He graduates from Columbia in 2021.
He’s strikingly handsome, motivated and intelligent. Hope he kills it.
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He graduates from Columbia in 2021.
He’s strikingly handsome, motivated and intelligent. Hope he kills it.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | June 21, 2020 5:18 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 29, 2019 2:34 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 29, 2019 2:35 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 29, 2019 2:35 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 29, 2019 2:36 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 29, 2019 2:37 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 29, 2019 2:37 AM |
Hey Guys!!! Hey everyone on Datalounge!!! Dylan is back to posting here again!!! Hi Dylan, see you got Old Man/Club Promoter Michael Cohen’s dick out of your ass in the back room of Fishbowl long enough to make a thread about yourself!!! Yay!!!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 29, 2019 2:39 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 29, 2019 2:39 AM |
Weren't these threads banned?
Anyway, DL discovered Dylan back before everyone else did. He is old news now anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 29, 2019 2:39 AM |
R11 Blown Hole, some would say.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 29, 2019 2:40 AM |
Any gossip on him?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 29, 2019 2:40 AM |
Search and you can find a million old threads on him r13.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 29, 2019 2:42 AM |
R13 Massive attention whore, College dropout, likes booger sugar, likes to bottom bareback, into skinny twink Tops, doesn’t clean properly and might hook on the side for Daddies. You’re caught up now.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 29, 2019 2:45 AM |
A lot of people like cocaine
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 29, 2019 2:52 AM |
Yes, but do they take in intra-anally?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 29, 2019 2:58 AM |
*take it
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 29, 2019 2:59 AM |
Please...
This power bottom trash has had more cock than I have!!!
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 29, 2019 3:08 AM |
Telling DL about Dylan is like telling New Yorkers they have skyscrapers
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 29, 2019 3:14 AM |
He has a gorgeous face
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 29, 2019 3:21 AM |
He’s already looking older. And his looks are all about youth. At 27 he will be average - and still very short.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 29, 2019 4:17 AM |
No he actually has a good face.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 29, 2019 4:21 AM |
So Dylan returned to Columbia...and apparently he has dropped out again after one month!
by Anonymous | reply 25 | October 1, 2019 2:16 AM |
Wow! I guess Dylan really fell out of favor on DL.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | October 1, 2019 2:41 AM |
Fabulous. I’m sure not everyone fails because of it but I never thought it’s a good idea to “take a break” in college. A lot of life’s success is simply endurance. Honestly, in retrospect, I think it is probably an even more important trait than high intelligence.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | October 1, 2019 2:57 AM |
[quote]and apparently he has dropped out again after one month!
did he really?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | October 1, 2019 3:22 AM |
What has become of Mr. Geick? All his social media stopped in early September and then I thought I saw he had already left Columbia despite just returning in August. Is he being a good student and gone on radio silence?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | October 17, 2019 4:43 PM |
He popped up in my Tinder feed in the past month.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | October 17, 2019 5:16 PM |
Definitely not being a good student r29. He left Columbia.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | October 17, 2019 5:28 PM |
R31 What the story?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | October 17, 2019 6:15 PM |
Looking rough, ridden hard and put away wet, Dylan go in-depth at 1:03 about leaving Columbia this fall and becoming an Ivy League drop out. He’s back in Chicago planning Youtube exposes.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | October 17, 2019 6:39 PM |
[quote][R13] Massive attention whore, College dropout, likes booger sugar, likes to bottom bareback, into skinny twink Tops, doesn’t clean properly and might hook on the side for Daddies. You’re caught up now.
I'll bet you were a major fangay just a matter of months ago and now for some reason you're angry at him about it.
& what the fuck is booger sugar?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | October 17, 2019 7:56 PM |
The danger of too much too soon. Part of why I am glad I ended up not going to undergrad in NYC - way too many distractions. Even in grad school, it’s a dangerous place to be when you’re young and pretty and it seems life will give you everything without even trying,
by Anonymous | reply 35 | October 17, 2019 8:06 PM |
Wow... this is... well... this is an interesting development. Honestly, I thought Dylan would sort of defy us all and genuinely be this boy wonder... gain an respectable amount of fame through social media, get whisked away on these lavish gaycations, and ultimately return to Columbia and graduate proving the haters wrong, but if he seriously dropped out again and is Twitch streaming to survive well... damn... what a waste.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | October 17, 2019 8:28 PM |
It's incredibly hard to go back to a "boring" life of studying and doing homework once he has just been spent all this time living this easy breasy celebrity lifestyle. I'm not at all surprised his attempt to return flamed out.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | October 18, 2019 10:15 PM |
How does one pay for his cam shows? Does he finger himself?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | October 18, 2019 10:20 PM |
Christ, you cunts are tedious.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | October 18, 2019 10:22 PM |
Dylan's drinking from a US army water bottle in his latest Snap.
Perhaps a hint?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | October 22, 2019 12:26 AM |
R40 Naw, he’s just whoring, I mean looking, for a few good men.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | October 22, 2019 12:30 AM |
Completely unsurprising. High school was likely easy for him, but then he discovered that classes at an Ivy League college were a lot harder and required more work and attention. Plus, he was getting a large social media following, which fed his massive ego. So he jumped at the chance to take a year off to live the high life being flown around the world, yachting in exotic locations, and eating at expensive restaurants. And lots of sex.
Going back to boring classes that were tedious last year probably seemed even worse this year.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | October 22, 2019 12:51 AM |
He has decided to join the army...I think he is going to hate it.
