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by Anonymousreply 580February 27, 2020 12:19 PM

Oopsie

by Anonymousreply 1July 8, 2019 2:26 PM

That's horrible. Why would anybody dangle a kid out a window?

by Anonymousreply 2July 8, 2019 2:27 PM

Bringing a 19-month-old on a cruise, really? Trash.

by Anonymousreply 3July 8, 2019 2:27 PM

Hmmmm...grandfather next to a cruise ship window.

by Anonymousreply 4July 8, 2019 2:28 PM

Don't give him any sort of role to carry out at the funeral -

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by Anonymousreply 5July 8, 2019 2:29 PM

Y'all are just ignorant!

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by Anonymousreply 7July 8, 2019 2:30 PM

Down Syndrome child, perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 8July 8, 2019 2:31 PM

R6 1st thing that came to my mind. It doesn't appear that Gramps was dangling her out like that however,, but rather she fell thru?!

by Anonymousreply 9July 8, 2019 2:32 PM

It reads like he was holding her and slipped near the open window, but it's kind of vague.

by Anonymousreply 10July 8, 2019 2:36 PM

[quote] slipped near the open window

That never ends well.

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by Anonymousreply 11July 8, 2019 2:38 PM

Imagine the conversations this year at Thanksgiving and Christmas...

by Anonymousreply 12July 8, 2019 2:39 PM

r10 Yeah, he probably wanted the child to look out the window, and then slipped from the weight.

by Anonymousreply 13July 8, 2019 2:40 PM

The article says it was a pool deck, maybe there was a puddle of something.

by Anonymousreply 14July 8, 2019 2:44 PM

They weren’t even on a good part of the boat if the graphic is correct.

by Anonymousreply 15July 8, 2019 2:49 PM

Well, at least she saw the sights.

A short yet full life.

by Anonymousreply 16July 8, 2019 2:54 PM

I'd expect this from a Carnival cruise, but not Royal Caribbean!

by Anonymousreply 17July 8, 2019 2:54 PM

"But Grandaddy, I can't flyyyy."

by Anonymousreply 18July 8, 2019 2:56 PM

Wow. Can you imagine how horrible Gramps feels??

by Anonymousreply 19July 8, 2019 3:00 PM

Toddlers can be quite squirmy and can lunge unpredictably if they want to grab something or go somewhere.

I feel bad for the grandfather.

by Anonymousreply 20July 8, 2019 3:04 PM

That grandfather is toast to his family. He might as well just end it from the guilt.

by Anonymousreply 21July 8, 2019 3:11 PM

grandpa non grata

by Anonymousreply 22July 8, 2019 3:22 PM

I'm king of the wooooooooorrrr.....

by Anonymousreply 23July 8, 2019 3:23 PM

Why would anyone bring a child that young on a cruise?

by Anonymousreply 24July 8, 2019 3:24 PM

The parents will probably sue RC for having an open window on a ship.

by Anonymousreply 25July 8, 2019 3:26 PM

The only honorable thing for the grandfather to do at this point is commit suicide.

by Anonymousreply 26July 8, 2019 3:39 PM

Don't worry about grandpa. He has other grandchildren, so the loss of this one is not such a big deal.

by Anonymousreply 27July 8, 2019 3:41 PM

Indiana?

Dead deplorables. Am I supposed to give a shit?

by Anonymousreply 28July 8, 2019 3:43 PM

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

by Anonymousreply 29July 8, 2019 4:13 PM

Grandfathers can be menaces.

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by Anonymousreply 30July 8, 2019 4:18 PM

At r5, did they break Baby Jeebus?

by Anonymousreply 31July 8, 2019 4:30 PM

"Free Fallin" by Tom Petty?

by Anonymousreply 32July 8, 2019 4:34 PM

Did the kid die from the impact or did she drown? Why didn't he jump after her? The ship was docked in Puerto Rico.

by Anonymousreply 33July 8, 2019 4:44 PM

Water transportation sucks ass!!!!

Trust me, I know.

Fuck all those brochures!!!

by Anonymousreply 34July 8, 2019 4:44 PM

R33, you expected Grandpoppy to do a swan dive after her like the muthafucka was on Baywatch or something?

by Anonymousreply 35July 8, 2019 4:48 PM

Sad all around.

by Anonymousreply 36July 8, 2019 4:51 PM

I gather the guilt is probably going to kill him. Cannot imagine how the relationship with his daughter (the child's mother) is going to be, even if, obviously, it wasn`t on purpose

by Anonymousreply 37July 8, 2019 5:01 PM

And yet they will probably try to sue the cruise line.

by Anonymousreply 38July 8, 2019 5:03 PM

Maybe gramps is already senile? How old is he? Else the guilt would be too much for him.

by Anonymousreply 39July 8, 2019 5:06 PM

That's weird. I travelled on several cruise ships, not as prestigious as Royal Caribbean, pretty cheap cruises in Europe, and those are not completely safe, of course, but pretty safe for children. Small and high windows, always closed. What did he do?

by Anonymousreply 40July 8, 2019 5:09 PM

R35 Depending on how high it was, yes, I would jump after my kid.

by Anonymousreply 41July 8, 2019 5:10 PM

The kid fell from deck 11 all the way down to a concrete dock. Good luck surviving the jump. The kid had to have smashed like a watermelon.

by Anonymousreply 42July 8, 2019 5:12 PM

On the Next Maury Show .......

Crazy Grandparents on Meth & the Dangerous Consequences

by Anonymousreply 43July 8, 2019 5:13 PM

I still had a worse time on *my* cruise

by Anonymousreply 44July 8, 2019 5:17 PM

Michael Jackson has left the chat.

Mrs. Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder, CO has joined the chat.

by Anonymousreply 45July 8, 2019 5:19 PM

Some kids just have no luck. Remember Eric Clapton's son who ran straight out of an open skyscraper window?

by Anonymousreply 46July 8, 2019 5:21 PM

Maybe he can start a support group with the Memaw whose grandson shot himself with her gun.

by Anonymousreply 47July 8, 2019 5:22 PM

Luv ya, r44!

by Anonymousreply 48July 8, 2019 5:24 PM

Is there a Gofundme yet ?

by Anonymousreply 49July 8, 2019 5:26 PM

The kid's father is a POLICE OFFICER in SOUTH BEND, INDIANA!

Somewhere Pete Buttigieg is banging his forehead against a wall....

by Anonymousreply 50July 8, 2019 5:27 PM

Sad.

by Anonymousreply 51July 8, 2019 5:31 PM

Demon drink?

by Anonymousreply 52July 8, 2019 5:34 PM

[quote]And yet they will probably try to sue the cruise line.

WHAT? We can't get a free cruise out of this? I want to speak to a manager!

by Anonymousreply 53July 8, 2019 5:44 PM

WELL AT LEAST NO ONE WAS RAPED BY GOOFY.

by Anonymousreply 54July 8, 2019 5:45 PM

Royal Caribbean added a line item to their SeaPass account for Cordless Bungee Jump $99. They nickel and dime you for everything on these cruises!

by Anonymousreply 55July 8, 2019 6:02 PM

[quote]Depending on how high it was, yes, I would jump after my kid.

Do you mean because you would have wanted to kill yourself? If that's NOT what you mean, then you are a complete idiot.

by Anonymousreply 56July 8, 2019 6:26 PM

Since the father is white, he's in no danger of losing his job in Mayor Pete's South Bend.

by Anonymousreply 57July 8, 2019 6:42 PM

A few years ago a grandmother accidentally ran over her grandkid with an SVU. She was on Oprah with her son and daughter in law. I felt so sorry for her. Guilt was eating her alive.

by Anonymousreply 58July 8, 2019 7:05 PM

The most horrible "toddler slips out of adult's grasp" incident is still the one where the mother accidentally dropped her small child into a zoo exhibit filled with African painted dogs (they're like hyenas) and had to watch him get torn to shreds.

If I was that mother I honestly would just kill myself rather than live with that memory.

by Anonymousreply 59July 8, 2019 7:11 PM

This is worse than that, R59. Remember those skits where David Letterman would drop a watermelon off the roof? That child is splattered all over that concrete, with an exploded skull and every bone in her body shattered. It will be a miracle if they get any remains at all.

The grandfather should be charged with reckless endangerment, although it is quite possible that a trauma like this could kill him.

by Anonymousreply 60July 8, 2019 7:29 PM

I still remember her last words....

"Splash!"

by Anonymousreply 61July 8, 2019 7:31 PM

[quote]A few years ago a grandmother accidentally ran over her grandkid with an SVU. She was on Oprah with her son and daughter in law. I felt so sorry for her. Guilt was eating her alive.

But what possible reason would a person like that have for going on national TV and talking about such a tragedy? Did she hope for some kind of catharsis, because she thought it might actually make her feel BETTER? Or was it just for the money?

by Anonymousreply 62July 8, 2019 7:36 PM

R59

I just read about that story. I am mad that mother wasnt arrested. Btw, why didnt she jump after him? Those dogs are pretty small so she had a chance to protect him.

by Anonymousreply 63July 8, 2019 7:40 PM

R59. Good to know...

by Anonymousreply 64July 8, 2019 7:43 PM

R45, id WW you but my ad blocked took away the buttons

by Anonymousreply 65July 8, 2019 7:43 PM

[quote] But what possible reason would a person like that have for going on national TV and talking about such a tragedy? Did she hope for some kind of catharsis, because she thought it might actually make her feel BETTER? Or was it just for the money?

I wonder about that too.

I can understand with some situations. Those ones where people are so preoccupied they leave their baby in the car and it dies.....that, I can see going out, talking to the press and warning people.

by Anonymousreply 66July 8, 2019 7:44 PM

I used to work at the Empire State Building, and we had a jumper who was obliterated when he hit the sidewalk. Our office was on 10th floor, and it sounded like a car bomb went off outside.

There was nothing left of him, just a pile of clothes. They had to use fire hoses to remove the remains from the sidewalk.

by Anonymousreply 67July 8, 2019 7:49 PM

[quote]A few years ago a grandmother accidentally ran over her grandkid with an SVU.

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by Anonymousreply 68July 8, 2019 7:49 PM

LO:, sorry, I obviously meant SUV.

by Anonymousreply 69July 8, 2019 7:52 PM

R67 reminded me of this

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by Anonymousreply 70July 8, 2019 8:00 PM

I know, r69, I’m just having some fun with ya.

All in good fun.

by Anonymousreply 71July 8, 2019 8:01 PM

R44 I just did a spit take

by Anonymousreply 72July 8, 2019 8:12 PM

r50 was he one of those paid leaves that cops get when they shoot black people? That would make this one wild story.

by Anonymousreply 73July 8, 2019 8:17 PM

R60 I have to disagree. You're talking about an instantaneous death vs. being mauled alive by a pack of wild animals. According to some reports, the African painted dogs disemboweled the kid (which is the normal way they would kill prey in the wild).

by Anonymousreply 74July 9, 2019 12:09 AM

From article:

[quote]The girl had a hard landing on the concrete of the Pan American dock in San Juan, and ...

From 150 feet? I would think so.

by Anonymousreply 75July 9, 2019 12:25 AM

"The girl had a hard landing on the concrete..."

Such a tasteful description considering "the girl" was a 19 month old toddler.

by Anonymousreply 76July 9, 2019 12:31 AM

During the 1950's my mother's family was stationed overseas, because my grandfather was in the military. At the time, the only transport available for families at the time large commercial vessels. My mother's younger twin brothers were 3 1/2 at the time. My mother told me, my grandmother invested in two body harnesses. And never slept.

by Anonymousreply 77July 9, 2019 12:39 AM

The other grandfather must be loving this.

by Anonymousreply 78July 9, 2019 12:51 AM

Just in case if you need a visual aid ...

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by Anonymousreply 79July 9, 2019 1:37 AM

[quote]The kid's father is a POLICE OFFICER in SOUTH BEND, INDIANA!

