Seinfeld is a dick

Always been a rich jerk. Can't stand him.

Has there ever been a stand-up comedian who became massively successful who wasn't hateful?

Bob Newhart maybe?

You need to cultivate a sense of humor, OP.

Otherwise, you'll never survive.

He was a jerk before he became rich.

Although he is unloved on Datalounge, Chris Rock is still one of the funniest men ever. Brilliant when he was a young fighter of a comic. He became a big jerk too - but only to the ladies.

I always thought he was gay until he started dating that young girl (and then got married).

Most of the comedians seem to visibly dislike him, the more they know him the more they rag on him. And it doesn't seem to come from a place of love.

It's difficult to rip off recipes in terms of intellectual property. You basically have to copy the recipes word-for-word for the other chef to have any kind of legal case.

It sucks to be that other woman, but a recipe book written by a minor celebrity will always do better than one by a total no-name.

In the Bill Maher episode, he and Maher talk about how they used to joke about becoming a comedy duo called, "Smug and arrogant." His smugness it part of comedy persona. Having said that, for me, the best part of the show is the cars. Some of the conversations are interesting and some are not. He and Alec Baldwin have great chemistry. Baldwin talks about longing to be a musical conductor. Seinfeld responded by telling Baldwin that he had a gayness that periodically shines through. Which was funny because its so true. There's a flaming queen that periodically peaks out of Baldwin. Seinfeld loves Margaret Cho and Eddie Murphy. Those two episodes are really good.

I've never liked him and haven't seen a single episode of his show.

Yes, I hated how mean Seinfeld was to Dana Carvey. Carvey’s not really my kind of humor, but he seems like a warm, gentle guy. Seinfeld totally bullied him.

He's always been a smug asshole.

Wasn't he fired from Benson? I mean, how do you get fired from Benson???

She did r9, she ripped the recipes off verbatim and the ones she made any minor changes to became failures. There was a whole article about this bitch which seems to have mysteriously disappeared. She's a cooze and so is he. Their kids will probably be psychopaths.

He is a dick, but I have to admit he's aged well and looks great for 65. I watched some episodes this week on a huge hi-def tv, and he doesn't have nearly the wrinkles some of the other guests have. He doesn't look augmented, either.

I guess if I was that rich, I'd look great at 65, too.

Jerry has a sexy lil ASS in reruns.

He looked like a fetus until he was 40 so of course he looks great at 65.

I grew up in the 90's and used to love his show. I've seen every episode multiple times (because it was in reruns for years). Now I look back and can't believe I used to love that stupid shit. It is so dated now and Seinfeld really is not funny at all.

Imagine if an adult male celebrity today was dating a high schooler like he did back in the '90s. So gross and creepy. The vast majority of comedians seem like deeply fucked up people.

He's unfuckable and always has been. His eyes are too close together.

His eyes and ASS don't have to meet. I would fuck 1995 Seinfeld.

Honey, you just go right ahead and [italic]do[/italic] that if that's what tickles your pickle. I sure as hell won't get in your way.

I never would have guessed that Jerry Seinfeld would go bald.

He's worth almost a billion dollars. That'll fuck with a guy.

He's homophobic like someone who is well acquainted with dicks other than his own.

I've never thought he was funny. Even his peers on his sitcom were more entertaining and memorable.

I've never thought he was funny. Even his peers on his sitcom were more entertaining and memorable.

Any doubt he'd be a long-forgotten 80's standup if not for that sitcom? He was a terrible actor.

And, HEY, OP - HOW, is this NEWS?!

Saw him in concert, Jay Leno was funnier. Jerry got lucky when he hooked up with Larry David.

I suspect there are many famous people who are as unpleasant and arrogant as he is. I remember one day he said "sometimes I look at my family and think 'In 65 years we're all gonna be dead, so what does anything matter?'" That is such a dark, unpleasant way of looking at things.

Anyway, I think many famous people are like him, it's just that he doesn't bother trying to hide it. Imagine having an unlimited supply of money. He can do anything in the world he wants. I assume that would make ME very happy, but maybe not.

He has an episode with Tina Fey where she obliterates him by pretending to know so little about him that she doesn't even realize he's Jewish. Asks him what he does for Christmas and he seems irritated amd hurt when he says, "I'm Jewish" and she just kind of nods.

The real cook (sorry, can't remember her name) had first submitted the book to the publisher who wound up publishing Mrs. Seinfeld's cookbook. I felt bad for the cook, who had spent years developing her recipes.

Jerry is very self-loathing. I interviewed him back the height of Seinfeld I was surprised but how much he hated himself and how clinically depressed he seemed. Fast forward to meeting his media horror money-grubbing wife and it's a marriage made in hell. I always smile when people say they have a successful marriage. It's a total folie a deux.

Oh and Jessica is the one who came up with the cars show idea after seeing the concept in the UK. That girl doesn't have an original thought to save herself. She's never come up with a recipe herself. Ever. Some woman whose first name is Sara is the true author of Jessica's books.

