Ryan Idol

His release date is August of 2023

Does he still have that mullet?

Dammmm, still 4 1/2 years to go.

I worked with him in Making Porn. They should tack on another 20 years for bad acting and being as asshole.

R4 Tell me more, tell me more!

Happy to share memories of Ryan and Making Porn. By the time I worked with him his looks were shot and he had saggy bitch tits. He showed up for the tour with his pitiful belongs in a trash bag. He's a terrible actor and doing scenes with him was painful. He would turn and face the audience every time he said a line. Of course the audience ate it up because it just added to the whole camp experience. Ryan sold his videos in the lobby after the show and loved any kind of attention. He was a loose cannon and the producer was warned not to work with him. Ryan punched the playwright when the show was in Chicago. The police were summoned and he was led out of the theatre in handcuffs. The audience laughed because they thought it was part of the show. He ended up going off the rails in Miami and the last five performances were cancelled leaving the shady producer up shits creek. After that he fell out a window and found God. Then he ended up on broadway in The Ritz. Next thing I knew he was in prison. What a life.

Marc Donais. 55 yo con. Faked every gay fuck scene he every did. Sucked dick on camera exactly once. Robbed a children's charity. Tried to kill his girlfriend by bashing her over the head with a toilet tank.

His drama on "Making Porn" and fighting with the playwright even made the mainstream press. As did him jumping out of a window. He has a lot of issues.

Unfortunately, he was quickly losing his looks, so he won't be able to make a big comeback to porn after his release.

he lived in NH??

I think a ruined life is always regrettable, no matter now much the person has brought it on themselves. It sounds like he was drinking his own kool-aid, long after the sugar ran out.

I saw him in person once, at an Austin Gay Pride event at a park... I guess "Making Porn" was playing in Austin at the time? It was early 2000s, and I thought he still had is looks then. I stood about 6-8 feet away from him while he was sitting in a tent in the park talking to someone else. I thought he looked hot, and he didn't sound or act deranged in that few minutes.

I didn't actually speak to him or anything.

When his cock wasn't stiff, his acting would be.

He presented dong on stage in the play A Scent of Rain (1999). I will delete this from my Drive in a few days, so grab it while you can if you want it.

Never found him remotely attractive even in his "prime". I guess his mediocre face & dick were turn offs.

R12 His acting wasn't half bad in that.

[quote] I stood about 6-8 feet away from him

R11 was an early advocate of social distancing.

This should be a lesson to Jarec Wentworth.

[quote]Faked every gay fuck scene he every did.

Ahhh yeah well that ain't true. As soon as I read that, I googled him and in "Idol Country" there were two scenes I watched where he was clearly fucking the guy. Once with a condom, another without. In the second scene he not only was fucking him but jerking the guy to finish, rubbed the cum on his own chest and then he kissed him. No camera tricks, It was shot on video and clear as day with face include.

Here he is as a somewhat goofy looking High School Senior. Who would've guess less than a decade later, he would be one of the biggest, if not the biggest gay porn stars of the 1990s.

Rumored to have been Tom Cruise's roommate when they were both starving actors. He does resemble Cruise in that photo.

Here's another from a few years earlier. I'm sure no one back then would've guessed how his life would end up.

What was the movie where he played a priest hearing confession and began to jerk off? It was a very hot scene even if solo IMO

He’s such an asshole. I’m sure he’s someone’s bitch in prison. Right where he belongs.

We went to see "The Ritz" on Broadway and he was in it. We ran into him on the street after. He pretty clearly hinted he wanted us to buy him dinner. We didn't.

R23 He was probably used to being indulged and catered to by those in the porn industry. He got a ton of money (for porn standards) for some of his movies and most would jump through hoops in attempts to keep him happy. And he took advantage of that.

If he didn't have such a big self-destructive streak, he could've been living very comfortably today.

He's from foster homes or something, IIRC. He came from a rough white-trash past in New England.

It's almost impossible to convey what a huge effect he had on the porn aesthetic in the late 1980s. There were bodybuilders before, but no one with a body or face quite like his--it wasn't the size of his muscles so much as that he was so beautifully proportioned for the time. He also had an amazing sculpted butt.

Part of what made him such a big deal was he made so few films, and when one of his was released it was a huge deal and usually had his last name in the title.

