Should I give up the DC shows on The CW next season?

Arrow is ending next season OP so one less show you to watch.

No you should keep watching. If you feel there is too much good tv to handle, you're just going to have to find time to watch it all.

I can never give them up. Fun plus hot men in spandex. And Batwoman next year!

But Colton Haynes is a really bad actor, bless his heart.

I liked one actress in Supergirl and I tried to watch, but I had to stop. The shows seem to be stuck in between camp and taking themselves too seriously, so the tone is always a bit off. Maybe if they could get some better writing and a better, consistent tone, I could try them again.

Anybody still watching? I think most of the shows premiere this week.

I miss Wentworth Miller on Flash and Legends.

I'm still with Arrow since I started watching from the premiere. But it does suck now and I'm glad it's ending this season.

I'm recording Batgirl right now but I don't even know if I will watch it.

I still love The Flash. It's just fun, light show.

I was sick at home for a few days and was binge watching Arrow from Season 1. I've never seen anything on CW before. I'm on Season 5 now and Oliver's (green arrow) voice changed....what happened?

I hate how the lesbians on these shows get all the action and (outside of Constantine last season) the gay (or bi) men are all neutered.

I still like Legends but I'm not into Ava and feel like she drags Sara down. I thought Nyssa was way hotter and wish they had brought her back instead.

Other than that I'm pretty bored of the other Arrowverse shows. I'll watch the Crisis episodes and the Arrow series finale to see how it wraps up... Maybe the penultimate episode as well, which is a backdoor pilot for the Canaries spinoff.

I'll watch the Flash every now and then but otherwise I'm over most of Berlanti's DC Universe shows.

(Other than Doom Patrol on an entirely different network which isn't technically the same kind of DC show.)

As OP said, while the actress was fine as Barry and Iris's daughter, she really, really, really dragged down the show.

That was the first season I stopped watching every episode and started playing catch up every few weeks.

[Quote] Maybe the penultimate episode as well, which is a backdoor pilot for the Canaries spinoff.

I wonder how it will do since so many fans don't like Laurel. And i get the feeling it's the same with Mia.......?

Agree, R10. Ava's bland af

I'm really liking Arrow"s final season. Like the familiar faces coming back. Only thing I don't like is the flash forward stuff. Find the actress playing Oliver's daughter to be very annoying. Not liking how gay William has to stay behind and always be rescued. If they do do a Canaries spin off does that mean Dinah and Laurel have to be in old age make-up all the time ?

Flash is still stuck in a rut. I don't care about Joe's wife or Iris' newspaper. Barry, Caitlyn (Frost), and Sisco is all I need.

Supergirl. Another martian story. Boring. Brainy is beyond annoying. Bring back Jeremy Jordan. For a show about the power of women, they never hire anyone plain or fat. The new owner of Catco does not look like she could turn on a computer let alone run a conglomerate. Like that Lena is finally turning evil. Kara's bangs have to go.

Liking Batwoman so far but I think it might get old really fast.

Legends is my favorite. Love all the characters. Always have a good laugh.

I still find Legends highly entertaining and will continue to watch it. The rest of the Arrowverse needed to end at least a season ago (except for you, Arrow, you needed to stop at least 3 seasons ago).

[Quote] Find the actress playing Oliver's daughter to be very annoying.

She wasn't great on Shadowhunters.

[Quote] Liking Batwoman so far but I think it might get old really fast.

I'm enjoying it but Alice is starting to remind me of Damon from TVD with her acting tics. And Kate should be trying to put her away instead of asking her to stop killing 🙄 It was also awkward to see Gabriel Mann outact Ruby in their scenes together.

I've given them all up and I don't miss them. I just got tired of the nonsense of these shows. And this season's big crossover event sounds lame. The only show that I'm watching on CW now is Nancy Drew.

I've just about given up on all network shows. Rarely do any of them end when there is no more story to tell. Instead, they beat them to death to get every last bit of profit from them until only the most hardened of fans are watching (and usually just out of habit and not enjoyment). Or the flip side, when a series is first starting, they'll show a couple of episodes, and cancel it immediately when it doesn't perform well enough. I mostly just watch series from the streaming services. You know you'll get a full season no matter what, they usually only go for 4 or 5 years at the most, they can be edgy and provocative without needing to be pandering to the masses, basically everything the big networks aren't.

