British Royal Family Gossip: Part 58

Link to the previous Part 57.

Lady Gabriella Windsor looks like a freak.

R2 - Oh please, I leave you in the dust, Meghan gurl! My wedding dress actually fits me and my hair isn't a mess. But thanks for dropping by, bitch!

I hope we get to see the other dresses she will wear. She is stunning and stylish.

She's so ugly.

R3 Those royal born women showing MM how it's really done.

R5 - if you have nothing of value to contribute to this discussion, kindly sod off. There's a dear.

The horror that is Fergie.

R7 = Princess Michael 'Blackamoor' of Kunt

Bea's horrid dress.

R9 - all right, bitch! You're blocked.

R11 -Princess Michael throwing yet another of her tiresome tantrums.

Let's face it dear, your daughter fell out of the same ugly tree that you did all those centuries ago.

Note to drama queens: nobody cares who you block.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The Queen all bundled up as a young girl.

I think Bea looks good. Fergie could have looked great, all she needed to do was go a size up

R14, I can't figure out how tall she is, although I know she's a catwalk model. Does her baby face hide her height? I only see her as teeny tiny.

I do not get why Fergie always gets it wrong. If I were invited to that wedding and had made unpopular sartorial choices in the past, I would march into Harvey Nichols and enlist the aid of the personal shopper, whom I'm sure knows his/her business. Or even a salesgirl who had just been hired yesterday..

Love the Empress Sissi hairstyle of the bride.

She MUST be tiny, I guess, on the catwalks through connections I suppose.

R17. I can't believe Lady Amelia Butterface is really a catwalk model.

It's great to see the Queen and Prince Philip in good health and spirits.

The Queen's outfit was one of the best of the day.

Thomas the groom is handsome.

Has the Queen had work done. Her face looks rather stretched in R23 's pic.

Thank God Philip didn't - heaven forbid - kill or seriously injure anyone in that car accident. What a pall that would have cast over everything.

That unpleasant thought aside, it looks like a fun family wedding. You get the sense Gabriella is well liked.

The Queen is hands down the best-dressed woman in the world.

R24 the groom is so much more attractive than horserace Gabriella.

R21 The Spencer girls are Dolce and Gabanna muses. Amelia is about 5'6"

Agreed, r27.

I think Ella may be near to 6 feet.

Forgot to add, r27, that the only other woman I would almost put at her level is The Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R2 - Meghan, dear - I'm sure they'd have you let you attend if you insisted.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Lady Gabriella's grandfather was Baron Günther von Reibnitz, a prominent Nazi.

R33 - Agreed, she looks appalling. The Glouncesters look appalling as well - the bright red and blue combination on, who is it, Lady Rose? is also dreadful.

I don't know what happens to women when they attend royal weddings.

I think Lady Kitty Spencer is about to become engaged that 60 year old High Street chain tycoon - she was wearing an enormous diamond recently in New York but on her right hand.

But I suppose Bea and that mountebank looking for the cameras will be next, and I'm guessing that Eugenie isn't there because she's pregnant and showing, and unlike Meghan, didn't want to ruin another girl's wedding.

As for the absense of William and Kate - there's nothing in it at all, to reply to the poster from the other thread. William missed the FA cup last year due to the Sussex wedding and as patron, and with his brother and grand and plenty of other royals on hand, the Cambridges weren't really required.

Charles and Camilla do not appear anywhere, either.

With the Queen, Philip (another surprise appearance), Bea, the Gloucesters, the roster of royal guests is appropriately filled.

What's this about horseface? I think Lady Gabriella is gorgeous. Her strong features perfectly suit her face. Princesses Bea and Eugenie are probably seething with jealousy they didn't get her looks.

R36 - Quite a long time ago, I saw a documentary on the royals that included an interview with the then much younger Prince and Pss. Michael of Kent. Pss. Michael was asked about her Catholicism, her background, and the faint aura of disapproval around the marriage (as a divorcee and a Catholic, never mind her father's history) and she became quite defensive and actually said that apart from her mother-in-law she had a "better background" than anyone else who had married into the family. But the best moment was when the interviewer asked what would have happened if the Queen had refused permission for the marriage (yes, despite being rather far down, Prince Michael had to ask formally), and he actually replied calmly, "Well, then, I suppose we wouldn't have [married]" or words to that effect, and Marie-Christine turned and gave him a wide-eyed shocked look.

Lady Amelia Windsor's brother Edward Lord Downpatrick will be the first Roman Catholic Duke of Kent since the reformation. He's not that cute neither is the other sister Marina

R41 - Isn't Marina the rebellious child who got her nose pierced and ran off with some lowlife indulging herself in slumming before returning to the fold?

R42 no that was Marina Ogilvy, Princess Alexandra's daughter. I wonder what became of her, she would be in her 50's now

“that mountebank looking for the cameras”

Bravo! I do hope he marries in, though.

Marina Ogilvy's brother James was there at the wedding, I'll have to search for the older Marina. The Kents must like the name

Gabriella is another fugtastic giantess like Kate, with a face like a camel. Meghan is so much prettier and more petite.

R39 - the Royal Family all have equine DNA, it's scientifically proven.

R39 - Gabriella is not pretty-pretty but striking and knows how to dress her strong features and large frame. She looks handsome and elegant and her choices here are perfect. However, I disagree about Eugenie and Bea - I think Eugnie the prettiest of the three, but doesn't have the sureness of style that Gabriella has, and Bea is hopeless. Bea dresses for the girl she fantasises herself to be instead of the girl she really is. She could look much, much better, but she cannot stop dressing herself as if she were Kate Middleton, and even the tall, slim Kate with her small neat features couldn't carry off half the stuff Bea puts on.

The hat Bea is wearing is perfectly fine and I like her hair up - she has lovely skin and colouring like most of the women in the family, but like Meghan, she simply doesn't know how to dress that body. Those frills on that appalling dress hse is wearing today make Diana's merengue wedding dress look like something Carolyn Bessette would have worn.

M would love to have the legs and beautiful hair of Kate and her height . You look better when you are tall and did I mention slender ?

The mountebank (hat tip to the poster above) seems to have sleek, minimalist tastes, at least according to his Instagram. Why doesn’t he help Beatrice?

r46 If Meghan is so much prettier that everyone else, why do you feel the need to keep drawing attention to it? If she is, it would be quite obvious. You don't need to state it. As it is, your need to attack the looks of others, whilst simultaneously attempting elevate your fav has the reverse effect. You strike me as someone quite insecure about the looks of their fav who has a short boxy body and seems incapable of dressing appropriately for her body type.

R44 - Bea looks determined to get herself off the spinster shelf so we may expect him to do so. But as a man with a younger sister who came a-cropper with a bad lot and a much-loved niece who went through some bad patches before finding a decent fellow, I cannot help feeling a bit sad and protective watching Bea head off this cliff. No woman deserves that.

Harry looks like the guest no one wants to talk to that keeps pushing in on others conversations. You can tell Sophie is just being polite as he walks beside her. Why isn't he walking with his uncles. The Kents aren't that close to William and Harry. He's a bit pathetic and you just know that Meghan has shoved him out of the house to get new photos for her Stans.

R32 Yes she always looks pulled together. I can’t really characterize her clothing, but her hair and whatever facial work she’s had done is fantastic. She also has a lush figure, though trim in the right places.

A video of the somewhat chaste kiss on the steps.

R51 It's the same boring megastan that turns up here regularly to post inane things. They are either 12 years old or have had a head injury. Just ignore them and they go away, like an annoying toddler.

R51 - Spot on.

Ella resembles her aunt Princess Alexandra of Kent. I can see similarities between the wedding dresses too.

There are no words.

Hyper Harry desperately attempting to pump some life back into Philip the Grim Reaper. The bearded dude is either Columbus or Cassius Taylor, Lady Helen's son.

Bridal fashion factoid: first thanks for that photo of Pss. Alexandra's somewhat similar wedding dress. When the dress was nearly complete and they were actually rehearsing the wedding, the train proved very difficult to maneuver, and suddenly, Pss. Alexandra simply rasied the train to the top of her head under the tiara and it served as the veil and train at the same time.

And speaking of tiaras, for the Tiara Crowd here, it is worth watching the video of the couple leaving the church, because only when Gabriella steps out into the sunshine can you see the diamonds in the tiara sparkling brilliantly and you get the impact of what it means to wear something like that on your head. . . . it's just beautiful amidst the white tulle.

I hear you R59, and can someone please explain this / these guests to me?

R62, a poster on the previous thread has guessed that they could be Brown Velvet Lady's sisters. In fact, she's very quiet today, it could be her, herself, lol.

I’m so ashamed of initially liking the dress in R59. In my defense, it was based on a side view.

And I’m still delighted with the use of “mountebank.” We need to bring back some of these old words.

Wonder if the next big wedding will be Bea’s or James’. Or could Kitty Spencer overtake them all.

Why do the royal couples kiss on the church steps (or the balcony, in the case of Westminster Abbey) rather than at the end of the ceremony? Why doesn't the vicar say, "I now pronounce you man and wife, you may now kiss the bride"?

Come and stand in the corner with us baby blue ostriches, R 64

R60 I think it is Cassius, he looks a lot like his mother. His father Timothy is quite the silver fox.

Whoops R64 ^^^

I guess they can't see at the back of these places R66, so they wait till till they are out? And off course for the press, too.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

In the midst of wedding frock horror, did anyone watch the Gayle King special? Apparently BP released a statement that Meghan had nothing to do with the special nor did she give her friends permission to talk about her. Given that King visited Meghan shortly before the birth, this sounds lame and specious, to say the least, and many of the fraus on CB who saw it described it as "a piece of fluff" the weeping Not Good, and universal doubts it would change anyone's negative opinion of Meghan. The programme didn't even run in many areas of the US, apparently. The Windsor wedding appears also have to eclipsed coverage of it here, an irony that should come under the heading of Karma Is A Bitch.

[quote]I do not get why Fergie always gets it wrong.

I think, truth be told, Fergie is actually wrong's representative on earth.

Elizabeth was born to reign, Fergie to wrong. It's just God's plan.

You're probably right, R70

The Bridal Party

Mr Kingston’s Best Men were Mr Benjamin Crow, Mr Daniel Crow and Mr Jamie Campbell.

The Bridesmaids were Miss Isabella Windsor, Miss Maud Windsor, Miss Leonora Weisman, Miss Aurelia del Drago, Miss Eliza Goldsmith and Miss Emily Conolly.

The Pageboys were Master Frederick Murray, Master Rafferty Murray and Master Karim Khawaja.

Miss Estella Taylor, Miss Jessie Conolly and Miss Hannah Conolly were Special Attendants.

Does anybody has the name of the guy wearing the tartan trousers ? Is he family of Gabriella Windsor .

The entire Middleton clan was there but no Kate and Wills? I read the explanation upthread, but still....

Whoops here is the link

That dress is not something I would expect people to wear to a wedding, esp in a church, R10.

I really get the feeling Harry was trying to do damage control by ingratiating himself to his family. MM probably stayed home because she knew she looked like a whale.

Miss Eliza Goldsmith, of the Goldsmith Goldsmiths?

The Queen, did, indeed, look lovely. Great color and love the texture. Glad to see her looking well and relaxed.

Did Harry always look a bit distant from his family? Wondering. Did all the 3rd wheeling with William and Cath mask that? Or is he deeply in the doghouse? His grandmother was not all that warm. Harry has really mucked things up with his poor choice.

Meghan wasn't allowed!

I find myself strangely glad Meghan wasn’t there. It feels like a relief.

R80 haha yes hoping that hapless Harry will upstage the bride except he looks so out of place there. I see Andrew is constantly minding the Queen, I wonder is this just him protecting his mother or the Queen has asked him to stay close to prevent Harry leaching on to her.

