Treasons to Like Subpoena Coladas (The Mueller Investigation Part 104)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons to Protect Our Assets (The Mueller Investigation Part 93) (March 26, 2019)

Treasonable Interference (The Mueller Investigation Part 94) (March 31, 2019)

Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95) (April 6, 2019)

Treasons You May Leave (The Mueller Investigation Part 96) (April 11, 2019)

Treasonable Redactions (The Mueller Investigation Part 97) (April 18, 2019)

Treasons We Won't Abandon Him (The Mueller Investigation Part 98) (April 19, 2019)

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) (April 24, 2019)

Treasons She was Right... About Everything (The Mueller Investigation Part 100) (April 30, 2019)

Treasonable Returns on Your Investment (The Mueller Investigation Part 101) (May 3, 2019)

When It's Treasonable to Assert Your Privilege (The Mueller Investigation Part 102) (May 9, 2019)

Treasons You May Have a Rat (The Mueller Investigation Part 103)(May 17, 2019)

Treasons to Like Subpoena Coladas (The Mueller Investigation Part 104) (May 22, 2019)

yes! Judge upholds the subpoena of Trump's Deutsche Bank records. Yesterday was the accountant ruling.

See how important federal judges are? This is why I'm so worried about all the new ones who have been appointed under Trump. They might not have ruled this way

Is Miss Hope still 'dating' married men with kids?

Taking on Lindsey.

Deutsche statement in full:

“We remain committed to providing appropriate information to all authorized investigations and will abide by a court order regarding such investigations.

It's the money trail that will do these criminals in.

Deutsche Bank had basically become a big money laundering outfit for oligarchs Russian and non, to hear their former employees tell it.

Deutsche zBank is mart enough to know the end of this presidency is near. They are going to be torn apart so people are just trying to get out of jail.

will Deutsche Bank end up going under? I mean it's been involved in so much scandal. The question is WHY. Why did they help Russians launder money? Why did they keep loaning Trump money even though he had awful credit and was known not to pay back anything?

But the decision is sure to be appealed. Do they wait?

Tell me this isn't the face of evil.

I understand that Deutsche Bank is in Germany, but why they even have any kinds of records of their shady dealings is beyond me. You'd think they have some fake transactions cover up the real criminal activity. I mean, they should be experts with that if they are doing this for such a very long time.

You obviously don’t know Germans very well, R15. They are nothing if not thorough, even when it comes to the bad stuff.

R15- That's why I don't trust them to turn over real documents. They say they will, but what's to stop them from creating fake documents that make all of Trump's transactions look legitimate?

It’s the face of FAT evil r14.

What r16 said, r15. Germans are obsessive about record keeping.

I so want some of the bank documents to have Justice Kennedys sons signature and approval.

Slow and steady wins the race.

Why would DB cover for this Kkkrime kkklan?

If they fail to turn over the real records, you can bet someone will release them and tarnish their horrible reputation even further.

They have the most to gain by coming clean and getting in line to be repaid the money fat Donnie owes them.

Unless they figure pooty will get his panties in a was if they do.

Somehow, I get the feeling that it's turning into every rat for himself and unless you're throwing someone under the bus, you will get thrown under the bus.

You're either the throwER or the throwEE.

These titles get stupider every time around.

But the content is so, so good.

People forget....one of the earliest things Sessions did, was to reduce the amount of the fine DB owed from being prosecuted for money laundering.....he reduced from something like 690 million to something trivial...like 10 million. Out of the blue....i remember it happening because i was pissed that there wasnt more coverage about it...but then again....its always something different every time you turn around.

Brilliant title, OP.

No, R22, but your trollish posts sure do.

I would bet R22 spends a lot of time FF-ing these threads.

I am taking a trip up to DC in the next week or two to visit my former co-workers and friends. My main "source" is going to do her best to make it. She is very nervous about sharing things over text or phone call because she worked for a long serving, recently retired, House Dem. She is working on getting on the pundit circuit. If she shows up, I will likely have some great scoop. I have been writing down things I want to ask like about La Senatrice. I want her to spill completely what she has heard. I should still get good stuff from the others. After all, they spilled about Aaron Schock to me.

Pres Bone Spurs is afraid of Nancy. She has him off his game. She is walking a careful line ( or so he thinks) and that unnerves him.

Godspeed and good luck, FCI. Come back with dish.

Deutsche Bank interacts with other banks internationally, and must comply with banking laws wherever they transact business. If they falsify records and get caught, multiple financial institutions could refuse to honor their revenue transfers and they could face hefty penalties and their officials could face prosecutions. The problem is not so much the character of their clients, but if they knowingly broke laws during the flow of money.

Putin will do everything he can to protect Deutsche bank.

yes I think Pelosi took an important step today. She finally BRANDED Trump. He uses branding for everything and it's effective. Short and simple words work best with the public. Pelosi finally started using "cover-up". That is a branding that will stick to Trump. it's not some long drawn out, nuanced line that will go over idiots' heads or that lazy people will skip over. "Cover-up" makes you notice. Good work Nancy. If Democrats are to turn more of the public on to impeaching they must keep branding Trump like this.

Angela Merkel despises Trump and Putin. She will bring the hammer down on Deutsche Bank.

Yes, Nancy did brand him and it sent him into meltdown.

lmfao Nancy told Kellyanne off!!!! I wish there had been a camera to capture it

[quote]After Trump abruptly left legislative leaders meeting today, Kellyanne Conway asked Pelosi if she wanted to respond to what Trump had said. "I'll respond to the president, not staff," Pelosi said. "Wow, that's really pro-woman of you," Kellyanne Conway said back, per aides.

Why did Dumpy huff out?

Oh Kellyanne, even your husband knows your full of shit and is willing to share that opinion with the whole world. Why does Nancy Pelosi need to waste her time with you?

Nancy Pelosi knows how to deal with Trump. Her political skills are hard seasoned, and she knows what Trump is thinking before he utters his bullshit. Trump is afraid of Pelosi and she knows it. Nancy gave Trump a very bad day.

Kellyanne, stick with Jake Tappers and Chris Cuomo for yapping your crap. You are not in Pelosi's league.

[quote]That's why TELEVISED impeachment hearings and interviews are so fucking important.

Why do people keep saying that like everyone in the world doesn't already know it? There's a reason we keep subpoenaing people and there's a reason the Repugs are fighting it with every lie they can think of.

[quote]Putin will do everything he can to protect Deutsche bank.

The point then becomes that if Putin has to bail out Deutsche Bank then how long til he sees Trump as no longer serving his purpose and a liability.

And then will Putin bring it all crashing down?

Pelosi should have started impeachment proceedings MONTHS ago. It doesn't matter that the Senate won't convict; it matter that the hearing are publicly televised, that the corruption is aired for the world to see and that these compromised Republicans are forced to take a career-ruing vote after the American public knows how evil this Administration has been.

The gambit that impeachment will hurt Dems' chances in 2020 is ludicrous; this is a major reason why they were elected in the mid-terms. If Pelosi doesn't impeach, the U.S. electorate will rightly see Democrats as toothless wimps and we probably won't even hold onto the House.

Stop talking about Nancy likes she's some master chess player. She's not. She's a politician refusing to do the right and moral thing because she's afraid it might backfire.

Until she moves to impeach, she's as complicit as any of Trump's cabal of criminals.

R41, you're not very bright. Why don't you try holding your breath until she pulls the trigger and save us from more of your awesome analysis?

"It's. Never. Enough."

Like your sychophant behavior over Trump, Lindsey?

Never. Enough. Penis.

Can't we get some better Russian Trolls? Your 'Abusive Boyfriend From An Afterschool Special' schtick is really weak. "It's the Democrats fault Dump is a broke-ass, sociopathic, compromised con-man!" "It's women's fault that neandertheists are trying to demote them to a legally subhuman status!" "Global Warming is good for you! What do you think killed the dinosaurs?"

Also, can someone remind me of what the Russian plan for warfare via social engineering is called? One of their top neoKGB guys wrote a long paper detailing what they intended to do to us and I wanna find it again.

Yahoo: Poll finds wide support for Mueller and McGahn to testify in Congress

Your dentures are loose, Nancy at R42.

NYT: Should the Electoral College Be Eliminated? 15 States Are Trying to Make it Obsolete

Could Nancy P be compromised? After all, the Russians hacked the Democrats too.

R49, you trolls are really nervous, huh?

I mean you can't even control the dumb shit coming out of your mouths.

FCI. Have fun! If you end up with any restaurant recs I'd appreciate it will be in DC for the ALA librarian conference in June.

The trolls never stop...Putin's divide and conquer tactics are on full display.

I saw a poll that said 39% of the public are now for impeachment.

That sounds higher than it was last week.

Yep, get the details.

Part of me really wants to impeach now, but I think Nancy knows exactly what she's doing. There will be more and more crazy incidents from the bitch in the White House, and each one will slowly leach away support until it's time to strike.

I am getting concerned.

Story on the meeting.

He's essentially talking himself into an impeachment every day.

Trump turned to Twitter to make his sarcastic retort: “Nancy, thank you so much for your prayers, I know you truly mean it!”

I imagine that said in Reagan's voice, R59, for some sick, sad reason.

This nightmare has turned into repeat mode.

That was his response to Nancy? He is fucking petrified of her. He's got nothing to say to her except faint sarcasm? My sides!

Pres Bone Spurs is boring. He squawks the same tired lines all the time. Everything is "the biggest in history" "Never before have we seen such and such" it is beyond tired. He jumped the shark and has no new material. He's in the later seasons of "Whatchu talking bout, Willis?" mode.

When I read the most recent headlines this afternoon, my immediate thought: This shit is getting sooooooooooooooo good!

I think what cracks me up the most is how much of a misogynist's nightmare this whole Trump versus Nancy thing is. It's like Misogyny opposite world. It's the man who is driven constantly by mood, and whim, and emotion, and vindictiveness, and the complete inability to think anything out long term. It's the woman who is calm and collected and able to think strategically and actually think that maybe what I do or say today might affect how things work out tomorrow. It's like you couldn't think of a better test case to blow misogyny out of the water.

r49, I know you're just another Dmitri or a barely literate low information deplorable, but the answer is: NO. The Russians/Republicans *released* the DNC info they hacked via WikiLeaks (remember that whole imaginary pizza parlor basement thing?) and *kept* the RNC info with which to *blackmail* the republikons.

[quote]“The fact is, in plain sight, this President is obstructing justice and is engaged in a coverup — and that could be impeachable,” Pelosi said to thunderous applause from the liberal audience. “As they say, the coverup is frequently worse than the crime.”

She can talk the talk, but can she walk the walk?

R63 it's good to see it's working now. It infuriated me how Hillary was calm during the election and debates yet Trump still won. I know I know he got help from Russia but there were enough idiot Americans who voted for him. I love that Trump cannot get rid of Nancy. Unless there's some election hacking in 2020, she will likely remain Speaker of the House as Democrats should hold it

The Russians rigged the election.

They're, also, apparently trying to take over Africa.

And trying to radicalize African-Americans

And they hacked the US electric grid and scores of US energy companies/providers

And, although the fellow who coined the term regrets having done so, the propaganda/brainwashing/disinformation plan is known as the Gerasimov Doctrine.

More about Russia invading Africa

And there are warnings of new strategies having been recently incorporated in the existing operation

Info on how AI may play a role in Russia's asymmetric cyber warfare

@R70 - More proof

I was trapped in one of the downtown high rises when this occurred. The entire financial / retail district / international shipping ports were suddenly frozen. Dead. Looking down to the streets from 40 stories above the chaos taking place below, people panicked, streaming out of buildings into the streets. Traffic signals, dead; people running everywhere, police cars and fire engines blocking main intersections, etc.

Yet the cause of the outage was reported as 'human error.'

Sure.

(It was a 'Test.')

^^ Link . . .

And yet our WH resident is weak asf (sorry, it is appropriate to use that for this) on Russia attacking us and having its way around the world. How can any Boomer or even older Gen X be comfortable with this? We had Russia beat and, of course, they find a common friend in amoral conservatives and the GOP. We have the weakest possible party and president in power at this time. I guess they actually won the Cold War after all.

Putin knew Hillary had his number. He hated her. He knew she would kick his ass.

I would feel a lot more hopeful about the outcome of future grid attacks if we had a *scientist* in charge of the Department of Energy instead of a moron, fratboy, fascist who, when pressed, could not remember the name of the department he now heads and, also, considered it unimportant enough as to be abolished for the sake of lower taxes for multi-millionaires.

Thanks OP, for yet another thread!

How can we know for certain the Russians/Republicans *released* ALL the DNC info they hacked via WikiLeaks? Could they also have kept back some DNC info for *blackmail* purposes? You know, as they seem to have done in the case of Graham? We are at war & so far Putin is ahead. Nancy (“corporate” Democrat) Pelosi’s behavior is starting to smell.

r79 obsequious isn't a good look for you.

The Russians do not have anything on the Dems. The Dems are not good blackmail material. We actually have morals and give a shit about the country and Constitution. They have all they need with the GOP.

And besides, Dems believe in the rule of law.

OK, ya got me.

Agree with posters upthread. Got to hand it to Pelosi.

The other complaints about Trump mostly have occurred [bold] after [/bold] he’s pretty much done something awful (criticizing a Gold Star family, etc.). Too late. He moves on.

Nancy branded him as the “Cover Up con even as he was planning to tell more people to withhold documents and not testify. He can’t do it now without almost everyone asking “what’s he trying to cover up”?

That, and the courts unsealing documents revealing his other, umm, shortcomings. No wonder he’s going bonkers.

All Hail Pelosi!

Up thread someone mentioned Tulsi Gabbard as someone connected heavy to Russia. I agree. She is running for president to stir shit up. Hopefully, she'll be done before she starts. I recently drove through Iowa on I-80 and about half way through the state there is a large, lone sign sitting on a hill that says "Tulsi." It's fitting but a bit sad. Almost looks a bit homemade.

r84 I've met Nancy. She is incredible in person, truly whip smart, shart, funny and quick. I would never bet against her. That is not to say she is perfect who won't lose battles but she has the Dem party on a tight leash. Whatever comes out that looks like it is against her or challenging her has all been approved by her. They don't do anything without Mama Nancy approving it.

^^^^ well not shart ( I hope not lol) but, of course, sharp.

Impeachment NOW!

Thanks FCI. You always bring such good info.