Pete has tweeted out his condolences and of course the Kamala nutjobs and the Bernie bros came after him.

by Anonymousreply 80July 9, 2019 1:39 AM

Unfortunately, there are no Royal Carabien cruses anywhere near Boulder, Co

by Anonymousreply 81July 9, 2019 1:46 AM

Nobody will ever pass anything to grandpa at holiday meals. He won’t even be allowed near the kids table.

by Anonymousreply 82July 9, 2019 2:38 AM

Bad Grandpa!

by Anonymousreply 83July 9, 2019 3:23 AM

[quote]The most horrible "toddler slips out of adult's grasp" incident is still the one where the mother accidentally dropped her small child into a zoo exhibit filled with African painted dogs (they're like hyenas) and had to watch him get torn to shreds. If I was that mother I honestly would just kill myself rather than live with that memory.

That horrible mother took NO responsibility, and instead went on to sue the zoo, and got an undisclosed settlement.

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by Anonymousreply 84July 9, 2019 3:35 AM

I doubt he’ll ever be allowed near the booger sucker.

*sotto*not the booger sucker!?!?!?

Yes! The. Booger. Sucker. !

by Anonymousreply 85July 9, 2019 3:53 AM

OMG I'd off myself if I did that.

by Anonymousreply 86July 9, 2019 4:12 AM

I don't recall anything like this happening on Love Boat.

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by Anonymousreply 87July 9, 2019 4:21 AM

Partial refund?

by Anonymousreply 88July 9, 2019 4:22 AM

[quote]r87 I don't recall anything like this happening on Love Boat.

I don't even want to THINK how many abortions Julie McCoy got over the years when they'd have shore days in Mexico - -

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by Anonymousreply 89July 9, 2019 4:29 AM

The child didn't fling herself out of his arms. Grandpa had propped her butt up on the open window sill, and lost his grip.

by Anonymousreply 90July 9, 2019 4:35 AM

[quote]I don't recall anything like this happening on Love Boat

And more's the pity. Think of how much better the show might have been

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by Anonymousreply 91July 9, 2019 5:01 AM

I think Grandpa was practicing for the Bean Bag Toss contest, and got a little carried away. Oops!

by Anonymousreply 92July 9, 2019 5:18 AM

Never fprget Harambe. He was just trying to help.

by Anonymousreply 93July 9, 2019 5:30 AM

Hey, they told me to take care of the dirty diaper so I took care of it.

by Anonymousreply 94July 9, 2019 5:43 AM

^The diaper was all he was left with, in his hands.

by Anonymousreply 95July 9, 2019 5:47 AM

Why in the world would you take a toddler on a cruise? That is just bizarre to me.

by Anonymousreply 96July 9, 2019 5:52 AM

And why would you chose to 'dangle' one out of an open window (as per original reporting)?

by Anonymousreply 97July 9, 2019 6:06 AM

As a serious person, my only interest is - was he holding the kid out the window or was he inside, and slipped and propelled the tot out the window. (BLESS HER HEART AND MY HEART BREAKS EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE) In addition every happening on a cruise that makes press are some frat boys, couples from Utah, other lower MC people taking their first vacay. Who cares?

by Anonymousreply 98July 9, 2019 6:08 AM

Was there a port charge to clean the dock?

by Anonymousreply 99July 9, 2019 6:16 AM

Hopefully, they will be able to sue San Juan for not making a 150 feet drop onto the dock more safe.

by Anonymousreply 100July 9, 2019 6:34 AM

Something about being on boats and loss of common sense? My nation has a fleet of car ferries plying the mainland/island routes. A friend doing PR for them, back in the day, talked of several tragic incidents which he helped to smooth over. They generally involved babies or toddlers being 'pretend' dangled or held up for 'better views' being dropped over the rear viewing decks onto the car decks below.

by Anonymousreply 101July 9, 2019 6:43 AM

One of my first thoughts is that a certain kind of trash family will get over this well enough by popping out another kid. You lose one to the pitt bull, one, goes out the window, but there are still 6 others. Or is it 7? Honey to we have 6 kids left, or 7?

by Anonymousreply 102July 9, 2019 7:07 AM

Drowned Syndrome more likely, R4. Amirite?

by Anonymousreply 103July 9, 2019 7:14 AM

R77, was that “at the time”?

by Anonymousreply 104July 9, 2019 12:04 PM

R98, you type frau.

by Anonymousreply 105July 9, 2019 12:04 PM

[quote]And why would you chose to 'dangle' one out of an open window (as per original reporting)?

Oh, honey, you have no idea.

by Anonymousreply 106July 9, 2019 12:05 PM

[quote]Was there a port charge to clean the dock?

We’ve seen worse.

by Anonymousreply 107July 9, 2019 12:08 PM

This is why I will never go on a cruise!

by Anonymousreply 108July 9, 2019 12:12 PM

Was the window OPEN or did the glass give out? I don't understand.

by Anonymousreply 109July 9, 2019 12:50 PM

[quote]—Broke frau who could never afford a cruise anyway

Why are you on a gay man’s board?

by Anonymousreply 110July 9, 2019 12:56 PM

R110 doesn’t understand satire

by Anonymousreply 111July 9, 2019 12:57 PM

I’m surprised that the windows open at all. Sounds shady.

by Anonymousreply 112July 9, 2019 1:19 PM

The pool decks have sliding glass windows. The grandfather was negligent by holding the kid out the window. The family has hired an attorney and trying to get a cash grab off of grandpa’s stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 113July 9, 2019 1:25 PM

[quote]R110 doesn’t understand satire

My bad.

Hey, I can admit my mistakes.

by Anonymousreply 114July 9, 2019 1:27 PM

[quote]The family has hired an attorney and trying to get a cash grab off of grandpa’s stupidity.

There’s already precedent for them to win, thanks to the Zoo Mom who dropped her kid in the lion den and then won a settlement.

by Anonymousreply 115July 9, 2019 1:30 PM

Never been to the zoo. It sounds nice.

by Anonymousreply 116July 9, 2019 1:32 PM

I feel sorry for this little girl and her family, but I don't get how this is the company's fault. Dear parents, the safety of your children is still your responsibility. If you drop your child out of a window and let it hit the hard concrete floor, this is all your fault.

by Anonymousreply 117July 9, 2019 1:50 PM

yeah , no longer feel too bad, monetizing the accident already!

by Anonymousreply 118July 9, 2019 1:53 PM

Will this case be held in US courts? Other countries don’t tolerate frivolous lawsuits as much as we do.

by Anonymousreply 119July 9, 2019 1:56 PM

Probably R129. American company/citizen = US court = huge settlement (for something that was probably your own damn fault). Wonder if toddlers are still allowed on cruise ships in the future.

by Anonymousreply 120July 9, 2019 2:04 PM

God, I hope not! It would almost make them bearable, without the crotch droppings shrieking and running around. The entire ship is their daycare.

by Anonymousreply 121July 9, 2019 3:14 PM

[quote]Will this case be held in US courts?

Well, it happened in PR so whether mainland or not it'll be a US court.

by Anonymousreply 122July 9, 2019 3:20 PM

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by Anonymousreply 123July 9, 2019 3:33 PM

The glass is tinted. They changed the story for their cash grab and to avoid legal liability.

by Anonymousreply 124July 9, 2019 3:36 PM

[quote]Royal Caribbean and say it was negligent by not making clear there was no glass in the window

How the fuck do you do that? When the window is open does a big sign fall in its place that says, “Hey, Asshat, there’s an opening here! Don’t put your darling granddaughter on the ledge”?

by Anonymousreply 125July 9, 2019 3:43 PM

Judging from the photo at R123, having an open window like that is not safe, especially with small children onboard.

by Anonymousreply 126July 9, 2019 3:57 PM

The windows slide open sideways and it takes effort to open them. They are about chest high. It’s obvious when they are open. They open for air flow when it gets hot in that area or one side is up sometimes smoking ( or used to be) on some ships. People don’t fall off of cruise ships. They either jump, fall doing something stupid, or are dropped by the elderly.

by Anonymousreply 127July 9, 2019 4:02 PM

It's still his responsibility to not throw his granddaughter out of an open window. Some people are just too stupid to live and can't admit it was their own fault.

by Anonymousreply 128July 9, 2019 4:02 PM

"That horrible mother took NO responsibility, and instead went on to sue the zoo, and got an undisclosed settlement."

The horrible people are the ones like you who blamed the mom. She didn't do anything wrong, the zoo did. Why have a cage that little kids can get into? Why not make your zoo safer?

by Anonymousreply 129July 9, 2019 4:09 PM

Think they'll give grandpa any of the settlement money?

by Anonymousreply 130July 9, 2019 4:10 PM

"Will this case be held in US courts? Other countries don’t tolerate frivolous lawsuits as much as we do."

The Republicans who whine about "frivolous lawsuits" are always the first one to file a frivolous lawsuit. Trump has sued lots of people.

by Anonymousreply 131July 9, 2019 4:13 PM

[quote]The horrible people are the ones like you who blamed the mom. She didn't do anything wrong, the zoo did. Why have a cage that little kids can get into? Why not make your zoo safer?

Little kids can’t get into the “cage”. They have to be dropped in by a negligent mother.

And the DA was seriously considering filing criminal charges against the mother, but ultimately decided not to. So no, it wasn’t clear that she “didn’t do anything wrong.”

by Anonymousreply 132July 9, 2019 4:21 PM

He wasn't "dropped" in, dipshit.

by Anonymousreply 133July 9, 2019 4:24 PM

R129 fucking idiot is an obvious frau. How about not dangling the kid over the barrier so he can “get a better look?”

Stupid is as stupid does.

by Anonymousreply 134July 9, 2019 4:25 PM

I saw on the news that 24 people a year fall overboard on cruise ships. They're literally deathtraps.

by Anonymousreply 135July 9, 2019 4:27 PM

r134 = Republican who whines about frivolous lawsuit but probably supports that little MAGA asshole who sued the Washington Post. You're probably a frau, most of them are Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 136July 9, 2019 4:27 PM

[quote]He wasn't "dropped" in, dipshit.

I live in Pittsburgh where the zoo incident happened. Most people here thought the mother was lucky not to have been charged.

The public sentiment turned against her after her obvious money grab of suing the zoo for something that was clearly her fault.

by Anonymousreply 137July 9, 2019 4:37 PM

I don’t think it’s the cruise’s fault but of course they will just quickly settle it.

by Anonymousreply 138July 9, 2019 4:38 PM

"Most people here thought the mother was lucky not to have been charged."

I'm from Pittsburgh and I don't know anyone who thinks she should have been charged. If the zoo wasn't at fault, they wouldn't have given her money.

by Anonymousreply 139July 9, 2019 4:40 PM

What happened to the dogs that ate the baby in Pittsburg?

by Anonymousreply 140July 9, 2019 4:45 PM

Sometimes there is just nothing you can do to protect idiots from hurting others or themselves. A guy at our zoo wanted to swim with the ice bears....

by Anonymousreply 141July 9, 2019 4:51 PM

^^^ Case in point - the "running of the bulls" in Spain.

by Anonymousreply 142July 9, 2019 4:53 PM

^ sorry, polar bears

by Anonymousreply 143July 9, 2019 4:54 PM

WHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!

by Anonymousreply 144July 9, 2019 4:56 PM

What is the point of making a thread about this? This is mere tragedy porn, wholly gratuitous.

by Anonymousreply 145July 9, 2019 4:58 PM

WAIT , JUST A MINUTE HERE...

WHEN DID PUERTO RICO START USING UNITED STATES COURTS ?

by Anonymousreply 146July 9, 2019 4:59 PM

r141. Right? Like this dude that got crushed by a roller coaster trying to get the shit he lost while riding?

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by Anonymousreply 147July 9, 2019 4:59 PM

Melania and I need a vacay,

We're taking Barron on a Cruise !!!!

by Anonymousreply 148July 9, 2019 5:03 PM

R148 Good luck getting those long spindly legs and arms through an open window,

by Anonymousreply 149July 9, 2019 5:05 PM

[quote]What happened to the dogs that ate the baby in Pittsburg?

One of the eleven dogs was shot by a police officer at the time of the incident.

The exhibit was closed, and the other ten dogs were moved to other zoos throughout the country.