R34 here. One other thing. Jessica's charity, and I use the term loosely, is as plagiaristic is everything else in her life. They take credit for what other charities do. For example, they redistribute other charities collections and count them has their own. And early on, Jessica was counting every baby wipe as a separate donation. I kid you not. Someone did the math and didn't article about it which was pretty funny. Now Jessica's charity is all about making people jump through hoops to get things for their children. It's the worst of being a white savior while just being a person who uses vulnerable folks as a way to whitewash your own horrible personality.

Go over to her social media sometime and see how insecure she is just like her husband. They really are a perfect match in hell. Interesting their oldest and youngest child are really nice people. Their middle child is smug just like Jerry.

I forgot that Jessica dumped her first husband 3 weeks into the marriage to be with Jerry. Says everything about the two of them, really.

Their friendship with Gwyneth Paltrow says more.

Here are Howard Stern and Janis Ian singing "Jerry's Girl is 17".

Exactly R30. Seinfeld was funny precisely because of Larry David's sense of humor. Watching Curb Your Enthusiasm made me realize Larry David was the comedic brains behind Seinfeld.

Jerry is probably on the spectrum. He laughs off his fussiness and socially awkward tendencies but they probably drive him crazy behind the scenes.

I'd be interested to see him interact with this kids when the cameras aren't around. I would guess that he is highly critical and standoffish but I may be wrong.

[quote]Oh and Jessica is the one who came up with the cars show idea after seeing the concept in the UK.

That's funny, as Jerry's promo for this season is all about how other shows stole the idea from him.

I saw a clip on Twitter of him with Ricky Gervais in a Rolls.

Jerry is being very smug about what a great comedian he is and how he never laughs at lesser comics' bad jokes (because it leads them to think they are on the same level as he).

Ricky says he always laughs uproariously at lesser comics' bad jokes.

Jerry tells a bad joke.

Ricky laughs uproariously.

Ricky also called him out for what an absolute sociopath he is when he purposely scares the shit out of him driving a rickety old British "deathtrap" of a sports car down the highway. And he's right, that's a fucked up thing to do to someone.

Team Bobcat

I once saw a video of a performance of his from 1985. He wasn't funny AT ALL. It made me realize Larry David must have written most if not all of the episodes of Seinfeld. NOT Jerry Seinfeld.

Maybe he's seemingly unpleasant because he probably knows a lot of stuff the average viewer has no knowledge of. Things that would make you understand why he has the attitude he has. Show business is cutthroat and full of pathological jealousy and envy between performers, and the bigger you are the worse it is.

Jerry Seinfeld was successful at standup, but his jokes were of the "ever notice how you wind up with single socks after you wash them? Where do their partners go, anyway?" variety. In other words, he was more like Andy Rooney than Lenny Bruce.

He should thank God every day that Larry David and the supporting cast of Seinfeld were born. They were the reason for the sitcom's success.

I've been watching Cars/Coffee since it came to Netflix and I agree, he seems really arrogant and bullies some of his "guests." Some of them actively seem to dislike him and he also seems to enjoy making his guests uncomfortable or pointing out if they're nervous or if they've had recent foibles. His "we're rich we can do anything" in the latest Gervais episode was quite disgusting, to me. Ricky seemed very offput by him this time.

Seinfeld is like Leno in that he worked constantly, performing anywhere and everywhere. I read a GQ interview with him decades ago where he said that through most of the late 70s to mid 80s he was working 52 weeks a year.

When other people would give up and walk away Seinfeld kept going on stage. He's only famous because people knew who he was.

R47 I saw a clip of him from 1981 and he told the exact same jokes six years later on The Tonight Show with Carson. He latched onto a set of jokes and told them for years. Thank God the internet wasn't around back then or people would have become bored with him quickly.

Jerry Seinfeld is a very wealthy man so he is entitled to treat others as he sees fit. In my mind he’s a God and has provided me with years of entertainment. As far as I’m concerned he can kill someone in cold blood and i’d still be a fan.

[quote]As far as I’m concerned he can kill someone in cold blood and i’d still be a fan.

He killed my career.

Thanks for chiming in, deplorable at R50. Don't you think you should be doing something NASCAR-related or eating a fried baloney sandwich or something?

R50 I don’t like Seinfeld, but if he killed you in cold blood I’d be a fan.

The only Comedian with Cars episode that I've seen was the one with JLD because I figured they'd have SOME chemistry. There's something unfunny about two extremely rich comedians candidly talking to one another. Which episodes do you guys think are the most uncomfortable to watch due to Seinfeld's dickdom?

What a weird thing to say, R50. It's almost like Jerry has google alerts turned on about himself. It's odd that when guests talk about googling themselves, he's utterly silent, yet can quote obscure internet articles when the topic is him. He also seems to hate spending time with his kids. He literally cannot play a board game with them, which is one of the easiest increments of parent time. You're not forced to pretend, the kids are engaged yet not painfully retelling the entire plot of a movie for the 10th time. You can literally just lay on the floor and preform the task hungover if need be.

