Meet the gay men who hate women

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[quote] I have a male body, I'm bisexual, and I'm also genderqueer. But I've also experienced misogyny from both straight and gay men on the basis of my apparent femininity. At a party attended mostly by gay men who worked in political consultancy, I was asked,"What do you do, darling? Something fun like a fashion degree?" At the time, I was wearing heels, red lipstick, and a sheer crop top. "No", I replied, curtly. "I work as a commercial lawyer in the City and I'm also a freelance writer." His reply: "Really?"

I can feel the oppression

S/he decided to live with Opus Dei before s/he took on gay male humanity.

OP, how would you like it if we turned your playgrounds into hookup spots?

I agree that it should be addressed. I didn't love the article but it does make some really good points.

The article is all about trans women.

The article is 2 years old, why post it now?

Vice is trash, homophobic trash.

A lot of gay men are misogynistic, and society is becoming aware of it, which may partly explain growing backlash against gay males

r10 Um, no, that doesn't explain it at all. Gay males have been considered the lowest of the low since time immemorial. Some gays being misogynistic doesn't even begin to enter the calculation when it comes to homophobia. This is only an issue among the hyper-woke crowd in large US cities, and the world is slightly bigger than that, if you can believe it.

I don’t know, is it even possible to be gay without being misogynistic?

Females make it so darn hard.

Somehow decent gay dudes manage it r12.

A lot of effeminate guys are misogynistic. It’s obvious they are envious of women and wish they could attract hot masculine men like women do.

Well vaginas ARE disgusting but that doesn't mean I hate women.

Sheesh.

That’s what very annoying effeminate males say.⤴️

Madge —"Misogyny? You're soaking in it!"

I'm gay for a fucking reason, to not deal with these yammering bitches. I do not have to put up with these fishes, fuck off op. And we don't want their annoyance in our gay bars. Pussy is nasty.

That article is a mess.

Yes, that article is tiresome.

They're fine as long as they're getting the coffee and making a sandwich.

I don't think gay men ever think of women. However, the barrier to displeasure of women's habits is removed- because the sexual component is missing. We just go there.

Straight men forgive them for everything because of vagina.

R22, speak for yourself and your ilk, dude.

r22 I think this is actually pretty correct. Straight men view women as potential sexual compatibles and other straight men as potential rivals. They're aware of each class since both tie in to their sexual environment. The same is true in reverse for straight women.

Gay men don't do this since we are concerned only with other males. While there might be some poorly defined "rivalry" between gay men and straight women, the vast majority of the time gay men aren't SERIOUSLY chasing after the same dating pool as straight women, and further, the much more relevant rival to a gay man is other gay men.

So, like r22 said, straight women don't really enter into the equation for gay men at all. They exist as fellow humans, but they are completely removed from the sexual/dating paradigm. This is actually a HUGE loss for straight women, as a good amount of their social capital comes directly from being attractive to straight men (NOTE: Not ALL, not even MOST, but if you think being being attractive to straight men is not both a disadvantage and an ADVANTAGE of straight women, then you're dumb). Obviously, with gay men, they don't have that social capital, and it often results in exclamations of misogyny (and homophobia, but that's for another article that Vice will NEVER write).

[QUOTE] the vast majority of the time gay men aren't SERIOUSLY chasing after the same dating pool as straight women

Are you joking?

R25 gay men are searching for sex with straight men (glory holes, frat bros helping another brother out after a six pack) but no gay man is seriously of dating a confirmed straight man.

That didn’t make sense [R24] . What, exactly is a huge loss to women?

This is a much better article about soaking in misogyny.

Vice is had a raging hard-on for all this trans, genderqueer bullshit for a long time now. I've never read anything from them that wasn't deeply homophobic.

The authors reveal their homophobia when they speak of ‘gay male sexism’ or ‘gay male misogyny’, implying a causal link between homosexuality and hatred of women, an idea that belongs in the 1950s. By all means, let’s anyone to task for his sexism, but these writers never imply that male heterosexuality causes misogyny.

Oof, this article quotes both Milo Fucknuts and Rose HarveyWeinstein! Does VICE not employ editors?

R30, if a certain subset of gay men would stop doing things that reinforce the popular view that gay men are misogynistic, maybe the view wouldn’t be so prevalent. Just look at the way gay dudes talk about females on here. Not exactly an enlightened bunch.

