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Entire cast of new MTV’s ‘Are you the One’ is Sexually Fluid

Are You the One? is about to make history when it returns to MTV.

The long-running dating program, which will premiere on June 26, is the first series in the United States to feature a sexually fluid cast. The show's signature format -- singles heading off to paradise in hopes of discovering their "perfect match" and splitting a $1 million prize if they find each other over the course of 10 weeks -- remains. But there's one difference from previous installments: All the participants this season identify as sexually fluid, meaning there are no gender limitations when it comes to their PM. Finding love is fair game -- so come one, come all.

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by Anonymousreply 529October 11, 2019 2:02 AM

Sexually fluid is nonsense millennial gibberish, they are bi-sexual.

by Anonymousreply 1May 31, 2019 5:10 PM

Why are the chicks so much hotter than the dudes, except the black bro?

by Anonymousreply 2May 31, 2019 5:12 PM

So all the guys are gay? No such thing as bi men.

by Anonymousreply 3May 31, 2019 5:13 PM

No top identifies as sexually fluid, so there's not going to be any man to man action.

by Anonymousreply 4May 31, 2019 5:15 PM

another stupid show

by Anonymousreply 5May 31, 2019 5:21 PM

The Bi-Life on E! did it first where everyone was simply bi-sexual apart from one girl who called herself pansexual and went on a date with a transwoman which is fair enough I suppose but there was no sexually fluid nonsense

Michael was new to dating, tried both, came out as gay. Ended up with Kyle

Matt had come out of a long-term relationship with a girl and fell for Ryan which didn't go anywhere

It was actually quite a cute programme. Normally I hate this sort of show

by Anonymousreply 6May 31, 2019 5:22 PM

It's all staged

by Anonymousreply 7May 31, 2019 5:33 PM

Who’s the black dude?

by Anonymousreply 8May 31, 2019 5:36 PM

R6 Matt was a flaming queen. No way he had been with a woman. Kyle was cute. I liked his Welsh accent.

by Anonymousreply 9May 31, 2019 5:38 PM

R8 Which one?..There's one dressed like a woman. With the blue bulge

by Anonymousreply 10May 31, 2019 5:38 PM

I still don’t know exactly what sexually fluid means

by Anonymousreply 11May 31, 2019 5:43 PM

yum-oooooooooo

by Anonymousreply 12May 31, 2019 5:45 PM

I mean the hot black dude, not the one you referenced

by Anonymousreply 13May 31, 2019 5:45 PM

The guys are so ugly. I really believe they are all "sexually fluid" but I'm not sure if the women are going to hook up with another women.

by Anonymousreply 14May 31, 2019 6:11 PM

The Maori FTM in the bottom right corner looks like Seahawks legend Russell Wilson

by Anonymousreply 15May 31, 2019 6:18 PM

"Sexually fluid" is millennial bullshit labeling. Wait until the guys find out the girls just say that so men find them more attractive.

by Anonymousreply 16May 31, 2019 6:34 PM

Will it be as explicit as when straight people make out?

by Anonymousreply 17May 31, 2019 6:44 PM

Why can't these fuckers just play music videos?

by Anonymousreply 18May 31, 2019 6:48 PM

The women in OP's pic are way more attractive than the guys. The only one who isn't totally gross is the black one on the far left. Funny how "sexually fluid men" = too repulsive to attract either gender, whereas "sexually fluid women" = hot enough to score with both teams.

by Anonymousreply 19May 31, 2019 6:48 PM

I don't think a lof of, what could be considered traditionally, hot guys auditioned for that show knowing in advance what it's about. Meaning that it's still a personal issue for some who don't want to be associated with in public. Like bisexuals being in the closet afraid to come out as bisexual instead of full on gay or straight.

by Anonymousreply 20May 31, 2019 6:54 PM

Everything old is new again.

They’re bi.

by Anonymousreply 21May 31, 2019 7:20 PM

Excited

by Anonymousreply 22May 31, 2019 7:33 PM

What the he'll is sexually fluid. I am really getting old since I don't know what that means. When I was a teen you are either straight or gay period.

by Anonymousreply 23May 31, 2019 8:19 PM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 24May 31, 2019 10:59 PM

R23, keep yo dude

by Anonymousreply 25June 1, 2019 9:50 AM

So the whole cast is gay? Wow.

by Anonymousreply 26June 1, 2019 10:44 AM

I’m Watching it now

by Anonymousreply 27July 4, 2019 10:32 PM

Max and Brandon are the hot masculine dudes. Justin could be attractive

by Anonymousreply 28July 4, 2019 10:38 PM

Remy is very cute.

by Anonymousreply 29July 4, 2019 10:47 PM

Someone taking a photo with Remys penis

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by Anonymousreply 30July 4, 2019 10:58 PM

Remy nudes ... there are 3

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by Anonymousreply 31July 4, 2019 10:59 PM

They are all bisexual, because sexually fluid means bisexual. And to "gay men" who call women hot, you are bisexual also. Because if you think women are hot, but claim to be "gay", you need to get off the drugs and realise you are bisexual just like these morons in this bullshit show.

by Anonymousreply 32July 4, 2019 10:59 PM

You can find a woman hot and not wanna fuck her r32. You make no sense.

One of them said they’re “trans-masculine”. Wtf is that?

by Anonymousreply 33July 4, 2019 11:01 PM

Remy making out with two guys.

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by Anonymousreply 34July 4, 2019 11:02 PM

R33: No an actual gay man would say a female is pretty or is attractive, but to go as far to call them "hot", is borderline bisexual. Gay men call hot men hot, they don't call women hot, because the word hot carries sexual heat. So calling women hot is what straight or bisexual men would say. How many straight men do you know that call men hot? They might say another guy is good looking, but that's not the same as saying hot.

by Anonymousreply 35July 4, 2019 11:08 PM

R35 you can’t be THIS dense...

by Anonymousreply 36July 4, 2019 11:09 PM

R36: You are the one who is dense and brainwashed.

by Anonymousreply 37July 4, 2019 11:10 PM

Imagine thinking that the word “hot” means you can’t be gay...

Cause gays can’t say ScarJo is hot? Or Megan Fox? Or Halle Berry? Etc. because if they say that it means they’re “Bi”? Please.

by Anonymousreply 38July 4, 2019 11:13 PM

R38: It's very basic, but most of you are stupid to understand definitions or context with anything, so it's not surprising that you think "gay men" can call women hot. The unfortunate and depressing reality is, majority of you are bisexuals identifying as gay on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 39July 4, 2019 11:30 PM

Why do you keep W/W your own stuff r39?

by Anonymousreply 40July 4, 2019 11:32 PM

Blocking bisexual at R40.

by Anonymousreply 41July 4, 2019 11:34 PM

Wtf is wrong with this psycho aka r41

by Anonymousreply 42July 4, 2019 11:36 PM

He's one of those anti-trans loons who infest the place, R42. Apparently, some of them have branched out into hating bisexual men and women, too. This was his post on another thread:

[quote]You need to fuck off Datalounge. You are going to be in for a big shock you gay and lesbian erasing bisexual, pansexual, trans, two spirit, queer lunatic, because pretty soon more evidence will be posted on Datalounge. The mountain of evidence will stack on top of the already existing mountain of evidence, of the nefarious hijacking and corporate erasure that has been designed to spread indescribable confusion; and erase gay people. Stay tuned on here for more.

by Anonymousreply 43July 5, 2019 12:08 AM

And another of his posts:

[quote]B needs to go as well. It always needed to go. We don't need any of them. A lot of gay people are still blind to the severe fuckery they let in by allowing the other letters to invade. Most bisexuals come and go when they please and don't fight for anything. They are just as bad, and they turn gay men and lesbian women into hypnotised slaves. Only those of us who are truly authentic and strong, will one day get BTQ+ out for good!

Just ignore him. He's obviously mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 44July 5, 2019 12:09 AM

Bi is in the same boat as the L and G. I’m sick of people acting like the B is the same as the T.

by Anonymousreply 45July 5, 2019 12:12 AM

With all those fluids, I hope they are using condoms.

by Anonymousreply 46July 5, 2019 12:19 AM

R35, kick rocks dude

by Anonymousreply 47July 5, 2019 12:25 AM

Remys could be hot

by Anonymousreply 48July 5, 2019 12:25 AM

The cast is much more attractive on the show than in previews

by Anonymousreply 49July 5, 2019 3:32 AM

Justin is cute

by Anonymousreply 50July 5, 2019 12:39 PM

The Black guy can be sexually fluid... all over my face.

by Anonymousreply 51July 5, 2019 12:46 PM

Remy, Danny, Brandon, Justin and Max range from cute to hot. Basit's personality is very attractive. I don't care for Jonathan. I'm not into FTMs, but there is something alluring about the highly sexual vibe Kai exudes.

by Anonymousreply 52July 5, 2019 1:02 PM

Brandon should be getting more attention, but his chill laid back personality doesn’t get much camera time.

by Anonymousreply 53July 5, 2019 1:06 PM

So interesting that the most masculine and attractive guy is the most uncomfortable with his bisexuality and other nonstraight men. It’s so true to life

by Anonymousreply 54July 6, 2019 10:49 AM

The anti-bi troll and the tranny troll are the same person.

by Anonymousreply 55July 6, 2019 11:12 AM

There are two black dudes in the pic. The women all look pretty basic.

by Anonymousreply 56July 6, 2019 11:13 AM

"Sexually fluid" is meaningless bullshit, but the producers can't use the word bisexual because it's too scary for mainstream audiences.

by Anonymousreply 57July 6, 2019 11:15 AM

R55: Bisexuality is sociopathic, and this is a GAY website. I hate tranny's and block them on here like I do bisexuals. So you are wrong, fuck off, and go worship sociopathic bisexuals on a bisexual website you stupid loser! Blocked!

by Anonymousreply 58July 6, 2019 2:00 PM

I only mess with bisexual dudes, and “mostly straights”

by Anonymousreply 59July 6, 2019 3:05 PM

"Hot" does usually carry a sexual connotation, r35 is right about that. It's not like saying a woman is "hot" automatically invalidates a "self-identified" gay's claim of actually being a homosexual, but it IS unusual to hear gay men talking about how "hot" this or that woman is. Anyone who denies that needs to spend more time with homosexuals.

I don't know anything about this show except the picture posted by OP, but the top-right is FTM, correct? Something about that one feels very off.

It's funny how there's two "similarly" shaped black guys, but the one on the left is super hot and the one who attended the "Tobia school of never getting laid" looks like a clown.

by Anonymousreply 60July 6, 2019 3:33 PM

R60, I hear young gay guys describe women as hot a lot. It’s far from rare

by Anonymousreply 61July 6, 2019 3:51 PM

It’s very common r61

by Anonymousreply 62July 6, 2019 3:55 PM

any guy on guy boning yet?

by Anonymousreply 63July 6, 2019 3:59 PM

r61 How young? Regular young or "DL young" (50's)? I'm 30, never heard it from ANY of my gay friends or myself. It's actually pretty funny how gays describe a conventionally attractive woman... it can almost sound clinical in it's non-emotional "just the facts" dispassion.

Are you sure your friends "frequently" talking about "hot" women aren't, you know, bisexual (AKA the orientation that likes guys AND girls)?

r62 Spreading the idea that gay men "commonly" describe women as hot is so ridiculous that you're very obviously a troll.

by Anonymousreply 64July 6, 2019 5:09 PM

I am LOVING the Justin and Max storyline on the show.

I understand Max very much and love seeing him slowly come to terms with his sexuality and even admitting he’s realizing he has internalized homophobia and that’s what keeps him from allowing himself to fully be with a man.

He lives his “straight life” back home in Ohio and then started living his “bi life” when he moved to LA. He seems very conflicted internally by what he likes and it was messed up how he pushed Justin away when they clearly are into each other, and claiming Justin was just his “bro”. They’re both Masc straight like men that are fit and athletic, so Max claimed they’re just “bros” but in reality it’s clear he’s into Justin as much as Justin is into him, especially when Justin won the date and didn’t pick Max and you could see Max was bothered and later admitted he was hurt Justin didn’t pick him but also admitted it was due to his own pushing away of Justin.

by Anonymousreply 65July 6, 2019 6:36 PM

Max and Brandon are my type

by Anonymousreply 66July 6, 2019 7:00 PM

The big black guy is hot.

All the other guys? NOPE.

by Anonymousreply 67July 6, 2019 7:00 PM

I think they’re all hot in motion minus two. I really dislike Jonathan.

by Anonymousreply 68July 6, 2019 7:01 PM

Justin is not conventionally masculine. He sometimes acts as someone with “some sugar with his tank.” He can act like a bro at times though

by Anonymousreply 69July 6, 2019 7:02 PM

Max is a great representation of millions of bi and straightish guts out there suppressing or grappling with their samesex interests

by Anonymousreply 70July 6, 2019 7:03 PM

Justin is very bro-ish but has some fem Mannerisms. But that doesn’t make him fem. he’s masc.

by Anonymousreply 71July 6, 2019 7:04 PM

Max is fighting against the same sex attraction so bad. He wants to be straight so bad, I feel for him.

by Anonymousreply 72July 6, 2019 7:05 PM

His situation is common

by Anonymousreply 73July 6, 2019 8:08 PM

R73 yup. I was like him. That’s why I love his storyline and him slowly trying to accept his attraction to Justin.

by Anonymousreply 74July 6, 2019 8:19 PM

So is Remy dating/screwing any girls because he may be rusty at this point - he is infamous in NYC for fucking every boy he can find - girls not so much.

by Anonymousreply 75July 9, 2019 3:13 AM

He fucks girls too.

