The Breakfast Club (1985) - Did you like it?

I didn't like it

It sucks, best thing is the stupid song.

Critics like it because it's more serious than the other John Hughes teen movies but it's my least favorite. Give me Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Some Kind of Wonder or Sixteen Candles over this.

I love all three you named but I love this one also.

Sixteen Candles is my favorite though cause of Jake Ryan.

You’re poor if you don’t have a BMW - thanks. Back to the 70s

This is the only movie where Judd "Nostrils" Nelson was ever appealing.

Yes i love it too

I loved it.

Still do.

Does Barry Manilow know that you raid his wardrobe?

I absolutely loved it as a kid.

I loved this scene when Bender is hiding under the table and puts his head between Clares VERY SPREAD legs lol

Can you describe the ruckus sir?

Judd Nelson and Emilio Estevez were indeed attractive, but neither could hold a candle to Jake Ryan.

R10 SJWs have "cancelled" this movie bc of that scene.

r13 read some of the comments in the video. Most are having fun and LOLing but you have some SJWs losing it cause he did that, claiming sexual assault and how she should have beat his ass.

It was decent, but quite predictable. I preferred Sixteen Candles, and not only because of Jake Ryan, but because of the supporting cast.

Loved it. Watched it with a bunch of early teens (my kids and their friends) and it moved them. It was on, and one by one, they settled down to watch it. It holds up, I think. The boy in the group pretended he didn’t care about it, but he mentioned it recently.

Haven't SJWs canceled Sixteen Candles also because of

1- Sams best friends reaction to her thinking Sam wanted a black boyfriend

2- The stereotype that is the Asian character

3- Jake Ryan saying he could do whatever he wanted to his drunk passed out girlfriend

4- Jake Ryan sending Anthony Michael Hall with his drunk girlfriend to "date rape" her

?

This scene does not go over well with the SJWs from Sixteen Candles

Sorry, but they will never be able to cancel Jake's hotness

I preferred Sixteen Candles.

r19 the majority of humanity with eyes that work and a brain that works love Jake. Hes walking beauty.

But SJWs are blind and dumb.

Both Breakfast Club and Sixteen Candles are fun movies if you watched them for the first time at a certain stage in your life. Afterwards, that residual emotional connection often remains and connects you to that time in your own life.

This movie was made for people born in 1970-1975...if that's not you, fuck off with your negative opinions

I loved it, and Judd Nelson.

r23 I was born in 1991 and love it lol

[quote]This movie was made for people born in 1970-1975...if that's not you, fuck off with your negative opinions

It was made for ten year olds???

Judd Nelson....omg....yum....

The movie was made for teens and young adults... kids could watch but I dont think they were the target audience.

I was born in 1964 I loved it in 1985 and I love it still.

I liked Alison the best... the popcorn sandwich, tossing the bologna over her head and it sticking to the statue and her scratching her head so the dandruff looked like snow falling on her drawing of a covered bridge cracked me up. Kinda loved her. Especially her speech to Claire (Molly Ringworm) about the double-edged sword of being a whore or a tease.

Never could figure out Emilio Estevez's whole speech about his "old man" and how it was somehow related to taping that guy with the hairy ass butt cheeks together.

I was a kid in the 90s when I saw this and tried the popcorn and pixie stick sandwich, and it was disgusting. Lol.

It’s a shame Judd Nelson lost out on the part of Tony Stark to that other guy.

Wasn’t Tony Stark supposed to be Tom Cruise? They wanted him.

I was the same age as the characters in Breakfast Club when it came out. At the time, I didn't really care about the movie one way or the other.

But, when I see it now, I find it very moving. The letter at the end kills me. KILLS me. And the song is just so ingrained in the fabric of my life now.

Breakfast Club is a fine piece of work. Painfully nostalgic to watch now.

Michael Schoeffling should have been cast as the Jock over Emilio Estevez

I was shocked when Criterion released this on Blu-ray.

I liked Alison, too. "I lied..." The film, though it has some flaws, managed to capture the insulated, striated lives of high schoolers in that era. It's amazing how post-H.S., whether you go to college or work, that whole school society that defines our worldview just vanishes.

It was before my time, but I enjoyed it as a glimpse into a time I just barely missed out on. I preferred the timeless Karate Kid though.

