I was Fat Shamed on an Atlantis Gay Cruise--Just purrrrrrfect!

Should've gone on a bear cruise, tubby

Fictitious blogging posted in February 19, 2016. This never happened.

[quote]You see, I’m one of those gay men that happens to have love handles. No, I’m not obese or anything like that. I guess I would fit into the heavy cub territory?

Problem #1: Delusional

You're FAT, Helen!

It's Rose, hon. Rose.

If he had embraced the jokes and and have fun with it they probably would have all had a good time and maybe even one of the drunk jocks would have ended up doing a little fooling around with jiggles.

Instead of winning people over with confidence and a sense of humor, he was just super defensive and insecure.

[quote]Our Atlantis cruise was set to sail in March, which gave me roughly six months to get myself into better shape. I knew I wasn’t going to completely get rid of my love handles but I could, at least, reduce them to something respectable.

Problem #2: Undisciplined

ANYONE can make MAJOR changes in 12 weeks and it isn't as hard as one would think. You just have to be disciplined.

It's Thelma, but she knew she was fat.

[quote]By the time our trip rolled around, I had made significant progress. I was down to a 35 – which was one size smaller than what I had hoped. Yes, I still had a muffin top but it wasn’t pouring over my belt like Niagara Falls anymore. I was proud of myself.

Problem #3: Liar

Poor thing lies to himself....

Why does he care so much?

Try developing some self-confidence.

WHAT?

We love everyone. We even love the painted people!

If he wanted to enjoy himself after spending 4 thousand dollars then he shouldn't look like this

I've been on lots of cruises. There are all types of guys. Scene queens, Bears, etc. I'm going on a gay cruise in late August on the Oasis Of The Seas.

I watched the documentary on the European gay cruise. Dream Boat. There were PLENTY Of flabbies. Perhaps he chose the wrong cruise with the wrong crowd. I still doubt American gay men would be, FACE TO FACE, such vocal fat-shaming bitches.

Be best!

Disagree r11. Everyone on that cruise is not ripped, that's absurd. There are plenty of guys with bodies like his that I am sure a good time.

He was feeling insecure about it from get to, it's that insecurity that would guarantee he had a bad time. Just have fun and be comfortable in your own skin.

He was looking for a reason to be offended and claim victim status.

[quote]we noticed four guys getting out of a cab. Immediately you could tell they were going to be on our gay cruise ship – they were loud, obnoxious and super Nellie. Even though chiffon was coming out of their mouths as they shouted and laughed at one another, they were all hot.

Problem #4: He can dish it out but he can't take it.

Grow a pair, Dorothy....

I don’t see why someone should feel they need to lose weight to be accepted or feel comfortable.

However, I don’t have much sympathy for him. His blog makes loads of judgemental comments about the different types of people he encounters. He is exactly the type of person who would judge a fat person if he was a Muscle Mary.

I’ll judge that cruise. It sounds utterly vile and full of nasty cunts who focus their lives on their bodies, then get drugged up most of the week and have loads of unsafe sex. That ship would be a floating STI

Keep that shit covered up.

Also, they were slapping his body to make the fat jiggle? Is there security on these ships or is it a junior high school locker room? Report the assault and have those fuckers thrown off the boat.

Look on the bright side. That - ALL THAT - is your camel's hump. When the apocalypse hits, you'll live a month or longer off that while watching others drop like flies.

Now let's all join hands for a rousing rendition of "Look for the silver lining......."

Trapped on a ship with a bunch of narcissistic party queens? Ugh! No!

[quote]Adam talked me into going with him to one of these parties. He must have felt bad because, during the first three days at sea, he had more people in our room than I can remember. And that doesn’t count the numerous hours he spent in the sauna area in group scenes. Our cabin seriously smelled like poppers and stank like a bathhouse with all the traffic.

Problem #5: Jealousy

It's such an ugly trait....

Good for Adam! It sounds as if he had a blast!

He should have said he is a trans woman and then report them all for sexual harassment and abuse of a straight female.

Yarr! Tis a whiny thing isn't she? The high seas require a confidence in one's body.

I honestly think the slapping his body was not trying to make him feel bad, I can picture guys doing that trying to have fun with him, people generally aren't that evil. But he couldn't take a joke and reacted poorly.

R26 I’ve got a belly and am overweight. I’d be quite turned on if a bunch of shirtless ripped men all started slapping my belly. I’d tell them if you think my belly wobbles you should see my bare ass move when that’s slapped!

[quote]If you are overweight or have even a small muffin top, you probably aren’t going to be getting any. Well, I take that back. You might if they're boozed up.

Problem #6: MARY!

MARY!!!!

I've been on 9 gay cruises since 2009 I've NEVER had any ACTION on any of them. Oh well. Maybe my luck will change with this upcoming cruise.

[quote]Is there security on these ships or is it a junior high school locker room? Report the assault and have those fuckers thrown off the boat.

Have you ever been to these types of gay dance parties? It's not a middle school dance, everybody is touching each other. It's a feature, not a bug.

If you are afraid of some hands, it ain't your scene.

Adam and guests....

"I won’t bore you with"

Too late!

>It's a feature, not a bug.

