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Straight women who want men to do everything for them

was never so happy to be gay in my whole life after overhearing some talk today.

was sitting down in a coffee shop today; three single women, late 20s, early 30s take the table next to me; they start talking about them men in their lives. Here are snippets:

"We were traveling and I found out he had a credit card that had a huge limit; I said WE are using that!"

"I looked at the furniture and art in his apartment; I told him he had to get rid of all of it. He didn't believe in updating?"

"I'm asking myself what am I getting from this guy? I can't stay in a relationship where I'm not getting anything."

This went on. The tone was incredibly selfish. Not once did I hear what they were doing for these guys; just what they could get out of them. At one point, even tho I'm using my phone, one of them shoots me a look as if 'you better not be listening to this', but I didn't maintain eye contact long.

She went back to talking about what she wasn't getting out of this guy. They all had designer handbags.

When I walked away I caught one of them shooting me a mean girls look.

I feel badly for the guys in their lives. They deserve better.

by Anonymousreply 172May 30, 2019 1:03 AM

I guess OP never heard that it's impolite to eavesdrop. How would OP like it when someone would listen in when he talks to his fellow incel friends?

by Anonymousreply 1May 19, 2019 7:29 PM

I was just thinking this today, as I was watching some stupid reality show.

There was some guy and girl who were casually hooking up, and this girl gave him so much fucking GRIEF for every little thing he did. He just couldn't win, unless he kissed her ass and worshipped at her feet. Even then, I don't think that she would ever be happy.

NO FUCKING THANK YOU.

You can have these bitches with all of their demands. No wonder married guys age so horribly.

by Anonymousreply 2May 19, 2019 7:29 PM

There are plenty of straight men who seek this kind of woman out and are happy to get one.

My theory: The men who want this kind of woman are seeking validation. “If a picky gold digger with exacting standards is with me, it must mean I’m worthy and useful wealthy enough, and better than other men.”

If they didn’t like being used by these women, they could find someone else.

by Anonymousreply 3May 19, 2019 7:30 PM

R1, right, but I was there first and they're talking loudly enough to be overheard. It's not like I had a glass up to the ladies room door and was trying to listen in.

They didn't care who heard them.

by Anonymousreply 4May 19, 2019 7:31 PM

Fish only want $$$. Most straight men will do anything for pussy, just like most gay men will do anything for cock and ass,

by Anonymousreply 5May 19, 2019 7:32 PM

The life of a married man is a living hell.

Run, guys. Run like the wind!

by Anonymousreply 6May 19, 2019 7:32 PM

Does your posting get in the way of your dilation schedule?

by Anonymousreply 7May 19, 2019 7:32 PM

R7, does yours?

by Anonymousreply 8May 19, 2019 7:34 PM

Ouch, R7!!!

rofl

by Anonymousreply 9May 19, 2019 7:34 PM

OP, r4

[quote] right, but I was there first and they're talking loudly enough to be overheard.

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by Anonymousreply 10May 19, 2019 7:37 PM

Mary!

by Anonymousreply 11May 19, 2019 7:37 PM

LOL at Miss Priss OP

by Anonymousreply 12May 19, 2019 7:39 PM

oh, you got me with the sure Jan!

that's so funny! That means you don't really believe me!

You're very funny! You should be a writer for Saturday Night Live or The Neighborhood!

That's right! People can't talk loudly or obnoxiously in public!

by Anonymousreply 13May 19, 2019 7:39 PM

As a lesbian, I will tell you with some certainty that of these women were getting great sex (yes, that means cunnilingus, perhaps for 1/2 hour +) and lots of hugs, kisses, and snuggles, they wouldn't feel like "their" men owed them anything. The relationship would be more on parity if they got what they needed both physically and emotionally.

But men aren't made that way. So yes. most straight women feel that their men owe them something. In addition, since women do the vast majority of the housework and child-rearing (whether they work outside the home or not), they do a lot more (and more tedious) work than men.

Generally speaking, these women wouldn't be quite so bitchy if they were gettin' laid right.

by Anonymousreply 14May 19, 2019 7:42 PM

Straight women want money and material things. Straight men want lots of sex with minimal emotional work.

Seems to me it's a setup that can work.

by Anonymousreply 15May 19, 2019 7:45 PM

[quote] That's right! People can't talk loudly or obnoxiously in public!

It's just a wonderful coincidence then that it fits with your incel friendly agenda to rant against women for some reason. You know, you should play the lottery next. Luck seems to be on your side as it seems.

by Anonymousreply 16May 19, 2019 7:46 PM

R16, my 'incel friendly agenda'?

Well, sure, except it really happened.

Nothing lucky about it.

by Anonymousreply 17May 19, 2019 7:50 PM

[quote] Straight women want money and material things

And they're pretty much taught this from childhood.

Find a rich man, and marry him!

by Anonymousreply 18May 19, 2019 7:54 PM

R15, I'm not saying it can't, but these three did nothing but complain about how all of it wasn't enough.

by Anonymousreply 19May 19, 2019 7:54 PM

Women tend to talk loudly and have poor awareness of their surroundings.

by Anonymousreply 20May 19, 2019 7:56 PM

It’s funny as I have a friend who is like that with her husband, expects him to take care of her every financial need even though she inherited over $300 million from her father

by Anonymousreply 21May 19, 2019 8:02 PM

R14 sounds more like a black guy.

by Anonymousreply 22May 19, 2019 8:03 PM

but not her father's love, I would imagine, R21.

by Anonymousreply 23May 19, 2019 8:03 PM

Damn, OP. You sound like a prick.

by Anonymousreply 24May 19, 2019 8:06 PM

As a straight guy that lurks here, I really do appreciate threads like these when I see them on DL. It reminds me I'm not some 'misogynistic' for thinking this when plenty of others notice it too, of course as straight men it is forbiden for us to talk about how we experience things.

