Trump might win again.

Can we get some smarter trolls, please? Ours are just too stupid for words.

OP = BernBot who was glad to throw his vote in 2016. Damn the Supreme Court. And he will do it again.

- Hillary Clinton: We Our Living Through a Full-Fledged Crisis in America

[quote]She should go back into the woods nobody likes her

[quote][bold]Hillary is just as corrupt as Trump, the only difference is she's better at hiding while Trump is dumb so we know all his business.[/bold]

[quote]Stolen my ass, [bold]if she had not accepted millions of dollars giving speeches to Wall Street banks that fucked our economy in 2008 and taking money from Saudi Arabia and other dictators through the Clinton Foundation today she would be president. The only person to blame for losing the 2016 election to a chimpanzee is her corrupt self. [/bold]

[quote][bold]We warned in primaries but nobody listen, now you deal with Trump and his crooked family of thieves.[/bold]

[quote]She is corrupt, the fact that other politicians (men or women) are also corrupt doesnt make her any less corrupt. Her Clinton Foundation is a cesspool of corruption, [bold]she and Obama both sold us out [/bold]and they are both responsible for the massive backlash that got us Trump so stop shilling for this woman, not everyone that criticizes her is sexist, by calling us that you're just being another unhinged SJW.

-- European DLers

[quote][bold]How do you explain this love/hate relationship with immigrants ? I see the posts/comments/protests against immigrants but then turn around and see euro men (straight and gay) and women marrying/fucking middle easterns and latinos, [/bold]my aunt lives in Italy and she says euro men love latinas and I see how white gays in europe worship middle eastern men so how does it work ?

[quote]I only made the comments about Hillary, I stand by it, [bold]I support Bernie all the way you centrist troll[/bold]

[quote]I dont have a question, just curious about it, I'm latino so I was thinking I might have some fun in europe if it's true.

[quote]Europeans are very white, do they perceive latinos/middle eastern (people with that look in general) like exotic, hot, different or they ignore you because you're not fair/white like the rest. I really dont know how to put in better words.

^^throw his vote AWAY

R2 Are you prepared for trump's second term ?

It's a real question, you guys thought hillary was the perfect candidate yet she lost.

Nobody thought that Hillary was "the perfect candidate," o obvious troll. And the premise of your "real question" is based on ludicrously false, not to mention more than a little stupid, reasoning:

[quote]Because the way the dem primary is going there's a real good chance that trump will win again.

There's nothing wrong with "the way dem [sic] primary is going," certainly nothing that would inform any speculation about the 2020 election.

By "the way the dem primary is going," our little troll means "as Bernie fades into utter obscurity." Too bad, bir Bernie and his Bernbots.

I'm a socialist I dont want trump to win but I see there's a real possibility he might, specially when most left leaning people are living in a bubble far removed from working class people who are struggling daily.

See r7 the very fact you label me a troll just because I dare to have a different opinion doesnt bode well for this country.

What does that even mean, r8?

He's going to win because dems learned nothing from 2016.

What should dems have learned from 2016?

R9, I'm paying you a compliment by calling you a troll. Because the alternative is that you really are genuinely stupid.

But hey, if you want "stupid" instead of "troll," I'm fine with that.

Oh, and nothing I've written has anything to do with anything "boding" for this country. Your "different opinion" isn't backed up by any actual logic, reason, or data, so you're getting exactly the reaction you have earned, and likely wanted.

You sure of that Op?

They have learned that idiots like R11 are stuck in 2016, R12, and that they ignore the results of 2018.

If Bernie doesnt win then Joe Biden will and with his history of sexual misconduct, terrible track record with corruption (Hillary 2.0) it's almost sure trump will win.

r2 doesn't like to hear uncomfortable truths.

Except, R16, there is no "track record of corruption" and no "history of sexual misconduct." Both of those, by the way, actually do apply to one candidate: Donald Trump.

You think 100,000 voters in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania haven't switched from Trump to "any fucking dem they put up"? You'd be wrong.

if his bs policies start hurting his supporters wallets, then no, money make the world go round.

He will stroke out before next summer

I remember when the New York Times had the chances of Hillary winning at 91%, good times when we thought no way in hell America would elect trump.

If you think 2020 is on lock, just remember 2016.

Of course 2020 is not a lock. For either side.

The point is Bernie is not a better candidate for the Dems no matter how much OP clenches his teeth and wishes his were.

