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BREAKING Trump Admin Asks Supreme Court to Legalize Firing People For Being Gay

In the brief they just filed, they argue the Civil Rights Act cannot include sexual orientation.

There is no federal law explicitly banning employers from firing LGBT employees, but several gay plaintifs have sucessfully invoked the Civil Rights Act's ban on gender discrimination in lower court cases. The Supreme Court has never ruled on this issue.

If the Trump Admin is sucessful, the ruling will likely give other instutions like schools and public pools the ability to fire or ban LGBT people.

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by Anonymousreply 8810/17/2020

but aaron schock has a hot ass

by Anonymousreply 108/23/2019

So, Log Cabinettes, how has that ringing endorsement of the current White House occupant been working out for you?

by Anonymousreply 208/23/2019

unpossible, the Log Cabin Republicans just endorsed him

by Anonymousreply 308/23/2019

Can't wait for the Log Cabin doormats to chime in.....

by Anonymousreply 408/23/2019

[quote]No federal law explicitly bans anti-LGBTQ discrimination in workplaces.

Which is exactly the kind of law we had been hoping for. But, no—men being allowed to use women's bathrooms trumped it.

by Anonymousreply 508/23/2019

What a great day!!

Trump's tweeted "commands," RGB cancer news, and now this.

by Anonymousreply 608/23/2019

[quote] Which is exactly the kind of law we had been hoping for. But, no—men being allowed to use women's bathrooms trumped it.

During Obama's, democrats voted multiple times to explicitly add sexual orientation to the Civil Rights Act. And as far as I'm aware, every trans rights protection Dems have ever actually voted on was a small part of a much larger LGBT rights protection like the Equality Act. It's never been a one or the other situation

by Anonymousreply 708/23/2019

Is he TRYING to lose the election??!! I'm guessing he is. He wants to go back to not doing anything during week, sleeping in, and taking weekends off to play golf . . . Oh, wait.

by Anonymousreply 808/23/2019

This is why if you have any “friends” or family members that support Trump, you need to cut them off. When someone supports someone that is doing things to hurt you, then they are no friend and do not love you.

by Anonymousreply 908/23/2019

I must be thinking of Pennsylvania, then, r7. I vaguely recall an employment non-discrimination act getting killed by actual right-wing state representative Darryl Metcalfe because it included a bathroom contingency paragraph.

by Anonymousreply 1008/23/2019

Trump LOVES fucking over his allies. The log cabin republicans endorsed him THIS WEEK. They lost several members over the decision. Now they have to answer for this.

by Anonymousreply 1108/23/2019

When is National "Slap a 'Both Parties Are Equally Bad' Non-Voting Citizen" Day?

by Anonymousreply 1208/23/2019

Every day, r12. Every day.

by Anonymousreply 1308/23/2019

Can someone provide some context for this?

“...Under former president Barack Obama, the Justice Department asserted that Title VII had a broader scope than just a person’s birth sex, arguing that it protects transgender workers.

“But the Obama administration never went as far as to say the civil rights law also covered sexual orientation. It had initially opposed the argument outright, claiming that its hands were tied by prior court precedent. Yet in 2016, the Obama administration arguably dialed back its opposition by not trying to dismiss a case brought on those grounds.“

by Anonymousreply 1408/23/2019

Braking News: Secret Service issued strait jackets,

"They're coming to take me away, ha ha, They're coming to take me away, ho ho, hee hee, ha ha. To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time, And I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats, And they're coming to take me away, ha ha."

Napoleon XIV ("They're Coming to Take Me Away")

by Anonymousreply 1508/23/2019

For the next thirty years, we'll be cleaning up the mess of someone who barely squeaked into office. All because straight white people are allowed to get away with absolutely anything in this fucking world. Never forget.

by Anonymousreply 1608/23/2019

R14 The legal left did not want to have this fight at all because they weren't sure they would win. And once the supreme court rules, it will be very hard to overturn whatever they decide for decades.