Sometimes it's a bug too

OP should have marched directly over to the Pizza bar, ordered a 12 incher with double pep and double cheese, brought it back among the hot body club, and luciously, lasciviously devoured it right in front of them. Those bitches are STARVING!

"Mark" sounds like a real loser and it has nothing to do with his body type. Get over your adolescence, hun, you're an adult.

9 cruises x 4000 per cruise = 36000

36000/ 1 escort @ 300 per hour = 120 escorts.

Stop wasting money and go for the sure thing R12/R29.

marry me, problem troll.

for our honeymoon, we can go on a gay cruise during which you may slap my ass and ride the wave in.

[quote]I’ll judge that cruise. It sounds utterly vile and full of nasty cunts who focus their lives on their bodies, then get drugged up most of the week and have loads of unsafe sex.

(eyes widen) And, what cruise is this? I'm just asking for a friend...

I hate the author of the article but I love Problem Troll.

For real r36. For the money he is dropping on all those cruises you can rent a penthouse suite and fill it with the hot rent boys.

OH! And, look who was on the boat!

R36 and R40- You are both probably right, but I don't go on these cruises for sex I go on them to see the sights. I am single so of course I would like to have some ACTION.

[quote]I've been on 9 gay cruises since 2009 I've NEVER had any ACTION on any of them. Oh well. Maybe my luck will change with this upcoming cruise.

You should go on a Disney Cruise. Tons of straight married guys who can’t wait to ditch their family for an hour of “male bonding”.

759 Trans Women of Color were literally MURDERED during the time it took this Cis-Privileged fatso to post this sob story.

Won’t somebody please think of the real victims here???

[quote] You should go on a Disney Cruise. Tons of straight married guys who can’t wait to ditch their family for an hour of “male bonding”.

You don't say!

[quote]I hate the author of the article but I love Problem Troll.

I'm NOT Problem Troll!

I DEMAND my credit!!!!

I want my 15 minutes of fame!

MURIEL!

R44... While I sympathize, perhaps you should start your own thread as opposed to hijacking this one.

[quote]No, I’m not obese or anything like that.

Yeah, because they're gross, right?

That cruise in the article sounds a total rip off!

The better deal would be to allow 50% of the passengers to be hot muscle guys and they go free, then make all the other guys pay full fair. However, the muscle guys are forced to earn their stay by being available 24/7 to the paying guests!!

Why doesn't Jiggles just go back to the buffet and leave the shirtlessness to his whorish friend and the other losers who go to dance parties on a boat? Go hard on that seafood bar instead Miss Thing!!

I feel sorry for his slut friend. It must be difficult hauling around that fat load of self pity day in and day out.

[quote]Once the cruise was over and we got back to Minneapolis, I didn’t talk to him for a long time. And my sense was that he didn’t want to talk to me either. Not because he was mad at me but because it was all super uncomfortable.

Problem #7: BITCH

Honey, Adam was screwing all over Minneapolis while you stewed in your own lard.

There's no fun being around deathfat old farts. And they stink!!!! Meh!

[quote]I will say that if you want to go on a gay cruise, you will probably have a good time. I mean what happened to me is probably an outlier because there were plenty of guys who weren’t built like an Adonis.

Problem #8: Not staying in your lane/Opportunist

But, did he try to meet the "plenty of guys who weren't built like Adonis?" Noooooo..... The fat bitch thought that he could roll with Adam and get the crumbs. OPPORTUNIST!

Honey,Id have waded right on in and plopped my fat ass right in the middle of those stuck up bitches and paid them zero mind. I have never given a fig what some other bitch thought about me or my looks.Coincidentally,Ive had way more than my share of good looking guys soooo...

[quote]Honey,Id have waded right on in and plopped my fat ass right in the middle of those stuck up bitches and paid them zero mind. I have never given a fig what some other bitch thought about me or my looks.

Besides, the prime rib melted in your mouth. DELICIOUS!

Was there no one on board for LOVE?!

[quote]We welcome everyone. We even welcome the painted people!

......

And in FWENCH!

[quote] I had enough and bolted away as fast as I could. I didn’t even bother looking for my shirt, which was probably somewhere on the deck being trampled on. I just ran like crazy and made it back to our cabin. Adam returned about 10 minutes after I arrived and spent the rest of the night apologizing to me. He told me that the wolves were likely high on X and to not take it personally. But how could I not?

r42--

There's only one way to deal with mean girls.

He should have taken his tip from Mary Catherine Gallagher.

I'd fuck him

What you have r27 and r55 is a little bit of self confidence and not looking for a reason to get upset like this guy was.

Confidence and a sense of humor seriously go a long way.

[quote]Honey,Id have waded right on in and plopped my fat ass right in the middle of those stuck up bitches and paid them zero mind. Coincidentally,Ive had way more than my share of good looking guys soooo...

Ya know... Hmm... For some reason I could believe that...

E.S.T.

[quote]“If he didn’t want to be made fun of then maybe he should lose some weight. Why don’t you and your friend Jiggles get lost!”

I don't believe grown men would be over-the-top mean girls like this. Methinks we have a CLICKBAIT CLICKWHORE making shit up!