[R32], Fuck off Charlene, if you seriously think that gay men are more misogynistic than straight men you’re either a woman who hates gay men or you’re struggling with a fuck ton of internalized homophobia.

Straight men hate women...even more so that gay men.

Straight guys only tolerate women so they can get access the women's pussies.

Many gay men are misogynistic because many men are misogynistic. This probably will never change, because it hasn't in thousands of years.

Yet again the “it was trans women who led Stonewall” lie is repeated. Do they think that makes it true?

Vice needs to be burned to the ground.

The removal of sexual tension between gay men and straight women is a leveler; where both can operate as people/friends without women feeling like prey or men feeling obligation.

I wouldn't consider it a loss of social capital. An exception might be if there is static and tension in which case both sides probably feel more free to "go for the jugular: (especially if there was any kind of friendship preceeding it).

[quote] [R25] gay men are searching for sex with straight men (glory holes, frat bros helping another brother out after a six pack) but no gay man is seriously of dating a confirmed straight man.

Dataloungers are much more obsessed with straight men than even hetero women. Women want relationships with them but they also resent them. Straight white males are the end all be all here. They are the God that Dataloungers worship.

“I'm gay for a fucking reason, to not deal with these yammering bitches. I do not have to put up with these fishes, fuck off op. And we don't want their annoyance in our gay bars. Pussy is nasty.”

I rest my case... -OP

Nailed it, R33.

Not all Dataloungers, R39.

R39 is a resentful gay of color.

Who’s probably fat.

I’m an old millennial gay guy in a competitive career. As the only gay guy in my department early on, I definitely suffered homophobia from straight men, while the women flirted with the supervisors to get advantages. MANY advantages. There were a few lesbians who were hated and left the field or moved from job to job. Luckily I managed to survive years in that toxic environment, and got to where I wanted to be.

Straight men and women will never support gays, and because of that I give every advantage to gays and lesbians younger than I am. I’ve been called a misogynist at work because I don’t bow down to straight women like they are used to. I’m not a misogynist, I’m just a gay supporter who is not pussywhipped. The straight guys have yet to call me out on playing favorites to the gays

🙄🙄 beyond tired of these articles attacking gay men. Find another target. Go away. Enough.

And how is this different from the radical lesbian separatists?

[quote]This is only an issue among the hyper-woke crowd in large US cities,

Sexist gays have been an issue discussed in the LGBT community and in feminist circles since the 1960s.

But because DL is 99% straights and incurious gays who have no interest in their own history, some moron like you can come along and say something completely made up, add the word "woke" to it, and be hailed as a goddamned hero.

You'd think people here would at least remember the movie MILK but even that's too much to ask nowadays.

[quote] I don't think gay men ever think of women.

Exactly.

Exactly, R45. Straight men kill women every day of the year, yet somehow *we're* the problem? Yeah right.

Trannies like the author here never go after straight men like this, and we all know why: they're the ones the trannies are always running after to seek validation.

[quote]I'm gay for a fucking reason, to not deal with these yammering bitches. I do not have to put up with these fishes, fuck off op.

Being gay is a choice now, I guess?

Gay men choose to be gay because it means they never have any female co-workers or relatives to deal with.

Yeah, this is going about as well as any other thread on DL does theae days.

The problem is gay WHITE males.

[quote]I don't think gay men ever think of women.

Meanwhile, DL has ten thousand Meghan Markle threads or threads bashing how fat women are.

Most of the problems of the world could be linked to straight males need to prove their masculinity in the pursuit of women’s glorified pussies.

[quote] Among white gay men, the idolizing of black female artists such as Beyonce, combined with slang picked up from RuPaul's Drag Race, can produce excruciating stereotypes of black women—all dressed up as appreciation.

You see this all the time on DL

And if you’re a gay man not interested in pursuing a woman’s glorified vagina, R53, well then you’re misogynistic.

"I was asked, "What do you do, darling? Something fun like a fashion degree?""

LOL at these trolls. The best and closest friends a young gayling could have are girls. As I found later in life a lot of young gays' support system were young women and sometimes fraus like teachers, aunts, neighbors, etc.

Women are probably the strongest allies the LGBTQ Community has.

All this trolling tries to accomplish is to destroy this tight bond. Good luck with that, right wing incels.