At this point, I actually think Beatrice wears daft outfits for the fun of it. I think she's trying to create the image of the quirky royal. Eugenie started dressing more conservatively quite recently, so she must not have liked being mocked for her fashion sense. But Beatrice seems to have made a conscious decision NOT to play it safe. She did wear a pretty sensible dress when she was Eugenie's maid of honour, but maybe that's because she was worried about embarrassing her sister on her big day.

R77 It's been explained, he's the President of the FA, he has to go to the FA cup. If you were British you would understand how big the FA cup final is here. Much bigger than any royal wedding including MM and Harry's. William was forced to miss it last year, it would be unforgivable to do it again just for a cousins wedding. Kate generally doesn't go to royal weddings without William and the Middletons are good friends with the grooms family. it's not mysterious or hard to understand. That's now the royals work. Charles and Camilla hardly turn up to weddings. No one gets offended unless they aren't invited at all. That's why it was shocking that Harry and MM didn't invite so many royal cousins to their wedding.

I just cannot keep up with these threads, they move so fast!

At the risk of it already being posted, but not yet read by me, may I ask (beg) for some clarification on R417 of thread 56, which referred to Harry turning up drunk around the Cambridge children? I'm just dying to know more.

R82 He really does look like an outsider that they are just tolerating for the cameras.

Some royal reporter on Twitter noted that it was generous of Gabriella to invite Harry and presumably Meghan, seeing as how they didn’t invite her to theirs. He also noted that it’s good to see actual Royals at a wedding rather than minor celebrities who barely know the bride and groom. Meow!

Meghan - not even Harry, but Meghan - should have insisted on inviting every Royal cousin and distant relative possible to her wedding, just to curry favor and get allies.

Ill never understand either, why these modern royals, with their infinite funds, dont employ stylists, trendsetters, hair/make up experts etc in this instagram age. The whole wedding dressage was a freak show. Sorry, even Bea in her cheap-looking taffeta rag (color was nice though) and the horse face man-bride.

Brits, thinking this is an aristo thing, because so many regular Brits and Brit celebrities always look terrific. Perhaps a bit too much self-tanning lotion, but hair and style are always great. Does knowing that you never have to work for a living or that you have a title immediately negate any care for one’s outer appearance?

So far, I'm going to have to say that this was one of the worst weddings for people watching The outfits and hats were just not memorable. Thank God the bride and the Queen came through or it would have been a total dude.

Harry really is annoying . He didn't invite today's bride to his wedding but shows up here anyway.

I love the bride's silhouette from the back too.

Is that right, R87? I remember Dim inviting friends to the ceremony but not the reception, with other long time friends left out entirely. Had not realized that he cut out cousins as well. What a way to create ill will. Orka and the Clooneys will not spend family holidays with your kids nor visit you when you are ill or old. The shabby treatment of family was a poor Markle trait for him to adopt. Or, did he share that sentiment to begin with, with PR deflecting?

All the photos of him with Catherine, both laughing, created an impression of him that may not have a basis in reality. He was said not to tolerate her to be spoken ill of in his presence, great image of loving BIL, then his wife appears to spread rumors about her marriage, her rudeness and even her tiny children. WTF? Was Harry like her all along, or is he one of those men with no core personality who kind of morphs into every gfriend, a la Brad Pitt (albeit with less hair dying). One wonders. Remembering William apologizing for him and wondering if he was as rude as Me-Gain all along?

Carole Middleton looked fine.

[quote] I do not get why Fergie always gets it wrong

There are certain people (like Fergie & Beatrice) who look like shit, no matter what. Fergie actually wears expensive clothes. They just look like shit on her. It doesn't help that fergie usually always wears something a size too small that makes her look like a sausage. And some people like Diana or Kate, look good in something from Topshop (inexpensive store)

R94 - yep, Harry shows up at the wedding of a cousin he didn't bother to invite to his. Really bad form. Andrew looks like he'd like to give him a smack.

hair dyeing, wish there was an edit button

Carole always looks lovely. Fergie would have looked nice in a bigger size.

Was Papa Middleton in attendance or just Carole and the kids??

R99 - oh look Edo is giving Nutmeg a run for her money as the "Most Irritating Camera Seeker". He finds the camera again in the photo below.

R100 - yes, Papa Middleton was there.

The bride and groom leaving St George's Chapel.

It got a little crowded on the steps.

What an extremely handsome couple they make.

Pippa looked terrible. Her dress cost something like 900 pounds (almost $1800).

She fucked the groom too. So you know he's a social climber

I like to imagine Edo marrying in, and he and Meghan making wary chitchat with each other at family gatherings. Wary because each knows their own type.

I am sure Andrew has not forgotten Me-Me and her antics at the wedding of his daughter. He looks like he was guarding the Queen from Harry.

All the needless drama, chaos and pot stirring, and actual hurt to family members, not to mention the damage to the family business. No wonder he looks uneasy.

Will hunt for photos of Michael, have only seen them cropped to Carole. Hope their marriage is hanging on, it has been a rock for William and the kids. Shame they had to miss family hols due to that narc and her antics. The little Christmas trees for the children to decorate sounded lovely. No matter how much they cater to Me-Gain, she just keeps trying to trash them and the institution. Guess appearances matter though. It did look like they were trying. People like this though, it is them.

Seems to have been a lovely wedding. The bride, groom and attendants all look wonderful. It does make me question why the dresses for Me-Gain and her attendants looked poorly fitted and not nearly as nice?

Striking couple.

The kids were adorable and the flowers very nice as well.

Lady Helen and her husband Tim Taylor.

The snub from the Sussex wedding was actually brought up again, today.

I didn't mind Pippa's dress but it needed a hat with pizzazz to jazz it up a bit.

Pa Middleton is here!

I liked Pippa's look, but I'm one of the baby blue ostriches still standing in the corner.

What’s with all this innuendo about Pa Middleton?

The HazBeans had an enormous wedding. How could he snub his own cousins and old friends?

R115 - they had to make room for Meghan's Hollywood "friends" like Oprah and the Clooneys. Come on, they're more important than the "family she never had".

[quote] Harry really is annoying . He didn't invite today's bride to his wedding

You don't know that. Just because she didn't go doesn't mean she wasn't invited. She may have had some prior engagement. Just like like William did for this wedding. And I guess Kate just didn't want to go. She doesn't like going to anyone's wedding

The Queen didn't go to Gabriella's brother's wedding. Neither did Charles, Harry, William or Kate. I'm sure the York girls attended. They'll attend the opening of an envelope

R114 - some idiot on here has been spreading rumors about the Middleton marriage. They don't live together. Michael is having an affair and Ma Middleton has a room to Kate and Will. Bull shit.

R117 - obviously you didn't read the article @R110.

Pippa has a Wallace Windsor quality about her. The both of them are/were pan faced, plain boring women. Pippie looks like she's aged 10 years since her wedding

Gabriella's family. Frightful Freddie is giving the Grim Reaper some competition.

The Marty Feldman comparison at the end of the last thread killed me off.

The Middletons are a very handsome couple.

Talk about planted PR, this is only true in the delusions of Me-Gain!

How Harry NEEDS Meghan Markle 'more than she needs him' – 'Meghan holds ALL the cards' - my sides!

The bride's niece Isabella Windsor is tired of the fuss.

When Prince Michael of Kent was born he was 7th in line to the throne, just like Archie Harrison. Now Prince Michael is 48th in line, that is why Archie isn't that important in the scheme of things

[quote] [R117] - obviously you didn't read the article @[R110].

Well, if it was in the Express it has maybe a 50% chance of being true

The Daily Express is more obsessed with Meghan than all the other tabloids put together.

The bride's mother Princess Michael of Kent. Her hodge podge outfit is all sorts of wrong.

The groom wore a pink tie so how can DL NOT like him. LOL.

The Palace had to be horrified that Gayle rambled on about the stats of merching Meg. To say she was uninvolved is implausible. They need to be more careful in issues surrounding her so that they do not impact their own credibility, as with the she is in labor announcement 8 hours after the birth.

So when are the sold photos of Archie coming? You know they tried for Jolie/Pitt money from someone. Surely the $ will be said to go to some charity they can skim from.

Edward got Anne's memo - Please wear something yellow to complement my outfit. Thank you.

Who let the hippy riff raff in?

Short video, look how her tiara sparkles in the sun! I love Andrew is constantly guarding the Queen from Harry

James Middleton’s girlfriend is very French isn’t she. I do like how the dress complements her hair color. And the little hat is cute.

Princess Eugenie didn't attend but she posted her congratulations to the couple on Instagram.

R133 Everything looks heavenly - the bride and groom, the flowers, the little children. But those planes roaring overhead, ye gods. I see what they mean about it being a detriment to living at FrogCot.

The stuff some people on here read into pictures. Andrew does not look at all hostile towards Harry; how does anyone know how the Queen treated Harry; was there a continuous tape going the whole time? In the video above, Harry is seen smiling and chatting with Princess Anne, the Middletons and also the Queen and Prince Philip. Andrew seems as though he was taking on the role of the eldest son in the place of Prince Charles.

The bride is quite a beauty.

Recently saw some pics from Cannes of some instagram-famous woman who looked atrocious in broad daylight, but whose posed/lighted/face-tuned pics probably convince the gullible.

I agree that Harry's interactions with his family seem perfectly cordial.

It's the end of an era. The Household Cavalry parades at Windsor for the last time. They've been there for over 200 years.

Let me try that again.

Oh now I'm screaming over the purple spring meadow ensemble, with the barrel of purple flowers hat. ( from the video above) ...it did look wonderful this afternoon...were we ALL tipsy?

The Kent ladies - Alexandra vs. Gabriella wedding dresses.

R142 All right, I liked it, then disavowed, and now I like it again. It’s a silly, fanciful, springtime confection. When she and the pink dress lady are straightening out the bridal train, they look like squat little fairies.

Gabriella and a friend.

'So when are the sold photos of Archie coming? You know they tried for Jolie/Pitt money...'

Never. They won't sell any pictures. You also thought Gayle's show would include interviews with MM and even Frogmore interiors, and you were wrong.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The sun came out.

A sweet moment between aunt and niece.

R146, no-one did, as no-one believes they are in Froggy Hollow.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Tears streaming down my face, now, squat little fairies, R144. I totally get you, lol

Photos of the bride's arrival with her father. Unlike Duchess Yoko, her veil was in proportion to her train.

A kiss for her niece.

I'm one of the baby blue ( but eggshell sounds better) ostrich fans, R151, and we were told to go and stand in the corner, haha. I absolutely loved it.

Sophie Winkelman is much prettier than that huge camel toothed bride.

Poor sad little R146 still can't cope with the truth and thinks Meghan is in the Tower of London.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Was Sophie Winkleman also an actress who married in? Has she been behaving herself? I realize Lord Freddie is not as prominent as Harry but still.

The tiara is a family heirloom.

The bride's pretty bouquet can be seen through the car window.

Three royal weddings at St George's Chapel within a year.

In the photo at R161, Ella looks like a traditional bride, Meghan looks dressed for her First Holy Communion, and Eugie looks like a princess.

I never thought the interview would include those things, R146. It would be a security issue.

The couple cutting the wedding cake.

Amelia Windsor's dress is a mess. That pattern would have been good on a little girl in the 70s, and then there's the milkmaid design plus it doesn't even fit very well.

I love the flowered purple dress and hat though. It's a spring wedding, if you can't pull out your flowered patterns today when can you?

Lady Sarah Chatto.

Lovely couple, wishing them all the best.

How are we getting photos of things like the cake cutting? Seems a bit intrusive.

Note that they did not feel the need to appear like a car advert at any point, but, again, they are not building their BRAND on the dime of the taxpayer.

Sophie W's wedding dress. You would have called Mm a hoe if she'd worn something this low cut.

Some ladies looked like they're pregnant.

R163, you expected the 'interview' to include this woman who you insist is 'building her brand'. You were wrong.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I don't think anyone did R170, to be fairr, as Gayle King hardly step foot in the country and then she was off again. It was strange.