[quote]I don't believe grown men would be over-the-top mean girls like this

Have you MET us?

[quote]Yeah, the whole fat shaming thing kind of ruined the trip. I didn’t even get go on any excursions – which kind of sucked because I wanted to go to St. Barts.

LIES!

I know this type. I went on a Carnival Cruise once--THAT will never happen again, and we went to some beautiful destinations. Did you know that Carnival's average passenger book cruises so that they can eat? I had NEVER seen anything like that! I've been on a number of cruises and NEVER had I seen such a thing!

They don't get off of the boat because many of them simply can't. They just enjoy being on a cruise and stuffing their mouths all day.

[quote]They just enjoy being on a cruise and stuffing their mouths all day.

It is good to know what one likes, r68.

[quote]Adam tried to comfort me. It’s not that I was playing the victim card or anything but I just was pissed at him … for talking me on the trip … for the attention he had been receiving … and for the dance party incident.

[quote]Trapped on a ship with a bunch of narcissistic party queens? Ugh! No!

But, we want everyone to come. We love everyone. We even love the col... the painted people!

r71 all those bathing suits, and nobody in the pool? i suppose skinny-dipping is forbidden?

When I'm served up a big ole helping of attytude, I serve it right back, in spades.

Fuck all of these basic beyotches.

Next time try RSVP, dear.

^ Oh, that crowd is too old for our damsel in distress...

Besides, if you want to see picky, there's nothing worse than a single middle aged gay man. At least the young ones have some basis for playing Noah's ark.

R76-You're right. A lot of these middle aged queens still think it's 1995 and they're still HOT.

from the story: Our cabin seriously smelled like poppers and stank like a bathhouse with all the traffic... To keep it real, the only “action” I received was when a really drunk twink invited me into his cabin. In fact, he was so messed up that he could hardly keep his eyes open. We made out a little and I ended up leaving. But at least it was something.

This guy is pathetic. No self respect. And I say that as somebody who doesn't have the body to get anything and everything.... but that's the reality and I accept that... it isn't what I want for myself anyway.

[quote]I will say that whenever we go out in public, I often feel like I’m his DUFF – you know, the Designated Ugly Fat Friend.

BECAUSE YOU ARE, BLANCHE! YOU ARE!!!

SHALLOW LIVES MATTER!!

Seriously, a gay man getting laid is not that much of an accomplishment.

But a gay man NOT getting laid is a travesty and warrants multiple essays and thinkpieces.

This never happened. I have never seen guys in a cruise gay shame anyone. In fact, on cruises I’ve been on, while many are the muscular type, most actually aren’t

Is the only goal in life for these men to have lots and lots of sex with random people?

[quote] I have never seen guys in a cruise gay shame anyone.

No, they'd have to speak to him to do it.

[quote] I have never seen guys in a cruise gay shame anyone. In fact, on cruises I’ve been on, while many are the muscular type, most actually aren’t

You see? All are welcomed. Even the ......... people.

The ironic thing is, there were probably tons of men on that cruise with his body type, but he was too superficial to even notice them. And has then thrown a queenie strop when none of the muscle men wanted him.

There were, R87. He even writes about that in his blathering. But, he is your typical DLer. He wants them young, hung, masculine, and ripped. Meanwhile, all he brings to the table is the cheese cake.

[quote]The next morning we got up and decided to have a chill day. Basically, we walked around Old San Juan and visited all of the cute little shops that line the hilly streets. And let me tell you, those streets aren’t easy to walk. The only thing that got me through it were the occasional stops we would make to look at crap.

WHEW! That must have been a HARD 6 months of conditioning and training for this cruise!

[quote]That and Puerto Rican boys that seemed to be everywhere. I swear, all of them have huge bananas in their pockets.

PIG! (and not in a good way either!)

Fat shaming is unproductive and mean, but why not try to get fit. I'll be damned if I'm going to spend 4k to go on a gay cruise and not get my ass in shape. Like, he had to know how shallow gay, no all people, are when it comes to hookups. Why didn't he diet and exercise. Why must other people accept him and his fat, when there are other men that dedicated hours to the gym and sacrificed fun food for a diet? He may feel bad but he should think about the guys with real physical handicaps. They are the ones being shunned without an opportunity to fix through diet and exercise. This is like guys showing up to clubs in their 2005 Hollister shirts and cargo shorts, like bitch, do better.

[quote] Fat shaming is unproductive and mean

But I'll write a whole paragraph doing just that. Can't you have any compassion for this guy's fake story R90? He wants his cake and muscle boys too!

Who would have thunk there would be PR boys everywhere.... in PR!

r90 but I wasn't shaming him, I was asking questions why he would put himself into that situation.

“‘Man’ ... I mean ‘Tubitha’ overboard!”

I do not hold with other people being mean girls. But, let me be a mean girl myself at great and extended length! Having said I do not hold with mean girls makes it okay for me to do so.

r95 it wasn't mean. It was perspective. I mean, the guys I see bravely going to gay clubs in wheelchairs are some the people that have a real complaint about their experiences. This dud is just fat. Fat can come off through diet and exercise, so he needs a little perspective. I wonder how many overweight men he hit on during this cruise.