It's such a shame that when they do come up they're swamped with angry man hating women/lesbians that seem to infest all of DL. I came here specifically to get away from them yet they're everywhere here.

by Anonymousreply 25May 19, 2019 8:14 PM

r24, someone who doesn't think it's right to only think of things materialistically and what you can get out of a relationship and how to use guys sounds like a prick to you?

Guys in a relationship with these women must feel like they're taking a test 24/7.

That's not love.

You sound like a prick to me.

by Anonymousreply 26May 19, 2019 8:15 PM

I didn't realize Jacob Wohl posting on DL was a thing

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by Anonymousreply 27May 19, 2019 8:16 PM

OP sounds like a bitchy queen in 1960. All a man wants is to be pussy whipped and all a woman wants is to be kept.

OP you're not a prick just a dickhead.

by Anonymousreply 28May 19, 2019 8:18 PM

Don't listen to all these fraus who are piling on you, op.

They hate to hear the truth, because the truth hurts.

by Anonymousreply 29May 19, 2019 8:19 PM

A certain class of women feel like this, OP, and where you were says everything about what you were hearing. Straight women who are poor up to working and middle class don't behave like this, in my experience, and tend to complain about the lack of sexual reciprocation, if anything. Most of the time they're too busy or tired to bitch. This is the same class of women that breeds bridezillas and fraus.

Otherwise, you are spot on, in my limited experience of back in the day staightness.

by Anonymousreply 30May 19, 2019 8:20 PM

not sure why all the hate at me; I'm just the messenger sharing what I overheard.

these women sounded unbearable, mean and selfish and all they want guys to do is be something they can't ever possibly be.

Thanks R29.

by Anonymousreply 31May 19, 2019 8:21 PM

To be clear, it's the women who OP overheard and the class they come from that breeds up the bridezillas and judgmental frau types. There are the precious princess types in all classes, but they generally come from upper middle and high class (hoi polloi, the ether is thin) chics.

It's not a generalization that fits all women in all generations, either. My generation was expected to behave, obey, and expect little in return when it came to affection given. You were a lucky one if you got it. Since the advent of the working girl, however, this has changed. Mi compadre, Bronze age gay, will verify this.

by Anonymousreply 32May 19, 2019 8:25 PM

I doubt anyone hates you as no one here actually knows you. I will say it seems an odd thing to share on DL given that the target audience won't ever be in this situation. It's not like a straight guy is going to read this and go oh that's terrible I should probably be gay instead. And while a gay guy might be thank God I dodged a bullet, having been born this way it wasn't an active choice.

by Anonymousreply 33May 19, 2019 8:27 PM

Please. OP was raised with and by bitches like that. And have we forgotten about yapping over sharing queens at brunch telling the entire world their business? OP sounds jealous and their husbands are the type of “straight” man he’d be down on his knees happily servicing. It’s true that many gay males are completely jealous of straight women because they’re protected by straight men. Hantz queens sucking off str8 husbands. Envy.

by Anonymousreply 34May 19, 2019 8:29 PM

hate might be a strong word but the sure jan and you're a dickhead aren't compliments.

correct, we are born this way. tho some gay men choose to live straight lives

I just find it wrong for ANYONE to treat other people this way, the way these women were talking about men. They found nothing wrong with it.

by Anonymousreply 35May 19, 2019 8:29 PM

Most straight females are cuntbags, are you new to the world lol.

by Anonymousreply 36May 19, 2019 8:31 PM

As someone else said, if these guys were sick of their shit, they could leave. But they don't.

So the eternal DL question remains "why are straight me so stupid?"

by Anonymousreply 37May 19, 2019 8:32 PM

I think R3 is right. I never understood the dynamic - but it’s one both my brother and sister are in. Hateful relationships where the woman does nothing and complains about the husband. Why anyone would put up with it is beyond me. I get women don’t give it up as easily - but it’s amazing they’ve convinced these guys to marry them and breed with them even though they are seemingly horrible and narcissistic and needy. I know a few good straight relationships - mainly among my city friends. But the suburbs seem to be filled with these masochistic relationships.

by Anonymousreply 38May 19, 2019 8:33 PM

[quote] This is the same class of women that breeds bridezillas and fraus.

Exactly!

Unfortunately, reality television is indoctrinating most women nowdays, into believing that this is how they should act.

From Bridezillas, to House Hunters, to Four Weddings, and all these other TLC shows which portray women as shrill, screaming, demanding, shrieking harpies - women are actually being told that this is "normal" behavior. IT'S NOT.

And the problem is only getting worse.

by Anonymousreply 39May 19, 2019 8:33 PM

Straight woman.

Yes it's true, there are a lot of selfish greedy bitches in the world. They annoy every one, except each other.

