"Eight Women Accuse Hollywood Filmmaker Max Landis of Emotional and Sexual Abuse: ‘We’re Not People to Him’"

Finally, Jesus! We had a thread about these accusations last year but people didn't yet want to come out against him with clear accusations for some reason.

[quote]At one point known as “the Colour Society” [bold](a spelling that Landis allegedly insisted upon)[/bold], Landis’s circle was an immediate draw for Julie, who first met Landis when she was relatively new to Los Angeles. “Max’s whole entire MO was, he had a special friend group, it’s very exclusive, and you’re lucky to be a part of it. He introduced me to almost every single one of my current friends.”

I hate him.

He’s a Leo, they’re all insane

[quote]“He showed me abuse and humiliation porn and constantly tested my boundaries—this became murkier and murkier as our relationship got more tumultuous, as I grew to view sex with him as the only way to receive love and connect,” Julie wrote in her statement. “This lead to me allowing myself to become more and more abused. He claimed that seeing me cry was a turn-on—this later turned into a routine of him yelling and humiliating me until I cried, then having sex with me while I continued to cry with no regard or effort to make things right. He’d instigate fights, belittle and upset me, just so he could have sex with me, and the real, legitimate fights ended the same way. He choked me until I passed out and did humiliating, degrading things to me that I still can’t manage to write out on paper.”

[quote]“He continued to violate my boundaries into even after our relationship, and if any of this still feels like a blurred lines scenario let me assure you that he did hold me down and rape me while I said ‘no’ over and over. Afterwards I punched him in the shoulder and I told him, ‘When someone says no, you’re supposed to stop. What you just did is what they call rape.’ He said he thought we were playing a game, and that I liked it. He didn’t care.”

This is all pretty damning. How can you come back from that?

How could they let a 5-point (mostly for his wealth) guy abuse them like this? If it were me, I would just suck of his friend and spit cum in his face and walk out on the first abuse.

[quote]Describing the spectrum of abuse that she experienced during their relationship, Julie wrote, “[Landis would] bring up his hand and fake that he was going to hit me, and laugh when I flinched. He’d constantly threaten to break up with me, speak about his ‘prospects’ to me and openly flirt in front of me. On multiple occasions he’d refer to me as his ex-girlfriend in front of girls at parties we’d go to together as a couple. He’d openly critique my body in front of people and tell me privately that I had the potential to be ‘so hot’ if I committed to working out more. He’d graphically describe sex with his ex-girlfriends and rate their abilities compared to mine, both to me and to his friends and work associates.”

r5 It's a cult thing, just as described. And it works every so slowly to wear you out and break you down over time.

[quote]“Abuse is slippery. No one starts out announcing that they’re abusive, you discover it slowly,” Kerry wrote in her statement. “But Max did, somewhat, announce that he was abusive. That was what was so disarming about his particular brand of manipulation…Max also quickly lets you know that he’s sick (with cyclothymia—a form of bipolar disorder) and this was tied to the ways in which he was abusive. It made it even harder to see clearly. It caused me to often mis-file his abusive behaviors as sad indicators of his illness and, as a result, I would often wind up comforting him in regards to his own remorse over his actions.”

[quote]“Once he choked me and told me he wanted to kill me. And I would wind up reassuring him that he wasn’t a monster when he felt bad about it. Because I felt bad that he was so sick.”

I hate people using bipolar to explain away BPD.

[quote]She added, “There was no option of not having sex if Max wanted to and you did not.”

[quote]“The first incident that I can remember, we were at some public event and I think I laughed at something and he just started choking me to the point where my eyes were blacking out,” Manning told The Daily Beast. “I felt such confusion that I tried to leave and I was drunk and I had to just kind of wait while he tried to convince me that he didn’t mean it.”

So he's super into rape and choking with all his women, the piece of shit.

R5 I used to have a lot of women friends, so I knew a couple of them that went through stuff like this with straight guys. They start off nice, then they do little things like the weight comments, and once the woman's gotten use to that, he escalates. One of my friends had a boyfriend that started out making jabs about how she was aging. She was 19, and he was 29. He would say stuff like, "women age worse than men, so men have to be the older one in a relationship, so they look the same age." Most straight guys age like shit.

R6 Sounds more like Antisocial Personality Disorder

[quote]In a written statement, Dionne recalled that Callie had told her she was going out for drinks that night with a group of friends, including Max Landis. Later that night, Dionne wrote, “I was asleep and awoke to what sounded like a person falling, and then I heard what sounded like another person picking up someone and setting them down. I then heard more sounds of motion, then I heard Callie’s voice ask in a confused and quiet voice, “[her then-boyfriend’s nickname]” and then repeat the name she called her boyfriend, still sounding confused and delirious. I then heard a male voice confirming he was [boyfriend’s name]. Knowing her boyfriend was out of town at the time, I jumped out of my bed and walked into our shared living room to see Max over Callie on our couch. He was on top of her and her pants were off and he was thrusting and I could hear the sound of what he was doing. I yelled, ‘You need to leave right now!’ He got up, quickly pulling his pants up, and I physically rushed him, aggressively demanding he leave.”

Holy shit, this is BAD.

[quote]There was another incident later on in their relationship, which Landis later claimed not to remember. “We finished having sex and we were standing naked in this kitchen and I slapped his butt, and he said, don't slap my butt. And I said, no, I’m going to, in a way that I thought was playful, and he snapped, is the only way I can describe it. He turned around and he put his hands around my throat and he got very close to my face and he said, ‘I will fucking kill you. Do you understand what I’m saying? I will fucking kill you.’”