If he is so focused on his love handles that 4k would have been better spent on liposuction, Also hairy men get away with a few extra lbs better than a smooth man .

In a related story, Bigger Vegas is happening right now!

I don't get it. He is, by his own admission, shall we say "not in shape." He goes on a cruise with his friend who is, by his own admission, "very good looking" and from the picture has a hot body and big dick. And now she wants to bitch that her friend got tons of hookups (while he got none) and he was fat-shamed by guys who looked liked his friend? Why didn't the bitch go hang out with the other guys who, be her own admission, weren't the Muscle Marys? I have no sympathy.

r99 when will people stop allowing themselves to be the designated ugly fat friend? Not saying he is bad looking, because I don't know, but if your friends all look better than you and they are also single, then expect to be eclipsed by them. Either find an uglier friend or come in with the correct expectations. It's sad, but true. Or have the bomb personality and act confident as hell.

I agree with you, R100. What did this guy expect? Did he really ever think he was going to have guys swarming all over him like his friend? If so, he's terminally delusional.

The right way to have responded.

[quote] Did he really ever think he was going to have guys swarming all over him like his friend?

She lost weight! Didn't you read the article? She went from a waist "38" to ""35". Oh, boy! She's hot-looking now!

There is a difference between being mad because you were mocked douchey locker-room style just for dancing, and being mad because you want guys to hook up with you. I agree that he needs to stop being so god damn self pitying though.

You gotta love how R5 immediately went into blaming the victim and defending the bullies.

You know exactly what kind of person R5 is.

Not a good one.

He should have asked to speak to the manager.

So he arrived 2 days early and the ship was already in port? This is obviously a piece of fiction. Cruise ships are in port for hours, not days

>I swear, all of them have huge bananas in their pockets.

What an immature, ammature attempt at "writing." Ugh.

He should have gone here:

The private Bahamas resort designed for plus-size people

King was inspired to set up The Resort 15 years ago, while working at a hotel in Grenada after witnessing a female hotel guest sit on a beach chair "and literally go through it." The embarrassed woman was subsequently charged $150 dollars for damaging hotel property.

Never happened, I've been on many many Atlantis cruises, have found everyone nice, polite and engaging. There are all ages, all body types and no one gives a shit.

>ammature

I'll "oh dear" myself... Jesus. Last time I multitask while typing something here

Our honeymoon was on a gay cruise to the Mexican Riviera

A month after me and my husband married, when I was 24, we went on a gay cruise for our honeymoon along the Mexican Riviera, departing from Los Angeles to Cabo, Mazatlán and Puerto Vallarta.

At the time, I think the insecurities of my youth prevented me from being comfortable.

I was in decent shape back then, and was generally happy with my appearance, but I did have the feeling I’d somehow ‘missed the mark’ on what it was to be sexually attractive – here, at least.

It seemed like half the boat had spend the entire year in the gym preparing for these two weeks.

My confidence in my appearance took a nosedive. However, we still met plenty of new like minded friends from the US from San Francisco to New York, Washington DC and Chicago that I’ll never forget.

Was he really shamed if he's still fat now? Doesn't sound like it was very effective shaming.

This is all fake.

Great big fat sweaty back.

[quote]Never happened, I've been on many many Atlantis cruises, have found everyone nice, polite and engaging. There are all ages, all body types and no one gives a shit.

And, EVERYONE is welcomed! Right?

Really difficult to find a person of color in that crowd though...

r117 that's because we've had enough experience in the gay clubs to subject ourselves to a floating vessel of rejection. At 4k, and I can't leave? Hard pass!

Buying a ticket for such a cruise doesn't mean that you, a generous 4, are entitled to having total strangers, who are 9s and 10s, as BFFs on the cruise. If you want to create that fantasy you have to hire actors or escorts to come with you treating you like a Queen Bee.

Letting others define you is the problem. If they called me jiggles I would lean over and tell them "I have a 12 inch dick that would make you cum in 20 seconds I don't need to starve myself"

[quote]Letting others define you is the problem. If they called me jiggles I would lean over and tell them "I have a 12 inch dick that would make you cum in 20 seconds I don't need to starve myself"

Well... that will be the laugh of the night.

Would you whip it out on request R120? No one's talking about fatty if there's a big dick on display.

There is something so sexy about fat guys with huge cocks.

r121 - I'm not a fatty nor do I have a 12 inch dick. Simply stand up for yourself. Don't let other people define your happiness. tell them to fuck off in the most delightful way.

If you’re fat and have low self-esteem... maybe leave your shirt on??

I once dragged my friend to an underwear club after he had put on same weight. Some people there were making crosses with their fingers when he walked past. So it does happen.

Why on earth would you subject your "friend" to such an embarrassment, R126? You admit that he had put on weight. Did you tell him this? Did you work with him to get him in better shape? No. You were being selfish (because it was a party that you wanted to go to) and you wanted a wingman (crutch) to help you make it through the night... just in case.

This was clearly the author of this article's problem. Why must I be the grown up when he refers to others in the following way;

[quote]they were loud, obnoxious and super Nellie. Even though chiffon was coming out of their mouths as they shouted and laughed at one another,

[quote] Puerto Rican boys that seemed to be everywhere. I swear, all of them have huge bananas in their pockets.