[quote]The problem is gay WHITE males.

Uh-huh.

I even now hear straight dudes comment on how Misogynistic many gay men are. They often comment about how gay guys use the c-word, get in cat fights with women, and generally act envious of pretty women. A straight male friend of mine often asks why are gay men criticizing how females look.

I even now hear straight dudes comment on how Misogynistic many gay men are. They often comment about how gay guys use the c-word, get in cat fights with women, and generally act envious of pretty women. A straight male friend of mine often asks why are gay men criticizing how females look.

So what do you say to him in response?

[quote]As the only gay guy in my department early on, I definitely suffered homophobia from straight men, while the women flirted with the supervisors to get advantages. MANY advantages. There were a few lesbians who were hated and left the field or moved from job to job. Luckily I managed to survive years in that toxic environment, and got to where I wanted to be.

Women weren't homophobic to you at all, but you're mad at all women because you think they flirted their way to the top? Even though you apparently got to the top and they didn't?

[quote]I’ve been called a misogynist at work because I don’t bow down to straight women like they are used to. I’m not a misogynist, I’m just a gay supporter who is not pussywhipped.

O! Cruel misandry!

[quote]The straight guys have yet to call me out on playing favorites to the gays

The straight guys who were homophobes, correct? You're bragging about how you're on their good side now because you're a sexist like they are?

You sound like a fucking Auntie Tom. Fuck you.

Can we also be real for a minute: while I'm sure the author thought they looked glamorous in a "crop top" and heels, everyone else at the party was humming "dude looks like lady" to themselves and wondering when the drag show was going to start.

So not at all misogynist to be surprised that they were a lawyer, unless they heard these guys talking to other women (ones with female vaginas and all that) in the same way

I find that I just don't give a shit about women or their problems. It's just not there. Is that misogyny? If so -- I still don't care.

There's a pretty common school of thought (amongst those who think about these things, anyway) that misogyny is responsible for the increased hate effete and feminine gays get as compared to everyone else.

The idea that a man acting like a woman is worse than anything else is very likely steeped in sexism. I suspect a lot of homophobes are also sexists, because they have this ingrained idea that female, feminine or womanly is automatically weak and bad and inferior.

That gets internalized for a lot of women and gay men, and they push those same sociocultural values, unconsciously doing so to ally themselves with the mainstream hetero male society and separate themselves from the "weaker" groups.

It's weird that Datalounge is full of people who say "women are more sexist than men are" -- which is the phenomenon I'm talking about, where some women internalize sexism and become sexist themselves in the process -- yet for whatever reason you can't admit that gays are sexist, too.

R36 That lie gets repeated in order to further the notion that gay men were too timorous and limp-wristed to be involved in their own liberation. It is homophobia writ large.

R36 That lie gets repeated in order to further the notion that gay men were too timorous and limp-wristed to be involved in their own liberation. It is homophobia writ large.

The belief that if you repeat bullshit enough, it becomes true, is a defining trait of our era.

Nah, the trans at Stonewall thing comes from the well-documented fact that the later protests and marches after the first night of riots were largely organized and attended by the trans and drag queens.

Over the years, trans have complained that their activism in protests the following nights has been downplayed, plus their role in the first night has been diminished, which is true mainly because the trans and crossdressers and drag queens were dragged off by cops first thing. That has slowly morphed into the idea that trans were the primary instigators on the first night, which they likely weren't.

It's not homophobia, it's a lack of living witnesses plus a desire to make up for the media ignoring the trans presence in later protests and in the movement as a whole.

r2=moron

At least they don't have to worry about us raping them.

R69 is so full of shit but N.E.WAYS....

Gay men are no more misogynist than straight men (and even other women) are. I think the moniker stems from gay men feeling openly able to highlight the less savory stereoptypes of women (or frauen) that men have been brow-beaten into not saying anymore because it's "sexist." Gay men are also more cutting based on built-up defenses caused by growing up gay so they really know how to twist the knife, as it were.

Minorities do this in general: Asians racist toward other ethnic-group Asians, for example. Also people of all stripes do it often to other women in a way they think is acceptable (code: "WHITE women always..." same with now it's ok among these critics to mask gay-critical comments with "WHITE gay men always...")