If he had attended a military college he could have at least started off as an officer rather than a grunt. The reality of being a lowly military recruit expected to obey will kill him.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | October 28, 2019 1:29 AM |
R43, are we sure those aren’t pics from a military-themed porn shoot?
by Anonymous | reply 44 | October 28, 2019 1:32 AM |
She’s going to get so much dick.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | October 28, 2019 1:37 AM |
Christ, how damaged is he that he thinks this is the answer to his problems? If he thought university was restrictive and structured he’ll be in for a whole load of regret when he can’t just pull up stakes and go home from basic training. What the hell, porn and escorting would have been a better career path for him.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | October 28, 2019 1:38 AM |
It’s like Private Benjamin all over again.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | October 28, 2019 1:44 AM |
I hope he takes selfies in the army showers.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | October 28, 2019 2:25 AM |
This is quite possibly the worst move he could have made.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | October 28, 2019 2:35 AM |
Wow, I really did not see this plot twist coming.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | October 28, 2019 1:46 PM |
R34- booger sugar is cocaine.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | October 28, 2019 2:01 PM |
Joining the military is just a prerequisite for him to be able to appear on Active Duty site.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | October 28, 2019 2:04 PM |
He’s not allowed to drop out of the army, is he?
I think it will be a rude awakening when he gets sick of it.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | October 28, 2019 3:09 PM |
R53 I would laugh so much if he went AWOL. I'm sure he couldn't get any of his sugar daddies to pay for his college since his wrestling scholarship went kaput. I'm guessing he's going to try and use the GI Bill for his college tuition after he gets out.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | October 28, 2019 5:54 PM |
Ass or cock pics, please. His drama is tiresome.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | October 28, 2019 6:01 PM |
Will he be Tweeting, Snapping, IGing and YouTubing from basic and then the war? Is he hoping that they will make him the poster boy for recruiting gay grunts?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | October 29, 2019 12:35 AM |
Basic training for a basic bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | October 29, 2019 12:38 AM |
May be a good thing. Get away from the destructive distractions of WeHo and gay sugar daddies. Build some self esteem. Maybe get some good tech training. Better than going to University of Phoenix and showing his ass for SM likes.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | October 29, 2019 4:16 PM |
[quote]Better than going to University of Phoenix and showing his ass for SM likes.
I mean, sure, but his actual alternative was fucking Columbia on a wrestling scholarship. He had ambitions of being a corporate lawyer... I remember him sporting a Columbia Law sweater like... the first week of Freshman year. He's a two time Ivy League drop out who'll be starting at the bottom rung in the Army. He quite literally had everything going for him. He was an attractive, young, white man in American who was already benefiting from it tenfold. He must be a truly self-destructive person.
Though I do remember him saying that he thought about joining the army even before attending Columbia, so maybe this fallback is something he's always wanted.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | October 29, 2019 6:52 PM |
Such a wild ride, from would-be Ivy League educated lawyer to Army recruit, with stops as a social media influencer, sugar daddy-loving yacht boy and conservative podcast host along the way. My guess is the Army will either make or break him.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | October 29, 2019 7:35 PM |
He'll quit before boot camp is over.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | October 29, 2019 9:36 PM |
Will he continue his podcast? Will David Mazouz visit him overseas?
Also, quick question... what's become of Jackson? And to go even further back, how's Grant doing? I assume he's thriving to be honest... still in school and everything.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | October 29, 2019 10:09 PM |
It seems Dylan is now taking credit for the new NCAA rules allowing college students to make money off their likeness.
Somehow I find that hard to believe. He was a college athlete for all of about 20 minutes.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | November 3, 2019 6:54 PM |
Right, r45. Like he couldn't already get so much dick.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | November 3, 2019 6:59 PM |
Hi Dylan!! I guess you’re acting as your own publicist!
by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 3, 2019 7:00 PM |
[quote]R65 He was a college athlete for all of about 20 minutes.
That boy should be EXPELLED!
by Anonymous | reply 68 | November 3, 2019 7:05 PM |
He’s obviously bipolar and needs help
by Anonymous | reply 69 | November 3, 2019 7:07 PM |
He’s been getting all the dick and ass he wants for YEARS.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | November 3, 2019 7:09 PM |
R70 dick, no ass. He’s 100% bottom
by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 3, 2019 7:11 PM |
I don’t believe he’s 100% bottom.
Most of these young guys are vers
by Anonymous | reply 72 | November 3, 2019 7:13 PM |
tapatalk thread for when Dylan and his momfans invetiably FF this one to hell.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | November 3, 2019 7:35 PM |
I don't know... this Dylan thread's been up for a while. So has that Dr. Jake one. Perhaps Muriel's become less bloodthirsty as of late.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | November 3, 2019 8:24 PM |
He has great nipples. Yum Yum. Now in the Army, he'll look even better.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | November 3, 2019 8:39 PM |
[quote]in the Army, he'll look even better.
How is that possible?
by Anonymous | reply 76 | November 3, 2019 8:41 PM |
He will look the same. Only in uniform.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | November 3, 2019 8:43 PM |
I love a man in uniform .
by Anonymous | reply 78 | November 3, 2019 8:45 PM |
DL is going straight down the tubes. Half to 3/4ths of all the threads are instagram studs. Sad...
by Anonymous | reply 79 | November 3, 2019 8:49 PM |
Be the change you wanna see, R79!
by Anonymous | reply 80 | November 3, 2019 8:59 PM |
Still no dick or butt pics?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | November 6, 2019 8:35 PM |
R82 he needs to release them while he’s young and people still care.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | November 6, 2019 8:38 PM |
...which is why I asked!
by Anonymous | reply 84 | November 6, 2019 8:38 PM |
...okay!
by Anonymous | reply 85 | November 6, 2019 8:43 PM |
Bobble-headed hooker.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | November 7, 2019 1:48 PM |
I’ve never seen anyone more thirsty for the camera. That’s one of the biggest turnoffs.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | November 7, 2019 1:53 PM |
This is the kind of person you hope dies soon. Offers nothing to society, does nothing to improve the lives of others, and contributes nothing but hungry thirst trap pics.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | November 7, 2019 4:39 PM |
Physique pics are a fabulous contribution. It's not space station engineering, no.