R14 Jeremy Jordan should be coming back this season, though I'm not sure if it's just for an episode or full time.

When does Roswell come back?

I’m ready for some more of that foolishness and terrible acting.

Roswell is a midseason show, so not until 2020 R20

R20 Jason Behr will be guest starring.

Wish Berlanti would do a cable show of "Midnighter" the gay version of Batman.

Berlanti can't barely do gay in the shows he has

They messed up with William. He's the gay best friend yelling 'You go, gurl!' He should have been in the Connor Hawk role, with the straight legacy guy as the wimpy tech boy.

Berlanti just seems like a burn 'em and churn 'em kind of executive producer or whatever his title is.

I think it would be better to have a few quality shows rather than a bunch of "meh" stuff.

I guess if he keeps making bank though, he doesn't care.

On another note, I hate all of the Supergirl producers. Just so smug and stupid.

[Quote] On another note, I hate all of the Supergirl producers. Just so smug and stupid.

What have they been saying??

[quote]Wish Berlanti would do a cable show of "Midnighter" the gay version of Batman.

If he did then Midnighter would have no sex life. Or he'd end up chasing a chick with a dick.

Hell, let's be real here. Berlanti would have him be straight.

NO GAY MEN ALLOWED IN THE BERLANTIVERSE!

R27, I don't know about anything lately, but just watch them in like Comic-con stuff from 2017 through 2019. I think they're just vapid and have no idea what makes a good story.

I am a sucker for CW shows for some reason. Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Batwoman, Riverdale, Charmed, and Nancy Drew. And that's just CW. However I prefer to record a few episodes and then binge watch them.

I am not looking forward to this year's crossover special of the superhero shows (Crisis), because some (maybe two?) of the main characters will die.

Dang, forgot Roswell, New Mexico.

I gave up on Arrow half way through Season 4.

Gave up on The Flash a couple of episodes into Season 5

Stopped watching Supergirl after season 3.

Not going to watch the new Batgirl and never watched LOT.

I will be tuning into the crossover event though. Mainly for Tom Welling, as I’m a huge smallville fan. I’d also watch the hell out of Tyler Hoechiln As Superman series though.

I dropped all the CW shows except Supergirl, cause she is one of my favorite heroes. That said, Supergirl has been pretty boring for over a year. And this season with its all the Martian stuff is yawn inducing.

Of course, I'll watch the Crisis crossover episodes. Will re-evaluate after that, but at the moment plan to drop Supergirl too once the Crisis is over.

I did DVR the first two episodes of Batwoman but haven't gotten around to watching them yet.

[Quote] I am not looking forward to this year's crossover special of the superhero shows (Crisis), because some (maybe two?) of the main characters will die.

Aside from Arrow and maybe one of the other SM, i don't think they'll kill too many main characters off.

[Quote] I’d also watch the hell out of Tyler Hoechiln As Superman series though.

I've seen speculation about both Tyler and Brandon getting their own SM series on HBO Max.

Barry Allen from the Flash is supposed to die at Crisis. At least that's the main story line on the Flash's new season so far. I believe it was two seasons ago where Iris was supposed to die, but I don't think they would pull the same stunt and let Barry live after all. That would mean that Oliver and Barry will die which kind of makes sense since Arrow was the CW's first superhero show and The Flash the second, meaning that both leads' contracts are up and won't be renewed.

Barry isn't going to permanently die if he does.

Tyler claims that they are not developing a SM tv show with only his character.

I had to stop watching all those shows already years ago since they are so bad. Even The Flash which for three first seasons was mindless fun turned into a mess. Legends was pure excrement from the first episode. I really only liked the first season of Arrow but it was finally Olicity that made the show totally unwatchable. I haven't watched Batwoman but it keeps gettting bad reviews so why even bother. I never really got into Supergirl since it was such fluff from the start.

