Is there such a thing as white Latinos/Hispanics?

No, they turn black when they are born in Mexico or Cuba.

Yes, there is. Actresses Joanna Garcia and Julie Gonzalo are white Hispanics.

Latinos are caucasian

Iberians are considered white but many can have this ethnically/racially ambiguous look to them.

yes, according to the individuals in my city, there are only black and not-black people.

Being Caucasian (white) has nothing to do with where you or your ancestors were born -- it's a physical condition, like freckles or curly hair.

Would this Brazilian boy be a white Latino?

No. Mexicans are NOT white. They are Mexican. Get it through your head!

I get that, R6, I guess I'm getting confused with the term POC, I've seen it applied to people who appear to be white. For instance the actor Raul Esperza. I know some of his fans consider him to be a POC.

Hello?

[bold]The US doesn't recognized them as a race[/bold], so they are consider white, even Mestizos, under US federal law.

The only exemptions when Latinos in the United States can op out from being considered white is if:

1) They have an official affiliation to a Native American group (which most of them don't, even if many of them could trace their lineage to the Southwestern United States like many Northern Mexicans).

2) They are mixed or are Pacific Islanders.

3) They are mixed with or are African-American.

If they are not officially affiliated to any of those groups, they must identify as white in the census or any other state or federal official process.

[quote] but what about those who trace their roots directly to Spain, (like many Cubans)

Most Latin American whites can trace their roots to Europe. However, being white doesn't imply that they are not mixed with Amerindian blood.

meztizo, mullato used to be easy ways to differentiate. then they stuck everyone under the same label to bolster numbers

[QUOTE]The US doesn't recognized them as a race, so they are consider white, even Mestizos, under US federal law.

Then why do we hear about white people “dying off” when these people should be inflating their numbers?

Spaniards are indeed white. They aren't that distinct from, say, their Portuguese neighbors, who everyone thinks are white.

the spaniard/portuguese ones would be 'white', the short/stocky brown ones would definitely not be 'white'

So a Spaniard shouldn’t select “Hispanic” on the census form? Who the hell is Hispanic, then?

[quote] their Portuguese neighbors, who [bold]everyone[/bold] thinks are white.

Everyone???

Spanish were a marginalized group in America. Up until the 1970s, border patrol would make sport out of detaining and kicking out Spanish-Americans into Mexico.

Whoever speaks Spanish and wants to be?

The problem is you are using American terms to define non-Americans on two different continents.

People from Spain consider themselves Spaniards (not Latino or Hispanic). Spaniards consider themselves European, ergo white.

Latinos and Hispanics refer to someone whose ancestry derives from Latin America. Some are white, some are not.

The problem is in Latin America racism and colorism is huge. Very few people in many countries of Latin America are actually white, but because of the bias towards whites everyone claims to be white.

So your answer is yes (but it depends really).

[quote]People from Spain consider themselves Spaniards (not Latino or Hispanic

Err...Spanish are considered Hispanics, everywhere you go.

Of course they will identify as white European, that's what they are...

People from Latin American are similar to people from the other part of the Americas; Some mix of Indigenous, European and African. There are just higher numbers of people of indigenous descent in places like Peru than still left in The USA. Many Spaniards also have Arabic ancestry because of Spain's history.

Can't we all just be people?

R23 The migrations of peoples is an interesting topic. People get stupid over value assignment based on these things, not acknowledging how much about human society has to do with being in certain places, with certain conditions at different times, so it doesn't have to be viewed strictly through a competitive or supremacist lens.

I'm always interested in hearing about entire peoples who just disappeared, culture an all and there's no explanation (like conquering, assimilation) to explain it.

And whatever the recipe is for JenCarlos Canela, I wish humanity could bake more of these:

Hispanic means related to Spain or a Spanish speaking country or territory.

I got a quiz for you all DL experts :

Is Equatorial Guinea considered a Hispanic Nation? Why or Why not?

They Speak Spanish and have a high rate of Afro-Spaniards in their nation.

No, R23. No, we can't.

Why does the white man carve us up into these little categories?

R28 = (Incognito White guy in hipster frames)

People do this to themselves. Everywhere. Sometimes, over silly things. It can be good or bad, like sports teams or warlike.

R28 You're claiming there is no such thing as tribes?

No, OP.

[QUOTE]You're claiming there is no such thing as tribes?

Hello! It’s 2019, man. We’re supposed to be beyond that now, man.

[quote] Would they be considered white or no?

Italians are not even white, so no.

Italians fought so hard to be accepted into Camp White. Don’t take it away their hard-earned treasure.

They are white.

OP, do you consider this brilliantly talented, irresistibly handsome, and overall adorable Texan boy white?

More importantly, would you consider buying his music now available on Itunes and Amazon Music?