Was he molested as a child?

[quote]One of the most “emotionally painful” things that Landis did occurred early in their romantic relationship, Baker said. She recalled an incident, right after they had slept together, when Landis asked her if she wanted to see something “awful.” He opened his computer and showed her a “very long list” of women’s names—all of the women who he had slept with, according to Landis. “At the top was a key he had made to rank each experience as enjoyable or not, exciting or not, etc. Some of the women weren’t listed by their names, just by their ethnicity and the location of the encounter, because he didn’t know their names. He scrolled to the bottom and showed me my name, with his rankings next to it.”

[quote]When Baker began to cry, she told The Daily Beast, Landis looked at her “expressionless.” He said that he had shown the list to other women, and that they had had “the same reaction” as Baker, “So he ‘didn’t know why he kept doing it.’”

This exposé keeps getting crazier and crazier...

It's CRAZY!

He was testing the water. She allowed him to do this, then he knew he could carry on regardless. If she just walked out at that point, it'd send him the message that she wouldn't meekly take his abusive shit.

The guy probably has some complex about his ugly look and now is taking it out on women when he can use his wealth and connection to do so. Truly antisocial creep.

[quote]Julie wrote, “[Landis would] bring up his hand and fake that he was going to hit me, and laugh when I flinched.

[quote]“He would constantly say, like when he was ready to cop to stuff, he would say, ok, fine, I’ve made women feel used. I’ve been a shitty guy, but I have never ever let it bleed into my work life. I’ve never had a sexual relationship with anybody on any set, I’ve never been inappropriate with anybody on a set. He said, that’s not what kind of a monster I am. He said, everyone who’s ever worked with me will say that it was the best experience of their life.”

The Daily Beast then masterfully proceeds to include quotes from the women whom he sexually harassed on the set. Genius!

[quote]“He would talk about his penis all the time to me, brag about the size of it.”

Okay, so he has a huge cock. That explains why so many fell for him, along with his name and the money.

r13 Yup, this quote is pretty heartbreaking:

[quote]Gage, who first became friends with Landis at the University of Miami in 2007, told The Daily Beast that Landis had a “whole history” of “transforming these incredible, vibrant women into this type of woman that he was looking for.” He added, “All of them go blonde, all of them lose weight, and all of them are under his spell.”

I was in a screening room with his once. He was so loud and obnoxious and entitled. But i also thought he def had that tarantino chatty aspbergers thing going on. Oh well. His time is over now.

I suppose real life is full of these mini cults that you don't even notice until it's too late.

[quote]Women like Ani Baker and Julie realized that Landis had a skill for bringing women that he had victimized back into the fold by any means necessary, and insisting that they never leave. “One thing I really want to help other people understand, in whatever way I can, is that you can’t see it when you’re in it,” Baker told The Daily Beast. “It can be the clearest thing to everyone else, to the friends that you’re crying to about the abuse, but you can’t see it.” Baker and Julie only began to see it in full when they compared their stories.

Spoilt brat from a famous background, guy wrote a mildly entertaining movie a long time ago and ever since has written shit but because he's connected and a Jew he was given chance after chance, glad that his murdering father couldn't protect him this time.

Didn't his father murder Jennifer Jason Leigh's father?

I love this tweet:

[quote]On the one hand, you've got multiple women alleging that Max Landis is abusive and toxic and at least one interview with Landis himself suggesting as much. On the other hand, Max Landis has written a number of terrible movies. So you see, the situation is not so simple.

r19 He did.

This is the best tweet I've seen.

Emotional abuse is awful.

It wasn't abuse-abuse.

He looks like a mongoloid Jason Schwartzmann in a Lukas Haas mask.

Must be tough to be that hideous and talentless AND have a remorseless murderer for a father (much as I like a lot of John Landis's work, he got off spot-free from the manslaughter of Vic Morrow and two child actors).

John Landis, Max’s father, directed Thriller & a lot of other Michael Jackson material.

So this is John's son. Hmmm. John was trash and never really accepted responsibility for killing 3 people.

On the other hand I am sick and tired of these ridiculous child-like women who stay in bad or abusive relationships . . . excuse me but WHY are they in them? Are they hoping to get ahead in the industry?

I question the judgment of these women and that makes me also question their perception of events and their overall credibility. Especially if it arises out of a joint effort to go after him.

Sorry but the minute you see any of this behavior you get out. Stop making excuses for why they stayed.

Did these eight women form a Let's Out Max Club?

[quote] “We finished having sex and we were standing naked in this kitchen and I slapped his butt, and he said, don't slap my butt. And I said, no, I’m going to, in a way that I thought was playful

gurl, NO!

[quote]Did these eight women form a Let's Out Max Club?

There have been other women before this group, and some of Landis' male friends have come against him as well. Stop making excuses for sociopathic abusers.

[quote]Sorry but the minute you see any of this behavior you get out.

Which totally explains why there have been zero cults throughout human history. You seem really fucking naïve for an adult person.

*come out against him

What is it with all these Jewish guys?

[quote] John Landis, Max’s father, directed Thriller & a lot of other Michael Jackson material.

Also responsible for the deaths of three people, two were children.