I wouldn’t fuck someone that needs to get tested every week to make sure he didn’t catch something.

by Anonymousreply 76July 9, 2019 3:18 AM

Justin and Brandon ARE HOT. I keep hoping they'll at least hook up at some point but they seem to be avoiding each other.

I cannot stand that long haired Jonathan asshole. He's so needy and pushy. He likes muscular masculine guys yet he's out here with a skinny-average body, long hair and like a metrosexual hippie style. I kinda love that he keeps getting cockblocked by the part-time drag queen guy lol

by Anonymousreply 77July 9, 2019 3:28 AM

There will be mass pixellated genitalia, that's no fun.

by Anonymousreply 78July 9, 2019 3:30 AM

I HATE Jonathan. Omg. And he thinks Justin wants him. Justin doesn’t. Justin likes Max and Brandon.

by Anonymousreply 79July 9, 2019 3:32 AM

the best part is when Jonathan prematurely went in for a kiss and Justin barely obliged lol then he told him he was being too fast

by Anonymousreply 80July 9, 2019 3:37 AM

Jonathan thinks he’s too good for the “They” pronoun person. He isn’t. I actually like the part time Drag Queen overall and find “them” entertaining.

Jonathan is boring and creepy and thinks too much of himself.

by Anonymousreply 81July 9, 2019 3:39 AM

A preview of this week's episode. Max and Justin for the win

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by Anonymousreply 82July 9, 2019 4:57 AM

It'll be funny when all the women hook up with each other and the men just stand there staring at each other.

by Anonymousreply 83July 9, 2019 5:26 AM

Ewww

by Anonymousreply 84July 9, 2019 5:41 AM

I don't want to see any of these people.

by Anonymousreply 85July 9, 2019 5:49 AM

Every single fucker in that photo needs to be executed by firing squad. That's entertainment.

by Anonymousreply 86July 9, 2019 5:55 AM

for a show with all pansexuals. when they choose partners, haven't all of them picked a same sex partner almost 95% of the time?

by Anonymousreply 87July 9, 2019 9:49 AM

R87 many tend to pick one guy and one girl for dates.

There have been a few male/female pairings. But most of them are more into the same gender more it seems. Even Max who seems ashamed of his sexuality and mostly hooks up with women seems more into a man than any of the women.

I love Him and Justin and want them to end up together just so Jonathan’s gross ass cries.

by Anonymousreply 88July 9, 2019 3:07 PM

This will all end up status quo.

by Anonymousreply 89July 9, 2019 3:18 PM

Exploiting confused gay and bi sexuality for the lurid delight of the (most likely) 90% hetero audience. Should I kill myself now or wait for the premiere.

by Anonymousreply 90July 9, 2019 3:25 PM

Is there a bearded lady, strong man, tattooed freak, and a dwarf in the cast?

by Anonymousreply 91July 9, 2019 3:27 PM

R90 it premiered 3 weeks ago. Episode 4 is this Wed

by Anonymousreply 92July 9, 2019 3:30 PM

I heard they've already filmed all the episodes and on the last show the Organ Grinder has sex with his monkey.

by Anonymousreply 93July 9, 2019 3:33 PM

Basit is great, but Jonathan is trash. With black hole of a personality he tries to cover up with ugly hair.

by Anonymousreply 94July 9, 2019 3:55 PM

Justin and Brandon need to hook up. Max isn't hot enough

by Anonymousreply 95July 9, 2019 4:47 PM

Jonathan isn’t hot at all. Barf

by Anonymousreply 96July 9, 2019 5:18 PM

I love how Jonathan swears everyone tells him he’s so beautiful and gorgeous and he has an amazing face and amazing hair etc.

Girl bye. You’re meh at best.

by Anonymousreply 97July 9, 2019 6:24 PM

what's the point of the guy with the glasses? He seems to appeal to no one in the house and is just kinda there

by Anonymousreply 98July 9, 2019 6:29 PM

I feel bad for him r98. He seems like a nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 99July 9, 2019 6:30 PM

You can tell Justin doesn’t want Jonathan but he just won’t accept it.

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by Anonymousreply 100July 9, 2019 7:11 PM

I want someone to ask Remy about that Out magazine interview (the writer is a close friend - they yap on twitter together all the time) about the thousands of men he has supposedly fucked. The same author wrote another story about him for Vice I think claiming that he was matchmaker for tops and bottoms and was helping hundreds of gay men having more sex than ever. Or something. Never a mention of screwing much less dating girls - is he looking for Ms Right? Or is this just a typical fake reality show farce??

by Anonymousreply 101July 10, 2019 1:39 AM

He fucks women also. He even fucked the F2M trans pussy.

by Anonymousreply 102July 10, 2019 1:41 AM

They are all gross. So who cares.

by Anonymousreply 103July 10, 2019 1:44 AM

Thousands of women?

by Anonymousreply 104July 10, 2019 1:45 AM

He’s slept with over 1000 people. Not a specific gender. He said thus himself. He sleeps with PEOPLE. Gender doesn’t matter.

by Anonymousreply 105July 10, 2019 1:56 AM

The dude in the blue bikini top is "gender fluid"?

No, he gay.

by Anonymousreply 106July 10, 2019 2:13 AM

MTV is still around?

by Anonymousreply 107July 10, 2019 2:15 AM

The black guy on the left and the short guy in the back-middle with the tattooed arm are ok, the rest of the guys are nasty. Esp the one dressed like a drag queen without a wig.

by Anonymousreply 108July 10, 2019 2:25 AM

R108 they look better in motion than in pics.

by Anonymousreply 109July 10, 2019 2:28 AM

r105 That may be his story now that he is on a tv show identifying as fluid or bi but that was not how he and his "journalist" friend were pitching and promoting this guy a few years ago. He was some uber gay Top who had screwed over a thousand MEN not people. Anyway, he also wrote this ridiculous article for Gay Star News or some similar site about "Top privilege" which ostensibly was about how in gay culture tops are viewed as more masculine and attractive whereas bottoms are often shamed as weak or inferior but it was really just another opportunity for him to humblebrag about how many guys he had screwed.

I find it hilarious that he reinvents himself every few years and manages to get media exposure for no particular reason but with very little skepticism. He doesn't have any of the traditional markers of celebrity - he is attractive but no more so than thousands of other men in NYC, he isn't wealthy, and he has no particular musical or athletic talent - but he has cultivated a strong social media presence and that has connected him with journalists and tv producers. So good for him but I'm still left wondering how much of what he presents is actually real or true...Guess it doesn't matter in the end.

by Anonymousreply 110July 10, 2019 4:57 AM

Remy is gross. I hope he and Jonathan get together. They'd be well suited.

No one should aspire to fuck 1000 people

by Anonymousreply 111July 10, 2019 5:33 AM

I really like military gays. Justin is one of three I find attractive.

by Anonymousreply 112July 10, 2019 5:45 AM

And not surprisingly, absolutely NONE of the men on this are attractive.

by Anonymousreply 113July 10, 2019 6:08 AM

I'm in the middle of episode 3 and Jonathan's preferences shocked me. I thought he was one of those hippy nonbinary lovers.

by Anonymousreply 114July 10, 2019 6:26 AM

Jonathan is a poser.

by Anonymousreply 115July 10, 2019 6:37 AM

I also don't like how nonbinary/feminine men keep claiming that attraction to masculine men is internalized homophobia. Your politics doesn't change what I like.

by Anonymousreply 116July 10, 2019 6:47 AM

so Jonathan who's annoyed Basit can't take the hint he's not into him is mad that Justin doesn't have the same attraction that he does for him lol talk about lacking self-awareness

it was hilarious that Jonathan walked in the closet just after Justin and Max had finished making out

and Jenna going to kiss that std bag Remy just to mess with kai

these people are a mess

by Anonymousreply 117July 11, 2019 1:25 AM

OK I hate Jenna and Kai. I hate those people who scream at each other and then make out 5 seconds later that's pathetic

by Anonymousreply 118July 11, 2019 1:34 AM

R118 agree. I know people that argue because it turns them on.

by Anonymousreply 119July 11, 2019 2:48 AM

so now Jonathan is shooting his shot at his #2 choice Brandon. Run, Brandon, run! Jonathan is toxic!

by Anonymousreply 120July 11, 2019 2:54 AM

I truly truly dislike Jonathan. Like wow. And you can tell MTV thought he would be a fan favorite but most can’t stand him.

by Anonymousreply 121July 11, 2019 2:59 AM

I'm hoping Basit goes off on him again next episode

Nour is a nutcase too. Very possessive of Amber but she's made out with multiple people in her time in the house so far

by Anonymousreply 122July 11, 2019 3:07 AM

All the new labels in the world don't make these people new or interesting.

Next, please.

by Anonymousreply 123July 11, 2019 3:11 AM

My friend met Justin and said he’s super cute in person and Has a baby face.

He said he was shorter than he thought in person.

by Anonymousreply 124July 11, 2019 3:13 AM

R123 The correct label is "Talentless Attention Whores".

by Anonymousreply 125July 11, 2019 3:16 AM

MTV? That’s still a thing?

by Anonymousreply 126July 11, 2019 3:18 AM

R124 where? Justin is hot. I think he lives in California

by Anonymousreply 127July 11, 2019 3:18 AM

R126 Many Tainted Vaginas.

by Anonymousreply 128July 11, 2019 3:20 AM

R127 in LA.

And yes, he said he’s hotter in person with a very cute face and thick.

by Anonymousreply 129July 11, 2019 3:20 AM

R126 More Talentless Vacuums.

by Anonymousreply 130July 11, 2019 3:24 AM

R126 Manly Transgendered Vaginas

by Anonymousreply 131July 11, 2019 3:26 AM

R126 Mostly Treacherous Venereal.

by Anonymousreply 132July 11, 2019 3:32 AM

The last time something worth seeing came out of MTV ...

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by Anonymousreply 133July 11, 2019 10:50 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 134July 11, 2019 12:05 PM

These treads always just boil down to dick and ass shots. So proud of our community. I think I'll go march down the street naked with minimal body paint. You know, all classy like.

by Anonymousreply 135July 11, 2019 3:48 PM

R135 If there were a thread on DL about Anne Frank, it would end with dick and ass shots.

by Anonymousreply 136July 11, 2019 3:50 PM

R136 Otto Frank was hawwwt!

by Anonymousreply 137July 11, 2019 3:53 PM

Grow up r133

by Anonymousreply 138July 11, 2019 5:10 PM

Is "fluid" the same thing as bisexual? I have heard "fluidity" described as follows: One day you're 100 percent straight. Then one day, you wake up, and you're 100 percent gay. This would mean you weren't really born gay, but something (moon tides?) caused your sexuality to change. And it might even shift back...eventually. If this theory were true, then all straights would be at risk for suddenly waking up gay one day.

by Anonymousreply 139July 11, 2019 5:24 PM

r139 Its just bisexuality, nothing else.

by Anonymousreply 140July 11, 2019 5:30 PM

Someone said Justin lives in Harlem and has a boyfriend and this is all a farce.

by Anonymousreply 141July 11, 2019 5:30 PM

I noticed last week Justin's instagram was public. It was private last night when I looked

Viewer fave Jonathan is also on private. Probably getting lots of hate messages

by Anonymousreply 142July 11, 2019 5:41 PM

So are 89% of them going to end up with opposite sex partners like the general population of bisexuals? Or did they pick gay leaning bisexuals to make the show more interesting? This seems so fake - even more so than the straight versions of these shows.

by Anonymousreply 143July 11, 2019 7:50 PM

r139 People make the shit as they go along and almost everyone has their own idiosyncratic definitions. That is why it is almost impossible to standard surveys to capture these psuedo-identities - even surveys for basic sexual orientation and gender identity is problematic but some of these new categories are so abstract that they function more like social groupings than inherent traits. Non-binary, femme, queer, etc. are more like identifying as a goth or emo than gay or straight....