[quote] I forgot that Jessica dumped her first husband 3 weeks into the marriage to be with Jerry. Says everything about the two of them, really.

I don't really like her but Eric Nederlander who she dumped for Jerry has never sounded like a real picnic either. He had a widely publicized nasty divorce with the woman he married after Jessica.

I was listening to an interview with someone - can't remember who - who said before he got famous he lived with his girlfriend who paid all the rent. After he became successful he dumped her.

He tested the show out with a website first so I saw an early one with David Letterman before it went to Netflix. There were a couple more. I kept waiting for something to happen. Like maybe laughter, or something interesting, and I decided I didn't like him. I never saw a single episode of his show, Seinfeld. BTW I heard rumors that his wife, Jessica? cheats on him regularly. He & Gwyneth were neighbors in the Hamptons, and he is so filthy rich she cultivated him and his wife because she was looking for investors. I don't think they're that friendly. I also recall Gwyneth being really close to Beyonce and her husband, but that seemed to fade away once she divorced Chris Martin & Beyonce moved to L.A.

Being a dick is his shtick.

Granted I've only seen a few but every one I've seen the comic in the car with Jerry looks incredibly uncomfortable.

[quote]He literally cannot play a board game with them,

[quote]You can literally just lay on the floor

Massive eyeroll.

If I was that wealthy I wouldn’t play a board (bored) game with my children either. I’d have my assistants ship those snot factories off to the furthest boarding school.

Most of the car episodes I've seen are either boring or awkward. Including a most recent one with Zach Galifanakis. I agree that the series was funny because of Larry David and not JS.

R63 - absolutely. That’s evident while watching “Curb your Enthusiasm.”

The show is just an excuse for Jerry to write off all the money he spends putting those cars in a garage and maintaining them.

I know I've seen four or five episodes but even looking at the list I can only remember two.

JLD says repeatedly in one of her episodes that he has no interpersonal skills and barely acted like a human. And she's his friend.

R65 - ummmm Jerry is worth 800 million....I don’t think he has to worry about “write offs.”

I had a job interview back in the late 90s with a guy who I was told was a HUGE, HUGE Seinfeld fan, and was advised to, at least, watch a couple of episodes before I'd go. Which I did. It actually worked and of course i was asked what were my favorite episodes! Well long story short: I got the job...

But here's a video showing how out of touch he had become by the late 2ks. That campaign was absolutely ridiculed across the world, because it was SO BAD.

When he talks about his upbringing, Seinfeld always sounds like he was raised by cold, unfeeling psychopaths.

Not “serial killer” psychopaths, just people devoid of human emotions and empathy.

It explains a lot.

Jerry sounds Toe-tally IMPOSSIBLE!

I overheard a guy on the LIRR a out 15 years ago mention that he was at a party of gay men who were all wearing Lacoste shirts and the Jerry was there wearing a Lacoste and acting just as gay as all the others. Really!

Gay men usually don't beard with high-school girls and new brides still on their honeymoon, so I'm guessing he saw a Jerry lookalike (poor guy).

R72, sorry but if you're a closeted Gay man, who better than a young woman?

[quote] But here's a video showing how out of touch he had become by the late 2ks. That campaign was absolutely ridiculed across the world, because it was SO BAD.

"Out of touch" with what? Either you like his dry style of humor or you don't.

Anyone who has eyes and has seen Shoshana Lonstein knows that this man is not gay. You can argue that Jessica is a "beard type," but Shoshana? Come on.

He likes dark meat and was found in the rambles in Central Park with a Gentleman of Color!

I don't mind him and sometimes I enjoy him. Also he was sort of hot once. He comes in a line of post-borsht belt and I have an affection for that sort of thing.

[Quote] I also recall Gwyneth being really close to Beyonce and her husband, but that seemed to fade away once she divorced Chris Martin & Beyonce moved to L.A.

I'm sure the rumour about her sleeping with Jay had nothing to do with it.

Paltrow's V can't handle Jay Z's D. He fucked around but not with her.

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R79 [italic] interesting [/italic]

I think he's a sociopath. Minus the violent crimes.

I liked him just fine. I enjoyed his stand-ups before he had his show. His partnership with Larry David was key for the dynamic of the Seinfeld show and they complimented each other humor-wise. The only real negative thing I have toward him is when who dated Shoshana who was 18 and he was about 39. That was creepy.

[quote]they complimented each other humor-wise.

Oh, dear!

[quote]His partnership with Larry David was key for the dynamic of the Seinfeld show

As evidenced by the atrocity it became after David left.

Total bullshit, R85. The show remained highly popular the two years it remained on the air after Larry left. And as for as the finale, given all the hype surrounding it, not even the second coming of Christ, would have satisfied everyone.