OMG I knew there was something wrong with him in the frantic way he speaks and acts. It isn't drugs -- there's some neurotic, abnormal pathology there.

Now I'm guessing sociopathy or psychopathy. His dad lost his career for pushing people too dangerously close to the edge, despite being an excellent filmmaker.

There's some predatory aggression that runs in the family.

Did somebody mention Eight Women?

[quote] Which totally explains why there have been zero cults throughout human history. You seem really fucking naïve for an adult person.

No. An adult doesn't enable this behavior - not in the doer or in the receiver. This guy didn't jump out of the bushes. He invited them in and they willingly went. And they willingly stayed.

You, as an adult, have to stop making victims out of these women. It just tells them, reinforces in them, the idea they have no power when they have ALL the power to make it stop or not let it begin. You have to firmly say to them YOU can stop this all on your own. YOU be an adult and not engage with someone like this.

Everyone is sooo sensitive and walking on egg shells around women with abuse stories rather than asking them how this happened, how they often let this happen. If you don't realize that some people want to play the victim and want what comes with that - attention, sympathy, someone to take care of them, excuses for trading embarrassing behaviors for a desired goal - then YOU are naïve.

R34 I get where you are coming from, but this guy seriously seems dangerous. He’s an entitled little tool who is clearly showing sociopathic tendencies. His Dad would be equally vile and (as previously said) was responsible for the death of several people and got away with it.

Landis and his Patrick Bateman son are products of the elite Hollywood Mafia who have been doing this kind of stuff for far too long.

Jesus is every man in Hollywood an abuser? Seems like it.

R36 Hollywood is truly a cess pit. It attracts all kinds of people, but those who are sociopathic tend to have the upper head to rise to the top. They will happily backstab and destroy anyone who stands in their way. As a byproduct of this behaviour they will also treat others as sexual prey and abuse them for kicks. Their children grow up believing this behaviour is normal and either become worse than their parents or utter fuck ups on drugs and involved with crime.

R32 John Landis worked for over 25 years after being at least partially responsible for the deaths for 3 people. He hardly "lost his career."

R36 Several foreign actresses will get some buzz, do one of two American movies, then disappear to their own country. At least a couple (Sarah Polley comes to mine) have said that it was because of how bad the American film industry is.

According to Buzzfeed: "Landis dated a girl who identified as a lesbian, and he spent time hooking up with men."

Maybe he was molested by MJ, even though he was kinda too fugly for MJ's taste.

MJ was obsessed with blondness. I can't see him preying on a Jewish kid with dark hair and dark eyes.

R42: Jordan Chandler had dark hair and eyes, as did Ash Denton and several others. Corey Feldman, too.

Alleged Jackson victim Ash Denton:

R28 aka Nadia Naivety aka Debra Derp, stop making excuses for idiots who date Obvious Scum day after day, night after night, cum facial after cum facial. Sometimes gold diggers get more than they bargained for. How many clues did they need before they noticed the CRAZY FUCKER sign bolted to his forehead? Poor dears also failed to see the big red blinking RUN LIKE HELL, DUMB BITCH billboard over his bed. Please. These chicks will date Jason Voorhees as long as he gets them into the Crystal Lake Country Club. Debra honey, do you also have a problem keeping your legs shut? Try duct tape. Maybe you can get magnet strips installed in your inner thighs. Hope that helps.

"... then having sex with me while I continued to cry"

You could have continued to the door and walked out of it. But you didn't. Why?

r45 You seem really angry over something that doesn't concern you at all. Unless you have a couple of rape skeletons in your closet as well.

You're also deeply unfunny, but that's for another day.

R34, of course people should leave upon seeing red flags.

But also...people ought not abuse others.

You seem to just accept that abusers will always abuse. You don’t even try to stop abusers. Instead you lecture the abused.

45 types incel

I bet John Landis is produced child porn for himself & MJ.

This is not just "Antisocial."

This is psychopathy. The fake apologies, the saying of the right things, the cold, indifference to victims breaking down upon being shown a database of other victims with his reviews — "we're not people to him."

It all suggests sociopathy and psychopathy.

I could tell from the only interview I saw of him years ago that he had some kind of ADHD — and now I learn that his diagnosed illness, cyclothymia — is a strain of bipolar disorder that usually comes comorbid with other illnesses like ADHD.

[quote] But also...people ought not abuse others. You seem to just accept that abusers will always abuse. You don’t even try to stop abusers. Instead you lecture the abused.

Abusers will always abuse and you can't stop them from being abusers and a shitty person but you don't have to stick around and let yourself be abused either.

Women don't care about huge cocks, r14.

As the article states, all of these victims and a circle of friends he used as bait were lured by Max's MONEY. He spoiled them with lavish parties, food, drugs, alcohol and vacations.

It's Michael Jackson shit with Bill Cosby for the finish.

It's not so easy when you're bribed, r26, and leaving means giving up a high life.

Jewish, yet again...

r34 is probably just a nasty, Milo Snuffaluffagus-style mysoginist. Blaming the victim is just another fun way to denigrate those worthless women to him.

But you should read the article, dumbass. All of those women DID walk away eventually.

R53, I HOTLY beg to differ, friend. How do you know if women care about big cocks or not?

We certainly do. We say we don't because straight men are so obsessed with their cocks and cock size, that we must placate their fragile egos.