The Obama admin labor department DID take the position that Title VII included sexual orientation. And they did ban all federal contractors from firing on the basis of sexual orientation, which is something they can do unilaterally. But they never took the issue to court, again because the might have lost.

The right actually largely felt the same way, which is how we've made it all these years with the supreme court never once hearing one of these cases, neither side wanted to risk losing and setting precedent.

But Trump is forcing the issue now. One way or the other, we will have an answer next summer. No one really knows how Kavanaugh or Roberts will vote on this.

by Anonymousreply 1708/23/2019

This is why we hate them!

by Anonymousreply 1808/23/2019

This country has turned into such a piece of shit. Greatest country in the world my ass. Maybe at one time, but those days are long gone.

by Anonymousreply 1908/23/2019

Trump is acting like someone who is trying to get fired, and walk away with a huge settlement.

by Anonymousreply 2008/23/2019

Nothing he does surprises me anymore. He is unhinged - whether intentionally or not. The next year and a half is going to be terribly depressing for us. It's amazing how one person can totally destroy the image of a powerful nation in just four years.

by Anonymousreply 2108/23/2019

[quote]Trump is acting like someone who is trying to get fired, and walk away with a huge settlement.

Trump has officially entered George Costanza territory.

by Anonymousreply 2208/23/2019

#25 Amendment time.

by Anonymousreply 2308/23/2019

Isn't the request to allow religious organizations the right to fire? Still not great, but not as bad as allowing any employer to discriminate.

by Anonymousreply 2408/23/2019

Conservatives are ravaging the world over. The shit in Brazil in and of itself is terribly depressing.

by Anonymousreply 2508/23/2019

Is that all R24?

Well then if only some places can fire us then it's ok!

by Anonymousreply 2608/23/2019

R26 I don't agree with it - but if you are dumb enough to go to work for a religious organization at odds with your lifestyle you sort of deserve to be fired

by Anonymousreply 2708/23/2019

I wouldn't expect Log Cabin Republicans to be bothered by this. Most conservatives think employers should be able to fire employees for any reason, even if it's discriminatory.

by Anonymousreply 2808/23/2019

[quote]I don't agree with it...a religious organization at odds with your lifestyle

I have a feeling you agree with it.

by Anonymousreply 2908/23/2019

[quote] Isn't the request to allow religious organizations the right to fire?

I'm not sure where you got that but it isn't true. The Trump brief argues that Title VII doesn't include sexual orientation at all. They would give anyone the right to fire gay employees. He isn't requesting a special carve out in Title VII for religious employers, which I agree would be smaller thing, even though it's still wrong. But no, this is the broadest possible way to allow gay discrimination, the supreme court ruling being gay isn't covered under the Civil Rights Act at all.

In fact, Title VII isn't even just about employment. That same piece of the Civil Rights Act is what makes it illegal for schools to blanket reject all black applicants for just one example. If it becomes set in stone that Title VII doesn't include sexual orientation, we can conceivably be banned from anywhere. We would have no legal rights protecting us from it because legally nothing that happened to gay people could count as discrimination

by Anonymousreply 3008/23/2019

What the help is happening to the USA and why the hell cant the political opposition get their shit together??😡

by Anonymousreply 3108/23/2019

thats why f@gs that are repub deserve to be hanged tbh

by Anonymousreply 3208/23/2019

EEOC still says TVII forbids discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. SCOTUS will soon decide the issue for all

by Anonymousreply 3308/23/2019

It seems like a pefect slippery slope for conservative Rethuglicunts... If this interpretation can be changed, in their favour, other cases up against the SC will not be able to argue under it. I don't see this just being limited to religious employers.

by Anonymousreply 3408/23/2019

Then he should fire Jared.

by Anonymousreply 3508/23/2019

I'm not trying to downplay this, its worth freaking out about.