The only DC show I'm now watching is Titans which feels like a real well-made tv drama next to all the CW crap.

I was a big Roswell fan back in the day and watched season one of the reboot for nostalgic reasons... I like that they made Michael bi, cast nonwhite characters, etc. But I have to admit, learning Nathan Dean Parsons is a MAGA idiot has really ruined my interest in season two. I already disliked his Max as it is.

[Quote] Tyler claims that they are not developing a SM tv show with only his character.

When did he say that??

[Quote] I haven't watched Batwoman but it keeps gettting bad reviews so why even bother.

Maybe check out 1 or 2 eps and then decide for yourself it's that bad.

[quote] But I have to admit, learning Nathan Dean Parsons is a MAGA idiot

Link, please.

R37 Did you check out Doom Patrol? It's really good, but not on CW.

Neither Titans nor Doom Patrol are on CW. They are available exclusively on DC's own streaming service (and, I believe, on Netflix outside the US).

Take a look at who he follows on instagram, for one. When you could still see likes, you could see him frequently liking posts by these accounts (Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, PragerU) about needing to build the wall, punishing women who get abortions, etc. He had to delete some tweets earlier this year supporting those views as well.

I'm surprise Liz dates him in real life since she's very anti-Trump but dick before morals.

Supergirl was a light fun show and then the Agent Liberty storyline hit. Sometimes you want to watch TV just to escape and not have to deal with the same mess that's going on in real life. Basically they turned the show into an Afterschool Special and I got tired of it.

The Flash went off the rails with the Flashpoint storyline. Then they brought that daughter in and it was the final straw.

Arrow was more fun when it was just CW's version of Batman. Rich playboy Oliver and his pals fighting crime. They made the show too complicated.

Legends was never great, but it was light and fun. Then it became a chore to watch.

I've never seen an episode of Batwoman or Black Lightning.

Who watches any of that tacky schlock except for young women and shrieky shopbottoms?

Here's hoping Crisis on Infinite Earths wipes all of them out.

R46 not going to happen.

I watched season 1-6 Arrow the past few days...not sure if I'm gonna continue. Terrible shows on TV these days.

If you watched 6 seasons in a few days, you might as well go all in R48

Batwoman is a woke turd sandwich.

[Quote] Batwoman is a woke turd sandwich.

Said the incel 🙄

Batwoman's love interest Sophie is way too no lesbo for it to be a viable ship. They have negative chemistry.

Ruby Rose has a lot more chemistry with the actress playing her sister which is a little unfortunate.

Batwoman's love interest Sophie is way too no lesbo for it to be a viable ship. They have negative chemistry.

Ruby Rose has a lot more chemistry with the actress playing her sister which is a little unfortunate.

[Quote] Batwoman's love interest Sophie is way too no lesbo for it to be a viable ship. They have negative chemistry.

In your opinion. I think they're fine, but I did find it weird when Meagan said they didn't bother to do a chemistry read together beforehand.

[Quote] Ruby Rose has a lot more chemistry with the actress playing her sister which is a little unfortunate.

It's Wincest all over again 😄

William comes out to Oliver.

Have you tried Black Lightning?

I'm not a fan, but am very likely going to watch the episodes for the crossover event.

R57 hopefully it lives up to the hype.

R56 I must have missed some episodes because now Anissa's girlfriend Grace is also an old man? I knew she turned into a leopard or something but that one is new.

She's a shape shifter r59 because there's no way DC/WB would allow her be an Amazonian like she is in the comics. It still hasn't been fully explained how she got her powers.

I find it hilarious that they just offhand mentioned that Curtis married his rarely seen boyfriend offscreen. Because of course.

So this is Curtis second marriage?

That homophobe Berlanti is not going to have any healthy gay male relationships appear on any of his shows.

R60 Legends of Tomorrow was allowed to name drop Themyscira and had Helen of Troy become an Amazon. I guess that doesn't really fit in the Black Lightning world though.

Does BL take place on a different Earth than Arrow/Flash/Legends?

On Batwoman Wonder Woman, Robin and Joker were mentioned.