A big dick feels unbelievable, both in girth and in length. There, of course, is the unfortunate syndrome of beautiful big dick-having men (BBDHM) not even trying during sex, because they feel their cock size more than compensates for finesse and skill. But make no mistake, a small cock is a sad and disappointing thing, and never hits the G spot way up where cervix is. The only silver lining is that giving head to a small cock is a walk in the park.

Well, the exact, same thing could be said about Washington D.C., Moscow or any political capital. r37.

Don't call one town a "cess pit" when you're repeatedly sending elitist predators like Donald Trump and George W. Bush back to the White House.

This is not something you can scapegoat one industry for. These people are in every corridor of power, you love some of them and they have to be confronted and isolated.

R52, of course you can stop abusers. You can arrest and convict them. Landis committed a number of rapes.

It's not the deal-maker for most women that it can be for gay men, r57.

I don't care how much of a craven cockwhore, exception to the rule or female impersonator you are.

OK, clearly there's an alt-right, misogynist, anti-semitic troll on a rampage.

Everybody F & F r55, please and have a good night. The thread will be closed soon.

Eight is Enough. Cancelled.

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He’s so hot and handsome. I can completely understand why these women fell for his looks. It was probably off putting his Dad was a rich Hollywood Director, but they’ve ignored that to date this handsome charming man. Then he turns out to be a psycho!

Handsome isn't the word I would use to describe him.

Judging by those pictures, R63, he chose his victims well. They are not good looking and he obviously preyed upon their low self-esteem by giving them 'friends' and inviting them to lavish parties.

The smart ones, by one of his victim's accounts, left early on. Which leads me to believe these girls were needy.

Yeah thanks ladies, we don't get a third season of Dirk Gently because of your raging vaginas.

Dead 💀

[quote]you can't stop them from being abusers

Has anyone ever [italic]tried[/italic] to stop abusers from being abusive?

R26 r34 r46 I agree to an extent as unpopular as it is. Landis is a freaky little creep and probably a psychopath. But I've grown weary of women who live in a state of constant infantile passivity. After the hundredth time this occurred, these women essentially were colluding in their own abuse. I can only assume their motivation was good sex or their career, there was nothing appealing about his personality. There are no shortage of abusive individuals out there but in some of these cases I suspect some of the women were fetishizing their own victimhood or something. There are a minority of women who get off on being the "helpless damsel in distress " victim. There's really no reason to keep going back to someone consistently abusive. .

Mirroring your rationale for his actions, R70, Max Landis told a 'friend' that she was responsible for attracting the person who assaulted her. Sorry, but you don't have an audience for that particular pathology here, R70 et al.

This guys issue is the sees woman as the enemy who should be punished. In school he was the ugly, jewy boy who none of the cheerleaders paid attention to so he slummed it with the uglier and slightly heavier goth girl, who would suck him off while he closed his eyes and thought of Britney the head cheerleader. Time went on and he blamed hot girls for being stupid for not clearly seeing how great he was so they should be punished for it, when he came of that age that he realised his dad's wealth and eventually his own fame could be used to get with the hot girls he treated them like shit, because they are clearly lesser than him for not realising how much better he is than them. And like any abuser he has an inate skill for preying on the already damaged.

he's obviously a POS and i hope he pays but it's true that some of these accusers sound quite stupid. "he told me.i was fat". well, why didnt you tell him he looks like a pressed turd and leave?? dont women know how to take care of themselves anymore?

But...but...he's white and Tall! How can you queens not love him?

He checks off all the boxes important to you!!

"I grew to view sex with him as the only way to receive love and connect,” Julie wrote in her statement."

For Chrissake, Julie, get your shit together.

This is NOT what MeToo is for. Nutcase starlets and their zero accountability. She signed up for it, full tilt boogie.

As Judge Judy so aptly puts it: "You chose him."

R72 has it down to an art form.

Whether it’s Jordan Peterson style nerd’s revenge, legitimate mental illness or just good old fashioned hatred of women and contempt for those in a lower tax bracket, Max Landis is clearly a danger to others and needs to be in jail for all the rapes and assaults.

[quote] he's obviously a POS and i hope he pays but it's true that some of these accusers sound quite stupid. "he told me.i was fat". well, why didnt you tell him he looks like a pressed turd and leave?? dont women know how to take care of themselves anymore?

100% agree with this. Those trying to rationalize his behavior or worse by calling him a Jew or whatever are insane. These women didn't speak up until it benefited them. They could have done the same when they had nothing to gain instead of enabling him to enter into more toxic relationships.

The emotional abuse described by the victims are more typical of men who are abused by their wives. Quite strange.

Well, His father is well known to be a raging asshole(as well as a triple murderer)so is anyone really surprised his son turned out to be an evil prick?

Wow, he sucks. Everyone should shun him. Seems like he writes shitty movies too. Bright? The fuck?

Great thread so far! Makes me wonder how many other “Max Landis” types there are in Hollywood who still haven’t been exposed yet....

From his IMDB profile:

Max Landis, An American Werewolf in London, writer/director (project announced)

Uh oh.

[quote]Judging by those pictures, [R63], he chose his victims well. They are not good looking and he obviously preyed upon their low self-esteem by giving them 'friends' and inviting them to lavish parties.

Neither women look particularly bad to me. They're probably just wearing less makeup than the average Hollywood denizen, that's all.

R2 I don't understand the significance of insisting on the spelling Colour. What is the reason?

R63 The first girl would be cute if not for her stripper tattoos.