I had a straight guy once explain to me how men think of potential partners. He said that men are, bottom line, competitive with each other. When they are looking for women, what they are looking for is someone to talk about, impressively, with all of their friends. For some of them, it is part of the 'I am irresistable to women, all kinds, everywhere' narrative. So they want to fuck every kind of woman, so they can say, "yeah, i fucked a 75 year old quadriplegic once. You should have heard her. Couldn't fill her up!'

But other forms of competition come into play with women they enter into actual relationships with. Those women have to be drop-dead gorgeous ball busters. They have to be hot enough that the other guys will masturbate to her, abd probably turn them into bulmbling fools in her presence. If she is that gorgeous AND has expensive tastes, then he is superior to the other guys, not only in having the hottest girlfriend/wife, but in being able to bring in enough "cheddar" to keep her happy. Oh and then of course, he also entertains them with stories of what a wildcat she is in bed.

Women like those described by the OP are meeting market demand. They have an extremely short shelf life. They are maximizing their profit margin.

You get what you pay for.

by Anonymousreply 40May 19, 2019 8:38 PM

This is why more straights are just staying single. I Some men are sick of the harpies they meet and some women are sick of the douchebags they've met. Of course skanks like this can't do anything for themselves so they have to find some guy.

by Anonymousreply 41May 19, 2019 8:43 PM

[quote]not sure why all the hate at me;

From my perspective it’s because of your horrible writing abilities and extreme overuse of semicolons. But that’s just me.

by Anonymousreply 42May 19, 2019 8:46 PM

I dunno, R40.

How then do you explain the "hot guys with plain women" thread? And I know exactly what they're talking about, because I see it everywhere.

Then you have these short, fat and balding schlubs, with gorgeous model-type women.

It's weird, but I think that the guys you are referring to are the over-compensating types, who were losers in high school and vowed to be rich so that they could finally impress their peers.

I think that the loser types are the ones competing for the gold-diggers, in which case I would say that they deserve each other.

Conversely, I think that the hot and humble studs end up with the mild mannered females.

So I guess it all works out in the end.

by Anonymousreply 43May 19, 2019 8:46 PM

R42

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by Anonymousreply 44May 19, 2019 8:49 PM

[quote]Hantz queens sucking off str8 husbands.

What’s a hantz queen?

by Anonymousreply 45May 19, 2019 8:50 PM

r45 The husband's are all hooking up with the spirits of gay men "Hant, a variation on the word haunt, means to appear in the form of a ghost, to show up regularly or a memory that keeps popping up and won't go away. An example of hant is the inhabiting by a ghost of a house where someone died. An example of hant is the recurring memory of a bad childhood experience."

by Anonymousreply 46May 19, 2019 8:55 PM

I have tried dating women and I get the type described in ops post. #notallwomen

by Anonymousreply 47May 19, 2019 9:00 PM

R47, thanks .

And you are correct, it's not all women.

It's some.

I just marvel that people go through life thinking that behaving this way is going to make them happy.

by Anonymousreply 48May 19, 2019 9:03 PM

R40 sounds like an actual woman. Everything you said is plausible. Especially the part about these bitches having a short shelf life.

by Anonymousreply 49May 19, 2019 9:08 PM

I wrote a comment up there I forgot which one but I misspelled a word and can’t go back and edit it so make fun of me bitches

by Anonymousreply 50May 19, 2019 9:09 PM

I raised my daughter to surround herself with good, decent, hardworking people. After grad school she snared a trust funder. I sometimes wonder if I whored her out.

by Anonymousreply 51May 19, 2019 9:14 PM

Almost ALL straight married men are miserable. This is fact. The life and spirit of them is destroyed. Seen it way too many times. So many weak men.

by Anonymousreply 52May 19, 2019 9:18 PM

Oh please. The straight women I know do fucking everything for their overgrown baby fatass hard-drinking husbands. Telling that your anecdote is from a two minute conversation you "overheard" somewhere. Women are increasingly supporting their deadbeat bfs and spouses anyway these days

And accomplished straight men would be a lot less miserable if they pursued women with jobs and brains instead of dating down socioeconomically the hottest woman they can snag. Men don't respect women and often want a fucktoy, and end up miserable as a result

by Anonymousreply 53May 19, 2019 9:21 PM

^^^Nah

by Anonymousreply 54May 19, 2019 9:23 PM

R53, I agree with you, men would be less miserable if they pursued women with jobs and brains. or maybe ones who wanted love not money.

btw, conversation was more than two minutes, and I'm not sure what you mean by 'overheard somewhere.'

Of course, I overheard it and, yes, of course, I was somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 55May 19, 2019 9:24 PM

OP, why do you automatically feel sorry for the boyfriends? for all you know, the could be the douchiest dudebros ever. Birds of a feather and all that. And how do these women sound any different then a gaggle of lip gloss and prada queens?

Misogyny is so yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 56May 19, 2019 9:24 PM

Most straight men I've ever known can't stand to be single for 5 minutes, so apparently it's not a deal breaker, because the second their marriages or relationships are over, they run as fast as they can into a new one.

by Anonymousreply 57May 19, 2019 9:25 PM

R53 great point. Everyone gets exactly what they deserve.

by Anonymousreply 58May 19, 2019 9:26 PM

oh please i see hot men all the time with ugly fat fraus. MISERABLE.

by Anonymousreply 59May 19, 2019 9:27 PM

Not miserable enough to leave.

by Anonymousreply 60May 19, 2019 9:28 PM

r53 What bullshit, women refuse to even date sideways, much less down. The reason men date down socio-economically is entirely because of women. Take some ownership of women's entitlement for once, it won't hurt I promise.

by Anonymousreply 61May 19, 2019 9:30 PM

R60 Well, it takes a lot to be ready to part with YOUR house and YOUR money.

by Anonymousreply 62May 19, 2019 9:32 PM

Let's be honest, most people are assholes. Women and men can be horrible, for different reasons. No one is forced to be with anyone, they can find someone else or be single. It's that easy.

by Anonymousreply 63May 19, 2019 9:33 PM

Straight men are just as bad as straight women on this one.