He was really confused by his sudden fame, and he was also a manipulative grifter. He knew he was a big deal and used it to manipulate people, but he identified as straight and it took him a while to realize he was going to have to peddle his ass to get good money from his fame. he had such a reputation as a diva most people didn't want to work with him. He decided he could get the most money without having sex by doing those horrible plays like "Making Porn" in gay ghettos and resorts, and that was a successful novelty for a while, but then that dried up when other handsome and well built porn stars came along who would do much more for money.

He just kept spiraling downward until he fell out (walked out?) the 3rd story window in NYC. After he got out of the hospital he had a lot of trouble finding good work--he said he didn't want to do porn anymore, but by then no one wanted to see his plays. He did that stint as the Crisco Patron for the revival of "The Ritz"--it was clear stunt casting--and then supposedly he got involved as the kept man of some politician down South before he tried to kill his girlfriend with the porcelain top of a toilet tank.

Ryan was my first porn crush when I was a young gayling. My first porn magazine I bought was because of Ryan Idol on the cover. He was a complete fantasy man. Not really my type now, but back the I thought he was the most beautiful man in the world

Remember him at Studio One in LA way back when. He was doing a "floor show" stripper (because he couldn't dance ) act .Dressed in a chain mail jock with matching chain mail veil. He tried to do a back flip and tumbled off the stage. A good time was had by all.

I don't care what anyone says, it might be a cheesy look, but he was sexy as hell just before he got into trouble and got locked up in prison.

^^^ Hemsworth does Idol..

I'm surprised his old, very basic website is still up after all these years. Even more surprised homestead.com is still in business.

Looks like it was made with that geocities webpage maker tool from back in the late 90s/early 00s.

When he gets out of jail, he'll have a terrible time. No one will want someone in his late 50s who's lost his looks.

The guy never had much of a chance. He grew up in a series of foster homes, never knew his father and had limited contact with his mother. Not a very good foundation for a decent future life. Then he went into a sleazy business, stripping in adult clubs, which no doubt didn't give him much access to anyone with any ethics to help him along. Then the drugs drove him nuts and he gets convicted of attempted murder and is sentenced to 12 years in prison. He could have been out years ago but for his bad behavior in prison. They've got him locked up in a medical prison where they send mentally ill convicts due to his crazy behavior in prison which also ruined his chances at getting early release. So now he has to serve his entire sentence. And no doubt once he's out he'll likely be worse off than he was when he went in. He's just a walking disaster.

Maybe he got a degree in the pen and will have a job waiting for him when he gets out.

My 1st true love also grew up in foster homes up in New Jersey and he rarely talked about it but when he did you could tell it was terrible . He ran away to Florida at age 15 and never went back . He was a very good man,but he had his issues . I dont think Ive ever met anyone from foster homes that had a good experience . Ryan doesnt look like he did 30 years ago , but Id still give him a tumble out of gratitude for all the wonderful orgasms he provided me . I was hot for him back when .

[quote]and then supposedly he got involved as the kept man of some politician down South

R34 unless you have a tight vagina, Ryan could care less about your gratitude, but he will accept your cash or cash app.

[quote] No one will want someone in his late 50s who's lost his looks.

No one will want someone in his late 50s.

Fixded!

"Ryan doesnt look like he did 30 years ago."

I didn't think he was all that, even in his prime. Something about that thong/man pantie tan line that was a real turn-off.

Didn't Brandon "I AM NOT A PROSTATUTE!" Cody also grow up in foster homes? It must be a profoundly hard experience.

Well the whole "If he wanted it" was sort of implied R43 , but dont let that stop you from being a cunt .

R36 Dammit ! Thats it,no more wine today !

Ryan Idol back in the day.

Another...….

Was he released? Nothing comes up for his name in the California inmate database.

Ahhh Honey, Ryan isn't the first "straight" porn star to beat his girlfriend or wife and go to jail. Something must be missing in their relationships and we can all guess what.

R44 Are you looking up Marc Anthony Donais and not Ryan Idol?

In the end he was reduced to letting fugly fans fist fuck him for bus fare.

No he hasn't been released. He's incarcerated at the California Inmate Medical Facility in Vacaville, California. He won't get out until his 12 years are up. That is if he doesn't do something so bad in prison between now and then that causes them to give him more time.

I bet the girlfriend forgave him, right?

She gives him money all the time, I bet.