So were Riddler and Clayface

Mia is the worst character that any of these shows have had. She's acting like Oliver abandoned her to run off with his mistress instead of sacrificing himself to save the world.

She doesn't know how or why Oliver died though R67

[Quote] Mia is the worst character that any of these shows have had.

Worse than Felicity?

r69 yes, I actually started out loving Felicity. But once they let her take over the show, I couldn't stand her. Mia is horrible from the start.

I would love to see a TV series based on the Midnighter but absolutely not on the CW - it needs to be violent, gory and gritty or not at all.

Berlanti would make Midnighter straight or into trannies.

Now that Berlanti is creating a Green Lantern tv show is going to include gay Alan Scott?

I thought Berlanti was gay?

He is but for some reason does not like to feature prominent gay characters in his shows.

He does bait like a motherfucker, though, based on casting.

Black Lightning is still amazing, and the special effects look like they come from an entirely different company compared to the other CW shows

Keep watching. Berlanti and his husband need a new island.

[Quote] Now that Berlanti is creating a Green Lantern tv show

Plus Adam Strange and Superman.

They should bring back the guy that played Adam Strange on Krypton.

Wikipedia has a detailed write-up for the upcoming Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover event in December and January.

[Quote] The Monitor tells Laurel Lance he can restore Earth-2 if she betrays Oliver.

Of course he did.

I gave up on all the superhero CW shows except Arrow.

May be because Stephen Amell is so pretty.

That said, he has really surprised me in this final season with his performance.

He's so heartfelt in the more emotional scenes. He's nicely matured and I can see him doing other stuff that isn't just superhero nonsense.

Stephen's next tv show is a wrestling show.

Supergirl has become near impossible to watch. It's painfully bad now. If Winn doesn't come back from the future a big(ger) ole' homo, I'm just gonna quit. (And only watch the Crisis episode.)

[quote]Supergirl has become near impossible to watch. It's painfully bad now.

Agreed. Unless it gets considerably better in the next month, I plan to drop the series after the Crisis episodes.

Supergirl's giving too much screen time to the lesbian storyline.

[Quote] Supergirl's giving too much screen time to the lesbian storyline.

What a stupid thing to complain about.

R87 I liked Alex When I watched but her relationships are so boring. She had decent chemistry with Sam/Reign and Sara from Legends... I hated Maggie. I haven't seen much of her new gf.

Pied Piper is rumored to be coming back to the Flash later on this season.

R89 Sam's coming back for an episode. Both Odette and Chris are part of the Thirtysomething reboot.

The CW at the moment will stop airing new episodes of its various shows like the Flash,Riverdale or LOT for example.

Well, not immediately. New episodes are still airing this week. They've just stopped production for now.

I think filming for LOT has already wrapped. But that's not the case for Flash, Supergirl and Batwoman.

Superman was supposed to start filming soon. But now it's going to be in July.

And Stargirl premieres in May.

........

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R96 that's horrible. And I don't think that's the first time someone was injured on the BW set either.

"It's A Super Life "was one of the best episodes of Supergirl ever.

Revolved around what would have happened if she had told Lena Luthor in the beginning she was Supergirl.

I highly recommend streaming that episode.

Everything else in season 5 can lick my ass.

[Quote] Everything else in season 5 can lick my ass.

So you didn't enjoy the latest episode involving Nia?

[quote] Batwoman wasn't there to save the day.

r96 Luckily ScreenRant is here to project some questionable humor into this women's time of need.

R100 i don't know how that site is still going. Every post is inaccurate/full of shit.

So how many actors are just hanging tight in Vancouver now? Or, can you still get flights out of Canada?

R102 not sure. Some of them might have other projects lined up and already left Vancouver.

Tried but can't get into "Batwoman". Ruby Rose is such a bad actress that I can't give a shit for the character. Just proves you should go for the best actor not just a real life lesbian.

Flash has turned into the Iris show and with those 2 annoying characters made series regulars next year, I think I'm out.

Supergirl is just annoying. All male eye candy gone. Lena moping because Kara didn't share her most private secrets with her before she was ready.

Legends is the only one I love. A fun hour full of great characters and laughs.