You're all forgetting that HRC actually won the popular vote...i.e. more people voted for her than Trump. If it weren't for the fucked-up electoral college, she'd be president right now. Is she perfect? No. But she has a brain and knows how to use it.

Dump is done

I'm a progressive and I actually like Joe Biden, he got that old school vibe I like, I just wish his policies were better for working class people.

The answer to the OP's question is that yes, of course, Trump [italic]could[/italic] win again. He's got his base firmly behind him and they won't budget for anything less than a Trump serial killer shooting spree on Main street. And maybe not even then. But his base isn't enough to elect him and most polls show a solid 50+% saying they do not want him to win a second term.

As for the Democratic primary, it's months away from being able to draw any conclusions about 2020. We don't know which candidates will survive, which candidates will be able to build a winning coalition, which issues will resonate with the primary voters and the voters in the general election.

And in the election itself, there are still more unknowns: Will we be at war? Will we suffer another major terrorist attack? Will the economy head south, finally giving us that overdue recession and stock market correction? Will Trump continue to be Trump, with scandal after scandal, stupidity after stupidity?

Oh, wait ... we do know that one. In short, the OP is a troll and a rather lame one, not that anyone needed me to point that out.

His fiasco of a presidency will make people more conservative, so I predict a safe choice, an old white man with 40 years of political experience. Kamala Harris and the gay candidate is out, so either Biden or Sanders.

I like virtually any nominee of the Democratic Party except maybe Bernie--but we all gotta vote against Trump no matter who it is. That said, I think it will be Biden with a woman VP, probably Harris. If I could pick any of them it would be Warren and Pete B.

I would say that there is a 60% chance at this moment that Trump will win again in 2020. HOWEVER, if by the glorious grace of god, SOMETHING, ANYTHING of any criminal weight can finally be exposed in the next year, we will be free of him. If not, I say the chances are that he will win a second term.

His voters are true morons and he truly could shoot someone in the street, and these numbnuts would back this guy up.

We are too limited in our perceptions as gay men and we have not even considered that half of the world are basically racist, homophobic , xenophobic morons who actually are dumb enough to vote against themselves!!! As the new tax laws that fucked EVERY ONE of them should attest to. You would THINK that would turn his moronic base against him right?? It won't.

Nutbag bernie is nobody’s safe choice and Dump’s ignorant opioid zombies who are eager to support him after shooting someone on 5th Ave aren’t enough to carry the day this time

r30: Where do you get the 60% chance stat from? Just curious. He polls at 40% of eligible voters and even lower occasionally lately, and he will probably not win those 3 states that he won in 2016--MI, WI and PA--maybe Wisconsin but probably not the others. The only way he can win is voter suppression or voter machine hacking as far as I can see. You know something about that?

R31- I pray that you are right. I truly do not believe in anything in this country to "carry the day" to what is fair or right anymore.

Thanks for your concern, Yevgeny

R32- Have we not learned ANYTHING from 2016?? Fuck the "polls"... I do not trust this country or the noodle heads who live here.

I will never trust the Pre-polls or the media again after 2016.

I hope the guy who started this thread is right ! TRUMP 2020

Lol DL sensitive bitches downvoted me which means I hit s nerve.

Yeah, stupidity and obvious trolling does tend to do that, OP. It really doesn't go over well here.

Nah, you just too delicate flowers, kinda funny since most of you are old, can't handle different opinion.

Bigski Burgovich

Yes there are many gullible people out there who are still so uninformed they could vote for Trump. Plus he still has the Russians helping him out and his criminal behavior might help him in certain ways. God help us.

[quote] can't handle different opinion

What is this supposed opinion and what is the supposed evidence we can't handle it?

No, you really are just that stupid, R39, particularly in thinking that you could make anyone believe that you're not the blindingly obvious troll that you are.

He posted it in R16, R42. Read it and laugh:

[quote]If Bernie doesnt win then Joe Biden will and with his history of sexual misconduct, terrible track record with corruption (Hillary 2.0) it's almost sure trump will win.

That's it? I can handle that stupid, pointless, meaningless opinion.

r44 is that type of hubris and mockery from the left that rubs so many people the wrong way.

So much wrong rubbing

60 million voted for trump, I bet you'd rather call them all racist instead of addressing the issues they have.

Dump should try and address their issues first

what has trump accomplished except empty promises? where is the wall? hiding with waldo?