The tone of the show changed when David left, but just because you didn't like the change means the show became an "atrocity." Bizarro Jerry, Festivus, and Yada, Yada are just a few of the classic episodes that were produced after David left.

Calm down Jerry, er I mean r86.

I’m one of the biggest fans of that show out there. I continued to watch and still continue with every season on DVD.

But even the most die-hard fans will admit, the show wasn’t itself after Larry left, in spite of some one-offs.

He’s a big Mets fan

His show was funny for about 3 seasons. At times it was brilliant but as soon as David stopped writing it went downhill fast. He is a lucky bastard he had a great supporting cast. I recall as Jerry became more famous he starting working out more and was more prone to showing off his physique. He is probably a real narcissist.

YES!! He's a huge dick! Thank you!

Just watch this video of him! It's like an unfunny, whiny man child with toddler behavior duped the world into thinking he's funny. Larry David was just majestic. Seinfeld is like the embodiment of someone with all the charisma of life drained out of them.

The guy that played Kramer was funnier on the show. Being an asshole doesn't make you some famous comedy wit.

I do agree with the other comment that he might be on the spectrum. Also, in the video near 1:45 he pings with his reply. Maybe that's why he's such an unhappy asshole. He's squashing down whatever gayness his unfeeling parents made him repress.

He didn't hug Kesha.

She went on to describe how she got over the snafu: “My idol in life, Bob Dylan, agreed to meet up with me because we were playing the same festival. And I was like so scared, because I had just got hug denied. So I was a little hug traumatized… And he just opened his beautiful arms and gave me the most wonderful, healing Bob Dylan hug that I had ever dreamt of, and I just could care less about anything else.” She added that he even gave her a hug after their conversation, too, making her twice-blessed by the folk legend.

I thought young Jerry was sexy when he wore tight jeans on the show. I think you could just see the outline of his big thick Jewish cock.

Glad he took himself off the air.

Unfunny. Unattractive. Closeted and angry.

Did anyone else have that feeling while watching the show? Thinking what in the world is everyone seeing to make this show so popular? Only a few characters really stood out. Jerry was not one.

I rewatched the Festivus episode a couple months ago and was surprised by how slow and awkward it was. Too many pauses for laughs, it really threw off the timing.

[quote] I rewatched the Festivus episode a couple months ago and was surprised by how slow and awkward it was. Too many pauses for laughs, it really threw off the timing.

I think some of that is how wired we've become for instant gratification in the internet age.

Jerry and Georges parents were classic too. He had such a talented roster of supporting players. The good episodes still hold up.

"At times it was brilliant but as soon as David stopped writing it went downhill fast."

Larry David was at the helm from the beginning, including the very disastrous seasons 1 and 2, the seasons where if it wasn't for Brandon Tartikoff, the show would have been cancelled. Your theory doesn't hold water.

She was 17 r83. He started dating her when she was in high school. He used to visit her in college. He’s an asshole and a pig.

That show was only funny because of the writing and all the actors who were in the ensemble. Literally everyone on that show was funnier and more talented than JS. Comedians in Cars is the most boring show I have ever seen, mainly due to his blah “I’m so much richer than you” personality.

Larry David left the show after season 7. The show became very good (but inconsistent) in season 3, became great in season 4, and became one of the greatest sitcoms ever because of seasons 5, 6, and some of 7.

Seasons 8 and 9 the show was running on fumes and the comedy took on a broader, more absurd quality.

Seasons 1 (like three episodes; I think it was a summer special) and 2 are some of the worst TV I've ever seen.

His sitcom was a once and done for me. I didn't hate it, but had no interest in seeing it again. I think Julia's "Veep" is far superior.

Veep was an adaptation of The Thick of It, which was a better show in many ways.

Didn't Seinfeld and Roseanne have some beef as well?

Roseanne said she used to resent Seinfeld and all the accolades it got, because it was a show about nothing. While she felt her show was superior and about something but never got any respect.

There was also an altercation with Julia Louis Dreyfuss, Roseanne and Tom that made the news. TV Guide did a story about it as well.

I tried to watch one of those "Comedians In Cars......" episodes today, the one with Eddie Murphy. I almost died of boredom within 10 minutes and had to turn it off.

Seinfeld got all indignant because Larry King didn't know whether the "Seinfeld" sitcom was cancelled or whether Jerry decided to stop it. Jerry is indignant that Larry does not know all the details of just how successful "Seinfeld" was. Larry also says, "Have I hurt you, Jerry?"

He's so weird about race too. He literally cannot let 10 minutes go by without mentioning it. He acts like a black roommate and a friendship with George Wallace make him able to immune to being racially dicky. He loves to mention how shitty black neighborhoods are. He's like Bill O'Reilly being amazed that the black people in Sylvia's Restaurants weren't screaming for motherfucking lemonade. He's just a douche and I bet he knows what an imposter he really is. He also mentions suicide or death more than Anthony Bourdain ever did.