But Dylan and his gorgeous body and the hard work he does to maintain it are welcome.
The problem is, it looks like Dylan is lazy and impulsive. He doesn't have the discipline to maintain anything challenging. He may be good for short bursts of greatness, such as in wrestling matches. But he can't do a disciplined, daily grind of anything.
Maybe he hopes the army will give him that. Certainly it will if he lasts there. But can he last anywhere? Consistency is not his thing.
He's a sprinter, not a long-distance runner.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | November 7, 2019 9:27 PM |
Just like in (collegiate and freestyle) wrestling, he only lasts three two-minute rounds.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | November 7, 2019 9:45 PM |
Hot to death. My type bro
by Anonymous | reply 92 | November 7, 2019 9:53 PM |
It's all fun and games until you hit the gay wall at 30 years of age. If you're still relying on your face and/or body by then, it's all downhill from there. All the Insta-ho pics in the world can't help you then.
Time to get some marketable skill, Dylan. The gay clock is running.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | November 7, 2019 10:06 PM |
After all this time still no nudity?
by Anonymous | reply 94 | November 7, 2019 10:14 PM |
Where has the widow Jackson been all this time?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | November 8, 2019 1:34 AM |
More like what's Grant up to? Internships galore I'm sure.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | November 9, 2019 3:50 AM |
When is Dylan’s sex tape going to leak?
by Anonymous | reply 97 | November 9, 2019 1:16 PM |
Lol he is such a loser. Joining the army is the lowest of low.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | November 17, 2019 8:32 AM |
[Quote]Such a wild ride, from would-be Ivy League educated lawyer to Army recruit, with stops as a social media influencer, sugar daddy-loving yacht boy and conservative podcast host along the way.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | November 17, 2019 8:38 AM |
Thoughts on Dylan's new boy toy? They're obviously fucking. I thought he was back with Jackson at first, but we all know Dylan's got a type.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | November 17, 2019 10:13 PM |
Was Dylan a bottom from the beginning or did he evolve into one?
by Anonymous | reply 101 | November 17, 2019 10:35 PM |
Dylan sure loves his fem top twinks.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | November 18, 2019 12:15 AM |
Started from the top now he here
by Anonymous | reply 104 | November 18, 2019 5:32 PM |
Apparently that twink is a druggy high schooler who flunked out with a 1.7(!).
Remember when Dylan went after Jackson's ex, Aaron...
by Anonymous | reply 105 | November 19, 2019 9:17 PM |
TikTok has a 16 year old telling a story about how he was approached by Dylan to be in a 3 way with a 15 year old. He has all the screen grabs and it seems legit. He's going to end up in jail,right?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | December 2, 2019 12:29 AM |
R106 where?
by Anonymous | reply 107 | December 2, 2019 12:29 AM |
TIkTok links work here, r106
by Anonymous | reply 108 | December 2, 2019 12:57 AM |
Where are the other 2 parts?
by Anonymous | reply 110 | December 2, 2019 1:18 AM |
Major dirt....love it. Even gets that ex-boyfriend involved (that skinny guy that followed him to New York and ended up beating up his mom)
by Anonymous | reply 112 | December 2, 2019 1:31 AM |
His ex beat up his mom ?
by Anonymous | reply 113 | December 2, 2019 2:17 AM |
No, his ex Jackson beat up his own mom and sister when they confronted him with the truth about Dylan and Jackson didn't want to believe it. Dylan was absent from their family home when it happened and Jackson was drunk. Dylan later returned to their home and found it surrounded by police. There's a police report that is public record.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 2, 2019 2:41 AM |
Dylan likes young teens. Barf
by Anonymous | reply 115 | December 2, 2019 2:51 AM |
Yeah, blech. That is really beyond creepy.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | December 2, 2019 3:56 AM |
Just a hunch, but I bet that Dylan was nothing more than a "procurer" for someone else. **Hint Hint***
by Anonymous | reply 117 | December 2, 2019 4:03 AM |
Dylan is one of those people that I kind of enjoy watching the demise of his social popularity. He burst onto the scene with some real promise but it didn't take long to realize that he such a douche. I think I would respect him more if he just admitted that he really is nothing more than a whore. I can also see him doing what r117 suggest. After he quits the Army (which you know he will) I can see him becoming a sort of pimp/whore.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | December 2, 2019 4:11 AM |
How does Dylan look in a jockstrap?
by Anonymous | reply 119 | December 2, 2019 4:13 AM |
Old and Boomery.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | December 2, 2019 7:01 AM |
r117 Lucky for him, his sugardaddies were not pedophiles and were mostly interested in young men like himself. Had they been into the underaged set, a socio/psychopath like Dylan would have no qualms trying to recruit them and gotten into much bigger trouble.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | December 2, 2019 7:08 AM |
Funny you should mention that r117
Alt gossip accused Dylan of that in February
by Anonymous | reply 122 | December 2, 2019 11:56 AM |
Of course that's what he was doing. That Cohen dude he was hanging out with and all the others. There was a price for all those private jets and luxury vacations. It's all a cycle with that crowd. You hook a hot young guy to bring in more hot young guys as the older hot young guys cycle out when people get tired of fucking them or in other words the world's oldest profession.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | December 2, 2019 12:05 PM |
According to a thread on LPSG, he's also a fan of underage-looking twink porn star Austin Young (a.k.a. Elder Xanders from Mormonboyz).
by Anonymous | reply 124 | December 2, 2019 12:24 PM |
He's nice looking, but not model material.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | December 2, 2019 12:51 PM |
It was very telling that Geick found the need to lie about why he knows Michael Cohen. I still chuckle thinking of that "family friend" bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | December 2, 2019 12:56 PM |
He’s a pervert. A bad look for gays.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | December 2, 2019 3:59 PM |
So Dylan used to recruit minors for Singer? Ugh
by Anonymous | reply 128 | December 2, 2019 4:01 PM |
I honestly can barely tell the difference in ages between them. So whatever. The legalities of 16 and 20 year olds having sex are strange. Don’t care for either - but I guess 20 year olds need to be extra cautious in choosing hookups.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | December 2, 2019 4:07 PM |
By the time I was 20 I was not looking at 15 year olds... he seeks out minors. That won’t change as he gets older r129 aka pedo apologist
by Anonymous | reply 130 | December 2, 2019 4:20 PM |
To a 16 year old, there's a huge difference between dating another 16 year old and dating a 20 year old.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | December 2, 2019 4:34 PM |
Can somebody please link to an example of his "conservative podcast?"