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by Anonymousreply 150July 9, 2019 5:11 PM

Is the grandfather cut or uncut?

by Anonymousreply 151July 9, 2019 5:13 PM

I broke this one. Y’all gonna have to make another baby.

by Anonymousreply 152July 9, 2019 5:15 PM

Grandpa was just doing his duty. Apparently the baby had love handles.

by Anonymousreply 153July 9, 2019 5:23 PM

[quote]Chloe loved to look out from windows and bang on the glass like she did at her older brother's ice hockey games

Oh. So she was one of THOSE.

Parents, please keep your kids in check. Teach them not to bang on, and destroy. others' property.

by Anonymousreply 154July 9, 2019 5:26 PM

r154, have you ever been to a hockey game? Compared to some of the behavior there, a little kid tapping some glass is pretty mild. And I seriously doubt this toddler was hitting the glass hard enough to "destroy" it

by Anonymousreply 155July 9, 2019 5:28 PM

She was careless R129. You don’t sit your kid on a ledge if they are squirmy.

by Anonymousreply 156July 9, 2019 5:30 PM

R155 true, but it shows the parents are the type who thing little Meghan’s actions are cute, oblivious to the annoyance of others

by Anonymousreply 157July 9, 2019 5:31 PM

I had assumed the child fell into the water, but apparently she hit the concrete. That grandfather is going to have a miserable life left ahead of him after this.

by Anonymousreply 158July 9, 2019 5:34 PM

I seriously doubt the people at a hockey game find a kid tapping on glass annoying compared to other things that happen at hockey games - idiots fighting, getting drunk, screaming, etc. You guys are confusing hockey games with symphony concerts.

by Anonymousreply 159July 9, 2019 5:34 PM

[quote]I saw on the news that 24 people a year fall overboard on cruise ships. They're literally deathtraps.

Only trans POC have it worse.

by Anonymousreply 160July 9, 2019 5:36 PM

Umm, they were pee wee hockey games, hon.

by Anonymousreply 161July 9, 2019 5:36 PM

R155 and r159 type frau.

by Anonymousreply 162July 9, 2019 5:37 PM

r160 I'm not EVEN going to TELL you all the ways you just LITERALLY committed genocide against trans women of color everywhere by that statement. Educate yourself! Pay me!

by Anonymousreply 163July 9, 2019 5:37 PM

I think I just fell head over heels for r163.

by Anonymousreply 164July 9, 2019 5:38 PM

Where in the story did it say the baby was trans? Was the grandpa transphobic?

by Anonymousreply 165July 9, 2019 5:39 PM

[quote] What is the point of making a thread about this? This is mere tragedy porn, wholly gratuitous.

Welcome to the internet. By the sound of it, you might not like it here.

by Anonymousreply 166July 9, 2019 5:40 PM

Her inquisitive spirit got the best of her.

by Anonymousreply 167July 9, 2019 5:40 PM

Curiosity killed the Chloe .

by Anonymousreply 168July 9, 2019 5:42 PM

"Umm, they were pee wee hockey games, hon."

It's really common for fans to bang on the glass at hockey games, probably even at pee wee games. You need to get out more.

by Anonymousreply 169July 9, 2019 5:42 PM

Baby suicides are on the rise with Trump in office.

by Anonymousreply 170July 9, 2019 5:43 PM

The toddler did not really enjoy looking out of the window or banging on the glass at hockey games. This is just a stupid excuse that her grandpa let the kid fall out of an open window.

by Anonymousreply 171July 9, 2019 5:47 PM

[quote] It's really common for fans to bang on the glass at hockey games, probably even at pee wee games. You need to get out more.

Yes, dear. I wasn't disputing that. It was the "idiots fighting and getting drunk" part I was skeptical about. At pee wee games.

by Anonymousreply 172July 9, 2019 5:54 PM

It was so sad. It almost ruined the vacation.

by Anonymousreply 173July 9, 2019 5:56 PM

When little kids touch things and bang on windows, they leave their germs everywhere, too.

Kid was a menace.

by Anonymousreply 174July 9, 2019 6:00 PM

Is the grandfather's name Helen Keller?

by Anonymousreply 175July 9, 2019 6:02 PM

[quote]r155 have you ever been to a hockey game?

[italic]What do you think i AM ? ?[/italic] Some low life ? ?

Go bang on a window somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 176July 9, 2019 6:05 PM

Now the family's attorney - it appears to have taken them about 5 seconds to lawyer up - are saying it wasn't grandpa's fault at all and that it is the cruise ship company who bears ALL the blame because grandpa couldn't tell if the window had a pane of glass in it or not. Grandpa thought the glass was just exceptionally spotless.

I'm looking at the pic of the window the baby fell out of. I'm going to go with the original reports of the child slipping out of grandpa's arms.

Puerto Rico says they are going to investigate and rule out the possibility of homicide. I hope they do investigate this.

by Anonymousreply 177July 9, 2019 6:16 PM

We know, r177, we were told at r123.

by Anonymousreply 178July 9, 2019 6:20 PM

[quote]Puerto Rico says they are going to investigate and rule out the possibility of homicide.

Pappy should be charged with homicide.

by Anonymousreply 179July 9, 2019 6:20 PM

Obviously an accident and the lawyers story is bullshit. Grandpa doesn't see well and has bad judgement.

by Anonymousreply 180July 9, 2019 6:22 PM

If you can't tell if a window is open or not, don't press your kid against it or make sure the window is really closed before you do. Common sense?

by Anonymousreply 181July 9, 2019 6:23 PM

[quote]The horrible people are the ones like you who blamed the mom. She didn't do anything wrong, the zoo did. Why have a cage that little kids can get into? Why not make your zoo safer?

The zoo had a barrier in place and the mother placed her child on top of the barrier to get a better view of the dangerous animals below. What more do you want, Dora Dumbfuck at R129? Should a zoo build an enclosure that reaches to the moon so that stupid parents can't do stupid things?

by Anonymousreply 182July 9, 2019 6:26 PM

[quote]r117 Puerto Rico says they are going to investigate and rule out the possibility of homicide. I hope they do investigate this.

[italic]"Baby Chloe had a smile that lit up the room, and a bright future as a dental hygienist..."

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by Anonymousreply 183July 9, 2019 6:27 PM

[quote]What happened to the dogs that ate the baby in Pittsburg?

Are they sure it wasn't a dingo?

by Anonymousreply 184July 9, 2019 7:12 PM

It could happen to anyone.

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by Anonymousreply 185July 9, 2019 7:32 PM

[italic]Everyone[/italic] knows Gloria's son jumped out a window due to being allergic to an antihistamine inhaler.

It was an open and shut case! Happens all the time.

by Anonymousreply 186July 9, 2019 7:43 PM

[quote]He wasn't "dropped" in, dipshit.

You should probably learn how to properly quote other posters before calling people dipshits, R131/R133/R139/etc. Just a tip.

by Anonymousreply 187July 9, 2019 8:01 PM

A good reason to not slather kids with all that gooey sunscreen, it makes them slippery!

by Anonymousreply 188July 9, 2019 8:02 PM

Why bother holding a 19-month-old? Let the lazy bitch walk.

by Anonymousreply 189July 9, 2019 8:09 PM

Why bother holding a 19-month-old? Let the lazy bitch walk.

by Anonymousreply 190July 9, 2019 8:09 PM

[Quote]grandpa couldn't tell if the window had a pane of glass in it or not. Grandpa thought the glass was just exceptionally spotless.

And he didn't notice the noise, or WIND coming in from outdoors???

Was grandpa deaf too?

by Anonymousreply 191July 9, 2019 8:12 PM

R188 slick + slippery = slickery!

by Anonymousreply 192July 9, 2019 8:12 PM

Geez what a horrible way to die; there was an incident a few years ago when a mentally ill (or at least one would assume) threw her toddler granddaughter off the 3rd floor walkway way at the Tysons Corner mall to get back at her daughter for getting pregnant by a guy that grandma didn't like

I'm not surprised these people lawyered up & they'll undoubtedly get something, but holding up a toddler chest height to an open window is just negligent. All toddlers squirm & you'd think you would keep them clear if anything they could come in contact with.

Has Mother Pence weighed in dangling children out the window - even if they're not illegal immigrants?

by Anonymousreply 193July 9, 2019 8:21 PM

And that, boys and girls, is where baby oil comes from.

by Anonymousreply 194July 9, 2019 8:21 PM

The article said the babe was pronounced dead at the hospital, later.

I can't help wondering if she was pancake shaped (?) Or did she have to be swept up from a 10-foot radius?

by Anonymousreply 195July 9, 2019 8:26 PM

^i doubt there was that much splatter considering the relatively light weight and distance

by Anonymousreply 196July 9, 2019 8:29 PM

She should have been dressed in a little flying nun hat, in retrospect

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by Anonymousreply 197July 9, 2019 8:33 PM

Thank you, R91.

They’re lying.

by Anonymousreply 198July 9, 2019 8:37 PM

[italic]LEAVE VICKI STUBING ALONE ! !

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by Anonymousreply 199July 9, 2019 9:23 PM

Jill Whelan is gorgeous!

by Anonymousreply 200July 9, 2019 9:25 PM

I hear the conditions were... deplorable.

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by Anonymousreply 201July 9, 2019 9:58 PM

You guys are SICK! Making fun of a dead toddler.

(And I’m loving it. Keep ‘me coming!!)

by Anonymousreply 202July 9, 2019 10:43 PM

She had a name, you know.

It was Cholera Chloe.

by Anonymousreply 203July 9, 2019 10:49 PM

If that were my child I would have to mourn my baby and my dear father because he would have been pushed overboard.

by Anonymousreply 204July 9, 2019 10:49 PM

I don't think this will bring the inlaws closer together.

by Anonymousreply 205July 9, 2019 10:51 PM

Waiting for a lawmaker to propose super inconvenient cruise legislation called Chloe’s Law.

by Anonymousreply 206July 9, 2019 11:35 PM

Just say a child has to be 10+ to be on a cruise. Their wits are a BIT more about them by then.

(Disney can do whatever it wants, of course)

by Anonymousreply 207July 9, 2019 11:51 PM

A child that young shouldn't even be on a cruise ship. They are too young to ever remember being on it so there's no reason for them to be there. It wouldn't hurt people to wait until their children are sufficient age before taking a cruise.

by Anonymousreply 208July 9, 2019 11:52 PM

Can’t we just put kids in cages on cruises?

by Anonymousreply 209July 9, 2019 11:53 PM

Cages at home, R209. Concrete on cruises.

by Anonymousreply 210July 9, 2019 11:55 PM

A BABY HAS DIED!!! This is not the time for jokes.

I like dark comedy as much as anybody, but this is not the time.

by Anonymousreply 211July 9, 2019 11:57 PM

Hey, I didn't ask for any of this!

by Anonymousreply 212July 9, 2019 11:57 PM

R211 you don’t have to read it, frau

by Anonymousreply 213July 9, 2019 11:59 PM

[quote]R211 A BABY HAS DIED!!! This is not the time for jokes.

It wasn’t a baby.

In a few short months it would enter the Terrible Twos.

by Anonymousreply 214July 9, 2019 11:59 PM

Go piss on a different thread, R211.

by Anonymousreply 215July 9, 2019 11:59 PM

R211 Thoughts and prayers.

by Anonymousreply 216July 9, 2019 11:59 PM

R211 Eat a bag of dicks.

by Anonymousreply 217July 10, 2019 12:05 AM

I don't believe anyone is making fun of a dead baby. Some of us just can't get past the ludicrous notion of allowing your child to sail out a fucking window. Ask yourself who the baby might give the side-eye to if she wete able right now.

by Anonymousreply 218July 10, 2019 12:06 AM

^^ were able^^

by Anonymousreply 219July 10, 2019 12:07 AM

If a tree falls on a baby in the forest, and no one is around to hear it, is it still hilarious?

by Anonymousreply 220July 10, 2019 12:11 AM

The cruise line is clearly at fault here. The idea of having an open window, or a window that is easily opened, that is open to the ground 150' below it, is obviously not safe.