Yes, Jerry poached a newlywed woman off of her husband.

I wish Seinfeld had had a Michael Richards freak out. Expose what he really is. Just something so smarmy about his punchable face.

"Jerry poached a newlywed woman off of her husband."

Unless the future Mrs. Seinfeld was severely brain damaged and unable to make choices on her own, she had a more active role in the dissolution of her first marriage than you and a lot other people want to believe.

I mean, she clearly went with Jerry for the money. He's not exactly Prince Charming.

Yeah, he had to know Richardson was so racially nuts. Weird Al never worked with him again. His weird "don't mess with my money" and then having him back on Curb your Enthusiasm was so weird.

That Jessica Seinfeld must be a terror...and that face! She looks like every other pudgy-faced girl on Long Island, and not made prettier by her nasty actions. Imagine meeting and dating a guy three WEEKS after returning from your fucking honeymoon! What a [italic]kurveh[/italic]!

She must have been raised by wolves.

r113 it was three weeks after the WEDDING, less than a week after returning from her honeymoon. Oh and for someone who thought her wedding to Nederlander was a mistake before the ceremony, she still managed to buy $100k worth of clothing on her honeymoon. Jessica is a pig.

[quote] Seinfeld got all indignant because Larry King didn't know whether the "Seinfeld" sitcom was cancelled or whether Jerry decided to stop it. Jerry is indignant that Larry does not know all the details of just how successful "Seinfeld" was. Larry also says, "Have I hurt you, Jerry?"

Larry King proudly did not write questions down to prep for interviews. He notoriously asked Anderson Cooper what his brother landed on, after jumping to his death. Datalounge loves to mock King’s ridiculousness.

It was a stupid question!

Larry also said to a weeping Barbara Eden, "you'll never get over your son killing himself in the car with a needle is his arm, will you?" I love Larry King.

Seinfeld got too rich and famous for nothing. I bet Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy hate him. They're insulated privileged guys too, but they have ironic senses of humor about their own douchiness. And they're light years more talented than Jerry.

[quote]Datalounge loves to mock King’s ridiculousness.

I’d love for Larry King to make an appearance here. I don’t have the skill.

You got into writing jokes and your brother Jake make millions selling health and fitness equipment. Will you two ever make a movie together; you writing and Jake acting?

[quote] Larry King proudly did not write questions down to prep for interviews. He notoriously asked Anderson Cooper what his brother landed on, after jumping to his death. Datalounge loves to mock King’s ridiculousness.

Understood, I agree Larry King looked unprofessional.

[quote] I bet Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy hate him

I don't know about Chris Rock but Murphy clearly is very fond of Seinfeld. That much was obvious when Murphy did that Comedians In Cars episode. They both started out together at the same place, the same week, long ago.

Frankly, most of the BS being slung in this thread about Seinfeld is just made up crap and wishful thinking by a pack of deranged queens who want to think they actually know something about some celebrity's life.

I've watched a couple of his shows and hated them. Seinfeld is probably the most boring of them all and is not funny. He was just good at having lawyers and negotiating the residuals.

Not. Funny.

"Hiking With Kevin" (Nealon) -- based on the same concept -- is a far superior show!!

Werent there stories of him liking to suck dick in high school and college ?

[quote] Frankly, most of the BS being slung in this thread about Seinfeld is just made up crap and wishful thinking by a pack of deranged queens who want to think they actually know something about some celebrity's life.

The thread is ridiculous.

In the Cars episode with Bridget Everett she mentions being friends with _____ _______, but they cut the sound and place a black box over his mouth, then Jerry explains how he hates the guy and why the guy doesn't like Jerry's work. He said he does the silly voice because he's not funny and never made it big. I'm thinking Gilbert Gottfried?

he is very loathed in the comedy world, and beyond. wife is a joke.

R125 Gilbert does hate Jerry a lot. I don't remember why though.

It's Jerry Seinfeld behind the DDOS attack! Lol, I wouldn't put it past him with how he flipped out on Larry King.

Miss Jiminy Glick. He has a certain complex. And don't forget Bee Movie.

R129 I thought that was Alan Cumming at first!

The mystery comedian they blacked out is Bobcat Goldthwait.

The Cars episode with Michael Richards is like going to a funeral. What the hell possessed him to kill his career in such spectacular way?

R132 I used t think maybe he wanted to kill the Kramer character the way Paul Ruebens wanted to kill his Pee Wee character.

I remember when Richards was in Montreal for the Just For Laughs festival and some jackass in the audience shouted out, "Do Kramer!" If looks could kill, Richards would have destroyed the guy.

Everything Goldthwait says is true.

The mystery comedian they bleeped on the Netflix show is Bobcat, but Seinfeld does hate Gilbert, too, because Gilbert used to go on Howard Stern and do a dead-on Jerry Seinfeld impression.

There was a SNL sketch in the mid eighties where all the stand up comedians sounded just like Seinfeld, including a young Damon Wayans.