Yeah, it was nice to see what high school was like for eldergays. I love slice of life films that transport you to another time you didn’t know existed.

R40 of all the films that portrayed what would turn out to be Generation X's high school or college years, Breakfast Club comes closest to showing how it actually was. You very much get the flavor of being a teenager in the '80s.

HEY HEY HEY OOOOOH OOOHHH WOAH

The song is fantastic

I was in high school when it came out and even though I thought it was unrealistic I liked it.

I remember coming home from the movies and my parents were having a party or get-together with their friends. In front of everyone, my mother asked what movie we saw, and I said The Breakfast Club. "The Breakfast Club? Isn't that rated 'R'?" my mother responded. Exasperated, I said "Mom, I'm SEVENTEEN." I had turned seventeen a month after the movie came out - in fact, a couple of friends I was with were still under 17 - but looking back I felt bad that I made it such a dramatic moment in front of their friends. At the time, I remember thinking "boy, I showed her", but now I realize once I huffed off, the adults were probably saying "what an obnoxious little prick".

Anyway, I loved the movie at the time, but I did hate the little come-to-Jesus confessional scene 2/3rds the way through where all the little whiny kids talk about how tough life is. So for that reason I always preferred the straightforward comedy of Sixteen Candles and Ferris Bueller. (Although Ferris had a touch of the downer scene with Cameron, too.)

“Vodka!”

Mannered performances. No one is 'real'.

It's funny seeing their reactions to Molly/Claire having sushi for lunch. I guess it wasn't as common back then.

Loved it

But I was sixteen

R30 & R31 Not to be a stickler, but the sandwich was made of Capn Crunch and a pixie stick, not popcorn.

R30, did you even watch the full movie? That was not popcorn in allisons sandwich, it was Cap'n Crunch.

Also the reason he taped the kids ass cheeks together is because he was looking for validation from his father who hated weakness or perceived weakness.

My favorite line in the movie:

Claire: why do you have a fake ID?

Nerd: so I can vote.

Why is it in movies teens always feel comfortable to make out in front of their parents? I never did.

I loved the movie, but the dance scene is really awful - most especially the scene where Emilio Estevez jumps hurdles, flexes his muscles and breaks the glass door.

I also thought Ally Sheedy looked better before Molly Ringwald made her over.

R48 Yes, sushi was exotic back then...not as mainstream as it is today.

R54 agree with both.

Sushi was not mainstream back then. It was something only specific types ate and seen as exotic and ethnic.

Italian food was considered ethnic then also, still is in parts of the Country.

"Vodka" was the best line. The whole thing was tedious.

R12 He was so much hotter in Mermaids. Like a man who knew what he was doing.

R59 well he was older. He was 24 when he filmed Sixteen Candles and 30 for Mermaids.

80s metalhead here. All my friends were Bender.

I've always loved the theme song, Don't You Forget About Me, written and produced flawlessly by Keith Forsey. Keith is primarily known for that song and discovering and producing Billy Idol. Keith started out as the drummer on Donna Summer's classic 70s albums.

I also prefer Sixteen Candles. I feel Breakfast Club tries too hard and I had trouble connecting to the characters.

I also hate the Ally Sheedy makeover scene. it's cringeworthy.

For all its politically incorrect scenes, I think Sixteen Candles was actually more realistic in how teens acted. They would say "fag" and boys were horny. We may not like that now but it's how it was.

I do like this movie, but even as a 18 year old wathcing this stoned to the gills, Ally Sheedy was just hamming it up. Her character and acting did not age well. I found Judd Nelson's nostrils very distracting and Emilio's bulge too.

I think pretty much all the John Hughes movies have been #cancelled by the Twitter idiots these days and, if they haven't, they will. I'm sure there will be an article about how the lead in Some Kind of Wonderful should have been played by a disabled trans woman of color and, because she's not, the movie is ableist, racist, and transphobic.

I still enjoy the films while recognizing that some scenes play differently to modern viewers. Hell, I saw a movie from the 90's recently and couldn't believe some of those scenes and lines were in such a fairly modern film. Change really does sneak up on you.

Emilio’s bulge and muscles were the best part.

Did John Hughes ever cast a minority?

R59 I love that movie. Who could blame Winona for having all of those [italic]sinful thoughts[/italic] about him.