Etc....

If he feels that he can say such demeaning and hurtful things about others then why can't I call the fat fuck a fat fuck? The fat fuck!

Gurl did not realize she was the wingman on this cruise

[quote] If I had to describe myself, I guess I resemble a heavier version of Matt Damon, circa 2008.

Does your ass look anything like his?

He. Fucking. Wishes.

Shoot, OP. You should have offered the ones you found attractive a blow job. If they accept, bully for you. If they don't, they won't bother you anymore.

r123 say it with me, girls: the bigger the belly, the fatter the dick.

not that i’m a chaser, but i do go for fit-fat.

Fat Whore Did NOT Rejoice

He could get into terrific shape and then star in "The Gay Most Likely To...."

I think those cruises are a younger man’s game.

They were acting like junior high bullies, so of course they're Datalounge heroes.

Well, I think that this is a fictitious whatever. But, I also think that it was written by a 60 year old DLer. C'mon... even in 2016, is a 35 year old man using vernacular like; "Hey baby... I want some "action"? " Or, I look like Matt Damon circa 2008? That was the dead give away! The DL, aged and decrepit, are unhealthily fascinated by any male under 25--which is actually old for a good deal of many others.

R138, I think you should run it through Google Translate twice before you hit post.

[quote]I think those cruises are a younger man’s game.

Actually, they're not. If you are confident, know yourself, and act like yourself, then they are quite fun. It's like the poster above who likes to go on these type of cruises for the ambiance and the sights. He's not looking for "action, baby" And yet, he's probably the one who would get approached.

[quote][R138], I think you should run it through Google Translate twice before you hit post.

Don't hate the messenger, darling...

[quote]not that i’m a chaser, but i do go for fit-fat.

Find an image on the internet and show us what you define as "fit-fat" According to the heroine of our story she was fit-fat. That fat tub of lard....

.is fit-fat the new term for "football build"?

new term? Don't get out much...

Fit-Fat, is in the eye of the beholder. Some would call below fit-fat

OP you’re a fucking idiot for even going on such a stupid cruise in the first place. What did you expect? I hate your guts.

Plot twist, it was a chubby chaser cruise and Mark in Minneapolis was still too ugly to fuck.

No one would call that guy, who is all muscle, fit-fat R144.

this split image helps

Zack Miko is fit-fat

[quote]OP you’re a fucking idiot for even going on such a stupid cruise in the first place.

WHEW! Comprehension! Anyway....

I would suggest/recommend that every gay male go on at least one gay cruise. I don't know about the type of money that the guy spent. But, it's a gay experience that in my opinion all gay men should experience. Just like I feel that tops should at least bottom once.

I agree with R144. Some guys see that as muscle, some as fit fat.

I am not a chaser, either, but I can get into some fit fat guys, too. My definition varies from other guys, I'm sure.

I dated a guy who looked like Max Adler from Glee. He was solid - stocky but very solid, beautiful cock and one of the best fucks I've ever had.

I was thinking of Ben Cohen, so blazingly hot in his 20s, now still cute but no longer ripped

You see? With only 3-6 examples there is a difference of opinion about what fit-fat is. For me, R149 is FAT!

A good indicator is the tits, if they be sagging then you aren't fit. r153 needs a bra.

R150 I would never go on a gay cruise. I’ve been on several normal cruises and there’s nothing especially intriguing about Fire Island on the sea. The fact that you find this such an incredible right of passage shows the shallow, vapid state of your life.

R153 is a brick shithouse of a man that I would like to keep occupied in my cabin for the duration of the cruise.

Yup r156 he looks like to type to take massive shits and smell like sweat. Please keep him in your cabin. I kid, he actually looks like a fun guy, despite frowning in the picture.

[quote]The fact that you find this such an incredible right of passage shows the shallow, vapid state of your life.

Honey lamb, I NEVER said that I wasn't vapid and shallow. Beluga, Hermès, ROLEX, is de rigueur. I slum with COACH

You know, perhaps it's just that I'm old enough (41) to no longer give any fucks about it, but I've realized that the sexiest thing to be is comfortable in your own skin. I used to be very, very heavy, and now I can reasonably say that I orbit fit-fat. And you know what, I get plenty of ass. More than I did when I was younger.

Many men would consider Brad Kalvo fit-fat. Others? Not so much.

Fit-fat is a matter of opinion.

Brad has been on the fatter side of fit for a minute now and I love it!

It’s not that Brad Kalvo is fit-fat, he just shouldn’t be doing porn any longer. There comes a time when it’s just over.

Brad needs to drop the alpha top facade and get his hole stretched out.

[quote]but I've realized that the sexiest thing to be is comfortable in your own skin.

IT IS!

I've never been on one of these cruises. Do the best looking guys get naked at the pool, the bars, the deck rails? Are they allowed to? I'm a senior now. I'm not up for sex much, but I still love to look.

Are you BILL TAYLOR'S nephew? At least you didn't get sexually assaulted by Goofy.

No, R165

R165, the video in the link is accurate about all of the goings on. But, one can seek refuge somewhere on the boat if you want some peace and quiet.