And here's a clip of that sketch.

If Jerry did his same schtick as a woman no one would give a fuck.

could never watch that corney tv show of his. how it was a hit is a huge mystery to me. fug ugh.

Americans are corny and like meanness.

I never quite understood the success of Seinfeld. Some episodes are funny but I never thought it was that great.

I never liked the show. I like, George Wallace, he was Jerry’s best man at Jerry’s wedding to Nederlander.

the TV Critics gave Seinfeld some kind of heritage award or lifetime achievement award and no one from the show could have been bothered to show up to accept it. On one hand, Jerry thinks awards are stupid so he wasn't being a hypocrite I guess. But on the other, just show up, say thanks to TV critics who helped bring attention to your show -- and then leave.

And don't come back.

he known as huge asshole.

I'm proud to announce that I've never seen a single episode of anything he's ever been on. I saw the clip of him on Larry King being all offended and have disliked him ever since.

The Larry King clip was after Seinfeld was off the air, obviously. So you couldn't have had much interest in one of the most unusual and disruptively funny sitcoms to ever be on television R145. What's to be proud of that you never watched? Seinfeld is always rated among the top 5 sitcoms in the history of television. Usually in the top 2. It was a uniquely great show.

[quote]Frankly, most of the BS being slung in this thread about Seinfeld is just made up crap and wishful thinking by a pack of deranged queens who want to think they actually know something about some celebrity's life.

So are you saying he never dated a high school girl when he was 40? He didn't poach another man's wife right after the wedding? He never went on talk shows and trashed the poor woman his thirsty pig wife plagiarized? He doesn't act like a smug, entitled jerk on Cars? All the many, many, MANY stories about him being an asshole (and not a single one about him being a nice guy) are "made up crap?"

So Jerry Seinfeld is an asshole. Big deal. There are a lot of assholes in Hollywood. There are a lot of assholes in politics, sports, business. You name it. There are assholes everywhere.

Except on DataLounge, where positively no one is an asshole, ever!!! The PC delicate hot house flowers like R147 would not tolerate it.

I loved Seinfeld (the show) but I just can't get over the Larry King interview. Seinfeld was/is such an arrogant, uptight ass. If I hate the real life person, it usually also ruins the character for me (hello Tom Cruise).

Weirdo Seinfeld apologist @ R148. Really? This is the hill you want to die on? WTF would you so vigorously defend an untalented jerk who got lucky?

He is like an ugly Tom Cruise. What kind of number did his parents do on him? I'd love to know.

The world is full of wealthy, untalented jerks, R150. Why you choose to zero in on Seinfeld when there are plenty more out there (including the current one in the White House) leads me to believe there is some mental illness at play here on your part.

[quote] Weirdo Seinfeld apologist @ [R148]. Really? This is the hill you want to die on? WTF would you so vigorously defend an untalented jerk who got lucky?

An “apologist” for someone whom you find to be unlikable? It’s not that serious.

[quote]The world is full of wealthy, untalented jerks

And we like to gossip about them.

Jerry is one of the jews I like.

I loved his show, but he seems like such a prissy little bitch on “Comedians in Cars.” I love a good curmudgeon (I adore Larry David.) But Jerry comes off whiny, controlling, and somehow dumb.

That clip with Larry King seemed jokey like he didn't take it too seriously.

[quote]I think some of that is how wired we've become for instant gratification in the internet age.

I don't see the same problem with other 1990s shows, though. You assumed I watched current shows and was programmed to get "instant gratification" because for some reason that's a big DL thing lately, to assume everyone you disagree with is some stupid young person who just can't understand the quality of decades past, but I actually watch old shows from the 1950s through 1990s and almost nothing new. In the last year I rewatched Frasier, Twin Peaks, X-Files, Simpsons, Freaks & Geeks, and a few episode of Friends and Fresh Prince here and there.

I genuinely cannot think of any examples of the slow pacing I saw in the "Festivus" episode, save some of the Married With Children episodes with huge pauses as the audience screamed like monkeys.

The pacing on Seinfeld was deliberate, and it does not wear well. It was meant to be awkward. It is, but not in a good way. It's not like an old Johnny Carson joke bombing and still being funny today, or Letterman's early awkward and hostile shtick. It's just boring.

R148 because he should be about as relevant at Andrew Dice Clay and yet, he's not. Something wrong in the universe. There are funnier comedians than him. Brian Regan is funnier and less annoying.

R157 It was hard to tell. Anyway, Clive Anderson thought he was joking around with the Bee Gees and they got up and left.

That's probably why they went to commercial. Make sure everything is alright.

Most of his guests are more talented than he is. He also seems depressed as hell. That Bobcat Goldwaite rant he went on was crazy. He literally started pouring sweat.

If for no other reason, I hate Seinfeld and his stupid show for inflicting the expression “Yada, yada” on an unsuspecting public

The Festivus episode was one of the lamest episodes the show ever did and is really only remembered because of the fictitious holiday.