But this will affect the federal civil rights act. Many states still have their own state level Civil Rights Act that bans discrimantion of LGBT people. I know my state of CT does. So some of us will be safe. Still I feel awful for the gays who live in flyover.

by Anonymousreply 3608/23/2019

A lot of the trans community are mentally ill and therefore make shitty/unstable employees.

by Anonymousreply 3708/23/2019

butter emails!

and bernie bros

by Anonymousreply 3808/23/2019

But they’d never fire me!

by Anonymousreply 3908/23/2019

but I'm an assimilated German, there must be some mistake, i don't belong in that railcar

by Anonymousreply 4008/23/2019

r32 Clear house and you can start with the gay porn industry. Far too many racists, republicans and straight people who are supporting these people in there.

by Anonymousreply 4108/23/2019

The opposition is joke, nancy pelosi chuck schumer is a joke, hillary clitoris obama all jokes, the right wing is running us over (sometimes literally) and they dont do anything to attack them back. Soon enough we're gonna have to take matters into our hands, I'm starting to consider getting guns to protect myself.

by Anonymousreply 4208/23/2019

[quote]if you are dumb enough to go to work for a religious organization at odds with your lifestyle

No gay person uses the word 'lifestyle' to describe BEING GAY. Fuck off, Republican.

[quote]why the hell cant the political opposition get their shit together??

The 'political opposition' can't do much when they're out of power. As we see over and over again.

by Anonymousreply 4308/23/2019

r43 get in front of the fucking cameras and make our case for fucks sake, go hold rallies to get the base riled up (like trump does), make campaign ads, raise money, do something ........ we fucking vote for those people to roll over and die

by Anonymousreply 4408/23/2019

[quote]get in front of the fucking cameras and make our case for fucks sake

Democrats make their case every day on various ways, but the media does not pay attention, because they're too busy covering the Trump shitshow for ratings. It was that way during the Presidential campaign of 2016 and has remained so. Money is being raised every day - pay attention. Lacking the herd mentality of Republicans, Nuremberg rallies like Trump's are not the best use of our resources.

There is plenty being done. But this is what it's like when your party is out of power. It feels like screaming into the wind.

by Anonymousreply 4508/23/2019

This is the Republicans way of distracting the Democrats to talk about social issues rather than the tanking economy and healthcare. Dear Democrats please don’t fall for the bait.

by Anonymousreply 4608/23/2019

This isn’t bait, R46. We’re talking about our fucking livelihoods here. The thought of going back to the days when you could be fired just for being gay makes my blood boil.

by Anonymousreply 4708/23/2019

This isn’t bait, R46. We’re talking about our fucking livelihoods here. The thought of going back to the days when you could be fired just for being gay makes my blood boil.

by Anonymousreply 4808/23/2019

The truth is that gays never had an assurance that the law would protect their rights, and at the cusp of what looked like a turn around the Trans brigade rose to power and shut down many possible opportunities in which gay rights could have been protected. PA was not the only case where gay rights laws never made it because of the bathroom inclusion which many "allies" forced on those gay rights bills.

We said it back then, gay rights would collapse because the Trans brigade was selfish and on top of it harmful to gay rights.

by Anonymousreply 4908/23/2019

You're either a deplorable or too stupid to function.

Trans people aren't doing this. They vote democrat. The fucking republicans are doing this you POS. And you are also doing their work by trying to divide. Im willing to bet on purpose

by Anonymousreply 5008/23/2019

Well Jenner is trans and look who she voted for R50.

by Anonymousreply 5108/23/2019

R50 = A homophobe incel POS.

What the hell are you doing here on a gay board? Asshole. The opportunity to strenghten gay rights passed because when we had the means to do so we couldn't because of the bathroom issue which was at peak between 2008-2014. Go fuck yourself homophobe. Blocked!

by Anonymousreply 5208/23/2019

I really want to hear from the conservatives on this board and the Log Cabin Republicans - but they always seem to be so quiet. Then they will come back in 4 months and declare that it was never a serious threat and that there were 'constitutional' issues with the bill.

by Anonymousreply 5308/23/2019

[quote]I really want to hear from the conservatives on this board and the Log Cabin Republicans - but they always seem to be so quiet. Then they will come back in 4 months and declare that it was never a serious threat and that there were 'constitutional' issues with the bill.

