Whose shit did you buy in the beginning but then they let you down terribly?

Bernie Madoff - I interned at the SEC and scratched around a bit but nobody took me seriously as I was young. Also the SEC was corrupt. Then I actively lobbied at Espírito Santo and Barclays to keep a wide berth.

OOPs, and this belonged in the other thread. He didn't pass my sniff test!

As for people who let me down - Kofi Annan and Bashar al-Assad.

Bill DiBlasio and his lesbian wife

Serena Williams.

Bill Clinton

I still don't get what was so disqualifying about Spitzer's actions.

Brian Sims.

Spitzer has never let me down. I consider him an icon, a hero, a REAL man.

John Edwards

Obama. In 2008, he claimed that he would crack down on outsourcing. After he became president, he traveled to India and told them he would do nothing to hinder the inflow of Indian IT resources to replace American workers. Needless to say, that made me hate him as much as is humanly possible.

Game of Thrones

Michael Avenatti.

[quote] R10: Obama. In 2008, he claimed that he would crack down on outsourcing. After he became president, he traveled to India and told them he would do nothing to hinder the inflow of Indian IT resources to replace American workers.

It’s a complicated issue. I hate the H1B visa workers. My commuter rail station looks like little Bombay at rush hour. But suppose the US limits these visas to a tiny number. What might happen, is that more companies might relocate to India. Instead of some of the jobs, we might lose all of these jobs. I have no idea, but it’s possible. I trust Obama’s judgement.

Tony Blair

Lance Armstrong

Julian Assange

[quote]I have no idea

r13, I'll give you credit for getting that one part of your statement correct.

Hillary Clinton

Tom Selleck

Rahm Emanuel

Margaret Atwood

I've loved her work since University, but that fucking Handmaid is going to come in a Barbie Doll next. Who knew Atwood was such a media whore?

Tony Robinson

Robert Mueller

Mueller. He seemed addled and not impressive during the hearing,

John McCain. He had such potential to lead the Republicans in a better direction, but he ended up being a war-mongering partisan.

John Edwards . Truly disappointed.

Miss Dunaway

Please stop throwing salads and just retire.

Nero

Susan Sarandon

My parents.

I could have looked past the John Edwards affair, even though it was a sleazy thing to do to his family. But when I read that he had crouched in a men's room stall in the hotel, hiding from the paparazzi, I was done. What a fucking wimp.

Me. I always tell myself I’ll start a project “tomorrow” and eventually an entire year goes by with zero progress.

Jesus Christ

Megan Markle

Jussie!

Obama. I have a college friend who's a software millionaire. Knows the political elite. He said Obama didn't just talk the talk the talk, he walked the walk. One year after he was elected? Just another wall street flunkie. Hillary was a craven bitch from the get go, but obama had me duped.

Moderate Republicans.

For a long time I thought they were people of integrity who were just on the wrong side of things . Now I see them as toads, liars, and hypocrites.

Especially Maine's own Cruella de Vil, Susan Collins.

Thanks you R36 for exposing that non-patriot Obama as the bad American that he was unlike the good president Trump who is the true patriot and a friend of the homosexualists on this site that is good for America. You are to be commended for your good American patriotism and your dislike of the president Obama. Thanks you again!

The Clintons

John Edwards

Susan Sarandon

Michael Moore

I'm sure I could think of more, but the general theme is doubtless the same: liberals who either turned out to be Wall Street whores and/or just plain nuts.

John Edwards. I had such high hopes for him. I adored him. And then he fucked it all up. Although, I still think he would have been a great POTUS. He didn't do anything lots of them have done. He just got caught.

Was this just a stealth Repug thread all along?

Now that shit is getting real for Trump, I'm seeing a lot of "Obama was awful and Hillary is evil" all over social media, even though neither are politicians or hold office. Sketchy.

Can't speak for the others, but for myself, I can only be disappointed by fake liberals because I have no expectations of conservatives (except that they're awful).

I think some of you have unrealistic expectations. Obama was the dream President.

I can't name any Repugs because I never bought any of their shit. Same thing for Bernie Sanders.

The Human Rights Campaign

Sheryl Sandberg

R45, please explain.

I'm with you, R45. I cannot figure out what specific causes they finance now, besides a gala dinner honoring politicians and celebrities rather than gay or lesbian individuals who contribute through their own lives and careers greater acceptance of gays and lesbians and an end to discrimination against us in employment and housing.

Turned off by the HRC, when they wanted to honor Chelsea Clinton. She is no doubt an intelligent, young woman, but why honor her?

Honor our own. Visibility is more important than allies.

I was very fond of Bernie Sanders in the beginning. But little by little he showed that he's pretty much a lunatic and he put me off my feed.

Tony Blair was really a disappointment. I was blind sided by his total and complete capitulation to Bush about Iraq, and then after he left office, he became a very well paid lobbyist for Middle Eastern interests. Pig.

Obama didn't let me down - shit, he had the economy in freefall and these Republican assholes who wouldn't let anything get passed JUST BECAUSE he was a Democrat. Mitch McConnell stated that as fact.