The show's ninth season -- which includes this episode -- was bad, and even the episodes from that season that critics seem to love (like the Merv Griffin one) are simply not as good as anything that aired in seasons 4-7.

You’re right, r163. They became more cartoonish and the situations were [bold]completely[/bold] ridiculous as opposed to just ridiculous in the beginning of the show.

R152. I agree with you. Why hate on jerry.

He never was funny and his show was never funny, just weird. In the 1990s they ran out of funny things and had to substitute weirdness for humor. He has never been attractive.

His wife is reportedly a bitch on wheels, terrorizing the expensive private schools their kids go to, and the kids are reportedly holy terrors themselves. This is a family you want to stay far away from at all costs.

I’ll leave this here.

Larry David was the true creative force behind Seinfeld, as Curb Your Enthusiasm has shown us.

We had a big Jessica Seinfeld thread a few years ago with lots of anecdotes about what a horrible awful person she is. If you're not rich or famous, don't even think you're entitled to breathe the same air as her.

Ha, I looked it up. Bobcat Goldthwait said Jerry Seinfeld is "a spooky weird Scientologist who bangs underage girls."

Some people really love him though.

^ That's a good clip - describes Seinfeld's humor quite well, the good and the bad. Thanks R170.

Seinfeld hates himself. Remember when he said he was autistic? He is trying to figure out why he is such a prick.

BTW, to the poster above, his daughter and younger son are very sweet. His wife and older son are smug assholes.

Seinfeld has no dick.

I was at a press conference for a show he was promoting; I honestly forget what it was or maybe I just heard this story. Anyway, a reporter asked him a question during a conference that he would never ever ever answer on a red carpet and his rep would never put it through.

It wasn't invasive, just an odd question. He said in front of everyone are you seriously asking me that here? And people laughed.

I would have said: Yeah, b/c your reps won't forward the q to you and I'm doing my job. If you don't want to answer it then don't, but don't be a dick.

What was the question?

I'll try to find it.

It could make a difference.

I like his Car and Coffee show when they talk about their craft or older comedians they admired. I care very little about the cars.

He's a dick to wait staff. He was a dick to Jim Gaffigan and Dana Carvey, arguably the nicest guys in the business.

[quote] arguably the nicest guys in the business.

According to whom?

Details on his dickishness to Gaffigan and Carvey, please, R178.

He was dismissive and at times openly hostile to both Gaffigan and Carvey. It's like he can't understand someone truly nice. Then there is his contempt for the servers. If he's not a dickhead to their face, he has a snide remark when they leave the table, knowing they'll see that shit and probably have a roomful of friends and family with them as they watch it. He's a dick.

^^^ Gee, wouldn't it be horrible if some waiter or waitress somewhere did something disgusting to his food before serving it to him?

He claims he waited tables when he was starting out. I don't believe it.

[quote] He was dismissive and at times openly hostile to both Gaffigan and Carvey. It's like he can't understand someone truly nice. Then there is his contempt for the servers. If he's not a dickhead to their face, he has a snide remark when they leave the table, knowing they'll see that shit and probably have a roomful of friends and family with them as they watch it. He's a dick.

Seinfeld is a comedian. He's exclusively hanging out with other comedians whom he loves and admires. The conversations include jokes and teasing. Which is normal for old friends. Some of you are reading way too much into Seinfeld's dry humor. He and Carvey have been friends for long time. Seinfeld heaped praise on him. They had a blast together. He and Gaffigan also had a blast with each other. Are you watching and expecting Seinfeld to not tease his old friends or not use the dry humor for which he is famous? He also jokes with the waitstaff and apparently leaves very generous tips. I doubt that they are mortally wounded by his humor. You take his comment way way to seriously.

Hi Jerry!

I think we have a lot of very insanely jealous bitches here.

Of all the stories I've heard about assholes in Hollywood, Jerry Seinfeld does not appear on anyone's list. Even Howard Stern, who during his prime, would go after or trash anybody for a laugh, has always respected Jerry Seinfeld. And need I remind everyone that despite what happened, Jerry stood by Michael Richards and did not cut and run because it would have been much more convenient and expedient for Seinfeld.

Yes, R186, Howard Stern NEVER made fun of Jerry Seinfeld!

Read my post, R187: it said "go after or trash." Making fun of someone's schtick is not the same as go after them or trashing them.

Howard goofed on Jerry; he trashed the likes of Kathy Lee Gifford and Rick Dees.

Jerry is a self-hating person who relied on (stole from) the talents of others to get where he is married to a a self-hating person who relied on (stole from) the talents of others to get where she is . Nothing shocking there. They deserve one another. Meanwhile someone like Larry Miller who is far more talented (as is his wife) has had to fight for a career. Thus is Hollywood and NYC.

You probably know this, r189, but:

Larry Miller auditioned at Jerry’s urging for the role of George. By everyone’s accounts, he was not a good fit.