[quote]That's it? I can handle that stupid, pointless, meaningless opinion.

Yup. That was it. That was literally all he's got. And that's supposed to be the "opinion" that "hit a nerve." Seriously. How can you not laugh?

If, by some HORRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCE Trump were to win again in 2020, then my only consolation would be, is that even some of the world's most Vile, Evil, most Notorious Corrupt Dictators have seen an end to their reigns- even if it seemed like it took forever. Cruella de ville herself Imelda Marcos, who transformed herself and managed to get re-elected to the Fillipino Congress was FINALLY convicted for corruption, and jailed in her NINETIES. NAZI WAR CRIMINALS were hunted all the way to their Second Lives in Latin America and prosecuted for their crimes at the Hague. Pinochet the monster was made to leave eventually, and it seems that punishment carried on generationally in a way- was it not just last year one of his *daughter's* killed herself? My point being- we may not see these Monsters punished in the time frame WE would like, but justice comes to collect it's due sooner or later.

You really think the fact that he sucks off Putin and Kim, will make people vote for him? I don't think so.

R46, you're a troll. A rather obvious, and more than a little stupid, troll. You're getting exactly the reaction you wanted and that you earned. And your laughably stupid "opinion" that this will "rub so many people the wrong way" is as hilariously wrong as everything else you've posted in this thread.

Nobody cares when an obvious troll is spanked.

Will Dump fly over the trailer parks and drop care packages of opioids and McNuggets?

yall over reacting, trump is dumb and ridiculous, he is not the worst leader in history. He is destabilizing the current status quo that is all. TRUMP cant be worse than Hitler.

You're just repeating the same behavior from 2016 that got trump elected in the first place, I guess now someone will link a poll from somewhere to show how trump is going to lose.

[quote] [R44] is that type of hubris and mockery from the left that rubs so many people the wrong way.

Yeah, they really hate hubris and mockery....that's why they vote for Trump.

[quote] I bet you'd rather call them all racist instead of addressing the issues they have.

Economic insecurity? Yeah those "issues" have been debunked, bunky. They are racists.

So tell us, R57 / OP: have you been asleep for the past two years? It's not 2016 anymore and we have new data.

r58 thank you for proving my point.

Of course he's going to win. As long as there are hordes of immigrants crossing the southern border he will smoothly sail into his second term.

The hordes!

R60, you don't have a point, as you've made clear over and over and over again. 13 posts on this thread and not one that actually makes any kind of rational point.

Uh-huh, r61. That's what Republicans thought in 2018. Remember the "hordes" in the caravan? Remember the Republican Party going all in on fearmongering? How did that work out for them?

Will Mother Pence show her tits in the hollers to GOTV?

[quote] thank you for proving my point.

What would that be again? That Trump's supporters hate mockery and hubris or that they voted the way they did because they are racists?

Or that they won’t stand for scandal 🤣

You wont win 2020 by calling white people racist, that's exactly what trump wants.

[quote] You wont win 2020 by calling white people racist

Didn't. Called Trump voters racist. Do keep up.

R68 / OP: No Democratic candidate is going to be "calling white people racist." And here on a low-to-moderate traffic anonymous site, nobody gives a shit. Can't you at [italic]try[/italic] to come up with something? Anything? All of these posts, all of this effort, and you can't come up with [italic]anything[/italic]? That's just pathetic.

The only thing that I am afraid of is the rampant cheating (which is the only way that pretty much EVERY Rethug has won any election since Reagan - and that was a different nightmare all together). It's hard to fight cheaters and it's difficult to win against them. W did win the second time but only after throwing us into a fabricated war (whatever your belief is on that mess). Even that particular election seemed rigged when the exit polls were screaming Kerry. So what can we do? At the very least we all need to show up and vote. Sadly, the more liberal and more educated a group is - the less likely that group is to actually show up and vote for their own interests; I can never figure that one out. The crazy, conservative, evangelical ignorants do exactly as they are told - THEY VOTE EVERY TIME. So much needs to change, but we all need to at least do our part - if you are Democrat, for God's sake get to the polls!!!

Whatever, the only two people in the race to win is Bernie and Biden and I'd vote for either. The rest are just wasting their time.

Trump may win, but we can do our damndest to make sure he doesn't. Voters know the stakes are higher now. Henny Penny OP is saying nothing transgressive or intelligent.

