Just in time for Gay Pride Month!

No rules. Dear straights, we appreciate your support unconditionally. Thanks for supporting a cause that isn't inherently your own.

[quote]The mostly transgender patrons of color at The Stonewall are credited with starting the LGBT civil rights movement.

It's common knowledge.

There are no more Pride parades - but there are plenty of trans-dominated events.

Straight “allies” are a myth like Bush’s “compassionate conservatives.

They’re either horny straight guys hitting on women in gay bars or they’re drunk straight women being a-holes in a gay bar. In either case, they’re no allies. They’re just bigots in pride camouflage.

They're straight parents or grandparents supporting their son or daughter.

I hate shit like this. It’s basically, “please treat us like we are special.” It’s a fucking parade. I’m glad that non-gays and lesbians and trans want to come and have a good time. “Don’t take our picture even though I’m dressed in rainbow tights and lipsynching to Lady Gaga while carrying a pride flag.” Mmm hmmm.

No trannies!

Thinking about attending this year, may take surveillance in Toronto and post to DL to see normal tranny percentage.

We celebrate our history and pride by getting messy on meth and fucking in the port a potties along the parade route! Oh, and it’s a protest, too:we protest there aren’t more places to host cum dump parties! Each load is like a fist raised in the air to support our trans sisters!

[quote]Straight “allies” are a myth like Bush’s “compassionate conservatives.

So who is voting pro-gay? When Prop 8 came up in LA, it passes by only a slim margin. We are 2-3% of the population on a good day. Someone is supporting is, and being snide about it is just shitty. Grow up.

This is not how to Win friends and influence people . What a noxious article .

Gay Pride is not Trans Pride

Sorry I can't go, #4 on that list eliminates me, even if I'm a gay male.

Love the bod in Ops pic. Shame about the wig.

R10 Sure and how long ago was that? A handful of States passed same sex marriage by popular vote before the Supreme Court ruled on it.

Being 2% of the population in a neo nazi environment isn’t being shitty or snide. It’s realisitic. We’re an unpopular minority that’s used and marginalized. Hate crimes against us are at the highest point in ten years with more states pushing aggressively to pass discrimination laws in housing and employment to under the Supreme Court.

This is the same shit that started in Germany in the 1930s and ignoring it is what’s shitty. Trump rules by edit, bypassing Congress - just like Hitler did. He’s a fascist. More than 30% of the country agrees with him, which is the same margin of support Hitler had when he took over the Reichstag.

So, suck it. We’re damned to repeat history and be Trump’s death camp bitches.

What an insufferable, bleeding gash. Fucking cunt shouldn’t act like she speaks for all.

Datalounge agrees with #5 though... well, the first half of it anyway.

This article was written by below

"Resilient Fat Goddex"

But you can make shix.

[quote]we reserve Pride as the opportunity to express ourselves in the way that is most authentic to our community. Sometimes that’s by drunkenly singing Robyn songs at the top of our lungs and sometimes it’s by crying during the eulogy for our murdered trans sisters.

Oh, PLEASE.

What about our trans BROTHERS??

I stopped reading when the author continued to perpetuate the revisionist version/false narrative that The Stonewall patrons and riots were led by trans patrons of color.

There was a DL poster who used to post a very long, informative, and most importantly documented/researched article that takes apart this false narrative the trannies are pulling. Hopefully that DLr will post it again.

R14 I think he looks fabulous

Jesus that quote at R21 is pathetic. People like that that fetishize being a minority for its feeling of exclusivity. Telling others that they’ll just never understand us makes ‘em feel speshul.

I'm straight and female. DL might want me fucking off fast to a greasefire 🔥 and fair enough if you stop reading my post at this point. But FWIW here's an 'outsider' POV:-

I've joined lesbian and gay friends and their extended families many times anually at local Pride events and political/fundraiser rallies elsewhere since the Nineties.

The militancy, aims, agenda and forms of Trans activism now manifesting does trouble me to be frank.

R11 R12 and R13 here also confirm to me why my wiser straight course now and likely in future years will be to remain absentee in swelling Pride ranks and numbers ito demonstrate 💪🌈 political solidarity, and muscle that, for me, has never been about JUST the weekend partying or Events usully surrounding Pride in different cities and places worldwide.

Reading here and elsewhere about Edmonton's example, say or what's happening in London and to longtime Lesbian and Feminist activists and spokespeople I've followed, or read, and am locally friends with now villified in different arenas/having their careers and work diminished makes me doubt whether my usuall display of 'alliance' is wise.

That is a shame. I don't know what to do when I read an article like this and the snide simplistic point #4 pisses me off.

I agree with R11 x 1000.

R26. It’s not your fight. Now, it may be different in Canada. Here, our events are coopted and turned into straight street festivals.

Maybe straight people think they’re being allies. But a lot of the tactics that were used to suppress us in the 70s and 80s like arresting us for “indecency” (men in leather, the cross dressers), and media’s constant obsession with whatever it considers the most excessive and mockable to put on TV so it appears we’re freaks.

Then, we get the mommy stroller brigades who march through and demand that everything they find objectionable so little Haldol and Xanaxia won’t get offended because WON’T SOMEBODY THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN?