Where does this accusation come from?
by Anonymous | reply 132 | December 2, 2019 5:57 PM |
What is the minimum length of time someone can enlist in the army for?
by Anonymous | reply 133 | December 2, 2019 6:54 PM |
I believe you are required to do 2 years of active duty followed by 6 years in reserve at the minimum.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | December 2, 2019 7:03 PM |
When I was 16, if some 20-year-old jock stud had shown interest in me (a truly unlikely prospect), I would have thought that I had died and gone to heaven. However, when I was 20, I would have had no interest whatsoever in a 16-year-old.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | December 3, 2019 4:11 AM |
Did he take out loans for his tuition and room and board at Columbia? Perhaps he's joining the army to get some sort of military student loan forgiveness program?
by Anonymous | reply 136 | December 3, 2019 7:34 AM |
All of Codyhrc tik toks about predator Dylan are here
If you believe him and I do, Dylan has a pattern of going after 16 and 15 year olds
by Anonymous | reply 137 | December 4, 2019 8:55 AM |
This kid has a career at TMZ - or as the new Perez Hilton. Lol - he comes for the bitch. He probably is loving the attention.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | December 4, 2019 3:38 PM |
[79] Deal with it. Every famous or good looking person has an Instagram.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | December 7, 2019 7:52 AM |
R43 He did get a taste of Military Academy in freshman year after being expelled from Vernon Hills High School for fighting. But it seems it was too far away and expensive for his parents and he got back into VHHS mainly because of his wrestling.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | December 7, 2019 8:30 AM |
R140 Do we think it was in military academy where he first started getting fucked?
by Anonymous | reply 141 | December 7, 2019 1:21 PM |
R141 No he was fiddling before that. Probably even in middle school. The fight had to do with his homophobia at the time. The boy, a close friend, in retrospect his boyfriend, "was getting too close" and he was afraid of being labeled as gay. They had a fight and were expelled. It's all in earlier DL threads Dylan participated in.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | December 8, 2019 10:00 AM |
His latest Instagram posts seem to imply he misses Columbia. Poor kid seems all over the place- he should have just stuck with it. Honestly, graduating would not have been difficult as an athlete.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | December 15, 2019 8:34 PM |
He's still hanging our with his sugar daddies🤮
by Anonymous | reply 144 | December 18, 2019 10:21 AM |
out*
by Anonymous | reply 145 | December 18, 2019 10:21 AM |
He took his still in high school bf to meet his Sugar daddy pimps. The kid was in a club drinking at 18 also.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | December 18, 2019 12:31 PM |
So now he is a mid-level pimp.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | December 18, 2019 2:29 PM |
r139, you couldn't sound more shallow and vapid if you tried.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | December 18, 2019 2:43 PM |
Hahah... I mean, it's clear that Dylan's had a thing for underaged looking boys since we've known him, but to see proof that he's actually pursuing them is hilarious. Would he get in trouble for this? Sending dick pics to underaged kids? I mean... if they wanted to, could they do something about this? Doesn't seem like people care all that much.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | December 18, 2019 2:44 PM |
Sorry... not sending dick pics to underaged kids... Dylan was saving underaged kids' dick pics.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | December 18, 2019 2:45 PM |
Yes. That is a crime.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | December 18, 2019 3:02 PM |
R146: that's really sad and pathetic, if true. The cognitive dissonance required to bring your "boyfriend" around men you know to be predatory is distressing.
He needs help (if true.)
by Anonymous | reply 152 | December 18, 2019 10:16 PM |
R150: yes- he could be charged with possession of child pornography under federal statute. He's an imbecile and deserves his reckoning. Soliciting the pics is a separate crime, too. A whole ass mess.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | December 18, 2019 10:21 PM |
I will never understand why everyone is so fascinated by this loser.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | December 18, 2019 10:55 PM |
R154, we just want to see the legendary hole.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | December 18, 2019 10:57 PM |
Are the authorities aware that Dylan lusts after young boys?
by Anonymous | reply 156 | December 19, 2019 2:40 AM |
Is it possible that there’s already an ongoing investigation into his illicit activities with boys?
by Anonymous | reply 157 | December 19, 2019 3:10 AM |
An investigation might derail his planned military career.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | December 19, 2019 3:15 AM |
OK Detective LaToya
by Anonymous | reply 159 | December 19, 2019 3:16 AM |
I think he misses his Rentboy lifestyle and will back out of the Army. I googled it and you can quit before you swear an oath at basic training. Retracting an Enlistment. Although your recruiter might tell you otherwise, it's the Department of Defense's official policy that anyone can request to be released from the DEP. Most DEP discharge requests are approved. ... Today's military is an all-volunteer force.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | December 19, 2019 3:21 AM |
I'm thinking his dick is small.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | December 19, 2019 3:55 AM |
Dylan wouldn’t make it in the military.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | December 19, 2019 4:00 AM |
Dylan has a micro penis and sagging boobs.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | December 19, 2019 8:51 AM |
damn he look good, dude how do I reach u to pay u for a date. got a ten inch cock for ur hot hole babe. where u at?