Impeachment now feels good and is probably, in normal times, something that would have been done a while ago. We are not in normal times. All you impeachment now-ers don't see the steady stream of shit coming out daily, all the steps places like NY state are taking which will lead to damning evidence coming out. Once impeachment hearings start, if you thought he has gone off the rails NOW, you haven't seen anything yet. He and the GOP will ramp up their horrendous shit, the judges, the policies, the Nazis they will put in positions of power. Instead, let the death by a thousand cuts occur. It is driving him (more) insane and bonkers. It isn't as easy to develop a coherent, cohesive strategy against that. But with impeachment proceedings? Powerful, easy to understand rallying agent he will pummel into the ground with easy.

R45, do you mean ”hypernormalisation”, the term used by Curtis to describe the Russian psyops movement of organized chaos overseen by Putin strategist Vladimir Surkov? This is the destabilization of political systems by making people question their own reality through planned riots, setting groups against each other etc. — Wikipedia used to have a great bit in Surkov’s but “someone” has scrubbed it.

Ah yes, someone upthread has it right, it’s called the “Gerasimov Doctrine“, and Vladimir Surkov (who I just posted about) is heavily involved.

Meanwhile, Trump’s going to force the GOP into another government shutdown because he refuses to do any legislative work with the House if they engage in Congressional Oversight.

He’s such a child.

If Nancy's strategy is to make poor Donald lose what's left of his tiny little mind, she's doing a damn good job. I expect things are just going to get worse; He seems on the verge of something very, very bad. When she said "I pray for him and I pray for our country" Wow! That was very effective. She is almost gas lighting his big ass. Oh this is delightful to watch-just so long as he is out of office before he does even more harm to our country. He is bad. David Cay Johnson has a wonderfully scary book-about 2 years old now- It's Even Worse Than You Think. Why the media isn't talking about how bad and long lasting some of his policies are is sad.

How long will all of this last?

Too long, r95.

R76's post reminds me of something I heard many years ago and that Brookings post made me think of it, too.

Yes, that grid shutdown in Seattle was a test. And I would bet money that traitor is trying to get his hands on military info regarding AI so he can pass it along.

Putin seems determined to develop an AI to wreak as much chaos as possible with the minimal effort on his part.

Problem is, he has no money and no talent and none of his buddies are going to spring for this shit when they could have a yacht and some hookers instead.

So Putin is going to try anything to get his hands on either IP, military secrets or get sanctions relief in the hopes he can catch up to the US and China.

I'd bet fat Donnie would gladly turn that shit over if he knew WTF he was doing.

But he's so goddamned obtuse he has no idea how to get the info and his cabinet secretaries are just as fucking dumb as he is.

I will enjoy watching Mitch McConnell's evil dreams turn to dust when trump is out and Democrats reclaim the presidency. He backed trump after the orange menace agreed to nominate his Federalist Society's judicial picks. In order to install conservative judges McConnell and his devious allies were willing to destroy the country by supporting a malignant narcissist in the white house. Republicans have been cheating for decades. May they suffer on earth before burning in hell. They are fucking with our democracy and I want karma to fuck with them.

If Nancy really wants to make poor Donald lose what’s left of his tiny, little mind, she’d start impeachment hearings right away. It might bring on a psychotic break.

Without official investigations, with testifying witnesses, how will a case be made for impeachment and conviction? If the Democrats don't first get these people to testify on the record and just jump to impeachment, the only official investigation will be that of the Senate Repugs. Trump wants to be impeached because he knows that's the case. He wants this all moved to the Senate under McConnell instead of in the House under Pelosi. Those of you clamoring for a quick impeachment vote don't seem to understand this fact. What you are clamoring for is to put McConnell in charge of the investigation instead of Pelosi.

Lindsay Graham will have a lot to answer for by giving Russia a stronghold within the US in South Carolina from where they can build a bigger Russian network.

What do you think the chance is that the reason Mueller can't testify yet is that the counter-intelligence investigation will be wrapping up in early June? The DoJ just agreed to give Schiff a bunch of evidence from the counter-intelligence part of Mueller's investigation, an investigation that is not yet complete and is not covered in the Mueller Report. I think Mueller is still working on this part with the FBI and other national security agencies which is why he hasn't left the DoJ yet. All speculation but it feels like something is coming along this line and the Mueller is playing a part.

Rosie

Sean & Lindsey.

How many days a week for a couple of years has this been going on?

Sean can't get someone from the House Judiciary Committee to appear on his show?

His face should be illegal.

I hope he cowers in the Oval Office each night.

The horror story of what Nancy Pelosi is doing is ultimately using TV reality to take down a TV reality actor.

Trump will die by TV ratings as people tune in to watch him go down.

or tune him out because they're bored....that's what he's really afraid of

R103 Just vile.

Lindsey Graham In 1998: The President Can Be Impeached For Not Complying With Congressional Oversight

Hypocritical much, Lindsay?

There should be billboards all over South Carolina showcasing his hypocrisy to make voters cringe that that is their representative and even if they like his conservative posturing they should feel shame how others perceive them.

What's the old saying? How you gain it is how you lose it? I feel like that's going to come into effect with Donald, Mitch, Miz Lindsey and maybe even Vlad.

Washington Post: Schumer calls Trump a ‘get-nothing-done president’ as blame game continues after aborted White House meeting

AP: Lawmaker's censure sought after comments about Trump Jr.

r110, that is neither a saying nor is it something that happens.

ABC: The story behind Pelosi's claim, that White House meeting and Trump's angry comments

[quote]Schumer calls Trump a ‘get-nothing-done president’

That should be "do-nothing," Chuck.

Hope Hicks wears makeup like a drag queen.

South Carolina has two "bachelor" Senators, though Ihe other one is much lower profile and much less flamboyant, and has a higher approval rating as a black Republican.

SC is notorious for having closeted Republican politicians. Remember the former Lt. Governor as a recent, but former, CNN pundit?

All those in the state that keep up with politics in SC figure "Miss" Lindzey is closeted . Republicans joke about it, and still vote for him, but not necessarily enthusiastically. Graham survived earlier primary challenges because any registered voter can vote in either party's primary, but not both on primary election day. Prior, Graham relied on more moderate voters rather than those voting for the more extreme candidates on the right. That will not happen this year. He has Trump all behind him.

The Democrats may have two candidates running for the nomination, both black, and Harrison being the frontrunner. He has not held an elected government office before, but has strong connections to the DNC. He was an aide to Clyburn.

Lindsey has among the largest campaign war chests in the country, with huge PAC money that's been controversial. He will be very difficult to beat.

Democrats are outnumbered in the state, and black voter turnout is not particularly dependable. That noted, if Democrats can trend 5% to 6% better, Graham can be unseated.

SC media has not been tough on Graham.

Come on, Nancy, off you go...

Trump needs an intervention.....

Whose going to do that? Tiffany & Barron?

The rest have proven afraid, ineffectual, or don't want to lose their lucrative gigs.

Is Stephen Miller calling all the shots? And Trump can't realize this hasn't worked well?

USA Today: Pelosi: Trump is 'crying out' for impeachment but House Democrats are not on that path

NYT: Banker Accused of Arranging $16 Million in Loans to Manafort to Gain High-Level Trump Post

Washington Post: Schumer calls Trump a ‘get-nothing-done president’ as blame game continues after aborted White House meeting

I love that that Alabama representative said that Donald Trump Jr. should have been aborted. That is supreme level trolling and also au courant!

I am kind of surprised that Tillerson is a better man than Mueller. I did think that Tillerson was appointed by Putin but. It looks like he did care about his country after all. As I said, certainly better than Mueller.

The walls just keep tumbling down.

Remember McConnell standing there announcing "ITS OVER" in the most authoritarian voice he could muster?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Early on in Trump's 'Presidency' a justified meme was American democracy as a frog being slowly boiled by Putin and his fat dunce.

Long, yearn, as we all do for this sordid freakshow to melt - it's quite delicious, given necessary due process, to think now of the 'President' as the frog being slowly boiled. And knowing it.

May a cartoonist soon seize this moment and portray Trump as a fat slimy warty desperate frog, immersed and panicking, as water around him bubbles. Outside the slowly boiling vessel, at a distance, might be glimpsed Putin, mildly amused.

I didn't click on the Fox link and won't link it here, but it reads: Conway accuses Pelosi of treating her like a 'maid'.

What? Wait, she isn't? I thought after ol' Hope left that someone had to step in to *ahem* iron his pants?

She's so gauche she admits Nancy owned her. Amateur!

What feelings she has left in her heart of plastic were scorched by the white hot scorn of a woman without fucks to give. That's how it works, bitch, when you bow down to misogyny from your masters.

[quote] Trump is 'crying out' for impeachment

If he's "crying out for impeachment" then by golly his stalwart and loyal Republican defenders in the Senate better give him what he wants, and show up the Democrats by calling for impeachment and delivering their votes for it, especially as they have the majority of votes, right? Anything for Dear Leader, right?

Get-nothing-done-president is not accurate. He's getting plenty done and it's not good. His fake presidency is enabling the following:

Installing right wing judges on the Supreme Court and other federal benches Has not filled crucial government posts that contribute to national security disrupt gov't agencies Has installed appointees throughout government who are intended to damage departments rather than enhance them Rolling back banking regulations Blocking gun control measures Rolling back environmental regulations for his friends in big business Blocking climate control measures Alienating allies Breaking treaties as in Iraq nuclear treaty and Paris Climate Accord Increased hate crimes Destroying civility in the US and causing formerly dignified people to swear constantly Other reckless actions like tariffs are really taxes that Americans will pay

And on and on and on.

Sorry, I'll try again:

Get-nothing-done-president is not accurate. He's getting plenty done and it's not good. His fake presidency is enabling the following:

Installing right wing judges on the Supreme Court and other federal benches

Has not filled crucial government posts that contribute to national security disrupt gov't agencies

Has installed appointees throughout government who are intended to damage departments rather than enhance them

Rolling back banking regulations

Blocking gun control measures

Rolling back environmental regulations for his friends in big business

Blocking climate control measures Alienating allies

Breaking treaties as in Iraq nuclear treaty and Paris Climate Accord Increased hate crimes

Destroying civility in the US and causing formerly dignified people to swear constantly

Other reckless actions like tariffs are really taxes that Americans will pay

And on and on and on.

Nancy was a perfect lady not commenting on KAC's spead legs leaving cooze juice on the Oval Office sofas. I wouldn't be so tactful, myself.

I think this is coming to a conclusion very soon. Here is my thought. The only way out of this for Trump is the Nixon Plan i.e. to resign and in exchange receive a pardon for him and his family. Pence would be more than happy to facilitate this approach - especially since it would stop investigations that will significantly damage republicans in general. Trump and others have seen 2020 polling which shows him and the republican party losing both the presidency and the senate. If that happens, he is totally screwed as he will be indicted the minute the new president is sworn in. His bargaining power diminishes the closer we get to the election and the more it become evident that he is going to lose - with or without help from Russia. If he stays much longer, Pence will be left with rubble and will have no chance to put things on firm footing before 2020. Pence would want at least a year or year and a half to cement his position as president and to try to win 2020. He will have to ride out a significant backlash after he pardons Trump and family. We're a year and a half out from 2020 right about now. Other scenarios aren't good for the republicans. With all the investigations, things are only going to get worse for them. Trump will continue to act irrationally and the evidence of their complacency will be made public. The tide isn't going to change. The only way out is for Trump to do a Nixon and do it soon. Wondering if any of them are seeing this. The only other way out is outright suspension of the constitution and delaying the election.

Republicans have SOTUS and plans are underway to override Roe V. Wade. That continues no mater who is president. I get that they would like one more Supreme Court justice but they might be willing to cut Trump and move on with Pence.

R137 A pardon won't save him from state charges. Not only would Trump have to resign... he would need to flee the country.

Breaking...

Oh Kellyanne, just stick with Fox & Friends, Breitbart, and CNN's Chris Cuomo and Jake Tapper. Nobody else of substance finds you interesting or believable.

That's what the WP is essentially saying. Come up with better leaks and they will listen closer.

[quote] Trump will continue to act irrationally and the evidence of [GOP] complacency will be made public

do you mean the evidence supporting the reasons of their complacency will be made public? I'm not meaning to nitpick on semantics, it seems to me that the GOP is being complacent, or accommodating, as far as Hair Furor's antics go, because in their minds they have more to lose by beginning to turn on him now: witness repercussions from Rep. Justin Amash's statement of considering impeachment. They're not afraid to be on "the wrong side of history" maybe because they don't see much future left, or because they're afraid of what will happen to them if they break ranks.

Evidence supporting the reasons could be release of the RNC server hacked emails, receipts of bribery, incriminating photos... juicy stuff.

I'm curious to know who's both likely to have the evidence (i.e. kompromat), and to release the evidence to change public opinion.

The only way Trump will resign is when a) Putin lets him and b) when he can frame it in a way that he can serve the US better by leaving the White House and having his own TV station selling his MAGA hats and Trump steaks from there to his Deplorable viewership which I think is also his retirement idea to preserve his brand and *gag* legacy.

Repubs will support trump to the bitter end because their agenda is not deterred by having a madman as their front. Right wing judges, untold wealth, no taxes, no regulations, and a country where LGBT, women, and minorities know their place. Rich white men strutting about and ruling the country while everyone else cowers in fear. A glorious wet dream for a whole lot of corrupt sickos.

I think Trump resigning would mean GOP defeat. That's why they are fighting tooth and nail to obstruct justice to keep Trump for the re-election. They really believe their gaslighting the country (and also cheating) will get him and the GOP four more years. After Trump "winning" a second term, they won't mind throw Trump to the wolves and push Pence instead.

Was wondering what all the Iran business was about this afternoon, and then the Rosenstein story dropped. Such a failed deflection.

Someone (or several someone’s) has the unredacted Mueller report.

Someones*

Putin pulls the strings. Not just Trump but the GOP as well. Just look at La Senatrix.

Trump CANNOT resign. Putin wants him to stay. The GOP CANNOT distance itself from Trump, because Putin wants Trump to stay and create as much chaos as he can to benefit Putin's agenda.

I believe both Trump and the GOP hope that through some fuckery Putin's hacking in the next election fails and they can blame someone for getting in Putin's way so he's distracted and not takes revenge on them.

R137 In Nixon's case, after the House Judiciary Committee voted to impeach, a group of high ranking Senators, including Senator Goldwater, went to Nixon and told him it is over. Nixon understood, and resigned.