I don't think you're going to find them today. They are probably too busy licking the assholes of Republican straight leaders, probably hoping a small diminutive crumb is thrown their way. Dignity is not a concept they understand.

by Anonymousreply 5408/23/2019

[quote]No one really knows how Kavanaugh or Roberts will vote on this.

If by “no one” you mean “everyone who doesn’t live 60,000 leagues under the sea,” then you are correct.

by Anonymousreply 5508/23/2019

We are all in danger. We must stick togther.

by Anonymousreply 5608/23/2019

[quote]hillary clitoris obama

'Hillary clitoris'???

by Anonymousreply 5708/23/2019

Auto-correct.

by Anonymousreply 5808/23/2019

Trump hates these summits he has to attend because he's dumb and doesn't belong there and everyone knows it. So he sets these little landmines leading up to it to get revenge.

He can't stop the loose cannon shit and insulting everybody. His administration is a lameduck failure with next to nothing accomplished. And now Obama's economy is finally out of gas.

by Anonymousreply 5908/23/2019

r52, you are deliberately lying about history here. The first time that trans bathroom bills came into national consciousness was in 2015-2016, in North Carolina. A girl won a court ruling in 2013 to use a bathroom of her choice, but that case barely made the local news, never mind the national news. THAT'S it. This situation was completely off the public radar in 2008-2014. The failure to get gay employment rights then was the inability to get the full number of votes needed in the house and senate. Once again, we can thank our Republican congresspeople for that. It was in the Republican national platform for years that sexual relations between same sex people should be illegal and criminalized , and that same sex marriage should be illegal. Don't try to change history to make this the fault of trans people, asswipe.

Yes, people are generally slightly more squeamish about trans people in 2019 than they are about gay people in 2019, but this would not have been the case 15 or 25 years ago, when numerous polls showed that people held generally unfavorable attitudes about gays and lesbians. There has been a VERY gradual increase in tolerance for gay people since then. The real question is whether the conservative fuckers that Trump illegally got into the Supreme Court because of his illegitimate Russian-aided election will decide to be human beings with consciences or to act as the agents of Satan.

by Anonymousreply 6008/23/2019

What do rightwing gays say about this? Looking at y'all log cabin Republicans!

by Anonymousreply 6108/24/2019

[quote] Isn't the request to allow religious organizations the right to fire? Still not great, but not as bad as allowing any employer to discriminate.

1. that's how it starts. With just religious organizations allowed to do it

2. watch all these fucking fundies (hobby lobby, the koch brother, the mercers, etc) to declare themselves religious organizations. Watch trump sign an executive order allowing it, watch the dems remain as ineffective as ever and all the repugs to stay quiet), then watch all the gay people get fired

3. Watch a law get passed that allows employers to fire women who have had abortions

by Anonymousreply 6208/24/2019

In a free society one can hire or fire anyone he chooses for any reason....or for no reason! Sadly, we are not living in a free society.

by Anonymousreply 6308/24/2019

The Democrats will never be as effective as long as you keep voting for third party candidates and engage in constant, useless infighting.

Liberal and leftist voters can be their own worst enemies. So many scream about Dems not stopping the GOP, then spend months online slamming the DNC nominee, saying both parties are the same, insulting registered Dems, then on Election Day sitting out or voting third party because "the Dems never get anything done anyway."

by Anonymousreply 6408/24/2019

Trump probably told his advisers it is totally fine if grown ass men abuse, molest and rape young girls in NY mansions or on private islands. But if two grown men/women have consensual sex, have normal jobs, want to get married or start a family together, you have to draw a line and make their future lives as hard as possible.