Hell, there is still a sometimes bitter dispute over bi vs pan, especially in any online settings that resembles warring fandoms that has lasted for over 20 years or so.

by Anonymousreply 144July 11, 2019 8:02 PM

R143 most of them seem to be going for same sex pairings so far

by Anonymousreply 145July 12, 2019 3:48 AM

r146 The producers know that the same sex dynamic is what sets it apart and they have marketed it as such and why I think they must have cast more gay leaning or actual gays (Remy isn't seriously looking for girlfriend but he is an expert BS artist) to guarantee that dynamic. And I am sure the cast members know that same sex action is more likely to make the final cut so the incentives are all in that direction.

by Anonymousreply 146July 12, 2019 4:09 AM

R146 Exploiting gay sexuality for the Ick and Ooh Factor for the mostly Fraus audience. Prestige television.

by Anonymousreply 147July 12, 2019 4:16 AM

Shut up r147!🙄

by Anonymousreply 148July 12, 2019 4:59 AM

r147 Well female bisexuality has always been tolerated so long as it was understood to be a temporary deviation from heterosexuality and performed primarily for the sexual titillation of straight men - indeed, in many contexts, female bisexuality is almost compulsory while lesbians were often sexually/physically assaulted for failing to submit to male sexual demands. The tropes about female sexuality being almost completely fluid is often portrayed in the media and academia as socially progressive and something men should aspire to as well - the Advocate seems to agree as their non-ironic cover with Nico Tortellino and his lesbian wife lionized as the ne plus ultra "queer family" revealed. Fluidity requires that the primary goal of LGBT (gay in increasingly verboten and tolerated as an embarrassing historical relic) activism must shift away from coming out as gay as a fixed identity but instead create a new social consensus that fluidity is a universal potential for everyone, gay and straight, and individuals should reject fixed identities as much as possible, even if that requires uncomfortable choices to engage in sex with people you aren't attracted to in the hopes that practice will eventually overcome what we mistakenly view as natural due culturally imposed binaries. The preachers of Fluidity insist that we liberate ourselves from the repressive confines of fixed identities and restrictive binaries and that utopia is just on the horizon, a generation or two at the most. Of course, this theory conveniently overlooks the structural forces of homophobia and heterosexism, which fluidity by itself won't tame but potentially compound and magnify. If sexual orientation is so pliant and malleable as the fluidity narrative demands, homosexuality will effectively become nothing more than a temporary indulgence tolerated for a short time so long as heterosexuality remains the privileged developmental end stage. Coming full circle, do we really want paradigm of female sexuality many laud as progressive - the drunk girls making out with each other as foreplay for their boyfriends or even the Lesbian until Graduation LUG - to become the social norm for everyone, especially gays and lesbians, which is where the fluidity narrative ultimately leads. I suppose it is great if your sexuality fits that mold but to pretend that it is universally true or desirable for all is dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 149July 12, 2019 3:08 PM

Uh, I love male fluidly and the growing “mostly straight” bros because it gives me access to more hotter, masculine jock types.

by Anonymousreply 150July 12, 2019 3:52 PM

r150 uh huh....

by Anonymousreply 151July 12, 2019 3:59 PM

r150 21 posts in this thread are from you - when do you have the time to screw all those hot fluids?

by Anonymousreply 152July 12, 2019 4:00 PM

[quote]when do you have the time to screw all those hot fluids?

in his dreams when he's asleep

by Anonymousreply 153July 12, 2019 4:02 PM

Gross! All of them!

by Anonymousreply 154July 12, 2019 4:07 PM

I don't even think most of the cast consider themselves sexualy fluid. If I remember correctly, at least one of the males is bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 155July 12, 2019 4:07 PM

Sexually fluid is just meaningless bullshit, anything to avoid saying "I'm attracted to people of my own sex".

by Anonymousreply 156July 12, 2019 4:46 PM

I loved watching how aggressive the make out session between Max and Justin was.

And how Max wanted Justin to ask him out and wouldn’t ask Justin out. He needed Justin to ask him out to the Prom. It was cute. Lol. He’s def the bottom.

by Anonymousreply 157July 13, 2019 1:30 AM

I will never understand how male bisexuality works. They want to dominate women but be submissive to men? Sounds confusing.

by Anonymousreply 158July 13, 2019 1:55 AM

How is that confusing? If they’re with a woman, they’re with a woman, so they top etc.

If they’re with a man they prefer to bottom because if they’re gonna top they might as well just be with a woman.

Most end up with women in the end. My friend was with many men and now married to a woman that will peg him if he wants to bottom etc.

by Anonymousreply 159July 13, 2019 2:00 AM

yeah when Justin lifted Max's leg up I knew what their roles will be when they have sex eventually

by Anonymousreply 160July 13, 2019 2:06 AM

R159 It's confusing because submissives don't usually find other submissives attractive. If I were bisexual, I would just be a top for men and women.

by Anonymousreply 161July 13, 2019 2:06 AM

Most bisexual men I know are total tops, and most urban Latin and Black

by Anonymousreply 162July 13, 2019 2:23 AM

R162 Most "total tops" are only waiting for a man dominant enough to take that hole. I don't think many "total tops" exist.

by Anonymousreply 163July 13, 2019 2:28 AM

R163, not really. Throughout human history, most homosexuality was strictly and rigidly separated between passive active roles for life, which actives usually bisexual in practice. That is the why it still is in most of the world, except the affluent and White West. Even in the West, some men are strictly one role or the other.

by Anonymousreply 164July 13, 2019 2:31 AM

Anyone else hate Jonathan? I truly can’t stand him.

by Anonymousreply 165July 13, 2019 2:34 AM

Jonathon had the nerve to attack Justin for wanting Max for the “physical” when he’s doing the same shit to Bisset with Justin.

by Anonymousreply 166July 13, 2019 3:01 AM

True

by Anonymousreply 167July 13, 2019 3:17 AM

"Most bisexual men I know are total tops, and most urban Latin and Black"

Most bisexual men I know are total bottom bitches

by Anonymousreply 168July 13, 2019 3:20 AM

Jonathan needs to realize that Justin doesn’t want his ass. Neither does Brandon.

Most bi guys I know are vers or bottoms with men.

by Anonymousreply 169July 13, 2019 3:21 AM

I hope Brandon does not hook up with Jonathan. ugh

by Anonymousreply 170July 13, 2019 4:10 AM

Virtue signalling for ratings is really tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 171July 13, 2019 6:59 PM

R171 then don’t watch.

by Anonymousreply 172July 13, 2019 7:06 PM

This show is really illuminating some aspects of my sexuality. I learned that I really do not find feminine men attractive.

by Anonymousreply 173July 14, 2019 1:51 AM

R173 I already knew that but this confirmed it.

I love Besit though, but not in a sexual way.

by Anonymousreply 174July 14, 2019 1:57 AM

R172 Also tiresome, and blocked.

by Anonymousreply 175July 14, 2019 6:33 AM

I think it’s pitiful to see effeminate men Whining about dudes not being attracted to them.

by Anonymousreply 176July 14, 2019 12:40 PM

I am watching right now and Max got so clingy to Justin so fast. I love how angry he was when Justin made out with Aasha

by Anonymousreply 177July 18, 2019 1:14 AM

Wow, Justin speaking about his father leaving when he was 4 and his mom not loving him broke my heart. No wonder he can’t commit.

by Anonymousreply 178July 18, 2019 1:27 AM

I HATE JONATHON

by Anonymousreply 179July 18, 2019 2:03 AM

not an once of sex appeal in the whole bunch...

by Anonymousreply 180July 18, 2019 2:38 AM

R180 they look better in motion.

by Anonymousreply 181July 18, 2019 2:42 AM

OK Max is annoying. First he didn't want to show emotion towards Justin then he gets super clingy in a short span of time. Dude is nuts

Yes Justin has issues going back to his childhood and is a whore but Max is acting like the most femme bottom around. Jealous of Justin kissing a girl lol

I can't stand Kai or Jenna or Nour

aww Danny. Maybe he and Basit will click

by Anonymousreply 182July 18, 2019 5:31 AM

I love Danny and Basit. They seem like sweet yet tortured souls.

I can’t stand Kai, Jenna, Nour and Jonathan. Jonathan is a loser that thinks he’s beautiful.

I like Justin. He seems like a sweet person, albeit a troubled whore. But that stems back to his childhood. It’s disgusting that his mom kicked him out in favor of her new boyfriend.

Max is letting his inner bottom come out full force lol.

by Anonymousreply 183July 18, 2019 11:25 AM

After seeing what they look like I can honestly say I do not care. None of these people are attractive or seem interesting.

by Anonymousreply 184July 18, 2019 11:39 AM

Imagine only watching a show based on the appearance of its cast? And they look better on the actual show than in pics.

by Anonymousreply 185July 18, 2019 11:41 AM

Are people eliminated each week like survivor or does the whole cast stay through the season?

Has the Remy - the not gay man who has fucked over 1000 men - fucked any girls yet?

by Anonymousreply 186July 18, 2019 4:37 PM

r186

he fucked Kai

by Anonymousreply 187July 18, 2019 4:42 PM

Kai is a trans man. But still has a pussy he fucked.

He also wanted to fuck Jenna and made out with her.

by Anonymousreply 188July 18, 2019 4:43 PM

I think Max is so clingy to Justin because he’s the first man that he ever allowed himself to connect with and have feelings for.

It’s like when some people lose their virginity, they feel this connection and sometimes clinginess to that person that too their V card.

He’s still being a messy bottom though.

by Anonymousreply 189July 18, 2019 5:01 PM

Justin has these fools whipped. Jonathan is obsessed with him, Nour was wanting him until they were a proven non match, Aasha wants to fuck him (and Max), Max is falling for him hard and fast. Boys got it.

by Anonymousreply 190July 18, 2019 5:05 PM

Nour has such a nasty attitude. She and Jonathan are the worst

that 5some was so fucking random. I can't believe Kai is the biggest whore of the house

by Anonymousreply 191July 18, 2019 5:23 PM

Kais whoreness is encouraged by Remy

by Anonymousreply 192July 18, 2019 5:36 PM

I think Kai is a whore because people in everyday life don't go around looking for transmen to sleep with. It has pent up horniness.

by Anonymousreply 193July 19, 2019 12:32 AM

This show is almost impossible since all of them are “fluid”. They might as well pick a name out of a hat.

by Anonymousreply 194July 19, 2019 12:48 AM

R193 true but I just don't find Kai that attractive. I'm not into transmen but I have seen a couple hot ones like Laith Ashley. Kai still looks like a lesbian who just cut the breasts off

by Anonymousreply 195July 19, 2019 12:51 AM

I’ve never been into trans men but I recently saw 2 or 3 i found very attractive and would consider trying it because they’re really cute in the face. They make pretty boys.

But most don’t.

R194 that’s why this season it went from 11 couples to 8. To help them.

by Anonymousreply 196July 19, 2019 1:03 AM

Justin has these kids wrapped around his pinky, especially Max and Jonathan (even though he wants to dispose of the latter).

by Anonymousreply 197July 19, 2019 1:09 AM

I don't usually like tattoos or nipple piercings, but I find Justin to be subtly attractive. I think it's his military background.

by Anonymousreply 198July 19, 2019 1:42 AM

Block R195. He thinks transmen are hot. Block the tranny lovers who are suppose to be "gay".

by Anonymousreply 199July 19, 2019 3:03 AM

I find Remy to be really fuckable ... love his charisma

by Anonymousreply 200July 19, 2019 6:16 AM

I am actually loving Justin and Max's storyline. I hate the show because they're obviously going to break up because Justin was in the boom-boom room with two other girls on the season's preview. :'(

It will be sooo unfair if Justin and Max didn't go into the boom-boom room together (or if they just aren't showing it, because they were cuddling together in a bed that one time which looks separated from the other people)

by Anonymousreply 201July 20, 2019 1:12 AM

Also, is it true that Justin actually has a boyfriend before he went into the show??

by Anonymousreply 202July 20, 2019 1:13 AM

All these bisexual guys seem pretty feminine. I think the stereotype is wrong.

by Anonymousreply 203July 22, 2019 7:43 PM

They’re gender fluid. Not bi.

by Anonymousreply 204July 22, 2019 8:20 PM

Max and Brandon and Justin identify as men and bi. The rest are fluid and gender non binary or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 205July 22, 2019 8:21 PM

I love Justin and Max. Theyre so into each other but almost seem hesitant and scared to be so into each other.

I did find it funny how Max went from scared and pushing Justin away to being full on clingy and even admitting he’s being clingy and that Justin has this “power over him”.

by Anonymousreply 206July 22, 2019 8:23 PM

Max annoys me and he's not hot.

I'd rather see Justin and Brandon fuck but they don't seem into each other at all

by Anonymousreply 207July 22, 2019 10:34 PM

Max is needy and clingy but he seems loyal and sweet also.

I think he’s cute.

Justin is adorable and my heart broke when he spoke about his mom. You could see the trauma in his face of dealing with that woman.

by Anonymousreply 208July 22, 2019 10:35 PM

They did a great job of casting

by Anonymousreply 209July 23, 2019 1:42 AM

Remy hanging out with model Laurent Charles Marchand

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by Anonymousreply 210July 23, 2019 10:37 PM

Video of Remy fucking model Laurent Charles Marchand

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by Anonymousreply 211July 23, 2019 10:38 PM

I only want to see Justin and Brendan fuck honestly.

by Anonymousreply 212July 24, 2019 1:47 AM

When I was young “sexual fluid” meant something entirely different.

by Anonymousreply 213July 24, 2019 1:55 AM

what the fuck. Why do so many people want to have sex with Remy? That model in R210 R211 actually had Remy fuck him. wow

I mean Remy's not ugly but I don't find him sexy at all and he's got no body

by Anonymousreply 214July 24, 2019 3:45 AM

He probably uses drugs and alcohol to unlock their holes. R214

by Anonymousreply 215July 24, 2019 3:52 AM

wtf Laurent is a bottom?? 😱😱

by Anonymousreply 216July 24, 2019 12:33 PM

wtf Laurent is a bottom?? 😱😱

by Anonymousreply 217July 24, 2019 12:33 PM

Laurent is probably vers

by Anonymousreply 218July 24, 2019 2:18 PM

So is Justin implying he's a bottom for Max? 🤔

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by Anonymousreply 219July 24, 2019 8:20 PM

eew I hope not. Max would not be a sexy top. He gives clingy bottom vibes

by Anonymousreply 220July 24, 2019 10:29 PM

R220 is most def the bottom

by Anonymousreply 221July 24, 2019 10:45 PM

Or they are both vers and switch it up.

by Anonymousreply 222July 24, 2019 10:45 PM

Max and Justin better be a PERFECT MATCH. I’ve never been so invested in another couple and they’re adorable.

by Anonymousreply 223July 25, 2019 1:13 AM

lol DL fave Jonathan causes drama by breaking up Justin and Max

Max then goes for Brandon can't blame him

Kai is a ho. wow

by Anonymousreply 224July 25, 2019 1:58 AM

Jonathan is TRASH. I am shocked everyone keeps so patient and calm with him. I would be dragging him by now.

by Anonymousreply 225July 25, 2019 1:59 AM

R225 you get your wish next week. Other DL fave Remy comes for Jonathan lol

by Anonymousreply 226July 25, 2019 2:05 AM

R226 he fucking lost them $250k. He’s so fucking delusional I can’t stand it. Idk how anyone can take him serious. I would wanna punch him.