In Trump's case, are McConnell, Miz Lindsey, Grassley, McCarthy, etc., going to visit Trump and persuade him to resign? Will Trump even listen? And these Republican leaders defend and support Trump at every turn, knowing, but not publicly admitting, crimes and constitutional violations are being committed. It is "party first" mentality and protecting their power and financial assets.

What you say could happen, even faster than may be thought. But Trump is not showing mental stability, and such will not be easy. Trump has an authoritarian mindset, and listens to people such as Fox News pundits, Rush Limbaugh, and Stephen Miller. If he could get away with decrees and control all federal law enforcement to retain and illegally grow control, he will. A third of the electorate will support whatever alarming and irrational act he undertakes.

R148, Putin and Mitch McConnell. If the repukes hadn't started this ball rolling with their intent to take over SCOTUS 30 years ago and cheat to win ever since, Putin would not have had a chance.

Don't ever forget it. If it wasn't for corruption from within, Putin would be a backwater despot with no chance to meddle in our affairs.

He IS a backwater despot. He only seems like a bigger deal because of the orange traitor and the other right wing weaklings and fools on the world stage who back Putin. Scum.

[quote]Conway accuses Pelosi of treating her like a 'maid'.

But ya are, Bitch! Ya ARE a maid!

Mitch McConnell is no weakling or fool. He is relentless in his desire to turn back the clock on this country and skew or government to the far right to make sure the 1%s hangs on to their wealth and power while enjoying the sport of destroying progressives.

This fight is over our democracy and rights of our citizens. Many repukes are fools, yes, but the strings are pulled by master puppeteers.

George T. Conway III, is not defending Kellyanne in his tweets. He continues his critical comments of Trump, and re-tweets the critical comments of others.

My view is that George's beef with DJT has an origin of being personal, and it involves the nature of DJT's relationship with Kellyanne in a speculative or non-public way. Plus, he doesn't want to harm business for his elite law firm and the social and organizational circles in which he participates. Giving him added credit, he disdains the reckless behavior and disrespect for the law that is observed from the WH. Maybe, in part, he provides an outlet for Kellyanne when it will be needed.

The burner gets raised a few degrees warmer.

He is doing horrible things to our country. Stacking the courts is one horrible thing and that terrible tax bill...and his cabinet!! Horrible. God! He might actually do a good thing by accident, except Putin guides his every move. McConnell probably relays info from Putin. When will the FBI investigate McConnell?

Is there a picture of him on a spit somewhere? That is where I want to see him.

Will good people ever be able to fix this broken country after Trump is done? I guess I am still hopeful that after Trump is gone, we will also be done with the disgusting Tea Party.

Nancy shuts it down:

Nancy Pelosi on Twitter

“When the “extremely stable genius” starts acting more presidential, I’ll be happy to work with him on infrastructure, trade and other

^^ here's the link

R159, Nancy’s latest tweet is NEXT LEVEL. She is really winning this week and making him look like a complete botch!

omfg Fox is PATHETIC. I looked over to see what they're doing and they're of course leading with Trump childishly and pathetically saying it's actually Pelosi who's the crazy one. So they're trying to recreate the narrative against Trump against her. and their moronic viewers will believe it

I LOVE that Nancy just sent out that tweet. Burn it down Nancy. Don't back down

I know, I know, it's Howard Stern, but on CNN he told Anderson Cooper that Dump's Presidential campaign was just a ploy for ratings and publicity. Donnie Dotard loved "winning".

Stern thinks he detests actually being POTUS.

R159 Brilliant, Nancy! Well played!!

[quote] Stern thinks he detests actually being POTUS.

He does. He's on record with asking John Kasich to conduct the administrative side of "presidenting".

Title without duty. Would we expect anything less?

r125, I believe that Tillerson had one saving grace and that was his running of the Boy Scouts. You cannot do that and be a plutocratic asshole. It takes integrity.

Which brings me to a question. Do we know which Republican Congressmen are also Eagle Scouts.

I ask this as there is some deeply held, almost Marine devotion, to one being an Eagle Scout.

None of them take their oaths of office seriously, I was wondering about their Scouting oaths.

R167 A surprising number of Eagle Scouts in Congress:

Washington Post: Faked Pelosi videos, slowed to make her appear drunk, spread across social media

They are so desperate.

NYT Trump and Pelosi Trade Barbs, Both Questioning the Other’s Fitness

ABC: GOP challenger turns up heat on Trump: 'He would prefer an Aryan nation'

AP: ISO affirmation: Trump has aides vouch that he's 'very calm'

I thought Scoutmasters, like clergy, were all child rapists? Did that suddenly stop being true?

AP: Bank CEO pleads not guilty in bid to get Trump post

THANK YOU r168!

R173 just when you start to forget that we’re living in an episode of the Apprentice he jumps the shark once again.

Jesus Christ, that press event with all those aides lined up to tell the cameras how calm he is! It’s like that press event a year and a half ago where his cabinet all had to praise him. Fuck. It’s so tinpot dictator-y.

His aides look so...so....

I’d check out the poster who was posting up a storm about Nancy’s speech in a “well-meaning way”. Now that we know there was a faked video slowing down her speech.

Lorne Michaels must be pissed that SNL finished its season last weekend.

Just saw this looking for another story

The other story I was searching for - round Billy says he will turn documents and other materials turned up by Mueller's investigation.

Eye on the prize. This meltdown was a distraction.

I don't think this has been posted yet

[quote]I believe that Tillerson had one saving grace and that was his running of the Boy Scouts.

He should've resigned after Trump's speech at that Boy Scouts Jambouree - remember that?

I have a question—tbh, it’s probably batty. If Dump is impeached and removed, could he still run for election? I’m talking running in the primaries, getting the nomination, and being elected—even if he’s impeached and removed? So many scenarios flood my mind about how he will scheme and scheme again to be president, so he can pardon his friends and continue to ignore the rule of law. And I see the Republican Party backing him, even if a few Republican Senators are swayed to remove him.

Not that this is a huge surprise - Trump is now sharing the doctored video of Pelosi. There is a not a smaller more petty man on the planet.

She REALLY gets to him. It's hilarious, but he really cannot deal with her on some fundamental level.

WE HONOR YOU, QUEEN TRUMPLOTTA

What a weird and stupid man. Let me ask my paid staffers, who have all sworn in NDAs to attest that I am perfect beyond belief, to reassure me about my perfection.

Nadler just said on Rachel's show that Mueller wants to testify privately. He's not totally sure but he surmises it's fear of appearing political.

I'm sorry but omg Mueller come the fuck on. I mean I'll take a transcript but damn. The whole world wants to hear from him

Nancy (and Hillary) trigger this asshole like no other people on earth. I think it is because they are both women and much smarter than he is. He cannot deal with it. Nancy has his number and he knows she does. He has no nickname for her because I believe he feels she would respond in a way that would belittle him but, of course, with class.

I know a loud female alcoholic nudist who looks just like Assange.

Oh Jesus Fuck, Mueller, you are in an inescapably political position. Appear political? Oh fuck you, you jackass.

this is 1 area where Comey would be better because he loves the spotlight and wouldn't have minded giving his thoughts on everything. Trump again gets lucky that a principled guy like Mueller wants to stay by the book rather go against norms during this very chaotic and crazy time

I think it's possible that Mueller is afraid of an umbrella tip with plutonium in it.

Just sayin'.

Pres Bone Spurs gets lucky at every turn. Comey goes political only when it hurts Hillary. Mueller, after all we have seen, wants to remain a boy scout while the country crumbles?

Nancy is killing it. She is expertly trolling him and setting up a narrative. I told you all, don't doubt Nancy! She knows what she is doing and she knows how to win.

[quote]. Trump again gets lucky that a principled guy like Mueller wants to stay by the book rather go against norms during this very chaotic and crazy time

I am starting to lean towards Mueller not necessarily wanting to play it by the books but not wanting to topple a GOP president. He pulled a few too many punches during his investigation and now claiming not wanting to appear political when asked to tell the truth makes me think he wants things to stay status quo and not end the presidency - even though Trump is basically ending the presidency as we know it.

r197 or maybe Russian goons cut off a couple of his wife's fingers.

Pardon The Hill, but when it comes to rectal exams, Miss ...........

Washington Post: Trump gives Barr power to declassify intelligence related to Russia probe

r200 Yet he will find a reason not to and it will appear to some Pres Bone Spurs has nothing to hide. These are fucking morons.

R200 Barr is Trump's personal defense attorney abusing the power of his office. Impeach Barr now!

Mueller is a cowardly asshole does not believe in our Democracy. He holds himself above the people...well fuck him.

Why doesn't. Nader impeach William Barr? Barr is a filthy, lying such of shit.

R206 Yes, the GOP still has its hooks in him apparently. If he has any real conscience, he should really become a free agent and take down the criminal organization that the GOP has become.

R206 If the people involved in the Watergate investigation had been as timid and hesitant as Mueller, Nixon would have served out his term.

Repug Womenz luv the new Barr look.

r210, for themselves? Makes sense since abortion is illegal in some states now.

Did you guys hear that Twitter has permanently banned brothers Ed and Brian Krassenstein from Twitter? The #Resistance duo allegedly operated fake accounts and paid to artificIally increase their Twitter audience.

Yet, the Fat Orange Blimp is still on Twitter with his bot army of followers.

Almost every Trump tweet would be immediately followed by a Krassenstein tweet disparaging him. And Trump has that meeting recently with white Jack Dorsey. Connection?

in that theme -- [quote]@realDonaldTrump When is Twitter going to allow the very popular Conservative Voices that it has so viciously shut down, back into the OPEN? IT IS TIME!

The only real news and views are the ones that bow to him and reflect his greatness. He will do everything he can to elevate the "news" media that praises him and try to destroy everything else.

Reuters: Trump campaign views healthcare as a 2020 campaign weapon

CBS: Trump's ghostwriter calls "Art of the Deal" the greatest regret of his life

CNN: Donald Trump falls for Nancy Pelosi's trap

Covered...

OMG, the orange turd's press conference where he makes his sideshow of freaks agree that he's a 'stable genius' was fucking hilarious.

I just can't get over the fact we're watching a man self-destruct in real time.

I can’t get over the fact that, when asked, staffers who weren’t even in the meeting agreed that he been very well behaved.

US companies pay 'almost entirely' for tariffs on Chinese products, new IMF study shows — blowing a ***massive*** hole in Big Dump's favorite justification for the trade:

*trade war

Politico: Giuliani appears to defend sharing a doctored Pelosi video

NYT: Trump shifts stance on Mueller testimony, questions why Democrats want to hear from him

^Sorry, Washington Post

r212....not true. someone may have tried to ban them due to some fabricated story, but I assure you, they are still on twitter. They are hated by the right and there is always somebody trying to smear them...ala Jacob Wohl.

NYT: Analysis: Trump Jumps Into Impeachment Fray With Both Feet

This is the problem....If Mueller doesnt want to testify, SUBPOENA HIM AND FORCE HIM TO TESTIFY. FFS...since when does Congress allow witnesses...especially potentially hostile witnesses...to dictate whether or not they will testify ? This is not some negotiation due to time and or policy....THIS IS NATIONAL SECURITY.

I believe Trump, and the GOP, begging for Trump's impeachment is some silly attempt of reverse psychology.

Nobody will side with Trump and the GOP if all the criminal shit Trump has done so far is out there in the open and, after the House impeaches, the Senate refuses to convict. it will be so bad that not even the media will be have to control the narrative in Trump's and the GOP's favor. The mid-terms show that the voters are pissed and don't trust the Republicans. You honestly they change their mind, because Trump screams witch hunt and Kellyanne and Sarah act all outraged that the Dems are so mean and partisan?

My apologies.

It will be so bad not even the media will be ABLE to control the narrative in Trump's and the GOP's favor. The mid-terms SHOWED that the voters are pissed and don't trust te Republicans.

And meantime...ramping up for a new big War. Yep. Just what we need.

CNN's headline should be corrected to "Trump approves additional deployment to Mideast to serve Saudi Arabia's agenda against Iran."

Jimin Bts wants to be my new FB friend. I’ve been hammered with requests by these fake accounts with obviously fake names. Anyone else getting these too?

Let the Declassification begin! The Mueller probe is over. Now the probe into the Mueller probe commences.

Why do you think Mueller is afraid to testify publicly?

Move to impeach Barr now, House Democrats. File contempt charges as well. Stop the delay game,

You tell us troll R234.

You are about to learn a lot of things that will displeased you, R236. Mueller Time is over.

Lol, doubtful, you little Qanon twerp. You’ve been screaming that shit for months and every time it’s “any day” now and the opposite happens.

Adam Schiff is freaking out.

Adam Schiff is indeed freaking out.

at least link to reputable sites, little Qanon twerp

More like the trolls are freaking out. Hm. Wonder why. Buckle up, kids!

It's Friday before holiday. This seems like a good news dump day - starting say around 4pm Eastern.

R243

I'm a bit unsettled by the power that Trump is giving Barr to declassification of the materials leading up to the the origin of the investigation. The declassification has to be complete. We know folks like Storkz, Page, Brennen, McCabe and Comey all basically said, "Damn, look at the evidence that Trump is working with the Russians. We have to know more. Someone like that can't be president." What we haven't seen is what they were looking at that made them make such statements. There is a lot more evidence than the Steel Dossier out there. What were our allies saying about Trump and Russia? At some point, one of them is going to break - especially if they are being charged by Barr and finally say, we saw Trump communicating back and forth with Putin or we saw Jared paying Russians millions of dollars during the campaign. If I were anyone of the above and somehow the DOJ starts investigating me or starts indicting me, I'd spill every classified detail I knew even though as a former member, I'm still sworn to secrecy. If the DOJ starts going after their own on a witch hunt, then that agreement to keep classified info secret is gone.

OMG we actually have a QAnon person here?? I'm so excited for the chance. Do you mind if I ask you some questions about your life? I am so curious how you live. Thank you!

Shoe Shining

Rollie Pollie, Turtle, and La Sénatriçe

Trump gave Barr complete control of the declassified F-B-I material for him only. What that means is Fat Ass will cherry pick details and spin it in favor of Trump.

Barr is compromised.

Hope 'Trump Shoeshiner' might catch on.

r245. This will be another Benghazi where the people who looked into Trump's private business (the reason will very likey remain a secret) ganged up on dear, innocent Trump because he dared to oppose the pant suit demon!

