What’s the beef between Lea Michele and the Glee cast?

Lea’s response:

Harry is still so cute.

Lea Michele is Rachel Berry, she has a very grating personality.

It's not news she didnt get along with some of the Glee cast, Naya and Lea pretty infamously refused to speak to each other.

R3, but it’s strange that 93% of the cast doesn’t associate with her

Lea is a cunt. And she's not that great of an actress/singer, since she's hardly had much success after Glee.

She's released two flop albums and Scream Queens was cancelled.

That one hated that one because of the thing with the one who did the thing to the other one. And let's not forget about the one who fought with that other one about the one who thinged the thing with the one who the previous one wanted to thing.

Maybe they don’t like her because she is unlikable. Seems like a pretty reasonable and simple explanation taking into consideration her rumored personality.

R4 I see what you did there, the other 7% are dead so you mean everyone!

Why would anyone feel the need to hang it with ex coworkers, it was a job she had and it’s done, not a family.

She has some serious esteem/ego issues.

It is cute that so many of the others got together. But not that cute especially if the only response people have is to assume they only bother to see each other in order to show off excluding her for being 'just like her character' on a show about high schoolers that is celebrating an anniversary.

They are all pretty meh when it comes to subsequent success. But considering the death count and genuine distress suffered by some in that cast - I think they are doing pretty well to have these cute throwback 'battles.'

R11, I highly doubt that they are having get-togethers solely to stick it to that bitch Lea Michele, I mean like really.

Next month is the anniversary of Cory Montieth's death, I wonder if Lea will post something?

R12

That is the entire topic of this thread. I agree that they are not having get togethers to show off excluding anyone. They are trying to keep something positive going in their own careers by celebrating the show that made them famous.

Its the 10 year Anniversary of Glee...

I don't see anything wrong or sinister when former colleagues, or schoolmates, come together for a drink or two when they are in the same town.

Dianna, Kevin and others all follow Lea but she won’t follow them back (Instagram)

R11 Why Heather be so shiny?

[quote]She's released two flop albums and Scream Queens was cancelled.

Don't forget "The Mayor."

The mayor was a great show

Ryan Murphy said that Scream Queens is likely coming back on Netflix.

R5 What success have any of the rest of them had? Darren has Versace, Harry has that Shadowhunters show, Chris has his books. But all the others have done is make even less successful music than Lea.

Lea caught Darren sucking Cory's dick in Ryan's trailer.

[quote] What success have any of the rest of them had? Darren has Versace, Harry has that Shadowhunters show, Chris has his books. But all the others have done is make even less successful music than Lea.

Melissa Benoist is the lead in Supergirl and Grant Gustin is the lead in The Flash. IMO apart from Darren Criss they probably had the most successful Hollywood careers so far post-Glee.

I want to fuck Harry!

I liked the feel good nature of the Mayor. But, at that time, a few feel-good entertainment got canceled like Kevin (Probably) Saves The World.

Jenna won a Tony, Amber won an Oliver, Kevin released two smash hit singles

Lea Michele is awful. She’s another celebrity whose fame makes me question reality. She’s the most irritating geek girl in the world and somehow she’s simultaneously a cooler than thou diva.

Horrible.

[quote]Melissa Benoist is the lead in Supergirl and Grant Gustin is the lead in The Flash.

I must not have watched the later seasons of Glee at all. I don't even remember them being on the show. I wonder if Grant will have a career post-Flash.

R29 I think both Melissa and Grant will be fine once their Arrowverse shows are over.

R28

She is 100% known from Glee. That is all. It isn't some mysterious unearned fame it is from a single hit TV show. As for her capacity to continue work there is no reason to think she can't go back to where she started before Glee (Broadway) and continue to get work. Her voice is fine and she moves well. She may not actually have what it takes to get on Broadway as Elphaba but she could probably go a pretty good Jenna in Waitress.

It isn't as if she is some Kardashian trash whose fame is related to photoshopping her fat ass on instagram and reality TV.

Where's Naya?

Did she fall out with the 97%?

[quote]Ryan Murphy said that Scream Queens is likely coming back on Netflix.

That's so weird. When Netflix gave him $300 million, you know they weren't expecting him to resurrect a flop show.

Something tells me they'll have trouble getting Glen back. Which would suck because Chad was one of the best things about Scream Queens.

I actually quite enjoyed the first season of Scream Queens. Is the second season worth watching?

R35 no

R35 it's not as fun. Unless you're a huge fan of Kirstie Alley or Taylor Lautner.

Oh and [italic]this[/italic] scene.

[quote]What’s the beef between Lea Michele and the Glee cast?

What's all this about Michele Lee's beef curtains?

[quote] Something tells me they'll have trouble getting Glen back.

They killed off his character in the second season. Scream Queens wasn't an Anthology show. The actors from the second season kept playing the characters from the first season.

[quote]That's so weird. When Netflix gave him $300 million, you know they weren't expecting him to resurrect a flop show.