JUSTIN DOESNT WANT YOUR ASS. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

by Anonymousreply 227July 25, 2019 2:08 AM

any one know what the dates were of filming?

by Anonymousreply 228July 25, 2019 2:28 AM

R228 the last week of March they started filming into May.

by Anonymousreply 229July 25, 2019 2:34 AM

Max went Platinum

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by Anonymousreply 230July 25, 2019 2:59 AM

I don’t like the Platinum on Max. He looked great with the first shade he did when he went lighter. There was no need to go Platinum.

This color looked best on him.

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by Anonymousreply 231July 25, 2019 3:03 AM

lol Nour gonna have a meltdown now that she and Amber aren't a match

by Anonymousreply 232July 25, 2019 3:51 AM

Nour is the worst. She’s lucky Jonathan is around to be even worse than the worst.

by Anonymousreply 233July 25, 2019 3:52 AM

All the guys are fug, next!

by Anonymousreply 234July 25, 2019 3:59 AM

You say that over and over. Who cares

by Anonymousreply 235July 25, 2019 11:19 AM

Max Gentile reminds me of Max Riemelt (from Free Fall and Sense8)

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by Anonymousreply 236July 25, 2019 2:15 PM

Brandon was spotted on Tinder, Aasha must have not been as perfect of a match for him it seems 👀

I think Brandon is more into men too. (or would like to explore with men more, because closet)

by Anonymousreply 237July 25, 2019 2:19 PM

Finally some screen time for Brandon

by Anonymousreply 238July 26, 2019 1:51 AM

Max seems very bitter on some of his lives.

He really fell for Justin hard but it wasn’t mutual because Justin can’t seem to get over the trauma from his mom.

by Anonymousreply 239July 30, 2019 2:32 PM

Brandon is really into Aasha.

I hate Jonathan.

by Anonymousreply 240August 1, 2019 1:28 AM

Thirsty bunch.

by Anonymousreply 241August 1, 2019 1:39 AM

How can Kai have a perfect match when he's slept and made out with half the cast? Who's going to be okay with that? Also, why don't the male and female giraffes get together?

by Anonymousreply 242August 1, 2019 5:02 AM

Did I just miss it or Brandon and Aasha didn't even kiss?? LMAO

by Anonymousreply 243August 1, 2019 10:06 AM

I dont think they kissed yet at all. They said themselves that they want to get to know each other better before being physical. I think they are doing this a more old fashioned way.

by Anonymousreply 244August 1, 2019 10:10 AM

how exactly do they determine who's "a perfect match"? I mean yeah the stupid machine but what are they basing it on? Personality traits?

Kai is so gross:

-Had a 2 week fling with Jenna acting like they can't give each other up

-hooked up with Remy

-had that 5some with a few of the girls

-continues to make out with Jasmin

-made out with Daniel

-now doing it with Nour

I'm actually looking forward to the Nour/Kai pairing. That's going to be a hot ass mess

Brandon & Basit perfect match? dream on.

by Anonymousreply 245August 2, 2019 6:36 AM

and lmao Remy saying he's NEVER been picked last before

by Anonymousreply 246August 2, 2019 6:42 AM

Is Remy going to finally find the woman of his dreams after fucking all those 1000s of men?

by Anonymousreply 247August 3, 2019 2:29 PM

Remy fucks women and men. There are women and men that have fucked him.

by Anonymousreply 248August 3, 2019 3:10 PM

Does Kai get fucked in the ass or vadge? That honestly confuses me when FTM get fucked in their pussy still. I'm all for them being a guy but a guy gets fucked in the ass

by Anonymousreply 249August 3, 2019 3:18 PM

R249 getting fucked in the ass usually doesn’t give them An orgasm. The vagina and the penis are different. It’s a lot more work to get a pussy to orgasm than a cock.

And some don’t use their vaginas anymore and don’t even acknowledge them but others still use them because their orgasms and horniness intensify on the hormones.

by Anonymousreply 250August 3, 2019 3:22 PM

who was the perfect match?

by Anonymousreply 251August 3, 2019 11:03 PM

R251 Brandon and Aasha are a Perfect Match and Jonathan and Basit are one too but didn’t go in the booth

by Anonymousreply 252August 3, 2019 11:08 PM

thanks and Jonathan and Basit are as well??? I fucking hate Jonathan and he has treated Basit like crap

by Anonymousreply 253August 3, 2019 11:17 PM

Basit is suddenly fawning over Jonathan because Jonathan "made him feel special" by giving him flowers and a crown lol

by Anonymousreply 254August 3, 2019 11:21 PM

Meanwhile Jonathon only did that because he has no choice after they blacked out and everyone was mad at him Minus Jenna who loves to coddle him.

He even admitted that if they didn’t black out he was certain Justin was his match despite Justin NOT WANTING HIM.

by Anonymousreply 255August 3, 2019 11:28 PM

r248 If you followed Remys twitter prior to this year it was 99% men - he is just milking this shit for TV. He was claiming to have slept with over 1000 men - no count on women

by Anonymousreply 256August 4, 2019 12:00 AM

He just fucked Kais pussy and wanted to fuck Jenna and Paige. He’s not fully gay.

by Anonymousreply 257August 4, 2019 12:03 AM

Not really. Remy was openly bisexual. Look at his Instagram

by Anonymousreply 258August 4, 2019 4:02 AM

We basically have 3 confirmed perfect matches now.

Brandon-Aasha

Jonathan-Basit

Qzhnrmv-Mlfi (decode this with an online Atbash Cipher decoder, if you want to know who this match is)

by Anonymousreply 259August 4, 2019 4:05 AM

I want Justin and Max to be a perfect match badly but I feel they won’t be.

by Anonymousreply 260August 4, 2019 8:54 AM

They had to be. If Danny/Kai is a match, then the only guy they can pair up with Max is Remy, which doesn't make sense. I believe the matchmakers paired Max with another male considering his situation.

by Anonymousreply 261August 4, 2019 11:49 AM

I also think they paired Max with a male and not female.

by Anonymousreply 262August 4, 2019 12:25 PM

I thought that already said Justin and Max weren't a match... didn't they go to the truth booth and they weren't a match?

by Anonymousreply 263August 4, 2019 12:29 PM

R263 they haven’t been to the truth booth. Before this past truth booth two weeks ago they never even had a date to be able to go in the truth booth. Then instead of sending them in they sent someone else.

The house never believed they were a match, that’s why it seems confirmed they aren’t. Remy is the only one that believes they are, until they blacked out after Jonathan fucked up. Now they believe they’re a perfect match.

by Anonymousreply 264August 4, 2019 12:38 PM

how do they even determine a match?

by Anonymousreply 265August 4, 2019 5:32 PM

They have professionals that ask you questions etc. before being cast and make matches that way. That also determines who they cast.

If they want you cast they will cast someone based on if they match you or vice verse. You may get cast because you are a perfect match for someone they already have cast.

by Anonymousreply 266August 4, 2019 6:33 PM

Remember the show has been moved to Monday at 11 PM!!!

probably a bad sign for ratings, but don't forget!

by Anonymousreply 267August 5, 2019 6:52 AM

lmfao so we're to believe now that Remy is really interested in Paige?

yeah OK

by Anonymousreply 268August 6, 2019 3:59 AM

Kai & Nour is the shitshow we were hoping for

I just don't see what's so hot about Kai for the half the house to have hooked up

by Anonymousreply 269August 6, 2019 4:08 AM

Justin and Max did a live and they’re seriously the cutest. Ugh. I love them.

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by Anonymousreply 270August 6, 2019 4:13 AM

I love Justin and Max ❤️

by Anonymousreply 271August 6, 2019 10:11 PM

These chicks fighting over Kai are hilarious drama

by Anonymousreply 272August 9, 2019 2:07 AM

I don’t want to fuck anyone on this cast but Justin. Max can join.

Brandon too I guess.

by Anonymousreply 273August 9, 2019 2:17 AM

r273 Same

r272 I can never understand girls smh. What do they see in Kai?? Kai looks sooo old to me

by Anonymousreply 274August 9, 2019 1:54 PM

The built black guy on the far left of the pic is very hot - he can cover me with his sexual fluids anytime!

by Anonymousreply 275August 9, 2019 3:29 PM

Brandon is the hottest and the fact that he didn't act like a whore on the show is even more of a turn on.

Justin is too loose for my liking

The rest of the men are gross

by Anonymousreply 276August 9, 2019 6:42 PM

I think Justin is adorable but yes, he’s too loose.

That’s why Max had to let him know he’s looking like a slut to everyone.

by Anonymousreply 277August 9, 2019 7:30 PM

I'm exhausted.

by Anonymousreply 278August 9, 2019 7:36 PM

I love this show.

I hate Jonathan.

by Anonymousreply 279August 9, 2019 11:37 PM

I'm sorry but none of these people are fluid. Unless fluid means hooking up exclusively with people of your same biological gender. There is no way Brandon is going to stay with that woman.

by Anonymousreply 280August 9, 2019 11:40 PM

R280 She’s the only person he was into. He wanted HER.

And Justin and Remy seem very into some of the women also.

Max wanted Paige but she turned him down ASAP. He said it wasn’t even in a subtle way, she did it bluntly and friendzoned him.

by Anonymousreply 281August 9, 2019 11:45 PM

I'm afraid they won't do another season like this. I mean it's a bad sign that they move a show from Wednesday primetime to Monday at 11 PM. That means the ratings are awful. They'll probably go back to all straight next season

we need another gay dating show.

I still despise that asshole escort who ruined Finding Prince Charming a few years ago for us

by Anonymousreply 282August 10, 2019 1:00 AM

Yes the ratings have been the lowest this shows ever gotten. It’s their lowest rated season, sadly, as it’s their best also.

This past episode only got 200k viewers. TERRIBLE.

by Anonymousreply 283August 10, 2019 1:14 AM

They should have chosen hotter/more intelligent cast members and minimized the gender queerness aspect. R283

by Anonymousreply 284August 10, 2019 1:21 AM

Yeah I think the gender fluidity really hasn’t very limited appeal. Most people have a very hard time relating to it. Most people only are interested in Binary conventional gender identity

by Anonymousreply 285August 10, 2019 1:24 AM

The show was getting around 500k a week but plummeted recently.

It has nothing to do with looks. The shows always cast a few cute ones with many average.

It’s that this shows audience is mostly straight, and they knew this season was a risk because of its audience, but they took the risk and their first instincts were correct.

by Anonymousreply 286August 10, 2019 1:37 AM

Why go to the extreme in breaking barriers? Why not start with attractive, conventional bi men and women?

by Anonymousreply 287August 10, 2019 1:49 AM

Because that’s not as fun to watch

by Anonymousreply 288August 10, 2019 2:03 AM

Because there are only two genders, r285, and each of us is one gender or the other, particularly when it comes to issues of sex, that's why

by Anonymousreply 289August 10, 2019 3:05 AM

R288, according to ratings this fluid thing isn't much fun to watch.

by Anonymousreply 290August 10, 2019 3:06 AM

It’s not about it being not fun.

There’s a reason most shows, especially reality TV shows, are almost all straight.

You guys choose to play delusional and blind.

by Anonymousreply 291August 10, 2019 3:12 AM

r281 Like all reality TV, very little of what makes it to the final cut is, in fact, "real" because it would make for shit TV otherwise. Production staff shape events either by explicit direction (some shows even provide scripts or rough outlines to contestants) or indirectly by manipulation and in post-production, hundreds of hours of video is edited down to a few minute sequences to fit the show narrative often with no regard to actual context. Not to mention that the people who make the cut to appear in these shows are basically performing roles and projecting a certain image for the public that often bares little resemblance to their actual lives. Prior to this show, Remy had a certain reputation in NYC as evidenced by his social media and the few articles written about him for Out and other gay rags by his friends and unless he was living in some inverted closet, very little of his sexual and romantic life involved women. Not saying he is 100% homo and I am sure he occasionally fucked some girls but he was leading a very sexually active gay life. But he is nothing if not a media whore so I am sure he jumped on his only chance of being of a national tv series and if that meant playing up his attraction to women, then I am sure he plays that role with gusto. But unless he suddenly found jeebus or a rich old lady, he is back to whoring around with men just like he was before....

by Anonymousreply 292August 10, 2019 3:36 AM

AYTO isn’t scripted. All it’s cast and even past cast that resent the show (season 5 cast hate the Production of this show because they feel they were manipulated to lose the money) say this show is very very real.