Men will keep it among themselves because it's bro-code and do not want to invite the female wrath (historically: nagging). Gay men will call out entitled frauen when they act ridiculous because they have no skin in the game to defer to the "mother of their children" or the object of their sexual desire. Women feel powerless in this situation because they have no card to play, so they only wildcard they can use is "it's misogynist."

No, we mock your mommy blogs and manager haircuts and don't believe being a mom is truly the toughest job in the world. And we're ok saying that. Yes, we will say you use your vagina to get what you want. We'll tease you because for once you can't get free drinks because your sexuality is powerless in our space. Oops. And no, we aren't fans of hearing about your periods any more than I'm sure you'd like to hear about the horrors of IML fisting or that one guy with intense smegma. It's not body-shaming your womanhood, it's just called gross shit and we draw the line with HUMOR (vulgar humor, but humor nonetheless) rather than feigned offense with all indignant sincerity.

That isn't misogynist.

That is a total fantasy, R69. Complete fiction. The lack of living witnesses is the result of the AIDS crisis, removing as witnesses the gay men who lead the riots and allowing others to colonise the space left by their deaths. They are the only ones visible in contemporary photos and accounts. There wasn't a huge trans/drag queen presence that has been suppressed. The authorities would have loved to show evidence of 'freaks and deviants' (in their minds), if they had it. But all they had was gay guys in tee-shirts.

100% R68

It is exacerbated by the internet because people (and bad journalists) don't ever check on the source of the first couple of hits that come up on a Google search and that makes it easier for lies to get passed on as truth

R62,

Maybe my post wasn’t clear, so I’ll make it more concise. My gut feeling is that you’re just a homophobic asshole.

In my early career, straight men and women received advantages that we not available to gays and lesbians. We also suffered homophobia from straight men and women. Now that I am in a position to help the younger generation, I give strong preference to gays and lesbians. Because of this, entitled straight women have accused me of being misogynistic. It seems odd since I promote lesbians the same as gay guys. My theory is that straight women are used to working their charm in the workplace. The straight guys have never complained to my face, but they know I am definitely not their bro. .

[QUOTE] Somehow decent gay dudes manage it [R12].

Sure they do Boris!

[quote]A straight male friend of mine often asks why are gay men criticizing how females look.

Straight men criticize the way other men look, so what's their fucking excuse? And by the way, the first person to comment when a new female employee is brought into a workplace is /always/ a straight guy and it's generally either:

a) She's hot

or b) She's fat

or sometimes c) She looks like a lesbian which is what straight guys call ugly women

[quote]They often comment about how gay guys use the c-word

And? Women say CUNT as well. We still don't say shit that's half as bad as what comes out of a straight guy's mouth.

[quote]get in cat fights with women

It's a cat fight because it can't be a standard "fight" unless a man who isn't gay is involved, I guess. Also: where are these gay men and women getting into fights all the time? What about straight guys who get into "cat fights" with their girlfriend? They do that ALL the time and are VERY public about it. Whenever a fight is happening between a man and a woman it's usually because they are having relationship problems.

[quote]and generally act envious of pretty women.

That tired old statement. I don't want to have a pussy. I don't want to have tits. I don't want to have a fucking period. I don't want to get pregnant. I don't want to do or have any of these female things. There: not envious.

Gay men treat other gay men 100x worse than they ever treat any woman.

Your straight friend seems to have his magnifying glass fixed in place over anyone who isn't a straight/bi male or any female and doesn't have the ability to analyze straight men for what they do because he's used to thinking of straight men vs. gay men as "all men vs. the gays (who aren't men)".

[quote]gay men are searching for sex with straight men

Only the desperate sad sacks who are obsessed over who they couldn't fuck when they were in high school.

R76: And the "woke" thing calling people "Boris" is a homophobe. Of course.

[quote]The lack of living witnesses is the result of the AIDS crisis

Of course it is! Absolutely appalling that you're trying to claim I said otherwise. Disgusting ad hominem attack on your part.

[quote] They are the only ones visible in contemporary photos and accounts.

There are very few photos from the first night, and the photos were taken by a single photojournalist after the crossdressers and trans had been carted off by the police, as was described by multiple people who witnessed the event.

Still, you can see many people of color and trans and/or crossdressers in photos immediately after the first night of the riots. I'm linking to Getty Images which has a nice gallery. Clicking on the captions shows that these were after the first night, but they were still there for the later protests.