Ryan said that Lea, Emma and Billie kept wanting him to resurrect the show. Frankly, they all need the paycheck. Lea has been reduced to doing adverts on her Instagram to pay the bills.

That Funny Girl revival that Ryan was going to do with Lea is going nowhere. I think Ryan finally came to his senses.

Is Emma really struggling to get roles these days??

Given the absurdist nature of the show they could bring whoever back they wanted if it came down to it r39.

But yes the show was already losing the charm it had in season 2.

Lea comes from a family of low-level thugs who were too STUPID to not get caught. She spent her childhood visiting her grandfather in prison where he was locked in a cage like a gorilla. She has no education outside of fashion magazines and supermarket tabloids. The older she gets the more embarrassing her total lack of any skill for interacting with anyone with half a brain will become. She will not and cannot be able to engage in any meaningful way with anyone who has even the slightest edge in society, so basically her only hope is to not get too ugly too soon so she can continue to whore herself for as long as possible. After that, she will be a miserable shell of nothingness. Her cast, and especially EMMY WINNING, EDUCATED, COLLEGE GRADUATE, Darren Criss would do better to close her out. She’s a liability to anyone who’d associate with her and she’s a pathetic JOKE. It might be easier to cut her some slack if she were decent in any way, but she’s a lowlife, cruel thug just like her jailbait family.

I can’t imagine having such passionate feelings for Lea Michelle.

R44, Clearly you never worked on Glee or in any capacity on Spring Awakening on Broadway. She’ll never be the star of anything again, but when she was, she made sure everyone had to eat her sh**. The tales are legendary. She made Hallie Steinfeld cry. She made a Below the line person who’d seen it all for decades in Hollywood quit the Glee set right on the spot. There are plenty who have passionate hatred for Lea. Bad politics on her part. They say a kindness is often forgotten, an insult never is. You’d think an Italian princess would have that one figured out. She’s...unWISE.

People in OP's pic actually look like a bunch of friends having a low-key drink at the of the day while there isn't a single pristine emotion visible in Michele's try-hard pic. I hope that bitch will be the next one to succumb to the Glee curse.

Scream Queen was absolute horseshit from start to finish, eye candy aside.

R43

Jailbait doesn't mean what you think it means.

The rest of your post is kind of creepy and unhinged.

R45 I wanted to hear more about Lea making Hailey Steinfeld cry, it gives me renewed respect for her. What are the details, is there video or photos of It?

Jonathan Groff likes her, right? What about the rest of the Spring Awakening cast?

[quote] What’s the beef between Lea Michele and the Glee cast?

hmmm. I'm going to have to go with, "She is a GIGANTIC BITCH" for $1,000, Alex

She thought this show would make her the # 1 movie star in the entire world and that she was the Star of the show. She will not and was not either of these things

She should’ve stayed on Broadway

R43, you’re so much smarter than me. Not unhinged, my dear, who’s oh-so-above-it-all but participating on DATALOUNGE. Just been there right on the front lines, and it is REMARKABLE.

No matter how much of a cunt she is,I will always love her as Rachel from the 1st 2 seasons of Glee.No one else could have been Rachel.

She's my dream girl. I have a big nose fetish.

[Quote] She made a Below the line person who’d seen it all for decades in Hollywood quit the Glee set right on the spot.

Feel free to elaborate....

Apparently Jacob Artist went into a severe, deep depression once he was let go from the show. This was back in 2014 and they say he’s still pretty reclusive now.

Jacob Artist is quite the cutie. It’s sad that his firing really hit him hard.

I think it’s the way they did it also. They didn’t even give them a heads up, they found out before filming their final scenes that they were being dropped.

The only one they brought back was Becca Tobin as Kitty. PS she has a show on E! That I enjoy

I didn't know that about Jacob Artist. I quit watching the show before it ended, but I thought Jacob was great. And he is really cute. I think his career will be fine. There are worse things than being fired from Glee. The writing was shit. He can do better.

The thing is the new kids of season 4 were like their own family, jumping head first into this big hit series and taking over pretty much. It’s a shame that the public never connected with them and only cared about the original cast.

What’s funny is that season 6 brought in NEW new kids and the public actually liked them, but by then no one cared and it was too late. The viewers were gone.

But if Ryan Murphy created the season 6 characters during season 4 things would be different. They were original characters vs. replicas of the originals.

Wow, he is a cutie. Hasn’t posted since October of last year. Hope he’s doing okay

Oops

R62 is he already going bald? That’s the worst when you lose your hair young.

I thought Harry was going to be in the Crazy, Rich, Asians sequel as a main character.

R64 that’s the plan if they follow the book, which focuses more on Gemma Chan’s character and Constance Wu’s is Supporting in the second and third book.

Ryan Murphy has a Tony now.

Jacob Artists is/was super cute. I had a little crush on him when he joined and felt he was way cuter than his half brother Puck

He just played gay on Now Apocalypse earlier this year.

