his shows are largely run by other people on a day to day basis. Murphy just oversees it.

He didn't even write a single episode of Versace.

I didn't see "OJ" but thought "Versace" was very well done.

I should credit for every aspect of the show HERE* .

Posters talk as if he does everything

Murphy didn't write OJ either. He directed some episodes and produced aka got it to screen.

Murphy produces everything but only writes or directs a small number of episodes of his shows.

The more day to day control he has, the more of a mess the show is.

Darren Criss said he never really worked with Murphy on "Glee", that by the time was a regular cast member Murphy wasn't even around much.

Hes a great idea man and producer and I think hes a good director but an average writer.

R65: I highly doubt that. Darren got the royal star treatment from the very beginning when he was only Kurt's boyfriend on that show. Given how Murphy really saved his career over the years it's pretty obvious they have more relationship than that. He didn't do the same with other actors of that show

Ironically to what some of you are saying I disagree. Glee and Horror Story declined in quality after Murphy took his attention elsewhere. I'm looking forward to this Hollywood show cause when his attention is on something new and shiny its good. That's why his first couple seasons of his shows are good.

[quote]Darren Criss said he never really worked with Murphy on "Glee"

This was specifically about Murphy directing on Glee.

[quote]I'm looking forward to this Hollywood show cause when his attention is on something new and shiny its good.

Is it another limited series?

R70 yes I think it's going to just be one season.

Darren Criss probably though his Emmy win meant he would have offers coming in.

Instead his career is still where it was before, having to rely on Murphy to give him work.

Well, relying on Murphy isn't such a bad gig.

These days he's churning out shows one after the other, and he can reliably get his favorites awards and make them executive producers.

R37 even though a Scotty Bowers link has not been announced, it was revealed a few days ago that the series would be set in the 40s and be about Hollywood’s relationship with the sex industry. See link.

When “Hollywood” was first announced by Murphy a few months with absolutely the vaguest description, many people on DL suggested that it would be about Scotty Bowers because the documentary had just come out and Ryan Murphy is entirely predictable.

ROFL “He can’t play Scotty Bowers, he doesn’t look like him!” Anyone who says this deserves a face slapping of the highest order. Like the general public knows or cares what Scotty Bowers looked like.

Scotty Bowers was a short gay man with a big head. So is Criss. Good enough.

R73: No, it's not a bad gig, but if you are going to stuck with Murphy saying you won't play gay roles is even a worse idea

Will Darren be wearing his 💅 in this show?

ROFL here is the thread from the original announcement of “Hollywood”

R9 said “Will Darren Criss worm his way into this?”

R15 mentioned Scotty Bowers

I was R5!

Criss's nail polish schtick is such a poser move to look "edgy" or pretend he's a rocker.

Maybe he just thinks it makes him look pretty.

Why do you guys hate him?

R72, Darren did a film with Emmerich this year. So no, he doesn't only reply on Murphy

R81: He is a phony and there's something about him that screams fake

[quote]Darren did a film with Emmerich this year.

Hmm, I don't see any pattern here, not at all.

Darren is a nice guy and talented but he will say and do anything to get ahead and people can pick up on that phoniness. Playing two charismatic, social-climbing gay hookers in a row tells you all you need to know about him.

R85 two?

Andrew Cunanan and Scotty Bowers

We dont know hes playing Bowers though. Just people assuming.

R85, as would anyone else.

I just think he's hard working, driven and ambitious.

Did Murphy buy the rights to Scotty's book? If so, wonder what he paid.

Has he done anything of note that's not been helmed by an aging gay man?

Call me when he shows penis.

[quote]Call me when he shows penis.

You'll be underwhelmed. You know what they say about Asian cocks.

R93 excuse me. He has a half Asian cock.

Criss is in the upcoming Michael Bay film Midway, which he filmed after he won the emmy. Then ghere's the multitude of music projects he's done in the past year. The guy is hardly desperate for work. People keep trying to make it seem like he's been struggling without Murphy because he's just not that talented. The guy has the luxury of choice at this point.