I imagine the Fox News Media will call it something like Deep State Invenstigation where super evil and super incompetent Hillary Clinton needed to be protected at all cost, but thankfully the good guys won this time.

It will backfire, the Barr attempt to cherry pick the evidence of the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation.

It was national security, it needed to be done. It was by the book all the way. Oh sure, the dumpster fire will shriek and huckabeest will shriek and Kellyann Conjob will shriek and they'll all lie and... keep their base. Which is not enough to re-steal the White House.

[quote]Jimin Bts wants to be my new FB friend.

Hold out for Suga or Jungkook, instead.

And now in an act of desperate projection....

NBC: Trump questions whether Pelosi is 'the same as she was,' apparently doubting her mental fitness

CBS Philly: Speaker Pelosi On War Of Words With President Trump: ‘I’m Finished With That’

Trump and Mel are inflight now. Thoughts and prayers that they get there safe.

Please Satan, if you can hear me...take back your minions by any means necessary. nema

She's a boxer. She jabs, connects and dances back to let him flail away at nothing for a while.

I. Love. This. Woman.

Fuck McConnell, he's a bull in a china shop compared with her. Nancy is the Master of the Game.

Reuters: Trump says will consider pardons for U.S. soldiers accused of war crimes

and insulting every other soldier that upheld honor and duty during their service. What a fucking moron. May I remind these disgraces that accepting a Presidential pardon is an admission of guilt. Take your chances with a court martial and be gone from further duty in protecting people.

This isn't political at all, nope.

Maybe some enterprising chef can grind up some fugu into his hamburger during the visit.

He's going to be in hog heaven having all those short people bowing incessantly to his fat ass.

The amount of snorting on that plane ...

R252, from your keyboard to all that is good. Maybe this will be the breaking point and a "deep throat" will finally start to leak tapes, recordings, memo's, everything and anything that will "Nixon" Trump and his crooked administration.

I wish Trump’s plane would just fall into the ocean and disappear forever. I’m so mentally exhausted by his antics and fucking high drama. He really does act like a spoiled diva queen. I can’t believe how anyone in his base could see ever him as having a masculine “daddy” energy. Nope. Never.

Is Sarah going on the flight? What are they going to do when she release one of those famous ole Huck farts?

Miss Lindzey speakes of war with Iran, Venezuela, and N. Korea.

There is no one that is a bigger panderer to the mlitary industrial complex than Miss Lindzey.

Is there a psychological term for somebody who's got a military fetish. That's our Lindzey!

r255 that's unfair of House Speaker Pelosi to conclude a war of words, a meeting of minds before her target/opponent has time to order his brains from a butcher.

Reuters: Defying Congress, Trump sets big arms sales to Saudis, UAE

Friday, holiday weekend. Trump in the air. Now would be a great time to dump some real dirt on him.

Reuters: Trump appeals ruling allowing banks to hand his financial records to Congress

This Barr CIA/FBI scenario is the type of thing that could bite Trump in the ass and hard. I'd love to see the IC leak some nasty stuff on Trump or Barr. Last time a president pissed off the CIA/FBI this bad, his wife ended up holding his head in her lap in Dallas.

r263, The reason Trump threw Assange under the bus with the 17 new indictments under the Espionage Act was to PREVENT AND CRIMINALIZE the next Deep Throat.

No R264. The democrats would be blamed for tampering with the plane. What has to happen is that during one of his rally's, he needs to collapse in front of his deplorables and have a fatal heart attack or stroke out. The Democrats will still be blamed by the weirdo conspiracy theorists, but it has to be in front of his crowd.

Q anon would still blame Hillary Clinton killing him somehow in one of her pant suit disguises.

R270/R272

[quote]What has to happen is that during one of his rallies, he needs to collapse in front of his deplorables and have a fatal heart attack or stroke out.

My own preference would be for both him and Putin to succumb to a collapse of the stage they're sharing—and that it emerges that the stage was made by Trump's specifications of Chinese aluminum. Other stage-sharers, of course, will be uninjured by great good luck.

Jesus, R272.

So Trump’s tax returns should be classified because (insert inane reason here.) But information about the methods and sources of our and our allies’ intelligence agencies monitoring of the Russians should be declassified so Putrid Putin can get a peek? Do I have that right?

Up until last night I thought Barr was just an amoral partisan shill. Now I’m sure he must be compromised by the Russians.

Also, every time I hear about Veklselberg I think about the White House CFO and wonder how he is doing.

NYT: ...intelligence officials believe the danger of the move by Mr. Trump, was that it could endanger the agency’s ability to keep the identities of its sources secret. The most prominent of those may well be a person close to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia who provided information to the C.I.A. about his involvement in Moscow’s 2016 election interference. The concern about the source, who is believed to be still alive, is one of several issues raised by Mr. Trump’s decision to use the intelligence to pursue his political enemies.

Better link for Vekselberg

Well, I am Deep Throat, in a Linda Lovelace kind of way.

You can't deep throat Trump, R282. His cock is the size of a button mushroom.

I would not be surprised to see Wray or Coates resign over this. Or they both stay on and defy the president/Barr and say if you want the information, you're going to have to fire me to get it.

Nancy has caused our already unhinged, mentally challenged WH resident to lose his shit. The fake video of her circulating, that he retweeted, and his "war of words" on her highlight this. His punches are not landing. He doesn't know what to do or how to respond to her.

Trump invites a man dressed as a border wall to join him on stage at a rally. The Donald is a con man and a performance artist. It's what he does best. He knows how to push hot buttons when he has an audience of stupid assholes. And the deplorables will continue to love him even as he makes their lives worse.

He also got his ass handed to him by Mayor Pete. I expect him to start getting really ugly, in coded words of course, with Mayor Pete is he is still doing well in the polls.

I think he is also freaking out about Biden. On one hand, I think he fears him the most. On the other hand, I think his handlers feel Biden is the most beatable due to his age.

Don't worry R269. I'm sure he took his 20%.

R288, the whole reason trump has been declassifying and going to war wit the Intel agencies since the very beginning of his presidency is to dismantle our Intel gathering capabilities at Putin's behest.

as for a much earlier question about why Deutsche Bank kept loaning Trump $$$ even when he was a demonstrably bad risk, it was probably because DB knew that Trump had backing from the Russian oligarchs connected to Putin. They could write off Trump as a loss and make triple what he owed them from his backers. They were laundering, too.

A lot of what Trump is up to is being orchestrated by advisors with unpronounceable names, This is like watching a chess match and the board is being dominated by the powerful people who put Trump in the White House House. Barr is getting some of his strategy from the same set of advisors.

When it's all over, we've GOT to take Russia down several million pegs. Not through anything drastic like war, but enough sanctions to choke a bear.

r291, drop Andy Dick behind enemy lines and build a wall, because that landmass will remain toxic for a very long time.

I imagine Barr will start using buzzwords like "overreach" and "Deep State" to establish the new investigation's agenda.

Why does Graham keep using this pic for his primary Twitter profile? That confirmation process was nine or so months ago.

r244 posts the tags of people she's blocked so she can read what they've said. She's the paranoid lunatic frau who stalks people across the board and tries to identify who they are in real life with overt social engineering techniques. She should be IP blocked.

Politico: Intel chief warns Barr could imperil national security by declassifying documents

NYT: Potential Clash Over Secrets Looms Between Justice Dept. and C.I.A.

Washington Post: Trump to place Ken Cuccinelli at the head of the country’s legal immigration system

Oh is that what that's about? Thanks, R295, I've been wondering. The point of sending them to invisible land is NOT having to read their annoying posts anymore so.. um.. yeah. That's weird.

And who is the demented frau? What is her issue or cluster of personality disorders?

Just curious, obviously I don't care about her in any real way.

Is it possible that by pushing all the news of the day into this one thread people who don't read this thread because it's so massive won't see the news stories?

It seems there is less news and political discussion on the DL in general, although there is plenty in this thread and a couple of others. I wonder if some of that can be attributed to everything getting jammed into this one, huge, blazingly fast moving thread. All the stories just whiz by although they would, normally, have merited their own threads.

This is still a Gay Gossip and POLITICS site and the Mueller investigation ended two months ago.

It was like Trump overload for the first two years so I like pushing the Trump craziness to select threads.

The Barr story should not be crammed in this thread. It's very important and could have serious consequences for the 2020 election being.

This is unprecentented for any Presidential administration.

We're called "tag chasers", r267.

I can't see the spooks voluntarily turning over their intel, no matter what those traitors demand.

They know more than we do how badly fat Donnie and round Bill are compromised.

So is Putin still hunting for the names of moles inside the Kremlin? Is that what this endless demand for more and more and more secret national security information is about?

Hasn't the Billion Dollar Loser-Traitor already seen the names and given them up to Vlad? Was the National Security community ready for this shit and they've been keeping it from him for two and a half years? That would be so great. I hope they scrub all trace of the names and tell the fucktard to pound sand.

Trump is initiating a lot of "unprecedented actions" in the past six to 8 months. His behavior is more extreme than ever. A lot of people, especially pundits say this indicates how desperate he is and that "the noose is tightening." These are some of the same people who urged us to "wait until the Mueller report is turned in..." The fact is Trump is the same now as he was in 2016. He has not changed. He is just completely unleashed. No restraints. If anything this is symptomatic of overconfidence. he is just as dangerous today as he was two years ago. He is simply more open. The Media needs to stop reporting every hiccup as if it's significant. I'm tired of the anecdotal bullshit. He needs to go. He is a danger to national security. If Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham continue to block, they need to be removed. At this point we don't need any more evidence. We don't need a damned thing to cite him for abuse of power, obstruction of justice and possibly conspiring with a foreign adversary to commit fraud and interfere with our PResidential election. The plan has to focus on removal. And that includes members of the Senate and the House who might be part of this filth.

You are right, #306. We waited for the end of the Mueller report and nothing. I can hardly contain my disgust that traitors trump, mcconnell, barr etc are still in their posts. It seems that nothing will remove them now until the 2020 elections. Far too long, they damage our country every day.

The whole country will require treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder when they are gone. Everyone but the 27% hardcore deplorable cockroach population. And to think that when trump is gone even they will benefit by the order and sanity Democrats will finally restore.

r307, if you haven't taken enough time to learn the culture of this site to the degree that you don't even know how to post reference, you should not be posting here. You're the kind of person who butts into other people's private conversations at restaurants.

I don't think any one expected an entire political party to succumb to breath-taking corruption and greed. We've allowed oligarchs to have too much control. I understand people get frustrated with the Dems, esp NY reps who have a constituency of Wall Street and fat cats but this is no time for false equivalency. The damage done to this country is 99-1 at the hands of the GOP.

This is a good reminder to never trust conservatives. I get some gays are "conservative" but I wonder wtf that means in their minds. I think many of them are contrarians and just don't want to be Dems because "all gays are expected to be" or whatever BS they tell themselves. Conservatism is cancerous. It serves very little purpose expect it lives in platitudes and a world that will never exist. Conservatives the world over are bad actors and cause pain and harm.

R295 Can you explain a bit more about tagging. On a couple of my posts, the next post is just RXXX referring to the post above and on one of my posts the following post is RXXX/RXXX both of which were mine. At first I interpreted these as "I agree with what the post above said" but maybe its something more??? I'm hardly a troll or bot.

Kushner gets 800 million in federally backed loan.

Fuck off R308. I know how to post references, that was a typo.

You're the one who butted in with your nasty attitude. You must be one miserable old snooze.

Hey, r311, go post some of those stories for everyone to read. Don't bury them in here.

R313, Done

Our president smells like old man farts. He is gross. Fat, ugly, super gross neck. If you look at him and take away his orange dusting, he looks old as fuck!

Biden looks vibrant next to our fat, old president.

are we annoyingly going to have a quiet 3 day holiday weekend? that seems to be the pattern though things also tend to pop off whenever Trump takes a foreign trip.

So, Facebook and Twitter won't remove the doctored Pelosi video because "being fake" isn't against their rules. How about defamation or slander? Is that against their stupid rules? How is Trump not banned from Twitter yet? Let's try to get him to say that real women don't have dicks. Not like that would be a stretch for him. They'll have to ban him then, no?

With Trump there is NEVER a quiet 3 day holiday. We get so swamped by scandalized news items that the real news almost disappear in that stream of news items. I believe that is a coordinated effort by the GOP and Trump who is happy to provide distraction while the GOP puts their agents in place to fuck the US even more.

Call me crazy, but I believe the GOP (and their 1% supporters) the world, as we know it, is going to end and that's why they don't give a fuck about hiding their greed and agenda anymore, because they believe there's "no tomorrow". What they do right now is like what the common folk do at Black Friday: Run into the store and grab whatever they can. They all play for time to get some more stuff and make sure they get quick access to more stuff (like the final resources of earth?) and have a quick exit.

Thanks r314.

He'll be terrified that's his cult members might have undirected thoughts. Fux, Rush "oxy boy" Limbaugh, whatsherface the vicious blonde who isn't Coultergeist, Coultergeist, Bowtie Tucker, Hannity probably went with him, they'll all be very busy tweeting, posting, showing up on each other's shows pretending they give a fuck about veterans and bringing the orange traitor drama.

So predictable it's devoid of drama.

In 2017 a lot of political observers started a list of all the Trump wrong doing related to his Presidency. All the outrageous, Non-Obama crap he tracked into the White House. We need to keep that list up to date. I wish there was a way to post bullet points of all his terrible shit. For example, He has been reaching for the Intelligence network ever since he took office. Repeatedly. His support of White Supremacy, his backing Saudi murderers, etc. There has been so much, we're in danger of forgetting, losing track. Are there any websites who track him in this regard?

NYT: Barr Got More Power to Review the Russia Inquiry. Here’s What We Know About Its Origins.

Diversions of war. Invade Venezuela? Venezuela has not attacked the U.S. or another country. Sure Venezuela has political turmoil, but attacking them militarily is very irresponsible to advocate. Don't trust any Senator with compromised loyalties, including foreign.

Washington Post: Giuliani meets with former diplomat as he continues to press Ukraine inquiries

OP, I've seen plenty of complaints, sometimes even somewhat rational complaints, about these ongoing threads. But I really appreciate you and the OG OP doing this. There is no place else that gives me what these threads do: facts, innuendo, rumor, hope, despair, drama. I'm 61 and I've never lived through a more perilous and fraught time for our democracy (not to mention other countries). These threads document so much that is vital.

It really is a fascinating, living historical document.