The family should have been keeping a better eye on the baby, but the cruise line is also at fault.

by Anonymousreply 221July 10, 2019 12:12 AM

[quote]Chloe loved to look out from windows and bang on the glass like she did at her older brother's ice hockey games

I think we all can find some solace knowing that she died doing what she loved.

by Anonymousreply 222July 10, 2019 12:13 AM

The whole ship is essentially an open window. You cannot keep people safe from their own stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 223July 10, 2019 12:15 AM

R221, and if they didn't, they'd have people complaining that they couldn't open the window to get the fresh air and to see the wake below, etc.

No, the cruise line isn't at fault.

by Anonymousreply 224July 10, 2019 12:15 AM

R224, I think most passengers would give up fresh air so that baby can grow up to graduate from college, get married and have kids of her own.

by Anonymousreply 225July 10, 2019 12:18 AM

[quote]I think most passengers would give up fresh air so that baby can grow up to graduate from college, get married and have kids of her own.

That baby is not anyone’s responsibility but its own parents.

Most passengers would prefer that the baby not be on the cruise ship in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 226July 10, 2019 12:23 AM

R225 the those breeders can NOT go on a cruise, for fuck sake.

Frau.

by Anonymousreply 227July 10, 2019 12:23 AM

If grandpa gave her a "magic" feather before she took off, he's got some esplaining to do.

by Anonymousreply 228July 10, 2019 12:24 AM

[quote][R224], I think most passengers would give up fresh air so that baby can grow up to graduate from college, get married and have kids of her own.

With that logic, why not bolt every balcony door shut? Encircle every deck with a system of impenetrable bars? Drain the pools, too. I'm sure the passengers would be happy to give up comforts to keep the mouth-breathers from endangering themselves or their children.

by Anonymousreply 229July 10, 2019 12:29 AM

Grandpa obviously has a problem with eyesight and ledges. If he hadn't dropped the baby out the window, he eventually would have cast her over the railings. It is horrible that it happened, but it is not the cruise line's fault.

by Anonymousreply 230July 10, 2019 12:29 AM

What was Grampy's BAL?

Only a matter of time before witnesses and servers discuss how much Grampy drank before dangling poor Chloe on the window ledge.

He looks like a drinker.

by Anonymousreply 231July 10, 2019 12:34 AM

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by Anonymousreply 232July 10, 2019 12:35 AM

R221 there are decks with railings up there, too. You theory about the danger and liability of an open window is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 233July 10, 2019 12:38 AM

Umm ok I’ll say it: the kid looked a little “touched.” Are we sure she didn’t jump out on her own accord, thinking she could fly?

by Anonymousreply 234July 10, 2019 12:38 AM

Murder charges? I think we can all agree that some things are better left to be dealt with internally.

by Anonymousreply 235July 10, 2019 12:42 AM

[quote]I'm not surprised these people lawyered up & they'll undoubtedly get something, but holding up a toddler chest height to an open window is just negligent.

Funny how out of, what, 20+ windows in that room grandpa just happened to pick the one that was open...

[quote]Only a matter of time before witnesses and servers discuss how much Grampy drank before dangling poor Chloe on the window ledge.

Bingo!

by Anonymousreply 236July 10, 2019 12:44 AM

Yes! Clearly they should sue the beer company... and Grandpa too!

by Anonymousreply 237July 10, 2019 12:48 AM

Maybe it's because I was raised by an overprotective father, but I can't fathom holding a baby anywhere near a window or a balcony. It just seems like tempting the fates.

by Anonymousreply 238July 10, 2019 12:52 AM

They are really reaching with the excuses. The story about the baby loving to bang on the windows at hockey games so he decided to let her do it here? Hockey rinks are lined with Plexiglass- it’s not glass at all, it’s acrylic. Who doesn’t know that? A baby banging on glass anywhere is dangerous, let alone on the 11th floor.

by Anonymousreply 239July 10, 2019 12:56 AM

This family is ruined.

by Anonymousreply 240July 10, 2019 1:30 AM

Was she hiding food?

by Anonymousreply 241July 10, 2019 4:15 AM

Was the rest of the family there when it happened? Can you imagine the reaction to Grandpa? WHOA

by Anonymousreply 242July 10, 2019 5:37 AM

If that had Chloe on a leash they could have pulled her back in. Stop letting small children run around untethered.

by Anonymousreply 243July 10, 2019 6:28 AM

The brahs know how to do this.

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by Anonymousreply 244July 10, 2019 11:00 AM

[quote] A BABY HAS DIED!!! This is not the time for jokes.

Oh trust me, there's nothing some of the mental case filth on this site love more than a dead baby

by Anonymousreply 245July 10, 2019 11:03 AM

We don't trust you, R245.

by Anonymousreply 246July 10, 2019 11:19 AM

Someone has died!

by Anonymousreply 247July 10, 2019 12:09 PM

Who is going to get the Most Negligent Grandparent award this year? Chloe's grandpa or the grandma from SC who left her gun lying around for the 2-year-old to shoot himself?

by Anonymousreply 248July 10, 2019 12:09 PM

[quote]A child that young shouldn't even be on a cruise ship. They are too young to ever remember being on it so there's no reason for them to be there.

Oh, I think THIS one will be particularly memorable.

by Anonymousreply 249July 10, 2019 12:18 PM

That’s a tough one, r248. Plus, the year is not over.

Guess the category is not split up into Grandmother and Grandfather. That would be an easy shoo-in.

by Anonymousreply 250July 10, 2019 12:19 PM

I am going with Grandpa is a drinker. FFS, the kid should not have been endangered. The mother saw it, why did they have poor judgment, alchy Gramps holding her?

The lawyer makes a living suing cruise lines, he likely contacted them. That the family delayed speaking to the police, with daddio a cop himself, is, however, telling.

The video will be horrific but should indicate what actually happened. Who would trust a pane of glass at that height anyway? Plexiglass is NOT glass.

by Anonymousreply 251July 10, 2019 12:34 PM

David Foster Wallace's "A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again" comes to mind. I hate those giant floating boxes. I love ships, the sea, nonfiction and literature associated with the sea, etc., etc. But cruise ships? Fuck that noise.

If I was that idiot grandfather, I would already be dead (I like to believe); the shame and remorse of what I had done would be unbearable. The pain that family must be enduring has to be horrible, putting aside for a moment that lawyering up b.s.

by Anonymousreply 252July 10, 2019 1:14 PM

"Plexiglass is NOT glass."

Plexiglass is a trade name for acrylic glass. It is not standard silica-based glass, but is considered a form of glass.

by Anonymousreply 253July 10, 2019 1:19 PM

Will grandpa attend the funeral? Talk about awkward. Lots of whispers and side eye.

by Anonymousreply 254July 10, 2019 1:30 PM

[quote]Will grandpa attend the funeral? Talk about awkward. Lots of whispers and side eye.

Well, they definitely shouldn't make him one of the pallbearers.

by Anonymousreply 255July 10, 2019 1:34 PM

R253 = Bill Nye

by Anonymousreply 256July 10, 2019 1:46 PM

R255 wins this entire fucking thread!!

Everyone at work is staring at me because I just involuntarily let out a huge guffaw!

Good show, old man!

by Anonymousreply 257July 10, 2019 1:47 PM

[quote]I think most passengers would give up fresh air so that baby can grow up to graduate from college, get married and have kids of her own.

R225, I think most passengers wouldn't be stupid enough to put their kid in an open window 150 feet above the ground.

by Anonymousreply 258July 10, 2019 1:47 PM

[quote]I think most passengers would give up fresh air so that baby can grow up to graduate from college, get married and have kids of her own.

Are you kidding? People who go on a Royal Caribbean megaship wouldn't give up a fried mozzarella stick for someone else.

by Anonymousreply 259July 10, 2019 1:54 PM

I just found out a relative is going on that exact ship next month for vacay (yes she's a Frau). Anything I should ask her to do?

by Anonymousreply 260July 10, 2019 1:56 PM

Buy duct tape and plastic to carefully seal off those windows.

by Anonymousreply 261July 10, 2019 2:00 PM

Pictures, r260.

Lots and lots of pictures.

The window, the splat marks, the railing, etc.

by Anonymousreply 262July 10, 2019 2:00 PM

[quote]People who go on a Royal Caribbean megaship wouldn't give up a fried mozzarella stick for someone else.

I sure as hell wouldn’t.

by Anonymousreply 263July 10, 2019 2:01 PM

[quote]I think most passengers would give up fresh air so that baby can grow up to graduate from college, get married and have kids of her own.

Why are you assuming the kid would've grown up to be a cis heterosexual woman? Hmmm.

by Anonymousreply 264July 10, 2019 2:23 PM

Is it true that the child recited Sappho's "Ode to Aphrodite" on the way down?

by Anonymousreply 265July 10, 2019 2:25 PM

Chloe may well have grown up to be the next Hitler.

by Anonymousreply 266July 10, 2019 2:34 PM

That's why we have litters.

by Anonymousreply 267July 10, 2019 3:48 PM

Doesn’t really matter how it happened. We have too many children in the world today. Fewer the better. I’ll be 50 next year and despise children more and more the older I get. Let them all die.

by Anonymousreply 268July 10, 2019 3:50 PM

R222, you are a right bastard who received a deserved WW.

by Anonymousreply 269July 10, 2019 3:51 PM

They cleaned up the sidewalk after by putting out baskets of Tostitos.

by Anonymousreply 270July 10, 2019 4:25 PM

R245 yes so it would seem .... Whole new level of c u next Tuesdays and the reason I'll never be out of a job.

by Anonymousreply 271July 10, 2019 5:49 PM

It would take a complete moron not to realize a window on a ship at sea was open.

This is on you, Grandpa.

by Anonymousreply 272July 10, 2019 5:54 PM

R271 Just say cunt. See you next Tuesday is something children say.

by Anonymousreply 273July 10, 2019 5:56 PM

R273 and fraus

by Anonymousreply 274July 10, 2019 6:00 PM

Please, the kid was only 19 months. He couldn't have been that attached to it

by Anonymousreply 275July 10, 2019 6:04 PM

The whole family is MARY! They had to be "sedated" after the incident.

by Anonymousreply 276July 10, 2019 6:15 PM

The whole family is MARY! They had to be "sedated" after the incident.

Well, I think we can all agree that they couldn't very well just go to dinner and pretend nothing had happened; better take a pill & get a fresh perspective in the morning!

by Anonymousreply 277July 10, 2019 6:43 PM

I'm curious about all the honeymooners on that cruise. Are their marriages cursed now?

by Anonymousreply 278July 10, 2019 6:46 PM

This thread has me howling. You bitches are funny.

by Anonymousreply 279July 10, 2019 6:47 PM

What gets me about this is the horror of a moment that will forever change the lives of a family. One minute you're a happy group on the exciting first day of a long planned for cruise. You're looking forward to the coming days of fun and frolic, while letting your cares drift away.

Then, in one epic, ghastly flash of a second, your world changes radically because:

1) you're the grandpa who dropped his granddaughter to a certain grisly death, marking yourself as a pariah until the end of your days

2) you're the parents who in a stomach lurching change of everything, realize your beloved baby is dead, along with all of your hopes and dreams

3) you're the grandma who thinks, "I never should have married that idiot and now I'm filing for the divorce I should have got years ago."

4) you're a shaken up passenger on the ship whose vacation will result in tragic memories of sudden death

All around a terrible ordeal.

by Anonymousreply 280July 10, 2019 7:40 PM

It happened on the Golden Gate Bridge 20 years back that a family was walking across at the north end when their toddler slipped and fell between a 9.5" space between the sidewalk and a metal beam. It had never been noticed as a danger before but the toddler tripped in a way that in a second it fell through the space and fell 167 feet to a concrete ledge before.