That said, I'm so glad Finn Wittrock refused to get sucked into the Ryan Murphy vortex. He's way too talented to be wasting his time with campy schlock. He's doing Ratched with Paulson (which I'm predicting will fail) but has the Judy Garland biopic coming up, too. Cody Fern could take a lesson from him. That guy is going to be stuck playing second fiddle to Billie Lourd and Emma Roberts if he doesn't start booking other projects. I had such high hoped for him after Versace.

I believe OP got it wrong. I think Darren Criss will be playing Betty Bowers.

[quote]the multitude of music projects he's done in the past year

Que?

Oooooh, girls! Darren will be pumping that gas and fillin' 'em up! Wipin' the windshield, too!!!! '

Midway is directed by Roland Emmerich, the eldergay, not Michael Bay.

R95: Absolutely nothing he did outside Murphy's project was relevant, that's the reason people think he needs Murphy that much

R95: And Cody Fern would be absolutely nothing without Murphy so maybe it's not time to be that picky.

Most actors in Murphy's projects have a lot to be thankful to him (Witrock included)

I like Darren. Always have.

Cross looks more white than anything. If you didn't already know he was part Asian you'd never guess.

He has the advantage of looking totally white while claiming he is a poc.

I don't know american politics, but it's really having some non white ancestor what determines that you are a person of color?

It's not an "ancestor", Darren Criss's mom is Flilipino. He is a hapa, though he does look fairly white. His brothers Asian ancestry is very obvious though.

Perfect tv series idea. Another triumph for Murphy that will appeal to his gay following

R105: I was not talking about him, but in general.

Anyway, he looks completely white, so it doesn't matter if her mother is philipino or not, he is not going to face the troubles that asian actors have

I love that ass. Him and Kit Harington..perfect bubbles.

They are both short, that tends to help in the butt department.

Besides nothing to brag about being in a Bay movie ? And does anyone remember Emmerich’s Stonewall film ?

Emmerich is gay? Why does it seem he works with a lot of gay directors/producers??

I am really getting creeped out by the DL obsession with "whiteness." WHAT THE FUCK????

R112, it's always been like that...

What obsession? It just never occurred to most people that he's half-Asian until they heard it during the publicity around Versace. At most, you'd think he has some South European genes.

Still think he will play a straight person. Super interested in what narrative this show will tell.

Darren will be playing the important part of Lana Turner.

He probably isnt playing anyone famous. I cant think of anyone he looks like, though that doesnt always matter.

Darren Criss will play the gumshoe that is trying to close down Patti LuPone's brothel.

His hair looks jewishy

118 there will be a brothel? Is that a guess/prediction?

R118 oops forgot to put this

[quote]118 there will be a brothel? Is that a guess/prediction?

That's my guess. In 1940s Hollywood, there's always a brothel.

Thrilled to see this gorgeous mug in close-up!

Wondering who LuPone is playing. No offense but surely not a movie star.

Darren Criss IS Katharine Hepburn!

Darren Criss posted on his Instagram that filming started, at least for him. He was recently seen with a thin 40s style Clark Gable mustache. Not sure if he pulls it off.

Damn the pic I tried to put up wouldn't go. But it's on his Instagram. If hes playing a real person then its someone with that type of mustache.

This one, R126/R127?

[Quote] who curiously prioritize his straight actors over the gay ones

Denis O'Hare aside, Murphy's gay actors aren't up to much in the talent department.

So basically, OP is a liar. He was a liar on the other thread about this, and he’s a sensationalistic liar on this one.

Fuck you, OP.

R130 not really a liar. They were guessing since there is no actual info about this show other than general info that it's about Hollywood and the sex industry. Therefore that brought up a guy that was involved in both.

He might be playing an original character and guessing a potential real person is pointless.

R128 = idiot or liar. This photo is from 2013

This is him yesterday

[quote]Murphy who curiously prioritize his straight actors over the gay ones

Tell that to Chord Overstreet who is now playing gigs in flyover bars and showing off his well pedicured feet on Instagram.

R133 2013 is when he started that grooming stuff. That photo is from Thursday at a launch party for a new product. I guess he shaved.

His stylist Ashley Weston posted a video on her Instagram of him looking like that as well from Thursday.

Maybe it was a test look that didnt work or he can grow a mustache really quickly.