What I've always found interesting is a ship's crew. The workers fight to be part of the crew on the gay cruises. Those who are "straight" might not be so much afterwards and the women LOVE all what they see!

Do they look the other way about crew/passenger encounters more than regular cruises?

I would say yes, R169. On regular cruises the crewmen are prohibited from fraternizing with the passengers. But, on the gay cruises? That Purser with the hot ass will be up in the club dancing right next to the Captain of the Ship!

'Scuse me, gonna price an Atlantis cruise now.

There’s no such thing fit fat. There’s fit and fat.

Gay captains, R170?

Next time just go to a Furry Convention. Those costumes conceal much embarrassment.

[quote]Gay captains, [R170]?

I don't know first hand (there's a funny in that somewhere) if they are gay, R173. They could be straight guys that just like to have fun, But, I have seen with my very own eyes Captains of the Ship (yep! More than once) dancing and drinking in the night clubs with other men.

I'm telling you... after speaking with a number of ship crew members. they FIGHT to get the gay cruise assignments.

The idea of working on a cruise ship is so fucking depressing.

[quote]The idea of working on a cruise ship is so fucking depressing.

You don't make any money BUT you travel the world! It's HARD work though!

A whole thread on Twitter about this guy, who says he's average, and the cunty replies he's had on apps.

Yes everyone is welcome and there are people of all colors on the cruises

[quote]A whole thread on Twitter about this guy, who says he's average, and the cunty replies he's had on apps.

Perhaps I'm just doing it wrong, but I've never gotten a reply like that. Maybe it's because I tend to shop within my price range, but the worst I get is ignored. Every once in a while, I get a terse, but not rude, "not interested." No one has ever said "Back, foul creature!"

I wonder what he said to the guy first. Notice that's cut off.

[Quote] Brad has been on the fatter side of fit for a minute now and I love it!

Loving it too. I still find Brad very sexy.

The guy in question makes a career out of manufacturing click bait. Some DL haven't gotten the memo that many things on the InterTubes are bald faced fantasies. There have been eleventy zillion "articles" about Asians bullied on dating and sex aps, for example.

While gays can be cruel to one another in their home cities, I find these same gays are open and happy while on vacation.

While on cruises, fire island-like get always, etc, the same gays are far more accepting and open than they are at home.

I have a good friend who goes to Fire Island every summer. He says the same guys who ignore him all year on Grindr in NYC are lining up to hook with him on Fire Island. Maybe it’s the weather

Did one of those guys call him his soulmate.

[quote]I'm telling you... after speaking with a number of ship crew members. they FIGHT to get the gay cruise assignments.

From what I've been told too by various crew, is that the tips are FAR better on gay cruises than on a normal cruise. Gay men tip! Drunk gay men tip a lot! If you have sex with a gay drunk man you'll get the bank account!

I wouldn't want to be the cleaning crew. That's all I'm saying.

I wonder if some of them are angling to find a sugar daddy.

[quote]Yes everyone is welcome and there are people of all colors on the cruises

Yes, I see...

[quote]I wonder if some of them are angling to find a sugar daddy.

Aren't we all?

Nah. I'm saving up to buy one.

I mean to be one.

Yes, anyone that is familiar with the service industry will tell you that gay men tend to be good tippers r185.

[quote]I wouldn't want to be the cleaning crew. That's all I'm saying.

It's no worse (in fact, it's better) than cleaning up after many of the passengers on a Carnival Cruise. MESSES!

"May I cook you something in my oven?"

give me a little belly over huge muscles any day.

[quote]give me a little belly over huge muscles any day.

Why not both?

You better wise up, Janet Weiss.

[quote]give me a little belly over huge muscles any day.

It's a matter of preference, R195. But, don't kid yourself, the overwhelming majority of the men on a gay cruise are tight and JACKED! Those boys nearly kill themselves getting ready for a week or two on that boat! Like someone pointed out above; "Those bitches are STARVING!" But, it all depends upon your own attitude. I remember after my first gay cruise I thought that I would never do that again. At the time, I came away thinking that it was nothing more than a boatload of muscle queens that were perpetually drunk doing a two step to some drum beat type of music. However, after some time passed I realized how comfortable I was to be among similar people and the REALLY nice places that I had traveled to. Since then, I have been on a few gay cruises. If you're going in thinking that you will get laid on the hour (and some people do) then you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. In my opinion, you should go on one to have a good time. See the shows (which have yet to disappoint me), enjoy the food, and the destinations.

I wouldn't be caught dead on a cruise.

They are judgement free and super fun!! from Heaven!

I mean, I'm never going to be one of the Muscle Mary's, but I kind of want to set my goal as being comfortable going on one for 2021. #goalz

R180 From what he said in his Tweet, he literally just said hello.

So I don't think he was, you know, presenting hole or anything. The guy could have just ignored him.

[quote]So I don't think he was, you know, presenting hole or anything. The guy could have just ignored him.

I don't disagree, but in my personal experiences with Grindr, Scruff, and Growlr (yes, I like the chubby boys too sometimes, come at me), I've never had an interaction like that.

Hysterical R151. Max is a good friend. We worked together for years. A great guy. And yes, very sexy.

r203= Chris Colfer.