Gosh that wedding was ten years ago R168, although I'm glad gown fashion is changing!

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Wouldn't it be better if we were hearing how MM's patronages are doing, what are they upto etc.....than all this crap? She has no clue!

The cake above reminds how poorly constructed was Hazbeans own wedding cake pictured below. Bakers everywhere were aghast at the lack of technical skill. And even the most amateur could see that placing it on gold stands with too many flowers as if to cover up bad patches served only to highlight the paltry result. But that's what last minute slap dash trying to look effortless but instead looking mediocre will get you. I'm sure they used edible flowers but these look like polyester versions from a local Hobby Lobby.

This was the top of the HazBean cake. As dismal and half-assed as the bride's dress.

Versus the Cambridge cake.

I'm over the lace or embroidered sleeve wedding dresses. They're the new strapless.

I wonder if Lady Gab got the red carpet in the chapel ...or another colour...Eug chose blue to go with her theme. Markle didn't have a carpet....all hurried like the cake and the dress.

If you're bored here's a video highlighting MeGa's awkward moments. After watching part of it I'm hoping them put her out of her misery and the Harkle's divorce. She really has no clue.

Despite what Gayle King says about having a private meeting with the couple, the Daily Beast were having none of it.

The Hazbean cake at R178 looked like they ran out of time and didn't get past the crumb coat in the frosting. Technical skill nonexistent.

Yikes, R176, I am no baker but might be able to exceed that? Why the huge seam in the frosting? It was planned for a long time, why did everything seem poorly executed and half assed? Was there a lot of turnover of vendors?

I'm assuming the divine Princess Alexandra, aunt of the bride Gabriella was at the wedding?

Bea may have got confused and thought she was going to an S & M meeting and her bf was more interested in the camera than her. Run Bea run!

Fat Fergie has been taking advice from Duchess Yoko. "Belly Button Busting Tight" is the way to go.

There is also a striking difference in the wedding bouquets, pictured at R161

Poor Bea is unattractive enough to only attract famewhores I guess, R186. She looks better since losing some weight, though.

The Head of Hapless Harry Exposed!

Fergie being invited suggests to me acceptance and expectation that she will at some point remarry Prince Andrew and they are being treated as a de facto couple.

Me-Me looks like a linebacker, R161, I had forgotten. It is as though she read that neckline was good to create the illusion of a waist in some mag age 12 and implemented it for life with no check in a mirror.

Photos of the bride and groom.

R191 - she's denied they're getting back together many times. Is Fergie lying?

r194 she's being discrete, savvy and playing the long game.

The color is nice on Fergie, she just needed to size up. Or she gained since she bought it.

I do not think we will know about their relationship until after the passing of Phillip. Then we shall see. Until it is a done deal, surely she will not speak of it.

Meghan was going for a self-expressive chill LA boho vibe with the cake and dress. Bad idea in the context of a royal wedding.

I never tire of lace and embroidery. So many beautiful things you can do.

The flowers, too, R197. It looked like Charlotte had just picked them.

Was the poor fit of the dress some self expression too? Wonder what the message was?

Andrew would have to have rocks in his head to marry Fergie again. She humiliated him and his family (not that he's not an ass himself), she always in debt, she has no filter when it comes to behavior and she's no longer attractive. I also believe she has a serious drinking problem. Just stay the hell away.

Forgot to mention that most of the British public really can't stand her.

err...yes, but when every other bride does the lace/embroidered sleeve it ends up looking like the same boring dress over and over again. And I'll just say it, just like strapless, a lot of brides cannot pull it off.

Most end up looking frumpy and older than their age. Just like you need toned thin arms to pull off strapless, you need a youthful face and thin frame to pull off lace sleeves or lace fabric near your face.

Marina and granddaughter Gabriella.

Bride and wedding guest.

Two Jemimas were at the wedding.

Meghan has always had the linebacker heft R192.

Side by side Kate towers over her yet you can see Meghan has the broader shoulders over her taller, more lithe sister-in-law.

Fergie's outfit is getting panned.

Two of Princess Alexandra's granddaughters - Flora Ogilvy and Zenouska Mowatt.

I think Meghan’s cakes were fine — for a different kind of wedding. Fine for a shabby-chic gazebo picnic wedding.

Fergie’s dress was awful. Pinterest must have told all these fat old broads that “millennial pink” is slimming and youthful and trendy.

The ex-King and Queen of Greece were there so I was looking for any other foreign royals at the wedding. I found the Imperial family of Brazil. Here are some photos of the family.

Here are the photos of the Brazilian royals.

The far too tight look is down to the Kartrashians and it is NOT becoming.

The happy groom.

Some people just don't make an effort.

The contrast of an ex king and queen as guests versus, say, a George Clooney.

I'm surprised that there weren't more foreign royals at the wedding. Maybe the couple decided to forego that option.

Those types of hats pictured at R208 always evoke ribbon candy for me.

Better to be slightly under-dressed at a wedding than to draw all attention to your non-existent pregnancy bump with a coat or to flash your black lace bra in the church yard.

R199 “I’m relaxed, chill, unlike this uptight crowd. I’m gonna loosen some shit up around here.”

R209 Shabby chic, yes, that’s what I was trying to think of. And you’re right, it’s fine for an outdoor wedding in Los Angeles.

That does sum it up, R219.

R210 The Brazilian Royals are nice looking.

Lady Gabriella's wedding cake in the background. Looks like she didn't ask Hazbean for Claire Ptak's number.

The more I see it, the worse it gets.

Looks like the Kents went for tradition all the way.

Jemima Khan certainly is covering her face. She always sort of interested me, a rich English girl who went to live in Pakistan. Didn’t last.

I love this pic of QEII & her son. You could cut their disdain toward whom ever they’re sneering at, with a knife. Lol!

Also, it’s really obvious that most of these people are heavy drinkers and/or pill poppers. That’s not normal aging, even for white people. Those faces are a result of hard liquor, cigarettes, and Valium.

Claire Ptak, talks to the media. Apparently there were other layers of cake, all pre-cut. And she had a freak out about cake being put in the fridge. Not surprise Meg liked her.

Prince william is trending on twitter for his football documentary and talking about Diana. We will get some never been seen picture that meghan will post for the anniversary tomorrow making sure no one talks about william.

New CDAN blind.

"Interesting to see the alliterate former actress turned A+ list celebrity complaining about treatment she has received from others when she complained to producers to get two actresses fired because she thought they were getting too many lines at her expense."

In their own way the Middletons keep showing how in they are with the aristos and royal crowd. Every Middleton but Kate is at this wedding. Pippa represented at the wedding of William's former flame, Arabella Musgrave. All the Middletons showed at Harry and Meghan's wedding. I've even seen pics of Carole Middleton hanging with Guy Pelley.

Cynicism aside, I remember reading that Cressida Bonas liked Carole Middleton a lot. For all the smear campaigns against the Middletons, I think a stable family like theirs is rare among the aristos and it's comforting to have drama free people whose own house is in order in your circle. I have a friend with parents like that. It's rarer than we think and a complete value add.

I'm reading that Middleton's French girlfriend was wearing a £50 dress from H&M and she made it look high end. Unlike MM who makes everything look cheap.

That wedding cake ended up looking pathetic in comparison to other cakes, so i wonder if she actually got any business boost.

R227, the aging is not a single one of them, save perhaps the queen, has ever heard of sunblock. They go to the Maldives or wherever, sunbathe in the noon sun, hang out on polo fields without wearing hats. Fergie has not lived an abstemious life, but that face of hers comes from being a fair skinned, freckled red head lying in the sun in St. Barts and outdoors in Switzerland decades on end. Diana was well on her way to the same fate when she died. Ever take a gander at Diana's mum or Fergie's mum (who was gorgeous anyway) - faces like leather.

I never watched Suits. Any idea who those actresses are? From a very young age all the signs pointed to Meghan having mean girl tendencies.

Pippa gurl, buy a decent bra.

Neither have I watched it R235, but some comments are mentioning Gina Torres as one of them.

This lady made the bridal bouquet. Good job.

I recall looking at Clare Ptak’s Instagram and being surprised at how ordinary all the treats looked, like Duncan Hines cakes and Pillsbury chocolate chip cookies. I would think a royal wedding cake would be a fabulous canvas to really get creative visually.

Secrets of the Royal Servants is on Channel 5 in the UK, at the mo. I've only just noticed it so will catch it on 5+1, or whatever it's called, at 8pm.

Holy shit, this picture is of Fergie WITH HER MOTHER!

Ella with the Queen.

[quote]the aging is not a single one of them, save perhaps the queen, has ever heard of sunblock.

Too true. Fair-skinned folk from a rainy isle with the money to vacation in the sun is a recipe for disaster. Wear your sunscreen, bitches!

Harry marrying Meghan is the one single handedly most brilliant PR move in the history of PR moves worldwide. The fact that they appear to be genuinely in love with each other is a bonus.

No one, and I mean no one, excluding old Brits, gave a fuck about these people anymore.

When England played “God Save the Queen “, Meghan Markle answered, “OK”!

Sarah, Duchess of York, looked good. Her hair, makeup and color and style of the dress are all very nice. Perhaps she could have gone a size up. But compared to everyone else, who never get the scrutiny that Fergie does, she kooks good!

Glad she was invited. Sarah is playing the long game and will be officially back in the royal family maybe even before Philip dies.

It was a lovely family wedding. Everything seemed to turn out just right and happy smiles were abundant. HMTQ and old Phil looked positively jovial.

I love Fergie. She's back! You gotta love her. The ol' girl has personality and pizzazz. More than all the rest of them

The bride and groom in black & white.

'Larrie is not a slur in 2019'

Larrie will always be a slur. Larries are the worst kind of hysterical Tumblr tinhat, just like the person on this thread who hates Prince Harry and Meghan and keeps insinuating that they had a surrogate and waffling on about moonbumps and the birth certificate being fake.

This person -a Larrie - has been on DL for ten years. They are on every thread where posters talk about het guys being closeted - such as Shawn Mendes, Timothee, Richard Madden and Sam Heughan. She also LOATHES Harry Styles because, as a Larrie, she can never forgive him for breaking up One Direction and making it really obvious that Larry were never a thing.

She now goes from thread to thread making dumb, mean comments about Harry Styles, such as 'he looks as if he smells of piss/looks like Michael Jackson'.

Any comments about 'paid shills', 'posting for profit', 'social media managers' and advice not to believe 'what you are being shown' is this troll. She even at one point tried to push a narrative that Harry is gay and bearding with Meg, but soon got shut down.

Please block and f and f this notorious troll.

R224, looking at Fergie, I can say she is wearing the correct sized shoes and a properly fitted bra that I cannot see every detail of. A size up and she would have been fine. It is a nice color on her.

One good thing about Kate Middleton and Kimmy K - they changed the wedding dress game after twenty years of strapless into the much more elegant lace sleeves.

T minus 10 bump watch for Eugie. She is a class act all the way, especially if she really did stay away from the wedding to not distract from the bridal couple. Hopefully she'll get embraced as a working royal. She seems like a very warm and genuine person of whom any patronage would be proud to have as their patron.

Did Princess Michael of Kent, the bride's mother, ice out Charles and Camilla? They weren't there. Did Markle make a surprise appearance at the reception? She was taking care of the kid? Please. The wedding was right in her backyard at Frogmore. Kate Middleton was a no-show too. What was her excuse? Were they all afraid Sarah, Duchess of York, was going to upstage them?

R253, no she didn't ice them out, they iced her. You do have some strange ideas. Charles doesn't like weddings and goes to as few as possible.

There is no comparison. Ella for the win!

C&C barely attend weddings

Every picture comparison really makes it obvious just how dark Meghan's wedding was compared to the others. And how bland that dress was.

'Did Markle make a surprise appearance at the reception? She was taking care of the kid? Please. The wedding was right in her backyard at Frogmore. Kate Middleton was a no-show too'

Her baby was only born 12 days ago. If she had gone to the wedding, you would be here screaming that she'd gone to take attention away from the bride. So much unwarranted vitriol.