None of this is a lie. Your ahistoric nonsense coupled with disgusting implications about my character is all you have. That's fine. Your lies don't change the truth.

Keep telling yourself that Boris at R78. I see one individual with makeup on and long hair. That's it.

[quote]men have been brow-beaten into not saying anymore because it's "sexist."

[quote]Asians racist toward other ethnic-group Asians, for example.

[quote]Men will keep it among themselves because it's bro-code and do not want to invite the female wrath (historically: nagging).

[quote]Women feel powerless in this situation because they have no card to play, so they only wildcard they can use is "it's misogynist."

[quote]you use your vagina to get what you want.

Jesus christ, buddy. Get help.

Vice, they're all here. Oh what am I saying. The writer is on here.

[quote]Straight men criticize the way other men look, so what's their fucking excuse?

Straight guys are commenting on women's looks all the time, at least on IG and Twitter. I don't know who is claiming that straight men don't criticize how women look, but they absolutely do.

But but but, you don't have to look from someone of the opposite sex to be trans r79 !

Feelings are the only things that matter ! Well...uuuum, feelings and TWOCs !

r77 here with the truth.

I post actual photos from Stonewall during the era of the riots and I'm a Russian troll? Unbelievable.

Oh, wait, the guy who said I was a Russian troll is the one who started a thread saying Pete Buttigeig isn't really gay, that Chasten is a "reverse beard" because Pete wants to look "woke."

Absolute nutters we have on DL lately. Is there anywhere online normal people can have a discussion anymore?

Women don’t even like women. Just look at how they treat other women who don’t fit into their cliques, or more attractive, or less attractive, or are strict mothers, or more easy going mothers, or are career oriented, or stay-at-home moms, and on and on it goes.

No one called you a Russian Troll R86. Boris is now just an all purpose insult. Why shouldn't we salvage something fun from pointless 2 years of Russiagate?

Probably that is a crude generalisation. I have experienced both for and against the OP I have had a friend who is a girl, our tastes are similar and often we fell for the same guys..the gimmicks we do to get guys attention was all interesting....talking about such guys made our friendship very strong and enjoyable. I also enjoyed attention from st8 men because i always had a girl with me... It hurts when st8 dont see me as an option or even as an (better) alternative...if my crush likes a girl and not me for the sole reason ie lack of vagina i find it demotivating... A fair chance in required in romance and sex..many st8s think gays should sleep with gays...thats not compatible always

[quote]A fair chance in required in romance and sex..many st8s think gays should sleep with gays...thats not compatible always

People who think that a gay guy can just sleep with any gay guy and wouldn't prefer to sleep with another gay guy that they're attracted to are idiots.

Gay men who are "only attracted to non-gay men" are even worse and are probably part of the problem.

I'm sorry to our allied women lurkers who think the DL represents all or most gay men. It most certainly does not. The DL is mostly a sewing circle of clucking hens lamenting all the troubles caused by the blacks, the Jews, the Muslims, the immigrants, the millenials, women (genetic and trans), and whatever "other" they feel like bitching about on that particular day. It's tiring sometimes yet mildly amusing. Just roll with it and laugh at their hysterical drunk-posting cuntiness.

Yeah because it's not like lesbians don't hate gay men, right? Oh, wait...

And I'm sorry to all the women lurkers who incorrectly think that r91 is worth listening to--he is not. These virtue-signaling "woke" jokes like the author of this homophobic trash article and r91 himself are insufferable. I cannot wait for sanity to reemerge into this exhausting morass to save us from this sanctimonious nonsense.

The rightwing trolls have been trying the whole "radfem lesbians hate the gays" thing a LOT lately, to what end I don't know, other than just general trollishness.

[QUOTE] I'm sorry to our allied women lurkers who think the DL represents all or most gay men.

That's mighty woke of you.

...except they *do* hate the gays, and all men...

[quote]The DL is mostly a sewing circle of clucking hens

Apologizes to women and then compares gay men to women because that is an insult or lowers their worth as men right afterward. What a fucktard.

It's that lesbians as a whole are called man-haters and radfems, regardless of if they are or not. Plus, not all radfems hate men. The current crop of radfems are hardly radical at all, from what I can tell.

Wow -- this whole thread is a clusterfuck. It truly does make me wonder why there are so many real crazies on DL lately.