He was also on Quantico

Lea has been picked for the highly coveted leading role in the next hit biopic: "Witchiepoo: The Billy Hayes Story." She's sure to get the Oscar.

^^^ But can she sing Oranges Poranges?

[quote]Where's Naya?

[quote]Did she fall out with the 97%?

I think Naya only had issues with Lea.

Do you hang with all your ex coworkers? Just because they worked together does not make them soul mates.

Naya only had a falling out with Lea and Mark Salling after they broke up and she keyed his car

^^^ Did she find child porn on his phone?

R76, she did trash him on ET for being busted on child porn. Kevin Mchale and other cast mates were pissed when Naya threw him under the bus, preferring everyone stick together and give him the benefit of the doubt

She thinks she’s the next Barbra Streisand.

[Quote] Kevin Mchale and other cast mates were pissed when Naya threw him under the bus, preferring everyone stick together and give him the benefit of the doubt

Good on Naya for not listening to them.

I think the othes were concerned about their residual checks. Like the cast of 7th Heaven when it got dropped thanks to Steven Collins' pedo scandal.

I haven’t followed Lea’s career. Does she still have one?

Do the Glee guys hang around with Chris Colfer and vice versa?

I thought the black girl was supposed to become the next Jennifer Hudson.

Dianna Agron has arguably had the most successful film career out of the cast. She also married extremely well: her husband has Grammys and his father is a billionaire.

They never invite the little handicapable girl, do they?

[quote]Dianna Agron has arguably had the most successful film career out of the cast.

Uh, what? She’s in movies? I’ve never seen a movie of hers.

So it seems the cast is very clickish. They always exclude Lea, Naya, Chris Colfer, Heather, Jacob, Grant, Melissa Bemoist, Mark, Becca, Cory, Matt, and Jane.

r87, LOL Cory Monteith & Mark Saling are both dead. You want the others to drag their corpses into selfie group shots?

Wouldn’t hurt.

R87 why would they invite the new kids? The new kids and them hardly worked together. They shared very few scenes ever. I’m sure they didn’t get close to them because of it.

Also Lea only hangs out with Darren, whose had much success.

R80 Jessica Biel is probably the only one who's not worrying about that.

R85 Do you mean the one who just won a Tony? I’m sure that is wrecking Lea to the core. Or do you mean the one with Downs Syndrome?

Ali Stroker only did a few episodes of Glee. The actress with Down Syndrome likely didn't become friends with main cast members. I find it odd that Ryan Murphy has never offfered that actress jobs on his other shows.

They never include the token fatties.

This appears to be Stroker's first gig, not Glee. Not even The Glee Project.

She waves her hand in front of the 'where is your vagina' sign and then is seen snorting coke off Rachels' mermaid butt.

Billie needs a paycheck? You must be joking.

Lea was the highest paid on the show.

[quote]I thought the black girl was supposed to become the next Jennifer Hudson.

She sort of was.

[quote]Apparently Jacob Artist went into a severe, deep depression once he was let go from the show. This was back in 2014 and they say he’s still pretty reclusive now.

I volunteer to personally condole him.

Jacob Artist was cuter than Blake Jenner imho

I didn't know that Darren and his wife own that bar.

r32, she has been in Step Up: High Water. It's a Fame like series (Not Glee Club but performance arts school) on Youtube.

She is faculty.

Naya would do better if she didn’t act like a total bitch to people.

r59, he has been working steadily, I don't believe that other post

Work doesn’t mean one can’t be depressed.

I'm pretty shocked that he turned down Julliard for dance. Said he didn't want to have regret about not pursing acting. Couldn't he have done both. He moved out to LA at 17 after high school haven't gotten into Julliard for dance. Could have been a different career. He might be the star of some show by now.

r86, I saw her in The Family

Looked her up on IMDb she's been working, but they must be direct to DVD or something because I haven't seen the theatrical release of them.

Ah, Berlin, I love you - should make it in the big screen and Ralph Breaks the Internet was.

5 people appeared in 121 episodes of the show and three of them were considered major leads. Lea, Chris Colfer, Jane Lynch, Matthew Morrison and Kevin McHale.

Lea isn't the only person from Glee who did not show up for drinks in OPs pic.

I get but don't get the need to confirm the idea that Lea must have been a massive bitch on par with whoever OP hated the most in high school in her own life. But with the deaths and overdoses and Salling being a pedophile it is genuinely fucked up for people to obsess over the idea that Lea was the absolute worst person ever and should get super snubbed as righteous punishment from the other child-star survivors of the show. The show had some creepy, self destructive stuff going on that isn't even vaguely related to some half Italian girl being too smug about her talent.

[quote] The actress with Down Syndrome likely didn't become friends with main cast members. I find it odd that Ryan Murphy has never offfered that actress jobs on his other shows.

Yeah, she should have played Bette Davis in Feud.

Wasn't Cory considered a lead?

She’s a Streisand wannabe.

Lea is almost as ugly as Babs, I'll give her that.