I've been to Mexico 5 times and traveled to a few different places. While the average Mexican is probably a mix of indigenous and Caucasian (European), aka Mestizo--you do see many people who obviously do not have indigenous ancestry and look exactly like the average Caucasian from anyplace--North America or Europe say--can be blonde with fair skin and blue eyes, but are Mexican going back many generations maybe. You also see people who are purely indigenous (in Oaxaca for example there are a number of different local indigenous groups) and those people are not Mestizo There are a lot of immigrants in Mexico, esp. Mexico City, whose origins are European and not Spanish. There might even be many such people in the US--you just don't know because they don't look "Mexican." Also, many of them stay in Mexico because often they are more middle class and don't have the economic need to go to the US.

Latino is an American term for people born in Mexico, Central America or South America. I think most of the people born in Argentina, for example, are Caucasian of European ancestry, also Uruguay. The term Latino has nothing to do with race, just as the term Mexican has nothing to do with race, obviously, just country of birth or citizenship.

There was a study done a while back on how Hispanic people define themselves. Many defined themselves by country of origin, Puerto Rican, Cuban, American, Mexican-American, Peruvian, etc. Some defined themselves as Hispanic, Latino/Latina, Latin, white, or brown. It's a very diverse group. My best friend from childhood, born in America, had Spanish born parents. He had blue eyes, fair skin, and dark hair. Very good looking. Thinks of himself as white American of European descent.

Many Mexicans are mixed race, Spanish and native, others are 100% Spanish (many elite and wealthy landowners on whose land live illiterate "peasants"), German, or other ethnicity just like in the US. Many people from Mexico fleeing to the US come from families without education or land who come here for a better life. Understandable IMO.

I have a friend whose parents were from Mexico. Mother was 100% Spanish and wealthy, father was Spanish/Indian mix. Her family had a fit when they married, thought of him as beneath her even though he became a successful university professor. He said once a friend saw him in the yard and assumed he was the gardener.

I also have a beautiful niece-in-law who's family is from Mexico, half German, half Mexican. She has an exotic look, creamy white skin, dark hair.

I spent time in Spain in the past. Many Spaniards looked like white Europeans. Western Hemisphere Hispanics are browner due to mixed races.

Of course, times change, and if the study I read about was done today the results might be different.

[quote] Meanwhile liberals, men and woman, support and defend the most anti woman group of them all: MUSLIMS

Troll narrative. There is a big difference between defending Muslim individuals against fascist xenophobes trying to harm them, and defending Islam as a religion.

Hmm. In the posting, somehow the site switched threads. I didn't even have this thread open in another tab, but it placed my reply here.

There are white Latinos. Yes.

But not all are. And mestizos 100% ARENT but in the USA they are considered white to boost the white numbers.

Has no one here ever seen pictures of Evita? If she isn't considered white, I don't know who would be.

Many Brazilians think they are white...then the visit the US and are treated like Mexicans. They hate it the comparison but don’t see the hypocrisy in how they treat darker skinned Brazilians

You can’t base what people from other countries count as white either. I’ve been to Colombia and there some of the “whites” weren’t white at all. They were clearly mixed race but cause they are light skinned with not as nappy hair they are “white”.

Let’s check the casta paintings.

People like Enrique Iglesias are “white” when in reality he’s more Middle Eastern than white.

A Hispanic is someone that comes from a country that speaks Spanish. The term is mostly used by the Americas. It has to do with Language.

A Latino is someone who is from or a descendant of someone from Latin America. Thus a Brazilian is a Latino but not Hispanic. People from Spain are considered Hispanic but not Latinos.

Why can't we understand this?

It is a stupid argument, because it evolves over time, when the Irish first came to the US they weren't considered white. Then you have people like Danny Thomas, who was considered white, but would now be considered not white but Middle Eastern, even though I consider many Middle Eastern people to be white.

[quote]Then why do we hear about white people “dying off” when these people should be inflating their numbers?

They are inflating their numbers already. When you hear the government say Latinos made only 8% of the national vote in 2016, many people noted that those assessments are flawed since the census doesn’t recognize Latinos as a race, most of them are lumped with whites.

The true percentage of the Latino vote was probably around 12-13%

Why does no one ever ask if there are Black Latinos? (Yes, there are.) What is this obsession with us whites? We shit everyday just like everyone else, and believe me, it stinks just like everyone else's too.

R50 , whites are the ones asking these questions! Ask yourself why you keep asking them.

R47, we could understand if we wanted to. You and I do -- those who don't are willfully ignorant. Racism is one reason for that, maybe the main one.

R51 I've never asked them. So what's your point, besides the one on the top of your head?

Besides r51, how the hell do you know whites are asking? This place is anonymous.

[quote][R51] I've never asked them. So what's your point,

There is no point to make, that's why you should ask yourself why whites are so interested in the topic.

Ask yourself what makes you think we are, since I'm the only one in the thread to admit being white.

R32 LOL, are you R28? I was responding to R28, who thinks that only white humans pull this and not humans all around the world and through-out time.