He directed Ariana Grande’s “One Last Time” music video which is still hands down the worst video she’s ever done. And that’s saying something because she’s had some terrible ones.

He’s a no talent asshole whose dad directed Pedophile michael Jackson’s videos.

His hair, from a few years ago.

Oh please, r88, he isn't a no talent asshole. He made Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, and it was a great series. It got cancelled prematurely because this was percolating at the time at peak #metoo. And he was accused back then but nothing more came from it other than his active series getting cancelled.

This seems more like a savvy lawyer saw an opportunity to make some cash and collected the women to try to get them to sue. Building up cases like that takes time.

Or rather, the article writer saw an opportunity and followed up on it from the earlier reports, and is trying to turn this into her career-building exposé.

R89, R90, so it’s all an evil plot? Why did these evil plotters have so much material to work with?

Such bullshit. You know damn well that if the nicest guy in the world talked to any of these women, they'd have no interest. They seek out guys like this and enjoy the drama. Without them, how else can they be the victim (not that they wouldn't find a way).

So sick of this shit. Get your crap together, women, and grow the fuck up. If you are still going for the Bad Boy after age 18, the problem is yours, not his.

R91 it's not an evil plot, but a very clear career-building effort. He might be a sleaze but there's a HUGE difference between rape and calling a woman 'fat' and articles like this put the worst accusations in the headline and it's a lot of heresay from former lovers.

I am NOT a fan of "trial by Twitter". The media is not a court of law and the cancel culture is bullshit that needs to be pushed back on, strongly.

Go to the police, ladies, if something against the law happened. Being a jerk is not a prosecutable offense.

R68 I am going straight to hell.

[quote]So sick of this shit. Get your crap together, women, and grow the fuck up. If you are still going for the Bad Boy after age 18, the problem is yours, not his.

Landis has lost professional opportunities because of these allegations. It doesn't make sense to say that's all the women's problem.

Boo hoo.These women need to stop playing victims and grow up.

R86 Tattoos are a sign of someone who most definitely doesn’t seek out extreme experiences.

The only thing women love more than a Bad Boy is getting to play the victim.

Handsome? I beg your pardon!!!!

R19 I wouldn’t say John Landis murdered Vic Morrow and those two children, but he is responsible for the deaths and LA prosecutor fucked up by filing charges that wouldn’t stick instead of going for lesser charges that would.

R98, it's the only status they have in a society that gives them the second fiddle position for no other reason than their gender. They don't fight back because they feel as if they can't.

Many of these women are raised to this - raised to believe they have to accept the good with the bad in order to have a relationship that works. This POS knew it, chose the 'victims' very well. Chances are that most of these women had been abused, sexually and psychologically, long before he came along. Treat their trauma and watch the victim shit disappear. I worked with abused women in shelters and know the issues. It's not as simple as you make it out to be. When love walks in the door common sense flies out the window. This guy knew how to love bomb these women. I've seen this shit over and over again. They tell themselves 'it will get better, he knows he's got problems, he's working on it.' This sick bitch played that as if he wrote the symphony for it.

And another thing....you want to try and walk out of a situation where the man is going to get violent? where he's shown this violence before? You think anyone believed them when they told others? 'Not our Max' would be the response. Fuck, we're seeing it play out on a television show I see talked about here quite often.

I had to literally fight for my life back in the day when I was kidding myself about being 'normal' and getting out of a relationship with a violent, charming man. It came down to a physical altercation and not all women could throw a punch to knock a man out like I had to that night. I got a broken jaw in the bargain. So no, bitches, it's no so easy to just 'walk away' when you're entangled socially, financially and emotionally.

Scratch a woman who likes 'bad boys' and you'll find a woman who was abused and wants protection.

Of course Max turned out to be an asshole.

What do you expect, when John Landis was such a......helicopter parent

[quote]So no, bitches, it's no so easy to just 'walk away' when you're entangled socially, financially and emotionally.

ie when you're a whore and depend on the guy completely? How could you emotionally entangle yourself with a guy who emotionally abuse you, and then complain about it??? I don't get it. In a masochistic way?

And it's easy, bitch, but you're too weak to stand on your own. So go back to your mom and start your so-called life all over again.

Don Simpson was evil to women, most of Hollywood knew it, and yet they covered for him.

I dont give any money to Hollywood. Asshole city.

R103, you corny son of a bitch, marry me.

R104, it's clear you haven't felt the touch of a man in a very, very, very long time, and your dear ol' woman-hating dad was your role model. Uncork the butt plug and go have a nice sauna.

R105 Everyone knew about Weinstein for years too.

R106 What's the touch of a man have anything to do with you being a whore? I don't get it? One touch and you crumble??? Weird and weak life with no self-esteem you must have had there. No wonder you're a whore.

R108 is one of those psycho MRA/Incel types.

I love how all these WT MRA working class hero types defend someone like Max Landis.

Dude wouldn’t spit on you if you were on fire. He’s not big on lunch box types, but keep worshiping them like they give a shit about you.

The whole Nexium/Allison Mack trial reads like a day in the life of Hollywood, and apparently she is singing her heart out, and giving up big Hollywood names.

I'm not implicating Max Landis in this, but I am saying that very severe abuses have gone on, and yes, many people in Hollywood belong to secret societies.

Allison Mack is naming names, expect some very SHOCKING stories to come out about some very famous people.

Allison Mack is thought to be Kristin Gillibrand's daughter, as Mack's father was a member of Nexium.