R100 definitely

R109, she’s not just simply “smug about her talent.” She is devastatingly and prettily cruel about and to others. She used to make it a point at parties in LA to laugh to everyone how “crazy” and “old” Stephanie J. Block was. Now Block is married to a successful, Yale-educated TV and theatre actor, has a beautiful child, constantly works on Broadway, has respect and love from her community (Lea ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT) and she just won a Tony. Even Ryan Murphy has a Tony now. Lea is probably trashing her house right now or at very least, emasculating her husband, because, you know, someone’s gonna pay. Sorry, Lea. Have fun, Witchiepoo. What a far cry from Elphaba. Guess not everybody gets what she wants. Go snort some OxyContin. I hear it’s your therapy.

[quote]Yeah, she should have played Bette Davis in Feud.

No, but she could have played Bette's retarded daughter Margot.

Gurl, I know exactly how she feels. Nobody ever invites me to the Fame reunions. When you're a diva, people don't think you have feelings.

I wonder how Lea feels about Darren hanging out with the others? Dianna recently followed Lea (her first public gesture since 2012) on IG and tagged her in a photo. Lea ignored it and didn’t follow back. Seems like she really holds grudges cause Dianna seems like a sweetheart

R115

WTF

She bullied SJB at a party? Are you seriously pretending there is a Lea v Block rivalry based on Wicked? Because that is weird. Fun, I guess, but irrational. What is your source?

I am stunned that anyone would think Lea and SJB have any opinion of each other.

Cory was a lead but died.

Lea Michele has some talent but no star quality. She also continuously compares her self to Streisand, which is ridiculous on her part and an insult to Streisand. What she is dong is reminding the public that she is average at best and well below Barbra in talent, looks, and any career she might have. Surprising because her manager Jason Weinberg is quite intelligent. She is at this point a sympathy client, which is like a sympathy fuck without the orgasm.

For some reason, Joan Rivers hated Lea Michele.

The truth of the matter is Lea needs to do something drastic and reinvent herself so people quit thinking she and her character Rachel are one in the same. Someone mentioned taking a swing at Waitress, which might be a good start. Do you think she could pull off Carol in Beautiful, they kind of look alike in this image. That show had got to start flagging soon and it would be a great way to inject some new energy.

My impression is that there were seriously messed up problems on the set of Glee that resulted in one guy overdosing and another killing himself after being arrested for child porn.

Publicists however appeared to work full time hammering away at the idea that Lea Michele and her diva ways was the only real problem. She is an unlikable tryhard girl. Ugh. What a MONSTER.

I'm not saying this is victim blaming or anything - but I think she was being used to cover up actual problems and the actual problems were the serious mental illness issues starting with Salling and going from there.

Cory was an addict before getting the Glee gig. He was a Greeter at Walmart before getting Glee and a recovering addict.

Mark was raised in a Christian cult.

Calling SAG because “unsafe” working conditions is totally something Rachel Berry would do

[quote]Looked her up on IMDb she's been working, but they must be direct to DVD or something because I haven't seen the theatrical release of them.

Eldergay alert. What the hell is a DVD?

Agron has two movies scheduled for release this year: one with Helen Mirren and Keira Knightley, and the other with Andy Garcia (she seems to be a lead in that one). She was in Novitiate with Melissa Leo last year. I give her credit for at least attempting different things and not crawling back to Ryan Murphy, begging him for another role. She's extremely pretty and photogenic but short on actual ability, but she tries.

Dianna Agron also was on tour, doing small venues for her Jazz music. It was lovely! She’s not some great vocalist but she knows how to work what she has.

She and Murphy didn’t get along toward the end of season 3 there. She was very upset with what he did to her character.

Lea is basically an on-pitch screamer. She is not a good actress and doesn't dance.

Even Barbra Streisand is overrated. Yes, she had a strong voice in her time and could perform good comic shtick, but she was never a brilliant actress and she's cross-eyed. Streisand and Bette Midler are two of the luckiest people in the world. They've been able to make millions on a one-note talent.

Joan Rivers hated her because of the OTT way Lea posed and behaved on each and every red carpet r122. Rivers wasn’t the only one who hated it, and was right, it was truely obnoxious. I’ve added a link but this isn’t even the worst of it. In this one she’s being very tame. I have no idea if Lea still does it because I haven’t seen her on red carpet in a long time, thankfully.

She is more talented so they hate her

Lea's best bet is to hope that Idina Menzel gets a series where they need to cast someone to play her daughter.

Hi Lea R131!

[quote]They never include the token fatties

Ashley Fink who played the fat white girl in seasons 1 and 2 was only friends with Chris Colfer.

R130 remember the Jessica Lange snub of Lea?

R125

Exactly. At one time the ridiculously unwarranted hate hyped up by publicists against an actress just seemed like random misogynist fun. But once Corey died and Salling was arrested it really confuses me that no one seems to think all the publicist approved joyful bashing of Lea Michele was a diversion from the real problems going down.