[quote] Ryan isn't the first "straight" porn star to beat his girlfriend or wife

He ain't so straight, by a long shot. His girlfriend caught him having sex with their male landlord not long before he tried to brain her with the toilet bowl lid. He's just another self hating homo who will probably never come to terms with the fact that he prefers cock. Having some broad living with him and occasionally bedding her is more for his self confidence than anything else. It helps him to lie himself into believing he's better than some dirty faggot.

Pity they never did a scene together.

That would have been a 50K scene. In they heyday of gay porn "stars" those two pulled in the big $

You can tell this porn was edited together to resemble a performance. (last scene)

But hey, they covered all the bases. Cocksuckers fantasizing about sniffing the jock's feet and his jock cup.

r51 Since neither of them bottomed, it would've been pretty boring.

R47 oh be nice... Seth is an awesome guy

I count four chins on Ryan at r47.

p.s.--Hi, Seth Rudetsky (r55)! You sho is ugly.

[quote] That would have been a 50K scene. In they heyday of gay porn "stars" those two pulled in the big $

Can you imagine what that set would have been like? This would have been in the pre-Viagra days, and Ken was infamous for having wood problems around men. And neither of them ever bottomed.

They were both handsome men with great bodies who did not enjoy doing gay porn at all.

I first saw him in Playgirl, before he went gay porn.

Same with Ken Ryker, actually.

R57 I saw Ryker in a straight porn, pre Viagra days, and he was having problems staying hard there too. He had a death grip on his dick to penetrate the woman at one point. His hole looked well used too.

I love his thong tan line.

When he was young I never got into him. He was way too pretty. But when he got some age on him and some character lines in his face and some extra middle age weight he became sexy as hell.

Today couldn't get $2 bucks to see em feltch each other in Macy's window on Thanksgiving Day.

age

she's a CUNT!

Marc and Gary should do a remake.

Here's to hoping he really gets his life together post release.

Can I be his parole officer?

It's interesting that so few gay porn stars (and so few gay partiers) have tan lines at all anymore.

Tanner Reeves and Damien never had tan lines.

I'm afraid Ken Ryker is long past being porn camera ready. He's now a minister in Custer, SD.

He dyes his hair and beard.

What a queen.

[quote] Ryan doesnt look like he did 30 years ago.

Who the fuck does?

You could tell Ken wasn't going to age well. His type rarely does.

R68. OMG. OMG. OMG. When Ken was in his 20s, 30s, and early 40s, very few could compete with his beauty. I know I would never have even considered myself in his category.

Fast forward to today. I am Ken's age and look much younger. I run, lift weights and watch my diet. No botox or any other cosmetic procedures, but I look so much better than he does. If one didn't know he had a humongous cock below, he would be invisible to the gays.

Damn but Ken was a dreamboat in his day ! Id still do him because of that dick , but wow .

*winking at r72*

Hey you.

I went to high school with Marc Donais, we actually were in the same Sophomore English class, and I sat next to him, he was actually a nice guy in school, don't know how he ended up going this route it a long way from Keene, NH to being a gay porn star, but I remember him saying that his goal was to eventually pose for the centerfold of Playgirl Magazine. I laughed when he said this thinking at age 15 or 16 whose goal is that, it was his and he accomplished it.

He did indeed, he sure loved his thong bikini.

Ken Ryker/Gary Pokorney looks really unnaturally puffy in that photo. Could he be on medications?

[quote] I remember him saying that his goal was to eventually pose for the centerfold of Playgirl Magazine. I laughed when he said this thinking at age 15 or 16 whose goal is that, it was his and he accomplished it.

Yes, "accomplishment" is his middle name.

[quote] Ken Ryker/Gary Pokorney looks really unnaturally puffy in that photo. Could he be on medications?

Many years of alcoholism will do that to a person. I assume he's conquered his boozing but the damage was already done.

After looking at the photo at R68 I am playing an endless loop of MARY! in my head.

How did that happen?

MARY!

MARY!

MARY!

If you want to see Ken Ryker today, he’s in the new Netflix documentary Circus of Books about the famous gay porn store in California. It’s a great documentary, just dildos and no tigers!

I weep for what is lost

LOLOLOLOL

i wonder if ken ryker's "flock" knows about his other persona and past career?.....imagine the closeted member who realizes he hit he jackpot that his minister is THEE ken ryker and plots his seduction...

Don't know if Ken/Gary is still at that church, it seems to have changed names and does not list him as a minister.