Straight men no longer are satisfied with the "Cake and Frosting"; they are now after the "Bakery" from whence the pretty cake came as well.

by Anonymousreply 64May 19, 2019 9:34 PM

R62 the average man doesn't have enough to have to worry about that. And many live off their women.

by Anonymousreply 65May 19, 2019 9:35 PM

R63 Not when you're married. It's an annoying long process. R65 What the fuck are you talking about? Stop spreading lies dumb woman.

by Anonymousreply 66May 19, 2019 9:36 PM

R66 it's true. I'm a man, but I know it's true because I see it all the time. People in general regardless of sex or gender are assholes.

by Anonymousreply 67May 19, 2019 9:39 PM

[quote] women refuse to even date sideways, much less down

YES!! I know many women who develop "lists," as to their "perfect" mate.

In their own words, he has to "check off all the boxes." He has to be rich, handsome, smart, caring, compassionate, emotional, blah blah fucking BLAH.

And then they wonder why they're still single. Fucking idiots.

by Anonymousreply 68May 19, 2019 9:39 PM

I have rich frau friends and everything is a humble brag complaint about their actually fantastic lives. Boring shallow lives breed artificial conflict.

by Anonymousreply 69May 19, 2019 9:41 PM

So why do these men marry them? Why do they then stay with them? Let's hear it, why are these poor angelic straight men unable to leave?

by Anonymousreply 70May 19, 2019 9:42 PM

R70, read R64 -

by Anonymousreply 71May 19, 2019 9:43 PM

Wow, OP sure loves to eavesdrop. How convenient that everything you heard involved women saying things you don't like.

It's funny that gay men attack straight women but give a free pass to straight men, since men are more likely to be gay bashers and be against gay rights.

by Anonymousreply 72May 19, 2019 9:45 PM

R71 those posts are b.s. those women were bitches before the marriage. Yet they married them. Many are only living with their shrews, and STILL stay. So let's hear it, why?

by Anonymousreply 73May 19, 2019 9:48 PM

Good watch re this:

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by Anonymousreply 74May 19, 2019 9:50 PM

[quote] It's funny that gay men attack straight women but give a free pass to straight men, since men are more likely to be gay bashers and be against gay rights.

R72, but we are men, gay or not.

by Anonymousreply 75May 19, 2019 9:50 PM

Who cares?? I don’t give a shit what straight people do.

by Anonymousreply 76May 19, 2019 9:51 PM

Too much hetero talk for a gay site.

by Anonymousreply 77May 19, 2019 9:51 PM

R39 is spot on. Most young women do not behave this way, but it’s the image that gets reinforced over and over again in movies and on TV. Men and women are both portrayed horribly in the media – women as grasping and shallow ball-busters and men as perpetually adolescent slobs or macho pigs. Unfortunately, a minority of both actually have that type of personality, which is then validated by the media, especially comedies and reality TV.

by Anonymousreply 78May 19, 2019 9:54 PM

Pussy pussy pussy

I love pussy

I'm getting married folks!

by Anonymousreply 79May 19, 2019 9:54 PM

You too?

by Anonymousreply 80May 19, 2019 9:55 PM

R76, I do.

1. I know a lot of heterosexuals. They are my friends and family. I wish them well and hate seeing them fall into these traps set by the media and consumerism. 2. For the same reason I care about the local school system: because I have to live in the world these people create.

by Anonymousreply 81May 19, 2019 9:57 PM

R75, most straight men don't consider gays to be "real men"

by Anonymousreply 82May 19, 2019 9:58 PM

I wonder if women just talk like this sometimes because they are just reenforcing what they see in the media. It's what they think a strong woman is suppose to be.

by Anonymousreply 83May 19, 2019 9:59 PM

I disagree that it's reality TV that's caused their attitudes, it's the intellectual class. The cultural zeitgeist is now that women in the west are terribly terribly oppressed, and should be given everything simply because they ask for it. The are to be above accountability and any misfortune is entirley the fault of a sexist society poised against them.

Look at someone like say Jessica Vallenti, and the sort of women who read her shit and take her seriously, it is this that has caused the massive entitlement and victimhood mentallity of millennial women that is causing so amny problems right now.

by Anonymousreply 84May 19, 2019 10:02 PM

OP's little story is straight (no pun intended) out of some incel reddit thread.

The only thing missing would be that the boyfriends were cucks who didn't even know their bitches were screwing other dudes behind their backs while taking their money.