by Anonymous | reply 164 | December 19, 2019 11:15 AM |
I think his plan is to be a pass around gangbang army bottom.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | December 19, 2019 11:31 AM |
Isn't this a goal shared by all of us...???
by Anonymous | reply 166 | December 19, 2019 11:40 AM |
don't know how he does it but he looks awfully good. how do I view his nudie vids?
by Anonymous | reply 167 | December 19, 2019 2:13 PM |
He has “dead of an OD at a rich old guys penthouse” written all over him
by Anonymous | reply 168 | December 19, 2019 2:15 PM |
Why is his chest so long?
by Anonymous | reply 169 | December 19, 2019 4:14 PM |
From Ivy League hopeful to Army grunt with underage nudes. Could you imagine how easy his life would have been if he'd just stuck it out at Columbia and played the game? What an idiot.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | December 19, 2019 4:21 PM |
The vlog, which people paid good money to fund, the podcast... none of his personal creative endeavors managed to take off either.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | December 19, 2019 4:23 PM |
Really a classic of the generation. Wants to skip the hard work and just be famous. Throwing away an Ivy League education is just plain stupid. Beg, borrow steal to get the money for tuition - but it’s the best thing that will have happened to him. A case study in the dangers of social media and too much, too soon.
It’s like a face tattoo. The privilege of the young and stupid to be ignorant of consequences. But instead of a minor mistake - like a arm tattoo, or in this case doing poorly in school - it’s a mistake that will ruin his life.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | December 19, 2019 4:30 PM |
What I find odd though is that a couple of the other Yacht-hoes he palled around with were also attending prestigious universities and pursuing difficult subjectives. I remember checking one of their Instagrams and they were studying in some technical, bio-related field at USC. Still a total whore, but at least getting an education. You'd assume maybe Dylan would take inspiration from that... the idea that you can actually have it all, but he fucking bungled it hardcore.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | December 19, 2019 4:50 PM |
There is nothing wrong with pursuing the military as a career.. assuming he can stick with it. I am skeptical.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | December 19, 2019 4:53 PM |
It’s so painfully obvious he’s an unsatisfied, hungry, attention whore that will never be able to fill his void. (Although I’d gladly fuck his “void” before he commits suicide)
by Anonymous | reply 175 | December 19, 2019 5:00 PM |
He just wants it all without having to work for it.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | December 19, 2019 6:29 PM |
R176 - yes he’s a useless whore, but I think most of us “want it all without having to work for it.”
by Anonymous | reply 177 | December 19, 2019 7:59 PM |
How long until he launches an OnlyFans account? x
by Anonymous | reply 178 | December 19, 2019 8:42 PM |
I’m surprised that he hasn’t already gone the OnlyFans route. It would play to the exhibitionist in him.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | December 19, 2019 10:46 PM |
His bussy is both legendary and unseen.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | December 19, 2019 10:51 PM |
It's actually admirable how careful he's been about nudes. The closest we got was that boner outline through the underwear.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | December 20, 2019 7:42 AM |
R178 Not going to happen. As long as he continues making $2000-$5000 per month online through social media, he won't. And no with joining the army, even less likely.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | December 21, 2019 3:08 PM |
Are all his Instagram pics taken by professional photographers?
by Anonymous | reply 183 | December 21, 2019 3:13 PM |
He’s probably doing well enough with a few generous sugar daddies. Getting that money but maintaining the luxury of keeping it low key.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | December 21, 2019 3:20 PM |
Definitely putting out for cash, but not out there for the world to see. Smart.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | December 21, 2019 3:20 PM |
R170: it would have been ridiculously easy. Athletes in the Ivy League have it completely made.
R181: I would say there's little admirable about being careful about your nudes. It requires base levels of sense- it's the rest of men and boys that are idiotic and careless about their nudes.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | December 26, 2019 11:32 PM |
NYE Boy whores on parade for the sugar daddies. I want to see the after party orgy pics and the holes of the worn out gangbang bottoms.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | January 2, 2020 12:38 PM |
That looks like a Whit Stillman set.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | January 2, 2020 12:40 PM |
I'm so glad Dylan and his Sugar Daddies are only into white boys
by Anonymous | reply 189 | January 2, 2020 2:12 PM |
R189 wtf. Get help.
by Anonymous | reply 190 | January 2, 2020 2:17 PM |
But only white help.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | January 2, 2020 2:20 PM |
fuck off r190
It's well known that Dylan is a racist and I've never seen anybody black Hispanic or Asian around Anthony, Dylan any of Dylan's friends or that fat fuck Michael Cohen.
And I'm glad of it. I love watching crazy white people whore games. lol
by Anonymous | reply 192 | January 2, 2020 2:25 PM |
So does he act like he is Michael Cohen's boyfriend when he is at these get togethers? Is he thought of as Michael's? I always get this deep seedy almost sinister feeling when I see pictures of groups of people like in r187 photos. Like there is a dark underbelly to this supposed nicely dressed, jovial group of boys and men.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | January 2, 2020 2:59 PM |
Dylan’s face haha filling out, looking more manly inR187. That’s saying a lot because he had an extremely masculine bone structure in high school even. What a stud.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | January 3, 2020 9:40 AM |
R193 because there usually is one. Those men are usually no good. Very wicked, no souls.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | January 3, 2020 12:13 PM |
I bet this chode is seriously regretting his enlistment now, eh?
by Anonymous | reply 196 | January 3, 2020 7:00 PM |
Such an interesting combination of gays were at Anthony Watson's NYE party. I saw Teen Wolf's Jeff Davis and Andrew Matarazzo were there too.