Hey girl hey.

[quote]"Those bitches are STARVING!"

Untouched food on a gay cruise.....

Their eating plenty you fools... plenty of ASS!

They’re.... Oh, dear!

Perhaps OP will try Fire Island next time, or maybe try to get laid on the set of a Bel Ami porno.

Sheesh, look in the mirror, make your choices and live with them.

People are mean shallow fucks, get used to it.

Notice how the author of the (shitty) article won’t post his pic but had no problem posting the picture of the people on the dance floor.

Hysterical R204. We waited tables together. Not Colfer.

The ultimate mean girl would post the following notice at the ships main entrance:

No admittance unless you have the following MINIMUM stats: 48 inch chest 18 inch bis 26 inch quads 17 inch calves Waist size 30 inches or less.

95% of those nasty ass bitches would fail the test and be sent home crying their gay eyes out.

Even uber queen Dr. Matthew Dempsey would fail this test.

[quote] Perhaps I'm just doing it wrong, but I've never gotten a reply like that. Maybe it's because I tend to shop within my price range, but the worst I get is ignored. Every once in a while, I get a terse, but not rude, "not interested." No one has ever said "Back, foul creature!"

This. I've been on various dating/hook up apps for nearly 6 years and I'm pretty average. The worst I've had is someone block me for saying hello. If people aren't interested, they just won't reply. I would assume that the only way you would see a confrontation like the one above is if the person were pushing and persisting in trying to talk to someone who wasn't interested. I guarantee this Max Shirley guy, who's a 5, went after a 9 and wouldn't take no for an answer.

Love this thread. This is the reason I have completely backed away from the gay community, other than the occasional bar with friends. All of the pretty girls sit around, alienating everyone else and then pretending that YOU are the problem. Everyone is just jealous of you, right?

I think this is more your speed, OP. Try Chumley's BearCruises.

r188 I’m pretty sure I see a chrome-domed Latino near the top-left corner!

I've been Poor Shamed in Saint-Tropez and Courchevel!

r211, I used to be on the gay webforum ATKOL years ago, and there was a Falcon gay porn performer named Jackson Phillips who loved to frequent it, usually trolling for compliments. His username on ATKOL was something like nopexnosex, and he would brag about wild sex parties he would go to in Miami where you would be forbidden from even entering if you didn't meet certain statistical requirements for chest size, bicep size, bodyfat, etc. He would brag about how hot he was and how great he was at sex (although he was to my mind a big ham on the screen--too given to moaning and screaming), and though he did (admittedly) have a great body, he wasn't very handsome.

He must be in his 60s now--I wonder what happened to him. He said he was quite wealthy in his personal life, but he had such an awful personality on this forum he was almost fascinatingly repellent.

[quote]I've been Poor Shamed in Saint-Tropez and Courchevel!

Well, you had no business going there if you knew that you couldn't "roll" correctly.

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r208 you sound fat

I see men of various shades at R188.

Anyone thinking that going to a "bear" event somehow means you get less of the "mean girl" bullshit is in for a rude awakening.

Bears - be they muscle bears or fat ones - are often as cunty and snooty as any other group of gay men. Some people thrive on negativity and exclusion, and it gets them off. Healthy At Every Size? Talk about Cunty At Every Size.

Seriously. Every gay event will be full of mean girls. At one party you might not be thin enough and the next one you are not fat/hairy enough. Wish it got easier with age, but it's even worse.

This thread reminds me of some stupid twink's webpage I saw years ago - I can't remember if it was an AOL profile, or what it was, but it was right around 9/11.

The top of the page had an eagle with a tear and the words "Everyone should realize we are ALL ONE WORLD! We are all one people! Love!"

Scroll down a few inches and you'd see this:

"NO fats! NO fems! No black guys! And no unemployed guys, I am not running a charity! No fugly guys, ONLY hot, masc, musc and employed otherwise do not EVEN speak to me!"

I still marvel at, uh, the mixed messages......

[quote]Seriously. Every gay event will be full of mean girls. At one party you might not be thin enough and the next one you are not fat/hairy enough. Wish it got easier with age, but it's even worse.

I will say I was surprised by the variety of body types I saw at Pride this year.

Hmm... I sense that an "element" has entered this thread.

Look... if you are going to any of these type of events looking for nothing but "action" then more than like you're setting yourself up for disappointment. R55, has one of the best attitudes here. He doesn't give a shit about what you think of him. He's paid his money just like everyone else and is going to enjoy himself.

R223-I had sex with a guy who was husky and muscular and bearded. He was not overweight but he could be described as a muscle bear. He came into my room at a bathhouse. He gave me such an attitude when I told him I didn't want him to use his video camera on me while he gave me a blow job. Then he said- You're lucky I'm even in here I wouldn't look at you on the street- BITCH. My ideal type of guy is slim. Not husky nor muscular. I wouldn't look at HIM on the street. After he said that I said GOODBYE and he left. Just because someone is not a gay fantasy doesn't mean they can't have an attitude. It's usually the guys who AREN'T hot who have an attitude.

R228 honey, you couldn't dine out on that story the first time you retold it. Diminishing returns at each repeat!