That and one of them just got back from the abortion clinic without telling her boyfriend she got rid of HIS kid.

by Anonymousreply 85May 19, 2019 10:02 PM

I know several straight women who are like the OP describes. A couple of them ended up divorced because the guys finally got up with their controlling bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 86May 19, 2019 10:03 PM

R84 = backwards Republican ranting against intellectuals because he never made it past 4th grade

Republicans like you support MRA types who think men are so oppressed and blame women for all the problems in the world even though 90% of murderers are men

by Anonymousreply 87May 19, 2019 10:08 PM

R86 apparently has never met any controlling straight men and thinks straight guys are all oppressed angels

by Anonymousreply 88May 19, 2019 10:10 PM

[quote]even though 90% of murderers are men

Women are called the weaker sex for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 89May 19, 2019 10:11 PM

there are extremes on all sides. I was just sharing what I encountered today.

What I found most fascinating was that these women didn't seem to mind being this way.

I'd love to meet someone who'd treat me well and I'd do the same back.

That is all.

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by Anonymousreply 90May 19, 2019 10:12 PM

r87 I'm probably one of the more left wing posters on here, and I'm not American thanks.

In regard to your little stat there

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by Anonymousreply 91May 19, 2019 10:14 PM

R7 Love it😂

by Anonymousreply 92May 19, 2019 10:14 PM

R89, men are more likely to commit ALL crimes (except prostitution, lol)

by Anonymousreply 93May 19, 2019 10:15 PM

I am a straight woman and have peripherally known bitches like these. They are insufferable and make me want to choke them out.

One was so lazy, she couldn't even put air into her own tires. That was a "man's" job. Well, that man isn't with her ass anymore.

I believe the OP. I am shocked about how loud people talk and what they talk about it public places. There is absolutely no shame anymore.

by Anonymousreply 94May 19, 2019 10:16 PM

[quote] I came here specifically to get away from them yet they're everywhere here.

There are a million sites where straight men congregate to trash women. Why don't you go there? Here's a major one.

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by Anonymousreply 95May 19, 2019 10:16 PM

Ignore the Birkenbitches, OP. They hate being called out on their selfish bullshit. So they respond by calling gay men “incels” - on a gay site.

What, exactly, are they doing here? Oh yeah, looking for attention, validation and more affirmation they’re always right. Whenever you hit a little close to the bone, they lash out like children.

Block every bitch who made an incel, anti-gay or racist comment. They’re pretty predictable white, suburban bitches who only show up to comment on frau threads anyway . They contribute nothing of value except to preen how awesome they are.

by Anonymousreply 96May 19, 2019 10:16 PM

R94, thank you.

by Anonymousreply 97May 19, 2019 10:20 PM

r96

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by Anonymousreply 98May 19, 2019 10:21 PM

By the time she is out of high school, most young women have learned the power of their pussies. Straight men are COMPELLED to have pussy. They will do anything to get it. They will put up with anything to get it. The young women soon learn to take the reins and control the men in their lives by giving or restricting access to their pussies. They parce out their pussies with mathematical precision. There is no end to this. Until the kids are born. And then, hell yes, as far as getting pussy goes, The End.

If straight men didn't act like total fools every time they get a whiff of pussy, this could not happen, But they do. They give all the power to the woman is giving them pussy. They always have and they always will.

by Anonymousreply 99May 19, 2019 10:21 PM

[quote] [R72], but we are men, gay or not.

Straight people are not your friends, male or not.

by Anonymousreply 100May 19, 2019 10:24 PM

R99 thank you. Finally an answer that rings true. The pussy is a powerful force, and some women abuse the power.

by Anonymousreply 101May 19, 2019 10:24 PM

R96, why are you posting right-wing MRA propaganda on a gay site? You are the one lashing out like a child, calling women juvenile names but accusing others of lashing out. Get a life, and a brain.

by Anonymousreply 102May 19, 2019 10:29 PM

R84 because you write like a retarded cunt, nothing you contribute matters.

by Anonymousreply 103May 19, 2019 10:34 PM

R94 - Republican man pretending to be a woman so his claims will look less biased

by Anonymousreply 104May 19, 2019 10:36 PM

Making up shit is fun, huh OP?

by Anonymousreply 105May 19, 2019 10:38 PM

So untrue.

by Anonymousreply 106May 19, 2019 10:39 PM

r103 I may be a retarded cunt who can't write gud, but I think the content of that post stands up true.

by Anonymousreply 107May 19, 2019 10:41 PM

R107 anyone who writes like a retard like you has zero credibility. Only other retarded cunts might ignore how obnoxious you are.

by Anonymousreply 108May 19, 2019 10:44 PM

We are not ALL like that

by Anonymousreply 109May 19, 2019 10:45 PM

R102 Why are you, a loud mouthed, obnoxious straight woman, trying to order gay men what to do you on a gay site? Why don’t you *check your fucking privilege* and hie your hole back to LSA where you belong, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 110May 19, 2019 10:47 PM

Oh, R109. What in life is ever 100%? Very little. Maybe nothing.

by Anonymousreply 111May 19, 2019 10:47 PM

I 100% love dick. So...

by Anonymousreply 112May 19, 2019 10:49 PM

Uh huh. But not100% of the dicks.

I can think of an orange mushroom shaped dick swamped in Yeti hair that you probably would take a pass on.

by Anonymousreply 113May 19, 2019 10:51 PM

Gotta love guys who call women "cunts" - Trump voting misogynist losers, be gone.

by Anonymousreply 114May 19, 2019 10:59 PM

I was interested in the figures R91 compiled. So i looked up the details for most of them.