R68 same girl same. Sjws have cancelled mermaids though because Joe was 26 and Charlotte just 15 when they had sex lol

Christ, every movie is going to be cancelled.

Working Girl will probably be cancelled because Sigourney Weaver was called "boney ass".

Chicks cannot hold their smoke

Wasn't my favorite. Alot of those 80s movies have just not held up. Acting was so bad.

I didn't really like Breakfast Club...a little tedious. A great 80s movie that I watched recently was "About Last Night" with Rob Lowe and Demi Moore. Really funny.

R73 you can’t compare that to this.

i don't remember

R69 lol of course they did. I still don't care. He could get it.

R73 About Last Night was good. I still need to check out the reboot.

I love About Last Night but you can’t compare that to a John Hughes movie

There was a reboot?

R78 yes

I know someone who purchased Ally Sheedy's sneakers from this movie at a studio auction. He pulled them out to show them to me and they smelled awful.

R80 I’m sure. I’m sure.

[quote] I know someone who purchased Ally Sheedy's sneakers from this movie at a studio auction. He pulled them out to show them to me and they smelled awful.

You took the time to smell them?

R82 stop chatting up trolls.

I loved it or more the experience of it. It was the first movie I went to see without an adult family member. Instead I went with my volleyball club and I was 12 and the club had teams ranging from elementary school age to high school. So seeing it with and hanging out with the cool HS club members really made me feel all grown up.

Sometime in the late 90's it was on TV and I was pretty meh about the movie.

Liked this movie, but loved "Sixteen Candles." i'm surprised that no one has mentioned "St. Elmo's Fire." Now, there's a pretentious, bad movie. But still laugh at this scene:

I love the seen with Jules having a nervous breakdown with the billowing curtains and the Billy Idol neon portrait. My sides!!

^^^ This comes right after the billowing curtains and is my favorite part of the movie, especially the line “I never thought I would be so tired at 22.” We used that for over a decade. I also liked the fact that in real life Ally was the coked out mess like Jules and Demi was much more the straight shooter.

THE lamest suicide "attempt" ever in cinematic history. She should have just jumped in front of a train.

R87 Demi was a coked out mess as well. Joel Schumacher threatened to fire her from St Elmo’s Fire if she didn’t go to rehab

Trust me, Demi knew her way around a mountain of coke.

So what it was the 80's. I believe Demi was playing Jules method and coked to the gills.

Demi looks awful with that hair

Demi sounded awful with that voice.

I like all of John Hughes' movies. I still do.. I'm an old fart, born in 1954, and loved this movie when it came out. I had a crush on Judd. I even have the DVDs of Hughes' movies.

[Quote] Yes, sushi was exotic back then...not as mainstream as it is today.

[Quote] Sushi was not mainstream back then. It was something only specific types ate and seen as exotic and ethnic.

I figured as much.

I never considered Demi to be one of the official brat pack. She seemed to have wormed her way in with St Elmo's Fire.

She came in later. She joined when shit wasn’t as good.

We hated it

That still of Judd Nelson at the OP is remarkable. He was so handsome back then. If only he could act (especially without flaring his nostrils), he would have had a remarkable career.

I didn't particularly care for the movie, but Judd Nelson was dreamy.

r96, the Brat Pack was defined by a 1985 article for NEW YORK Magazine that first used the term to describe them. Here's the wikipedia entry on what it was and who was in it (basically the casts of "the Breakfast Club" and "St. Elmo's Fire"):

[quote]The Brat Pack is a nickname given to a group of young actors who frequently appeared together in teen-oriented coming-of-age films in the 1980s. First mentioned in a 1985 New York magazine article, it is now usually defined as the cast members of two specific films released in 1985—The Breakfast Club and St. Elmo's Fire—although other actors are sometimes included. [bold]The "core" members are considered to be Emilio Estevez, Anthony Michael Hall, Rob Lowe, Andrew McCarthy, Demi Moore, Judd Nelson, Molly Ringwald, and Ally Sheedy. [/bold]

If you can ever find the original article, you should read it. They mostly come across as juvenile idiots, especially Demi Moore (who goes on about how she's so into the feel of Q-Tips!). The exception is Ally Sheedy, who works hard but is obsessed with comparing herself to her idol, Katharine Hepburn.

For some reason they left Mare Winningham out of the article, and though she was in "St. Elmo's Fire," she's usually been pretty much exempted from being considered in the membership in the Brat Pack--I think because even back then she was recognized as a serious character actress although she was pretty young then.