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by Anonymousreply 281July 10, 2019 7:44 PM

That sums it up nicely, R280. Great post.

by Anonymousreply 282July 10, 2019 7:45 PM

Will the cruiseline hand out free Tortuga Rum Cakes to everyone?

by Anonymousreply 283July 10, 2019 8:04 PM

Will the cruiseline hand out free Tortuga Rum Cakes to everyone?

by Anonymousreply 284July 10, 2019 8:04 PM

Has anyone considered that this infant was dropped on purpose? If they got “clumsy old grandpa” to do the deed it looks less suspicious. I know my brother hates his kids, maybe this is an option for us.

by Anonymousreply 285July 10, 2019 8:08 PM

I’ve been on that boat. There is no way you wouldn’t now the window is open. The old man is stupid and a liar.

by Anonymousreply 286July 10, 2019 8:13 PM

Yeah, wouldn’t there be some kind of breeze or moving air coming through the open window? Especially at that height with no obstructions.

by Anonymousreply 287July 10, 2019 8:28 PM

[quote]Will the cruiseline hand out free Tortuga Rum Cakes to everyone?

It was Royal Caribbean. You'd be luck to get Dollar Tree pound cakes.

by Anonymousreply 288July 10, 2019 8:30 PM

[quote] Has anyone considered that this infant was dropped on purpose?

Yes, the Puerto Rican sheriff is investigating the baby drop for evidence of MURDER, MANSLAUGHTER, TERMINAL STUPIDITY, etc.

by Anonymousreply 289July 10, 2019 8:32 PM

[quote]Has anyone considered that this infant was dropped on purpose?

No, no a single one of the previous 283 posts brought up that possibility.

by Anonymousreply 290July 10, 2019 8:32 PM

Were they all watching Gramps hold her up to the window? I can't even imagine what happened when she dropped. I would have beat my father down if he did that.

by Anonymousreply 291July 10, 2019 8:38 PM

[quote]I’ve been on that boat. There is no way you wouldn’t know the window is open. The old man is stupid and a liar.

For what it's worth, in the photos of that section of the ship that were included in some of the articles about this tragedy, it's 100 percent clear and very obvious that that window was open and the ones on either side of it were closed.

by Anonymousreply 292July 10, 2019 8:55 PM

[quote]Well, I think we can all agree that they couldn't very well just go to dinner and pretend nothing had happened;

Why not? I did.

RIP Susan

by Anonymousreply 293July 10, 2019 9:00 PM

I wonder if they still went on with the rest of the cruise.

What? Those tickets are expensive!

by Anonymousreply 294July 10, 2019 9:01 PM

I’m happy that the sharks got a nice chubby baby treat to eat. 😊

by Anonymousreply 295July 10, 2019 9:02 PM

[quote] I wonder if they still went on with the rest of the cruise.

The cruise company gave them drugs and lured them off. It's a good thing, too. Who knows who grandpa would have thrown off the boat next.

by Anonymousreply 296July 10, 2019 9:02 PM

How old is Grandpa? Dementia?

by Anonymousreply 297July 10, 2019 9:09 PM

R295, Didn't she hit a concrete surface and not the water?

by Anonymousreply 298July 10, 2019 9:10 PM

[quote] Didn't she hit a concrete surface and not the water?

Yes but they threw the scraps overboard for the sharks.

by Anonymousreply 299July 10, 2019 9:12 PM

R299, How thoughtful.

by Anonymousreply 300July 10, 2019 9:18 PM

That would chum not scraps.

by Anonymousreply 301July 10, 2019 9:20 PM

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by Anonymousreply 302July 10, 2019 9:22 PM

My heart will go on.

by Anonymousreply 303July 10, 2019 9:26 PM

Nobody puts baby in the window!

by Anonymousreply 304July 10, 2019 9:38 PM

From the photos, it looks like the glass is tinted. If this is the case, it should have been obvious that the one window was open. Gramps probably propped the kid up on the ledge for the view and thought he would just hold her. Until she wriggled out of his hands and plummeted to her death. This is where the "he was dangling her out the window" came from in the original account. The family's subsequent statements are obviously damage control.

To add to R280's list: The parents will likely divorce, too. Many marriages fall apart after the death of a child. The whole family is fucked.

by Anonymousreply 305July 10, 2019 9:39 PM

Baby cried the day the cruise ship came to town

While she danced without a net upon the window

Fly high and proud

And if you should fall, remember you almost had it all

by Anonymousreply 306July 10, 2019 9:47 PM

Gravity is the real villain here.

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by Anonymousreply 307July 10, 2019 9:53 PM

R306 For the Win!

by Anonymousreply 308July 10, 2019 10:00 PM

Can we stop with the “R___ for the win!” posts? They’re not clever anymore.

by Anonymousreply 309July 10, 2019 10:01 PM

R309 has stated her boundaries!

by Anonymousreply 310July 10, 2019 10:21 PM

R309 for the win!

by Anonymousreply 311July 10, 2019 10:23 PM

There had to be a breeze coming through that window.

by Anonymousreply 312July 10, 2019 10:24 PM

It would help to know what the baby's last words were. especially if it was like, "Look at me Damien, it's all for you."

by Anonymousreply 313July 10, 2019 10:45 PM

R309 - for the win!!

by Anonymousreply 314July 10, 2019 10:47 PM

R313 - that’s one of favorites!!! When she hangs herself at the birthday party and Damien just keeps playing!!! Wonderful ❤️

by Anonymousreply 315July 10, 2019 10:48 PM

A good Christmas gift to give drunk Grampy.

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by Anonymousreply 316July 10, 2019 10:54 PM

[quote]r305 To add to [R280]'s list: The parents will likely divorce, too. Many marriages fall apart after the death of a child. The whole family is fucked.

The grandfather's only chance of a pass is that he's on the mother's side of the family. Had this been her father-in-law, he'd be DEAD TO HER.

If he were indeed charged by the San Juan police, it would make a fine Lifetime movie if she were a lawyer, herself: [italic]"She had already lost a daughter - she was not going to lose a father, too!"

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by Anonymousreply 317July 10, 2019 11:12 PM

Melania's See Through Dress Titties For The Win!

by Anonymousreply 318July 10, 2019 11:20 PM

R317 Starring Lori Loughlin and featuring Joe Namath as Grandpa.

by Anonymousreply 319July 10, 2019 11:24 PM

We also have the cop father - there will be heartbreaking scenes where he's told it's okay to cry. Then he'll punch a wall before bursting into tears.

by Anonymousreply 320July 10, 2019 11:26 PM

[quote]The parents will likely divorce, too. Many marriages fall apart after the death of a child. The whole family is fucked.

If it's any consolation for them, the dad is a cop and the divorce rate within the police force is 70-80% so they were probably going to divorce anyway, regardless of whether the kid lived or not.

by Anonymousreply 321July 10, 2019 11:41 PM

The rights to the Olivia Newton-John song "Richard's Window to the Sky" may be available. Maybe ONJ can even play the grandma? Or a key grief counselor, or something.

Whatever - she can surely rework the song for [italic]Window to the Sky: The Chloe Wiegand Story

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by Anonymousreply 322July 10, 2019 11:47 PM

SPLAT!

by Anonymousreply 323July 10, 2019 11:54 PM

^^ Too soon.

I think [italic]SPLAT: The Chloe Wiegand Story![/italic] should be saved for the Off-Off Broadway musical version, further down the road.

We must be respectful.

by Anonymousreply 324July 10, 2019 11:58 PM

This thread is almost as funny as Dan Motherfuck. Or it could be.

by Anonymousreply 325July 11, 2019 12:01 AM

Dead babies are pretty hilarious!

by Anonymousreply 326July 11, 2019 12:06 AM

Fucking love Joan Cornellà, R307!

by Anonymousreply 327July 11, 2019 12:13 AM

Will Eric Clapton be contacting the family with support?

by Anonymousreply 328July 11, 2019 12:15 AM

Has Blanket Jackson issued a statement yet?

by Anonymousreply 329July 11, 2019 12:20 AM

r328 I figured they could just do a remake of his "Tears In Heaven" song for the tv movie

by Anonymousreply 330July 11, 2019 12:23 AM

I hate to speak ill of the dead but that child was pretty unfortunate looking. Huge head.

Not quite as bad as Lady Edith's mongoloid child though. So how did Clapton's kid fall out the window?

by Anonymousreply 331July 11, 2019 12:24 AM

[quote]r330 I figured they could just do a remake of his "Tears In Heaven" song for the tv movie

The Lifetime movie will need lots of songs. There will be lots of montages to off-set the hard hitting courtroom scenes in which Lori Loughlin defends her father..

by Anonymousreply 332July 11, 2019 12:27 AM

Wonder if the security footage will be released

by Anonymousreply 333July 11, 2019 12:36 AM

Grandpa should just end it, a la Carrie/Debbie.

by Anonymousreply 334July 11, 2019 12:41 AM

Maybe this will bring back great defenestrations -- but at first, baby steps.

by Anonymousreply 335July 11, 2019 12:46 AM

Gramps was confused. He thought he was at the Toddler Toss event.

by Anonymousreply 336July 11, 2019 1:03 AM

r334 do you think Debbie willed herself to die?

by Anonymousreply 337July 11, 2019 1:42 AM

"THAT'S what I'm gonna do to YOU if you don't SHUT UYP!"

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by Anonymousreply 338July 11, 2019 2:14 AM

In the ER, we call it failure to fly

by Anonymousreply 339July 11, 2019 2:44 AM

[quote]From the photos, it looks like the glass is tinted. If this is the case, it should have been obvious that the one window was open. Gramps probably propped the kid up on the ledge for the view and thought he would just hold her. Until she wriggled out of his hands and plummeted to her death. This is where the "he was dangling her out the window" came from in the original account. The family's subsequent statements are obviously damage control.

In one of the photos of that section of the ship that was included in some of the articles, taken from outside the ship, it was very clear that one window was open and all or most of the others were not. But I have to admit that in another photo of the same wall of windows, taken from INSIDE the ship, it's much less obvious. Both photos from both shooting points are included in this article, so you can all look and make your own judgment.

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by Anonymousreply 340July 11, 2019 3:43 AM

It's a fucking hand rail, not a baby perch.

by Anonymousreply 341July 11, 2019 4:05 AM

That photo is at night R340. I believe it happened during the day. The sunlight bouncing off of the windows makes it easier to see that it is closed. And, even if you can't tell from a distance, you certainly can when you are right in front of it - day or night.

by Anonymousreply 342July 11, 2019 4:22 AM

Do you guys think the girl would have had a chance if she had fallen into the water?

by Anonymousreply 343July 11, 2019 4:44 AM

Can you imagine how awkward Thanksgiving dinner will be this year? "It was supposed to be baby Chloe's second Turkey Day. She had so hoped to watch the bird roasting in the oven, with her little face pressed up against the oven door to get a close-up view. Just like at the hockey games!"

by Anonymousreply 344July 11, 2019 5:09 AM

She will be banging on the window from heaven!*!

by Anonymousreply 345July 11, 2019 5:11 AM

She will be banging on the window from heaven!*!

by Anonymousreply 346July 11, 2019 5:11 AM

Grampa could have chosen at least 10 other windows that were closed, but stupidly chose the only one that was opened. I bet he chose it because he thought he would get a better view. What a moron!

by Anonymousreply 347July 11, 2019 5:13 AM

[quote]R341 It's a fucking hand rail, not a baby perch.

[italic]It's a Hardknock Life

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by Anonymousreply 348July 11, 2019 6:10 AM

Ben Platt will be singing at the funeral.

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by Anonymousreply 349July 11, 2019 6:20 AM

"Keep passing the open windows" -

[italic]The Hotel New Hampshire

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by Anonymousreply 350July 11, 2019 7:29 AM

R350 Fuck dude, I thought the exact same thing, and was going to post it. Eerie

by Anonymousreply 351July 11, 2019 7:55 AM

Usually with a 'falling' story, this gets posted.

Not the wittiest contribution, but Tom Petty was kinda fun, and had a career for ages

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by Anonymousreply 353July 11, 2019 8:27 AM

R353 Fuck, had no idea she topped herself, awful

by Anonymousreply 354July 11, 2019 8:39 AM

[quote]Will Eric Clapton be contacting the family with support?