OSHA of course published detailed data for workplace related injury, which includes falls from scaffolding, agricultural and ranching accidents and death from inhalants in the workplace. Despite dramatic increases in opiate abuse on the job, workplace injuries have decreased to less than 1% in 2017. In other words, fewer than 1 in a hundred workers now suffers workplace injuries in the US. The statistics OSHA provides though, lists all 263 countries of the world, and surprisingly, for most countries they are pretty close to American levels. Men fall from heights, get trampled by horses, have farm equipment accidents, get into truck crashes, refuse to wear face masks ---- all over the world. Women generally ARE more timid: women do not as frequently step to dangerous unsupported heights to yell, "I'm king of the woooooorrrrllllddddd." As they then fall to their deaths. So there is that. There is also the facts that these higher risk occupations pay more money, and are typically male-dominated and/or unionized. Window-washers, long-distance truck drivers, cowboys, farm workers (except or laborers who pick crops), heavy equipment operators routinely prohibit women from holding those jobs because of union and safety considerations. I have driven a cab as the only female cabbie in a company run by men and Zi am here to tell you, they make it hard on and woman. They screw you over every chance they get and they make you feel terrible for even having the nerve to want to work there.

Back to R91's facts.

Lethal Workplace accidents do occur 10 times more frequently for males than females. In part it is self-selecting for occupational requirements. In part it is wage based. When long-distance truk driving is auromated with only a few low-paying jobs remaining, women will makes inroadse into the career paths at much reduced compensation. And human accident rates will undoubtedly decline as well.

What about murder rates? Yes it is true that the majority of murder victims in the US (i.e., 78%) are male. As are the vast mjority of gun-owners, drug dealers and criminals. Accounting for the disproportionate number of violent offenders in the equally disproportionately male prison population. Surprise, surprise, men are more violent than women. R91 implied there is a component of chivalry in this statistic that is imply not there. Men are not dying at elevated rates because they stepped in front of a gun to orotect the mother of his children. They are dying because they enter into a lot of drug deals, rob liquor stores, and kidnap child sex slaves. Interesting statistic: more pregnant women in the US as murder victims at the hands of the fathers of their babies than die giving birth. In fact it is the leading cause of death amongst pregnant women in the US.

Suicide? It's true. Men commit suicide at roughly three times the rate of women. As a geneticist (i am driving the cab part-time for a vacation fund), i am fascinated by this, as the genetics of depression are becoming ever more finely elucidated. Is this a biological risk factor? Are males programmed to do themselves in?

Doubtful. Most increases in suiide rates become disproportionately male after age 60.

R91 seemed to make the argument that the hard-working Marlboro man of yesteryear romances gets the shaft, so to speak, and at every turn. I think that's wrong. Testosterone makes people assholes in a multitude of ways: makes them go to war, take unnecessary chances with their safety, develop insane jealousy and murderous impulses, and then who knows.? Do themselves in when all expectations have failed.

In any case, women may be selfish and greedy, but they are clearly not, in general (with some excptions, to be sure) not the recipients of gallant male largesse.

by Anonymousreply 115May 19, 2019 11:01 PM

Why are most murderers, child porn viewers, rapists, burglars, embezzlers, con artists, and gay bashers male? Why are men more likely to vote GOP and be against gay rights?

by Anonymousreply 116May 19, 2019 11:03 PM

Sorry for the typos. Risky behavior confession: typing on my ipad, in the tub.

by Anonymousreply 117May 19, 2019 11:04 PM

This thread is nothing but annoying cunts, just like straight women.

by Anonymousreply 118May 19, 2019 11:05 PM

R118 = annoying men's rights troll

by Anonymousreply 119May 19, 2019 11:06 PM

I agree with others. Straight women and their tampon full of repulsive problems should never be allowed on DL.

by Anonymousreply 120May 19, 2019 11:09 PM

R118. So sorry. You poor darling! Forced to endure female defensiveness in a thread ntitled "straight women who want to do everything for them"! Where is the justice?

When gay men get together and bemoan the sorry state of straight American womanhood, they ought to be left in peace, even Encouraged. Do they not suffer enough? Anything else is clearly undeserved entitledness from "the cunts" who win with 90% of the population in all things sexual.

by Anonymousreply 121May 19, 2019 11:10 PM

R113...

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by Anonymousreply 122May 19, 2019 11:12 PM

The only thing worse than a resentful little gayling, bitter that his hunky history professor is flirting with the blond cheerleader in the front row, who doesn't even appreciate it....

Is a stupid one.

by Anonymousreply 123May 19, 2019 11:13 PM

R120, I don't think anti-woman Trumpsters should be allowed on a gay board

by Anonymousreply 124May 19, 2019 11:15 PM

Oh snap! Is that you talking or your panty full of cunt and tampon.

by Anonymousreply 125May 19, 2019 11:18 PM

R116 men are more likely to be violent and aggressive and take chances because of testosterone levels but also because evolutionarily women need to be timid, they need to be selfless in order to raise children. Its also why women's main concern when it comes to men is how they can provide it's evolutionary and it is also socially indoctrinated.

by Anonymousreply 126May 19, 2019 11:19 PM

OP, so true! I have never EVER heard a gay man saying self-involved, narcissistic things. Or being superficial. Or absolutely HAVING to have the latest, trending tchotchkes.

by Anonymousreply 127May 19, 2019 11:20 PM

R126. Please, bitch. “Selfless women”. I’m going to go throw up now. Did all the hags at LSA decide on a pub crawl or is the Words with Fraus dayy?

by Anonymousreply 128May 19, 2019 11:21 PM

R128 there are always exceptions to the rule, but as a rule women need to be able to care for their families and for their kids especially for a very long time whether a man stays around or not, and they need to be alive to do so, not out taking chances and conquering the world or doing violent things that can prevent that.

by Anonymousreply 129May 19, 2019 11:25 PM

[quote]. Not once did I hear what they were doing for these guys; just what they could get out of them.