Can you speak British? WTF? LOL.

'Every picture comparison really makes it obvious just how dark Meghan's wedding was compared to the others'

Dark? Her wedding day was wall to wall sunshine, around 26c, much hotter than today. Try again.

Meghan's pictures all give her a sinister creepiness in appearance. You can't unsee once its pointed out.

*it's ^^^

R251, agreed.

Strapless wedding gowns are a terrible choice, as many brides find out on their big day.

Personally, I find lace to also be a questionable choice because of the endless possibilities of mishaps that can occur when wearing lace.

I don’t necessarily like the style and fit of this bride’s gown, though it is lovely. Kate’s gown, on the other hand, would be my choice, if choosing a gown with lace.

Harry is loosing his last bit of hair quickly. But he’s still boyish enough in attitude & looks over the moon happy.

Today's bride and groom are very attractive and dressed beautifully, as opposed to last year's models.

Speaking of H&M, they have a version of the Cambridge wedding dress for sale. The French gf looked pretty for a spring wedding. It is nice to see the Middletons out in full force. Pippa looks fine, she may be breastfeeding still.

For Fergie newbs

Meghan's wedding gown was fug as hell on her. It's a shade of whiteout white and accentuates her broad shoulder, wide barrel-like torso, and nonexistent waist. Today's bride Gabriella had a much better dress that also suited her figure. Poor Meghan, she just doesn't have style, she couldn't even look good in her own (overpriced) wedding dress.

Harry will be bald in two-years time. Unlike William who sort of wears his baldness well, I don't think ginger baldy Harry will fare as well. I'd expect him to grow his beard to compensate even more.

I thought Meghan looked lovely in her dress.

Fergie needs to lay off the beer and chips for a few weeks before attending royal weddings.

Today's bride was a washed out blonde who didn't suit the pale colour of her gown at all. She has a face like a camel compared to Meg's delicate, defined features and lovely jawline. Gabby has a weak chin and huge teeth.

Weird that the hater thinks an 8 stone, 5ft 5 woman resembles a linebacker but praises giants of 5ft 10 who look like men.

Harry still looks like a guy in his mid 30s whereas Wills could pass for 55. Ugly.

Hazza must be on a 9pm curfew tonight. Time to come home *yank*

She's very evil looking here!

R271 sugar it is ok some people don't like sparkle. Your goddess is not cut out for royal life. R181. It is eye opening seeing her fuck ups it is like she has no clue what the fuck she is doing. She signed up for a life with rules and she can't even learn it well. I don't want to be mean but I give this marriage five years max. She doesn't seem like a good fit for the strict royal rules. She only wants the fame and money but not the discipline needed to fit in. I did not see a confident woman since all I saw was an insecure woman who Is way over her head and does not understand the implications of what she got herself into. what if she is not controlling Harry maybe manipulated him into believing she is the right woman for the job.

Harry is thick in the head and Meghan is thick in the torso. They're a match made in heaven!

I wonder if people have it wrong and in fact the Givenchy burlap sack fit her to perfection and her figure really is built like of bag of russet potatoes?

Tragic Skippie at R275, M is very much cut out for royal life. She had a great first year and is very popular for a new royal, especially amongst young people who are sick of seeing white Royals.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R274 She looks like Ursula from The Little Mermaid when she gets her legs.

Pippa effect? The Kate Spade dress sold out soon after she appeared in it at the wedding.

Meghan has a really slim figure.

Well at least MM will age well.

You really have to laugh at the Gayle King show last night. She went on and on about Meghan's clothing and how she was a fashion icon (a big WTF moment among many) and Kate has been selling out pretty well everything she wears for years now. Meghan is neither the second coming nor the second Diana.

R277. You are delusional. She is not cut for this strict old fashion institution. Why are you so racist against whites. Judging by your post you seem to be a LSA fangurl. She is overrated and clueless in the video above. Just because the u.s media shows you what they want you to see. Meghan might not age well judging by the sunburn patches on her skin. Besides she is half melanin so she will probably age like milk too.

The only ones I see buying shit or hacks of what Meghan wears are nutters in Brazil who pay for plastic surgery to ruin their features. Body dysmorphia is a mental disorder. Are those her fans, the mental disordered?

Photos like the one at R278 prove why it’s ridiculous to suggest that Harry’s father is anyone but Charles.

Fangurl runs this Insta and just popped that pic on of Megzilla to show us. Go to bed,. love.

Agree that MM looks creepy in those photos upthread. And once u see it, cant not see it. Especially when she is staring at Kate

Meghan already suffers from old lady crepe-y decolletage. It's getting harder and harder for her to hide sun damage under self-tanner.

Ella the bride with the Brazilian royals.

how is anyone going to legitimately try to complain that european royalty is too european

Photo of the couple and the wedding party.

The radiant bride.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Gabriella's parents both looked noticeably older and less spry than usual. They are in their mid-seventies. How the hell does HM manage to still be so incredibly vibrant in her nineties?

I was kind of hoping the Kents would go full on something like this.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Princess Michael certainly didn't look her best but she may be suffering from ill health. She's usually very svelte and stylish

The outdoor setting of the bridal party photos is just beautiful.

Do we suppose anyone living nearby could hear the party sounds and felt just a little left out?

Somebody spoke of the fairies arranging the train and it reminded me of this

For anyone who might be inclined to give a shit, "Mary, Queen of Scots" is FREE on TubiTV. This is the story of the dramatic saga between Elizabeth I (QEII's 15th cousin) and Mary, Queen of Scots (QEII's 13th? Great-Grandmothe). The film features Glenda Jackson as Elisabeth I and Vanessa Redgrave as Mary, Queen of Scots. If you have not seen it yet, I highly recommend it as a good watch.

From 1972

R299, beautiful wasn't it? I bet Madam heard it, lol. I hope we get pictures of the evening do. Keep eyes peeled on Insta, all.

I didn't hear a thing, I was out spending the Splash News compo.

'Do we suppose anyone living nearby could hear the party sounds and felt just a little left out"

If Meghan had wanted to be there, she would have gone. At least she didn't look like a lazy eyed camel in her wedding dress like Gabriella did.

R300 - I was given those Flower Fairies book as a child - the illustrations are so exquisite and when my great-niece was born a couple of years ago I passed them on to her, along with the Flower Fairy Alphabet book and several others.

There is an interesting undercurrent of classism in that picture R303.

R292- What? No fireworks and black white images of the couple with their backs to the Great Unwashed?!

[quote]Princess Michael certainly didn't look her best but she may be suffering from ill health.

I really think she is, she didn’t look at all like herself.

Was Rose Hanbury, The Marchioness of Cholmondeley in attendance? It seems like all the hoi poloi showed up except for Will and Kate.

R309 - My wife and I weren't there either.

R287 - From some years ago, her hair lightened and still straightened, the water hiding her box middle and supporint her tits.

Can I go home yet, oh Duchess daughter of mine? I'm bored shitless over here.

Yuge's absence definitely makes me think she's knocked up and didn't show so as not to distract from the bride. Which also has me wondering if that's behind Kate's non-attendance at many society weddings. Pregnant or not, surely Kate would distract from brides the way even Harry kind of did today (at least in the press coverage)?

F and f the anorexic bitch who thinks Meg looks like a 'linebacker', a man, or a bag of spuds. She also thinks racism towards white people is a thing. Dumb and blind.

R305 Lovely aren't they?

Thoughts on today:

- Amelia Windsor did NOT pull off that pink dress successfully - Pippa's dress fit well and wasn't obviously terrible but I just don't like her style. A little too prairie schoolmarm-ish - didn't think Fergie looked that bad, for Fergie. She definitely didn't stand out as awful - Bea looked as good as she has in a long time, to me. More relaxed and smiley than I'm used to, I liked the dress well enough and the colour really suits her - the Queen and Phil, in the videos of them exiting and entering their car, are so spry for people their age! Both of them managed it with ease and grace. I've been thinking Phil has been not long for this world for awhile but he didn't look decrepit in his physicality - it's just his visage that's gone a little zombie

R314 - But aren't you the one who shows up like clockwork in this thread to talk about how old and gross William is and how ugly giraffe Kate is and how many Instagram followers Meghan has and how petite petite petite she is? It's boring, you're language is boring, you're boring, please stop.

Welp, fucked up the formatting in that post. Soz!

One last thought - the bride looked lovely, glowing and happy. But does anyone else see a little bit of Theresa May in her face? A young Theresa, I mean.

R315 - Indeed, they are - representations of once-quintessential Engishness now gone except in outlihing countrysides.

Fergie's outfit is a pretty colour with a decent hat, but is two sizes too small and so eliminated her midsection entirely and made her look like the mother of the bride in Real Housewives of New Jersey - or, in this case, EastEnders.

R317 - In the soon to be ex-PM's dreams . . .

R300, oh, I love those books. We had “Flower Fairies Changing Seasons”, which showed how the flowers change with the seasons. Traveler’s joy to old man’s beard, hawthorn blossoms to the little fruits, etc. You move a lever and the slatted illustrations change.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The bride and groom give this vibe of happiness and light and love. I got the opposite vibe from meghan on her wedding day.

What kind of anniversary picture will she put up tomorrow. Her and harry in black and white kissing archie with a giant picture of Diana behind them?

'It's boring, you're language is boring, you're boring, please stop.'

Oh, dear.

Illiterate Kate Troll.

There were so many women wearing jackets and/or hats that were the wrong color for their outfits. One example was a women who just slapped on a white blazer over dress.

Bea's navy dress was fab but why wear a white hat and shoes with it? She has lost weight and looks good. But, her beaux is going to break her heart.

Why does Fergie keep wearing clothes that are too small for her?

I thought the flowers outside the church were pretty.

I thought the best dress and hat belonged to the fairy on camera right who helped straighten out the wedding gown on the steps.

Carole Middleton always looks well-put together --- clothes and hat that suit her. James Middleton looked good. The navy fabric underneath his GF's dress was odd as well as her little hat. She's pretty, though. She looks much fresher than the sun-scorched aristo women.

I can't help but think that might have been one of Fergie's daughters' dresses.

Fergie does not suit Vulva Pink, but I like her . I loved her jolly and excited wave to the press.

Fergie looks nice. Beatrice almost got there but not quite. That crisscross top is just silly.

Princess Mike did look unwell - not her usual ebullient self - and she has put on weight, but girlfriend has always had legs like tree trunks. She’s just usually photographed in full length dresses or trousers.

[quote]F and f the anorexic bitch who thinks Meg looks like a 'linebacker', a man, or a bag of spuds. She also thinks racism towards white people is a thing. Dumb and blind.

Did someone's widdle sore spot get poked? Try not to taketh the truth too hardeth sweetie.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Here is Bea's dress by Self Portrait...

My theory on Pippa’s ultra demure dress sense lately is that she’s trying to downplay her middle class origins and not stand out as being too trashy and flashy. Especially at a wedding - her mother always dresses beautifully and appropriately - it’s just good manners to not draw attention from the bride.

But both she and Kate overdo the buttoned up to the chin and long buttoned cuff look although I assume that it’s fashionable. Very prim although Kate did that kitten-with-a-whip thing last week with the schoolmarm dress unbuttoned enough to show off her truly amazing legs.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The Middletons seem like a very close knit family, and their appearance at the wedding suggests they have been fully integrated into the upper echelons of British society. Choke on that little cretin who waxes disinformation about their marriage and their Party Pieces company as some sort of drug front. (Talk about tinhattiest nutcase who makes up shit and talks to herself screeching lies as fact.) The best revenge is 'a life worth lived' and they are living their best lives. Tsk tsk to the poor miserable creature on here who cannot stomach how well the Middletons are compared to... well, just about everybody

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I like how the whole Middleton family has been invited to each of the royal weddings of the past year. The reports that say that they’re great company, very nice and lots of fun just might be true. I can’t imagine that they would all be invited each time (personal connection or not) if they were the grasping social climbers that some people have made them to be. They arrive en masse, appropriately but not flashily dressed and walk confidently into the church without seeking out the cameras. No sashaying, no posing no drawing attention - I like them.