An old news article about him is here

Plotting Ken Ryker's seduction would be a pretty hopeless task. That man cannot get it up if you attacked his dick with a syringe filled with a solution of Viagra.

Rev. Gary Pokorney meet Rev. Josh Broome

Pokorney has a passle of kids, I know that much. I had a picture of him and his family but I can't find it anywhere. At least 5 I think. All tiny. And if I remember correctly the wife may have been pregnant again in the photo. So, he's gettin' it up for somebody, that's for sure.

The thing about Gary/Ken that ruins his looks the most is the loss of hair. He's developing one of those sad bald batches that starts from the forehead and goes backward. Impossible to hide. He really would look better if he just buzzed his hair way down. But hey, if he's a happy man now what business is it of mine what he looks like.

When he left porn he moved to Atlanta. Someone said he had a relative in the city. His Facebook profile back then went by the name "Gary James". James is his middle name. That profile seems to still be on FB, but pretty much dead.

Praise Jebus and pass the lube.

Pastor Porny another middle age overcompensating alcoholic who found the Lord. Of course he's a Trumptard with anger management issue. Does he have access to toilet tank lids?

The Senior photo was probably the summer of 1983, in Keene NH, he was actually a very good looking young man, and could actually fill out a pair of levi's well, I know I looked LOL

Rev. Porkorny takes communion.

He's a minister in the same town he was arrested multiple times for DUI (and sentenced to jail at one point) so one has to assume most people in that tiny town of 2000 knows about some of his past demons. But then you know how some Christian sects are. They love a failed man who finds the Lord.

That article can’t be about Ken Ryker - it says “Rev. Pokorney served as a chaplain in Korea during the Vietnam War era.”

More likely, it’s about Ken’s dad (who was a minister).

The gay porn manager David Forest pretty much created his stardom by demanding big bucks for this gay4pay client (same with Ken Ryker, Billy Brandt, and Zeb Atlas) to tease and pose.

R81, he's not in the documentary per se. There's a photo of him posing with the staff outside the store and it's from his glory days, so it's an old picture. He towers over everyone in the picture.

It seems so many times preacher's kids grow up to be wild.

In the early 90s, at the Knob Hill Cinema in San Francisco, I saw Ryan Idol dancing naked. Not just on stage, but all over the auditorium.

I slipped $5 into his crew sock and he rubbed his cock and balls in my face. That was money well spent.

[quote] The Senior photo was probably the summer of 1983, in Keene NH, he was actually a very good looking young man, and could actually fill out a pair of levi's well, I know I looked LOL

Perhaps you should’ve paid more attention in English class instead of ogling this poor boy.

Perhaps you could stop being such a fucking pedantic cunt, R99.

Oh, stop, r100, it’s all in good fun. Calm down. I had a huge smile on my face when I wrote that.

That’s the problem with plain text, no inflection.

I tried to make it more obvious by calling him that “poor boy,” but I guess it didn’t work.

-R99 no offense taken, you caught me "red" handed I thought he was hot in high school and when in February of 1989 he posed for playgirl it was all good, I could not believe he did what he said he was going to do!

r91's story of being in class with Ryan Idol reminds me of J. Geils Band's Centerfold ("the years go by I'm looking through a dirty magazine, and there's my homeroom angel on the pages in between"). Sadly, none of the boys in my graduating class ended up on the pages of Playgirl.

R94 you are correct.

I was riffing off of the post at R68 thinking Ken was the minister

[R87]: Who else is in the pic with Ken Ryker??

Ken Ryker's real name made me think of Kimmy Schmidt's bunker buddy, Cindy Pokorney, the one with braces! HA!

R105, the photo is in the preview clip at 2:00.

picture of Ryker must be 20 years old or more

According to the internet, Ken Ryker is now 47 years old, has left the porn business and has had a variety of jobs including real estate. It doesn't mention anything about him being a minister.

Ken Ryker was born in South Korea of all place and apparently is openly bisexual.

Ken goes by Jim Pokorney on FB. I think Rev. Gary is his father.

Ken Ryker's real name, according to imdb, is Gary James Pokorney.

As of summer 2019, at least, he had moved to Custer, South Dakota.

On his FB page he does go by Jim. He identiifies as "Christian, Husband, Father, Patriot" and has a citation from 1 Corinthians on his cover photo. He has a the famous Colt photo at r110 (tastefully cropped) as one of his FB photos, so he's not trying to hide who he is.