R322, follow @amy_siskind on twitter. She wrote a book detailing the lies and corruption based on a list she kept. She is working on the second volume now, I think.

READ AND LEARN....Its all right here...laid out step by step....and we are watching and allowing it to happen right before our eyes.

WHY ARE WE ALLOWING HISTORY TO REPEAT ITSELF ?

I agree, R329. I think I put a lot of responsibility for our "allowing" this on the Media, because they can set the public agenda and influence Congress and the public more than any other force out here. They keep treating this like business as usual. They approach Trump as a temporary bump in the road and at some vague future point we will get back to "normal." They are either blind, ignorant, or weak and corrupted. They are chiefly responsible for normalizing Trump. We get anecdotal reports of his latest outrage and his latest policy pronouncements, and everything is treated with the same level of "excitement" ....for want of a better word. So Trump declaring yet another emergency, and Trump calling Pelosi or Warren names gets the same emphasis. We're becoming desensitized when in reality all of us, including the Media ought to be running around as if our hair were on fire. Because it is. There is not nearly enough outrage out here. And because of the way the Media plays it, a lot of sheeple don't see the dangers of sharing intelligence, or weapons technology, or anything else with foreign governments who are not our allies and in many cases are our adversaries. If the Media pounded away at how evil and dangerous Putin is, a lot more people would get it. Instead we have allowed Trump's side t o frame the discussion, peddle lies, foment division and perpetuate the myth that there a re significant numbers of people who agree. The Media talks about the Republican Party and the Democratic Party, and covers the declared candidates as if it's politics as usual when it isn't. Far from it.

And there you have it.

Facebook acknowledges the Nancy Pelosi video is fake... declines to remove it.

I'll also add that the people , the forces behind Trump ( who really is a puppet) are moving very fast. It is hard to keep up with all the developments on a daily or weekly basis.

Trump has managed to take down the head of the FBI twice-McCabe and Comey and seems he's set his sights on Wray and he's going after the CIA now. There seems to be no stopping him. He is going after Clinton still. He says she belongs in jail. He's digging up all kinds of dirt on Biden. He's out of control-call me a Mary but he's so crazy and nobody is stopping him-if anything, he's being enabled-that things are scary. I admit I don't have the answers but Mueller is chickenshit if he doesn't publicly testify. And soon. The Democrats have already lost valuable time by letting Trump and Barr keep saying "no collusion no obstruction" I believe that we will eventually come to the knowledge there was conspiracy and obstruction.

As was said upthread, I need PTSD treatment. After all this is said and done, will we ever think the same way -in truth , justice and the American way. Not that we have thought like since a few years after WW11. I firmly believe that Trump may be stupid but he is also a true narcissistic psychopath and may have senile dementia or dementia secondary to syphilis.

Hi R331.

The big honking truth that the media is afraid to say is that the whole Republican Party is deranged, has been for decades. Has absolutely nothing to offer the part of the country that isn't super rich, and never will. They need that Both Sides Do It narrative to keep going, and it's completely untrue. The Democratic Party has a lot of faults and divisions, but actually does see real problems and tries to come up with solutions for those problems. The Republican Party sees only one problem: the Rich aren't Rich Enough.

Mitch McConnell is as evil as Trump. He's just quieter about it and actually has knowledge and skills and competence.

But R335, ya know...both sides.

Meanwhile that Fox fuck, Mark Levin, just put out a book on how biased the media is...toward liberals. Oh, the fucking irony. So, the publishing industry is also complicit.

The media is a manipulation tool first. All this "oh, they do this for ratings!" is just a cover. They fuck with people's minds deliberately to keept us afraid, angry, concerned, etc. Easy prey for the snake oil salesmen out there offering us solutions for problems and issues the media made us aware of.

Hi, R334!

Miss Lindzee, shut the fuck up about war. Even if you manage to help make it happen, the below kind of romance will NEVER happen for you, dream queen.

Right now the Media is hyping a "feud" between Pelosi and Trump. He attacked her. He had a video of her altered to look like she was drunk. It's all over facebook. WTF does the media cast this as a feud. Why a re they framing Barbara Boxer's comments as another viewpoint when she is explaining why something he just did is grounds for impeachment. He is using all the power of the federal government, the Department of Justice, the CIA, the FBI and out Defense Intelligence networks to investigate his political opponents. He is selling our missile technology and armaments to the Saudis. He has exposed important assets in OUR intel network to reprisals from the Russians. he is making our future intelligence gathering capabilities extremely difficult. This man is committing crimes in plain sight. WTF is Congress. Start going after the media and tell them to call this what it is and stop laying games.

Not to sound like a troll, but it's interesting that Pelosi stepped up the moment it became clear that Mueller isn't going to be the knight in shining amor to save America with his public testemony.

I think some of us underestimate how the Dems play the optics game. Pelosi trolled Trump at the right moment and made him look pathetic and defensive with this press conference where the White House staff had to reassure the public that Trump is sane. Like, WTF?

sorry, testimony.

CNN headline was something like "tRump falls for Pelosi's trap".

Why the ever loving f*ck did they need to call it a TRAP?

Can you imagine Trump reading headlines that he got owned by Pelosi?

r322, here ya go:

I think Pelosi made her comments this week following the reportedly raucous meeting about whether to impeach. Now she has more backing than before. Trump and right wing attacks on her have rallied the House Dems behind her even if they don't all agree on impeachment yet.

BTW Pelosi's daughter said she doesn't even drink so that edited video idea is even dumber. The deplorable base is dumb as hell though and probably can't fathom the idea that the right wing attack on Pelosi being supposedly senile is only in response to her rightfully questioning Trump's mental state

I love how trolls get so pissed at these threads they're constantly FFing the OP. It shows they're bothered. Make sure to WW the OP to keep these threads going!

If Barr is compromised as appears, names of US intelligence operatives, and their co-ops elsewhere, along with summaries of their activities, could end up in Putty's hands. Agents will not be safe.

Hold Barr in contempt, and impeach. Don't procrastinate on this, House Democrats.

The media is treating this too casually.

NYT: Trump’s Targeting of Intelligence Agencies Gains a Harder Edge

Media-ite: Hillary Clinton: Trump and His ‘Cronies’ Spreading ‘Sexist Trash’ Online About Pelosi

Impeaching Barr does no good unless at least half a dozen Republican Senators also drop dead.

Thoughts and prayers, r352.....

The House can hold Barr in contempt and impeach him. Do it anyway, knowing the Republican Senate will not remove him. Barr lied to Congress under oath.

Get all on record. Make him wear a Scarlet letter.

I think Plump is using the tarrifs to wipeout American markets in favor of his overseas clients.

It benefits China and other countries’ leaders which which he has ties.

He first took out that ad in ‘87 after coming back from a trip in the East.

This weakens American markets and makes them dependent on him for aid. Especially farmers.

Very common tactics seen in the third world.

For R330,

"Do you understand, gentlemen, that all the horror is in just this; that there is no horror".

Aleksandr Kuprin

[quote] . Make him wear a Scarlet letter.

What the two of us do is prviate, and no one else's business, though I retain the right to flaunt it.

What does this story about the House agreeing to stay their subpoenas on Trump's financial records mean? I’m terrified that with every single hour that passes, records are getting shredded or altered.

It's really, really scary times. I hope we make it.

R358, once something exists in digital form, it’s incredibly hard to destroy.

Washington Post: Trump’s allies insist he is winning in feud with Pelosi. Her backers say she showed up the president.

Barr dines at Trump hotel.

So do many other high profile Trump Republicans who fear confrontations at other area public restaurants.

CNN: President Trump's lawyers, House committees reach agreement to hold off on enforcing Deutsche Bank, Capital One subpoenas

I literally think this fight will be going to the bitter end: the End being Markets crashing, farms failing from a combination of tarrifs and migrant workers driven from the land, American manufacturing and and Consumer goods similarly destroyed by Dump's Tarrifs, And our precious countryside a wasteland destroyed by his disastrous enviromental policies. In otherwords, all the Deplorables suffering the Orange Madman's lunatic governance- And us along with them. Oh yes, and right around then, Democrats will have FINALLY found their Balls to Impeach Trump!

Don’t forget that fat orange shit-eater did this. Basically a full page NYT ad about the Central Park Five that requested the Death Penalty but might as well of said “KILL THEM NIGGERS!”

r365....dont forget that he ran that ad AFTER they were cleared of the crime....I say again, AFTER they were cleared.

R364, Why do you keep pushing for impeachment when you know the republicans in the senate won't convict Trump?

This shit blaming the democrats has to stop! Just another stupid smear campaign that keep people from voting in 2020.

I swear the people screeching for impeachment, knowing very well it will fail, are Trump trolls and Russian bots.

They killed me for a lot less!

Perhaps Barr uses the Trump Hotel for quickies?

the Democrats need to get back to hammering Trump with the "cover-up" label. The week started out brilliantly that way but the last 2 days everyone's been focusing on Trump and the conservatives trying say Pelosi is senile. She successfully tagged Trump with "cover-up" so I hope they don't blow it by forgetting about that. Keep the label on him.

"Crooked Hillary" stuck unfortunately. Let's get "Trump cover-up" to stick since it's actually accurate

Dear Been

That's the one thing , R370, that Trump is brilliant at. He's able to change the narrative and turn it into his benefit. We're no longer talking about how masterful Nancy Pelosi was and the temper tantrum he threw. We're talking about Nancy Pelosi "slurring" her words. The only way to let the wind out of his sails is to ignore him.

R372, he’s not “brilliant” at ANYTHING.

I agree, he is not brilliant at a damn thing. The narrative bullshit only works for his idiotic base. No one else forgets what a piece of shit he is.

Trump is not intellectually intelligent but he's good at getting attention, creating a narrative and changing/distracting from narratives he doesn't like. Those are his only strengths.

The last 2 days the media is not talking about Trump's attempts to cover up all investigations and the release of pertinent information to both Congress and the public. If you've noticed, they're now focused on Trump vs. Pelosi, rather than what Pelosi said. They're creating a false equivalence. On Tuesday and most of Wednesday, Trump was caught scrambling after he got tagged with the "cover up" label. Thursday to now it's all Trump vs. Pelosi. The media is always going to fuck up but the Democrats need to keep talking about Trump covering shit up. They need to remind the viewers of this every time they appear on tv from now on. Drill it in to viewer's minds

Just wanted to come on here and marvel at how fucking YUUGE that traitor has gotten in the last two years

I have made it a point to avoid looking at his anus hole face but I missed the FF button and had to see him. Goddam, he is blowing up like a blimp!

That yellow orange skin, the raccoon eyes, the bulging gut, the jowls - he looks like shit.

As fugly on the outside as he is on the inside

The media shifts from substance content to the latest Trump antic, regardless if it pertinent to the more serious matters. Such has entertainment value and captures the attention of the audience full of low information viewers. It's done for ratings. And, of course, doing investigative journalism would actually require competencies and real work.

[quote]Trump is not intellectually intelligent but he's good at getting attention

Getting attention isn't difficult when you got a Russian social media army and the Bernie Sanders' New Left repeating your every verbal fart.

The media still treat the Mueller report as something that hasn't really settled anything because one sides disagrees. They endlessly repeat how one side doesn't see obstruction or collusion so nothing is settled. Even with Rep Amash coming out saying HE actually read the report and most of his colleagues didn't as, "Well, it is only one out of how many?" and leave it at that as if THEY can't read and haven't read.

Mueller really fucked up by not recommending indictment. Barr knew he wouldn't because he is a "boyscout" and all.

Trump is a media whore. It's his only real talent. He's just waiting until this is over when he thinks Putin is going to let him build Trump Moscow. He doesn't believe that Tish James is going to indict him and his family on a RICO indictment and he's going to lose everything. He has a limited feral intelligence which allows him to believe in magical thinking.

R101, The phrase "the DoJ agreed to give Schiff..." should give any Democrat pause. Sounds like another "lack of finding" punt.

He isn't running anything- Bannon and Miller are as well as, no surprise, Putin. Congrats America, you have a Russian dictator who is effectively our President.

IMHO it's important to point out that Trump and his associates can only control the narrative of his followers. They are the ones who cling on the fake news of the fake Pelosi clip. The rest knows that it's a pathetic attempt to smear Pelosi. You know, like the infamous "Puppet? No, you're the puppet!" retort from Trump at one of the debates.

Nancy has really made this nut go bonkers. He has lost it which means he is going to make mistakes being in the unstable mental capacity he is in. They are going after her hard now which is fine since Nancy can take it and has played this to perfection.

The sad thing is that Trump has already made a million mistakes and yet none of them got him pushed out of the White House. Anybody else without Putin's and the GOP's backing would not only be out of the White House but either in jail or hanging from a tree.

[quote]If Barr is compromised as appears, names of US intelligence operatives, and their co-ops elsewhere, along with summaries of their activities, could end up in Putty's hands. Agents will not be safe.

Like that matters.

Trump will gamble on another win in 2020. With the help of the media and a massive smear campaign against Hillary Clinton (that the new left was part of), gerrymandering, voter fraud and very likely hacked voting machines Trump slipped through in 2016.

The same shit will happen again. This fight is far from over and so far it seems democrats can't get any legislation passed that will make voting fairer and safer. Republicans know they won't win a single election anymore if the voting process is fair and just, that's why they fight dirty.

Why did the Democrats make whatever agreement they made with Trump's lawyers to hold off on getting the financial documents that they subpoenaed and that the court just affirmed that they have the absolute right to have? WTF is wrong with them?

R388, I agree. If the documents are part of another investigation, or are sealed trial documents that might be a reason to hold off. Other than that there is no reason to negotiate with those fuckers.

I'd love for Mueller to testify. Of course my fantasy is that Mueller comes in, and condemns Trump and clearly his criminality. I'd love to hear Mueller say, "He conspired with our enemies, he obstructed justice at least 10 times, and he is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. Fry him!" But that won't happen. And I've been saying for months and months that we do not need a Mueller report.

All the temporizing, "Wait for the Mueller report..." was bullshit. It was a flawed strategy. Trump has committed crimes, and continues to, he has abused power, has compromised our national security, and personally enriched himself and his allies with irresponsible tariff and trade decisions, weakened our relationships with NATO allies, and endangered the economic health and stability, and the environmental health and stability of our country. There is enough legitimate grounds to impeach Trump RIGHT NOW without Mueller.