One factor the Production plays a role in is they give them a lot of alcohol.

by Anonymousreply 293August 10, 2019 3:40 AM

Isn't there a british version of this show where a guy killed himself claiming that the show basically ruined his life because he was made out to be the bad guy?

by Anonymousreply 294August 10, 2019 4:26 AM

Not one of these dudes likes tacos.

by Anonymousreply 295August 10, 2019 5:20 AM

Brandon does

by Anonymousreply 296August 10, 2019 6:21 PM

Is Justin trans?

by Anonymousreply 297August 12, 2019 6:06 PM

People can’t relate to the gender fluid, pansexual stuff

by Anonymousreply 298August 12, 2019 6:08 PM

It just seems bizarre to me that sex, gender and gender expression have been conflated in so many ways that people now think one can literally morph at any time not only from male to female but to any number of imaginary identities made up by fanfic writers who simply added non- or a- to words. It is strange how the most trivial and often repressive manifestations of sex and gender roles like clothing, speech, and personality that form our perceptions of masculinity and femininity - concepts that had become over time rigid and enforced as social normatives in the forms of sexism and homophobia that women and gays have fought against - have suddenly become reified as evidence of our true inner selves - males are masculine and females are feminine and if you don't feel completely consonant with those traditional social roles then rather than change the social roles, you just change your sex/gender! Problem solved right? I guess the conservatives were right all along - butch women are really men and queeny gays are really women!

by Anonymousreply 299August 12, 2019 7:43 PM

Also, it seems like some of this is motivated by internalized homophobia - homosexuality is same sex attraction so if you don't want to be a gay man and you can't change your attractions (odd how the same people insisting that sexuality is so fluid aren't championing the ex-gays) then change your sex/gender by identifying as anything other than a man and you are no longer technically gay.

by Anonymousreply 300August 12, 2019 7:59 PM

Why aren't Justin and Max a perfect match? I thought it was confirmed?

by Anonymousreply 301August 12, 2019 9:12 PM

Last week's episode... why did they film Kai and Nour talking and being boring when Max and Justin were sitting right there, cuddling and being cute? ugh.

by Anonymousreply 302August 12, 2019 9:30 PM

Ugh.... apparently they're not a match. This makes me sad. Oh well. Good to know I won't have to waste any more time on this stupid show.

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by Anonymousreply 303August 13, 2019 6:35 AM

R292 When will DLers realize that being bi doesn't necessarily mean you have the same attraction to both genders? It doesn't have to be split 50-50. It can be 90-10 one way or the other, they would still be bisexual. Many of the women on this show seem to lean lesbian, that doesn't mean they aren't bisexual. Just most times they go for women. Same can be said about the men, most timed they lean gay, but they can still be bi.

by Anonymousreply 304August 13, 2019 6:42 AM

OMFG ENOUGH OF FUCKING KAI!!!!!

Kai fucking monopolizes the show with his immature behavior. I'm sick of it. Then playing the victim in tonight's episode STFU

by Anonymousreply 305August 13, 2019 6:55 AM

R305 Exactly. It's his own fault because of his shitty behavior.

by Anonymousreply 306August 13, 2019 7:01 AM

r304 My point wasn't that Remy wasn't sexually attracted to some women at some points in his life or even to get into debates over the nature of sexuality and identity - it was just that Remy is an obnoxious and notorious self-promoter, especially among a certain set of NYC wannabe A gays, so it was ironic to see him reinvent himself as a millenial sexually fluid icon for the sole purpose of being on MTV.

by Anonymousreply 307August 13, 2019 11:35 AM

So will any of them end up matched with the same sex? Who are these experts who match the couples and has the issues of homophobia and heterosexism been addressed at all?

by Anonymousreply 308August 13, 2019 11:39 AM

R308 Literally what I was thinking. If Danny and Kai make the only gay perfect match I'm gonna be so mad. The match makers are clearly incompetent or homophobic or both. It's clear Max and Justin have amazing chemistry. If the match makers couldn't predict that then they're shit at their jobs.

by Anonymousreply 309August 13, 2019 12:08 PM

Have they matched Remy yet? If they put him with a woman, you know the show is a farce...

by Anonymousreply 310August 13, 2019 12:50 PM

Justin and Max, although hot together, are not a good match. Max wants a boyfriend and Justin wants to fuck everyone. He can't have his cake and eat it too. Like, it's obvious Max wants a monogamous relationship and there is no way in hell Justin will ever do that.

by Anonymousreply 311August 13, 2019 1:54 PM

Watching the new episode now and Justin is such a hoe. He is literally like "I will make out with other people and grind on them and Max just have to accept it!" I doubt this is what Max wants, he just agrees to it because he doesn't want to lose him. Max got way too clingy way too fast and is very jealous while Justin is way too loose. They are a terrible match.

by Anonymousreply 312August 13, 2019 2:02 PM

Justin is such a hoe. It's rich of him to be all high and mighty about Kai's behavior when he's doing the same to Max. He's such a hypocritical douchebag ugh.

by Anonymousreply 313August 13, 2019 2:15 PM

Justin: "I care about his feelings more than I care about my desires." What does he want, a fucking badge? It's obvious he's not as into this as Max is, like... Max should be enough, yet he admits he has desires for others. It's just a matter of time before he cheats.

by Anonymousreply 314August 13, 2019 2:18 PM

well to be fair Justin is hotter than Max. Max needs to fix that body.

but yeah Justin like Kai isn't into monogamy.

Remember the producers had Terrence J announce to us that Basit and Jonathan are a perfect match even though they haven't gone into the booth yet so that's 1 gay pairing

by Anonymousreply 315August 13, 2019 6:37 PM

I don't think most people are interested in watching Kai hookup with the entire house.

by Anonymousreply 316August 13, 2019 6:46 PM

I just watched their Insta live from yesterday and I have to admit Justin comes off much better. On the show he just doesn't seem that into Max while Max is totally into him and loyal as fuck while Justin is off kissing half the cast lol. I still think they're in different stages of their lives, Justin wants to party and fuck around while Max wants a boyfriend. He got attached fast, who can blame him if this was his first same sex relationship. I get it. I'm glad they still talk after the show, it means their connection really was genuine, they might not be meant for each other, but I do think they will continue to have a friendship.

by Anonymousreply 317August 13, 2019 8:17 PM

As a follow up: I do think Justin was into Max, he was definitely attracted to him, but like R315 said Justin just isn't into monogamy, which is fine. He's 24. He should be out having fun. It's obvious Max wanted something more though.

by Anonymousreply 318August 13, 2019 8:23 PM

I changed my mind, Justin isn't that attractive to me anymore. I would fuck his body, but not his face.

by Anonymousreply 319August 14, 2019 1:18 AM

I actually think Justin is adorable. Especially in person. He’s very cute!!

Max is just ok.

They aren’t a match. Justin is very nonchalant and free spirited and just wants to have fun and explore and fuck. He also had a bad childhood (poor thing).

Max is very needy, clingy, uptight, paranoid, suffers from anxiety, worries about everything, wants to settle down with one person yet had an amazing childhood.

Remy and Paige did a live together and they said Justin is very laid back and fun and calm while Max is very uptight and complains about EVERYTHING. He’s that person that will complain about nothing if there is nothing to complain about.

by Anonymousreply 320August 14, 2019 1:22 AM

What Justin “is doing” to Max is nothing like what Kai has been doing. Justin is honest with Max about wanting to fool around with others, it’s that Max isn’t having it. Kai isn’t honest about it and messes with all these women’s heads.

Justin doesn’t even refer to Max as his, while Max referring to Justin as his boyfriend.

I do think Justin likes Max and you can tell they’re very into each other but they’re in different places of life that won’t work.

Max pursued Amber first but she turned him down. He then pursued Paige who also turned him down hardcore he said. She friendzoned him ASAP. He said Justin isn’t his type initially but he was attracted to him and as they bonded he grew strong feelings for him.

Justin’s first pursuit was Nour (as we saw) and then Max after. Max turned him down at first (as we saw) but then realized he did want Justin and the rest is history.

PS Remy said on his live that Max is the top and Justin bottoms but is Vers. Remy also said he himself has bottomed but it’s not for him so he’s just a top.

by Anonymousreply 321August 14, 2019 1:28 AM

R320 Yeah, I agree that they aren't a match. Justin is laid back and just wants to have fun. He wants to fuck around and not be in a monogamous relationship, at least not right now. Max is needy and clingy and uptight. He is insecure and suffers from anxiety and complains a lot. Not good qualities, however very relatable. I'm exactly thr same way. I am very insecure, stems from being called ugly my entire life and I was severly bullied as a kid. That messes with your head. I think Max still has some internalized homophobia, like how he pushed Justin away because he was scared of his same sex attraction. I think being closeted for that long messes with your head. It doesn't excuse all his bad qualities, but I understand why he's like that.

by Anonymousreply 322August 14, 2019 8:16 AM

I like Max and we all have bad qualities. I hope I didn’t come off like I was bashing Max, I wasn’t. I’m just stating why they aren’t a match, and it’s not about the anxiety etc. so much but that he wants to be monogamous and Justin doesn’t.

by Anonymousreply 323August 14, 2019 8:54 AM

R323 Yeah, I definitely agree with that. They both just want different things and the monogamy issue is not exactly something they can compromise on. You either want monogamy or you don't.

by Anonymousreply 324August 14, 2019 12:34 PM

Has anyone seen Justin's new Insta story? I think he knows he came across bad in the new episode. He was a hoe making out with everyone lol.

by Anonymousreply 325August 14, 2019 12:35 PM

Justin looked good. Kai is awful.

by Anonymousreply 326August 14, 2019 1:54 PM

What's this beef between Kari and Max on Twitter? I'm legit so confused.

by Anonymousreply 327August 14, 2019 2:05 PM

R326 He made out with everyone when he knew Max wasn't ok with it though. Sure, he told Max before he did it, which is the difference between the Kai situation and this, but Justin should have seen that Max was not comfortable with it and dialed it down. Or he could have just ended it with Max if that's what he wanted. He was sorta stringing him along when he clearly didn't want anything serious.

by Anonymousreply 328August 14, 2019 2:08 PM

R328 Justin never gave Max a title. He told him up front he wants to explore everyone. If Max wants to deal with that is up to him. He clearly does. Justin never lied or said “you’re the one I want” etc. he told Max straight out.

That’s honest.

Max is the one that chooses to deal with it. It’s his choice to leave or not.

by Anonymousreply 329August 14, 2019 2:23 PM

I'm surprised they are not more messy than they have been with all the drinking... you know in the real world, they would all be smoking while drinking. Does MTV not show their contestants smoking anymore or are all of these guys nonsmokers? That seems unlikely

by Anonymousreply 330August 14, 2019 10:41 PM

Did someone submit a question about who is top and bottom or did Remy just bring it up sua sponte? He is obsessed with these cliched gay classifications and wrote a silly oped a few years ago for gay star news about "top" privilege and bottom shaming - ostensibly as critique but it read more like 19th century male patronization of women and relied heavily on naturalized assumptions that these sexual acts determine gendered personality traits and adhere to socially prescribed roles of masculinity and femininity. And he clearly sees himself as a masculine top and expects his male sexual partners to be passive bottoms - probably the same way he views women. No surprise there...

I have always gotten a bad vibe from him but he clearly impresses a certain set of NYC gays and MTV casting directors....

by Anonymousreply 331August 15, 2019 4:20 AM

There are only 9 combinations left at this point and Justin and Max appears in one of them, meaning they have 1 in 9 shots of being a perfect match. And trust me when I say that the combination they are in is the only combination of matches that make sense.

by Anonymousreply 332August 15, 2019 12:49 PM

Kai looks more like a butch lesbian than a trans man.

by Anonymousreply 333August 15, 2019 1:05 PM

Just saw the promo for the new episode. Max is making out with Amber. This means he and Justin are not a perfect match.