Shazam R336 - R338 here. Great minds think alike.

They also appear on the scene whether the Cambridges will be present or not which marks them as a part of that set now on their own merits.

A bit hard to get a picture of the Wessexes together R337 as Sophie was in Kent.

Did somebody already say that Freddy Windsor looks like his maternal grandfather, Gunther von Reibnitz, the Nazi SS Officer who was married 3 times?

R335 Dead. He was murdered.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Michael Middleton is an attractive man. He's about the only older man of that set who still has a full head of hair.

Also interesting that Lady Sarah Chatto and family were there but not the Snowdons. The Earl of Snowdon (when Viscount Linley) was once asked in an interview what he would give to his worst enemy. The answer? Dinner with Princess Michael of Kent.

Dag, the bride really did go full on Empress Sisi with her hair. How gorgeous!

That is funny R346.

Carole Middleton, Princess Alexandra of Kent and Lady Chatto are the women who wear more stylish hats than the others. I hate the flying saucer tilted to the side and weird fascinators.

I always thought Lady Chatto was wearing real flowers on head at her wedding, judging from the longshot photos. It turns out she was wearing the Snowden Floral Tiara. See below. I love this tiara.

R347 The difference being that Empress Sisi was beautiful.

That’s a lovely tiara, very Midsummer night’s dream

The Flower Fairies, for anyone that missed them today. I've so enjoyed the DL Wedding Party, today. Ooh-ed, ahh-ed, got tipsy, ate half a jar of Marmite Peanut Butter, and laughed till I cried.

I, too, had thought Lady Sarah's wedding headdress was just flowers. Thank you R349 for posting that shot of the Snowden Floral Tiara.

Every proper British wedding from here on out should come with a set of 'flower fairies' for attendants.

Wow! Look at Sisi in this court dress. I love the little stars in her veil. She had so many tragedies in her life, ending with her own murder.

Here's another pretty one of Empress Sisi. Ther eare many more on Google Images.

typo: there are

Who is the cute little boy standing next to the Queen's chair, camera right?

Sorry. wrong link. Who is the little boy standing next to the Queen's chair camera right?

The weight of her abundantly long hair and the tiara must have been massive on her head and neck. But she was notorious for sacrificing pain at the altar of beauty.

R359 lol. Look at the woman with giant hat behind Prince Charles.

My last comment was re: Empress Sisi...

Here is a description of the Snowden Floral Tiara and more pictures...

R178. A royal wedding calls for the highest craftsmanship.

I didn't realize that Jasper Conran designed Lady Chatto's wedding dress, bridesmaid's dress and the Snowden Floral Tiara.

I think of him as a furniture and household goods designer. I didn't know he design clothes. I visited Conrain's and Habitat years ago in London. There were 2 Conran's in NYC for a while but that was long ago also.

I like the simple elegance of his designs for this wedding. I also like the bridesmaid's hair with the flowers in the back and the bouquets shown in the big group shot.

This Spanish Tiara looks a bit like the Snowden Floral Tiara, especially the main flower.

Tiny waist and ugly face---Margarethe, Princess of Thurn und Taxis

Look at this wedding dress and hair color...

My thought on the wedding today:

As already noted, Princess Michael did not look her best. She looked ok, but not half as elegant as she did at Lord Freddie's wedding. Frumpy, and the color made her look washed out. Does anyone know anything about the interesting pendant she had on? It looked like some kind of Odin's cross - which doesn't have good connotations, esp given Marie-Christine's 'history'.

The bride looked wonderful, dress, hair, veil, train, flowers, tiara - great on every point. The flowers at the church were fabulous as well. Well done. Guests were a mixed bag. Wtf was Birgitte Gloucester wearing on her head? an 80s-style Flashdance headband. The Goldsmiths looked awful, both Jemimas looked bad. Queen Anne-Marie looked regal as always.

Surprisingly large turnout of royals, was surprised to see this. Prince Philip looked terrific for a man turning 98 in a few weeks. Totally spry for his age, good to see him and TQ together w/the family....where was Princess Alexandra, the bride's aunt? No sign of her, she wasn't there although her children and grandchildren were. Hope things are ok.

The Yorks arriving en famille (minus Eug and Jack - who are so prego, no doubt at this point): very significant imo, esp in public at a major family event with both TQ & Philip present. The dress was too small but she looked every inch a royal Duchess again, hat, brooch etc. Anyone who believes they are just 'hanging out' as merely friendly exes is kidding themselves now; they are priming for the future time when they announce a re-marriage....I used to believe this would happen only after Philip's death, but now I'm not so sure of that.

[quote]Does anyone know anything about the interesting pendant she had on?

Looked like a Maltese cross? Probably some Catholic ladies-auxiliary thing.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

You are correct r370, it is a Maltese cross, not Odin's as I incorrectly id'd it.

A very frumpy look either way for her. I was surprised, she's looked better at other weddings. This was her own daughter's.

r201 I don't think that's true at all.

I think the “squat fairy” in the fabulous purple floral dress and hat is none other than dress designer Luisa Beccaria herself.

I regret my use of the word squat. They are not squat but they were squatting. And rather charming.

R375 It’s all in good fun! It was a great adjective!

I would love to see the front of the purple fairy dress.

Welp the DM are up to something. They've got Ella Windsor's wedding still up as main headline on the UK front page, but now have a huge pic of grinning Kate swinging in her Chelsea Flower garden on the front page of the US edition. With a large inset pic of Diana, natch. Wonder what this is about? Were the Sussexes planning some headlines for their anniversary tomorrow?

Here a good wide shot video of designer Luisa Beccaria working with Ella's dress today on the St. George's steps. At the end she stands up an turns around before walking out of the shot, you can get a full view of her getup in all its floral glory:

How wonderful to have the designer and assistant (?) on hand dressed so charmingly. She / they looked almost ethereal.

I'm glad Fergie is back. It's been years.

Ok, I'm fully back to my original position that the purple fairy dress is magic! I wish we could see a big, clear photo of it.

Read me the tea leaves on Fergie invited to this damn thing... I mean, she and Princess Michael don't seem intuitive besties.

Why would Andrew and Sarah remarry. Are they still in love? Whatever that means.

The bride really is hideous. I'm amazed she could get herself such an attractive husband.

What a charming wedding day, the bride was beautiful and there were ex and present kings and queens afoot. Everybody looked so happy.

[quote][R347] The difference being that Empress Sisi was beautiful.

Unless you saw her teeth. I am a huge fan of Sisi but you will look long and hard in vain to find a painting or photo of her smiling to reveal her teeth They were legendarily bad.

All the talk upthread about these women being ugly/sun-damaged/oddly dressed got me thinking about the difference between entertainment industry celebs and aristrocrats or the upper classes. These women enjoy a life of plentiful ski and sun holidays and many spend lots of time outdoors doing or watching sports. Their primary concern is not how they'll look in red carpet pics or on instagram; their face is not their meal ticket.

Exactly R388 - there was a comment previously about how extraordinary it was to see all the oddly dressed and styled women at the wedding today, "especially in this Instagram age" (or something like that) and I thought it missed the point entirely. The point being, as you said, that these women's fortunes are not forced to rely on their looks for the roofs over their heads or their jewels. Same with the people going on about social media followers.

This is what people mean when they say Americans "don't understand" and I think they're basically right. The aristocracy is not about merit. It's not about looks or kindness or ability or anything except bloodline.

We should restore the Austro-Hungarian Empire. There really was a sense of class about the whole thing. Now? Meh, not so much with the Balkans and their nonsense.

The Queen will be visiting the garden with Catherine.

It is a shame that Megan did not want to be a positive part of the BRF. So much chaos, negativity and malice, even toward very young children, all in less than a year. Oh well, some people are like that.

yes it's true, Meghan is definitely the source of all evil. Why must she be the source of all evil? why?

Anyone know when this snap of Wills at a pool was taken? He has more hair than he does now, I think? He looks quite fit.

[quote]We should restore the Austro-Hungarian Empire. There really was a sense of class about the whole thing.

Except that regrettable part about marrying your first cousin generation after generation after generation. As Lady Bracknell said in a different context "And I presume you know what that movement led to?"

^ that UNFORTUNATE movement led to. Sorry.

fine, there was that, but Empress Elizabeth was a breath of fresh Wittelsbach (?) air.

Except for her infamous teeth. But I do love Sisi and and Winterhalter is one of my favorite 19th century artists. But I'm old fashioned.

Poor old Fergie is obviously incapable of stepping out of a car at a royal wedding without stopping, pulling that ridiculous face and waving like a badly operated marionette. It would be great to get a shot of her from a different angle - there was probably nobody there. Bea, evidently used to this mugging, ignored it and soldiered on ahead.

Someone needs to keep Mummy away from the Chablis prior to these events.

Fergie is like a saint in comparison to MM, maybe that is why the RF seems to be welcoming her back.

Having bad teeth was in vogue at that time.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Everyone is a saint compared to M . I never saw someone like M in my entire working life . Maybe the streets of H’wood are full of people like her .

Harry's facial hair and expression reminds me of that hillbilly guy on that Honey Booboo show

And what about the Worth gowns that Empresses Sisi and Eugenie wore? They were beautiful, layered confections of tulle, flowers and crystals.

Happy 1 Year Anniversary to the Duke & Duchess of Sussex. One down, a lifetime of love, peace & happiness to go.

Together.

Sorry, r373, but r201 is correct. MM really is one of the most disliked public figures in the country.

And Harry's sliding down rapidly enough to join her if they both keep up like this. They need to disappear off somewhere. The Out To Africa plan probably would be the only thing that could have rehabilitated them, but now that's off I think it's only going to get worse.

R406 - MM isn't disliked except by Piers Morgan ( who is reviled) and the Express newspaper. People here are too busy hating Theresa May and worrying about Brexit to spare any hate for MM.

No, R407, there's plenty of hatred to go around. Times are not so bad that a villain like Yoko can't be recognized and reviled.

Go on the big British gossip boards like Digital Spy and there are no long running threads attacking her, as there are for genuine hated villains like Liz Jones and Katie Price. Brits hate trashy chavs, not attractive dual heritage Americans who have very obviously made the hugely popular Harry happier than they have ever seen him.

MM's wedding dress looks very dull here.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I'm stuffed to the gills with royal weddings.

From mad Skippy's blog today:

I didn't believe it earlier, but now I do - Harry has never lived with her. If he had, there would be photos, like any other couple has, in their home together and she'd be rubbing everyone's face in it. What better way to shut us up than by posting an anniversary picture of them now? All Megsy can manage is black and white shots of that one day.

Meghan has such a sweet face, even in repose. No resting bitch face like most of the royals, including Diana.

She has a beautiful, slender figure. So feminine.

Let's look at celebrity wedding dresses. Was Jaynie pregnant here, do you think?

I think this is pretty (for wedding #4, was it?)

Oh, yes! If I'd been paying attention I'd have seen that it was wedding #4. Anyway, this is different:

Sussexroyal Ig has posted a series of video clips to mark their one year anniversary.

R420 see R411

R409, there WERE dozens of anti-MM threads on Digital Spy but they were pulled. They are now hidden under cunning titles involving soft furnishings, fishing and such.

R422, there aren't any. Why would they need to be hidden? There aren't any threads about soft furnishings or fishing. Such desperate lies.

R409 has introduced a new term to this thread: “dual heritage”.

Interesting.

R423, why would I lie about it? Even threads about terrible actress Stephanie Davis were pulled, and are hidden there, too. One of those is under " Heather's Chair..." ( won't reveal full title here)....so please don't accuse me of telling lies when you just haven't dug enough. If, of course, you WANT to dig . That site is full of hysterical nannas and taxi drivers ranting, at the moment.