I think Pelosi is doing the right things. All these investigations are preliminary to drawing up articles of impeachment. The battlelines are very transparent: If Trump successfully goads the Democratic House to impeach him, he can play victim, and use it to rally his base. Why? Because the Senate will not act. He can say it was a partisan witch hunt. Trump was planning to use the whole Impeachment thing as a political strategy against the Democrats to try to win back the House. Nancy is not stupid.

Where the Dems have fucked up is not taking these defiant assholes like Mnuchin, and Barr and holding them in contempt and sanctioning, fining them, detaining them if necessary. The Dems need to respond faster and stop giving them second chances. They don't get to negotiate. When the House says, "We want the full, unredacted report..." and Barr has the audacity the arrogance to say, Well, I won't give you that, but here is what I will give you...." They ought to kick his ass. He doesn't get to set the terms.

And BTW, those who believe Trump is not very smart are wrong. He lacks the fluency with political language. Washington is not his natural environment. If you look at the dregs of society that flit around him at Mar-a-lago, that's more his milieu. Shady characters like mobsters, oligarchs, guys like Sater, and Derapaska, etc. But he possesses a low cunning, and is street smart in all the ways he needs to be, to have survived this long. One thing he has perfected iis to appear to be impulsive and spontaneous when in fact he is very calculating.

Trump, stable genius, sticks it to Joe, calls him "Bidan a low IQ individual".

Biden has always had a reputation for being stupid. When he first ran for President thirty-two years ago, his Democratic opponents called him out for it. He was a joke way back then, and he is a superannuated Throttlebottom now.

My main concern about Biden is that in the end he's not a fighter. He tries to conciliate. Some big parts of the Republicans' agenda you just can't compromise over.

R391 Give who Americans would vote for (ahem Trump), being dumb may be a plus! But Biden has worse flaws than being dumb.

Lindsey Graham was just on Watter's World, of course on Fox. He is propagandizing almost daily on this network. They are going full force attacking U.S. intelligence services.

This guy, or gal if you prefer, wants to scapegoat intelligence agency investigators. All this is for the pleasure and benefit of Trump & Putin. Barr cannot be trusted based on his lies to Congress and ongoing deception. When Barr says there was spying, he projecting, and is now the ultimate spy for you know who.

Agree, Dems in the House need to stop pussyfooting around the capitol and adhere to their declared deadlines and not let Mnuchin, Barr, etc. keep defying and stalling.

The corporate media needs to stop treating this as entertainment for ratings, and their executives need to show patriotism and push for disclosures of truth. Chuck Todd and Dana Bash, among others, are not cutting it.

Declare "Impeachment Inquiry" NOW!

Impeachment proceedings will re-elect Trump.

Being weak, Boris, will re-elect Trump.

I was all for impeachment until Nancy explained it to me. She's right. The house will impeach, the senate will not convict, and Trump will declare victory.He will be able to say he is innocent and it was all the Democrats that were out to get him after all. Nixon got impeached at the beginning of his second term. There was nowhere for him to go. The answer now is to mobilize and beat the shit out of him next year. His approval will remain at 40% if we continue to investigate.

Speaking of weak, the Boris shtick is played out. The Mueller probe is over, R396. No American citizen was indicted for colluding with Russia. Give it up already! You aren't going to win 2020 by trying to un-do the 2016 election.

Boris sounds concerned.

[quote] He will be able to say he is innocent and it was all the Democrats that were out to get him after all.

And who exactly will believe that beyond his Deplorables and FOX News viewing base after the House Impeachment hearings and investigation showed all the receipts?

The fact is that Impeachment is a no confidence vote in Trump that becomes official record while The Senate's non-conviction becomes official record as well. And after the general public knows what a criminal traitor Trump is - thanks to the impeachment investigation and hearings - they will see the GOP as co-conspiritors of Trump's crimes. And the Democratic Party can use that very narrative for the 2020 election.

The House recently passed the Equality Act that will very likely die in the Senate. Why did the House even bother if it all hinges upon The Senate going along? Doesn't this make the House look bad, too if the Senate doesn't approve? Will it DIVIDE the country, too?

Dems need to have faith in their OWN BASE. It's bigger than the deplorable base and much angrier! Dems need to find their backbone and learn to use their base to demand justice.

AP: Impeach Trump? Most 2020 Democrats tiptoe past the question

I believe a timid response to Trump's legit crimes and not painting the Republican Party as his co-conspiritors will get Trump reelected, because the general public will lose faith in the Dems and the political system. Pelosi and the others throwing shade will not be enough.

[quote]Nixon got impeached at the beginning of his second term.

No, Nixon was not impeached. The House Committee voted for it. But Nixon resigned before there was a House vote that would have impeached..

NYT: Trump’s Targeting of Intelligence Agencies Gains a Harder Edge

One of these days, the CIA just ain't gonna give a fuck.

R403 Exactly, impeachment is the simplest way to fight and deter their lying narrative! Just scattered investigations by different House committees won't stop their ONGOING CONSPIRACY spearheaded by Fascist Barr to turn the blame on the Dems and make Trump the victim!

So when does the IC get fed up with this shit and start dropping the hammer on round Billy and fat Donnie?

Because I can't see the spooks being too happy about being used as a political weapon.

And for those who don't think this is serious, this dick-tator wannabe is trying to shitcan the office of personnel management. You know, the agency that hires and fires and promotes all civilian government workers.

He is trying to get his lackeys in at even the lowest levels of government.

R408 The biggest fear is some in the IC are deplorables and could be seduced by Barr with promise of more money or power.

Putty must have a large portfolio of dirt on Sénatrices, turtles, Gym Js, and Rollie Pollies.

[quote]And who exactly will believe that beyond his Deplorables and FOX News viewing base after the House Impeachment hearings and investigation showed all the receipts?

Low information voters. All they will hear is the media say that Trump was found not guilty by the Senate. They, of course, won't go into the fact that it was political on the part of the corrupt Repugs in the Senate or how it would be an absolute end to actual democracy in America. They'll just report that he's NOT GUILTY and let it stand at that. A whole lot of Americans will know nothing else. Plus, of course, the media will report every single lying tweet by Trump proclaiming his innocence and the Democrats' witchhunt, etc.

The sad thing is, if Nixon were president today with this Repug party, he would have served his full term without repercussions. There are no decent Repugs anymore.

Perhaps why there are no black women working in the DJT administration.

Stop saying the Dems are doing nothing, That sounds like prop

In actuality, it is Mitch McConnell who is doing nothing by blocking all the legislation sent from the House.

R397 Trump will declare victory regardless. If the House does not impeach him, he'll say they wanted to, they tried but they knew they couldn't because there was nothing there.

So the House's decision on whether to impeach should not rest on how Trump will spin things. HE ALWAYS SPINS EVERYTHING

His rabid, dumb ass base is already going to be fired up to vote for him again regardless of what the House does. They need to put a stain on his presidency. This is not the same as Clinton who got impeached for lying about an affair. This is an actually serious matter. If the House can hold some hearings and get the facts out more of the public will be with impeaching him

CBS: GOP rep: Dissemination of doctored Pelosi videos "concerning"

Trump will claim victory as he is being evicted from the WH.

Don't dampen the motivation of the Democratic base to appease the Republican base.

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R416 see I want to like Will Hurd, I really do as he's 1 of the more reasonable repubs but I can't forget him signing onto that repub petition that Schiff should resign as chair in House Intelligence Committee. I'm glad at the very least he's not with the fake Pelosi videos

R390 That ratf*ucker tRump can't even spell "Biden" correctly, yet tweets that "Bidan" is a "low IQ individual."

tRump is unhinged, erratic and unfit for office.

Not me R403. No matter what Nancy does or doesn't do, I'm voting for every Democrat on the ballot. If it means the only way to get rid of him is by voting him out, then so be it. I'm ready and fired up.

Politico: Tlaib: House Democrats are ‘moving toward’ impeachment

The Hill (I know, I know):

Top House Dem rips 'studio gangster' Trump

Hakeem is hot

Look. If you impeach him now, you'll fail to remove him because you will not be able to get 20 Republicans in the Senate even if McConnell doesn't block a vote which he will, and Graham as chair of Judiciary blocks anything resembling cooperation. So Impeachment is cast as a partisan political move by Dems, and it failed in the Senate. Then what? BEcause if he gets re-elected in 2021, and we have a Democratic majority in both Houses, do you go back and try again? That's a real bad look. It's a bad approach. YOU'd lose the public. So you do not initiate actual impeachment proceedings now. YOU continue to conduct hearings and investigate. You build. If the gods are kind he's defeated in 2020, and the marshals are there to cuff him, and charge him. And the State of NY is also waiting in line for him and his kids. Your big problem is Uncle Joe who, if he is elected will probably want to make peace and unite the country so he pardons Trump. It could happen. As it was correctly state up thread, Joe is not a fighter. He is an appeaser and a unity at all costs type guy. I'm over Uncle Joe. I'll vote for him if forced to, but please ....

[quote] So Impeachment is cast as a partisan political move by Dems, and it failed in the Senate.

And why isn't the refusal to convict not seen as partisan move?

Impeachment investigation and hearing will get all the info out for the general public to digest. The Republican Senate refusing to convict will make them look criminal as well. A fact the Democracts should use in the 2020 election.

The majority of the US is disgusted by Trump already. The Deplorables will not be enough to make it look like Trump has a chance when, say, the farmers, even with the financial aid, will not vote for him. Same goes for the miners he screwed over. He didn't build the wall. The conservative voters will very likely stay at home, because the Republican Party did nothing except giving tax cuts to the 1% and appointing judges. What did they do for the little people? Trying to take away their healthcare.

That's a great argument. That and impeachment is the morally right thing to do.

Hasn't Trump lost the majority of independents? they made the difference in 2016 by hating Hillary

[quote] Hasn't Trump lost the majority of independents? they made the difference in 2016 by hating Hillary

And yet she won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes somehow.

[quote]Look. If you impeach him now, you'll fail to remove him because you will not be able to get 20 Republicans in the Senate even if McConnell doesn't block a vote which he will, and Graham as chair of Judiciary blocks anything resembling cooperation

McConnell can't "block" impeachment. It's not parliamentary procedure, it's a Constitutional edict.

All McConnel can do is refuse to convict. That will show that he's ok with a corrupt criminal to be in the White House, because it benefits the Republican Party while Michelle Obama was the whore of Babylon for wearing a sleeveless dress.

If impeachment were to pass in the House of Representatives, the matter would be sent over to the Senate. There the Senators would conduct a trial, in which the head of the Supreme Court (Roberts) would act as the presiding judge. The Senate would be required to hear evidence, swear an oath to use due diligence in their deliberation. Each side could present evidence and also mount a defense. Afterwards, the Senate is supposed to deliberate in private. A trial in the Senate can only convict or acquit. A 2/3rds majority must vote to convict. Otherwise, the person who has been impeached by the House will be said to be acquitted. If McConnell instructs his Republican majority not to convict, odds are that none will break rank. That's the importance of getting good evidence out to the American public, because if events are egregious enough, they can put pressure on their Senators.

Again, I think once the House holds hearings and puts the evidence out there on tv, more and more of the public will go along with impeachment. It will be the repubs who look partisan and awful not convicting/removing him in the Senate, not the House Dems who impeach him

Thank you R425. You are spot on and we all need to read what you wrote and re-read it until it sinks in. I know it's frustrating, I wish he was gone yesterday, but little by little, the info IS getting out there, even with all of the Republican stonewalling. Because he thinks he's winning, he is filled with false confidence and keeps making misstep after misstep that his enablers have to keep cleaning up. And the more that keeps happening, the more his insanity is made public and the people who are on the fence about him will finally get a clue and abandon him. And maybe some Senate and House Republicans, too.

I honestly do think there are probably enough Republicans who would vote to convict, should they actually get evidence in front of the American people. At a certain point, supporting him would be untenable.

They will not vote to convict mere months before an election. It's not happening. No Republican will support anything against Trump next year, or this year. In 2021, they might. But we are going to elect Dems in 2020 so no worries, right?

Do you really think Schumer and the other Dem leadership aren't working on those senators. Do you think McConnell has them in a lock box? The Democratic leadership knows they do not have support in the Senate. If they did Nancy would move so fast your head would spin.

We need to keep working on the media and working in our states to make sure we are involved in flipping the legislature governors, U.S. Se nators and House members. If you live in a"safe" state then help your neighbors. LOL!

Trump is only desperate to win in 2020 so that if he serves 4 more years, the statute of limitations will run out on the investigations the SDNY is looking into and they won't be able to do anything about it. If anyone thinks he's in it for any other reason is as crazy as he is.

Yes R425 Yes

Investigate the crap out of him. Get all the dirt out. (It’s probably way worse than what we already know- he’s trying so very, very hard to squelch the money laundering investigations, for example?)

So long as the dirt flows, Trump will be goading / begging Pelosi for formal IMPEACHMENT charges so that he can have 1/2 of the Senate formally step forward and say the Dem’s evidence is insufficient to convict: Trump’s acquittal.

OTOH, if the true dirt flows [italic] without [/italic] formal impeachment, the Senate doesn’t get to consider it (unless they have their own independent hearings, and Misses Lindsay and McTurtle - Heavens to Mergatroyd - don’t want that!).

Instead Trump (and FOX) will turn themselves blue declaring the certified documents, bank records and witnesses are all fake news.

The issue as I see it is that for many Americans the Mueller report is old business. Barr and Trump said Mueller found no collusion no obstruction. For most people who work 8 hours a day, that 's the bottom line. The longer it takes to get any tax returns or to get Mueller up to testify the more this becomes old news and like the Democrats are trying to smear the Pres. and his fat little weasel friend.

Watching Joy Reid this a.m. (OK I know she isn't so popular here -for good reason) but she was getting agitated talking with Congressman Ro Khanna and finally she said "I just feel like something really bad is going to happen soon" and dammit I've been feeling like that since Muellers report landed with a thud.

I spent time pinning hopes on Avenatti and Stormy-they sure as hell got the ball rolling on Cohen. I remember Avenatti talking about SARS bank reports, Cohens lies, Fat Donnie lying and the raid on Cohens office. Now Avenatti is in prison and Donnie is still in WH. Then Mueller was the great hope-Barr took care of that.