I remember the Letterman interview where he savaged the woman his wife stole the cookbook from. Called her mental heath into question and was just super nasty. He went on and on about how she has three names, so she must be a psycho (this is especially rich because Jessica Seinfeld changed her first name as an adult. Jessica is not what her parents named her).. It was inappropriate for him to use his fame to disparage a woman who had a legit gripe against his wife and he went way over the line with the stuff he said about her. The cookbook writer lost the legal battle. It was plausible that the two women came up with the idea of hiding veggies in other food independently, but some of the recipes were exactly the same. And the real cookbook author submitted to Jessica’s publisher first. Even if Jessica hasn’t stolen it (and the probability that she did is about 99.9%), the author was still behaving reasonably to question it. My recollection is that Letterman was taken aback by it the tirade.

I think they are both trouble.

[quote]He went on and on about how she has three names, so she must be a psycho

Well, he IS right about that.

^^^ God knows THAT'S true, yeah . . .

His wife looks like a rat.

R190 yes I do know that about Miller. He's far more talented than Jason Alexander but Costanza had to be a schlub which Jason plays well. Miller is also a talented musician as well as a satirist.

He isn't as unbearably smug as Bill Maher and Barbara Thorndyke.

I'm Ann Coulter. Always glancing down and to the side. Like a liar or someone on the autism spectrum.

R191 What is Jessica Seinfeld's real name? Also, who changes their name to Jessica?

R198 She was born Nina Danielle Sklar according to Wikipedia.

A textbook Jewish stereotype.

Saw him once on Madison Ave. Smug and puffy.

He had the puffy shirt on?!

I thought he hated it.

He really does look puffy faced. Like he's getting fillers. I also can't get over how much he looks like Gilbert Gottfried. The people at Netflix must hate him because the pic they use for his show has him braying open mouthed and I ALWAYS think, holy shit, they gave Gilbert his own special. Nope, just Jerry.

Jerry and Gilbert hate each other

Nina Danielle is a pretty name.

I think Jerry hates Gilbert but Gilbert doesn't have any sort of personal animosity against Jerry; he just thinks Jerry's a hack.

The 2017 documentary GILBERT really showed how different Gilbert is from his stage persona and how decent he is as a human being. Could be contributing factors to Seinfeld's hate!

Gilbert does a scaaaathing impersonation of Jerry. It's worth seeking out.

Jerry is a hack.

“Seinfeld” had its classic episodes.... thanks to Larry David.

Boring show but VEEP is really good.

R191, that reminds me of how Lance Armstrong trashed his former friends who outed him as a steroid user. He attempted to destroy them, publicly called them liars, etc. And we all know how that turned out. Like Seinfeld, he's just a dick.

Never liked him or his show. I always thought the set was cheap and the show unfunny.

a few moments on Seinfeld were funny, but the scene killer every single time for me was Kramer, who came flying into a room, arms flailing about; it made no sense why Jerry would tolerate him.

One thing about the Seinfeld show that I found exceptional was how they cast all the small parts and bit players. They always seemed to find just the perfect actor for the character.

Of the two sitcom Kramers of note, who’d have thought the less racist of the two would be the blond girl from [italic]Punky Brewster[/italic]?

He has a crush on Goop. His wife is a piece of work.

There should have been more backlash for him dating somebody still in high school but he was the NBC crown jewel back then.

[quote] There should have been more backlash for him dating somebody still in high school but he was the NBC crown jewel back then.

A mantle he picked up from Bill Cosby. Let’s hope that’s ALL he picked up.

I agree with op.

R212 he didn't used to be like that but like with most sitcoms, he became a caricature of himself and people wanted the Loony Toons Kramer instead of the weirdo Kramer.

I still like the Festivus episode. Jerry Stiller made me laugh on Seinfeld and as Arthur on King of Queens.

He's ugly as fuck, too.

That’s why he became a comedian and not an underwear model.

He's not funny, either.

Neither are Bob Saget or David Schwimmer, and look how long their shows were on.

He was definitely the weakest link in the Seinfeld ensemble...

In his defense, it must be galling to know that Julia L-D starred in two masterpiece shows, and the actual genius behind Seinfeld was showrunner on two masterpiece shows, and despite having his name on the first of these, Jerry has produced really nothing of note since.

I saw the Seinfeld episode this week where they wait fruitlessly for a table in a Chinese restaurant, and I noticed that Larry David was Executive Producer AND some title that meant he was also head of the writers' room. In my experience, those two things = showrunner. The episode itself was listed as written by the two of them.

Was he high when he decided to do Bee Movie??

Seinfeld is the definition of "self-hating."

^^oh, and if you want to have a little fun and have an extra two minutes, go to his wife's Instagram and point out that her charity is just a way for her to acid-wash her golddigging ways. She will come at you with both barrels in that "thou doth protest too much" way.

[quote]how do you get fired from Benson???

It happens.