Cooking, cleaning, organising, anal.

by Anonymousreply 130May 19, 2019 11:26 PM

So all this is now Misogyny by Proxy

by Anonymousreply 131May 19, 2019 11:27 PM

R129 Are you stuck in the 1950s? Nobody buys that crap.

On my street, 2/3rds of the women work full time. Most of the families have au pairs. The women don’t care for the families - the au pairs are doing all that . The women, frequently, are at each other’s houses or out having a girl’s night out and getting shit faced.

The kids? Yeah. The au pairs are doing the work and each year they get a new one. I’ve lost track how many au pairs there have been here. The only families that don’t have au pairs are the muslims.

by Anonymousreply 132May 19, 2019 11:29 PM

R132 people don't change millions of years of evolution because of what's happened in the past 50, wake the hell up.

by Anonymousreply 133May 19, 2019 11:31 PM

By the way, it's also the reason that men are so concerned with looks when taking a mate, even if they're gay. Good looks are an indication generally of good health for breeding.

by Anonymousreply 134May 19, 2019 11:33 PM

And youth.

by Anonymousreply 135May 19, 2019 11:35 PM

Men and women should stop buying into the idea that they need to be married and have children. It doesn't work for a lot of people and they go on to live a miserable life.

by Anonymousreply 136May 19, 2019 11:37 PM

R136 they would still have sex and breed, it's not buying into anything it's a biological drive.

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by Anonymousreply 137May 19, 2019 11:39 PM

marriages should be on a 5 year plan. the man should still have to support the kids, but generally, straight guys don't want some long term marriage to the same woman.

by Anonymousreply 138May 19, 2019 11:43 PM

Why are straight me so stupid?

by Anonymousreply 139May 19, 2019 11:55 PM

[quote] By the way, it's also the reason that men are so concerned with looks when taking a mate, even if they're gay. Good looks are an indication generally of good health for breeding.

Yes, but gay men can't breed.

by Anonymousreply 140May 20, 2019 12:29 AM

R140. Many women shouldn’t. And unless, straight women have acquired parthogenesis - they can’t breed without men, either.

by Anonymousreply 141May 20, 2019 12:32 AM

"Yes, but gay men can't breed."

Doesn't matter, still men. That's why we need sex, and lots of it even though we don't breed.

by Anonymousreply 142May 20, 2019 12:37 AM

R140, see r133.

by Anonymousreply 143May 20, 2019 12:38 AM

Yeah, but if good looks are about breeding, then why would gay men be interested in them?

by Anonymousreply 144May 20, 2019 12:39 AM

Because men’s genetic makeup is largely the same, gay or straight. Evolution.

by Anonymousreply 145May 20, 2019 12:40 AM

Who knows, but gay men are not too different from straight men in their attitudes towards sex partners, dating, etc

by Anonymousreply 146May 20, 2019 12:41 AM

Here's Brad, finally nailing the "Cake, Frosting, AND the Bakery," for the Win.

Previous "Bakeries": Juliette Lewis (Geoffrey Lewis, father/actor) and Goop (Brice Paltrow / Blythe Danner, parents/Very well connected); Jennifer Aniston (John Aniston, father/actor and also connected)

(Angie: Jon Voight, father/Oscar winner; Brad: Rent-a-Trick)

Dare: Name another 'Actor' with similar 'achievements.'

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by Anonymousreply 147May 20, 2019 12:51 AM

Same biological drive, just a different sexual object of focus.

by Anonymousreply 148May 20, 2019 12:52 AM

R134. Right. Because two gay men are really into getting pregnant and having kids when they first look at each other.

Your biological imperative is just made up nonsense for fraus to feel a sense of accomplishment - and a sense of power in a relationship. Otherwise, when their tits sag and their ass drops, their husband kicks them to the curb and gets a younger model. Women want a 21st model of equality in somethings, but still have a 19th century century argument for female helplessness when it comes to child raising.

It’s always about creating assured power in the relationship, but whatever means necessary.

by Anonymousreply 149May 20, 2019 1:13 AM

These poor, unhappy straight men ought to go after MtFs. More likely to 'think' the same and aren't able to pop out the (unwelcome to the straight male) spawn. Into anal and they could help pick out her store bought titlies, which won't sag like a bio woman. While she's getting her tits done, they could get her face and neck done, too.

Seriously, straight dudes and MtFs...a match made in heaven.

by Anonymousreply 150May 20, 2019 1:45 AM

r150 go back to r/GenderCritical mon poisson amie

by Anonymousreply 151May 20, 2019 1:54 AM

r105, it may be but I didn't make this up. It happened today and I came home and wrote about it.

Gay or straight, men or women, I find it sad that people make relationships all about themselves, what they can get, how they can win...it's not love. It's hate.

I hate it.