I'll give Superman a chance next seasons as well as Green Arrow if that gets picked up.

Superman and Lois better have an attractive gay male character but who am I kidding it's Greg Berlanti so it won't.

[Quote] Tried but can't get into "Batwoman". Ruby Rose is such a bad actress that I can't give a shit for the character. Just proves you should go for the best actor not just a real life lesbian.

Which is why they're focusing so much on Alice (and it's getting tired). Everyone is saying how great the last episode was, but i'm not seeing the big deal about what Kate did.

[Quote] Superman and Lois better have an attractive gay male character but who am I kidding it's Greg Berlanti so it won't.

I hope so too 🤞 I'm sure the actor who plays Jonathan Kent will probably get a thread on here. And I wonder who they'll cast as Lana. I find it funny that some want Kristin to come back.

The Flash has been kinda Mehh... since that crisis thing. Who are they making regulars, R104?

R107 The Wells "daughter" character and that annoying black guy.

Oh ... oh dear.

So many racists here who refuse to watch Black Lightning even though it's the far superior show. They can't handle black magic.

I actually found Black Lightning to be racist. No reason all the characters have to act so ghetto

I tried Black Lightning and didn't care for it. Other than The Flash I haven't really liked any of the CW Superhero shows, and that one's been going down hill lately. I wanted to like 'Legends', but it just wasn't very good.

Have you watch anything after the first season of Legends R112? It gets a lot better

I watched a few episodes of the first season before giving up on it.

R110 I do plan on checking out Black Lightning. It's just not at the top of the list. I'm struggling enough as it with Batwoman lol. But Cress was one of the few decent actors on Crisis. And I hope he gets to crossover with the other shows again.

Black Lightning has some of the less good aspects of the Marvel tv shows - a drawn-out plot, angst and endless gangs

R116 what about in comparison to the DC streaming shows like Titans and Doom Patrol?

Not sure it's a good thing that JJ's involved.

I know what you mean, OP. I considering giving up on Fuckermate and Raw Strokes but continuing with a dozen other porn brands. Embarras de richesses.

Black Lightning had a lot of promise, but the whole Markovia story, besides being ludicrous, was drawn out wayyyyy too long. I give them props, though, for keeping Anissa a lesbian, but hate what they did with the Grace character.

Jesus. J.J. Abrams involved = Another ruined property. Not a fan.

R122 doesn't seem like any sci-fi franchise is safe. And it should be after what happened with Star Trek and Star Wars.

To be fair J.J. Abrams was a producer on good to great shows like Fringe, Person of Interest, 11.22.63 and Almost Human. Quite honestly I feel better seeing his name as a producer than Greg Berlanti's. I do love Titans, though, and that's one of Berlanti's shows as well. For some reason I've still yet to start watching Doom Patrol but I've heard it's up there with Titans in overall quality. All other DC shows are pretty much pure crap.

I liked the Abrams Star Treks, lens flare and all.

[Quote] For some reason I've still yet to start watching Doom Patrol but I've heard it's up there with Titans in overall quality. All other DC shows are pretty much pure crap.

I haven't started Titans or Doom Patrol yet. But they certainly look better than the Arrowverse shows. The latest Stargirl trailer looks good too. They really should have put Superman on the streaming service 😔

Zoe Kravitz might be getting her own Catwoman series on HBOMax.

I loved Supergirl during its first season when it was on CBS. My favorite part about it by far was Supergirl’s relationship with her boss, Ally McBeal. I liked how her boss was obviously influenced by the Devil Wears Prada but was actually a lot warmer and a real mentor to Supergirl.

When the show moved to The CW, I followed. And it was the same every single week: A new alien enemy! Supergirl saves the day! A new alien enemy! Supergirl saves the day! Unwatchable. It was an entirely different series even though it was the same series.

Brandon Routh has said that he would like to do an HBO Max show with his version of Superman.

[Quote] Brandon Routh has said that he would like to do an HBO Max show with his version of Superman.

I enjoyed seeing Brandon again as SM. But I don't know if they would do that while Superman and Lois airs, unless it's a miniseries.