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by Anonymousreply 334August 16, 2019 5:22 AM

R214 Idk why Remy has sex appeal, but he does. He's not even hot but there's something about him. He's confident and knows what he wants. He's experienced. Sometimes that can get you far. It's funny because I started off being annoyed by him but after a while I could see his appeal. I still find most of the guys sexier though, mind you. Justin, Max and Brandon are the hottest guys. Danny is cute in a nerdy kinda way. Everyone else can fuck off, lol. If they do a sexually fluid season again I hope they choose hotter guys. It's odd seeing all these hot women and then the really ugly guys. Like, Justin isn't even THAT hot, he's like a 6.5, but in that house he's like a 10. That says it all about the lack of hotties.

by Anonymousreply 335August 16, 2019 3:35 PM

R335 One more thing: You might find Remy annoying, but he was the only one to go AWF of Jonathan. He had the balls to call him out on what he did. Because of his jealousy they ALL lost 250k dollars.

by Anonymousreply 336August 16, 2019 3:38 PM

I want Justin to tell me more about his experiences in the marine. I bet he had a lot of sex with some really hot and masculine marine guys.

by Anonymousreply 337August 16, 2019 3:39 PM

R225 Remy DID drag him, did you miss it?

by Anonymousreply 338August 16, 2019 3:49 PM

R220 I thought it was a given Max was a bottom. Justin likes to take control, lifting Max' leg up when kissing etc. Max gives off really strong clingy bottom vibes. I was shocked when Remy said Justin was vers and Max was a top. I just can't picture Max as a top at all.

by Anonymousreply 339August 16, 2019 3:58 PM

How can people hate Remy? Yes, he's a whore but aren't they all? Like, he has been open about his conquests. At least he's one of the few playing the game and gave Jonathan hell for the shit he pulled. He's legit the only one in the house who believes in Max and Justin.

by Anonymousreply 340August 16, 2019 4:55 PM

r334 they used old a lot of old clips to throw people off. The Max and Amber thing apparently happened in Week 1

by Anonymousreply 341August 16, 2019 5:53 PM

r339 He promised Justin he would bottom for him if they won the show

by Anonymousreply 342August 16, 2019 5:55 PM

R341 So if they're using old clips to throw people off, then that means Max and Justin are a perfect match after all?

by Anonymousreply 343August 16, 2019 5:59 PM

I just hate how fake Remy acts with Paige, acting as if he might be interested in her outside the house. Yes, I know they have to play up these romantic pairings for the show; he's just really bad at faking being interested in her.

I think he would look better without the facial hair. He was kind of hot in the last two episodes during the party (when he was wearing a choker).

by Anonymousreply 344August 16, 2019 6:42 PM

r341 It is a possibility. If you're following the math, there are only 9 combinations of matches left, and Justin-Max appears in one of them. In my opinion, the combination they are in makes the most sense to me, that's why I believe they are a match

by Anonymousreply 345August 16, 2019 7:16 PM

I don't find Max hot. His face is OK but no body and his personality is a turnoff. I can't believe he might be a top. He seems like a clingy, whiny bottom who will turn psycho if you break up with him

if he and Justin are a match, they'll be broken up before the year is over with the way Justin gets around

by Anonymousreply 346August 16, 2019 7:29 PM

R344 I agree about that, but Remy is no more fake with Page than Jonathan is with Basit. It's so obvious Jonathan can't stand Basit, he is really bad at faking it, whether it's about the attraction or them just being friends. Like you said, they have to play up the attraction and yes it's obvious Remy is not into Paige, but they do seem like really good friends (unlike Jonathan and Remy).

by Anonymousreply 347August 16, 2019 7:36 PM

Max and Justin reading fanfiction. I thought this was cute

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by Anonymousreply 348August 16, 2019 7:47 PM

I was thinking Jonathan and Remy would be a hilarious match but we know now that Jonathan's match is Basit

by Anonymousreply 349August 16, 2019 7:48 PM

R346 I can't believe it either. I was shocked when Remy said Justin was vers and Max was a top. Justin seemed to confirm it too by the reply to the tweet.

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by Anonymousreply 350August 16, 2019 8:00 PM

lol

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by Anonymousreply 351August 16, 2019 8:11 PM

Let's make a list of which way the bi guys are leaning, just for fun. Here's my take:

Remy - gay leaning bisexual

Basit - gay leaning bisexual

Jonathan - gay leaning bisexual

Danny - straight leaning bisexual

Max - gay leaning bisexual

Justin - straight leaning bisexual (seems more into the women in the house with Max being the exception)

Kai - straight leaning bisexual (well "straight" for a trans guy, he seems more into the women in the house with Remy being the exception)

Brandon - straight leaning bisexual (don't know enough about him, but he did seem really into Aasha, so...)

by Anonymousreply 352August 16, 2019 8:13 PM

Brandon leans toward men, Max probably leans toward women and I think Justin probably leans towards men, I guess the men in the house are not just his type. Especially when 2 of them identify as non-binary and one of them is Jonathan. So he'll only have Danny, Brandon and Max as only viable choices.

by Anonymousreply 353August 16, 2019 8:44 PM

Generally though, I think most people in the house are more into their own sex than not

by Anonymousreply 354August 16, 2019 8:46 PM

Well well... in the preview for next week Max and Amber are working together on a task and they will probably win, hence the date and preview of them kissing.

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by Anonymousreply 355August 16, 2019 8:58 PM

R353 Why do you think Max leans towards women? Yes, he's mostly been with women before but that's just because he was scared of his same sex attraction. The way he got clingy to Justin so fast tells me that he's at least very into guys too.

by Anonymousreply 356August 16, 2019 9:00 PM

Twitter videos work better.

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by Anonymousreply 357August 16, 2019 9:06 PM

r356 I actually based that on how he's been with more women like you said, but now that I think about it, Brandon was his second choice, so maybe he is actually more into men?

by Anonymousreply 358August 16, 2019 9:07 PM

Is this show homophobic? All the men are either femme or gender non-conforming while all the women are beautiful lipstick lesbians like WTF?! If this show comes back with a another sexually fluid season next year they gotta do a better job at picking the men because this ain't cutting it.

by Anonymousreply 359August 16, 2019 9:14 PM

True, those guys are ugly as hell. Is Basit sexually Fluid?

by Anonymousreply 360August 17, 2019 12:39 AM

Basit is sexually fluid and the first person he was into was a female.

They all fuck anyone. Gender means nothing to any of them. You all are thinking way too hard about something that doesn't need to be.

Justin said on his live a few days ago that he is very 50/50 and he has sex with women just as much as men, its all about attraction. He said having sex with each has its ups and downs.

by Anonymousreply 361August 17, 2019 2:38 AM

Actually, Max first choice was Amber, but she ended up swerving him. His second choice was Paige, who friend zoned him ASAP. He was not into Justin at first until they started bonding and then Justin became his number one, with Brandon second.

Justins first pick was Nour, as we saw, and then Max.

As for Remy being fake with Paige, no, he isn't. They are in that house with only each other for 6-8 weeks, and he saw her as a conquest because she had no interest. Paige even said on their live together that he was obsessed with the fact she had zero interest in him and told him "NO". She said he was not used to hearing no and being rejected and he didn't know how to take it so he took it hard.

We see him crying, those are genuine tears, but more because he wants her so bad, its because he cant have her and he doesn't know how to deal with the rejection of her not wanting him back at all.

Jonathan is genuinely fake and only doing all this because he knows that Justin isn't his perfect match and has no choice now. But even Basit doesn't fuck with him post show. Seems like almost no one does.

by Anonymousreply 362August 17, 2019 2:56 AM

r362 Oh please - just because Remy has screwed his way through the most of NYC gay club and sex party scene isn't really saying much - he is young(ish) attractive and has confident demeanor which can you lots of sex if you are gay in a large urban city. But there are thousands more gay men in NYC who are have perfect gym sculpted bodies and/or stunning faces and with professional careers who wouldn't give him the time of day - maybe a quick fuck at the end of the night but that isnt saying much - sex is so much easier even for mediocre looking gay men than for straight men, especially if they aren't picky. So the idea the a woman, who I doubt he has the same level of intense physical attraction as he does men, turning him down triggers some ego driven reaction based passion is pseudo-psychological BS - that might be the narrative the show wants because it makes better TV drama but bitch please...

by Anonymousreply 363August 17, 2019 4:50 AM

Remy, like them all, are playing a game like all reality shows - and little of it has to do with finding you true love.

by Anonymousreply 364August 17, 2019 4:52 AM

Why is nobody talking about how Kai is the worst person on this show?

by Anonymousreply 365August 17, 2019 6:40 AM

R364 I think we have? I don't understand how the whole house is against Justin and Max though, like... how can they with a straight face say that Justin is the worst communicator in the house when there's Kai? LOL. I call BS. This is the producers intervening yet again.

by Anonymousreply 366August 17, 2019 11:16 AM

r356 I think it has to do with the way he speaks.

by Anonymousreply 367August 17, 2019 12:31 PM

r366 I mean

by Anonymousreply 368August 17, 2019 12:31 PM

None of it has to do with producers. When even past cast members that hated their experience say the Producers don’t have much to do with the drama and nothing is scripted, you know it’s true.

“Producer blaming” is a lazy way to ... pass blame.

by Anonymousreply 369August 17, 2019 12:36 PM

The problem with the media portrayal of gender fluid men is that they seem to present that group as essentially effeminate or unorthodox gender men. Brandon is the only conventionally masculine guy in the group. Perhaps they should have casted more dudes like Brandon to balance out the fem Males.

by Anonymousreply 370August 17, 2019 2:39 PM

Cute

[Quote]Happy birthday to my @dramaxic 🎉🎊🎉🎊 enjoy it KING! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

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by Anonymousreply 371August 17, 2019 5:10 PM

Remy even said in this past episode that hes never had someone that's not impressed by him. That draws him to her for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 372August 17, 2019 9:39 PM

I think Max has a nice body, despite the lack of abs. He has a nice hairy chest. Just the way I like it 😉

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by Anonymousreply 373August 19, 2019 6:38 AM

Hm....

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by Anonymousreply 374August 19, 2019 10:34 AM

r372 Remy is full of shit....

by Anonymousreply 375August 19, 2019 12:11 PM

This is basically ( ̶B̶)PQT gone wild. We will never hear the end of it from twitter SJWs/TRAs about this show

by Anonymousreply 376August 19, 2019 12:28 PM

Yikes at this thread.... The Jax fans are NOT happy with Max!

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by Anonymousreply 377August 19, 2019 1:54 PM

Preview for tonight.

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by Anonymousreply 378August 19, 2019 4:28 PM

I have a bad feeling, like in my gut, that they're not a perfect match but I hope I'm wrong.

by Anonymousreply 379August 19, 2019 4:41 PM

So... are they a perfect match or not? I need to know.

by Anonymousreply 380August 20, 2019 5:38 AM

I hope they're not a match that would be fucking hilarious to see Max going on a major meltdown. His negative nancy personality annoys me

by Anonymousreply 381August 20, 2019 7:41 AM

R381 Please fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 382August 20, 2019 7:44 AM

There are no Male-Male match if they aren’t a match, unless Justin and Remy are. This is sickening, I can’t watch anymore, the matchmakers fucked up 100% if they think Danny and Kai are a match

by Anonymousreply 383August 20, 2019 7:51 AM

R381 Max is the only good thing on this show

by Anonymousreply 384August 20, 2019 7:52 AM

Brando is

by Anonymousreply 385August 20, 2019 8:05 AM

Brandon is

by Anonymousreply 386August 20, 2019 8:06 AM

R383 Did you forget about Basit and Jonathan? They're a confirmed match. But yes, I agree that out of 8 possible matches we might only end up with one male-male (maybe two because of Kai/Danny) and it's BS. Clearly some underlying homophobia at work here. Would not be surprised if the matchmakers are Trumpsters. On the flip side, this is why I'm not taking it hard if they aren't a match. These matchmakers are clearly full of shit. Like... who in their right mind thinks Danny and Kai are a perfect match? LOL. Yet they are if Justin and Max aren't. Max and Justin formed a connection, PM or no PM. It has lasted even after the show so you can tell it's genuine.

by Anonymousreply 387August 20, 2019 8:59 AM

R384 I agree. His storyline is so important for all those out there struggling with their sexualities. Like, we saw so much growth from him, from not giving himself entirely because he's afraid of his feelings, to giving himself fully with all his heart. I think a lot of people can see themselves in him, the happiness and relief when Max finally did explore his attraction/feelings toward Justin. That's something not really seen before on tv. That's why this show is important, despite it only being a dating show.

by Anonymousreply 388August 20, 2019 9:03 AM

R382 and R384 nope

while I appreciate Max's struggle to accept himself, he's too insecure, jealous, needy and possessive for me to cheer him on. I find him annoying. He knows this show is about exploring one's options. If he and Justin are deemed a match, their relationship sure as hell won't last that long outside the house. Justin is a whore and Max is too uptight

At least the Remy/Paige joke of a pairing can now be put to rest. While the idea of "a perfect match" is still BS IMO, at least the show is more believable. No way would I have accepted those 2 as a pair

by Anonymousreply 389August 20, 2019 9:19 AM

🤣😂🤣😂

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by Anonymousreply 390August 20, 2019 9:41 AM

R389 Is probably Jonathan 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 391August 20, 2019 9:42 AM

Jonathan-Basit and Danny-Kai doesn’t count because Basit and Kai are non-genders according to them

by Anonymousreply 392August 20, 2019 10:13 AM

R392 Yeah, I know. That's why I'm not sweating it if Justin and Max are a no match. I know the matchmakers are probably bigots and full of shit. Like, if Justin and Max are not a match then Danny and Kai are and Danny and Kai barely get along. They're hardly a perfect match. I think this is where the matchmakers let their bigotry cloud their judgment. They paired the obvious femme/no-binary guys with other men while all the masculine guys are paired with women. It's so fucking transparent.

by Anonymousreply 393August 20, 2019 1:49 PM

This is a great interview with Max, old but well worth the watch anyway.