But yes, seeing the very obvious combination of older gay men with their young twinks is pretty amusing.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | January 3, 2020 7:17 PM |
It’s gross.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | January 3, 2020 7:58 PM |
Dylan's face looks 20 years older than his real age. He needs to lay off the steroids.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | January 3, 2020 8:39 PM |
The Michael Cohen /Anthony Watson axis is creepy. Ugly middle aged guys creeping on twinks. The NY version of Bryan Singer. But without the relevance. Sad.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | January 3, 2020 8:46 PM |
Bryan Singer was at Anthony Watson's party r200.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | January 4, 2020 2:01 PM |
R201 seriously? That's disgusting. I'm sure someone is investigating Watson as well as his friend Michael with the glasses. It's such a blatant prostitution ring and they clearly favor young boys.
@FBI where you at?
by Anonymous | reply 202 | January 4, 2020 2:16 PM |
Bryan Singer probably feels safe because there is a literal gay mafia out there killing accusers. I'm quite serious I have no proof, but 3 of Kevin Spacey's accusers have died in very mysterious circumstances in just the last year or so.
I say gay mafia but what I really mean is some very powerful people with money are paying people to get rid of trouble for them.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | January 4, 2020 2:50 PM |
I would totally watch a Netflix series about the gay mafia and rent boy prostitution ring, hell Dylan could even star in it. Or it could be a bit like Charlie’s Angels where three cute boyish struggling police academy rookies are recruited to go undercover in the ring to expose the twisty wealthy daddies.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | January 4, 2020 4:33 PM |
Very few would
by Anonymous | reply 205 | January 4, 2020 5:11 PM |
Looks like he’s off to the Army. Wonder if he’s going to be able to cut it.
I say no.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | January 6, 2020 4:13 AM |
So is he off to bootcamp and going to be on radio silence for months? Was NYE just a huge fuckfest to get his rocks off before going into the Army? How high are the chances for him being thrown out for indecent behavior when he rallies a platoon of skinny twink recruits to gangbang him in the showers? And then goes on to become Active Duty’s star bottom?
by Anonymous | reply 208 | January 6, 2020 4:46 PM |
He's not going off to war, narcissistic whores would never do that. The Army is for people who need to reap the benefits that come with it, which is why Dylan would never sign up. He doesn't need a G.I. Bill, he can sell his ass to pay for any college he wants and then pretend like he got in due to his intelligence. This bullshit about him being self-made is annoying and infuriating.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | January 6, 2020 5:16 PM |
He’s hoping it will boost his butch credentials so that Cohen/Watson will pay more for his ass.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | January 6, 2020 5:30 PM |
His annoying ass should be sent to the ME.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | January 10, 2020 4:35 PM |
He’s hoping to become a recruiter so he can go around high schools and sexually assault twinky students.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | January 10, 2020 4:45 PM |
I always get impression that he is scheming something. He so rarely comes off as genuine and I think it will always make him seem low-rent in the party scene. Joining the Army just magnifies that. He is pretty but I am sure he isn't worth having to deal with a potentially angry narcissist.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | January 10, 2020 4:51 PM |
I like the idea of muscular Dylan riding skinny twink dick. I wonder if his sugar daddies request that he tops them?
by Anonymous | reply 214 | January 10, 2020 4:56 PM |
What’s happening to those little boys?
Did Dylan actually envelop any of them?
by Anonymous | reply 215 | January 10, 2020 5:08 PM |
Abuse victim about to continue the cycle?
by Anonymous | reply 216 | January 10, 2020 5:34 PM |
Dylan had the nerve to tell guys to stay away from "his man" while he's gone. This is a guy who was constantly cheating on every guy he ever dated. His lack of self awareness and shame is amazing.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | January 11, 2020 12:16 AM |
He Spelled boy wrong .r217
by Anonymous | reply 218 | January 11, 2020 1:23 AM |
Who the hell is his boy? Michael Cohen let him date someone?
by Anonymous | reply 219 | January 11, 2020 2:11 AM |
His new BF is Johnny.
by Anonymous | reply 220 | January 11, 2020 5:14 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 222 | January 11, 2020 12:25 PM |
He looks into meth.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | January 11, 2020 1:18 PM |
R223 yeah, the face is a little aged for 20ish
by Anonymous | reply 224 | January 11, 2020 3:11 PM |
Do Gleick Stans and Styles Stans ovelap?
by Anonymous | reply 225 | January 11, 2020 3:12 PM |
I guess there no mystery to Johnny are you queer?
by Anonymous | reply 226 | January 11, 2020 3:15 PM |
Johnny's super feminine looking. Does he wear makeup?
I like how Dylan's also turning his enlistment into some fashionable photo op at every turn. Seems like he's treating it just as seriously as Columbia, and we all know how that went.
by Anonymous | reply 227 | January 11, 2020 3:21 PM |
Will he wrestle for the army?
by Anonymous | reply 228 | January 11, 2020 3:36 PM |
Johnny is a,self admitted drug addict r223
or at least he said he used to have a problem with drugs.
by Anonymous | reply 230 | January 11, 2020 3:57 PM |
Dylan sure likes them boys fragile. That Johnny kid looks like he’d shatter into pieces if I punched him. It’s so odd how Dylan the wrestling tough guy likes these wafer-thin, shimmery twinks. I guess he needs to feel dominant over them?
by Anonymous | reply 231 | January 11, 2020 10:13 PM |
I hope Johnny has a big dick like Dylan’s ex. That bottom has a loose hole and saggy tits.
by Anonymous | reply 232 | January 11, 2020 10:14 PM |
Dylan got them both rings. So are they engaged? Would be the second time he's impulsively got "engaged" The first time was with Grant before he went to LA and met Jackson.
by Anonymous | reply 233 | January 12, 2020 10:39 AM |
So Johnny is going to become some military wife?
by Anonymous | reply 235 | January 12, 2020 1:47 PM |
Nudes?
by Anonymous | reply 236 | January 12, 2020 4:23 PM |
R105 It was a GPA 1.4 according to his TicTok
by Anonymous | reply 237 | January 12, 2020 7:00 PM |
He’s weirdly a perfect combination of Jackson and their friend Bryce Hall.
by Anonymous | reply 238 | January 12, 2020 7:40 PM |
I noticed the resemblance as well. Dylan’s probably been lusting after Bryce for ages now and this kid allows him to exact long-held fantasies of riding Bryce Hall’s dick like a bucking bull in a rodeo.
by Anonymous | reply 239 | January 13, 2020 12:32 PM |
[quote]That Johnny kid looks like he’d shatter into pieces if I punched him.
