Dr. Jordan Peterson clinical psychologist

Right-wing psycho-babble garbage.

Famewhore. It's really gross that he begs for money on Patreon as a tenured professor.

The hero of the alt-right?

The guy Steve Bannon and Milo love?

Try harder, troll.

I find his points to be basic common sense wrapped up in psychobabble.

He looks like the kind of guy who molests his kids and then uses psychology to justify it.

[quote]Peterson's critiques of political correctness range over issues such as postmodernism, postmodern feminism, white privilege, cultural appropriation, and environmentalism.

[quote]Peterson considers that the universities should be held as among the most responsible for the wave of political correctness which appeared in North America and Europe.

[quote]Peterson says that "disciplines like women's studies should be defunded" and advises freshman students to avoid subjects like sociology, anthropology, English literature, ethnic studies and racial studies, as well as other fields of study he believes are corrupted by the Neo-Marxist ideology.

[quote]Peterson has criticized the use of the term "white privilege", stating that "being called out on their white privilege, identified with a particular racial group and then made to suffer the consequences of the existence of that racial group and its hypothetical crimes, and that sort of thing has to come to a stop. ... [It's] racist in its extreme".

He’s a very unpleasant man.

"And so since the 1970s, under the guise of postmodernism, we've seen the rapid expansion of identity politics throughout the universities, it's come to dominate all of the humanities – which are dead as far as I can tell – and a huge proportion of the social sciences ... We've been publicly funding extremely radical, postmodern leftist thinkers who are hellbent on demolishing the fundamental substructure of Western civilization."

— Jordan Peterson

Jordan can always resign as a professor and forfeit his pension if he feels that strongly.

When Joe Rogan destroys your argument, clearly you're not a strong thinker.

Someone (perhaps always OP) starts a thread about him here every few months in an effort to get a conversation going about him. It's usually met with a combination of indifference and derision and fizzles out quickly.

He used the trans movement as a stepping stone to fame and fortune.

He was a nobody with a YouTube channel that no one watched. The only people who listened to his lectures were those who had to. He wrote books that no one read.

Now he's world famous and all because he claimed the trans community wanted to destroy him.

He wrote a paper on the most common traits of dictators and he appears to be following those traits to make himself famous.

Eventually he'll have to ratchet up the rhetoric to keep himself in the spotlight and we all know how that will end for those he disagrees with.

All shrinks are basically incompetent and fraudulent.

I love Jordan Peterson. I think he is amazing and he has a lot to offer. Clearly, I am in the minority.

He’s an idiot with a stupid voice and idiotic ideas.

He’s not a tenured professor, they canned him ages ago. Why do you think he grifts incels for Patreon money? Can’t wait till he gets no platformed. He’s a worse charlatan freak than Tony Robbins.

R14, I can not even imagine your worldview.

Receipts, r12?

Also, if you compare early to recent videos it looks like he had his hairline restored.

His original position for which he became famous when he argued against legislating speech was well-reasoned whether you agreed or not.

Since he became a rightwing darling, he's gone well outside his sphere of expertise.

A bit ... Aspergers-y, no?

I listened to OP’s YT, & thought it was good.

I’m tired of tarring & feathering people whose political beliefs don’t align with mine.

This is a real person, not a corporation or Hollywood facade. He doesn’t deserve to be ruined by trolls.

[quote]His original position for which he became famous when he argued against legislating speech was well-reasoned whether you agreed or not.

His original position was "No one's going to tell me how to talk and if I want to refer to another human being as an 'It" then I will because I'm a professor and therefore smarter than everyone else."

R21 Peterson denies an alt right exists yet routinely blames all the ills of the world on an all powerful alt left.

When asked why he was associating with neo-Nazis during a protest at UofT he claimed he didn't invite them, yet he had no problem posing for pictures with them.

The man is garbage.

Girl, just admit you are a Jordan Peterson fanboy and quit going through this act r21. No one is buying it.

And quit trying to promote him here OP.

He’s a male Judge Judy dishing up, just like her, common sense, insistence of self-reliance, and the importance of personal responsibility to a world which prefers victimhood, and blame calling. So he doesn’t go down well here with some Righteous Flowers, irrespective of his politics - and I don’t think he’s identified his alliances in that respect.

he's right on a lot of things. But millennials and SJW live in their Fantasy world and cant be reached by reality and common sense.

R24 OP here. I wasn’t “” promoting” him. it was a genuine inquiry about what other people think of him. I just happened to run across his videos on YouTube and thought they were interesting. I had never heard of this guy. That is it.

r14 = Jordan Peterson

I know two people who bought his book--both white straight men--and neither actually read the book, but are convinced he's a brilliant thinker.

That pretty much sums up his fan base.

Here's an article written by the guy who got him his teaching job at UofT. He regrets doing that.

Never heard of him, but if R6's quotes are real, he makes some good points.

Apparently ugly stupid men are exempt from his philosophy of self-reliance, however. He believes that there should be “enforced monogamy” in order to level the playing field for them, since the big hunky jocks are monopolizing all the good women. What a loon.