Yeah. A leash.

by Anonymousreply 355July 11, 2019 1:09 PM

[quote]Fuck, had no idea she topped herself

That’s a thing? We can do that?

by Anonymousreply 356July 11, 2019 1:09 PM

Appropriate

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by Anonymousreply 357July 11, 2019 1:54 PM

Gpa is old enough for Cameo’s “Word Up”.

It’s important we establish the festive atmosphere of throwing his hands in the air like he just don’t care.

by Anonymousreply 358July 11, 2019 1:59 PM

Grandpa put the kid up there, she didn't crawl up there herself. He needs to take responsibility for his mistake, now it just seems like a greedy money grab by the family.

by Anonymousreply 359July 11, 2019 2:11 PM

[quote]Grampa could have chosen at least 10 other windows that were closed, but stupidly chose the only one that was opened. I bet he chose it because he thought he would get a better view. What a moron!

I think you are probably right and that's exactly what he did, for that reason. Then, when the baby wriggled out of his grasp and fell to her death, he probably thought as quickly as he could and tried to come with some kind of story that would resolve him of responsibility, leading to the "I didn't know the window was open" defense.

by Anonymousreply 360July 11, 2019 7:42 PM

The window wall is not at 90 perpendicular to the floor. The wall of windows juts out slightly. If gramps approached that window with baby at window height, baby was pretty much out over the dock or sea, not over the floor. Baby didn't need to hit the window sill, it would be a sheer drop straight down.

by Anonymousreply 361July 11, 2019 8:02 PM

Should be a murder investigation especially now that the family is suing the cruise ship. It's sign of the times that there's an increase in child "accidents" such as "forgetting" your infant kids in the car. People are either evolutionary-wise dumber or they see $$$ with lawsuits by sacrificing their kids. Maybe it's just me feeling extra cynical but I've worked in psych and deal with some seriously damaged people who did fucked up things that make you want to hate humanity sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 362July 11, 2019 8:35 PM

[quote]would resolve him of responsibility,

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 363July 11, 2019 8:54 PM

R362, I have a feeling that has more to do with the self-absorption of today’s parents. Social media and taking pictures of your food is much more important than remembering you left your crotch droppings in the car outside the restaurant.

by Anonymousreply 364July 11, 2019 8:55 PM

Hopefully any CCTV will be clear enough to make it clear if klutzy grandpa was to blame or not.

by Anonymousreply 365July 11, 2019 9:07 PM

[quote]My heart will go on.

Choe: Hello Grandpa. I changed my mind. They said you might be out here.

Grandpa: Shhh. Gimme your hand. Now close your eyes, go on. Now step up. Now hold on to the railing. Keep your eyes closed, don't peek.

Choe: I'm not.

Grandpa: Step up on the railing. Hold on, hold on. Keep your eyes closed. Do you trust me?

Choe: I trust you.

[Grandpa opens Choe's arms]

Grandpa: All right. Open your eyes.

Choe: [gasp] I'm flying, Grandpa!

[Grandpa starts singing]

Grandpa: Come, Josephine, in my flying machine, going up, she goes up, up she goes.

by Anonymousreply 366July 11, 2019 9:08 PM

Slipping through my fingers!

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by Anonymousreply 368July 11, 2019 9:11 PM

1. Babies are fragile. 2. Grandpas are clumsy oafs. 3. Cruise ships are for adults.

by Anonymousreply 369July 11, 2019 9:15 PM

They should have went on a Disney cruise, chances are the floors are rubber. She might even have landed on one of those plush character mascots and ended up with hardly a bruise.

by Anonymousreply 370July 11, 2019 9:27 PM

[quote]They should have went on a Disney cruise

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 371July 11, 2019 9:29 PM

[quote]They should have went on a Disney cruise

And ended up in the crossfire of a ToonTown brawl?

Either way, that baby was doomed.

by Anonymousreply 372July 11, 2019 11:01 PM

There have been rumors of Mickey Mouse being a baby cannibal for years.

by Anonymousreply 373July 11, 2019 11:03 PM

I've often wondered how nursery rhymes are created.....

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by Anonymousreply 374July 11, 2019 11:09 PM

OMG - the picture at R368! That's Megan Markle's dad! Good thing she didn't invite him to the christening!

by Anonymousreply 375July 11, 2019 11:49 PM

Nope, R369, 3: cruise ships are for children.

by Anonymousreply 376July 12, 2019 12:04 AM

Grampy has quite the beer belly. Most likely had been drinking (and that will be proven via witness and server statements/video) and got clumsy with the toddler.

Drunk grampy won't be getting any $$$ , just maybe a manslaughter conviction.

by Anonymousreply 377July 12, 2019 12:18 AM

One of the news stories I read states old-beer-belly isn't a drinker. We'll see if that holds when the videos and witnesses come forth.

by Anonymousreply 378July 12, 2019 12:26 AM

Cruise ships are for old people, not babies.

by Anonymousreply 379July 12, 2019 12:30 AM

Many people go on cruise ships so they can park their children in some cruise ship daycare while they drink, have sex, gamble, and eat. Then they talk to the kids in the evenings and pretend to care about the macaroni pictures and macrame they crafted during the day, assuming the kids can find them at all at that point.

by Anonymousreply 380July 12, 2019 12:32 AM

Will y'all leave this poor Granpappy ALONE? Jes cuz we live in red states and put our grand babies in freakishly dangerous situations don't make us KILLERS. So done with all you libruls.

by Anonymousreply 381July 12, 2019 1:07 AM

This used to be pappy's favorite song....

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by Anonymousreply 382July 12, 2019 1:27 AM

Sorry, R363, I meant "absolve" him of responsibility. I do know that "resolve" has a different meaning :-(

by Anonymousreply 383July 12, 2019 3:48 AM

[quote]I meant "absolve" him of responsibility. I do know that "resolve" has a different meaning

Did you really, Rose?

by Anonymousreply 384July 12, 2019 4:45 AM

All in good fun, r383.

by Anonymousreply 385July 12, 2019 9:06 AM

How much jail time did the guy who threw the kid in the shopping mall get?

by Anonymousreply 386July 12, 2019 10:15 AM

Shame on them if they sue the ship

by Anonymousreply 387July 12, 2019 10:45 AM

Gramps has some dirty shorts in the back in that video

by Anonymousreply 388July 12, 2019 10:48 AM

It says he thought he would let her bang on the window. What a stupid thing to do anyway, who just lets their kid bang on windows? I can understand at a hockey game but not other places.

by Anonymousreply 389July 12, 2019 10:55 AM

Why wasn't Grandma with Grandpa watching the baby?

by Anonymousreply 390July 12, 2019 10:56 AM

The family is trying to spin it and blame it on the cruise line. Sounds like a money grab.

by Anonymousreply 391July 12, 2019 10:58 AM

This was a terrible accident but if they use it as a money grab then I lose a lot of sympathy for them

by Anonymousreply 392July 12, 2019 11:00 AM

They already are, r392. They’ve lawyered up and have started a GoFundMe.

by Anonymousreply 393July 12, 2019 12:27 PM

The father is a cop but Gramps refused to be interviewed by the police. Nothing shady about it. Was it set up as a money grab before or just after? Whole thing is very sketchy. Poor little munchkin. I think he was drunk.

by Anonymousreply 394July 12, 2019 1:56 PM

Any cop friend or family member, or lawyer will tell you not to speak to cops. Ever. For anything. Especially when they’re side eyeing you for a potential murder case.

by Anonymousreply 395July 12, 2019 2:10 PM

I would sue that cruise line for everything they have. Deep pockets. The money would definitely help ease my sorrows. And I would enjoy the remainder of my life without that squawking shit factory.

by Anonymousreply 396July 12, 2019 2:26 PM

r394 and r395 type Trumpian.

by Anonymousreply 397July 12, 2019 4:03 PM

We sure do miss Chloe, but we looove our brand new Corvette and 3,000 square foot cookie cutter house.

by Anonymousreply 398July 12, 2019 4:10 PM

If it's Trumpian to hold off on talking to cops when they've announced they are investigating you for MURDER, then count me as a Trumpian!

by Anonymousreply 399July 12, 2019 4:10 PM

I have proven my point, r399.

by Anonymousreply 400July 12, 2019 4:12 PM

[QUOTE]That's horrible. Why would anybody dangle a kid out a window?

I've always wondered that myself.

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by Anonymousreply 401July 12, 2019 4:14 PM

At least when Whacko did it, someone probably would’ve caught Duvet since there was a crowd below.

The Puerto Ricans weren’t given enough advance notice.

by Anonymousreply 402July 12, 2019 4:26 PM

They created a GoFundMe? What the hell? For what? Do they now want people to pay for THEIR mistakes? I felt sorry for this family, but suing the company and a fundraiser is a bit much. Seems like they really want to profit off of this.

by Anonymousreply 403July 12, 2019 5:00 PM

What is the point of the GoFundMe? Lawyers to defend grandpa from the negligence charges?

I mean, if they get a nice payout I can see other people doing something similar.

by Anonymousreply 404July 12, 2019 5:03 PM

What's with Chloe's big forehead and no hair?

by Anonymousreply 405July 12, 2019 5:21 PM

R404, They're planning to renovate her bedroom.

by Anonymousreply 406July 12, 2019 6:34 PM

[quote] What is the point of the GoFundMe?

They weren't able to complete their last family vacation and it's not as if Royal Caribbean will be welcoming them back anytime soon. Disneyworld, here they come! Grandpa will have ample opporunity to finish what he started in Puerto Rico.

by Anonymousreply 407July 12, 2019 6:42 PM

R407 Do they have any other kids gramps can drop from high places?

by Anonymousreply 408July 12, 2019 6:54 PM

The concrete was so salty that day.

by Anonymousreply 409July 12, 2019 7:53 PM

[quote] It says he thought he would let her bang on the window. What a stupid thing to do anyway, who just lets their kid bang on windows? I can understand at a hockey game but not other places.

This is the part I don't understand, especially if the window (on the ship) is made out of glass. She could have broken the glass and injured herself and others. I'm not familiar with hockey culture, but someone upthread pointed out that the glass is actually plexiglass.

by Anonymousreply 410July 12, 2019 7:55 PM

Gramps is a lying drunk, he says he was letting her bash the window, but as the window was open there was no glass to bash. He is totally Liza Minnelli

by Anonymousreply 411July 12, 2019 8:58 PM

I see a conviction for negligent homicide in drunk grampy's future.

by Anonymousreply 412July 13, 2019 12:18 AM

I take it he's the maternal grandfather?

by Anonymousreply 413July 13, 2019 12:20 AM

Yes, he's the maternal grandfather.

by Anonymousreply 414July 13, 2019 12:21 AM

Sorry to point out an uncomfortable truth here but that kid had a face like a dropped pie

by Anonymousreply 415July 13, 2019 1:03 AM

If it were my father, I'd hate him for life. No way I could forgive him for being an idiot and murderer.

by Anonymousreply 416July 13, 2019 1:07 AM

Do the right thing, Gramps.

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by Anonymousreply 417July 13, 2019 1:13 AM

Even if grandpa didn't mean to toss her over, it is at the very least child endangerment due to him being under the influence of a substance AND placing the child in danger. I'm sensing though it could be more sinister than that scenario, people do fucked up things for money and lawsuits or perpetuating frauds are more common than you think. I used to deal with patients who wanted me to write them off for disability or document non-existing injuries as part of their record so they could then file lawsuits. I don't put any shit past people now because of what I'd seen and dealt with in my work.

by Anonymousreply 418July 13, 2019 1:14 AM

Look closer in their financial situation

by Anonymousreply 419July 13, 2019 1:16 AM

3,2,1 for the enactment of "Chloe's Law": it will ensure all windows on all cruise ships forevermore to have completely sealed, baby proof windows. To avoid this sort of senseless tragedy happening in the future.

by Anonymousreply 420July 13, 2019 1:17 AM

I wish I could be on the jury to make sure that the family didn't get a dime from anyone but themselves.

by Anonymousreply 421July 13, 2019 1:18 AM

It's kind of weird that the Justice Department says that they are investigating the accident and might file charges. Of course I read that in the Daily Mail, which is not really the best source of information for non-Meghan Markle occurences.

by Anonymousreply 422July 13, 2019 1:23 AM

Yes. That's the only reason he's still allowed the breathe.

by Anonymousreply 423July 13, 2019 2:06 AM

[quote]r415 Sorry to point out an uncomfortable truth here but that kid had a face like a dropped pie

Well, now she does.

by Anonymousreply 424July 13, 2019 2:09 AM

Another section of "Chloe's Law" will call for lengthy prison sentences for irresponsible, drunk family members who drop toddlers to their deaths.

by Anonymousreply 425July 13, 2019 2:45 AM

And yet another section of Chloe's law will prohibit the transportation of children small enough to drop through open windows.

by Anonymousreply 426July 13, 2019 2:48 AM

[quote] Sorry to point out an uncomfortable truth here but that kid had a face like a dropped pie

That's no reason to throw a baby away! Some of us go on to do great things.