Ryker did plow the hell out of Christian Fox in at least two pornos - guess he likes Christians.

He's been living in South Dakota for many years. He got all the DUIs in Custer and that was long ago.

R114 Love it!

Yes, Mr. Ryker literally stripped poor young lad Christian Fox's anal threads with his behemoth member.

Porky or not. I’d still tap Ryker.

Hey! This is my thread, Ryker!

You're locked up. Big Ken is free as a bird. So shut it Ryan before we have a guard come in a pop you with a taser.

Idol and Jeff Stryker had a feud going on for a while back in the 90s. It started when Idol basically called Stryker a has-been and criticized him for doing straight porn, saying it cost him a lot of his fanbase (although Idol did do one straight scene himself). Stryker once shot back when asked about Idol being a strong competitor of his with "I've never felt like I had any competition. It's pretty tough to compare a hamburger to a steak." Ouch.

I'd say Stryker came out as the winner since he's not incarcerated, seems mostly content with his life and is still making money off being Jeff Stryker.

He grew up in Santa Clarita Ca. Just outside the porn capital of San Fernando Valley.

Who? Ryan Idol, Ken Ryker, or Jeff Stryker. I don't think any of those guys grew up anywhere near California.

Stryker came from Southern Illinois

Southern Illinois is one very tiny step above backwoods Kentucky or West Virginia.

Southern Illinois is indeed dismal. Lucky Jeff had the tool to get himself out of there and on the superstardom.

Southern Illinois is indeed dismal. Lucky Jeff had the tool to get himself out of there and on the superstardom.

Springfield is not southern Illinois. It's central Ill. It's only 180 miles from Chicago.

Stryker was born in Carmi, Illinois - that's southern Illinois.

But he grew up in Springfield.

The political mess mentioned upthread was all over the news in Birmingham a decade ago.

John Katopodis, a onetime Birmingham city councilman and county commissioner, co-founded (with fellow sleazes Mayor Larry Langford and Richard Scrushy, the disgraced HealthSouth CEO) a charity that was supposed to provide laptops to disadvantaged kids. Katopodis treated it like his personal piggy bank, and among the fraudulent expenses that were uncovered was a $5,000 payment to (quoting [italic]The Birmingham News[/italic]) "Marc Anthony Donais, a former porn star known as Ryan Idol."

Katopodis claims on his personal blog that Ryan/Anthony is his godson and that he tried to help him get his life on track after the falling-out-of-the-window thing by giving him a job repairing computers. Apparently Ryan's girlfriend at the time knew Katopodis somehow—not sure what the connection was—and appealed to him for help, which is how he ended up in Birmingham. As you can imagine, the local gay social set were all agog.

And when/where, exactly, did Ryan Idol learn how to repair computers?

[quote]And when/where, exactly, did Ryan Idol learn how to repair computers?

Who said he did?

R133, you just bash them over the head with the lid to a toilet tank. All fixded!

Someone claimed on that other thread that Katopodis was a leather queen.

This thing is a leather queen?

He was attractive when he was young.

Uh, I'm sorry, but in my world that is not attractive. That's uber geek.

Boy, that Birmingham group was a cabal of crooks. This Katapodis scumbag, sentenced to prison. Birmingham Mayer Larry Langford, sentenced to prison on an unrelated case, Health Sough CEO Richard Scrushy, sentenced to prison for his big healthcare fraud. Not an honest bone in a one of them.

Health South, that is

And I thought all porn stars were nice boys who were misunderstood,like Tim Barnett, Tim Lowe and Harlow Cuadro.

R68, Ken Ryker is 47 and looks like THIS??? Jaysus that’s a very hard looking 47. Meth abuse maybe?

^ Nope, heavy-duty alcoholism.

Ken Ryker in an interview for one of those gay porn mags from way back mentioned having a great sexual connection with performer Jake Andrews (and supposedly none of the other men that he topped were particularly noteworthy). Whether or not these were actually his words - who knows.

Ryker went to high school in Santa Clarita.

No wonder Ryker is a drunk. I'd have to be three sheets to the wind to put my dick in that fat fug he calls a wife.