Threads on Digital Spy are hidden when they get pulled or deleted from their mainstream titles.

r425 is right. I saw a few there last year (which was the last time I was there) and now I just did a search and they're all gone. Do you think MM threatened them or something? Somebody must have done.

Will only make people hate her more....

R422 Are you able to tell me where to find these. I've had a look and can't see anything. I wanna read!

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

All the less-than-flattering photos of her (I know, MM fan, but there are such things) have been taken off the internet, too. Every single one. Didn't the internet used to be uncensored?

R427, I mentioned the Stephanie Davis ones and I know that her agent ( yes I know she's had many, but it was Claire from CAN, who she's back with ) got them pulled. So it more than likely to be MM that got hers pulled. She would probably have seen that as a leading UK forum ( I don't), so the first place to go, search and pull.

R428, I'll swap over to my old laptop later and have a look for the saved tabs, lol.

Pippa's dress in more detail, from yesterday. I likey.

Hypocrite.

I didn't realize the sleeves on Pippa's ugly dress were so...layered.

r433 She is SUCH a hypocrite. Of course she wants Harry to stay sweet with his father - because his father is the one who funds their extravagant lifestyle. She wants him to "love his family" as in, stay in with his family because she wants to be invited to things and look to the outside world like her behaviour is accepted by them. Without the appearance of being accepted, her stock goes down with the social-climbing set back in Hollywood, and she needs the latter's worshipful attention in order to keep climbing once she's ditched Harry.

The Flower Fairies dresses on the catwalk. Sans hats.

Thank you, r436.

Exactly, r435. She hasn’t finished extracting what she wants from the family. I am sure she will drop a match on the gasoline she’s poured when she’s in her way out, though.

You are more than welcome R437.

What an earth is MM doing flaunting old pictures of herself in a wedding dress, right after yesterday's wedding? Yes, it's her anniversary, but why not a picture of her and Harry now? She could have had one taken before her bloat, in anticipation. A nice casual one, would have been perfect. Granted she's not outdoorsy, so anything similar to William, Kate and the kids' pics would look fake...but she could have chosen any setting. I mean, she would never give us a candid one. But the wedding dress AGAIN? Another big faux pas . But an intentional one, I think.

R436 The coral one is vivid and lovely. The purple one is disappointing with that giant tie.

It was a faux pas in one sense because, once again, her poor intentions are clear. In another sense, it compares her unfavorable to yesterday's bride. Sorry to harp on the matter, but her dress was so ill fitting and these pictures highlight this once again.

R439, I think yesterday the designer adapted the tie and turned it into some sort of sash, maybe. It looked like it crossed over her shoulder. It looked like it was adapted to look more flouncy, yesterday.

Where was it reported that Africa is off? Or, is it just assumed because they keep changing the time frames, i.e., now it is a few weeks here and there?

I'm wondering about Africa , too. I think it was MM's PR trying to detract from the Times "banishment" article, by fighting back by saying it was the Sussexes choice, and it was for four months. It was a very quick kickback at the piece.

I bless the rains down in Africa.

R440, it’s kind of sad. I wonder if she is already feeling irrelevant. Or if she thinks that her wedding day is one of her great triumphs, the way the former HS quarterback relives his glory days.

To be fair, I suppose the first anniversary is a big deal. And to be cuntish, I’ll point out that she blew her whole wad in under a year. The only big newsworthy thing left is the divorce.

Agreed but the original Geidt plan was a few years, not months. MM's rebuttal of "months, not years" won't do it. The only way they can stop from being swallowed the building loathing of them in the country is to disappear to a quiet place for a sizable amount of time. At least two years, with no glamour occasions other than the odd diplomatic reception.

The dress at r436 reminds me of Tiffany’s Favrile glass. I’m really appreciating the way the designer’s dress (and all the dresses and hats) have made me think about art and design again. It’s inspiring.

Well, I hope the years-long Africa plan is still a-go. Perhaps that is why Harry has been showing up to so many events lately trying to look maniacally happy, hoping to build allies within the BRF and lessen or prevent the banishment. Although that's a fools game because who would support him at this point?

Wasn't it a two year plan?

R448 I think you're right. He certainly seems to be doing a lot of ass kissing with the Queen. He's also been busier since she had the baby than he was before. Which is odd for a new father.

The dresses at R436 are only acceptable on rail-thin beauties under the age of 27 who also have great skin. If any of this conditions isn't met, the look will be a disaster. Luisa Beccaria needs to walk away from that frock.

correction ^^^ "any of these"

This photo perfectly sums up what was most important to her that day—being photographed.

The Africa plan was a tabloid rumour. They've just spent 3m renovating their house and taking a newborn to most parts of Africa would be a health risk, so it won't happen.

Not a tabloid rumour when The Times named names.

Why did they bother renovating Frogmore at all? Did they honestly think the dumpy Duchess would deign to live there?

Watched a programme yesterday, that touched on the sorry tale of Backstairs Billy, have we ever touched upon him in the threads? The videos of him at the auction, with his paddle, tears rolling down his face was upsetting. I know people might have very different opinions of William Tallon, be interesting to hear them.

R456, has it been renovated though? The roof is a mess, from what my friend saw on passing. He believes it to be empty. He has not long moved in to the area, so hopefully I'll get some more gossip, as he has dogs to walk.

R455, newborns can't be vaccinated against any of the diseases that are rife in sub Saharan Africa. So unless they're going to live it up in Cape Town, it's not happening any time soon.

R458, FC is huge so some small roof damage is neither here nor there. Nobody believes you have a friend who lives there, desperado.

I don't know, R458. I keep hearing this 3M number being bandied about; isn't that what they (allegedly) spent on the (alleged) reno?

Interestingly the press release which announced them moving to Frogmore in November last year is not in the archive on the royal website. There is something fishy around FC.

She's such a predictable fame whore and mean girl. Wearing her coat open at Eugenie's wedding. Posting multiple photos of her year old wedding a day after Ella's wedding. So fucking tacky.

R460, believe what you want. He has just retired from the forces and has moved to enjoy some well deserved time. I'll keep my gossip to myself, in future. Very rude.

M and H's wedding anniversary is getting headlines. The demented Eugenie's Wedding Troll is back at R463.

Ella and Tom's wedding made the cover of Hello mag.

Ella's second dress. I want to see it.

I don't blame you, R464, but not all of us feel that way. Unfortunately there are rabid pro-Yoko cunts on this thread, and they're the ones who will harass you to death in their intolerable teenage girl way. I understand if you don't want to hang around, and it sucked that that happened.

The bride's mother sat with the Brazilian prince.

Block the troll/shill, R464. His goal is to shut down the reality checks you provide. Block him and please do tell the rest of us.

Fringe tiara goes round and round.

The bride's father, Prince Michael of Kent has not aged well.

They can't renovate frogmore without public applying for it, and you can't hide renovation on that scale. so odds are nothing ever happened there.

Princess Margaret with big hair.

Her Majesty is not impressed with the Iron Throne.

Bea has just left a bondage meeting. Her bf was in attendance.

Now that's a lovely picture at R469 of Princess Michael, she was hiding that lovely pattern under her outer layer. And certainly looking more relaxed, sitting down.

Unless its her bib R477

Haven’t seen her in action before, but this latest bride has je sais quoi that sets her apart from the previous two: she looks happy, radiant, and bubbly. MM had a very tiresome “I’ve finally made it” aura about her, and Eugenie had this severe art deco look.

R477 she might have got changed, she seemed to have a lilac dress under the jacket and heavy hanging baubles, prior.

I'm liking the lilac more than I did yesterday.

I'll take any gossip you get, R464.

I don't understand the jacket. It looks more like a happi coat than anything. It isn't elegant, it isn't fitted, it isn't tasteful. Maybe it's just comfortable.

I like it - I am used to seeing pictures of Pss. Michael from at least 5 years ago so I wasn't ready for her to look so elderly, so that was a shock, but I like the almost tulle-esque jacket, and I love that she wore her Knights of Malta Brooch. Very chic. Not many people have one of those (the real ones, that is- it's a rather exclusive charitable society these days)

Permits were filed, R473, quite a while ago. It was on earlier threads. If locals do not see that work was done and see no signs of habitation, that is interesting. Some photos were posted online and in articles that appeared to be scaffolding and roof work but those were of the mausoleum, not FrogCot itself. The ones in People magazine were quite misleading. Hmmm, wonder who could have provided those?

Well we know People are on the payroll for a start.

I went looking for information about the Frogmore move in the Times and found this article from a month ago.

Nobody comes off looking good. It's behind a paywall. If posters want the article I can paste it here.

Oh yes, please r487

This picture on shutterstock was available from 17th February 2019. I suppose the windows would be the last thing replaced at Frogmore Cottage.

Yes please R487, I've run out of my two free articles this week # cheapskate

[quote] Byline: asks Tim Shipman

[quote] The suggestion was delivered with a languor that belied its radicalism: "It wouldn't surprise me if Harry and Meghan moved abroad." The location was a restaurant in Soho clubland, in London, with plates of slow-cooked venison, lamb neck, flatbread and hispi cabbage gradually emptying. The speaker was a close confidant of the Dukes of Cambridge and Sussex, two of the most recognisable young men in the world and best known by their first names, William and Harry.

[quote] It was early April, a month after the brothers had ended their joint court at Kensington Palace and divided their offices. For months Harry and his bride had been central to media coverage of the royals as the former actress Meghan Markle completed her transformation into the Duchess of Sussex.

[quote] Increasingly, Harry and Meghan were also at the forefront of thinking by palace officials. "There have been various ideas floated for them to take on a job abroad, such as governor-general of Australia or Canada, wherever," the source said. These ideas were rejected. Senior royals, after all, are not civil servants. But what emerged from the discussions is potentially more interesting and could see Harry and Meghan set up home in Africa.

[quote] If the idea seems at first sight unlikely, the conversations in the royal household that gave rise to it have been confirmed by others close to the princes. Hailed since their mother's death more than 20 years ago as the saviours of the monarchy, William and Harry bonded by growing up amid febrile publicity, brothers in arms united against the stuffed waistcoats and breeches of the palace establishment and an antidote to the older generation of royals who too often mired the monarchy in personal controversies of their own creation.

[quote] What has prompted serious questions about whether the Sussexes might leave Britain for a while? The origins lie in that separation of the two offices, a move more than half-a-dozen sources attest driven by a recognition that the two men will have very different constitutional roles in the future and the growing personal differences of approach between them and their wives.

[quote] What is more, insiders say, the institutional separation has cemented some of those personal differences to a degree that has led certain courtiers realising the next few years could shape the future of the monarchy for decades to come to conclude they need a new plan.

[quote] "William is embracing the idea, which he has been very slow to do, that he is going to be king and Prince of Wales," said one source with connections at the highest levels of the palace.

[quote] In this the Duke of Cambridge has been encouraged by his private secretary, Simon Case, who previously served as principal private secretary to David Cameron and Theresa May. Allies say he believed that a period of separation between the two brothers would help them to define themselves better and also improve relations between them.

This picture of Frogmore from the 19th April, the foliage has grown up so we can't see if the window was fixed. However there still seem to be some missing tiles.

[quote] Setting up a separate office was an acknowledgment that William will be king and Harry will not and, to a degree, a means of reassuring William that his is the constitutionally important role, whatever the public esteem in which Harry and Meghan are held. "People are telling William, 'Don't worry. Your influence will grow and Harry's will fade,'" a source said. "This is peak Harry."

[quote] After a year in which Harry and Meghan have hardly been off the front pages, it would be natural for William and Kate to feel somewhat overshadowed. It was not long after the office split that the tabloids started reporting that Kate and Meghan did not see eye to eye. They were "very different people", one report suggested.

[quote] "It's a bit sad really," said someone who knows both princes. "The wives don't get on. The brothers have fallen out."