We’re being straightwashed - at a gay event. This is regular.

Increasingly, we have completely non-gay groups that hijack the marches entirely, which has happened in Canada as well. They claim to be “Queer Activists” who have no connection to the gay community, demand the funds raised by the actual groups who have worked all year on these events be turned over to them and of course, they be put in charge or they’ll block the parade in their show of hissy fitism.

This is the kind of shit we’re tired of. It’s why many of us who put up with being bullied in the 70s and 80s by straight people and survived AIDS and watched our friends die and our governments ignore us won’t take crap from a bunch of fake as “allies” or “queers” who treat us like a straight street festival they get to dictate terms to, blackmail or issue proclamations to.

We were born out of rage against being bullied. Stonewall was just one of many, and it wasn’t a bunch of drag queens in stilettos. It was gay men who’d had all the crap they could take and fought back.

That’s why we don’t need any more lecturing from straight allies.

I appreciate and thank you for your insights R27.

Never been a fan of lumping trans in with Gay Pride.

Thank you R26 for being a straight ally.

With pleasure R30. I will now butt out of the thread.

Wigs.

I attended many gay pride parades in NYC and elsewhere when I was young. I still go to the pride fair in my current home city. Some trans were ALWAYS in evidence. For me, this started in 1979. So Trans is not a new phenomenon in gay pride events. (We called them drag queens). Some marched, some were viewers. Additionally, some gay men dressed in obvious drag (beards or mustaches in addition to wigs and makeup) as a sort of camp. I don't call them trans or drag queens, because it was so obvious that they didn't do this on a daily basis.

There WERE drag queens among the protesters at the original Stonewall, and this is attested to in contemporaneous newspaper accounts, so don't be trying revisionist shit here. There were both gay men and trans people at Stonewall.

Straight ally, you don't need to leave the thread or apologize for being on DL. R27 can fuck himself. He doesn't speak for all of us.

lol I love articles written by collegiates with the self-awareness and education of a 10th grader with access to Wikipedia.

r27, I appreciate your point of view from your perspective. I am thinking you made some personal experience that had you ending up with a somewhat unique take on the straight allies issue. But I think you are missing (or ignoring) a lot of good points that lets others come to a different opinion. Again: You got some valid points, but please keep in mind that others have points just as valid as yours that makes them reach different conclusions.

After re-reading R27, it's pretty clear he's just upset that he can't walk around in public in nothing but a boa and cock ring.

Drag queens are NOT “trans”. They are GAY MEN!!!

Pride is insufferable. I don't date guys who go

“As a femme-presenting queer woman,”

I know I’m getting old but what goes this mean? Transwoman or lesbian?

R40. Whatever it is, it sounds like turtlenecks, jeans and cherry chapstick.

[quote]The mostly transgender patrons of color at The Stonewall are credited with starting the LGBT civil rights movement.

If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes true.

My God, make it stop.

That article must have been written by a trans.

Why do some freaks show up nude with their dicks hanging out and also why are children attending pride parade. straight people should leave their kids at home because kids should not be exposed to seeing a grown man erect penis and men engaging in sexual activities. I saw a picture of a little girl covering her face when a naked man walked by.

The article is complete bullshit. All one has to do is search online for photos of the Stone wall riots and you will see that OVERWHELMINGLY the crowd is made up of young, white gay men. Why the trans keep pushing this false narrative is beyond me, when there is actual photographic data that disproves it.

What R46 said.

I trust the contemporaneous articles, which specifically mention drag queens over photographs.. Most photographs from Stonewall are not date identified, so we don't know if they are day one, two, or three. The article below was written the next day, July 6, 1969

"The whole proceeding took on the aura of a homosexual Academy Awards Night. The Queens pranced out to the street blowing kisses and waving to the crowd. A beauty of a specimen named Stella wailed uncontrollably while being led to the sidewalk in front of the Stonewall by a cop. She later confessed that she didn’t protest the manhandling by the officer, it was just that her hair was in curlers and she was afraid her new beau might be in the crowd and spot her. She didn’t want him to see her this way, she wept.

The crowd began to get out of hand, eye witnesses said. Then, without warning, Queen Power exploded with all the fury of a gay atomic bomb. Queens, princesses and ladies-in-waiting began hurling anything they could get their polished, manicured fingernails on. Bobby pins, compacts, curlers, lipstick tubes and other femme fatale missiles were flying in the direction of the cops. The war was on. The lilies of the valley had become carnivorous jungle plants."

Unless you think that "normal gay white men" of the time routinely carried bobby pins, compacts, curlers, lipstick tubes" etc, then the author of the article was witnessing drag queens and/or trans patrons.

Sorry, meant to say, the next week ^^^ not the next day.

r48, you trust a virulently homophobic article from the New York Daily News that matches no other account and is headlined

"HOMO NEST RAIDED, QUEEN BEES STINGING MAD"

Seriously? An article that quotes someone as "lisped, matter-of-factly"?

Please note the photo that ran with the story, which was gay white men.

This sounds like it was written by the same lesbian who was scolding Mayor Pete for not being gay enough in the way she/it approves.

Anyone who uses terms like allies is a complete tool.

Very moving article. Thanks for posting OP, you said a lot.