[quote] Ken Ryker in an interview for one of those gay porn mags from way back mentioned having a great sexual connection with performer Jake Andrews

Several years back in the comments section of some website one person mentioned having sat at a table next to Jake Andrews and his then porny boyfriend Trent Reed in a restaurant somewhere around L.A.. He could overhear everything they said and he said it was more than obvious that they might be able to come up with a combined IQ of 100, if they strained really hard.

^^^ No one would pay a dime to see me fuck

Ken Ryker.

[quote]Ken Ryker in an interview for one of those gay porn mags from way back mentioned having a great sexual connection with performer Jake Andrews (and supposedly none of the other men that he topped were particularly noteworthy). Whether or not these were actually his words - who knows.

Probably canned PR bullshit (think [italic]Tiger Beat[/italic]).

Ken is wearing a bandana in R149. In this way, he prophesied the coming of Covid-19. The Lord speaks through him!

Get down on your knees, ye faithful of Data Lounge and worship this man for he is an emissary from God.

He was born and spent a few years of his life in Korea. When he was in porn in LA, I know Ryker was dating a really beautiful Asian lady, I think she was Japanese. I figured he would get married to her in LA and leave the scene. That he ended up in the midwest with a ton of kids and a not very attractive wife is not that surprising. The few times I met him, he seemed totally unsuited towards porn. Very shy and seemed almost scared.

I met Ken/Gary at a PR event staged by his pimp David Forest. He answered a few questions from his "fans/johns". Very nice and personable.He was a really big hunk of beef. After the Q & A. My friend chated up David. The asking rate for a up close and personal with Mr Pokorny was 5K. 10K for the nite. This was in what 95 dollars. By this time Gary had retreated to a dark corner of the bar sitting alone and staring into space.Being a bit tipsy I sauntered over to his corner. I introduced myself and offered to buy him a beer. " Don't drink. thanks" He seemed a bit .. well not scared but just wishing he was someplace else. Seeing he was not a conversationalist I put my hand on his bare shoulder ( he was wearing a black leather vest.) and told him "You're a God.!" He chuckled and said said "Thanks". I remember when I patted his bare shoulder the stubble of his back hair felt like wire.

Anyone ever write to ole Bitch Tits while he's still in lockdown?

r145 Is that his yearbook picture?

R145 Yes that is Marc Donais Senior year book picture

[quote]The few times I met him, he seemed totally unsuited towards porn. Very shy and seemed almost scared.

He was gorgeous in his prime but a terrible performer. I could never figure out whether he hated having sex with men or he liked it and felt guilty about it.

Oh I'm betting he liked it and was guilty about it.

I think that "Ken" just hated having sex on film in general (despite his obvious beauty at the time). I can't say that I blame him - it must take a special personality. I really do think that the greats have talent - you would have to be a born performer to overcome that stress.

Well, many performers have said that having sex for the porn camera is more work than enjoyment. How hot can you get when some mook is constantly saying "CUT" right when you're getting heated up, when the camera angles aren't right or some other technical problem comes up

In the few bisexual films he did, he didn't seem to enjoy having sex with anyone, male or female. He was in this weird world that he wasn't cut out for. The guilt his religious upbringing caused was definitely part of it, but he always read gay for pay, to me anyways. There was a picture book done of him and his face and reactions in it are almost sad.

Ken: pants down for the photo.

There are some porn viewers who apparently love it when the performers act so straight and detached from the whole gay sex experience in front of the camera. Otherwise, I couldn't explain the success of gay4pay porn stars and websites from the past like Straight College Men.

i'm amazed that porn stars like zeb atlas could get it up and keep it up especially when they are paired like zeb always was with twinks, twinks who were NOT attractive in face, bordering on plain actually, and of course no body whatsoever to speak of, bordering on scrawny..

never mind,the the pleasure zeb of course feels when ANYONE is blowing him and feasting on his musclebound body, i'm just saying i wonder if a) he had to take viagra to get hard and stay hard for his co-stars? b) if perhaps he WAS INTO and ATTRACTED to boyish/girlish twinks in a perfect example of opposites attract and was actually turned on by his twink plain face, scrawny bodies co-stars?

Well, Zeb Atlas came along after Viagra, so he had that to help him in need be. Most "stars" can't get to pick and choose who they work with, unless their product sells really well. If you're seen as being too difficult, and refuse to perform with someone you're not attracted to or dislike for whatever reason, you'll find yourself without much work at all.