TRUMP 2020

R74, you’re vile

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I would like for a Trump supporter to explain to me how you constantly manage to make him look like the victim, when everyone who associates with him has their reputation destroyed, loses everything, and often wind up in jail.

And another thing, when the fool decided to brutally attack McCain for a solid week, suddenly McCain was a villain. A villain most of his supporters voted for in 2012. Trumptards are so embroiled in propaganda and Qanon, they wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in the face. How do these idiots get thru life?

people like to hear what they want to hear

R72 - I agree with you, but think that Kamala (who I LOVE) or Mayor Pete (who I LOVE) should pair up with Biden as a running mate. Both are sharp as a Wusthof and would add a lot to the ticket. Bernie can fuck off, but if he is the nominee I will still vote him until the cows come home.

[quote]For the cunts and dumbfucks who called me a troll for a having a different opinion.

We called you a troll because your posts have been monumentally stupid and you didn't have any actual data to back up that opinion. I mean, seriously, this was your idea of a rational argument:

[quote]If Bernie doesnt win then Joe Biden will and with his history of sexual misconduct, terrible track record with corruption (Hillary 2.0) it's almost sure trump will win.

That was hilariously stupid.

Oh, and for the record, you still don't have any actual data. Those "economic models" are worthless. We hear this shit every four years and every four years there are multiple "models" predicting opposite outcomes. One of those "models" being touted today predicted that Trump would win 54.1% of the vote in 2016.

[quote]r2 doesn't like to hear uncomfortable truths.

We know who you are, dear. Left, my ass.

- AOC and Sanders

[quote]Imagine thinking the most milquetoast soc dem like Sanders and AOC are anything close to being actual Socialists... they're right in the center of where the Dem should be had they not been taken over by [bold]corporate scum like Pelosi, Hillary etc.[/bold]

- Dear European Friends. I would just like to apologise on behalf of the UK.

[quote][bold]f&f'd, OP I'd bet isn't even British[/bold]

[quote]OP is from brighton it seems, says a lot. Shame we can't hive off 'London/the south east' from the rest of the country and we can be rid of you cunts once and for all.

[quote]I see this thread hasn't gone down the way you had hoped OP. whomp whomp.

[quote]Even if you're pro remain I can't imagine anyone going out to bat for a faceless, corporate, organisation like the EU... Unless your pro remain politics are really just thinly disguised metropolitan classism.

[quote]What 'ideology' do you think I have exactly? [bold]I'm anti EU from the left[/bold] and pro Lexit.

[quote]Lol DL sensitive bitches downvoted me which means I hit s nerve.

[quote]Whatever, the only two people in the race to win is Bernie and Biden and[bold] I'd vote for either.[/bold] The rest are just wasting their time.

That's hard to believe.

- Predictions for 2019 Part 2

[quote][bold]Trump will win again because of you people and I'll laugh.[/bold]

r80 How does that crow taste ?

r82 you always going around quoting people's comment, including mine whenever I make a new post, your life must be really pathetic lol

I wouldn't know, R83, OP, since I haven't had to eat any in this entire thread, mostly because you haven't even been able to put up even a token fight. You've had your ass handed to you over and over again which, personally, I've enjoyed watching. It's like a train wreck happening in slow motion.

r85 Fight for what ? I just said trump might win again and you guys got all triggered, I'm chillin.

You are aware that we can read your comments, R86, right?

Just checking, since that obvious fact seems to have entirely escaped you.

There's a troll who follows me around quoting my comments as a Bernie supporter/ Hillary hater ( which I am ), apparently he thinks I'll change my mind by doing that or something Idk.

He's putting your remarks, and obvious trolling, in context, OP. It's not about you. If you don't like to be reminded of your prior comments, then perhaps you shouldn't have made them.

I just said again I'm a Bernie supporter ...

Uh-huh, and a rather obvious, not to mention genuinely stupid, troll, R90.

But I repeat myself.....

Okay, I'll stop playing with the idiot. It's not like anyone needs me (or anyone else) to point out that he is, well, an idiot. And a troll. Time to move on to something more of a challenge.

r92 Bye

Fucking Bernie trolls. Could be anyone, Putin, Xi, MbS, Rethugs, Bannon's gameboys, anyone.

It's not real. He's fading because he's done and he's not coming back in the polls. All the troublemakers want is to stir up old Bernie/Hillary arguments and try to drive people away from the polls.

If you let them win, you're a dumb cunt.