The fight scenes in Stargirl are really well done. I expect a major downgrade when it moves to the CW. And will they still be able to afford Luke Wilson?

For your enjoyment- a nice display of Neil Jackson’s (The Icicle) crotch.

[Quote] The fight scenes in Stargirl are really well done. I expect a major downgrade when it moves to the CW. And will they still be able to afford Luke Wilson?

I do too. I can't see Luke sticking around either.

Is the DC tv world risking its audiences with the focus on superheroines and female characters? Flash and Black Lightning have male title characters, but with a huge focus on the female supporting cast. Supergirl, Batwoman, Statgirl and now Catwoman have female central characters, as will the Arrow spin-off if it happens and even Superman isn't allowed a solo series. Are they neglecting the male audience, which is supposedly the bedrock of superhero fandom? Don't get me wrong, I love superheroines (I have a total lifelong devotion to the Scarlet Witch than is un-dentable). I'm just wondering about viewer demographics.

[Quote] and even Superman isn't allowed a solo series.

Does Smallville count??

Not exactly a current show, is it, R134? Unlike, you know, all the ones listed.

R133 You do realize there is a Superman show coming to CW right? Unless it's not considered a 'solo' show because it has Lois in the title?

Presumably the CW audience is predominantly female and the concentration of females is to garner that audience. Wouldn't work for mainstream cinema with the exception being Wonder Woman but not room for too much else.

Yes, exactly that - it's Superman and Lois. I'm only amazed we don't have Flash and Iris yet. Again, I don't mind superheroine shows - if they offered ongoing series for Zatanna, Power Girl, Black Orchid and a Golden-Age set Liberty Belle, I'd be there with my hair in a braid, but why not something for the boys? And I include the gay boys- there's barely a cute guy left standing in the supporting casts now.

They might as well change the name of the show to "Iris". Already this failed newspaper reporter is smarter than all the PhD's on the show.

You’re racist r139

So what if the show sucks

Is anyone going to watch DC Fandome??

Green Lantern series is a go.

I hope it's more Superhero-ish and less romantic angst/family drama like The Flash.

It's HBO Max and not CW, so it should be more action R143

Canceled my DC TV subscription this week.

R144 hopefully they don't move it to the CW like Supergirl and Stargirl.

I have a feeling the new DC shows will start popping up on HBO Max while the older CW shows start dying out.

Any word if Season 2 of Stargirl has started filming? I know it was officially renewed but that no longer means anything anymore.

The guy who plays Hourman used for post about the show on Instagram on a daily basis. He hasn’t posted anything new since August.

[Quote] while the older CW shows start dying out.

Wouldn't be a bad thing.

I wouldn't mind it either. The CW shows have run its course and not as good as they used to be.

They just announced more info on the GREEN LANTERN HBO Max show and I'm excited for it. Even though it's from the same producers of other CW shows, they have more leeway with it being on HBO Max.

[Quote] I wouldn't mind it either. The CW shows have run its course and not as good as they used to be.

Well Supergirl is ending and Arrow is finished. I'm not sure how much longer The Flash will be on for. But Batwoman and Superman are just getting started.

Looks like the Green Lantern series will keep Guy Gardner gay like his Earth 2 version in the comics.

R148 I think Stargirl doesn't start filming again until either late this year or sometime next year.

Supposedly Batwoman and Superman and Lois are getting slight budget increases.

Meant Alan Scott, not Guy Gardner being gay

[Quote] Supposedly Batwoman and Superman and Lois are getting slight budget increases.

Couldn't hurt, especially in Superman's case. Although i don't see the writing improving.

There's rumor that the Flash(tv show) might possibly be delayed again.

R156 I saw that too. And i think it's supposed to air in February.

Legends is already back filming and it is speculated that the Flash could have between 16 to 20 episodes this season.

R158 most of those shows could benefit from having less episodes.

R159 The reason why some of them may want a few more episodes, is so they can wrap up the stories they didn't get to finish from last season.

Some are starting to speculate on the possible future fates of the CW DCTV shows especially Legends and Black Lightning in the wake of all these new DC tv shows coming to HBO Max.