No, I wasn't making it all up.

by Anonymousreply 152May 20, 2019 1:59 AM

R149 does raise some interesting points. The idea of marriage being a lifelong contract has built into it job security for women whose bodies are worn down by child bearing. Being replaced by a younger model would happen MUCH MORE FREQUENTLY if divorce and property distribution were not so expensive.

Perhaps the 'sister wives' polygamous extended family is the best arrangement for men and for women. The men get reasonable access to some variety in bed and to a reasonable number of younger women. The women get their husband, their children, their home, lifetime job security, and some built in baby sitters, from time to time, as necessary.

Except for the fact that women hate each other and would be cat-fighting all the time, it's a brilliant solution to a number of pressing problems.

by Anonymousreply 153May 20, 2019 12:48 PM

[quote]Perhaps the 'sister wives' polygamous extended family is the best arrangement for men and for women. The men get reasonable access to some variety in bed and to a reasonable number of younger women. The women get their husband, their children, their home, lifetime job security, and some built in baby sitters, from time to time, as necessary.

Would you consider this a viable option if women were also allowed to have as many husbands as they wanted to get reasonable access to some variety in bed and reasonable security in case the husband dies poor leaving them with nothing after sharing the estate with several other wives and their broods?

by Anonymousreply 154May 20, 2019 12:57 PM

Not to worry, R154. The kids will get Social Security survivor benefits.

Women do not need to marry to get access to sex with men. If a woman is willing, there is ALWAYS a straight man ready to go. Your question is just silly.

by Anonymousreply 155May 20, 2019 1:02 PM

[quote]Women do not need to marry to get access to sex with men. If a woman is willing, there is ALWAYS a straight man ready to go. Your question is just silly.

Oh, it's MY question that's silly and not r153's "brilliant" premise of men having harems of women at their sexual beck and call in order to trade for "lifetime job security."

by Anonymousreply 156May 20, 2019 1:11 PM

Yes, that is correct, R156.

by Anonymousreply 157May 20, 2019 1:15 PM

As if I were asking it as a real question, r157.

by Anonymousreply 158May 20, 2019 1:25 PM

Silly gurrl. Your attempt at sarcasm was ham-fisted, but it was obvious. It was best to agree with you and move on.

by Anonymousreply 159May 20, 2019 1:27 PM

R153 is an imbecile

by Anonymousreply 160May 20, 2019 1:42 PM

OP, these three women at the coffee shop – were they so beautiful that straight men would put up with all their shit? Or were they like Jennifer Aniston (i.e., in shape but plain in the face and greatly enhanced by makeup, expensive clothes, and high maintenance hair)?

by Anonymousreply 161May 20, 2019 2:42 PM

more like Aniston but with ZERO likability and not nearly as pretty. (though, thanks, DL, I'll always remember the poster who said she looks like Dustin Hoffman.)

The whole thing was kind of chilling because they were all in unison with each other: we deserve this. this guy doesn't believe in changing his décor (and the other two chime in with a tone of 'what an idiot'). we're spending his money on our vacation.

It was tempting to just say as I was leaving something like, 'wow. ladies, these guys are sound like losers. you should leave them. that'll show 'em. go find someone who deserves you!'

by Anonymousreply 162May 20, 2019 2:48 PM

I do think there is real confusion with whatever-wave feminism. Clearly there are elements of the old model that a lot of women want - and many men are happy to provide to validate their manliness. But the equality dynamic is perverted by the demanding stay at home wife who doesn’t feel she should only be a mother - but also doesn’t want to work. Like my brother and wife.

Then there is the woman who basically does everything - brings home the money, takes care of the kids and runs the house - where the husband is a useless abused version of another child. Or the husband is not even around.

The best straight marriages I’ve seen are where both work, equal support, housekeepers and nannies to take care of domestic duties. Which is more of the gay model. I think instead of gays adopting the straight marriage model, straights should adopt the gay model which eliminates the presuppositions involved in the traditional concepts of marriage.

by Anonymousreply 163May 20, 2019 2:50 PM

I feel sorry for the children these materialistic women will produce with their shallow husbands.

by Anonymousreply 164May 20, 2019 2:55 PM

May I ask R163, who are these housekeepers and nannies?

by Anonymousreply 165May 23, 2019 1:57 AM

Love people like r153 who think "women hate each other" even though most of the violence in the world is male-on-male

by Anonymousreply 166May 23, 2019 2:02 AM

r166, Yes, however, the social brutality among and between women isn't to be denied.

by Anonymousreply 167May 23, 2019 2:22 AM

Yeah, because there's no social brutality between men - what do you think politics is all about? Della must be one of those straight women who think putting down other women will make her seem cooler in comparison.

by Anonymousreply 168May 23, 2019 4:00 PM

R163, i too want to know, who are these nannies and housekeepers of which you speak?

So as I understand it, life is great ---- as long as there is enough money to pay people to do the shitwork. That is "the gay model"?

by Anonymousreply 169May 29, 2019 4:34 PM

R166 yeah right. The hatred and brutality dished out by females to other females is 1000 times worse than males on other males. Men in general don't gossip, they are more discreet about it.

by Anonymousreply 170May 29, 2019 7:57 PM

Gossip is the height of brutality? Well then, judging by this site, gay men might be the worst.

by Anonymousreply 171May 30, 2019 12:53 AM

If the straight man is dumb enough to fuck them, he deserves it.

by Anonymousreply 172May 30, 2019 1:03 AM
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