R101 I think to be a part of The Brat Pack they had to do more than one movie for Hughes.

Michael Schoeffling was in Sixteen Candles but never cast in another role for Hughes so he will never be linked to that

Anonymous at r102, I'm afraid I'm going to take wikipedia's and the original New York magazine article's opinions as to who constituted the membership of the Brat Pack over yours.

Sorry.

Did they say he was a part of it? I’ve never seen him associated with the pack

R101 the NY Magazine article is the first link under "References" on the wiki page, and I'm reading it now. Fascinating!

I was born in 1964, and I loathed it, and 'Sixteen Candles' also.

Love both. But Sixteen Candles is better.

Say what you want about Ringwald, but she was right that Claire should have ended up dating Brian not Bender. For his talents writing wangst & introspection Hughes never could manage romance subplots or arcs properly.

R108 but he gave her Jake Ryan, which she seems to hate also lol.

Another overated 80’s film. Sorry you grew up on it but it has not aged well.

Who’s Brian? Emilio Estevez?

R111 the dorky one

Brian is Anthony Michael Hall

[quote]For all its politically incorrect scenes, I think Sixteen Candles was actually more realistic in how teens acted. They would say "fag" and boys were horny. We may not like that now but it's how it was.

Teen boys are still like that. We're just not allowed to depict real life anymore, just an idealized version.

[quote]I still enjoy the films while recognizing that some scenes play differently to modern viewers. Hell, I saw a movie from the 90's recently and couldn't believe some of those scenes and lines were in such a fairly modern film. Change really does sneak up on you.

What movie?

I would have done the janitor

Just One of the Guys is my favourite 1985 teen movie.

[quote] Say what you want about Ringwald, but she was right that Claire should have ended up dating Brian not Bender.

I disagree. It is almost unthinkable someone so shallow and obsessed with popularity at her age would ever date a nerd. She would get coolness points from her friends, though, for dating a hot stoner bad-boy (though probably just for a week).

I always found it odd how they just make out in front of their parents at the end, while saying goodbye. Like, really sucking face@

R118 why would the jock date the future cat lady though?

Yes r116, Carl the janitor was hot. Intelligent, masculine, and a little scruffy.

The janitor had a big ass

God, I just wish I could get it back!

John hughes movies suck and have not aged well at all.

That’s why he’s going to remake all of them.

Most John Hughes movies are still more compelling, entertaining, and fun than 99% of what’s coming out today....

R126 from the grave?

I think the janitor is the same guy who played the "oily bo-hunk" in 16 candles....right?

Nope. I dislike the movie and especially Molly whom I find very unattractive.

I appreciate the guns on Emilio Estevez.

Molly looked very pretty in this one.

R129 lol yes. It's the same actor.

R121 He was also in Weird Science and Sixteen Candles

And Ferris Bueller’s Day Off but his scene was cut. But he says it will be included in the upcoming but not announced yet Criterion blu-ray:

And yet, the actor with nearly 200 credits and a role in December’s Oscar contender “The Shape of Water” may still be seen by audiences as a part of “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.”

“I was contacted by the Criterion Collection” and they had the scene among footage supplied by Hughes’ family for bonus features for a 2018 DVD release, he said.

I still enjoy these movies despite their politically incorrect stuff. Apparently, we're not allowed to have characters do and say things that aren't on the moral up and up anymore. Everyone has to always have good intentions. I can't really understand this. If we were discussing a politician, sure, but fiction is another story to me. I'd rather have my characters do things that are problematic. It keeps things interesting.

Why is what they say not okay but Bradley “Paging Dr. Faggot” Bradley is beloved by everyone and even approved by the queer-inclusive Lady Gaga?

[quote]Apparently, we're not allowed to have characters do and say things that aren't on the moral up and up anymore.

Also, extremists on both sides think if a movie depicts something, then it is promoting it. For example, the far right believes that if a movie features a gay character, they're promoting the 'gay agenda,' and the far left believes that if a character lights up a cigarette, they're promoting smoking. It's insane! It's as if people lack critical thinking skills.

I mentioned in another thread that we're currently undergoing another Hays Code era. Filmmaking is very restricting these days, like the days of yore. And that's not a good thing, because it stifles creativity.