by Anonymousreply 6508/24/2019

Again, this isn't just for religious employers. Trump Admin is arguing that ANY employer, even Walmart or McDonalds could fire people that had no performance issues just for being gay. That is explicitly what the Trump admin is saying should be legal

by Anonymousreply 6608/24/2019

I've always assumed Pence is behind a lot of this technical stuff coming into play. Which is why I never believed all the 'Pence would be worse than Trump' posts we used to get. We already have Pence calling a lot of the shots day to day.

by Anonymousreply 6708/24/2019

The only advantage to having Pence in is that he will not tank the economy with Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 6808/24/2019

We were epically stupid in 2016 and will pay for it the rest of this century

by Anonymousreply 6908/24/2019

You don’t lose elections

by Anonymousreply 7008/24/2019

R36: Northeast, Center Patch, the West and Hawaii. That's it. Study this map and makes changes in your states if need be!

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by Anonymousreply 7108/24/2019

SCOTUS will never agree with the DOJ case. Maybe the case was brought to nip the issue in the bud once and for all....

by Anonymousreply 7208/24/2019

Trump is dangerous because he will do anything for a few more votes- ANYthing. If they said bar-b-cue a baby on live TV he'd don an apron.

His biggest fear is being thought of as an illegitimate POTUS who was fired after one deplorable term. A joke.

Please help make that happen.

by Anonymousreply 7308/24/2019

R16? Make that "straight white MEN."

Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 7408/26/2019

Why would republicans care? They are already in the closet and deny being gay (Toe Tappin Senators for 50 alex) Or actively work to destroy our rights while enjoying having sex with men because we pay for their gym membership (Aaron?? Paul???) - self hating gays - this is why any gay man who goes near Aaron Shrock should be kicked out of the club.

by Anonymousreply 7508/26/2019

Republicans are our friends!

by Anonymousreply 7608/26/2019

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Luke 6:31

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Matthew 22:36-40

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matthew 7:21-23

Trump Admin, hear, this is for you.

by Anonymousreply 7708/26/2019

"Braking News"

Oh dear, r15!

by Anonymousreply 7808/26/2019

"Greatest country in the world my ass. Maybe at one time, but those days are long gone."

When r19? We've got to hear this.

by Anonymousreply 7908/26/2019

Yes, r78, "Braking," as in stop the presses-worthy. In the future you might want to think twice, post once.

by Anonymousreply 8009/01/2019

I hope it happens. I will be extremely flamboyant so I can get unemployment.

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by Anonymousreply 8109/01/2019

No blacks, no gays and no jews/

by Anonymousreply 8209/01/2019

“SCOTUS will never agree with the DOJ case. Maybe the case was brought to nip the issue in the bud once and for all....”

Are you joking, or dumb?

by Anonymousreply 8309/01/2019

“SCOTUS will never agree with the DOJ case. Maybe the case was brought to nip the issue in the bud once and for all....”

Are you joking, or dumb?

by Anonymousreply 8409/01/2019

R82

Carlos and Carmen Vidal just had a child A lovely girl with a crooked smile Now they gotta split 'cause the Bronx ain't fit For a kid to grow up in Let's find a place they say, somewhere far away With no blacks, no Jews and no gays There but for the grace of God go I

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by Anonymousreply 8509/01/2019

Gay men considering voting for Trump pause and reflect on these actions by Trump and ask yourself why would you consider voting for someone who regards you and treats you in such a bad way? You are expendable and second class to him.

by Anonymousreply 8610/17/2020

Actually gays have rights under the first amendment against the establishment of religion. Some lower courts have already opened this pandora's box so anything the Trumpettes do regarding civil rights laws is going to be neutered by a more liberal court soon on religious freedom grounds. Let's just make sure "Dimwit Amy" doesn't get in if we can.

by Anonymousreply 8710/17/2020

Trump doesn’t really care about this issue. He filed a brief in order to motivate his base to vote. And everyone who feels that there’s something wrong with members of the LGBT community. It’s pretty simple. We are nothing but canon fodder.

by Anonymousreply 8810/17/2020
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