As R86 said, "Absolute nutters we have on DL lately. Is there anywhere online normal people can have a discussion anymore?"

My reply to that is, that's why you came to DL?? Hahahahahaha!

Gay men only notice extreme women. Women of accomplishment, talent, style, mystery, grace...

The rest are livestock.

Straight men are also very critical of women’s looks, even if they themselves look like bald headed ham hocks with legs.

There’s an awful lot of vaginas on this site today.

"Gay men are as misogynistic as straight men, if not more so"

Yeah, because gay men are really out there raping, murdering, assaulting women, preventing them from getting abortions and rolling back their rights?

"When I was younger a lot of gay men would touch me inappropriately and say, 'It doesn't count because I'm gay!'

That sounds like a crock of shit. And why would gay men want to touch this??

It *is* a total crock of shit. It's the other way around, women are always getting handsy with me.

Which Psycho Frau Cunts posted this shit? Probably homophobic incest Survivor whores who like “the gays” when they stay in their place.

[quote] You sound like a fucking Auntie Tom. Fuck you.

The proper insult is “Auntie Bottom.”

There’s always a parade of indignant “I want to see a MANAGER” vaginas on here.

How many straight/bi men lurk around gay clubs pretending to be gay just so that they can grope women (yes they really are that pathetic so much so we even created a term for these losers SPAG "straight posing as gay", as we used to call them, looks like nothing has changed except now we're getting the blame for what they've been doing.) And these same men would always use the "I've never been with a woman before" schtick to get these women into bed and unsurprisingly they'd always fall for it. Are these women really that gullible? Did it not occur to them that some men will lie about literally anything just to get laid?

R104? That's happened to me more than once. I was at a (mostly gay male) dinner party with my gf and while we were eating, the gay man next to me literally grabbed my pussy under the table and said, "Is your pussy all wet?" The other gay men laughed, - they thought it was funny.

We left immediately.

Never underestimate the obnoxiousness of men toward women -- and yes, that's ANY man to ANY woman.

Perhaps you guys should believe what women say once in awhile.

Quick, someone write a 10,000 letter article about how homophobic and/or patronizing many female "supporters" of gay men are ("I'm just hanging out with my gays!")!

10,000 word, not 10,000 letter

Funny, I recall having my crotch grabbed by a drunk blonde chick, in front of a guy who was obviously my boyfriend, who then said, "I bet you fuck like a bull," as though I would take this as a compliment from an average looking office frau on a bender.

Lucky she didn't get smacked.

But the lesbian above will be glad to know that I took her deliberate, premeditated behaviour at face value, and firmly BELIEVED HER that she was exactly the gross entitled blithering creeper frau she wanted everyone to see at that moment.

I don’t hang around nasty or misogynistic people. I don’t tolerate that crap

R112 10,000 kvetch would suffice, dear

R22 is correct

Most gay men have no boundaries. So improper.

[QUOTE] That sounds like a crock of shit. And why would gay men want to touch this??

Err, I don't know R104, maybe because that person has a rep as a power top who's great in bed?

[quote]if you think being being attractive to straight men is not both a disadvantage and an ADVANTAGE of straight women, then you're dumb). Obviously, with gay men, they don't have that social capital, and it often results in exclamations of misogyny (and homophobia, but that's for another article that Vice will NEVER write).

Hating on women is a coming together point for both straight and gay men, that where our social capital comes in.

Yes straight men want to fuck women but that doesn't mean they like women. In fact from what my nearly 60 years on this planet has taught me is that a significant number of men despise women despite the fact they want to fuck them. Look at human history and you will see that men have always felt a measure of violence toward and hatred for women, it's low hanging fruit. We like to think of ourselves as better than straight guys but in this respect too many of us are as primitive as they are. Women can be cunts, so can men but just because we want to fuck men shouldn't get them a pass for their shit behavior.

OP, please delete your account for posting ANYthing by the misogynistic midget Shon Faye. He is a nasty little hobbit of a man who spews plenty of homophobic bile himself whilst wallowing in a miasma of narcissism and cheap mascara.

Oh god, a bunch of women on this thread who really fucking hate men screaming how it’s sexist to hate women. Hypocrisy. Sorry can’t have it both ways.

But, but history... women were mistreated... I get a free pass and reparations!