[quote] If the departure of Harry and Meghan from Kensington Palace to Frogmore Cottage on the Windsor estate made constitutional and personal sense, it also relieved some courtiers who had grown frustrated by the determination of the Sussexes to do things their way, not the old way.

[quote] To the outside world Harry was deeply in love with his bride and devoted to her needs. To some palace grandees, used to things being done a certain way, he was "in thrall" to Meghan. One insider said: "She's in total charge; he does everything she wants."

[quote] Courtiers were quick to brief the papers that Harry had snapped at staff before the wedding "What Meghan wants, Meghan gets" and that the Queen had called him in for a dressing-down. "Only the Queen can exercise any control over William or Harry," a source said. "The father can't and there is no mum."

[quote] A number of those preparing William for the throne share this view and have openly told friends that Meghan is "a nightmare". Friends of Harry think this deeply unfair and see it as evidence that some people have not moved on from the attitudes of the abdication crisis of 1936 when the Establishment failed to accommodate another divorced American woman, Wallis Simpson.

[quote] "They obviously don't like Meghan and find her difficult," said a sympathiser. "Harry thinks the world is against him, but he will certainly stand by her."

[quote] This sense of embattlement has been entrenched by William's decision to reach out to senior figures in the media as he prepares for kingship and by the apparent decision of those same newspapers to side with the palace over Meghan and Harry by peddling the most negative coverage of the duchess's relationship with her father, Thomas Markle. "Harry sees that as part of the headwinds against him," a friend said.

[quote] In this context moving to Frogmore has been as much an exile as an escape. "Meghan and Harry feel they have been cut adrift," one ally said.

[quote] None of which has dented the couple's popular support or their desire to pursue the schemes they care about. Recently Harry announced plans to make a documentary series about mental health issues with the US broadcaster Oprah Winfrey, building on his projects with the Heads Together campaign in Britain and his work with disabled athletes.

[quote] Before her marriage Meghan was a global ambassador for the children's charity World Vision. Old footage of her helping young people in India was released only last week.

[quote] Allies say this global crusading was a key element in their romance. "There are two Harrys," said one. "One hangs out with honking Sloanes and goes to shooting weekends. The other is the young campaigner with Coldplay, Ed Sheeran and everyone else who matters on speed dial, who sets up the Invictus Games and runs international campaigns. That was the one Meghan was interested in. She is interested in being a global humanitarian in the Angelina Jolie mould."

[quote] To palace officials wondering how to handle the couple there was another figure who looms large when you think of young women using a royal platform for global charitable crusading: Harry's own mother. "The danger to them is that Meghan is going to be bigger than Diana," said one source.

[quote] The fear of these people and of some of Harry's friends is that the couple will not happily remain for ever as the undercard of the princes' double act. "More and more friends are worried that they'll just get on a plane and live in LA and never come back," said one friend.

[quote] The couple's first big appointment was that of Sara Latham, a PR expert who previously worked for the Clintons and the Obamas. She started her new job last week. "Sara Latham is American," said a royal watcher. "The one big media play that Meghan has made was with People magazine in the US. That looks to me like someone who cares most how she is seen in America."

[quote] Latham did not oversee the People article, in which Meghan's old friends defended her, but she was involved in the link-up with Winfrey.

[quote] Some members of the royal family, no fans of Meghan, have even speculated that she might one day run for president of the United States herself.

[quote] The fear that Harry and Meghan might seek a new arena revived discussions about offering the couple an opportunity overseas. The benevolent explanation is that in a year or so the Sussexes, with a young family, might value a period away. Courtiers framed this as the opportunity for a "Malta moment", echoing the time the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh spent on the island between 1949 and 1951 while Prince Philip was posted there with the Royal Navy.

[quote] The less palatable view, held by some, is that this would get the Sussexes out of the way. "In some ways it would suit William to get his brother out of the country for a few years and Meghan as far away as possible," said one friend of the brothers.

[quote] Sending the couple to Canada was "mooted, then booted" given that Meghan spent seven years living there and for some it was "too close to the US" and the inevitable tabloid magazine coverage that would ensue. Making Harry governor-general of Australia was discussed and dismissed. The problems were obvious. "The trouble is that you effectively set them up as king and queen of a whole separate country," according to one source. "And 24-hour media means that Australia is not as far away as it used to be."

[quote] Insiders knew something was needed to keep the couple's interest. "The problem with these two is that they want to do, rather than to be," said a source relaying the views of palace officials.

[quote] "They do not like doing the more formal routine stuff the fairs and fetes. They've put noses out of joint because a lot of traditional charities that Prince Philip has stopped doing, the princes and William in particular have said no to taking [them] up."

[quote] Conversations at the palace and in government, which appear to have taken place entirely independently, are now focused on how to devise a bespoke "soft power" role for the couple.

[quote] "People have moved from containment to harnessing Harry and Meghan. There's been a reset," a source said.

[quote] "They sent them down to Frogmore to try to keep them out of the limelight for a bit. This is doomed to fail. They are worried that Harry and Meghan are going to establish a totally separate enterprise that nobody can get under control.

[quote] "There are discussions in palace circles about how do we harness Harry and Meghan and this tremendous global attention they get. How do we draw them back, because laying down the law and ticking them off doesn't work at all."

[quote] One idea, which appealed to ministers, would be to give Harry and Meghan a role as trade envoys, following in the footsteps of the Duke of York, who performed that role until 2011. A senior government official said: "The best trade envoys are energetic and care about trade, so that is two ticks."

[quote] For the royal family this approach is too limiting. Instead, the palace brains trust has been working up plans for a role for the couple, probably in Africa, where Harry has longstanding interests and which he refers to as his "second home".

[quote] He spent some of his gap year in 2004 in Lesotho and two years later founded a charity, Sentebale, with the country's Prince Seeiso. He and Meghan fell in love on a trip to Botswana and are reported to have honeymooned in east Africa.

[quote] The new post is expected to combine some charity work, an element of promoting the Commonwealth and some work on behalf of the UK.

[quote] Harry is already president and Meghan vice-president of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust which is chaired by Lord Geidt, former private secretary to the Queen. He has been helping to plot a role for the princes alongside Sir David Manning, the former British ambassador to the US who advises them on constitutional and international affairs.

[quote] Senior courtiers say the role would have to be broad enough to appeal to Harry and Meghan while capitalising on their "rock star" status in a way that is attractive to the host country.

[quote] Nothing is set in stone. No one has yet decided who would pay for the African enterprise or how the couple's security would be organised. The host country and other Commonwealth nations would have to approve. But what everyone seems to have realised is that the project is a way of managing the swirling relationships between the royal brothers, their wives, their father and the palace officials in a way that is needed.

[quote] It is something that has not gone unnoticed by MPs. One senior Tory said: "The death of the Queen, whenever it is, will be a moment of massive public mourning. Most people can't imagine singing God Save the King. It will create two or three years of gentle national psychological confusion.

[quote] "The same happened when Queen Victoria died. If the royals are then found to fail, I think the whole thing could come crashing down remarkably quickly."

[quote] Officials fear that Meghan will be bigger than Diana.

Seems like the roof was not complete less than a month ago. If they were removing interior walls that had divided it into small apartments, surely that would take time and create a mess?

The fear and confusion among the courtiers is amusing. Meghan and Harry's intransigence is bemusing. William's reluctance to be king and need for reassurance is disappointing. The obvious imperialism shown by the lot of them is irritating. (GG of Australia, really?)

This isn't a pro-Meghan article so I'm surprised at how many references there are to Diana. It's odd that the palace actually see her as that threatening.

If this article is to be believed, Harry seems to have decided that he will not quietly fade into the background and William seems threatened by Harry's popularity. Perhaps William has more in common with Charles than he is willing to admit.

Fergie thanks her dress designer.

The Queen knows a grifter when she sees one.

Someone here posted this yesterday, still laughing.

New bride Princess Margaret with Antony Armstrong Jones.

r497, Your analysis is off in that Meghan is the Anti-Diana. Diana was organically loved by much of the public. Meghan is as loathed by the public as naturally Diana was loved because Meghan is false in every way. If the British public could organise a swift exit right for Meghan, they damn well might consider it. Meghan is an insult to Diana's memory to them. He ostentation, her spending, her demands, her hauteur.

She's everything exactly opposite of what they loved in Diana.

An interesting outfit from a wedding guest called Zannah.

Ella was a lovely bride.

You can really see how ill-fitting Meghan's wedding dress truly was in this photo.

Another photo of the underwhelming and ill-fitting wedding dress.

R497, I think the article IS a pro-Meghan. Just as there’s damning with faint praise, there’s praising with faint damning.

For example: “Some members of the royal family, no fans of Meghan, have even speculated that she might one day run for president of the United States herself.”

And the bit about courtiers shooting down the idea of sending the Harkles to Canada - because it’s too close to the US? The BRF doesn’t want her near the US? If Meghan wanted to be in Canada, they’d go to Canada. SHE doesn’t want to be in any provincial former colony. She’s done with Canada and she’s ghosted it. Not important enough.

The seamstresses loathed Meghan too, apparently.

Look at Kate's dress, Meghan (done by your favourite outlet People, no less) and despair:

R506, not to mention her ill-fitting and highly visible undergarments.

We know how much work goes into the Queen’s clothing so they don’t crease and wrinkle, and so that you don’t see Her underthings.

A dress that is so simple and unadorned will show every and any imperfection. If there is ANY occasion for which you wouldn’t use every possible resource to find perfectly fitted undergarments, it’s a Royal Wedding. She could have gotten a custom-made corset or bra. Instead, we were treated to overflowing flesh and her nipples. (And for someone so slim, it’s nearly impossible to have overflowing flesh, so that’s quite a feat.)

Canada is too close to the US.

I don't know what Meghan wants, but if one is trying to put someone away quietly, shoving them closer to one of the world's largest content creators and media markets would be counter intuitive. If the BRF want the Sussexes out of the way then Canada is a terrible idea IMO.

R510, now I’m just arguing for argument’s sake, not because I have any strong feelings about this. And I do agree with you. BUT if Meghan were determined to make a splash and assert her tungsten will, she could certainly do it from Africa.

All she needs is internet access. She could easily Skype and broadcast and use social media to keep herself visible.

Nobody puts Megain in a corner.

They can’t even get her to live at Frogmore. How are they going to get her to Africa?

Any photos of the brides Aunt Princess Alexandra at yesterday's wedding?

R513 - I haven't seen any photo of Princess Alexandra at Ella's wedding on my Internet travels.

Canada also doesn't want some fucking american larping as a royal wasting money. The people that still care for the monarchy here wouldn't be a fan of that idea

OK thanks r514 I hope it's not because she didn't actually attend because of ill health.

The bride's aunt, Princess Alexandra of Kent was seen about a week ago at a hospital event. Here are some photos.

Alexandra and her brother the Duke of Kent were at a concert recently.

[quote] provincial former colony

Don't be looking down at Canada. It has a higher GDP and better standard of living than the UK. It also has less crime and better social integration.

R511 I think Meghan could be "a nightmare"/"revolutionary"/"woke" anywhere on the planet and spread that message if she wants to do so. I'm agreeing with the article's assertion that BP courtiers considered Canada too close to the US as a safe place to put her away. She can still get attention in Africa but it will be a bit more difficult; though not impossible. It also depends on where in Africa they plan to put the Sussexes. Good Lord, if she's in Nigeria or South Africa she might as well be in London.

r497 Actually I think it is a pro-MM article. As someone has mentioned on another forum - she gets the small things, the details wrong. Palace coutiers may well be discussing where to send them but it would not be roles like "Governor General of Country X", the Palace hasn't had that level of influence in the appointments of officials to represent the UK for a long, long time. Yes Edward VIII became Governor of Bermuda but he was a) a former King and b) causing problems with the war effort. The Government wanted him out of the way.