If the Flash does ever go off the air maybe Grant can see if Ryan Murphy will let him fuck him again for a role on one of his tv shows.

[Quote] The reason why some of them may want a few more episodes, is so they can wrap up the stories they didn't get to finish from last season.

I get that.

[Quote] Some are starting to speculate on the possible future fates of the CW DCTV shows especially Legends and Black Lightning in the wake of all these new DC tv shows coming to HBO Max.

I don't see Black Lightning ending just yet. But not so sure about Legends and The Flash.

[Quote] If the Flash does ever go off the air maybe Grant can see if Ryan Murphy will let him fuck him again for a role on one of his tv shows.

🤢🤢🤢

In terms of ratings The Flash is said to be at the top r161 while Black Lightning is supposedly towards the bottom.

Ahh which male Glee actor didn't have to take a turn on Ryan Murphy's casting couch.

R163 i really think only Chord and Darren did.

R164 They both did even if Darren likes to pretend he didn't. Chord allegedly didn't at first but later on had to once he came back because he pissed off Ryan for leaving.

I thought we had already verified that Ryan Murphy has no sexual organs.

R165 to be fair, i wouldn't want to acknowledge it either.

Maybe r167 but that closet case practically used Ryan's couch.

Who knows how much longer the Flash has left . Some believing maybe 1 or 2 seasons at the most left. Also some fans were pissed that the Reverse Flash wasn't in Crisis after years of hyping him up as being apart of it.

Painkiller from Black Lightning is getting his own spin-off.

Superhero shows generally need more nudity. Titans gets it right.

Have they even made a decision on that Green Arrow spinoff yet?

It looks like they're going to be doing Alan Scott's daughter on Stargirl season 2.

I don't think the father knows, he probably is blowing them in the garage or something. Sometimes these guys just want to blow their load and go.

[Quote] Have they even made a decision on that Green Arrow spinoff yet?

No they haven't. An announcement was supposed to be made back in August. I don't understand what the hold up is.

Another new DCTV show is in the works. This time for the CW. A Wonder Girl tv show about the new Wonder Girl they just very recently introduced into DC comics and are currently writing for. This new Wonder Girl being the product of an Amazonian and a Brazilian God.

¿Quién es Donna Troy?

Donna Troy is on Titans. This possible Wonder Girl for the CW will be Yara Flor. Who was just recently introduced in the comics. There are calls by some that if the show is picked up for them not to do what Fox did and not to use Wonder Woman's rogues gallery.

Are there more Wonder Girls than Robins now?

R178 There have been 3 Wonder Girls including this current one and if you don't count Dianna while there have been five Robins.

What about little ‘ol me?

[Quote] Another new DCTV show is in the works. This time for the CW.

Isn't it always for the CW? I'd rather have a show about Nubia.

I would like to see Nubia and I-Ching to have their own series.

R182 I would too but not on the CW.

No r181 many of the new announced DC comics tv shows have been going to HBO Max.

R184 but they'll also be on the CW.

As of right now no they won't r185. The CW DC comics tv shows are now going to HBO Max instead of Netflix after they finish their season's on the CW.

Black Lightning is coming to end with season 4. There are accusations of racism about the upcoming Superman and Lois show. Supposedly some fans are angry at Caity Lotz and Chris Wood and angry that Legends is continuing while Black Lightning will be ending.

CW have put all their eggs in one basket and now they are plumbing the depths of comic world and are coming up with D grade superheroes that no-one cares about other than comic fanboys.

[Quote] Black Lightning is coming to end with season 4.

They should get at least 6. Now the Painkiller spin-off makes sense.

[Quote] There are accusations of racism about the upcoming Superman and Lois show.

Nadria has done several interviews and Ray Fischer reached out to her. Todd sounds like an absolute idiot saying there aren't many black actors in Canada.

[Quote] Supposedly some fans are angry at Caity Lotz and Chris Wood

Caity's been messy on twitter and her hanging out with Ruby doesn't help that. But why Chris? What did he do?

Who is Ruby

R190 the actress who was fired from Batwoman.