Ally Sheedy's character was my personal fave. She was like this Dark Angel who was sent to watch over them all and ended up with the greatest reward - the jock. She always managed to drop the best bombshells with impeccable timing. When she told the group that she wasn't even supposed to be there with them, I still laugh.

Love the entire gang. Judd Nelson at his most fuckable.

Anthony Michael Hall's character is the only who doesn't seem to last through changing times. His big confession scene- he was going to shoot himself over failing grades - doesn't ring sincere. Finding a gun in a student's locker does not lead to detention - it leads to suspension and its handed over to the police. And his desire to die because of personal failure is so "First-World" problem. It was always hard to sympathize with him, especially since I always detected it had more to do with the fact he was the little gay in the group (the neutered, sexless one who was ok with his brain while the others were paired off in heterosexual couplings) and that was why he wanted to commit suicide. The white-washed mainstream audiences of the 80s weren't ready for that.

R139 Dear Lord...

Judd recently caught a movie deal for “Nostrilla, Smeller of Danger.” Should be a smash..

I saw it a few months ago. Could not get through it. Seemed really dumb.

I've never really watched it. I've only been able to stomach seeing parts of it. It's just a very contrived John Hughes "teen" movie that really appealed to teenagers and adults with certain sensibilities.

Did Alison eat a "popcorn" sandwich? I seem to recall it was a Captain Crunch sandwich on white bread. Anyway, one of the worst things about the movie was Alison's transformation. The Princess Claire takes pity on the poor misfit girl and gives her a makeover. She gets her hair out of her eyes, applies softer makeup and voila! She's morphed into a homogenized, blandly pretty teenage girl. Even her personality has changed: "I don't want to be alone anymore." And the jock Andrew promptly falls in love with her: "you don't have to be." GAG. One critic said Alison was a lot more interesting when she was a basket case and that of course is true. But I guess John Hughes decided that a happy ending for Alison (the weirdo girl gets a BOYFRIEND!) would really strike a chord with the viewers of his film, especially the female ones.

I loved basket case Alison better than Remade Princess Alison.

The eyebags on Miss Molly were disgusting wasn’t she 16/17 filming this?

Claire was sad because she was at her "peak" in high school. After that, she'd slowly fade into the banality of life. Get married, get pregnant, gain weight, and dream of sweet, sweet death after realizing that she's just like everyone else.

But Claire was rich. I don't think that would've been her fate.

You're right, r147 - it would have been worse.

How interesting would it be to see them all reunited at a modern high school reunion. Claire would probably be totally miserable and married to some rich idiot.

[quote] One critic said Alison was a lot more interesting when she was a basket case and that of course is true.

I feel like that about Watts in Hughes’ SOME KIND OF WONDERFUL. She was clearly a softbutch punk who lusted Amanda and she could have easily been happy that way, but of course we couldn’t have something as controversial and interesting as that in 1988 so she was watered down written as a ‘tomboy’ (at 17🙄) in love with her childhood bestie the male mechanic.

I was their age when this came out, and I love it because it really reminds me of my high school and the kids will went with me. I had a guy in my homeroom who was a dead ringer for Bender, dressed the same way too.

Could have been an interesting thread, but the "waaah SJWs cancelled [insert thread topic here]" trolls take every conversation over nowadays.

Hughes' films were more about Boomers than GenXers. Everything that was meant to be meaningful was so exaggerated and fake, with the exact same sensibilities as teen movies of the 1970s, like AMERICAN GRAFFITI, ANIMAL HOUSE and OVER THE EDGE. Movies like HEATHERS and even FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH captured the spirit of the 1980s much better, probably because the exaggerated emotions were intentional and meant to convey the difficulty of navigating the world that the Reagan-era GOP was creating at that moment. The teens in BREAKFAST CLUB act like they're still trying to process the wacky Nixon years, they're so vanilla and out of date.

R153 in many parts of the country kids WERE vanilla and out of date.

I thought it was an entertaining teen movie then, and now. I identified more with the nerds in Lucas, however.

R155 Winonq is so much better than Molly it’s not even funny.

I’ve never seen it even though I graduated high school in 1986.

Good movie, and Judd was hot AF. A pretty spot on portrayal of HS that actually holds up today.

I wonder what the consensus is on Kicking & Screaming??