That never happened, R225. Masc was not in the lingo in 2001.

are you high, r230?

R229-Yes I did mention this story on another thread. I thought it was apropos to mention it here.

I've been on 12 Atlantis cruises and 3 RSVP, there are men of all sizes on both nobody has a problem with it. In fact some of the larger ones are the ones everyone gravitate just because they are having the most fun. Yes the photos all show young body builders, there are actually very few of them on the ship.

Someone said to me the BATHHOUSE cruises tend to be the ones that leave from Florida and go to the Caribbean. Those cruises have a higher percentage of so called HOT guys.

There are tons of bear events. Go to one of those. I’m betting he’ll still find a way to feel hurt and rejected. He’s just wired that way. There are all kinds of people at all kinds of gay events and most just go with it and have a blast.

Some are disappointed from the moment they arrive.

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R188 that does NOT look like fun in any way.

[quote][R188] that does NOT look like fun in any way.

It depends....

[quote]Yes everyone is welcome and there are people of all colors on the cruises

Sure-- if you count the crew members.

[quote]If I had to describe myself, I guess I resemble a heavier version of Matt Damon, circa 2008.

Tell me more ....

[quote]Beluga

More fat-shaming?

[quote]Is the only goal in life for these men to have lots and lots of sex with random people?

Would that be wrong?

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Ugh! R238. That pink speedo. This is why they hate us.

Now, he looked as if he had a great time all by himself. A number of people do take the cruises alone. And R144, I'd consider this guy fit-fat.

I went on a RSVP cruise in 92.... I was not fat shamed, because I bought my ticket 6 months beforehand and dieted and excersized off 75 lbs. Had a wonderful time, met a lot of great people - still was the fat guy on the inside, that insecurity would last a few more years....

I am going to take on the challenge of the poor guy head on. Atlantis does a Caribbean cruise every January, so if I aim for 2021, that gives me a year and a half. What the hell.

If I at any time turn into Mrs. Dan Savage and post pictures of myself on Instagram like a middle-aged gay Kardashian, you bitches have to stop me.

[quote] Someone said to me the BATHHOUSE

Why did you use capital letters in all of bathhouse? Are you BILL TAYLOR?

There is no such thing as fit-fat. There is only fit or fat.

Problem #1: gay cruise - you go to a basic gay bitch thing and complain about what happened there?? That's kind of complaining how you were not treated like royalty on a Greyhound bus.

Be happy with yourself, no matter what size you are.

Chrissy Metz doesn’t have any problems.

I was Size Shamed at a partouze in Le Cameroun.

May I suggest a classy kaftan while you dip your toes in the pool

WTF? Why is that bitch 2.5x the size of the other bitches?

Fatphobia is still alive and well in the Bear community!!

The guy who wrote that article is so un-selfaware it's sad. He sounds like he has a terrible attitude, extremely judgemental based on some of his comments in the article. If what he describes happened to him did actually happen then yes that's very shitty behaviour but he equally sounds like an unpleasant piece of work. Some guys think they are looked over for their physical appearance when actually it's their cunty attitude putting people off!

I've not been on a gay cruise but if you know you're going to be spending most of your time naked/topless and you are not happy with your body, then either don't go on one or work to be more happy with yourself. No one owes you anything.

Thank goodness this will never be a problem for me.

Gay cruises are fun because there is such a variety of guys--fat, slim, muscular, etc.

They use the muscle guys for the ads to attract people, but in reality, most are not muscular and gorgeous. Most are everyday gays from all around the country. Couples go an keep to themselves. Singles go to mingle. There's a space for everyone. You make it what you want.

Because most encounters on the ship with other people are fleeting, I've never seen anyone less than nice and kind. That said, a week a just gay men is more than enough for me.

[quote] most are not muscular and gorgeous.

So many self-hating and self-loathing people.

Most are not "gorgeous?"

C'mon, man....

[quote]Couples go an keep to themselves.

Hahahahahaha!

R183, for you...

MMPH... fat people problems...

Is it me or there's a lot of asians in those videos ?

Missed this the first time.

Yeah, he sounds pathetic.

There was way more going on with him and good-looking Adam too-- I suspect he wanted in Adam's pants and was majorly jealous that wasn't happening.

But mostly I couldn't get past that he kept referring to these people as "Wolves" and "Otters" and "Nellies" like they weren't humans with unique personalities but walking stereotypes.

And I guarantee you that all those guys who called him "Jiggles" were made fun of for the way they looked back in the day and were just making up for it.

I say that as someone who has always been thin--it would never dawn on me to mock someone for being fat--it's like the sort of thing kids do at camp when they're 11 and then they turn 12 and develop a conscience.

Also-- posting headless photos of himself and Hot Adam. WTF? No one needs photographic proof that you are chubby and your friend has a hot body.

The answer to the douchebag when he said, "If he didn’t want to be made fun of then maybe he should lose some weight" should have been, "then, I guess we're both lucky that I wouldn't fuck you with a barbed wire baseball bat - or do you need me to speak more slowly so you can follow along."

However, as noted by his language, he seems overly invested in the gay world being a certain way filled with stereotypes.

"Wolves" and other animals always go after the weakest in the herd.

Funny! And, very accurate.