Of course, since most porn stars also escort, they're used to being paired up with people who aren't that attractive, or even downright ugly.

These guys were stars before the internet was accessible to the mainstream. They could demand a huge salary just to show up and have lackluster sex and be on the cover of the VHS tape's box sleeve. Their porn releases sold like hot cakes.

Zeb Atlas came later and was apparently the last big one who could demand a big, fat check for letting Jake Cruise touch him.

Yes, Stryker, Idol and Chandler tapes sold like crazy, so they wanted to keep them happy by paying them very well, usually let them picking who they want to work with, what they wanted to do/didn't want to do and such. Even that wasn't enough for Idol though. I think sometimes he was just difficult because he could be.

Ryan Idol was difficult because of a combination of issues. Very low level of maturity, egomania, and arrogance. I'm sure he was told by lots of people in the business that he was the best thing since sliced bread and he was stupid enough to believe it, never thinking of just how short most gay porn stars careers are.

The hottest thing Idol ever did was that commercial with Max Grand and Hank Hightower where they are on their knees and he is behind them sticking dildoes up their asses.

i wonder how much power zeb had in his scenes? could he tell the director i'm not kissing that guy or i'm not blowing that guy or whatever? because i find if interesting that in all of his pairings with his plain looking half his size twinks, in some scenes he makes out with them and in other scenes he doesn't, some scenes he blows his twink co-star and some scenes he doesn't?..

just wondering why such acts occur with one co-star and not with another? is it simply the director directing him to do so or also forgetting to tell him to do so? is it up to zeb and his co-star if they want to do what with each other and zeb being a star has some imput?

can zeb have said " i'm not making out with that guy or blowing him because i don't find him attractive in anyway" who knows as i stated before maybe zeb WAS into twinks?....

i'm guess contracts are signed and with provisions in what a performer will or won't do and with zeb is seems no bottoming, no rimming (him doing it) and other acts were agreed to ahead of time before he appears in any scene with anyone..

The intricacies of codicils in porn contracts would blow your mind. Some of these whores be smart.

Zeb also did tranny porn, so even Jake Cruise must have been a walk in the park.

Is Zeb Atlas the one who supposedly gave the guy who looked like Baby Huey chlamydia or some sort of VD, or so he claimed in a crybaby video posted long ago?

For a brief moment, Ryan Idol was impossibly pretty. But I never found him hot.

Paul Carrigan was hot. Smoking hot. And far more than pretty enough.

And the difference in those two is millions of miles apart. Idol turned out to be a violent mental case with no discernible work skills. Carrigan turned out to be an accomplished major motion picture technician with a fine reputation for excellent work on movie sets.

R174 Matthew Rush (Baby Huey) said Zeb gave him giardia in that tearful video, after he ate Zeb's dirty hole in a scene they did together.

Zeb does have one of strangest looking holes ever. Like there is something seriously wrong with it.

One of the most unintentionally funny things I ever saw was Ryan Idol in some ad for a 1-800 chat line which aired before one of his porn videos. The dialogue went something like "I'm Ryan Idol! Call me! NOW! I can be your top... or I can be your bottom. We can talk about *anything*. But call me. NOW!" I can imagine someone calling the number, contacting Ryan and saying "Talk about anything, you say? What are your thoughts on Keynesian economics".

Roids and HGH are expensive.In the end even Andy Dick would suck ANY dick for $.

[quote]Yes, Stryker, Idol and Chandler tapes sold like crazy

Stryker also had a dildo molded from his cock and was very pissed when the dildo company made it bigger than it really was. You would think a guy let alone a sex performer would be happy but he was not, he might have even sued.

He did sue. Those dildos sold like crazy.

He must have been brain dead at the time. ALL pornstar dildos are bigger than the real thing.

R179 Andy Dick sucks dick for free.

R180 I had one of those. It was not a starter dildo, more suitable for a hole like the Holland Tunnel.

Stryker had to sue to get the company that made the dildo to pay him the residuals that was a part of the agreement.

He also got residuals for some of the videos he did before he started his own company. He might have looked dumb, but he was far from it. He really knew how to market himself.

[quote] I had one of those. It was not a starter dildo, more suitable for a hole like the Holland Tunnel.

So what you’re saying is sleeping with you is like sticking a pen in a turtleneck?

R186 Hot dog down a hallway? No, that thing was way too giant for me. Even in my advanced years.

Luv ya, r187.