Yes, the Gillibrand who is running for president, and is a good friend of Hillary Clinton.

The Clinton's have been a protection racket for Hollywood for decades. Ed Buck ( where is he, by the way) is a key player in this and he's a good 'singer' as well. Weinstein, Cosby, Don Simpson, Mack...all tied in with the Clinton's but HELLO, they are all circling the drain now, the jig is up, goodbye Hollywood limousine liberal assholes.

The CIA, NSA has all your dirty deeds in their files.

Pamela Anderson is the smartest woman in Hollywood. Who knew?!

R111 names like what?

I don’t believe in victim blaming or shaming but many of these women ignored weeks/months/years of warning signs that Max is a manipulative creep. Sadists can’t function without masochists which is what most of these women sound like. I hope they at least learned to be suspicious of powerful men in the future.

R113, Who has guest starred in Smallville and knew what time everyone took a shit in Hollywood?

That person is now deceased. Famous last words ( spoken on chat show) ...."If they don't kill me"... Next night flew home to be with the Lord..

Now we have incel/whore dichotomy?

There is a middle ground for people who can enjoy sex without being a whore and without entangling oneself with a man socially, financially and emotionally. If you must know.

I don't blame the victims in this case. But at least they should know that they could walk away from all that shit. Don't let a whore tell you that you can't.

[quote]be suspicious of powerful men in the future.

Ha.

Hahahaha.

Thanks for the laugh.

"Dude wouldn’t spit on you if you were on fire. He’s not big on lunch box types, but keep worshiping them like they give a shit about you."

The usual idiot logic. Please tell me you are female so I don't have to cringe for my gender.

This is about far more than Max Landis and whether he "likes" me or not. Far bigger picture, not that I expect you to be able to see it.

There are no victims here, just willing participants.

R112 thinks it’s cute to put a crooked scumbag with mafia ties and a porn star wife into the White House and two rapists on the Supreme Court, then call Gillibrand and the Clintons “assholes” “protecting” a “cess pool.”

R112 and the rest of Donald Trump’s white trash army of whores sold America to Russian mafiarchs, then gripe about harmless email storage locations and blowjob cover-ups.

What a hypocritical lying scum.

You really give a shit about the law.

The Smartest Woman in Hollywood has a VERY good friend who is coming to the U.S., and he's got the goods!

Hollywood and the Clinton's are finished.

The HORRIBLE secret that Allison Mack gave up was the child pornography that was produced by and sold to Hollywood assholes.

SHE NAMED NAMES.

Santa Claus is coming to town, and he's got the presents ( and the beard!) Yay!

Absolutely you can stop abusers. You can LOCK 'EM UP, where Donald Trump should be.

"a porn star wife"

Jesus. Clutch those pearls, you sad prude. So fucking embarrassed for you.

Thomas Mann posted this on his IG story:

[quote] This is so overdue. Haven't had a nice thing to say about this guy since I met him 8 years ago. SOCIOPATH

(I assume he auditioned for the Dane DeHaan role in "Chronicle".)

R112 Mack didn't join NXIVM (Nexium is a drug) until she was a teenager. She was recruited by Kristin Kreuk, who left the cult soon after. Kreuk was recruited by Grace Park, who also left.

Gillibrand's dad IS a member though.

Nexium - The Purple Pill

R68 that is what Twitter was made for. I can't stop laughing and I hate myself

R112 = Trumpster

-- Pete and Beto together

[quote]Trump attended a military academy and worked construction as a teenager.

[quote]Trump has studied military strategy and is wholly respected by our service members.

[quote]If the democratic strategy is to attack Trump, who is the most keyed-in president regarding our military, then you will LOSE once again, in another spectacular fashion.

The first time this twat was an abusive sex partner, it might be a surprise. Nobody deserves to ba abused.

And why would ANYONE, but a maschoist, go back for a 2nd?

twat....

His tweet about Carrie Fisher was in poor taste. I feel bad that she had to be in his company during her final moments.

Did he give her the drugs? Was it ever investigated as to where she got her final dose?

Doesn't anyone care?

Holy shit, the tweet at R68 may be the greatest I've ever seen.

Who is Allen Strickland Williams? He's cute! Would totally suck him off for that.

He wrote my favorite comic of all time. I still read it once a year or so. Back when it came out I remember praising it on reddit, and someone from all the way back then said that I shouldn't praise Landis because he's known as a huge creep who abuses his power with women. This was years before #MeToo. I stopped praising him publicly, but I did privately hope it wasn't true. Sad to see it is

Who is fucking Max?

He looks like a rat and a mole mated.

Regarding Carrie Fisher, she wrote The Princess Diaries right before her death, it was not from her youth nor was it about Harrison Ford.

She wrote much of it in AA meetings. Who was it about, really, or what?

Yes, I know it has Star Wars photos but that's to sell copies.

Carrie had affairs with both men and women, but could the sadness be about a group or organization?

Carrie was a very enraged person at the end and could not temper her rage with substance abuse anymore.

She too, hung around Hillary Clinton and was friends with Allison Mack in the 1990s.

Keith Raniere has been found guilty on all counts and court documents reveal his own predilection toward pedophilia.

Raniere is an admitted pedophile and Nexium trafficked children for sexual abuse.

And for child pornography. The cat is out of the bag, for sure.

All assets will be seized and all are pleading guilty, singing like canaries, and will bring it all down.