Obama

Bill Clinton

Emmanuel Macron

Chuck Schumer

PS. I never buy Wiener's shit as I always thought he looks like a Beavis & Butthead creep.

Ryan Murphy's

Jesse Jackson

Margaret Cho

Taylor Swift.

Miss Warwick

Carol Channing

John Edwards owns this thread! Finally a charismatic Democrat who was a 1st term senator from NC and he pulls that shit. Now we have 2 Rethuglican Senators up Trump's ass.

Obama was obviously a craven Wall Street flunkie from the start. I was a Hillary supporter THEN and I'm a Hillary supporter NOW.

I never bought Repug shit either, but my dream President would have let the banks fails.

Obama owns this thread and because of this we have the vilest president in the White House now.

Obama upended everything in 2008. He wasted 2 years of the Democrat's super majority. He didn't campaign hard enough for the Obamacare as people didn't understand shit about it and hated it back then. And you can see now when people comprehended it more, they embraced the Obamacare wholeheartedly. Intelligence people had been warning him about the Russian meddling with the 2016 election for some time, and he did almost nothing to stomp it out because he wanted to stay above politics, and didn't want to favor his own party in the election. Well he was stupid and weak then since it was not about the Democrat Party only, it's about the whole country under attack by a foreign enemy.

He was a weak-willed, wrong-headed president who helped destroyed the Democrat Party. And even now he and his wife still use those stupid "veiled" shades against Trump when he could have come out swinging this disgusting president with full force already. Go count your hundreds of millions of dollars and stay away, both of you.

M. Night Shyamalan

Terrence Malick

Roseanne. She really had me fooled.

Howard Dean is another Democrat that had amazing potential to have a great presidency but instead he tucked his tail between his legs and skulked off when the media bullied him for his yee haw moment. Another disappointment is that he has since become just another shit bag lobbyist in Washington.

He was a Democrat in Name Only R67. He could have still won after Wisconsin but he folded.

Prince Harry.

The ShamWow guy!

I second, Michael Moore!

He really lost the plot with his AOC fan girl antics. We need to lower the age of president, so she can run. Talk about being blinded by a beautiful woman!

It was such a typical and pathetic midlife crisis moment. He tries, but he puts people on pedestals and like Bernie can only reapeat his own talking points

The Kennedys.

I bought the whole story from 1960 on. All of it.

I even bought Teddy's whole story about Chappaquiddick, including the neck brace. (Although, I admit that I did have a brief questioning moment when during his speech, he said he wondered if there really was a curse on his family, because, I thought, really, a young woman - not from his family - was DEAD.)

Yes, I bought the whole thing for years.

When I finally wised up, I was left with a deep, deep hostility to the whole bunch of them. Every last one.

I hate being lied to.

Rachel Maddow

So much ranting and raving, and little else.

I think the hate Obama is getting is a tad unfair. It was GWB and the R's who put our country into a shitty position. He had so much to deal with, those first two yearswith the economy. He and Michelle are a class act.

It's Racism that brought us Trump.

Obama couldn’t do more without being accused of being an “angry Black man”. He had a very narrow path to walk.

He couldn’t campaign harder for the ACA because that made it less popular.

As for the Russians, he expelled ~30 diplomats; closed two Russian safe houses/vacation homes; put sanctions on many oligarchs; and added that there would be more at a time and place of our choosing, some covert, and some not.

In the alternative, he risked being accused BY TRUMP of acting wrong,y, and you know Trump would have done so, if he could.

I think Obama did a good job. Just compare his action to his successor’s!

McCain would have been a disaster. He liked to “roll the dice”. Remember when he “suspended” his campaign, yet had nothing to add to the solution? Then he picked Sarah Palin, with a second choice of his friend Joe Lieberman. Disaster. We’d still be underwater with him or Romney. Republican philosophy was wrong for the time. Obama was what we needed. Hillary would have been good, too.

[quote]Obama couldn’t do more without being accused of being an “angry Black man”. He had a very narrow path to walk.

So what --- he was the president of the most powerful nation on earth? And now most of his accomplishments have been sadly extirpated. Great opportunity to change the world was so squandered.

Jimmy Carter

Anderson Cooper

Jennifer Garner

R76, you’re self contradictory.

As President, Obama wasn’t all powerful. I actually was quite pleased when he went to Congress a couple times to ask for something, instead of acting like a king.

You shouldn’t blame Trump because a queer stalker succeeded him and is reversing his accomplishments.

I meant:

You shouldn’t blame Obama because a queer stalker succeeded him and is reversing his accomplishments.

Thanks you to the patriot Americans who are above who know that Obama was the not patriot president who was bad for America not like the real patriot Donald Trump who is the one who saves America and makes it all safe for the world agains. Obama = bad president. Trump = good president. Thanks to all you good patriot American homosexualists who understand that.

Louis CK, Morrissey, Robert Smith, Aziz Ansari, Jerry Seinfeld

Omarosa. What happened to the one revelation a month?