Lea saw Glee as STARRING LEA MICHELE, the rest of the cast thought it was an ensemble.

[quote]Yeah, she should have played Bette Davis in Feud.

She'd have played it better than Susan Sarandon did.

Worked a film festival a few years ago. Dianna was there with Novitiate and she couldn't have been nicer to fans. She even waved to the box office staff as she left the building.

Dianna’s cover of Carole King’s “So Far Away” is so gorgeous. I know her character was portrayed as someone who didn’t really care about singing or show choir but she has such a lovely tone to her voice. Darren Criss got like 30 solos compared to her 4 or 5 throughout the show

Jessica Lange hates Lea.

Jessica should be hating the bug-eyed cunt Susan. Lea isn't worth the effort.

R141 my favorite gif evah!

The hate is weird and pathological, I think.

I will admit that i have never seen an episode of Glee. I also have no interest in Spring Awakening. But don't you feel weird pretending the 'high school bitchyness' celebrated by the hate blogs and tabloids is in any way appropriate today? She is 32 years old, married and still working. As it turns out, rolling her eyes, snapping her fingers and not coming out of her trailer to sign autographs for a fan that wasn't supposed to be there WASN'T the worst thing going on on the set of Glee.

It would make so much more sense to me if people were obsessing over how fucking creepy Sallings and his uber Xtian background was and whether Naya was made to sign waivers whitewashing HIS behavior when coming out with her weird 'tell all' book and complaints.

Two young men killing themselves is an indication that shit was happening on that set that had nothing to do with girls being passive aggressive about eye contract and who sits at whose table at lunch.

Ryan Murohy didn't sugarcoat it. He called the set of Glee a fucking shitshow.

The thing is it wasn't even a very good show. The first half of the first season was excellent, but it quickly took a nosedive into shit.

You could tell who was kissing ass and who was getting shafted by the end of the first season.

And when Criss came on, you could tell who was fucking Murphy.

R145 and it was his fault

Leah is so talented. The rest of them just can’t even compare. They must all be getting analysis because of it.

I am not Lea

R144 Salling and Corey has problems that existed long before the show. Since when has a persons workplace been the reason he became a pedo. Stalling had misogynistic qualities but that doesn’t mean Naya knew he was a pedo. Do you know what your work colleagues, even the ones you may have dated or are friends with, are googling when they’re at home? She might be a grade A bitch but it doesn’t mean she knew about about his issues. Would you have confided in her if you were him? Just like Lea is not responsible for Corey’s OD. Adults are responsible for their own behaviour outside work hours.

I also don’t think you understand what pathological means.

Murphy created that shit show by playing favorites, but Sailing and Monteith's addictions existed long before Glee. To try and draw a correlations between their deaths and the toxicity on the set is a huge leap. If anything, they kept that stuff far away from the set. Monteith was alone in a god damn hotel room in Canada when he died.

I'm all for calling out misogyny, but Lea's reputation as insufferable long preceded her time on Glee. And good Lord stop with the Murphy is a predator shit. That myth has been dispelled several times over here by people who worked on the set of Murphy's shows. Fact is, Murphy is good at spotting talent.

And to whoever said Diana Agron is the most successful of the cast, Darren Criss' Emmy, Golden Globe, Critics Choice and SAG awards beg to differ.

It was a hit and adult guest stars (like Chenoweth, Goop, Mike O'Malley) got to shine. But the satirical base of the shows comedy was clearly lost on many immature fans.

Don't you care that I was raped in Ibiza?

Salling was a major Trump supporter based on his tweets up until death. I know he was really close with Darren Criss, they’re always seen together in the behind the scenes features. I wonder who will be the first to speak on Salling, they all try to act like it didn’t happen. Kevin and Jenna have a podcast where they dish about Glee stuff (neutral, boring stuff. Ala, what they ate on the glee tours) but they slipped and mentioned Salling once. But only referred to him as “Puck” and there was no tea

Regardless of how they feel, why would ANYONE bring up their coworker/friend who was arrested for massive amounts of kiddie porn? Yeah, HARD PASS.

I did think it was crazy that Salling was living in the ghetto.

R123 yes! Let's see who does it better. Lea or Melissa?

R153 I hate to break it to you but his support of Trump was not the worst of his personality. No one is going to bring up the pedo. There’s either “I had no idea” which is the beginning and end of that conversation or “I was suspicious because he said a few creepy things about young girls but I never said anything to anyone” which means an avalanche of backlash will hit the actor who admits that.

So everyone is just going to never mention him again. Accept it.

[quote]What’s funny is that season 6 brought in NEW new kids and the public actually liked them, but by then no one cared and it was too late. The viewers were gone. But if Ryan Murphy created the season 6 characters during season 4 things would be different. They were original characters vs. replicas of the originals.

Who were the season 4 kids everyone hated? And who were the season 6 kids everyone loved?