Perhaps. But why would you punch him, r231?
by Anonymous | reply 240 | January 13, 2020 12:45 PM |
Johnny looks like he’s strung out all the time.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | January 14, 2020 1:23 AM |
I saw what looked like a shaved head recruit photo of DG, but haven’t found it anywhere again. Did anyone catch that and have it?
by Anonymous | reply 242 | January 22, 2020 5:29 AM |
Not sure if this is the exact one, but gives you an idea
by Anonymous | reply 243 | January 22, 2020 4:43 PM |
Some have speculated that he and his bf Johnny got engaged or married
by Anonymous | reply 245 | February 26, 2020 12:30 PM |
What’s the little cum dumpster up to these days?
by Anonymous | reply 246 | February 26, 2020 1:08 PM |
Did he quit the Army yet?
by Anonymous | reply 247 | February 26, 2020 1:35 PM |
He's in Law School and has a podcast.
by Anonymous | reply 248 | February 26, 2020 1:51 PM |
Dylan ended that Podcast months ago before it barely got start it. He did an interview with Ethan Ethan Cutkosky that was never released.
by Anonymous | reply 249 | February 26, 2020 3:31 PM |
He is having a blast
by Anonymous | reply 250 | March 4, 2020 12:56 AM |
R4 he’s kinda hot
by Anonymous | reply 251 | March 4, 2020 3:21 AM |
R4 his tits are deformed.
by Anonymous | reply 252 | March 4, 2020 3:28 AM |
R248 Aww, how he wishes. The fact that when he was posting here it seemed to come as news to him that Columbia Law was a postgraduate thing was probably a good sign that was never going to happen.
by Anonymous | reply 253 | March 4, 2020 3:30 AM |
When does his video Basic Training: Gangbang Bottom drop? The first in his Basic Training TM series?
by Anonymous | reply 254 | March 4, 2020 3:31 AM |
He's back on his snapchat. He's definitely in the army, he was sporting the cut and showing off his gun.
by Anonymous | reply 255 | March 4, 2020 3:32 AM |
He's going to be the type who posts stuff like "every day should be Veteran's Day", demanding discounts, asking why people aren't thanking him for his service and constantly mentions how he's in the army. Mind, he was basically already doing that before he actually went in.
by Anonymous | reply 256 | March 4, 2020 3:36 AM |
R255 Gun gun or euphemism gun?
by Anonymous | reply 257 | March 4, 2020 3:58 AM |
R257 No, an actual gun, lol.
by Anonymous | reply 258 | March 4, 2020 4:44 AM |
Literally anyone Dylan's age and whose in decent health can join the military and get through basic training yet asshokes like him think they deserve these great accolades for some reason. This worship of a military needs to stop.
Every older male member of my family, my Father, Grandfathers, uncles cousins etc. served in wars from World War II to Korea to Vietnam and not one of them ever encouraged the younger generation to join the military not 1 of them it never came up. None of them ever romanticized the military nor did any of them think they were better than anyone else because they joined the military or were drafted. But today if you don't worship a soldier you're somehow unpatriotic.
Dylan will be an even bigger right wing asshole now that he's joined something literally anyone can join.
by Anonymous | reply 259 | March 4, 2020 9:04 AM |
R259 His stepfather was in the army and had apparently suggested it. I believe he was in some kind of unit like the Rangers or something, and Dylan has expressed a desire to join them too.
by Anonymous | reply 260 | March 4, 2020 4:57 PM |
Dylan is fucking every twink in his barracks.
by Anonymous | reply 261 | March 5, 2020 1:31 AM |
R261 Correction: Dylan is getting fucked by every twink in his barracks.
by Anonymous | reply 262 | March 5, 2020 1:35 AM |
He can't be. Dylan loves Johnny and would never cheat on him 🤥
by Anonymous | reply 263 | March 5, 2020 9:10 AM |
He said that he is writing again. And poster a pic of him in the Army
by Anonymous | reply 264 | March 28, 2020 7:21 PM |
Will Dylan be enforcing martial law?
by Anonymous | reply 265 | March 28, 2020 7:55 PM |
R265, bottoms don’t enforce anything.
by Anonymous | reply 266 | March 28, 2020 8:06 PM |
I'm still waiting for any evidence that:
1) Dylan is a bottom.
2) Dylan is a Republican and writes or podcasts pro-Trump, Republican politics.
3) Dylan procures for anyone, let alone Bryan Singer.
Where are the receipts?
by Anonymous | reply 267 | March 28, 2020 8:30 PM |
His writing hasn't improved then
by Anonymous | reply 269 | March 28, 2020 9:15 PM |
R266 Dylan is a bossy bottom.
by Anonymous | reply 270 | April 12, 2020 10:25 AM |
Over to this thread now then?
by Anonymous | reply 271 | April 17, 2020 11:11 PM |
And he's back on Instagram. Obviously the lack of attention got to him.
by Anonymous | reply 272 | April 25, 2020 10:07 PM |
Where are the hole pics?
by Anonymous | reply 273 | April 25, 2020 10:08 PM |
Johnny still doesn’t follow Miss Geick. Dylan also deleted the lives up post about him.
by Anonymous | reply 274 | April 25, 2020 10:17 PM |
☝️⬆️☝️
Good lord. 🙄 Yes, R275. Navel gazing very thinly veiled as soul-searching.
by Anonymous | reply 276 | April 26, 2020 1:04 AM |
At least he's basically admitting to have been a plaything for sugar daddies.
by Anonymous | reply 277 | April 26, 2020 2:01 AM |
[QUOTE] I question whether or not I must leave this world I created behind in order to change.