Obama was the best we could get at the time. It's our own fault if we didn't find someone better in 2016. We had 8 years to find someone.

Her shit smelled so good in the beginning...... Aung San Suu Kyi.

She allowed herself to become a puppet of the military dictatorship, r86. The very thing she was supposedly fighting against she then became a part of.

Lots of anti-Obama freaks on this thread!

Aaron Schock. I thought he was a fine young Republican who was also against gay marriage.

Yeah, forget it right wing trumpsuckers, you can post all day, every day, your racist criminal fake potus is going to lose and the Democratic candidate is going to win.

Also, McConnell's going to lose his seat in Kentucky.

Rest up.

Sean Cody

R85

[quote] It's our own fault if we didn't find someone better in 2016. We had 8 years to find someone.

The Clintons were furious that Obama nudged out Hillary for the nomination in 2008. They were vengeful against politicians who supported Barack and during the next 8 years, Bill campaigned against those people who saw as guilty of that betrayal.

Also, supposedly the Clintons made it their business to eliminate others who might possibly be a candidate in 2016 - finding them other opportunities, etc.. They were taking no chances that Hillary would not get the nomination.

Didn't I read where Biden made some comment about the Clinton machine when asked why he didn't challenge her for the nomination?

It is no accident that only Hillary seemed to be the most likely 2016 candidate.

R6 - Spitzer was caught because during an FBI investigation of the Emperor's Club, an escort service, they found money transfers from Spitzer to their account. He was apparently using their services while NYS AG and Governor.

I also agree with Michael Moore. When I found out about how he really takes advantage of some of his subjects in his documentaries, that was incredibly disappointing.

I know I'll be hammered for this, but too many of the "diverse" Hollywood producers/directors. Is it just me or are people like Ryan Murphy and Lena Waithe overrated?

It's not just you, R94.

Rachel Dolezal.

Jared Fogle

Sharyl Sandberg

Eric Schneiderman (former Attorney General for NYS)

He was responsible for going after Trump University and Trump was found to be liable in the court case. He rooted out pension fraud/Medicaid fraud and forced banks into huge settlements for illegal foreclosure practices.

And then he turned out to be a violent drunk who got pleasure from emotionally and physically abusing women.

Woodrow Wilson

The Clintons

Obama and de Blasio

R88 --- Oh, dear!

Some people who voted for Obama in 2008 were expecting that he would press charges against some big banks who had ruined the economy and destroyed so many people's lives. But no, nobody went to jail and there were so many non-prosecution agreements granted to those perpetrators. Simply deplorable. If the Democrat Party can't accept an honest autopsy of their epic collapse in 2016, then there's no hope of them ever retaking the White House again.

R103 And there’s so much more as well!

r7, he's still selling

Al Gore. I never would have thought he'd cheat on his wife.

Good answer, R99. That was a shock.

R103 It's the Democratic Party, unless you happen to be a Fox News-viewing moron who refers to it as the "Democrat Party" Guess you outed yourself, right wing scumbag.

Really, well how many bankers has Trump sent to jail? None, that's how many.

Kevin Spacey

Daniel Liebeskind

Dan Savage

Marc Jacobs

Geraldo. I really believed there was something in the vault.

Dick Cheney

Gary Hart. The original John Edwards.

Ross Perot.

Then, Ross Perot.

Agree R103.

Obama was disappointing. And no, R88, am not "anti-Obama". Voted for him both times.

But do think an honest post-mortem is necessary as R103 suggests.

Perhaps, all the current candidates and tension in the Dem party is an attempt to grapple with the corruption and locks within the U.S. government?

Definitely sensing schisms: those that are pathological (many Repubs), those that want to return to The Way Things Were (Biden/Hiliary? - even a thread on DL wants to reinstate her!), and those that are wise enough to ascertain that Some Things Really Need To Change to work for The States....and even the planet.

Feel instinctively, the coming election is a big deal.

James Franco. I thought he was cool and edgy 5-8 years ago, and he turned out to be a straight, gay baiting poser all along.

My partner/husbands.... never again!

However deeply you bought into Obama it couldn't be this embarrassing.

"I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear." -- Halle Berry

Michael Avenatti. Big time.

John Edwards-I believed he was the real deal; couldn't understand how he could do that to his dying wife or get his friend to claim the child was his and not John's. What a POS. Clinton- couldn't imagine one so intelligent would be so stupid and risk so much. Still amazing ! OJ - was so affable and seemed to be one who enjoyed his fame, fans, and the good life . Didn't suspect he was an abuser and murderer.

Jason Bateman. I thought he was awesome in Arrested Development. He was born exactly a day after me. I saw him in other stuff. But when I saw the ‘bloopers’ for the movie “Paul”, he was super cringe! I think Simon included it as payback. There was no other reason to show it. Jason comes off like a total dick!

Betty White

Lord Snowdon

Anderson Cooper

Robert Wagner

Janet Reno , really let me down over the Whole Elian Gonzalez situation .

Mick and Keith. They orchestrated Brian’s death. Pete Townshend knows the truth.