Where I don't agree with Nancy-like that matters to anybody but me- is time is wasting. And she seems to think Donnie wants to be impeached-I don't see where she is getting that. He's fighting like hell to keep Congress from getting his info. She posits that if impeachment inquiry starts it will serve to get him reelected. That isn't what I believe. His base is there for him as others have said. If a person ever needed impeachment it's the boil on the butt of humanity named Trumpweasel. He's only getting bolder and worse and worse. IMO, something very bad will happen and soon.

Where are the SDNY and the other investigations? Not a word on those. I don't believe or trust nearly anyone anymore. Besides which, when people like Tribe say its past time for impeachment, I believe it. Love Nancy but in the end she is very political. I do believe she will start impeachment hearings soon. I pray she does. Just had to vent. No one here to discuss this with-Trump people around me. They don't like or respect Trump but they think he's being harassed. Fuck.

Time is not wasting. No way he will be removed during his first term

Impeach him right now, have a vote in the House late summer/early fall and the Dems have shot their wad. It will all be old news by the end of the year.

Investigate throughout the summer, maybe admit late winter early/spring that impeachment is now necessary and vital to our democracy and it will dominate the news cycle up to and after the conventions next year.

Win/win!

L.A. Times: White House claims without proof that FBI has 'outrageous' corruption Barr will uncover

Barr’s diversion

She's something else, I tell ya.

So Lindz will lead the charge into Venezuela?

Trump defaulted on 640 million in loans to Deutsche Bank....roughly the same amount that Deutsche Bank was fined by the DOJ for money laundering...the majority of which was waived by Trump and Sessions shortly after Trump took office....didnt anyone notice ? And after Trump stiffed them, Deutsche Bank continued to give him roughly 2.5 billion in loans...how much of that was approved by Justice Kennedys son ?

The Repugs know that open investigations with public testimony from the witnesses will bury Trump. That's why they are doing anything they can to block that.

Does anyone know the time table once Trump is impeached by the House? Is the Senate required to have the trial within some specified period of time? If not, that's a way McConnell could fuck with it. Maybe the Dems are holding off not only due to their inability to get the witnesses to testify because of the ongoing obstruction by the Repugs but because they are going to hold off until closer to the election knowing what kind of position that puts McConnell in.

Must not forget.

Miss Lindzee in Committee is like MayElla Ewell on the stand.

Dan Rather tweet

I read that the Flynn audio might be released to the public tomorrow!

That would SET THE WEEK OFF really nicely.

McTurtle's Love Pain

I'm not Lindsey, my name is Elaine Lindsey left you years ago My eyes are not blue But mine won't leave you 'Til the sunlight has touched your face She was your morning light Her smile told of no night Your love for her grew With each rising sun And then one winter day His hand led hers away She left you here drowning in your tears, here Where you've stayed for years Crying Lindsey, Lindsey I'm not Lindsey, my name is Elaine Lindsey left you years ago My eyes are not blue But mine won't leave you 'Til the sunlight shines through your face

[quote]I read that the Flynn audio might be released to the public tomorrow!

Treason tapes on Memorial Day. Maybe we'll have a full blown coup by the Fourth of July and reclaim our independence from this fucking orange nightmare.

You know, Michael Cohen is pretty pissed off and bitter because he is in Prison and Trump is rolling right along out here...along with several other people who should be behind bars. Michael Cohen did a lot of recording. He recorded his phone calls with Trump and who knows what else. He may have even wore a wire. And his stuff is still out here. I know the FBI confiscated it, but hey. I'm waiting on some audio tapes of Trump talking about incriminating stuff. I'm also hoping Trump is caught on tape making fun of his MAGAs. Please God, if you're listening.....

R450 I hope Dan Rather tweeted that directly to that pig, Maggie Haberman. Writing an article about poor Hopie Hicks -who fucks married men and abusers-has to make such an "existential" decision about whether or not to comply with a subpoena because , you know, Hopie dearest has such a fine set of morals...The NY Times-as noted by Soledad O Brien -is once again showing it's bias. Makes me sick.

and don't forget Hope Hicks refused to answer several questions when she spoke to the House before

All of the horrible things he has done to this country should be listed every week on all Facebook accounts and in news papers. American newspapers and abroad. Trump nor his family should be accepted in Britain.

Abe must be fuming inside. They spent so much time and money sucking up to him, and then Trump downplays his concerns about NK's recent missile launch telling them they have nothing to worry about because basically KJU is his friend - someone who has threatened Japan off and on for years. I don't know much about Abe and I understand that he wants to stay in Trump's good graces, but the extent that he bows down to him (probably while playing him) bugs me.

While watching the sumo wrestling, Fake Foot Spurs, disrespectfully says to PM Abe:

"That's nuttin', compared to who gets to be #2 to lick my *** after Miss Thang is done.

Watching Barr and Sarah tussle over the spot is a sight to behold."

CNN: Michael Flynn's case could prompt release of some redacted parts of Mueller report

[quote]I read that the Flynn audio might be released to the public tomorrow!

[quote]Michael Cohen did a lot of recording. He recorded his phone calls with Trump and who knows what else. He may have even wore a wire. And his stuff is still out here. I know the FBI confiscated it, but hey. I'm waiting on some audio tapes of Trump talking about incriminating stuff.

I've felt like audio or video could in fact be coming out..... and that is why Dotard and Fox have been working so hard to push those Doctored Pelosi tapes. A way to get ahead of it and claim nothing we see or hear about Drumpf is real --- just "fake" retaliation for airing the Nancy video. He's tried it before.

Washington Post: Still angling for a deal, Trump backs Kim Jong Un over Biden, Bolton and Japan

The Guardian: Trump not doing enough to thwart Russian 2020 meddling, experts say

I’ve heard 6 year olds with better vocabulary than Pudgy.

this has been kept relatively quiet.

Great. Tell him to keep laying people off and keep redirecting Defense department funds away from housing, hospitals and infrastructure for military families. Keep doing that. Those people vote, Donald, you dumb fucker.

Pence at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier made me nauseous.

The Young Turks on Lindsey Graham

WTF r465? Who is going to RAKE our national forests to prevent wildfires?

Don't unnecessarily add to those who "gave their lives", LG.

Read the COMMENTS to LG tweet.

Wow, r470, thank you for posting that. Not one single tweet favouring Ms. Linds. Not one! It was refreshing to read all the tweets condemning that traitorous piece of shit and his dear leader who is worse than shit. It gives me hope that there are Americans who will vote these scumbags out of office.

Why does any country ever allow this piece of filth to visit? He goes in like a little toddler, insulting everyone iin sight. Why doesn't England tell him no, about the visit next week? Trump is nothing but shit.

some let him visit because they can manipulate him. some just think he's a joke. Japan has already succeeded at some of their goals by pandering to Trump. He can't see past himself so he only sees that he is being nurtured and pampered but never sees why.

This is why I always dream about him getting especially heinous elder abuse in the near future. He just would not be able to handle it.

Washington Post: A political scientist caused confusion when he made up a Trump quote. The president noticed.

AP: A hefty donation to Trump's inaugural comes under scrutiny

WHEN is it going to be enough for his advisors, Cabinet Members, Military personnel to JUST SAY "ENOUGH". I mean My God. How many Secretary of States/Defense/ COS. etc has he been through?? We know that recently Tillerson decided to testify. But for Trump to be SO off the Reservation he disagrees withs Lunatic BOLTON??! MADNESS!

Are most WWE fans deplorables? I haven't checked but I don't think Linda McMahon's participation in this administration has hurt the WWE brand at all

NBC: House investigations of Trump and his administration: The full list

R479, I wish that whenever House investigations are mentioned, they'd also mention the Senate investigations to stop making it look like it's partisan. I think a lot of people were surprised when the Senate subpoenaed Don Jr. because everyone had forgotten that the fucker is still being investigated in the Senate.

it will be enough for the Republicans when they finally realize they won't be reelected and when they start losing some of their money. There HAVE to be some Republicans on the the Democrats side to get rid of him

Fabulous r470!

And that piece of shit is handing out medals to sumo wrestlers and golfing and tweeting about hideous things, but not a word about veterans and Memorial Day. Wonder if he filled his disgustingly fat gullet with Japanese McDonald’s shitty food? He is despicable.

Pardon the below link to the Daily Caller, a right wing, Tucker Carlson & Neil Patel publication. The purpose is to show the attacks and projection Trump sychophants and enablers are undertaking as political vendettas, deflections, and false narratives.

The attacks are on the Obama administration, intelligence officials, federal law enforcement, political opponents, involved judges, etc.

Graham, as Senate Judiciary Committee Chairwoman, will do her theatrical, bogus hearings.

The real horror will be Barr drumming up false charges on innocent agents who were doing their job trying to protect the U.S. from Russian intrusion activities.

BET ON IT, THOSE FED AGENTS IN NYC THAT COLLABORATED AND LEAKED TO RUDY GIULIANI TO HURT HRC IN '16 WILL NOT BE TOUCHED BY BARR.

Re: R472 and R473. Of course (as a Brit) I feel nauseated that Trump + spawn will be visiting and treated to lavish hospitality. (Notable by the way that Trump won't be addressing Parliament, as Obama did - there are a couple of other snubs too, no Philip or William in attendance. Good.)

However the repulsive Trump preens at being the centre of such grand attention, the joke is likely to be on him. He's being humoured to keep the transatlantic alliance healthy, until he's disgraced. The Office, not the man, is being acknowledged. Trump will be a deep dirty stain in history soon enough, and the UK and the US will, thanks to such devoted diplomacy, maintain their good - sometimes special - relationship.

The UK will look like grown-ups for somehow - against all inclination - keeping the alliance civil. You can bet however that one day reports will filter out about how comprehensively ghastly The Royals found The Trumps, with examples which will become notorious. By that time, Trump's disgrace will be globally verified.

I personally don't give a shit if Trump meets the UK's "royal" family. They're grifting pieces of shit too but obviously Trump is a whole other level.

As most of you know, economies do not rise or fall overnight. The stock market can but not the economy. If Trump keeps up the trade war, it will eventually hurt the country at large. Right now it's just fucking over his dumb ass farmer base but they're not a large enough population for most repubs to care about

Barr, who provided untruthful statements to Congress, should not be in possession of Intel information that has scrutinized a foreign adversary.

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The Republican Party has been compromised. The Cabinet officials are part of his cabal. Maybe when he first took office there were a few people around like McMasters and Mattis who might slow him down or stop him, ignore him, etc. But they're all gone. In case you haven't noticed there are a ton of appointed positions unfilled, and the people he has around him now would not try to stop him even if they could.

Go away, unless you are married and/or physically abuse women

Eh, not buying it R485. Trump wouldn't even have realized he had been snubbed because he has no idea what is usual in government or protocol. This is just normalizing him and giving him the type of attention he thrives on. Our relationship with Britain would have been fine without playing into Trump's grandstanding hand.

The Hill: Senate GOP vows to quickly quash any impeachment charges

I had to listen to that horrible, lying piece of shit, Sarah Sanders this morning...she is pure filth and should be in prison for many reasons, obstruction being one of them.

Media-ite: Trump Official Lynne Patton: ‘I Honestly Don’t Care’ if I’m Breaking the Law

Listening to Sanders this morning made me think of Nazi Germany...I pictured her in an SS uniform. I believe she would be very happy wearing a swastika.

I thought Sanders announced she was leaving in January. Can't get another job, I assume.

I'm just tired of seeing her Lucy Van Pelt face.

Sarah needs a relaxing vacation. It's almost summertime!

Thank you, r404. So many apparently think the Ervin Hearings constituted impeachment.

What these DAILY TELEVISED HEARINGS DID do, and to which Pelosi, who lived through them, ought pay heed, was lay bare for all Americans the high crimes and misdemeanors of President Nixon.

Eventually, the outcry and polls became too much even for the Republican Establishment, and Sen. Hugh Scott, one of the last of the "decent" Pennsylvania Republicans (Charlie Dent was the absolute last) led the walk to the Oval Office.

r494 So now they just out and out admit they don't care to follow the law. I knew things would get bad before better but this is getting very, very scary.

The right wing is almost in a frantic frenzy to get things done. Why? It is like they know something and they must get things done in the shortest amount of time possible. All over the world, there is a right wing "movement" that doesn't look organic.

But, R499, where they as sychophantically attached to Nixon as they are to Trump? They literally seem brainwashed to give up everything they have ever stood for to maintain their cult.

Pretty much everyone in the Trump Administration is now Cartman

Truth has been so distorted by the right (by design) even if we had hearings and there was dramatic evidence Pres Bone Spurs engaged in treasonous activities, no one would watch the hearings. Not many would believe them.

But we should not try to listen to or convert his base. They've sold their souls to a demon and there is no coming back. They aren't a majority. As the mid-terms showed, all the rational ones have come back to OUR side. They only voted for him last time because he was the shiny new object they'd seen on TV for so long. He talked a good game. He fooled enough of them and with Russian help, he was "elected" but that whiny little orange bitch doesn't have anywhere near a majority now. I will not believe any poll showing his sociopath self in the lead. He has never had a positive job approval rating. He is the least popular president in history,

As a young person I watched those hearings and could not wait to get rid of Nixon. Against my better judgment, I had voted for Nixon. He was the last Republican I ever voted for.

If Britain wanted to be respected around the world, they would Trump excuses to Trump.

For fuck's sake. Putin gave the win to Trump. Not the independent voters or "unpopular" Hillary. The media bullshit narrative was supposed to cover up the fact that Putin hacked the election. Unless some great big miracle is happening Putin will hack the 2020 election, too and then the media will be all about how the Dems didn't do enough to get the votes they needed to win.

The only way Putin would not be able to fuck with the election is when 100% of the registered voters not only vote but add their votes in a public database to make sure it wasn't altered. And I don't see that to be ready for the next election.

Sorry,

... not only vote but add their votes in a public database to make sure they (the votes) were not altered.

I heard the Flynn judge wants at least the audio transcript out by the end of the month...which is sometime this week. Hopefully the audio follows

Do we know who Flynn was talking to yet?

Last June, it was reported Ivanka and Jared made at least 82 million in outside WH income the prior year.

Is there no stopping this?

if there's any justice, the entire Trump and Kushner families will end up bankrupt before they die.

They, and all who believe in them, are all now irretrievably caught in an alternative universe of lies, doublespeak and collusive, corrosive cover-ups. Avalanches are less subtle.