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by Anonymousreply 394August 20, 2019 2:25 PM

The promo for the episode just gave it away. Justin and Max are not a perfect match. Fucking bigoted matchmakers don't think two masculine men can make a nice couple, fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 395August 20, 2019 3:01 PM

Jenna and Remy confirmed that they voted for Kai as the worst at communicating. Yet Justin was voted the worst, lol. Ok then.

by Anonymousreply 396August 20, 2019 3:11 PM

Has there been any actual man on man butt sechs?

by Anonymousreply 397August 20, 2019 3:23 PM

I can't believe we have a mega Max stan in this thread. He's really not that great

The only hot men are Brandon and Justin. I like Brandon's personality better

Max, Jonathan and Remy are annoying as fuck

by Anonymousreply 398August 20, 2019 5:36 PM

R397 Max fucked Justin.

Danny and Remy apparently went into the Boom Boom Room on Week 1 but wasn’t showed.

by Anonymousreply 399August 20, 2019 11:58 PM

Kai is not a cis man. Kai doesn't count when discussing male-on-male relationships.

by Anonymousreply 400August 20, 2019 11:59 PM

R398 you’re the only anti-Max here. Brandon is good, but he’s boring

by Anonymousreply 401August 20, 2019 11:59 PM

I don't think anyone is anti-Max... he's just not the fun personality or beauty you are painting. Justin is the fun one and the hotter one, to be honest. Max is uptight, clingy, moody, needy and incredibly insecure. He is someone you would have to constantly reassure that all is fine and hes the one you want. The minute you dont give him all your attention he would be upset and worried.

Him and Justin would never work in the long run, and they aren't a perfect match because on paper they aren't compatible. It has nothing to do with "homophobia".

One wants to be monogamous and is insecure and clingy and needy, while the other wants to just have fun and is very secure in himself, nonchalant and slutty.

While in some ways that can make balance as a couple, in others that would never work.

by Anonymousreply 402August 21, 2019 12:17 AM

Even Remy said on live how hard it was dealing with Max sometimes because hes so negative and always complaining. He complains about EVERYTHING all day. It can be the smallest thing and he will find something to complain about and go on and on about it.... while Justin was someone who is very nonchalant and never complains and just wants to chill and party and fuck.

And, yes, Danny and Remy hooked up week one but that was not shown, as well as many of his fights.

He said he got into a few fights in the house and none were shown. Him and Justin got into a huge fight a few nights in the house and hated each other up until they both won that date (the one that Justin chose Jonathan for to upset Max), after that they were like best friends. He also got into it MANY TIMES with Jonathan but none were shown, and he threw many tantrums to Production.

by Anonymousreply 403August 21, 2019 12:23 AM

omg R402 and R403 you're making too much sense! You better stop or the Max stan, or maybe it's Max himself, will come after you!

if what Remy said is true then shame on production. Not sure why they wouldn't have wanted to show Max fighting with others

by Anonymousreply 404August 21, 2019 2:10 AM

So there have been only 2 same sex hookups on a show that is supposed to be highlighting sexual fluidity? Seems the flow only goes towards hetero...

by Anonymousreply 405August 21, 2019 2:17 AM

r405 sounds like the queer MO. Says they're just as apart of the community and like you but quickly cozys up to the opposite sex (not gender).

by Anonymousreply 406August 21, 2019 5:09 AM

R405 Nah, plenty of lesbian hookups yet only ONE male on male hookup. It fucking sucks.

by Anonymousreply 407August 21, 2019 12:16 PM

R402 R403 Chill. I get it, you hate Max.

by Anonymousreply 408August 21, 2019 12:18 PM

BRandon is hot because he is so masculine and mainstream. And his bod

by Anonymousreply 409August 21, 2019 5:29 PM

Quoth a DL poster of yore, "I hear 'sexually -fluid', I assume they're into piss."

by Anonymousreply 410August 21, 2019 5:38 PM

R408 relax, Max, the whole show is not about you. It's an ensemble cast

by Anonymousreply 411August 21, 2019 7:01 PM

-402 "nothing to do with homophobia"

How convenient...

by Anonymousreply 412August 21, 2019 8:31 PM

Sounds like a typical straight porn - girl on girl action is fine because it turns straight men on but guy on guy is still taboo. It would have been more interesting to include a few actual gay men and lesbians, either secretly or or not, to balance out this entirely predictable issue but that would involve confronting the elephant in the room - internalized homophobia, especially among men. Did any of these guys (besides Remy) have a history of dating men before the show?

by Anonymousreply 413August 21, 2019 8:42 PM

well I really can't imagine Jonathan getting with a woman in real life

did he even flirt with any of the girls in this cast? If he did I don't' think the producers showed it

by Anonymousreply 414August 21, 2019 10:47 PM

Remy spills even more tea.

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by Anonymousreply 415August 22, 2019 7:29 AM

R409 He is too short.

by Anonymousreply 416August 22, 2019 7:30 AM

R416, not for me. I’m not effeminate nor submissive

by Anonymousreply 417August 22, 2019 2:47 PM

R417 Brandon is even shorter than Max and Max is really short, just saying.

by Anonymousreply 418August 22, 2019 4:04 PM

This is everything.

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by Anonymousreply 419August 22, 2019 4:06 PM

And I oop.

[Quote]I’m saying him and I had people we both slept with before the show lmao

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by Anonymousreply 420August 22, 2019 4:09 PM

so Remy and Max have more than one person they've both slept with prior to the show.

eew lol

so who are the 2 people Remy isn't friends with? Max and Jonathan? He wasn't really shown speaking to either during the show so far except for the time he called Jonathan out

by Anonymousreply 421August 22, 2019 5:13 PM

Why does anyone believe that stunt queen Remy? He just shit stirring - that is his entire m.o.

by Anonymousreply 422August 23, 2019 4:17 AM

Does he mean he fucked them prior to casting? How would he have met them? Are they all from NYC?

by Anonymousreply 423August 23, 2019 4:19 AM

Max and Justin went live yesterday.

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by Anonymousreply 424August 23, 2019 5:38 AM

r419 Mike is one of the most annoying people ever

by Anonymousreply 425August 23, 2019 11:53 AM

r423 no, Remy is the only one FROM NYC. Anyone else there is a transplant. Learn to use the correct terms.

Max is from PA and lives in LA, Justin is from LA and lives in NYC now, but plans to move back within the next few years. He moved to NYC for a change of pace and to experience it and says LA and NYC are complete opposites in many ways, nothing alike, but he loves both.

I personally never understood people that say LA and NYC are the West/East coast equivalent cities. They aren't alike and tend to attract very different types of people, and the Natives are nothing alike.

by Anonymousreply 426August 23, 2019 12:16 PM

Sorry, meant Max is from Ohio

by Anonymousreply 427August 23, 2019 12:31 PM

Just read this on YouTube and I think this poster NAILED IT. Max was not comfortable during the matchmaking process and it affected who he was paired with. Maybe the matchmakers aren't homophobic, they just realized Max wouldn't be comfortable in a same sex relationship. That was until he met Justin and it changed everything.

[Quote]As much as I want them to be a PM I don't think they're since Max was not comfortable with his sexuality yet when he did the whole Matchmaking process and I think Max's words at the end hint at that "However I will say though... maybe during the casting process I might not have known what I needed just because I was not living... I had never experienced that, what I really did need". The old Max who was not comfortable with his sexuality yet would probably be paired up with a girl, probably Amber since they're BFFs now but the new Max that Justin brought out of his shell would have definitely been paired up with him.

by Anonymousreply 428August 23, 2019 5:47 PM

LOL

[Quote]Y’all don’t listen to this, my diet consists of mostly cake eating 🍑 and I’m doing aight. 🤪

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by Anonymousreply 429August 24, 2019 7:08 PM

-r246 My point was how would they have ever have met in order to have had sex prior to casting if they weren't from the same city - is Remy now claiming to have slept with literally ever man (gay bi or even straight) in the country now? It doesn't make any sense...

by Anonymousreply 430August 25, 2019 1:31 AM

well Remy is a self-admitted whore. He even cried about it on this week's episode about why Paige was rejecting him. I'm sure he'shad sex with multiple people from multiple cities. Also, living in NYC it's possible that some of Max's sexual partners traveled there and they hooked up. Maybe Max has had sex with whores who get around too

by Anonymousreply 431August 25, 2019 1:54 AM

The people Max and Remy shared is probably a woman.

by Anonymousreply 432August 25, 2019 1:57 AM

Sure Jan - the odds of him sleeping with some random woman from another city are even less believable than a random guy. But don't let reality get in the way of the fake drama that ya'll seem to love....

by Anonymousreply 433August 25, 2019 2:08 AM

You do realize that the odds of that involve hundreds of thousands if not millions of potential people - even if they were both from NYC, it is virtually impossible. These aren't some small elite cliques like the fire island A gays or even the circuit party set...

by Anonymousreply 434August 25, 2019 2:13 AM

If this is the first time Remy has ever been shot down, then he must have really set his bar low - it isn't like he is some wealthy, stunning adonis. And what woman would want a man who claims to have slept with thousands of other men - as if he is going to suddenly going to become a monogamous for a woman? That is one of the reasons why this show is so absurd - or at least his casting on it. He just isn't believable when it comes to a relationship with a woman but maybe he has been secretly praying to jeebus...

by Anonymousreply 435August 25, 2019 2:20 AM

Kari unfollowed Max. Wonder what their Twitter beef is about.

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by Anonymousreply 436August 27, 2019 4:28 AM

annoying we have to wait an extra week thanks to the MTV Music Awards.

by Anonymousreply 437August 27, 2019 4:30 AM

This kiss is hot.

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by Anonymousreply 438August 27, 2019 6:53 AM

Is Kari a he/she or it?

by Anonymousreply 439August 27, 2019 8:20 PM

Remy's Twitter bio:

✨Remy Duran✨ @Remdelarem 🇲🇽 🇳🇱 ✡️ born & raised in 🍎🗽! On some MTV show right now called @areuthe1 but the gay version email: RemyADuran@gmail.com

"gay version" is a very telling phrase.

There were several gay guys on twitter who said they were scouted by either MTV or others to apply but only on the condition they obfuscate on being gay and make some pretense of fluidity/bisexuality. So much of this just seems manufactured but the overriding imperative seems to be anything but gay....a kind of "woke homophobia"

by Anonymousreply 440August 27, 2019 8:33 PM

R439 She's a woman.

by Anonymousreply 441August 28, 2019 8:26 AM

Paige is all of us 😂

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by Anonymousreply 442August 28, 2019 8:27 AM

The QT rhetoric of fluidity has taken over LGB. I saw it coming due to gay porn and what they show to gay audiences.

by Anonymousreply 443August 28, 2019 1:30 PM

R443 Have you watched the show? Even though I agree with you that gay erasure is a problem and that sexual fluidity has taken over, at least give the show a chance. There's a gay couple and they're cute.

by Anonymousreply 444August 28, 2019 2:22 PM

R381 I think you will get your wish. I'm rooting for Max and Justin, don't get me wrong. I'm also realistic though and Max has been hinting a lot at them not being a PM. In a recent podcast he said that he wish things were different during the casting process, which makes me think he told the matchmakers that he would not be comfortable in a same sex relationship, then of course he met Justin and things changed. My gut feeling tells me they matched Max with a woman. I think the matchmakers were full of shit this season though, the bi thing threw them off. Jasmine and Nour? Danny and Kai? Yeah, makes total sense! LOOOOL.

by Anonymousreply 445August 28, 2019 5:58 PM

R381 There is no way in hell Justin and Max are a perfect match. They won't win this season. Max and Justin not being a PM means they don't have enough time to figure out the missing matches. Also, none of them actually act like they have money, another sign they didn't win. Last but not least there's this tweet... they might have had something post AYTO, but it's doubtful they do anymore. They haven't tweeted about each other or referred to each other in like weeks. Then there's this tweet:

[Quote]Guess it’s official, sad girl autumn is hitting hard

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by Anonymousreply 446August 28, 2019 6:05 PM

Max and Justin broke up, notice the past tense "was". I'm shocked! 😂

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by Anonymousreply 447August 30, 2019 5:37 AM

Max and Justin broke up, notice the past tense "was". I'm shocked! 😂

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by Anonymousreply 448August 30, 2019 5:37 AM

Wow... Max is petty af on his Twitter. Not a good look. Y'all need to read his tweets. Total shitfest

by Anonymousreply 449August 30, 2019 7:07 AM

I'm cackling😂

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by Anonymousreply 450August 30, 2019 7:12 AM

I'm cackling😂

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by Anonymousreply 451August 30, 2019 7:12 AM

Justin will always be a greedy whore, seems that he can't commit to one person.

by Anonymousreply 452August 30, 2019 10:59 AM

R452 True. People warned Max this would happen. I don't get why Justin would sign up for a show about finding the one though, if he's not ready to commit. Same goes for Kai. He clearly came on the show just to fuck people.

by Anonymousreply 453August 30, 2019 11:06 AM

r453 For popularity.

by Anonymousreply 454August 30, 2019 11:09 AM

I think Brandon is actually just gay, that's why he never kissed Aasha. Looks like MTV is forcing other people to identify as sexually fluid

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by Anonymousreply 455August 31, 2019 4:10 AM

MTV pairing him up with a woman is shady AF

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by Anonymousreply 456August 31, 2019 4:13 AM

I love Justin but yeah he's the best looking man and he's not even a 7, they really let down with the male casting, or maybe not enough hot gay men were willing to participate ? Honestly dont know.

by Anonymousreply 457August 31, 2019 4:34 AM

r456 Wow - that was barely a few years ago and he was emphatically gay. Surprised no one caught that...Did he mention his coming out story on the show?

by Anonymousreply 458August 31, 2019 8:40 AM

r458 He got very little airtime, so no, unless I missed it

by Anonymousreply 459August 31, 2019 11:42 AM

Does Kai wear shirts?

by Anonymousreply 460September 1, 2019 2:20 AM

are there any more gay reality shows on the near horizon? Obviously MTV won't do another sexually fluid cast again on this show given the low ratings

by Anonymousreply 461September 1, 2019 2:37 AM

Is Finding Prince Charming 2 ever gonna air? I remember them casting for Season 2 and even had voting polls up

by Anonymousreply 462September 1, 2019 2:53 AM

R462 i'd assume not since that was a couple years back. It must have gotten scrapped. That damn season 1 escort bachelor literally fucked it up for the show's future

by Anonymousreply 463September 1, 2019 3:02 AM

Someone at Outsports noticed - a recent article didn't specifically call him out but it came across as very snarky to me.