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by Anonymousreply 428July 13, 2019 5:46 AM

Will there be a grief baby?

by Anonymousreply 429July 13, 2019 5:50 AM

[quote] R404: What is the point of the GoFundMe?

They do this for everything, now. Someone dies, and the next you know, there’s a donation suggestion.

by Anonymousreply 430July 13, 2019 6:22 AM

[quote]Can you imagine how awkward Thanksgiving dinner will be this year?

"Hey gramps, would you pass the sweet potatoes? Wait! No! Stop!"

by Anonymousreply 431July 13, 2019 6:39 AM

That's not blow through that GoFundMe money . They won't get a dime from the cruise line. These big Cruise Lines flag their ships out of the country for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 432July 13, 2019 7:05 AM

Is there a link to their GoFundMe? Can't believe people would really donate money to this. Did they get a blood sample of Grandpa after the incident? If he really was drunk, the family should be even more ashamed to file charges.

by Anonymousreply 433July 13, 2019 8:19 AM

R438 Ugly cop, he is yours

by Anonymousreply 434July 13, 2019 11:27 AM

How much older than the dead daughter is their son?

by Anonymousreply 435July 13, 2019 11:34 AM

Newest information released details how dirty old gramp had sexually molested the little snot factory and was wisely getting rid of the “evidence.” Between this family and the Disney Debacle, I’m never leaving the house again. The general public is trash.

by Anonymousreply 436July 13, 2019 11:50 AM

The cruise line won't pay out - there'd be poppets raining down like hailstones if they did.

by Anonymousreply 437July 13, 2019 12:04 PM

“And and and bad children are taken on vacation to the Hoover Dam by Grandpa”

by Anonymousreply 438July 13, 2019 12:11 PM

Will the family go to the Grand Canyon? There are plenty of places gramps could toss the next kid.

by Anonymousreply 439July 13, 2019 1:11 PM

It’s definitely my dream to toss a baby off of the Golden Gate Bridge.

by Anonymousreply 440July 13, 2019 1:12 PM

Such lofty ambitions, r440.

by Anonymousreply 441July 13, 2019 1:18 PM

R420, are you also r206?

by Anonymousreply 442July 13, 2019 1:19 PM

I think R206 said it first (and better), and R420 didn't bother to read the entire thread before posting.

by Anonymousreply 443July 13, 2019 2:12 PM

[quote]It’s definitely my dream to toss a baby off of the Golden Gate Bridge.

by Anonymousreply 444July 13, 2019 2:52 PM

*LYNDE

by Anonymousreply 445July 13, 2019 2:52 PM

Can the Replicunts go to a Concentration Camp and pick up a new Princess ?

by Anonymousreply 446July 13, 2019 3:33 PM

R415 getting a lot of mileage out of that "dropped pie" line here on the DL, aren't you?

by Anonymousreply 447July 13, 2019 5:47 PM

Grandpa may have just been throwing out the bathwater and being old, forgot the admonition.

by Anonymousreply 448July 13, 2019 11:39 PM

Who is that at r427? No clue.

by Anonymousreply 449July 14, 2019 6:34 PM

Don't ask, r449, the "dropped pie" troll will go off.

by Anonymousreply 450July 14, 2019 11:58 PM

Thanks, r450.

by Anonymousreply 451July 15, 2019 2:01 AM

When is the funeral?

by Anonymousreply 452July 15, 2019 9:09 AM

R452, Suggestion for the processional.

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by Anonymousreply 453July 15, 2019 9:13 AM

R452, burial at sea.

by Anonymousreply 454July 15, 2019 11:49 AM

[quote]Suggestion for the processional

Or this:

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by Anonymousreply 455July 15, 2019 11:52 PM

If grandpa was tucking, he may have ooped, triggering an involuntary launch of the baby. All possibilities must be examined.

by Anonymousreply 456July 16, 2019 12:21 AM

Out The Window

by Anonymousreply 457July 16, 2019 4:30 AM

Whoops, indeed. Major fail.

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by Anonymousreply 458July 16, 2019 4:30 AM

Entirely too much time has been given to the investigation. THE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE REPORT!

And proceed to trial.

by Anonymousreply 459July 16, 2019 4:32 AM

R428 , I think he looks sinister. You can have him.

by Anonymousreply 460July 16, 2019 4:48 AM

We’re here for you, Carnival Cruise.

by Anonymousreply 461July 16, 2019 12:59 PM

Anyone who goes on one of these cruises deserves anything that happens to them while on said cruise.

by Anonymousreply 462July 16, 2019 1:26 PM

R462 that's a bit extreme. What if they won the casino jackpot?

by Anonymousreply 463July 16, 2019 1:32 PM

Or simply were a cruise ship entertainer??

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by Anonymousreply 464July 16, 2019 5:33 PM

I cried because I had no shoes. Then I saw a woman having to dance in wooden ones.

by Anonymousreply 465July 16, 2019 5:38 PM

Ok, I’ll say it:

Pinocchio is hot in that pic.

by Anonymousreply 466July 16, 2019 5:49 PM

R464 name of the twink?

by Anonymousreply 467July 16, 2019 7:15 PM

R464 name of the twink?

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by Anonymousreply 469July 22, 2019 3:02 PM

The mother is... Unfortunate looking

by Anonymousreply 470July 22, 2019 3:02 PM

Basically this except replace the hole with imagined sacks of money from the cruise line, GoFundMe, and payments from Daily Mail.

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by Anonymousreply 471July 22, 2019 3:05 PM

Why do I have to live in an age where everyone, even "grieving" mothers, give interviews? It's vile.

by Anonymousreply 472July 22, 2019 6:58 PM

Update.

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by Anonymousreply 473July 22, 2019 7:42 PM

Will Chloe know grandpa’s name if she saw him in heaven?

by Anonymousreply 474July 22, 2019 7:46 PM

"Unfathomable" NBC can cunt like the Daily Mail when it wants to!

by Anonymousreply 475July 22, 2019 7:46 PM

That family is VERY lucky that Puerto Rico is distracted by the governor scandal and can't go after grandpa with those manslaughter charges!

by Anonymousreply 476July 22, 2019 7:55 PM

Oh, so now baby Chloe fell?

by Anonymousreply 477July 22, 2019 8:02 PM

Look what happened to YOUR baby!

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by Anonymousreply 478July 22, 2019 8:09 PM

What do you guys think? Now that the "grieving" mother even had the opportunity to blame Royal Caribean on national TV, will they get their big payday? Just to shut them up? Some of her statements were too funny. Of course they don't blame grandpa, it was totally RC fault. And the noise the toddler made when she fell out of the window.....we need at least a couple of millions to get over this horrible experience.

by Anonymousreply 479July 22, 2019 8:47 PM

Not to speak ill of the dead, but whew! That is one unfortunate looking child.

by Anonymousreply 480July 22, 2019 9:27 PM

How much past experience did Gramps have with the kid one on one?

Gramps is the wife's father. I'd love to know how the husband honestly feels about him.

by Anonymousreply 481July 22, 2019 9:29 PM

I hope there is some way that Royal Caribbean can get a judgement against the mother and family for their reckless defamation. Grandpa caused the kid's death, period.

by Anonymousreply 482July 22, 2019 9:37 PM

Allegedly there's video evidence of the incident. They need to release it, but do it like those Canadian cops and use the dog filter and add some hilarious sound effects.

by Anonymousreply 483July 22, 2019 9:39 PM

I can't even imagine how horrible it must be for these people, especially since it was such a stupid, completely avoidable thing to do. Gramps is completely at fault.

by Anonymousreply 484July 22, 2019 9:47 PM

RC needs a Perry Masón type attorney to foil the family's get rich quick scheme. Get Grandpa to confess while on the stand.

by Anonymousreply 485July 22, 2019 9:47 PM

R485 or Elle Woods

by Anonymousreply 486July 22, 2019 9:59 PM

[quote]r472 Why do I have to live in an age where everyone, even "grieving" mothers, give interviews? It's vile.

[italic]"I just know that she was destined to do such great things. But even in her short life, I truly believe she changed so many lives."[/italic]

Okay, mom. Simmer down. She wasn't all THAT!

by Anonymousreply 487July 22, 2019 10:03 PM

[quote]Why on earth is there a window open on the 11th floor without a screen or anything?

The toddler didn’t crawl out that open window, or even reach it by climbing. She was placed in a ledge in front of it, by a careless adult. The grandfather and the money-grubbing parents need to take some personal responsibility rather than looking to hold anyone but themselves accountable. It’s not the cruise line’s fault.

by Anonymousreply 488July 22, 2019 10:13 PM

I hope that they take this opportunity to do some good in the world and raise awareness of the dangers of open windows.

by Anonymousreply 489July 22, 2019 10:15 PM

Agree R472. And while I don’t doubt they’re grieving I can’t imagine parents I know going through this and being so quickly on board with a major PR campaign and legal strategy.

by Anonymousreply 490July 22, 2019 10:16 PM

What will probably happen is the cruise lines insurance company will pay them something, (not the amount the family wants) if they sign an agreement that the cruise line is not at fault and they go away. The family lawyers will take a chunk of the settlement and taxes will take another bite.

by Anonymousreply 491July 22, 2019 10:27 PM

Why back in they day, we Hoosiers always hung our toddlers out of windows and balconies whatever

by Anonymousreply 492July 22, 2019 10:30 PM

Is there a photo of this railing/window where grandpa thought there was safety glass?

by Anonymousreply 493July 22, 2019 10:31 PM

Can you tell which windows are open?

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by Anonymousreply 494July 22, 2019 10:43 PM

It's possible grampa was blind and deaf and had no sense of touch so he couldn't feel the breeze or smell the sea air.

by Anonymousreply 495July 22, 2019 10:46 PM

Even Helen Keller never dropped a baby out a window.

by Anonymousreply 496July 22, 2019 10:48 PM

Helen Keller wasn't an old drunk.

by Anonymousreply 497July 22, 2019 10:50 PM

In Gramps's defense, they had just been serving delicious buttered toast in the breakfast room on Lido Deck.

by Anonymousreply 498July 22, 2019 11:02 PM

[quote] Allegedly there's video evidence of the incident. They need to release it, but do it like those Canadian cops and use the dog filter and add some hilarious sound effects.

They can use "Yackety-Sax" (aka "The Benny hill Show Theme") as the soundtrack.

by Anonymousreply 499July 22, 2019 11:04 PM

They could show the video like Instagram Boomerang, and then the baby flying back up to the window will make it not seem so bad to the jury.

by Anonymousreply 500July 22, 2019 11:10 PM

This is the way they did it back in the day. Plenty of fresh air and nary a dead baby.

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by Anonymousreply 501July 22, 2019 11:12 PM

Someone posted on some other site that they were on this boat and the area was not a "childrens play area" at all. Anyone know anything about that boat?

by Anonymousreply 502July 22, 2019 11:31 PM

R502 I’ve been on it. There is a kids pool area in the middle and on the sides are seating areas by the windows. It’s not an area kids would typically be in much as it’s tables and chairs where adults usually sit and hang out.

by Anonymousreply 503July 22, 2019 11:34 PM

The windows look obviously open to me.

by Anonymousreply 504July 22, 2019 11:43 PM

I don't see how, between Gramps and RC, Grandpa's less than 80% responsible. If the family really wants justice for the kid, they should ad Grandpa to the lawsuit. Take his retirement.

by Anonymousreply 505July 23, 2019 12:21 AM

Gramps tossed that kid for a payday.

by Anonymousreply 506July 23, 2019 12:52 AM

We're proud Hoosier Republicans! So much government overreach. So many illegals coming to OUR country wanting a handout. We're a bootstrappin' folk.