There is something so annoying about his face. Do you have to keep shoving it down our throats, Murphy? You did right with giving Ben Platt his own show but can I get another young, actually out, and talented actor on the screen instead of Criss - again?

[quote] Wondering who LuPone is playing. No offense but surely not a movie star.

Louella Parsons

R140 so would they also need Hedda Hopper in the show. She would younger than when she was in Feud.

How much did you have to put out to get in?

R129, why are you knocking the gay actors he works with when the straight ones include no-talents like Lea Michele and Emma Roberts?

[Quote] why are you knocking the gay actors he works with when the straight ones include no-talents like Lea Michele and Emma Roberts?

Doe he prioritize Lea Michele and Emma Roberts?

I don't like the Murphy shows all that much anymore. Nip/Tuck was great (in the beginning) and Season 2 of AHS was awesome, but beyond that I'm over it. Glee was a good show, but it came out during my oppressive closeted college years so it brings up negative feelings. Darren Criss is one of those people they are trying to make happen, or has he happen already, and I won't go along for the ride.

[quote]not really a liar. They were guessing since there is no actual info about this show other than general info

Yeah, really a liar. Not necessarily in the other thread, but OP isn't "guessing" in this one. His thread title is "Darren Criss is Ryan Murphy's Scott Bowers" and his whole original post is other declarative statements. That's lying. OP is a fucking liar.

And you're an obsessed loony. Most of this thread is you talking to yourself.

Politician actor David Corenswet also joins cast

[quote], David Corenswet has been cast as a lead and will serve as an executive producer on another Murphy Netflix series, drama Hollywood

Are all the actors in this show getting EP credit / money too?

[quote] Denis O'Hare aside, Murphy's gay actors aren't up to much in the talent department.

Well, Billy Porter just won an Emmy for his performance in Murphy's show Pose.

IF this is about Scotty Bowers, Finn would be more ideal, that is, if you had to pick someone out of Murphy's stable of actors.

If Darren is playing Scotty Bowers, are they going to recreate the scene from the documentary where Scotty is giving a guy a blowjob?

It was the most interesting 15 seconds of the documentary.

They showed a 90 year old giving a blowjob?

[quote]They showed a 90 year old giving a blowjob?

No. It was a home movie filmed in the 1960s. So he was probably 40-45.

so Darren's doing Ryan again?

[quote]so Darren's doing Ryan again?

Who isn't?

Another casting

A rising Broadway star will serve as an executive producer on a TV show?

So all three of the lead actors Criss, Corenswet and Pope will be exec producers. How much of this will they actually produce? I feel like actors get these credits for more money and prestige but it's just a title.

^ Are they all fucking Murphy?

More cast

Murphy casting celeb children again: This time, is Judd Apatow and Leslie Mann's daughter Maude

Jake Picking will be playing a very young Rock Hudson, apparently

[quote]So all three of the lead actors Criss, Corenswet and Pope will be exec producers. How much of this will they actually produce? I feel like actors get these credits for more money and prestige but it's just a title.

Yes I noticed that and it's extremely bizarre. Criss maybe I can understand, but it's very unusual for Corenswet and Pope to be given this kind of credit.

My only explanation as to why this has happened is that it was negotiated with them in exchange for doing explicit nudity and same-sex love scenes.

So either Parsons or Mantello will be playing Henry Willson.

The Henry Willson story is pretty juicy

I wanna see him stir a drink with his dick.

Actors getting exec producer titles in name only and having little say in the actual production is a very common practice in Hollywood. It's done when the actor wants more money than the union cap allows for a production of its size. They can now get a raise because on paper they have to be paid for 2 jobs, but they're expected to know their place and not actually try to be producers. You see this all the time in long-running TV shows.

Yes but the key is LONG RUNNING tv shows. It is EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY unusual for two actors who are more or less, starlets, to get this kind of credit for a brand new program.

r9, I hate to be a hater but with the exception of Sarah Paulson I think many of Murphy's protegees just aren't that talented. They only shine when working with Ryan because he can bring something out of them, and has a very unique style but they aren't that versatile as actors. Just my 2 cents.