Suicide note?
by Anonymous | reply 278 | April 26, 2020 2:43 AM |
Nope, just poor writing.
by Anonymous | reply 279 | April 26, 2020 2:46 AM |
Deactivating his SM didn’t last long. Did Dylan cheat in his latest boyfriend?
by Anonymous | reply 280 | April 26, 2020 3:21 PM |
[quote]Did Dylan cheat in his latest boyfriend?
If he cheated, it would have been in some other boy.
by Anonymous | reply 281 | April 26, 2020 3:23 PM |
Apparently he hasn't just deleted all photos of Johnny from his Instagram, but also photos of Jackson and all photos of him with the sugar daddies. He's also apparently unfollowed the porn stars and so on he used to follow, but not the sugar daddies - and he's still following Johnny, though Johnny doesn't follow him.
I'm surprised this kind of clean up didn't happen before he enlisted - wonder if he's had some fellow soldiers make some comments about some of the stuff on there.
by Anonymous | reply 282 | April 26, 2020 5:59 PM |
At first I was surprised he hadn't set his IG profile to private...then I remembered who I was dealing with, lol. I wonder if the daddies will delete him from their profiles.
by Anonymous | reply 283 | April 27, 2020 2:21 AM |
Now that it's pretty clear that no nudes or sex tapes are going to drop. Do we think they ever existed in the 1st place? Was it just that thumbnail?
by Anonymous | reply 284 | April 27, 2020 12:26 PM |
The nudes very clearly existed
by Anonymous | reply 285 | April 27, 2020 7:35 PM |
Sure the nudes exist but just because they exist doesn't mean the person to posted that thumbnail actually had them. Someone may have just shown him the thumbnail and he ran with.
Anyone who had the actual nudes and who was out for revenge would just release them to the public, they wouldn't ask for money or trade. Anyone asking for money or trade doesn't have the real stuff and is a scam artist.
by Anonymous | reply 286 | April 27, 2020 11:41 PM |
Okay but that isn't what you asked
by Anonymous | reply 287 | April 27, 2020 11:44 PM |
Yeah I should have worded my question better. Do I have your forgiveness?
by Anonymous | reply 288 | April 28, 2020 8:58 AM |
He's back on Instagram, and he's being more pretentious than ever, if you can believe that
In the post in which he tries to compare himself to Bob Dylan:
[quote]Am I a better man for hiding Marlboros from young fans, or a fraud? A liar unworthy of my title or a human aspiring to the pedestal placed above my name in numerals(k). What sharing is courage and what is foolish? How hungry can a crowd be for idols or someone to validate their own perceived inadequacies, and which function to perform? Weigh these questions each time you act and know the exhaustion of such a responsibility. I cannot be human here. This is a document to be judged and I know this now; not just the judging of the crafted persona but the crafting itself. The modern pop star is a liquid in the algorithmic molds of their consumers. Their fame is theirs alone: pocketed and unique and not to abide change. Perhaps the only answer is to cast off all such notion of meaning or importance. Perhaps there is nothing to conquer. What tragedy.
And then trying to make out his (old) thirst trap post was a social satire:
[quote]When you post a social critique mocking the consumptive nature of social media and it’s carnal appetites by showing the flawed and pornographic algorithms of these systems for what they are but people just call you a thirst trap whore “using the words of Christ to get likes. Disgusting” and then even the ones on your side just objectify you and put drooling emojis. I LITERALLY POST FOR LIKE THE FIVE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND - I HOPE YOURE HAPPY LOL
Also - whatever looks he had are fading rapidly. No wonder he had to post an old photo for his thirst trap, because this most recent one...oof
by Anonymous | reply 289 | May 10, 2020 3:18 AM |
He's such a psuedo-intellectual. He tries to use big words, and flaunt his vocabulary when all it does is come off as pretentious. Note to Dylan: Brevity is the soul of wit.
by Anonymous | reply 290 | May 10, 2020 3:28 AM |
Also, I can never understand why anyone my age would smoke. Says a lot about how vapid he is that he had to use that as an example of how he's a real person.
by Anonymous | reply 291 | May 10, 2020 3:33 AM |
Smoking ruins voices. I thought he was a singer?
by Anonymous | reply 292 | May 11, 2020 3:51 PM |
He claims to be a lot of things...
by Anonymous | reply 293 | May 11, 2020 10:56 PM |
Have to admit, he's such a douche, but it is a pretty hot video. Nice moaning too, would guess he's a pretty loud bottom.
by Anonymous | reply 295 | June 20, 2020 4:31 AM |
It does seem whoever leaked the jack off video did it deliberately on his graduation day. He must've really upset someone.
by Anonymous | reply 297 | June 20, 2020 9:44 AM |
You're right r297 and if they are reading this I just want to say.
Keep em cumming
by Anonymous | reply 298 | June 20, 2020 12:42 PM |
Yeah we definitely need to see some ass from him
by Anonymous | reply 299 | June 20, 2020 8:51 PM |
You know Dylan should have gone to West Point from the start and never get into the high class escort lane. He would have been so better off and once he graduated could have gained a massive IG following.
by Anonymous | reply 300 | June 21, 2020 4:16 AM |
He still has a lot of followers but it has been steadily declining.
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