Ryan Murphy always made his characters kind of loathsome. The discomfort when they were awful people is where the comedy came from. Rachel Berry was cringeworthy in a very familiar way. But Glee was not a documentary or a guidebook for how fans should live and make value judgments. The bitchy stuff was fun and Smash deserved it. But with Glee, when the curse kicked in, people really should have dropped the game of hating on the nerd girl.

Also the misogynistic mentality which let people enjoy hating on a completely harmless actress who clearly DOESN'T have problems (Anne Hathaway and Brie Larson enjoy the same attention) while covering up, enabling and encouraging genuinely bad and self destructive behaviors by people whose problems are literally killing them sucks. It is annoying when it happens in normal life in small communities -- but when you've got a publicity machine and tabloid press making money off this behavior it is worse.

[quote]Who were the season 4 kids everyone hated? And who were the season 6 kids everyone loved?

You know you can check the wikipedia page and see that. There was a group of actors brought in for Season 4, then fired in Season 5. A new group of actors who who were brought in for Season 6.

I do agree with the earlier poster who thought the new characters for Season 6 were more interesting, but yes by then it was far too late. The season 4 characters were boring, Marley was a terrible attempt at a new lead. I felt bad for Melissa Benoist that she was straddled with this nothing character.

[Quote] I felt bad for Melissa Benoist that she was straddled with this nothing character.

Ehh she's doing pretty good these days.

So where Darrin Criss, Grant Gustin, Chord Overstreet, Trevor Donovan, Melissa Bemoist the new season 4 characters or the season 6 characters?

Guys, what's DL's Goss on Jonathan Groff? I quite like him, but then, why is he so close to Lea Michele tho????

R161 Darren Criss and Chord Overstreet were introduced during season 2. They were in school with the originals.

Grant Gustin was a recurring Guest Star for season 3. He was never a main character.

Mellisa Benoist, Becca Tobin, Jacob Artist and a few others were the season 4 new kids. They were let go midway through season 5 when they revamped the show to focus on Rachel, Kurt and Santana in NYC.

Season 6 brought new new kids.

[quote]And to whoever said Diana Agron is the most successful of the cast, Darren Criss' Emmy, Golden Globe, Critics Choice and SAG awards beg to differ.

Literally no one said that here.

[quote]Most of the main cast (Kevin, Harry, Jenna, Dianna, Amber, Chord, Darren Criss) met up last night for drinks.

It's subliminal promo for Darren Criss's business, he owns the bar.

Lea Michele doesn't mingle with the Glee hoi polloi unless she's the queen bee of the event.

r161, Trevor Donovan was never in Glee. He was in the 90210 reboot that started about a decade ago (ran from 2009 to 2013).

The Glee fandom has this weird obsession with Chris Colfer. Kurt is cool, but he’s hardly my favorite character. The fandom loves to turn every discussion about the show into something about Colfer or Klaine and I finally get why the show crashed and burned like it did. Ryan, Ian etc. listened to these crazed nutcases and turned the show into Kurt and Blaine hour. It became less about show choir and the satirical humor and more about PSA on gay relationships. Which is cool, I’m gay so it’s whatever. But why couldn’t Klaine just be a backdrop to the satirical elements

It's hard now to remember how hot this show was. Beloved even. Now you get queasy when you think of it. It's not even all that old and it hasn't aged well.

Melissa Benoist was only cool with Kevin Mchale and Alex Newell (Kevin is the most neutral in the cast and will befriend anyone. He was probably the only one still on speaking terms with Mark Salling up until he died) She did not want to return and shoot the final number despite rumors she was filming Supergirl. She was not filming the show at the time all of the cast filmed the I Lived number. I remember Lea photo shopping her out of the season 5 upfront and posting it on Instagram. She claimed it was a mistake on behalf of her “team”

I have worked with many celebrities over the years. I work in radio. I can honestly say the ONLY celebrity of the many I’ve come into contact with over the past 15 years or so who was a total nasty bitch was Lea Michele. I mean...shockingly nasty. It just so happened there were some children in the building that day for some taping of something and when asked if Lea would take a picture with the kids she was like NO PICTURES! Her publicist, also seemingly shocked by her behavior, tried to cover for her by telling us “oh she had a late night and she hasn’t had breakfast yet”. To this day when people ask me “who’s the worst you ever worked with”, I unequivocally say Lea Michele before the question is even finished.

R170 Gasp....Won't somebody think of the children?

R6 nailed it

Thanks R170, it’s always interesting to hear what insiders see.

[quote] Thanks [R170], it’s always interesting to hear what Dataloungers can make up out of thin air

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R174, I think it’s funny how DLers rate themselves so lowly that you believe no one truly in the know would ever post here. It says more about you than it does about those of us who have seen things firsthand. Like access to the cast of Glee is some sort of huge mythical achievement.

Exactly r175. There used to be many more insiders here but endless shouting down of them ended that. Plus Lea Michelle is just an actress, not Big Foot, people have actually met her. This story isn’t so OTT that it’s impossible to believe, unless r174 is do sheltered they think famous people are mythical creatures.