*more* subtle, like spanx

The foundation for all the corruption we are currently dealing with in Congress, and the White House was laid when the Supreme Court rendered their Citizens United ruling insisting that money was "speech" and constitutionally protected, not limited or prohibited. Even Roberts later admitted this ruling was a mistake. But it opened the flood gates for Dark Money and money from undisclosed sources. The mainstream media saw this potential windfall and began hyping elections and campaigns and are currently the main beneficiaries and they will be the main obstacle towards getting Citizens United overturned.

When was that ruling?

Boris needs to work on his cross-dressing skills.

Citizens United ruling that a campaign contribution is a form of "free speech" occurred in 2010.

What I don't understand is that if you or I want to donate, we have something like a $2500 limit. But, corporations and corporate backed groups can give unlimited amounts as long as they form a PAC. So, again, it's just the rich getting to control everything.

Anyone watching CNN reporting Rump's how super shady real estate dealings are, especially in India

R519 I saw that special last week. I never knew about the failed Baja, Mexico project a decade or so ago!! People put money in for condos that were never built. Some of them could then not pay the money to join a class action suit. Trump and his family of course made it seem like they were the developers but when the project failed, they made it clear in a letter that they were not in fact the developers. I do feel bad for the Baja victims because that was well before ti was widely known outside of NYC that Trump is a fraud.

Yeah, R510, and Kushner just got an $800 million federally backed loan to develop apartment buildings on the East Coast. Nepotism and conflict of interest are a trump family specialty.

The tRump Scandals That Have Slipped by Congress: A relentless focus on Russia allowed many other controversies to escape the glare of legislative oversight:

I’m watching the CNN expose now on the west coast. Hard to believe he has gotten away with so much corruption for so long. It is truly bewildering that he continues to be a free man.

well I have to say shame on NY for not stopping him. Why he was allowed to get away with tricking the city back in the early 80s with that hotel is beyond me. Then they let him get away with the Trump Tower mess.

He could have been stopped, but you had a string of corrupt officials who took payoffs to look the other way...i.e Cyrus Vance, Jr and Pam Bondi...the list is long.

It's not too late to take 'em all down.

The other thing I want to know is who the hell is behind the Fucking shady compromise/deal to delay the release of Trump's subpeonad Deutsche Bank loan. That shit stinks to high heaven and would have revealed his taxes for sure not to mention a probable connection to Russian money laundering. Someone very high up either got paid-off or threatened to suppress *that* information. God only knows if it will come out now.

R506 nailed it!

Bravo!!!!

R506 There's currently an entertainment thread running "Spoil a Classic Book of Movie!"

Your entry practically belongs there.

[quote]The tRump Scandals That Have Slipped by Congress: A relentless focus on Russia allowed many other controversies to escape the glare of legislative oversight:

Utter bullshit. It was two plus years of complete corruption of the Repugs that left everything uninvestigated. The dereliction of their duties should have them all removed from office and tarred and feathered and pranced through the streets on a national tour. The Democrats have had four months and have been fighting against unprecedented criminality and obstruction. I really am getting so sick of these stories not front-and-center, from title through last sentence, castigating these fucking Repug criminals.

We need to explode the myth that Trump is so popular. It's my belief that many former Republicans call themselves Independents now, and all that's left, those who self identify as Republicans now are the extremes. He is not popular. He doesn't have broad support at all. But the media insists on perpetuating this myth. No one can afford to sit out this election. No one. And you need to remember your ballot number when you go to vote. In fact, we all need to be supporting all efforts to insure our ballots are secure. I know Eric Holder and Obama were working on a ballot security effort. There are others. That's where pressure needs to be put right now. And force the media to shine a light on it. Our weapon is social media. We can use it to insist the mainstream media do their job.

Every German born German I have ever known, speaks English....why not Merkle? I admire her but it seems odd.

I know that Putin also knows English and he speaks to our lowlife president.

let's hope the Flynn transcript and possibly audio drop today! We need another shitstorm headline to remind everyone how awful Trump is

I saw Natasha Bertrand (frequenters msnbc contributor, writer for The Atlantic) at Dacha Beer Garden in Shaw (D.C.) on Sunday afternoon. She was with a red-headed guy who I assume was her boyfriend. They looked like they were having fun. Dacha is very gay-friendly (it’s typically a big mix).

*frequent

Trump is a cunt.

The Miss Lindseyites are trying to dare and intimidate Democrats from pursuing Trump and his corruption. Don't let the sashaying before friendly cameras and her daily Fox News appearances and featuring be an impediment.

Remember, they are motivated to please Putty.

Reuters: For battles with Congress, Trump reshapes legal defense team

r532, Merkel grew up in East Germany, where students were encouraged to learn Russian as a foreign language. She speaks Russian with an impressive fluency and is perhaps the only Western leader who can engage in conversation with Putin in his native language,

Statement just released from Mueller's office: He3 did not right up an indictment against Trump prior to turning in his report.

The fucker can send out statements defending Trump (sort of) but the fuckwad won't testify openly to Congress. He gave Trump every benefit in his report. He allowed the SOB to get away with written answers to questions. He ain't going down in history much better than Barr.

Concur. When Mueller allowed Trump to provide written answers to select questions, then on, I had reservations about his willingness to be thorough and confrontational. It was a bad precedent. Apparently, DOJ was even then, too cozy with Trump's attorneys and Republican politicians.

Resisting to testify in public looks disturbing on Muller's part, and looks as if he is under Barr's and Trump's influence. It is disappointing.

The House should not back off. Mueller can certainly testify in closed session per any parts that deal with national security matters or investigations still active. Otherwise, make the remainder public.

Michael Wolff makes sensational stuff up which muddies the waters. Mueller would have been a fool to let Wolff "speak" for him.

Fire and Fury author Michael Wolff is back with a sequel to his 2018 bestseller. And in it, he makes an explosive claim about an action special counsel Robert Mueller strongly considered taking against President Donald Trump. But it’s an action that the Mueller team is firmly denying.

According to the Guardian, Wolff claims that Mueller drafted an obstruction of justice indictment against Trump, before ultimately deciding not to proceed with it. The indictment, according to Wolff, would have charged the president with three counts including; witness tampering, witness retaliation, and corruptly influencing a pending proceeding.

The Guardian reports that it viewed documents relating to Wolff’s claim. Yet Mueller spokesman Peter Carr denies the very existence of these documents.

“The documents that you’ve described do not exist,” Carr told the Guardian.

Wolff claims that the draft indictment alleges that Trump began obstructing justice in the first week of his presidency. He wrote that Mueller concluded Trump took “extraordinary lengths… to protect himself from legal scrutiny and accountability, and to undermine the official panels investigating his actions.”

Following the publication of Fire and Fury, Wolff came under heavy criticism for factual errors in the book. He later said he considers himself “barely a journalist,” and believes that his job “has nothing to do with truth.”

I’m really quite over Robert Mueller. He is fucking hiding and owes it to the American people to explain several things about his “report” that he must know at this point is one of the most important documents in American history. We only get little responses from his spokesman occasionally. I want to hear him speak and I want him to answer to the American Public for what he has (and has not) done. I paid your fucking salary, Bob, and I want some answers.

Rosenstein appointed Mueller knowing he would be super cautious and Rosenstein protected the Trump presidency as much as anyone. And the butt weasel is still doing it! I don't count on Mueller for anything. Wish and hope I', misjudging him but so far his actions or lack of speak for themselves.

I also find it very strange that Kim Jong Un would use the exact same phrase that Trump does in calling Biden "low IQ". Low IQ Maxine Waters-remember her? He's a stable genius-what the fuck ever that means and everybody else are low IQ individuals. Sure Jan! Like Forest Gump mama always says "Stupid is as stupid does".

Well, I hope it was worth it for Mueller to destroy the reputation he had as a war hero, patriot and man of integrity to cover up for the con-man who is in office. He will forever be remembered for this cowardly act against America. Not for his military record or for being a stand up man of values.

Once again -- everything Trump touches, dies.

So, were the posters who insisted Mueller is such an honorable man that he will pick country over party trolls? Was the Mueller report just a sham investigation that was supposed to look like it goes somewhere but, in the end, only sacrifices a few pawns (Cohen) but the the rest will get away (the Trump kids and Jared Kushner, for example)? Can we trust that the other investigations will go anywhere with Barr in place?

Daily Beast: Michael Wolff’s Claim of ‘Draft Indictment’ of Trump Doesn't Exist, Says Mueller's Office

Politico: ‘My Rudy’: Trump’s lawyer wants to be the campaign’s No. 1 hatchet man

The Hill: Top Dem blasts Trump as 'fake leader of the free world'

Not "never existed" but "doesn't exist", is noteworthy. For example, it doesn't exist because you destroyed it?

Dana Bash will be thrilled if Rudy is Trump's #1 hatchet man. Her interviews with him looked like an incestuous daughter asking for treats from daddy. Dana is just one of several taking such an approach.

Do some damn investigate journalism, cable media, and ask persistently the serious questions.

That’s exactly what I thought, R551.

I'm very suspicious of any "statements" coming out of Barr's Justice department. And Michael Wolff has been known to embellish, exaggerate and outright lie in the past. But I agree with R551.

Lindsey Graham reacts to Joe Scarborough criticism.

Pardon, The Hill.

Funny how this works.

[quote]So, were the posters who insisted Mueller is such an honorable man that he will pick country over party trolls?

That's my conclusion, R457.

Along with Boris and Svetlana, we also have Randy and Rick, pretending to be gay men but they are really just working to create dissent among Democratic gay men. They want us to get our hopes up and then tragically disappointed.

They want us feeling despair.

And they are some of the most prolific posters in these threads.

Isn’t Mueller all about his supposed sterling reputation and being seen as a Boy Scout / Do-Gooder? Because that’s not how he’s being seen post-report. You’d think he would want to go out as a winner, not part of the Barr cover-up.

Transparent much, R558? Keep trying futilely to sow those seeds of dissent.

The despair army is really out in full force today, eh?

R559, I’m not one of the “dissension trolls.” I’m actually one of the few posters on here who has offered first-hand gossip for several years at this point. I’m legitimately asking why Mueller isn’t defending himself and letting Barr and the DOJ erroneously frame what is in his report.

Are you one of those trolls-accusing-others-of-being-trolls?

Girls, girls... you're both.... trolls!

[quote]I’m actually one of the few posters on here who has offered first-hand gossip for several years at this point.

You're the "My source will vaguely hint at something this weekend when I see her - I promise!" fake insider?

"She will SPILL ALL! Except anything of any importance. And after something actually is spilled by others, I'll claim I was the first to share that exciting scoop!"

We do have someone here who claims to be an insider and who has a source who seems to only "confirm," things after its been posted here first. But I don't know if this is the same person.

Sad that Mueller now seems to be the J D Salinger of politics, when we all long for the Gore Vidal.

I'd prefer Susann, r565.

Of course she did. These fuckers have no shame and no consequences.

[QUOTE] You're the "My source will vaguely hint at something this weekend when I see her - I promise!" fake insider?

Nope, that would be Former Congressional Intern (FCI) who, I believe, actually *has* dropped some good gossip in these threads.

What have you contributed exactly, R563? You are the reason why people with real gossip don’t come to these threads. I have lots of Hill friends and get tidbits now and then that I post here. And it’s not just rehashed bullshit that’s already out there.

I still believe in the integrity of Mueller's investigation and of Mueller himself. I think his testimony will reveal the limitations placed on his mandate as Special Counsel, and I think those limitations will be correctly seen as significant.

The fact that the inquiry did not access financial information presumed to be part of its mandate is seeping into the public discourse. That alone will spur the public toward the consensus opinion that the inquiry's conclusions, while damning in and of themselves, convey the need for further investigation and congressional action. This further investigation might need to be in the form of an impeachment inquiry.

I'm under the impression from what I've read and seen on MSNBC, that Mueller is still involved with cases and that is why he is still low key. Barr is really the guy y'all need to be fucking with. He needs his ass kicked.

What is the rationale for why he didn't go after the Finances? Was it because Dotard warned not to or because Mueller knew it was better to leave it to the States?

[quote]Barr is really the guy y'all need to be fucking with. He needs his ass kicked.

Newp, not fucking him. And my foot is far to small to be felt by that massive, doughy, lardy ass.

R574 it would get lost in those voluminous folds of chub for weeks like the yoga instructor in hawaii

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R569 is the whataboutism that is so decried here.

The Guardian: Exclusive: Mueller drew up obstruction indictment against Trump, Michael Wolff book claims

R573—My guess is conjecture, but I believe the Special Counsel was limited by the fact that the executive branch, via AG Barr's supervision, acting AG Whitaker's supervision, and deputy AG Rosenstein's appointment and supervision, determines the SC's jurisdiction and supervises his investigation.

While the current regulations stipulate the special counsel must report to Congress specific acts of the executive branch's supervision in conjunction with the denial of his requests, we know that Mueller simply declined to make requests he was sure would be denied. It's reasonable to infer that requesting access to certain financial records would be an example of an action Mueller declined to take because of his understanding of the investigation's supervisors and the limitations they imposed. Consequently, the accountability regulations that should have highlighted the actions of the executive branch to limit the investigation failed.

[quote]Once again -- everything Trump touches, dies.

So..... Ivanka's pussy?

[quote] The Guardian reports that it viewed documents relating to Wolff’s claim. Yet Mueller spokesman Peter Carr denies the very existence of these documents.

[quote]“The documents that you’ve described do not exist,” Carr told the Guardian.

There's a reason they said this instead of "No. That never happened. We never wrote up an obstruction indictment."

“The documents that you’ve described do not exist...because they’ve been shredded.”

^Yes! According to a document seen by the Guardian, the first count, under Title 18, United States code, Section 1505, charged the president with corruptly – or by threats of force or threatening communication – influencing, obstructing or impeding a pending proceeding before a department or agency of the United States.

Of course Lindsey Graham won't go on Morning Joe to respond.

He is speaking with the media daily, but only to Fox News and affiliates.

His behavior is not being confronted.

And, then there's the fact that we've watched Trump do the exact things listed in the purported indictment. In fact, it's the exact indictment we were all asking, "Where's the fucking indictment about all this obvious shit we've seen him do?".

Mueller wrote it. DoJ quashed it.

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Wow. The Guardian on Wolff's new book is explosive!

I think Barr saw Mueller's (possibly draft version) Obstruction of Justice indictment and basically said, "You can just get rid of that right now. It's not going into your final report."

Another reason that Mueller needs to testify to Congress under oath is to answer questions about the limitations Barr put on what he turned over as a final product. "Were any supporting documents/appendices removed from the final package you had turned over to the DoJ?"

Bajour!

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