I'm not completely sure r189 but supposedly I think Chris said something about people and families should try coming back together after Joe Biden won the election.

There has already been rumors swirling around that Black Lightning might not last much longer.

[Quote] There has already been rumors swirling around that Black Lightning might not last much longer.

I wonder if one of the reasons was because Cress wasn't willing to move to Vancouver. And it's shitty that China didn't know the show was being cancelled till they announced it.

David will be directing (and appearing in) several episodes of different shows from the Arrowverse.

The Flash is possibly being delayed again after someone there tested positive.

Ava DuVernay will be putting out a new DCTV show for the CW.

R196 i feel like this is a step down for Ava.

Well r197 she had to reassure DC fans that despite doing this tv show. She still plans to do the New Gods movie. It seems that DC/WB is just handing out potential tv shows for their characters. I guess to compete with the MCU.

[Quote] I guess to compete with the MCU.

Well they're doing a terrible job at it. And it's not much better in the movie department.

[quote] There is just too much TV and I don't think they're good anymore. What are your thoughts?

You made a commitment to watching these tv shows and you should keep it. What are you, a communist? If you find there's too much on tv to watch, you are probably spending too much time on other things in your life. I recommend you reexamine your choices and find a way to make more time for tv.

Why are fans pissed at Caity Lotz because of the Black Lightning cancelation? WTF?

R201 i didn’t know this was a thing. I know some fans thought it was China's fault because she was going to leave.

Superman's new suit 🤔

Green Arrow And The Canaries isn't happening.

I still like Whose Line Is it Anyway, though I am getting tired of Aisha Tyler's and Wayne Brady's racist comments.

Not surprising r204 considering all the rumored bts drama and that Kat was allegedly told that she would be getting a spinoff show as the lead and not an ensemble show that it was turning into.

R206 what drama? I wonder if they will try to put them on Batwoman instead 🤔

So the project with a gay male lead gets canned - figures.

Dominic Purcell is quitting Legends. Sounds like some bad blood.

R209 apparently he isn't and was just fucking around. Though he probably gets points from DL for using cunt in his first instagram post.

Purcell is a liar. He meant what he wrote. He even edited the post to take out "cunt" and reposted the same thing. Now he's saying he was click-baited. He spouted off, Phil Klemmer came around and offered him recurring and now he's trying to act as if the media was the one stirring up trouble. He's too old and inconsequential for this type of nonsense.

Get rid of him and bring back Brandon/Ray. No more Nora, though.

R211 I had a feeling something was up when Ruby left and he commented "fuck Batwoman". Doesn't seem like he gives much of a fuck.

R212 I don't see that happening since Brandon was forced to leave.

Stargirl moved to the CW with Season 2 but so far the first few episodes have still been great. They introduced Jade (Green Lantern’s daughter) who is searching for her brother…so hopefully a gay Obsidian is on the horizon! And the last episode had a quick preview of Jakeem Thunder (plus a cameo of Ethan Embry as the original Johnny Thunder).

The executive producer of Arrow is one of the meanest women in all of Hollywood. For that alone, I'd never watch it.

R216 please elaborate

OP I think you should definitely give up on Supergirl, considering it's been canceled.

R219 Supergirl wasn't cancelled. Melissa didn't want to do another season after having a kid.

I am aware. I didn't mean canceled due to low ratings. I mean canceled because the people involved in the series didn't want to keep doing it. It was flippancy. The point is: everyone needs to "give up on it" because there will be no more episodes.

Danielle Panabaker is pregnant again and Gary has no romantic chemistry "human Gedion".

R223 good for her.

CW has been worthless since Crazy Ex Girlfriend ended.

Why would anyone with a pulse watch this franchise shit?

R228 masochism

I think that Supergirl actress was always upset that she got "demoted" from CBS to the CW, especially since Flockhart jumped ship after the move. She only stayed for the paycheck until she found a good excuse...

R231 most actors would be. Calista leaving hurt the show and most of the writers were from Gossip Girl. They also had to put up with Andrew Kreisberg being a creep. Six seasons is a good run and they were going to do a Superman show so....