Ummm Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Denis O'Hare aren't talented?

r169, Are you fkin retared. Murphy didn't discover them nor make them what they are today in Hollywood. I clearly wasn't talking about veteran actors that joined Ryan's productions.

Sarah Paulson was already an established actor before Ryan Murphy. You are clearly an asshat.

No, that poster has a point. Murphy brings lots of actors into the fold that the industry is otherwise cool towards. The guy from American Beauty was not up to his role. Neither was Gaga. Emma Roberts was ok in Coven but underperformed in Freakshow - still Murphy has kept her in his stable. Mark Consuelos...

Murphy casts out of a few pools, one of which is celebrity children/relatives. Emma Roberts, Billie Lourd, Taissa Farmiga, Lily Rabe, Patrick Schwarzeneggar, Grace Gummer, Chas Bono, Maude Apatow, and many more I'm sure.

Another pool is "gay mafia" and I use the term extremely loosely since the gay mafia isn't what it once was... basically any white gay actor with some degree of success he casts: this I would include Neil Patrick Harris, Jim Parsons, Andrew Rannells, Matt Bomer, Zachary Quinto, Billy Eichner, David Burtka, Cheynne Jackson, Mark Consuelos

[quote]They only shine when working with Ryan because he can bring something out of them

Ryan bringing something out of me is why I jumped over to the Maisel show.

Emma Robert's just sucks. She should be grateful every day for Murphy.

Same thing with Darren Criss

"Emma Robert's just sucks. " - R175, a complete dumb cunt

What about Darren Cris's, you dumb shit? What about, YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB, YOU INSERT AN APOSTROPHE INTO A PERSON'S NAME, so any opinion you ever have will always be completely superfluous because you are a dumb shit illiterate fucktwat.

How 'bout that?

r176

Impotent. Flaccid.

Why does the non-gay dude from Glee get all the juicy gay roles?

BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING ACTOR!

R177, spaz Aspie incel homebound cunt.

R176, it was an autocorrect mistake. Stop being a stupid cunt.

Are you part of her fanclub or something? Get a life.

R178: He is more a fucking phony.

I suppose he'll play a straight actor this time because he made a big deal about not playing more gay roles

Criss is definitely playing a straight dude. He would get attacked it not. Plus there are already gay characters in the black guy, Rock Hudson and Willson.

"it was an autocorrect mistake. " - R175/R180

It's Autocorrect, not Autofuckup. You're a lying asshole who can't type.

R182: He will be bashed and he will deserve it, but of course he won't play a gay guy in a good while, he is not that stupid . Even if it was incredibly stupid saying what he said. I still think the poor guy though his career woudl take off after winning awards for Versace, but he still needs Murphy for relevant roles (so it was not a good idea at all).

Specially because is sounded incredibly fake, trying to pass as a generous motivation what it was trying to avoid being typecasted (too late for that, the truth is his important roles are all gay)

He will play gay in this series, and he will come out be saying he is "sexually fluid" or "pansexual"

I would bet money on it if I could

R183, you're a liar who doesn't know what autocorrect is or how it works. You must be pretty dumb and why are you so upset about this? Did your mom take your video games away?

R186, you're a denialist dumb fuck illiterate shitbag who clearly doesn't know how to type a person's name, or use apostrophes, and you rail against someone who pointed out your idiocy. Very Trumpian of you, Mary.

I wish I could take your money over the DL because you are going to lose that bet r185.

R187, you're the Trumpster if you attack people for no reason. You started attacking me only because of an autocorrect error. I did nothing to you. Lighten up.

Autocorrect does not INSERT apostrophes into names, and you should know better.

YOUR mistake. YOU are obsessed with denying it and lashing out at your betters. Fucking get over it, illiterate douche.

R190, yes, it does, at least with the name "Roberts"

Why do you even care, anyway? The fact that you use the term "your betters" says a lot about you. You seem really mean AND really dumb.

Haha! Oh, R191, you sad little fool. You're so incensed by your betters showing your ineptitude. You simply refuse to accept your clearly displayed idiocy. That minor typing error is a key to the Vault of your Stupidity.

And you continue to give us tours of that vault as you screech and deny and rail and lash out like a little rat in a corner. So sad you are. So so sad.