R31 watch the Rogan interview upthread to see Peterson get trounced on that point.

I’ve never heard of him, but I rush to every thread about him to make clear how I just love his ‘philosophy’ and wish the ‘trolls’ would just leave him alone

I liked this video on depression.

Peterson believes there should be enforced monogamy, and therefore women should be forced into sexual relationships with incels. No wonder he's an alt-right darling.

[quote]His original position was "No one's going to tell me how to talk and if I want to refer to another human being as an 'It" then I will because I'm a professor and therefore smarter than everyone else."

That's not even close to what his original argument was. I'm not saying you had to agree because I disagreed with several points. But, it was well-reasoned.

Since then, he's gone on to take ridiculous positions that are not nearly as well-considered or argued, mostly right wing nutbag talking points.

Before you summarize someone's position, you should really learn what it was and wasn't. THAT is how you have a coherent and reasonable discussion with other people when you disagree with them.

R36 I'm not new to Peterson. I'm Canadian and I've been following his attack on the trans community in particular and the gay community in general, since he started going after us. I knew of this prick before he became a darling of the incel/Nazi/alt-Right movement. I knew of him when he was going on The Agenda on TVO and claiming he'd be sent to jail for opposing Bill C61, when he knew that was complete bullshit.

I watched a u tube video of his and it’s obvious he has a big ole chip on his shoulder about women. He thinks that they are disproportionately BPD and out to ruin men. Who knows if he really thinks this or if it’s a schtick to rouse the incels. Probably both. He makes my skin crawl.

lol at OP trying to "redpill the normies" with this. Jordan Peterson is to rightwing white guys as, I don't know, Gwyneth Paltrow? is to her following. Nobody outside their following can stand them. Joke at best, dangerous at worst. He's one of the the social justice warriors, identity politicians, and virtue signallers for people who hate SJWs, identity politics, and virtue signalling but don't realize they're engaging in the same behavior they claim to despise.

R38 during the protest at UofT he had no problem threatening women and getting physical with them, but didn't dare try that with any of the men who confronted him.

If ever there was a guy who needed a good hard open hand slap to the face, it's Peterson.

Peterson logic: Lobsters use serotonin and have social hierarchies. Humans also use serotonin and therefor human hierarchies are good and normal and the way humans should live.

As a wealthy white male Peterson just happens to sits near the top of the human hierarchy ... imagine that.

[quote][R36] I'm not new to Peterson. I'm Canadian and I've been following his attack on the trans community in particular and the gay community in general, since he started going after us. I knew of this prick before he became a darling of the incel/Nazi/alt-Right movement. I knew of him when he was going on The Agenda on TVO and claiming he'd be sent to jail for opposing Bill C61, when he knew that was complete bullshit.

Peterson panders to the worst instincts in a large number of people.

As he's gained notoriety, his positions and arguments have become more extreme (and morally challenged) and articulated in more grandiose and less precise language. He often couches his statements in ambiguous nonsense that both obfuscate and provide plausible deniability if his base were to raise objections:

[quote]"If the marital vows are taken seriously...it's a means whereby gay people could be integrated more thoroughly into standard society and that's probably a good thing...Those are my views. I know they're confused...because I'm in favor of extending the bounds of traditional relationships to people who wouldn't be involved in a traditional longer term relationship but I'm concerned about the undermining of traditional modes of being..."

Let's not even get started on ridiculous statements like "traditional modes of being,"

What this approach does do for him is allow him to discredit all criticisms as misinterpretations by opponents. This is why it's important to debunk him with precision.

And, I still stand by my original statement. His original position was well-argued.

[quote]I oppose discrimination against gender identity and gender expression, that's not the point. The point is the specifics of the legislation that surrounds it and the insistence that people have to use compelled speech. That's what I'm objecting to. I've dealt with all sorts of people in my life. People who don't fit in in all sorts of different ways. I'm not a discriminatory person...but I think this legislation is reprehensible and I do not believe for a moment that it will do what it intends to do -- Peterson.

R42 did you watch him speaking before the Senate committee about Bill C16? He came off like any other anti-gay right wing loon.

^^^A good link, but the wrong one.

When he was on The Agenda:

[quote]“If they fine me, I won’t pay it. If they put me in jail, I’ll go on a hunger strike. I’m not doing this. And that’s that. I’m not using the words that other people require me to use. Especially if they’re made up by radical left-wing ideologues.”

[quote][R42] did you watch him speaking before the Senate committee about Bill C16? He came off like any other anti-gay right wing loon.

I do not disagree with this assessment of his performance at the committee meeting.

Here's a great article debunking Perterson's entire argument opposing BillC16.

His politics aside what about his videos dealing with depression & life’s challenges? Do you find any of them helpful?

No I don't R48. He hasn't made an original argument or presented an original point regarding how one should live their life or organize their time, or present themselves to society. In one video he actually used the word paradigm. I haven't heard that since Stephen Covey was popular.