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by Anonymousreply 464September 1, 2019 10:32 PM

How many episodes will this season have? Last season was 17 including the reunion...

by Anonymousreply 465September 1, 2019 10:33 PM

Gotta have that drama to end up on Ex on the Beach, then eventually The Challenge

by Anonymousreply 466September 2, 2019 9:20 PM

hahahaha YES Max and Justin aren't a match! I knew it all along.

Max and his clingy ways can stop now fuck him. What a complainer and whiner Debbie downer

by Anonymousreply 467September 3, 2019 6:00 AM

I dont like them together but that means now they'll end up with women which is even worse. Unless Justin ends up with Remy.

by Anonymousreply 468September 3, 2019 6:06 AM

I hope Max and Remy are a match. That would be fucking hilarious.

I hope Amber and Kiley are a match

that would leave Justin and kari though

by Anonymousreply 469September 3, 2019 6:48 AM

LMFAO Max and Justin going at it a bit on twitter. Max is fucking insufferable.

Justin tweeted this

[quote]I mean doesn’t it suck to try to get to know your PM and they can’t stop talking about someone else? I didn’t wanna do that to anyone in that house. No one deserves that. #AYTO

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by Anonymousreply 470September 3, 2019 6:54 AM

so Max had to reply

[quote] Hahahahaha she brought it up the first date !! But with the match up the night before we are working off 12 hours !! So yea something that important to me would be brought up... I came up on your date too, oops

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by Anonymousreply 471September 3, 2019 6:55 AM

to which Justin replied

[quote] It’s cool dude Amber deserved more than you gave her, you know that, the house knew that and the world knows that #AYTO

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by Anonymousreply 472September 3, 2019 6:56 AM

and Max again

[quote]It’s cool dude Max deserved more than you have him, you know that, the house knew that and the world knows that.

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by Anonymousreply 473September 3, 2019 6:57 AM

Honestly this is fucking embarrassing, pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 474September 3, 2019 6:58 AM

"I realized that I'm attracted to boys, guys, men - and I'm not attracted to girls at all"

So much for diversity. They now allow gay stuff on TV as long as it's actually bisexual! They're doing so much for this community, having gays go back to pretend to be into the opposite sex... So that's what "fluid" means, after all.

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by Anonymousreply 475September 3, 2019 11:18 AM

do did any men match together? of course not...

by Anonymousreply 476September 3, 2019 2:41 PM

R476 That's why I don't take this show seriously. The matchmakers are obviously bigots, not only that but they're terrible at their job. Look at the perfect matches so far. Jasmine and Nour? LOL. Danny and Kai? Double LOL.

by Anonymousreply 477September 8, 2019 9:36 AM

And I oop.

[Quote]I had sex with @Remdelarem the first night

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by Anonymousreply 478September 8, 2019 9:37 AM

R467 You're insane. You hate on Max when it turns out your boy Justin is nothing but a fuckboy. He literally slept with someone 2 minutes after breaking up with Max. What is he even doing on a show about "finding the one" if all he wants to do is fuck around? At least Max takes it seriously.

by Anonymousreply 479September 8, 2019 9:40 AM

Justin is only here for fame, which he got by being involved with Max, milked every drop of their relationship and then proceeds to treat Max like shit when it ended. Horrible.

by Anonymousreply 480September 8, 2019 10:00 AM

R479 who's saying Justin is amazing? All that's clear is he's much more attractive than Max and that their personalities don't match. Justin is a whore but this show is about whoredom. They're trying to the find their match so you've got to test out multiple people. Max shouldn't have been on this show if he only wanted to fixate on 1 person the whole time. He's pathetic

by Anonymousreply 481September 8, 2019 5:53 PM

r481 He said it was his first time to fall in love like that and actually planned to be a fuckboy like Kai. Justin treating him like shit for being rightfully hurt is evil. And so does people like you who tries to invalidate his feelings

by Anonymousreply 482September 9, 2019 2:22 PM

R482 oh please. He "fell in love on a tv show"? That was all lust. Even with all the editing out of fights they had, anyone could see they would never have lasted. Max just like Jonathan went for Justin and Brandon because they were the 2 hottest guys in the house by far. Justin wasn't into Jonathan at all physically which is why it went nowhere. He was open to Max but Max was acting like they were soulmates. They were in the house for what-a month? That's not love, that's infatuation.

by Anonymousreply 483September 9, 2019 5:27 PM

r478 who had sex with remy? danny? im confused

by Anonymousreply 484September 9, 2019 6:45 PM

LAME ENDING. At least 1/3 of the couples aren't believable

and no reunion that sucks. I wanted to see how many of the "couples" lasted and the bitch fights that happened after. I wanted to see Max and Justin go at it, Jonathan tell us if he really is actually attracted to Basit, Remy with a woman seems laughable, if Jasmin and Nour have beaten each other up yet.

but I guess the low ratings meant the MTV execs thought it wasn't worth it

by Anonymousreply 485September 10, 2019 7:15 AM

hmm someone posted on twitter that Thursday at 10 on Afterbuzz tv (an online tv channel) there will be a reunion. Who knows if that's true. They do post stuff to their youtube page though. I'll take it

hopefully it will happen

by Anonymousreply 486September 10, 2019 7:23 AM

R484 Yes, Danny. He had sex with Remy the first night.

by Anonymousreply 487September 10, 2019 7:32 AM

Danny is a bottom ?

by Anonymousreply 488September 10, 2019 7:43 AM

So Remy matched with the girl?

by Anonymousreply 489September 10, 2019 12:03 PM

What a bunch of attention hungry sluts.

by Anonymousreply 490September 10, 2019 12:33 PM

So Remy is giving up dick for true love with a woman as god intended?

by Anonymousreply 491September 10, 2019 2:53 PM

who has already broken up?

by Anonymousreply 492September 11, 2019 12:41 AM

What happened to Brandon the ex-gay football player? Did the nerdy guy ever try dick?

by Anonymousreply 493September 11, 2019 1:59 AM

I would assume none of these couples will be monogamous so Remy can still whore around - I'm sure the girl will tire of that soon...

by Anonymousreply 494September 11, 2019 2:02 AM

Of course most of the pairings are hetero

by Anonymousreply 495September 11, 2019 3:04 AM

Looks like Remy is implying that Justin really did have a boyfriend going into the show. What a fame whore

by Anonymousreply 496September 11, 2019 5:24 AM

I can't imagine any of these couples are still together.

by Anonymousreply 497September 11, 2019 5:31 AM

R491 My guess is that they have an open relationship. I've seen Insta stories of Remy at gay bars partying with other instagays. There's no way in hell he's monogamous. Then again, if it works for them who am I to judge.

by Anonymousreply 498September 11, 2019 6:53 AM

R496 Wonder what this thread's recident Justin stan has to say about that? He defends Justin all the time. Yet he can't answer why someone who already had a boyfriend would enter a dating show about finding the one. Say what you want about Max, at least he was true to himself and his feelings, which is more than can be said about Justin.

by Anonymousreply 499September 11, 2019 6:55 AM

R495 That's why I don't take this show seriously. It's clear that the matchmakers are bigots. Most of the couples confirm that, especially when they paired out GAY Brandon with Aasha. Fucked up if you ask me.

by Anonymousreply 500September 11, 2019 6:57 AM

Please, None of these people want a relationship they want attention and money, that's all.

by Anonymousreply 501September 11, 2019 9:39 AM

Max admitted on his live that Justin had a boyfriend the entire time.

by Anonymousreply 502September 11, 2019 1:55 PM

Any photos ? I wanna see how Justin's boyfriend looks like.

by Anonymousreply 503September 11, 2019 2:23 PM

Justin wanted Max back? The irony.

[Quote]so what im hearing is you played with karis feelings till justin wanted u back and then spent the last nights with him instead of her after kissing her after the matchup ceremony? it makes no cents luv!

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by Anonymousreply 504September 11, 2019 2:23 PM

r500 and most of QT/TRA twitter was cheering on the show and how "love wins" disgusting

by Anonymousreply 505September 11, 2019 2:27 PM

They need to do another one with only gay/bi men, but I doubt many people will watch. Or maybe they will, these fraus love men dating each other who knows.

by Anonymousreply 506September 11, 2019 2:30 PM

The only one I'd do is the one in the back row, middle showing the nips and wearing black trunks.

All of the other guys look insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 507September 11, 2019 2:43 PM

R501 preach! Just because they're pansexual doesn't mean they aren't also attentionwhores who loved the thought of being on tv

Justin is a whore. No one is defending that but Max is insufferable too

by Anonymousreply 508September 11, 2019 5:55 PM

Does Paige live in NYC? If not, when is Remy moving to be with his true love? All those hundreds of men are now washed away with the promise of a heterosexual relationship....

by Anonymousreply 509September 11, 2019 7:13 PM

Remy sure knows how to promote himself...His real instagram is basically a private account with all the guys he fucked...

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by Anonymousreply 510September 11, 2019 7:15 PM

If they are truly bisexual and not gay (like Brandon) then it would make sense for them to settle down in a hetero relationship, you know that's what those bisexuals do.

by Anonymousreply 511September 11, 2019 7:17 PM

I read all 20 answers and there were lots of words but nothing real - just how great queer is...

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by Anonymousreply 512September 11, 2019 7:17 PM

r511 But Remy is primarily gay and I doubt there were many women compared to men on his over 900 fuck list...

by Anonymousreply 513September 11, 2019 7:19 PM

What happened to Brandon? Wasnt he paired up with some girl?

by Anonymousreply 514September 11, 2019 7:21 PM

How many of the cast ended up in same sex pairings?

by Anonymousreply 515September 11, 2019 7:23 PM

r515 2 out of 8. Both female-female matches.

4 matches are hetero (and they put every guy who doesn't crossdress in opposite sex pairings)

2 matches are male-"non-binary" match., no male-male match technically

by Anonymousreply 516September 13, 2019 9:52 AM

Holy fck, female fans of reality tv shows are the most toxic ever and I only have noticed this, I thought it only happened on Survivor but it turns out they're literally everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 517September 13, 2019 11:51 AM

Remy said Max is mostly into guys, which is why he wasn't that into Kari when she threw herself at him.

by Anonymousreply 518September 13, 2019 3:20 PM

Well Remy should know - he made the same calculations to remake himself and his sexuality as more fluid than he is. He knew the odds were heavily against a same sex male match so he cooked up this story about his sudden attraction to women - and know one believes that they are still (if they ever were) dating...But he knows how to play the game and he constantly stirs shit on twitter, which is all you need these days...

by Anonymousreply 519September 14, 2019 12:16 AM

I don't think many people were jumping at the chance to be on the show. The producers were probably willing to cast any gay man who was willing to lie about being fluid.

by Anonymousreply 520September 16, 2019 2:21 AM

r516 so they pair the gay dudes (some are bi but lets be honest they like guys more) with women and then of the actual gay male pairings, they decide to write off as this queer, non-binary garbage? I don't know about you but that is very problematic.

by Anonymousreply 521September 16, 2019 2:52 AM

I can see Justin and Max being cast on opposing teams of MTV's The Challenge next season lol

by Anonymousreply 522September 16, 2019 2:55 AM

Majority of reality tv is designed for fraus, no surprising.

by Anonymousreply 523September 16, 2019 2:56 AM

Max is not gay. Justin was the first guy Max was ever with. What Remy meant to say was that after being with Justin, Max now wants to explore dating men more and women less, as hes dated women his whole life. He wants to explore that side more.

Brandon, Justin and Max himself all spoke about this.

Justin is still the only man Max has been with.

by Anonymousreply 524September 16, 2019 3:00 AM

Jax are back together. Justin is currently visiting Max in LA.

by Anonymousreply 525October 9, 2019 3:52 PM

Is Remy still pretending to be dating that girl?

by Anonymousreply 526October 9, 2019 10:55 PM

R526 Yes.

by Anonymousreply 527October 10, 2019 5:02 AM

Sexual fluidity is so 2016.

by Anonymousreply 528October 10, 2019 10:13 PM

r527 They don't even live in the same city do they?

by Anonymousreply 529October 11, 2019 2:02 AM
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