R192, if you act like this much of a sociopath to anonymous people on the internet, I'd hate to see how you treat people in your everyday life.

And still too dumb to understand how autocorrect works. Pity.

Jesus can you take this dumb argument elsewhere. Make a thread about it?

This is peak DL in the worst way. Two people derailing a thread with their own obsessive arguinging over nothing.

We have too many unstable personalities type that come here.

Ha! And STILL, R193, you're blaming a complete stranger for pointing out YOUR stupid grade-school typing mistake!

How often in your empty life have you blamed others for your mistakes? It's clearly a pattern here today, one made by the real sociopath; YOU.

r171, You are a dumb ass bitch. Paulson got famous through Ryan's productions while the talents mentioned in r169's post were seasoned actors if not household names.

Apostrophe abuse!

There seems to be some PR talk about this being an “optimistic” series about Old Hollywood which I believe is absolutely a smokescreen, since they hired a black actor as a lead and there was NOTHING optimistic for people of color in the studio system of the 40s. And the rise of Rock Hudson vis a vis Henry Wilson’s casting couch is also hardly the stuff of old Hollywood dreams. So I’m convinced that other reports about this being about the secret sex industry of old Hollywood are actually the correct ones.

It also truck me that all three leads are male, so I wonder if this will be Murphy’s all-male answer to “Valley of the Dolls” - (the book, unlike the sixties-set movie, began in the 40s.)

If Darren plays a gay-for-pay male whore who gets his cute butt banged repeatedly, I'll watch.

R200 Hopefully Evan Peters returns and they can get their cute butts banged repeatedly next to each other.

Darren Criss made woke noise about not taking any more gay roles out of the goodness of his heart.

Not that it would prevent him from baring ass in a straight role.

A male version of Valley of the Dolls would be AWESOME

I forgot what Valley of the Dolls was about but after reading it maybe Murphy is partially taking inspiration from it. 3 lead actors in a show about trying to make it in Hollywood? Might be the case.

It's kind of nice to see new actors in this instead of recycling ALL of the same people across his productions.

Although you know Cody Fern will pop us as either Tab Hunter or Guy Madison...

R205 God, I hope not. Cody is way too ugly to play Tab or Guy. They both had a masculine, statuesque beauty that he severely lacks.

I think originally Fern and Wittrock were meant to be the stars of this show r205.

If you recall Ryan Murphy had an instagram post with Criss, Fern and Wittrock saying he was cooking up something special for the three of them.

But I don't know what happened that only Criss ended up signing on and the rest of the cast was filled out with new guys.

Fern got AHS and Wittrock will be in Ratched. Maybe the post wasnt about them doing a show together but their own projects where they would be lead.

It's possible r208, but I imagine when Murphy first envisioned "Hollywood" it was with the three of them. But yes you can't control the timing and scheduling conflicts.

I mean the cast is a lot of youngish guys, it would make sense.

Not realistic that Murphy doesn't know his other shows may create scheduling conflicts for Fern and Wittrock.

"If you recall Ryan Murphy had an instagram post with Criss, Fern and Wittrock saying he was cooking up something special for the three of them."

He was probably talking about having a fourgy with them

R211 Ha, both Murphy and Fern wouldn’t have a shot in hell with Wittrock.

[quote]Not realistic that Murphy doesn't know his other shows may create scheduling conflicts for Fern and Wittrock.

Hey, I didn't know "scheduling conflicts" was an option.

R205, you knew exactly what I was referring to...but I do wonder now if Murphy just had plans to cast them in any of his productions, and not necessarily another one together like they were in ACS Versace as R208 mentioned.

Finn at least has had success outside Murphy projects (Judy, Mouthful of Air, etc.) so good for him.

Can't say the same about 'other' actors involved with Murphy...and only Murphy.

Sorry, I meant that for R207

Photo from the set. I guess they are truly the 3 leads.

R216 Good. Leave ugly and untalented Fern in the dust.

I'll take Cody Fern over Darren Criss any day.

Criss has that plump ass and thighs.

Bangable ass.

More casting.