Expect suicides.

that will never happen.

Several work friends on FB are not surprised by this article, said that he's horrible to work with.

[quote]“He showed me abuse and humiliation porn and constantly tested my boundaries—this became murkier and murkier as our relationship got more tumultuous, as I grew to view sex with him as the only way to receive love and connect,” Julie wrote in her statement.

I guess giving up the professional victim status and simply refusing to participate in an abusive toxic relationship would be even worse, huh?

Women will put up with ANYTHING from a man! Where does personal responsibility come into play? Ever?

But don't you get it, R141? It's ALL OUR FAULT! We keep destroying these sweet innocent puppies. Even if we are gay.

fuck 'em.

P.S. I dated a celebrity back in the day and it was great -- until one day it wasn't anymore and this kind of "I call, you run to me" bullshit began. It took me all of one day to end it. Now he calls or emails once every couple of years, wanting to get together (but really just playing that "Do you still love me and how much can I get away with?" game). And I don't even respond. It's not that hard. How fucking damaged do you have to be to stay in a lousy situation, especially when leaving is in your control.

So glad I'm a dude and a gay one at that.

R141 un PC as fuck but very true. To quote the old cliche "At a certain point you stop being a victim and start being a willing participant ". If they kept coming back for more, some of this is on them. This is not to state that the guy wasn't a creep or a sociopath but you have to wonder about this chronic victim types who claim they can never tell a male the word "No ". We've gone from one insane cultural extreme to another. In the past domestic /sex abuse victims were told to keep quiet and automatically blamed. Now they are treated as perpetual victims unable to do anything to help themselves. Ever.

I agree @R73

R143 Yeah, it's completely taboo to talk about in our Never Blame the Victim cultural environment but I think there are a certain number of abusive types (not all ) who only get away with it because people let them. A certain portion of young people, women in particular, seem to have an exaggerated sense of their own helplessness in this country when it comes to sex and dating.

I hear you R146!

I had a bunch of my women friends all sticking up for this poorvtiung woman, who had been shamelessly taken advantage of by this wealthy successful professional guy they all knew.

He's high profile in his profession - and has a public persona - and it's easy to google to see he's twice married, still with this second wife - abd had a few kids. But no - he spun her this story! He takes advantage of young and vulnerable women! He's a predatory scumbag - blah blah blah. Anyway - she got pregnant - refused to abort - wanted to have the baby - and get money coningvin from him regularly to fund her new lifestyle.

Which sounds like an ok deal to me! She wasn't doing much professionally herself - happily helping him - and now was kinda set for the next eighteen years.

But to hear the howls from these women - he's satan! Exploiter of young and innocent!

Ok he's fifty - but she's fucking twenty five. She's not sixteen. And she's a fresking law graduate - from one of the major schools. How naive could she really be? And no one has ever explained birth control to her?? Gimme a break.

She's like so many of the Hollywood types who'll happily do whatever forccateer/financial gain. He wasn't forcing her to come back again and again for months and months. And unlike the landis arsehole - he's not violent

R147 lol I can picture it I have seen similar scenarios play out. Very strange how we are culturally reverting back to the Victorian era mentality of child like innocent women who are at constant risk of being ruined by male improprieties. I think it would be healthier if we could discuss the complexities and grey areas of sex. The world isn't always divided into helpless victims and all powerful predators.

Has his father commented?

I got involved with a guy like this. He took his “nice guy” mask off shortly after we moved in together.

6 weeks in, I told him to pack up his shit, & get the fuck out. I threatened him with police, and it worked. Of course it worked. These guys are cowards, and they usually have skeletons in their closet that make the thought of cops a HUGE threat to them. They fuck almost everyone they know over in one way or another, & they’re not willing to have cops show up, especially with the possibility of having cuffs slapped on them.

Unfortunately, LA is a breeding ground for these assholes. Women, especially when they’re young & inexperienced, need to understand that there are plenty of men out there who date rape, abuse, and fuck women over, for sheer sport.

It’s so important to develop self esteem made out of steel. As soon as someone starts up with this kind of shit, understand that it will ALWAYS get worse, and excise that person, and all affiliations to that person, out of your life.

I don’t blame these women for what happened, however, I do question why so many women, including friends, put up with this kind of shit. Is being single so fucking terrible? Why continue spending time & resources with and on someone who is clearly sadistic, who has zero regard for your welfare and safety?

This is when being a bitch works well. Be kind to everyone, except to assholes who spike your drinks in order to rape you, or who choke you and threaten to kill you. Don’t go back to a hotel room with a man who had spent the majority of the day sexually fondling you in public, at an amusement park. It’s NOT going to end well. Call the police if you have no money to get home. It’s OK to make a fucking scene. Your LIFE could be at stake.

In the New World Order the role of the fish is not to bear children but to work to pay taxes to the usury banking criminals (aka I R S)

Yeah R150 - agreed. And there are always these lame excuses - oh - he isolated me! There was nothing I could do - no escape!

I read the daily beast article. The woman was with him at Disneyland. He was feeling her up at the theme park and behaving like a douche all day long. So you go back to the hotel room with him?

You're at fucking Disneyland! You aren't in the middle of the desert! Go back to the hotel. Go sit in the lobby. Use your cellphone to call or text a friend to come and get you. Or phone a cab or book an uber. You live in LA. Surely you're not flat, stony broke? You have a credit card? Then you can get away.