[quote]Could have been an interesting thread, but the "waaah SJWs cancelled [insert thread topic here]" trolls take every conversation over nowadays.

Well, SJWs (perennial victims) keep ruining everything for everyone because it hurts their 'widdle feewings. '

Heathers was always more my jam. Weirdly enough, that felt much more like a story of my middle school years than high school years. Middle school was awful, but high school was pretty tolerable. Not great, memorable, or fun, but at least it wasn't the horror of middle school.

To me it represents the beginnings of the seeing the world divided into haves and have-nots. The rich va the poors - as if they live totally different lives. The idealization of the rich kid wasn’t as omnipresent in movies before the 80s. All the teen movies after 1980 were all about wealth.

When I first saw this movie I felt I related most to Ally Sheedy's character. She was pretty much a female version of what I was like in high school.

The obligatory dance scene is awful.

Fun movie.

[quote]It's amazing how post-H.S., whether you go to college or work, that whole school society that defines our worldview just vanishes.

Very true, and it happens so fast. And you never see some of those kids again.

High school is a kind of non-reality. It's unreal. But at the time is seems so important. I heard a class mate say that high school was supposed to be "best years of my life", God help her.

Anyone who believes high school was the best time of their lives is a sad, psychopath. I wasn't bullied or unpopular (I was somewhere in the middle), but I found it all so tedious and boring and couldn't wait to get out. Amazing how little we use of the things we learned during that time, too.

I understand thinking college or maybe pre-school/elementary school was the best time of your life, but middle and high school both kinda sucked. I'd never want to go back.

I'd love to see a movie where the entire cast of this returns for their 40th high school reunion just to see how much they've changed. That'd be fascinating. Hollywood should get on that.

Some people peak in HS.

R154 Bingo! I went to high school in suburban Connecticut and was a Sophomore in 1985. Breakfast Club makes complete sense to me. It rings true.

Seeing Fast Times at Ridgemont High was like another planet for me. It took many years for that Fast Times sensibility to spread.

The weakest part of Fast Times is the Spicoli character. I never understood his appeal and it gets in the way of the more "realistic" portrayal of teendom. And Judge Reinhold looks about a decade older than the rest of the cast.

It didn’t appeal at all. Emilio peaked in it.

Wasn’t Emilio already like 30 in this?

he was 22.

WEHT to Judge Reinhold? He just disappeared.

Judd Nelson can put his flared nostrils between my legs anytime he wants. I loved his beautiful tweed coat at the end almost as much as I loved him.

Blu-ray interviews with Molly and Ally.

Blu-ray interviews with Molly and Ally.

[quote]I loved his beautiful tweed coat at the end almost as much as I loved him.

Why don’t guys wear cool coats anymore? I was a college freshman in 1985 and a good coat made any guy about 50 percent hotter to me.

You are so right R179. John Cusack wore a cool coat in Say Anything.

Oh my gosh that NY Magazine article was terrible!! The focus of Estevez was tiresome. God they were all boring!

I used to think Estevez was so hot.

Dumb movie with dumb characters that dumb audience members went to see.

The movie tried too hard to be cool........

It was cool

[quote]Judd Nelson can put his flared nostrils between my legs anytime he wants. I loved his beautiful tweed coat at the end almost as much as I loved him.

Well, here ya go!

R179 Columbine Trenchcoat Mafia?

"Boogadah, Boogadah, Boogadah, AH AH AH!" What the hell was up with THAT! Were they in some kind of club where that was their saying? Anyway, it was so fucking stupid.

I did not like it when it first came out, but I watched it again years later and parts of it grew on me.

Saw it again about a year ago. It has not aged well.

I liked it, personally.

I just can't get into it. I can't connect to any of the characters.

Heck, something like Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me, the teenagers were more realistic in that movie.

This is 35 years old now

I did not...but to be fair I hate all of John Hughes films.

R193 EVEN HOME ALONE?!

The casting was off - Emilio was hard to beleive when he is 5'2" tall. Hall always played the geek, the should have gotten someone else. Judd Nelson was good so was Ally Sheedy. Molly Ringwald as the super popular girl? Nope not even for a second- she and Sheedy should have switched roles.

No. Ringwald was great in this. And looked pretty for once.

R194 Yes. All of them.

r196 no ginger can be the pretty one - they lack a soul.

The teacher assigned detention duty.