R221 I'm excited to see the show seemingly delve into the unfair racial stereotyping actors of color went through. Krusiec is playing an actress who lost an asian role to a white woman. I'm assuming this show is going to show the injustices of Old Hollywood along with the glamorous good stuff.

Rob Reiner was on MSNBC yesterday, sans beard but with mustache, and shorter hair. He was asked about his look, and said he’s playing a studio mogul, but wouldn’t comment further.

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And it didnt work. It's just Criss and Corenswet dressed as gas station attendants at a station with 2 ladies. Is this show actually going to go into Bowers territory? He initially set hook ups up at a gas station.

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EAT MY ASS R16

R228 hold up. This doesnt confirm that. His characters' name is Raymond not Scotty.

Well obviously they're not going to use real names, you fucking dumbass.

R230 dudes dead right? Does have family who would start legal crap? See, I responded without calling a rude fucking name. Crazy, right?

Shit, the gas station just blew my mind.

This might actually be inspired by Scotty Bowers!

R232 I wonder if McDermott is filling that role though. He was seen filming a different scene at that gas station about a month or 2 ago.

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R234 if they are using a storyline inspired by him then it wouldnt be a damn biopic. They could make the character look however they want.

I saw new filming shots of Criss, Corenswet and Pope again at that gas station on twitter and Instagram from I think December. But I suck trying to post things here. Everytime I do it says there is an error.

As long as he shows that sweet ass again, I'll tune in.

Here you helpless dotard

The character appears to be carrying a big wad of money, presumably as payment for being fucked in his whore ass.

Bowers was married to a woman, which was ridiculous, but she's still alive.

Corenswet looks gorgeous, you know Miss Ryan is going to get him naked in every episode

All three guys are hot so Murphy better deliver on the nudity in this thing.

R239 how do you know he is the whore and not the pimp?

Wasn’t Scotty both a whore and pimp?

R243 Because from the context clues of the set and costume design this looks to be before Scotty starting pimping, he was still a prostitute and not a pimp around that point.

Does anyone know where in LA the gas station set is?

So sick of Murphy and Criss alike.

Media saturation point!

R247 pretty simple, dont like? Then dont watch. I'll never understand it. If I dont care for something or someone I dont pay attention to it. I dont bitch about something I can ignore.

Will premiere May 1

Think the key art looks familiar?

The perfect actor to play Spencer Tracy would be Jonathan Banks.

Isn't Criss meant to have a pretty small dick? This casting fails on every count.

It is smart for Darren Criss to move into producing. He was lucky to win an Emmy award for acting, since he has always played gay roles and that's all he is likely to be offered. His acting career doesn't have a lot of moves left to make.

R252 how would you know? Also what does that have to do with anything? Why would his dick size matter?

"I don't like him, so he has a small penis" = classic Datalounge elderbottom speak.

R5 that’s a good one, that’s funny

[quote]It is smart for Darren Criss to move into producing

Murphy has given several actors in his upcoming limited series a producer credit - Criss and Corenswet in Hollywood, Ewan McGregor in Halston, could be more that I'm missing. Not sure how much it's genuine producing or just padding their resumes and bank accounts.

So HOLLYWOOD will be a sjw what-if revisionist reimagining

[quote]Ryan Murphy offered me an opportunity to time-travel to the gilded age of Hollywood to rewrite some wrongs

[quote]we realized television gave us an opportunity to imagine what equality could have looked like then, presenting a new vision for the future by centering those pushed to the margins. As we wrote, we asked: What would Hollywood be today if, six decades ago, the powers that be looked like us, and the people onscreen were given an opportunity to be seen in their totality? That question became our compass, allowing us to tell a revisionist history of what we wished Hollywood could be

R258 as long as hot dudes drop trou I'll watch it.

That's always a given, R259.

I dont mind the revisionist aspect as long as there is still conflict to the story which I assume there will be. People can say its SJW bullshit but this sounds like it'll have an overall uplifting tone and I'm here for it. I watch enough dystopian or darker reality leaning shows.

So they are going to imagine a Busby Berkeley-type chorus line made up of trans women of color?

The problem with this concept is by including POC in 30s or 40s era studio products they are still endorsing the prejudices of the era; for example the black actress in the still from the link above is wearing caucasian-style 40s era hair.