I'm just really puzzled by the stories that pull this 'Little me..." bullshit. Get the fuck away from him. Oh - but that's right - he has something you want. Status. Money. Entree to the movie industry...

I mean - he's clearly a creep. Not defending him! But wtf do women let him treat them like this when there are sooooo many red flags? When does one take personal responsibility? What's the deal breaker?

When did this turn into a frau commiseration thread? It's so obvious when the posts become all about ME!

⌃⌃ I imagine it's the same sick person adopting various personae. Someone who is very invested in proving that those ultimately responsible for Max Landis's crimes are the victims.

So ugly.

Your tinfoil hat is slipping R112.

I would have much respect and sympathy if these women went to therapy (or the police if a crime has been committed) and dealt with the issues that draws them to any abuse. Instead, they go to the press and start a smear campaign. Very healthy,

All the douchebags in Hollywood are democrats and big Hillary supporters. With Allison Mack and Ed Buck singing like canaries expect many Hillary fundraisers to lose some sleep. Why would so many assholes in Hollywood support Hillary knowing she harassed Bill's rape victims? Because they are women abusers too.

P.s. I know nothing about Landis, this is not an accusation against him.

Shut up R157 just shut up and crawl back into your hole.

R111 you sound like a classic conspiracy idiot. Alison Mack will name no names because no names are involved in that dumb little cult.

I've literally never seen anything this man has written or directed, so he clearly hasn't made much of a mark on the industry. I only know who he is, because of his father and because he was attached to remake An American Werewolf in London, which was his father's film. His father is/was talented, but always came across as a bit douchey. I'm sure he's thrilled that his son's awful behavior has opened up some of his old wounds that he thought most people had forgotten about.

Catherine Deneuve a-t-elle fait un commentaire?

Whoever does Max Landis’ PR, you’re worth every cent. Good thread derail and excellent “well if I were the victim, I’d leave because victims are are gilddigging whores” multiple entries. Hope you all get raises!

R157 -

In the articles about this I've read, one woman was encouraged to go to the police and press charges. She did so. Had the support of her mother and a bff. According to the bff - Landis lawyer showed up at some stage in the process - and was a fucking demon! Really went to town on the accuser -who was already feeling vulnerable - and put her through the wringer and explained (threatened her with) what would happen to her through the the process. The accuser was left an even more traumatised wreck. And eventually decided to abandon the whole thing.

So we forget - rich and well connected people have access to the kind of legal representation that most regular people can barely imagine. It's borderline thuggery - using the workings of the legal system as a standover man would use threats and muscle. So - once it's happened - it's really hard to follow through and achieve anything like justice.

[quote]r157 I would have much respect and sympathy if these women went to therapy (or the police if a crime has been committed)

How do you know they didn't?

I'm the first one to say if the charges are trumped up. I thought the Aziz Ansari and Chris Hardwick articles were absurd.

However, here it seems like more than once he actually raped or attempted to rape. He's disgusting, and dangerous.

R166 you hilight something important; in the Sturm & Drang of false or inflated allegations, real dangerous rapists get away.

He’s a monster!

Lol, r168

Is Max the white or the blue in that conversation?

Max is in grey, whoever shared it is in blue.

Then he's absolutely right.

(Best advice I ever got after a breakup from a friend but not one I knew that well at the time:

Me: "That's it, I don't want anyone else I have to take care of or fix, I want someone who has their shit together already."

Friend (with a dry look): "Would you ever be attracted to someone like that?"

He was right, simple as it was, and I never forgot it. I picked those guys. That was my part of it and more than once. Not their faults entirely, not by a long shot.)

And this crusty shitstain hasn't had his entire body beaten to a pulp for this shit yet because....?

Hollywood poseurs can't throw a punch.

IIRC, buzz about Max being a predator was out since 2012 or 2013. People have been talking about Max & his rape issues for years within the Silverlake hipster scene.

Years ago, I warned a girlfriend of mine about some guy we both knew, who had asked her out on a date. I told her to be careful, because he I knew that he had done 2 years in prison for forceable sodomy. He dropped GHB into a girl’s drink at a party. He drove her home, & the next morning, she woke up to find herself nude on her bedroom floor, with obvious trauma & bruising. She went straight to the hospital, had a rape kit done, filed a police report, the guy was arrested, & the DNA swabbed from her body matched his. Her tox screen showed that she had been drugged. Open & shut case. He served 2 years, & was back out on the prowl.

Anyhow, after I warned my girlfriend, he saw me at a party, & confronted me, telling me that I was slandering him, & that he had never raped anyone, & that I was a liar. I stood my ground & told him to fuck off.

The best part about this story, is that there were a group of guys that he and I knew, who were mutual friends. As a matter of fact, I had known these guys much longer than he had, & they all sided with him. Even though he was a registered sex offender, & anyone could easily search his name on Megan’s Law, & read his charges/conviction, these guys sided with him.

3 years later, he beat the shit out of some girl, & raped her. She was terrified of pressing charges because he had threatened to kill her if she told anyone. She disappeared from the radar, & was never heard from again, & this asshole is still running around, denying that he’s a rapist.

You see? THIS is why women don’t report. Because you can point out a known and convicted rapist to a group of people, & for some strange reason, people (mainly bros) refuse to believe that their buddy’s indeed, a fucking rapist.

So Chloe "Grace" Moretz is in his latest movie.