Where's our millions???

by Anonymousreply 507July 23, 2019 1:43 AM

I'm surprised that fat-ass kid at r501 didn't cause that cage to collapse.

by Anonymousreply 508July 23, 2019 4:20 AM

The parents said on TODAY that Gramps has been inconsolable since the incident, yet he looked fine arriving in Chicago the other day.

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by Anonymousreply 509July 23, 2019 5:06 AM

Can I have her stuff?

by Anonymousreply 510July 23, 2019 5:06 AM

The parents blame the cruise line and not the grandfather. Cash grab.

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by Anonymousreply 511July 23, 2019 5:20 AM

[quote]How much past experience did Gramps have with the kid one on one?

The father says in the video that the baby was the Grandpa's best friend. Really? A baby was the old man's best friend?

by Anonymousreply 512July 23, 2019 5:24 AM

creepy - -

by Anonymousreply 513July 23, 2019 5:45 AM

Friends don't toss friends onto concrete.

by Anonymousreply 514July 23, 2019 5:46 AM

I also would love to know what the cop dad says behind closed doors about his wife's father who dropped the baby . My dad loves his grandkids but my mom (grandma) is the one who watches them, where was grandma when grandpa was holding the baby in the window?

by Anonymousreply 515July 23, 2019 5:51 AM

Even if the window were closed, it still seems like an incredibly stupid and dangerous idea to let the baby lean against the glass and bang bang bang away.

by Anonymousreply 516July 23, 2019 9:33 AM

The only thing they deserve is a bill from the cruise line for all the problems they have caused.

by Anonymousreply 517July 23, 2019 1:27 PM

I’m sure mama will be pregnant with a replacement grief baby soon and it will have a sad, sucky life. Like Jan Brady on steroids. Chloe! Chloe! Chloe!

by Anonymousreply 518July 23, 2019 1:37 PM

Birf Certifications: “Chloetoo”

Kids in 1st grade: “Cthulhu“

by Anonymousreply 519July 23, 2019 1:48 PM

Chloe is a deadname. I hope they pick something else for the grief baby.

by Anonymousreply 520July 23, 2019 2:00 PM

Name the grief baby Ventana

by Anonymousreply 521July 23, 2019 2:06 PM

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by Anonymousreply 522July 23, 2019 3:13 PM

[quote]Name the grief baby Ventana

Fenestra or Fenêtre would also be nice.

by Anonymousreply 523July 23, 2019 3:21 PM

I vote for Clerestory. Or Bay.

by Anonymousreply 524July 23, 2019 3:32 PM

Geronimo if it’s a boy.

by Anonymousreply 525July 23, 2019 3:46 PM

I think the new baby should have the same name as the cruise ship.

by Anonymousreply 526July 23, 2019 3:51 PM

[quote]Why on earth is there a window open on the 11th floor without a screen or anything?

With this logic, there should be no openings anywhere on the ship. No balconies, no outer deck with railings, no opening windows. Just seal the whole thing shut because some idiot could hold a child up to it and lose their grip. We all need to pay for others' lack of common sense.

by Anonymousreply 527July 23, 2019 4:39 PM

Won't anyone think of MY grief?!

by Anonymousreply 528July 23, 2019 5:06 PM

Pfft, I've had way more babies dropped on me.

by Anonymousreply 529July 23, 2019 5:31 PM

That toddler was way too old to be wearing a headband to distract from her baldness. Was there a recent medical diagnosis that would have cost the family a lot of money in their future?

by Anonymousreply 530July 23, 2019 5:39 PM

Another name suggestion:

Loteria de la BasuraBlanca

by Anonymousreply 531July 23, 2019 6:12 PM

Nancy Grace is needed for this. Pronto.

What names will she come up with? Drop Pop?

by Anonymousreply 532July 23, 2019 6:14 PM

The family's attorney seems like a snake.

by Anonymousreply 533July 23, 2019 10:44 PM

[quote] The couple had met with Justice Department officials on Tuesday and similarly refused to give witness statements, claiming they were on a different part of the ship when Chloe fell and didn't see anything.

[quote] DailyMail.com can reveal they were also then given the opportunity to view a 'high quality' video of their daughter's final moments captured from an onboard camera - but were too distraught to watch.

You'd think they would have at least taken a little peek. Chances to re-live something like that don't just come every day.

by Anonymousreply 534July 23, 2019 10:50 PM

[quote] Fenestra or Fenêtre would also be nice.

In this case, DeFenestratia would be the most appropriate choice.

by Anonymousreply 535July 23, 2019 10:51 PM

I cannot determine which thread is in worst taste: this one or the Chris Watts one.

by Anonymousreply 536July 23, 2019 11:03 PM

[bold]#LeaveChrisAlone

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by Anonymousreply 537July 23, 2019 11:20 PM

R533, This case is right up Michael Avenatti's alley.

by Anonymousreply 538July 23, 2019 11:30 PM

The Chris Burrous threads are equally ....irreverent ...Went on for months. Seriously , this group looks like a family of grifters.

by Anonymousreply 539July 24, 2019 1:36 AM

I suppose it would be in poor taste for the mother to have a "baby overboard" sign on her car.

by Anonymousreply 540July 24, 2019 1:43 AM

Someone needs to make a universal warning sign showing the danger of dropping your baby overboard!

by Anonymousreply 541July 24, 2019 1:45 AM

If grandpa were asked if he gained any weight on the cruise, he could honestly say that he "dropped a few pounds".

by Anonymousreply 542July 24, 2019 1:50 AM

What was on Gramps's iPod?

"Baby Come Back" -- Player

by Anonymousreply 543July 24, 2019 2:31 AM

My dead baby haunts the jacuzzi and predicts Emmy winners.

by Anonymousreply 544July 24, 2019 5:45 AM
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by Anonymousreply 545July 24, 2019 11:02 AM

Isn't the mother a lawyer? If so, she sure flipped the switch from grieving, shocked mother to lawyer mode pretty quick.

by Anonymousreply 546July 24, 2019 3:51 PM

[quote]The toddler didn’t crawl out that open window, or even reach it by climbing. She was placed in a ledge in front of it, by a careless adult.

Exactly. There's no way any child would have been endangered by that open window without an adult to life her up to it and drop her out of it. And yes, if you go by the logic that "there shouldn't be an open window" in that area, then every deck, every balcony, every rail on the ship would have to be enclosed in plexiglass, or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 547July 24, 2019 4:31 PM

[quote] There's no way any child would have been endangered by that open window without an adult to life her up to it and drop her out of it.

But it's more fun that way!

by Anonymousreply 548July 24, 2019 4:39 PM

Not teaching little girls important life lessons would just be bad parenting. They need to learn: There is such a thing as gravity. There are consequences if you eat an extra pineapple slice.

by Anonymousreply 549July 24, 2019 6:13 PM

Any new information?

by Anonymousreply 550August 11, 2019 8:21 AM

The family has gone quiet as I suspect they are trying to get a settlement from the Royal Caribbean. Royal Caribbean may play hardball and that is when the video and witness testimony will be made public to support that Grampy had been drinking and caused the child to be dropped to its death.

by Anonymousreply 551August 11, 2019 2:31 PM

[quote]Not teaching little girls important life lessons would just be bad parenting. They need to learn: There is such a thing as gravity. There are consequences if you eat an extra pineapple slice.

Leave it to the pros, R549.

by Anonymousreply 552August 11, 2019 2:44 PM

Over 50 years ago when I was about 12 I was walking through our little local shopping center and witnessed one woman holding another's infant. When she handed the baby back to the mother she let go before the mother got a good grip on her baby.

The baby fell directly to the pavement, flat on its back and the back of its head hit hard. The women screamed and the mother quickly picked it up. That image haunts me to this day and I wonder if the baby was permanently injured.

What a terrible thing for both women to live with, especially the idiot woman who let go before the mother was firmly holding the kid. Stupid bitch.

by Anonymousreply 553August 14, 2019 6:45 PM

^ They were standing and facing each other.

by Anonymousreply 554August 14, 2019 6:45 PM

R553 = Lorrie Moore

by Anonymousreply 555August 15, 2019 12:28 AM

We only want Justice(!) for our little girl.

by Anonymousreply 556August 15, 2019 3:04 AM

R555, not fiction. True story.

by Anonymousreply 557August 15, 2019 5:11 AM

Has anything new happened in this case? I haven't seen anything.

by Anonymousreply 558September 25, 2019 10:02 AM

Charges for Grandpa...

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by Anonymousreply 559October 29, 2019 12:15 AM

r559 Good. The law's the law. Though I'm sure he won't see a day in prison, unless the child's mother wants to see that.

by Anonymousreply 560October 29, 2019 12:20 AM

It would seem that not pressing charges would greatly reduce the family's payout from the cruise company.

by Anonymousreply 561October 29, 2019 1:09 PM

He should be charged. The cruise line wasn't at fault.

by Anonymousreply 562October 29, 2019 1:54 PM

Just saw on Inside Edition they are still suing the cruise ship for something that was Grandpa's fault

by Anonymousreply 563December 11, 2019 11:45 PM

Just saw the clip from the news conference and they are suing Royal Caribbean. They said they are angry but they are taking it out on the wrong thing.

by Anonymousreply 564December 11, 2019 11:47 PM

You're all being very hard on the grandfather. For all we know, he had just been eating buttered toast.

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by Anonymousreply 566December 19, 2019 10:03 AM

He lifts the baby up and out, then drops it. Fucking idiot. .

by Anonymousreply 567December 19, 2019 10:51 AM

The video quality is really bad, but didn't he look out the open window for a few seconds BEFORE he lifts the baby up and drops her? How can he still claim he did not know the window was open? Prosecutors offered him a plea deal so doesn't have to go to jail, but he has to admit his guilt. His lawyer said he is not considering it and wants a jury trial. Bet his family is still hoping for a big pay day/settlement from Royal Caribbean.

by Anonymousreply 568December 19, 2019 11:41 AM

He stuck his head out the window and looked down, then picked her up. Lying!

by Anonymousreply 569December 19, 2019 12:58 PM

The video makes Grandpa's culpability clear. They are greedy morons if they continue to reject the generous plea deal that's been offered.

by Anonymousreply 570December 19, 2019 12:59 PM

Hope Santa brings r568 new glasses for Xmas. The video clearly proves the grandfather knew the window was open. Not only that, that was a very long time to dangle an infant. Even MJ didn't dangle his child that long.

by Anonymousreply 571December 19, 2019 1:02 PM

^WTF? Did you even read my post before making such a bs statement?

by Anonymousreply 572December 19, 2019 1:16 PM

What post? Identify yourself!

by Anonymousreply 573December 19, 2019 1:23 PM

Probably the one you marked, genius.

by Anonymousreply 574December 19, 2019 1:59 PM

Guilty!

by Anonymousreply 575December 19, 2019 2:42 PM

R568, you are the grandpa! R571, You are the liar!

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by Anonymousreply 576December 20, 2019 3:29 AM

Grandpa pleads guilty

by Anonymousreply 577February 27, 2020 5:50 AM

He's one of those who told the media, "I don't care what the sentence would be — nothing could be worse than what I put myself through."

Then why plead not guilty and then cop to a guilty plea when the video surfaces?

And if "nothing could be worse," then by all means serve the sentence, Paw-Paw Dropsy.

by Anonymousreply 578February 27, 2020 5:55 AM

This past holiday season must have shown Grandpa that a few holidays away from his family's anger stares might not be so bad.

Were the parent's waiting to get pregnant with a do-over child until they could get a settlement?

by Anonymousreply 579February 27, 2020 12:19 PM
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