R262 but they are already changing many things by having a black woman lead a movie, a women head a studio and a black writer in the 40s. There will be a give and take. Do you want them to go full tilt and have the character wear her hair naturally?

So why did he accept this role when he said he’d no longer play LGB characters so as not to take work away from “authentic” LGB people? Did I misunderstand him?

R264 we have no info on his character's sexuality. Also it might just be for the poster but he has his arm around a woman in the new promo for the show.

[quote]but they are already changing many things by having a black woman lead a movie, a women head a studio and a black writer in the 40s

They're not changing things. Sounds like they're outright making up a fantasy "alternative reality".

R266 I'm actually more excited about it because of the revisionist aspect. If it were a true to what happened retelling it wouldnt be as intriguing. I know what minorities had to deal with in the biz and the outcome so I dont need a retelling of that.

FFS he's going to be playing the shit sandwich

[quote]David Corenswet stars as Jack, an aspiring actor who becomes a call boy in a prostitution ring run by a slimy gas station owner (Dylan McDermott).

[quote]Corenswet is seen in some of “Hollywood’s” most compromising–and naked–positions, including an unforgettable scene with Patti LuPone, who plays a former silent movie star now married to a studio boss. “The first half of the scene I get to sit there and listen to her deliver this amazing monologue and then she gets to tell me to undress,” he said. “It’s the most uncomfortable moment, getting undressed down to your tighty-whities in front of Patti LuPone!”

It sounds like a Frankenstein monster of ideas: Murphy wanted to make a show about Scotty Bowers but then wedded it to this SJW fantasy.

A lot of Murphy’s ideas don’t come to fruition (Katrina, Charles & Di) and I thought that the inevitable result of the Netflix deal is that half-baked ideas would get the greenlight. We’ll see if this fits the prediction.

So McDermott is playing a version of old man Bowers still at the station then. Criss is a hetero in this? Hope he gets naked despite the hetero sex that would follow.

Wait--where is it said he's playing Scott Bowers?!

Interesting that the article frames it that David Corenswet is the lead, not Criss.

And yes the "reimagining of what Hollywood could have been" is...an unusual surprise.

I really am not quite sure what to expect this thing. What type of vibe and theme it is trying to strike.

According to the page entry on wikipedia, this is the cast:

Main:

David Corenswet as Jack

Darren Criss as Raymond

Jeremy Pope as Archie Coleman

Laura Harrier as Camille

Samara Weaving as Claire

Dylan McDermott as Ernie

Holland Taylor as Ellen Kincaid

Patti LuPone as Avis

Jim Parsons as Henry Willson

Jake Picking as Rock Hudson

Joe Mantello as Dick

Maude Apatow as Henrietta

The only names of characters I recognize there are Rock Hudson and Henry Willson

Here's the wikipedia page:

R273 hes not but I said a version. Hes playing a gas station owner that is running a prostitution ring. Also I've read Pope, Criss and Corenswet are the 3 leads. Maybe Corenswet's role is slightly bigger. That writer didnt share much about Criss aside from his character is a director and dating the black girl. The others had some scenes described.

That's what happens when Criss says he won't go gay on screen anymore, gets his lead role replaced by an actor who will!

Is the guy(Jake Picking) playing Rock Hudson gay?

[quote]Corenswet is seen in some of “Hollywood’s” most compromising–and naked–positions, including an unforgettable scene with Patti LuPone, who plays a former silent movie star now married to a studio boss.

Oh, I'm disappointed! The original news was that Patti was playing a Hedda Hopper-eque gossip columnist.

Here is his Instagram but it is pretty sparse r279

Here is his Instagram but it is pretty sparse r279

My main concern with this concept is that it becomes overly full of wish fulfillment but assume the lead characters will still struggle. I'm much more interested in this than the reality. I also wonder if Corenswet is playing a gay call boy or if his customers are women. Is LuPone one of his costumers? That article didnt specify.

Criss should e hung out by the thumbs until he passes out from the pain. I can’t stand him.

I think it's fair to assume his customers will be both men and and women r283.

Will we see Rock riding cock by the score?