R176 people lying is what made us yell at them.

[quote] (Lea's) only hope is to not get too ugly too soon

Oh honey, that ship sailed a loooong time ago.

[quote](Kevin is the most neutral in the cast and will befriend anyone. He was probably the only one still on speaking terms with Mark Salling up until he died

Not true.

[quote]But why couldn’t Klaine just be a backdrop to the satirical elements

Exactly my point to Baroness Murphy. Didn't go over well.

R179, that’s most definitely true. Kevin was the only one liking Mark’s tweets in 2016 (he was charged in nov-December of 2015) and kept in touch up until his death.

The show started as satire, but when it became a hit with young kids it became a teen soap opera. Klaine made the kids and fraus go "aaaaaw!". And she show took full advantage of their demographic and released all the songs of the show on iTunes. That would not have happened with the show remaining a satire with such biting commentary too mature, and dark, for kids and teen audiences.

There's nothing criminal about liking a pedophile's tweets. What a lil adventure that cast had. R182 describes its promise well. It was a dark satire with unexpected twists and tunes for the first two seasons. Then the kids loved it and it became an autoned soap opera. The autotune of Glee influenced much more than people realize in the recording of singers who can actually sing. It got young kids hooked on that special sweet insect compression. So Michael Buble says he has to use it to record because his records won't sound right without it and he sounds so much better live with a band. Ariana and Xtina use it though they can sing beautifully without it. Not talking just about for effects but the whole sound of pop and hip hop and rap recordings....

I stopped watching after than because I am almost 40. But Lea Michele is a pretty fine vocalist, I don't get the hate about that. Nobody was autotuning she or Amber until they had to to deliver the "sound" of GLEE. Back to Lea. To be honest I think she had about 50 thrilling moments in the two years I watched the show. She deserves a Broadway lead. And she sang her ass off on her first album. But the truth is - the better a woman can sing POP music right now, the less likely she will sell records. Jessie J, Esperanza Spalding, Lea, Sara Bareilles, Xtina, Kelly and Pink all fight for the bottom of the chart.

The R&B girls have at it and some them can sing a bit. Ariana is queen of the charts but she had to downgrade her vocals. Beyonce can sing her has off but she seldom does anymore. Lea Michele could blow Ariana into another stadium and the purity, power and resonance of her voice just don't come around everyday.

She shouldn't have tried to be Barbra Streisand, because she was too close but nowhere near the same. That's too bad because Lea is quite a phenomenal singer.

The problem was that Lea overplayed her hand and burned bridges left and right. Especially after she milked Cory's overdose for her own gain making her look like some grieving widow. Of course Ryan was impressed by her ruthlessness which she framed as her doing him and Glee a favor by going out there and doing PR for the show.

I sound like I am from another planet at R183. What kind of fucked up syntax and misspelling disaster is that? I started and got distracted, then returned to the post. No proofreading. These gummy bears are good. Still. Lea can sing. She's got some uncertain low notes but her belting voice is fool proof. This is pretty terrible to be honest - but her bad is still good.

The first 13 episodes were produced before the show aired. Then they were a hit, and the second half of season 1, you can already see the success going to Murphy's head in the writing. Season 2, all bets were off, and it declined from there.

R171 well in this case, it wouldn't have killed her to.

Glee was supposed to be a 12-13 episode series. The mid season finale was going to be a series finale but the show took off and became a phenomenon so they added episodes and picked it up as a regular series.

R188, it wasn't *supposed* to be only 12 ep. Shows get initial orders and if they're successful they get renewed. The backorder came within a month of the show starting in September 2009.

She became insufferable when she thought she was getting “Funny Girl” but when that project never came to be the rest of the cast basically rubbed it in her face. Plus guilt by association with Monteith, and she was basically enabling him.

R188 they didn’t think it would get picked up for more. And the order came in October.

I thought both Glee and Desperate Housewives were so called mid-season shows which became regular shows with more episodes after they turned out to be hits?

R191, nobody knew what the response would be until the show aired. The pilot was out in the spring and caught on but the show aired in the fall of 2009. Wiki says the fall premiere was Sept 9 and the backorder came on Sept 21, not even in October.

Obviously nobody would be writing backorder episodes BEFORE they were ordered by the network.

She is too short for that gesture.

Colfer doesn't seem to still be friends with anyone except the fat girl

Colfer is close with Ashley Fink, Amber Reilly and some of the older actors, and he's friendly with most of the cast.

But he's avoided anything to do with Darren Criss ever since the fan craze around Kurt and Blaine and the conspiracy theories that he and Criss are a secret item lol. The Glee fandom also scared him away from social media.

I find her hideous yet inexplicably thirsty and conceited. That Jessica Lange footage is absolutely hysterical. She walks in front of her AND completely ignores her? Priceless. And you know she was PISSED her horrendous attempts at pop stardom bombed.