R120 Which makes him different from all the misogynist midget nasty, narcissistic, cheap mascara “I DEMAND TO SEE A MANGER” fraus who endlessly post here?

Oh. The Penis. That changes everything.

[italic]Echt[/italic] frau posts appear to be a relatively rare phenomenon on here— there are parodies and pisstakes but the sort of poster R123 describes would be hounded off the DL in a hurry or simply blocked.

No one gives a shit about passé ‘Karen’ memes. Hit up Reddit for that.

R110, I'm sorry to ask, and this may well be a dumb question, but how is that even possible? I mean, I assume you were seated at the table? Then how can someone grab your vagina if you're in the sitting position?

R127,

Maybe, by lesbian, xe means a M-F trans womyn who has not yet has bottom surgery and has sex with womyn.

I guess R125 crosses her legs at the knee under the table when she eats...?

I had pants on. My legs were not squeezed tightly together. How hard is that to figure out??

R127 Vagina is an internal organ, there's nothing there to grab at. You would have to have your legs spread far apart and your pelvis thrusted for someone to literally grab at your vagina.

She said "pussy," R127. Jesus.

There's no difference between pussy and vagina R129.

Maybe she grabbed by her labia r130...some lezzies have huge labias...like baboon sized

Every woman on this thread:

Ew. How could anyone be a lesbian?

I’m not sure what “women” means. Is that a type of Native American soup?

[quote] [R39] is a resentful gay of color. Who’s probably fat.

None of that is true and even if it were it wouldn’t make my comment less true. Which is why you didn’t actually chalked my comment. Instead you lashed out with a silly personal attack.

So many ugly people on this thread. The really sad type of hopelessly ugly that cannot be "gussied up": ugly on the inside. R18 Takes the crown, followed by R21 as first runner-up, and R22 as second. To all the women haters here, you would not even exist without them. It must be dreadful to wake up everyday for you all.

Whatever, r136, r22 is the only intelligent post in this thread. Go smoke a Tampax.

R136 is one of the "decent gay dudes".

R137 Is that all you have to come back at me? Seriously? Yeah, no merci to the Tampax, I've got grass, hash, and Marlboro Red 100s. Don't even get me started on the habits of men, trying to paint R22 as the most intelligent fellow here.

And you’re a starfish? You’re going to tell us you’d exist without men? Get on with your bad self.

Cheers R16 / R13 / R23 / R32 / R42 / R52 / R57 / R59 / R70 // R80 R91 / & R138 if you weren't yet another catty one. So very glad you all exist, and had the guts to post on this thread.

R140 Infra dig...You're not really worthy of a response, however...(Get a clue bag, the thread's subject isn't overrun with people hating on men; learn to read before composing stupid comments.) Stating that men have some equally nasty, or unattractive habits as well, is just the truth, and as a man, (not a bloody starfish) I know very well whereof I speak in my rebuttal to R22, who makes a case that somehow "female habits" are responsible for the hate men are directing toward them. My "bad self" only exists in your mind. You did crawl out of a woman's vagina, don't ever forget it.

R142. You’re a nasty thing. I’ve simply state, which is true, that we’re not the product of parthogenesis, unlike starfish. So nobody needs your tiresome cliches and horror movie references. This only makes me think you hate women even worse than the men you whine about.

This is one of the dumbest arguments trending on DL right now.

R143 I'm not nasty, nor a thing. I'm a righteous feminist who finds you deplorable. I love women, and am ashamed so many gay men on this thread feel the way they do toward women. Yes, men, and gay men can be feminists. We speak the truth about what butthurt mysogynists many of you here are. The truth does indeed hurt. Pick up some Preperation H and some Tucks wipes tonight before beddy bye.

Give us time, we’ll impress you with our dumberness.

r119

1. If you're going to quote me, put my reply number in your comment so I have a chance of actually seeing that I'm being quoted.

2. Nothing in my comment said that straight men can't hate women, many obviously do. Some gay men may even hate/dislike women, but that's less likely. So your comment, while it may or may not be true, isn't strictly relevant to my comment.

3. The "white knight women defender"/frau poster in this thread who is W&W-ing her own posts is pitiable. Go home, you've had enough!

R143 is deluded!!

He comes on a gay site sees two or three posters being jerks and then uses that as an excuse to be homophobic.

GTFO loser!

Sorry I meant to say r142!

infra dig, infra dig