Didn’t Murphy and co. fire Ashley Fink to spite Colfer. He spilled the beans on the alleged spinoff to the press and pissed Murphy off.

R198 I remember that rumor and I think there was truth to it.

Colfer didn't spill any beans. Murphy opened his big mouth that he, Lea Michele and Cory Monteith won't be coming back. Colfer was doing press for his Emmy nom the next day and was accosted by reporters with that question. He said he found out that he'd be out of the show from twitter.

But he wasn't allowed to mention the spinoff plans so he just said something noncommittal like, maybe the show should should graduate the characters instead of keeping them in HS for 6 seasons.

Then Murphy gave another interview or two where he threw the actors under the bus for allegedly killing the spinoff. It was entirely his own fault, and Falchuk's who had some spat with the entertainment press in the meantime.

This became known in Glee lore as GraduationGate. And subsequent events made people think that it was a big reason for the fallout between Murphy and Colfer.

Here is the final Murphy interview in the graduation gate saga where he at long last admits it was his fault all along. But not before throwing the actors under the bus for his own mistake.

r160, she straddled enough back in the day.

I hated her and I hated her future ex-husband. The drag queen was okay and they just made Kitty into the bitch that Diana Aragon's Quinn was to favored to be.

[Quote] she straddled enough back in the day.

This could be interpreted in a few different ways 😄

Hey OP do you keep in touch with everyone you worked with ten years ago? Why should actors?

[quote] Didn’t Murphy and co. fire Ashley Fink to spite Colfer.

Fink was hired to punish Sailing for something. Later the writers couldn't find anything for her to do, so she was gone.

She's from the Helen Rhymes With Hunt School of Narcissism

Still makes no sense to blame the actors for playing dumb when being asked by the press about "being fired". They couldn't say that there are plans for a spin off and they are involved.

Murphy acts like the actors backstabbed him somehow, or threw him under the bus when they were put in an awkard situation dealing with the press.

The whole PR for the show was a total shitshow. Remember when Murphy made this big announcement that Anne Hathaway would guest star on the show and later Anne Hathaway said that nothing came out of it and she was still waiting for further details from Murphy when she should show up? Or the time Murphy dissed some music act for not wanting their music to be on the show and then had to backtrack that it's their right to refuse or something like that? And then wagging his finger at the audience for being so invested in Cory Monteith's death? Or flipping the shit out when some spoiler got posted about the prom King and Queen story when people still cared about the show? Ryan Murphy is not very good with handling the press by himself at all. But sure, the actors were in the wrong.

Glee started out great. Then someone decided every stereotype in existence had to be played out on the show. The “religious” girl gets knocked up, the gay badger is secretly gay, etc. etc.

[Quote] the gay badger

🤔🤔🤔

[quote]Then Murphy gave another interview or two where he threw the actors under the bus for allegedly killing the spinoff.

Why would telling people about the show kill the show? That makes no sense. Is the show like a reverse Tinkerbell? The more people who know about it, the more it ceases to exists?

R162 It seems there's something happened between Lea and Groff.Their relationship is not as close as before in the past year.

[quote]Remember when Murphy made this big announcement that Anne Hathaway would guest star on the show and later Anne Hathaway said that nothing came out of it and she was still waiting for further details from Murphy when she should show up?

No, we don't, could you provide a link?

Way back when "Glee" first became a hit, I remember friends working on Broadway who said "Sometimes good things happen to bad people" when I asked them about Lea.

[quote]Why would telling people about the show kill the show? That makes no sense.

The point is that none of the three actors involved in the spinoff plans talked about it to the media.

In the interview that started the whole mess, Murphy created a false impression by saying they are out of the show without mentioning the spinoff plans. Naturally, the media and the fans were left to conclude that Glee is getting rid of its two main characters and one breakout character by graduating them into the sunset. The actors were blindsided by this interview because they weren't given a heads up and were confused how to take Murphy's statement. Fans freaked out on twitter that the actors were gone from the show for good.

Then the producers got more pissy, accusing the media for "misreporting" and the actors for not reading Murphy's mind or whatever.

The issue is that the stars were not briefed in advance WHAT to say to the press. Murphy ran his mouth to the press, the press ran to the stars for a comment and they didn't know what to say without revealing the potential spin-off so they acted surprised and that made Murphy look bad for not letting the stars know that they are apparently fired.

[R211] Idk I saw him as maid of honor at her wedding, was that not recent? Does Groff have any social media? Doesn't seem to be

Groff and Lea are thick as thieves. Nothing has changed...methinks he knows shit about her that he’ll take to the grave

That list was confirmed fake.

R212

I remember Hathaway was supposed to be in Glee. Did that ever happen?

Would you invite your coworkers to your wedding?

R219 it never happened.

Bump

Preach

The beef is that Lea Michele liked to beef too much. She found it hilarious to load up on sauerkraut and baked beans just before they had to shoot a major musical number, and she would then feign innocence as each of her "silent but deadly" gifts to the cast and crew would linger around the soundstage.