Courtiers would know this and those roles mentioned are far too high profile for a pair of minor royals with no real important links. Andrew for all his faults, was in the Navy for 20 years and has a lot of high profile business links. When I read the article previously it sounded to me like her casting around for suitably high profile roles (in her mind). We have seen a pattern of things appearing in the media which are actually what MM wants, not what has been agreed.

Bless you thanks very much r517

Odd though she does appear to be any photos from yesterday. Do we know if the duchess of Kent attended? She seems quite frail at times.

I love this photo of Alexandra of Kent as a young girl. Swipe for other photos.

R521 - I didn't see the Duchess of Kent in any photo either. If they release a family group photo perhaps we will know who actually was there for sure.

A young Alexandra in a tiara.

r518 Well it's good to see that Princess Alexandra has recovered from her terrible fall and is able to get out and about again.

Photos of Ella's cousin, Lady Helen Taylor and her family.

r524 Alexandra is so beautiful and regal looking.

R527 - yes, she is. Here are some other photos of her.

R520 I'm not what one those who believes every article has been bought by a PR firm. The article sounds fair to me. It is critical of all the royals. It is not as scathing as the tabloid fare that this thread prefers.

Tim Shipman is the political editor of The Sunday Times. I'd say he probably has more access to insider information on the matter than the posters on this thread unless there are courtiers among us. And if there are, identify yourselves and spill all the tea at once.

An old video of Denmark's Queen Margrethe on a visit to Windsor Castle. Notice the bows, kisses and curtseys from the younger royals. Alexandra is there.

Alexandra in all her finery.

An old video of bows and hand kisses - rinse and repeat - for many royal ladies.

Thanks r528 just hoping all is well and there's some pictures of her from yesterday's wedding!

Ella's parents all dolled up!

r529 I never mentioned PR Firms. I just said that to me it seemed pro-meghan. I would agree that it has insider information, it's a question where some of the insider information came from. Royals don't choose Governor generals. The UK no longer has the power to impose a Governor General on a former colony . So I don't understand where that part of the information is coming from, unless it was someone in MM's side of things. I suppose the courtiers could have been discussing it but that shows a worrying level of naiveity about the UK's place in the world and the way these appointments work.

Alexandra remembers to curtsey to King George VI.

Sorry to any of our Lezzies or Fraus on here but when I see photos like r531 all I can think it that the pre-20th century emphasis on:

ALWAYS hats and corsets had some intrinsic wisdom of

NO sun EVER, and

Minimise the waist by helps to keep stomach small and posture UP

"Look, Granny. Here's the Church. Here's the steeple. Open the doors and see all the people!

Now tell me more about me being Guv'nor General, Gan Gan "

Photos of Flora Ogilvy, daughter of James and Julia Ogilvy and granddaughter of Princess Alexandra of Kent. I find her kind of homely looking.

Someone actually cares enough about Zenouska Mowatt (another granddaugther of Alexandra's) wedding outfit that they made a summary.

If M and H don’t want to live in FrogCottage that’s for them .But If they want another house to live in they have to pay for it themselves and not the taxpayers .

I miss Dangling Tendrils. We were allowed to be honest then.

If they're not living in Frogmore Cottage, then where are they living?

When are the financials released? That would confirm the amount spent on Frogmore, right? And if it’s millions as rumored, they have to be living there.

If they say they spent millions renovating a place that still looks like an overgrown dump, then yeah it's def legit 100%

r539 I think Flora is beautiful and going by her social media she has lots of very good looking artistic male friends 😍Lucky lady!

Thanks for copy/pasting the article, R495 and previous. I think it all sounds very plausible, and it is pro/against anyone.

What I don't understand is how insiders could imagine MM being the next Diana, unless they just mean her being a disruptive force. Diana's backstory, her looks and her ability to exude empathy all came together to make her very appealiang to a lot of people. Meghan doesn't possess any of that--she's riding on a celebrity culture high because of the fairy tale American commoner snagged a prince angle. I don't think many people are enchanted by her charitable endeavors--it's commonplace now for celebs.

R535, yes, there’s something about that article that just screams PR. And I’m the one who said praising with faint damning. That crack about ‘even royals who don’t like her say she’ll run for President’. (Come on. That’s positively ). And describing her as (and namechecking her “charity”) a global humanitarian instead of an actress?

PR.

^^ positively Trumpian

R547 meant "it ISN'T pro/against anyone"

Well they both seem to be seeking streams of revenue -- what better stream of unaccountable revenue than government-funded building works?

Bearing in mind that the ten-bed Anmer Hall only got 1.5 million pounds (personally funded via the Queen) of renovation, do we really think the 5 bed Froggy Bottom genuinely got 3 million pounds' worth of publicly funded renovation?

Or that that maybe someone, somewhere, was skimming over the top and using RedTape to hide it?

R551, you know, I feel like an absolute idiot for not considering that.

There have been several articles about the design and decorating team that is doing Frogmore, so I never doubted that the re-do was happening. There were also several mentions of the organic vegetable garden - and that the Harkles were delaying their move to Drogmore (typo, and it stays) until the garden was completed. (Why a vegetable patch would affect their move is WTF...)

This is from Elle.com: “What Their Frogmore Cottage Home Will Be Like

Plans for Harry and Meghan’s Frogmore Cottage renovations include two conservatory extensions, extensive landscaping, permission for a bedroom to be built above a studio on the property, and several new fireplaces. All traditional floorboards, window frames and doors are to be maintained. Additionally, one of the attractions of Frogmore Cottage is that Meghan and Harry will be able play with their baby in the beautiful gardens, free from intrusion since the home is private property.”

I remember when Amelia Windsor first got attention as "The most beautiful member of the royal family". It was clearly a bone structure optional situation. Big lips and eyes, and that was about it.

Kitty Spencer looked stunning at the Hazbean wedding but after I googled her I was taken aback by how much she'd done to her face (mostly lips). And now she's pushed it past that point.

I read that article a couple of weeks ago. It is utter bullshit. Meghan and Harry do NOT have "tremendous global appeal." They are nothing in the US. They are nothing globally. They're tabloid fodder and that is it. They're hate clicks. The entire article is set up as blackmail - the BRF instead of wanting to get rid of them, is afraid of LOSING them.

Harry and Meghan ARE the fucking undercard, and they'll move in further down. They're not superstars for whom the BRF will have to pay and grant more autonomy (and pay and pay), let them do what they want while paying for it, lest Harry and Meghan go off on their own and someone else gives them a lot of money to be Harry and Meghan.

All of this is simply trying to inflate their value on what Markle thinks is the global marketplace. Give BRF first refusal but it better be on H&M's terms, not the BRF's terms, or Markle will put herself and Harry on the open market. I'm sure the BRF is quaking in its boots when it's not saying here's your hat what's your hurry.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

No british royal is going to own the USA during an election year, especially one with trump in it.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R557 - the wedding reception WAS held at Frogmore House.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

The wedding cake with the bride and guests milling about in the background.

Throwback.....Sunday. The Queen leaves Easter Sunday service 30 years ago with young Harry in 1989. Grandmas the world over have been working this angle since time began. Both his parents and brother took a separate car. With hindsight being 20/20, we can assume the significance of this scenario way back when. "Are Mummy and Pa fighting a lot at home, Harry? Tell Granny. Tell Granny all about it....."

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

r566 Arr thanks I think I spot Princess Alexandra there in a gorgeous blue outfit!

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Gabriella changed into her second dress during the reception and opted for a third gown for evening celebrations. Today she wears a fourth dress for a post-wedding Sunday Brunch .

Any pictures, Insta-Gays?

There is something really rather funeral like about MM's video (not sure how she can copyright something with other people's content). I see she has managed to make it all about her and the wedding being her chance to shine.

Why do they always gray-out Royal threads.

I think a lot of DL hates us. They bitch about us on other threads.

Her publishing things have always kept private for royal weddings is so....trashy. The woman literally has no understanding or appreciation for what makes royals royal, and Harry is 100% to blame. What a worthless ginger, can't even get married properly.

Doesn't matter tho i guess, Charles will keep on funding him.

We want privacy!

Posts private unseen pictures of herself.

Maybe she is mourning the loss of her pap walking sidekicks, Splash News.

R526, her husband is a hot daddy.

Please post on the next Part 59 after this thread maxes out at around 600 posts. Thanks.

R554, I think they do have appeal, but only as entertainment. I suppose some really do believe that they care about their patronages or that Meghan is a global humanitarian. Anyone with critical thinking skills understands that they’re just figureheads and don’t actually give a shit in any meaningful way about amputees or hungry children or land mines (yeah I went there).

It’s part of the game: pick a cause, pose for photos, reap PR points.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Fergie is so proud of her girls.

I can hear Beatrice and Eugenie saying: "But Mummy we're women now remember".

Is it me or is Eugenie's face more puffy (pregnant?)?

[quote]I read that article a couple of weeks ago. It is utter bullshit. Meghan and Harry do NOT have "tremendous global appeal." They are nothing in the US. They are nothing globally. They're tabloid fodder and that is it. They're hate clicks. The entire article is set up as blackmail - the BRF instead of wanting to get rid of them, is afraid of LOSING them.

Diss Meghan all you like - she's one of the most famous women in the world and way more than just tabloid fodder. Sorry.

Did anyone look at R580 yet?

It's TOO MUCH, isn't it?

The Duke and Duchess of Kent had three beautiful blonde children. Unfortunately, only Lady Helen has kept some of her good looks. The boys have morphed into their father (with beards).

One of the most famous women in the world , maybe, but so was Myra Hindley.

r571 No I'm sure in the previous pic Princess Alexandra was there in an aqua blue outfit? Lovely to see Fergie clearly becoming more and more accepted in royal circles.

R583 - the Sussex Royal post has been discussed upthread. Try to keep up, will you.

It's Mean Girl Meghan. Of course, it's too much.

As yet, I haven't seen any photos of Princess Alexandra or the Duke and Duchess of Kent at Ella's wedding.

Someone on here is hallucinating her, R588.

"Thank you for making the memory of this day so special." So, she made the video for the fans. Not for herself. LOL

So now that's two weddings from which Meghan has tried to steal the limelight. First, her open pregnancy coat at Eugenie's wedding and now her "Black & White One Year Wedding Anniversary Extravaganza" a day after Ella's wedding. She's an attention whore and an asshole all rolled into one.

We all must come up with what she'll do next on the same day that Kate unveils her garden at the Royal Chelsea Flower Show. Will she show photos of Frogmore gardens? A flower arrangement from her NYC baby shower? Any predictions?

Where's the link to the new thread?

R593 - here it is.

Thanks, doll.

I guess her big trump card is a photo of the baby. Would be funny if she stayed home from Trooping of the Color. And then just when the rest of the family is on the balcony facing the crowds, she posts a pic of the unwrapped baby.

A rare photo of Queen Victoria smiling.

Queen Victoria's nine children. I've just finished a biography of her youngest son Prince Leopold and I wanted to smack her face after it. She wanted complete control of his life. A mother from hell.

Princess Marina's wedding dress.

I've always liked the quiet dignity of Katherine, the Duchess of Kent. Here are some photos of her.

Well Princess Alexandra was at Wimbledon today with her granddaughter so I'd be surprised if she wasn't at the wedding yesterday.

I don’t understand Harry. The more I think about it, the less I understand him.

He’s been royal his whole life. He’s watched how media attention has devastated the people close to him & he’s fought many battles himself to try and keep private things private. Mention of trips to hospital for broken bones and grainy photos of him sitting in theatres have led to loud complaints to watchdogs and lawyers letters.

He KNOWS that you don’t give the press an inch, because by doing so you tacitly give them permission to take a mile. He KNOWS that the way the BRF do things is designed to protect them so that, away from the cameras, they have some chance at normality.

And we’re supposed to believe that he’s so much in love with Markle, all of this has gone out of the window?

But more significantly...to a great many Brits, Markle is downright embarrassing. Baking banana bread, writing on bananas (what is it with her and bananas?) twee perfume ad style pics, slushy videos set to music.....it’s very, very cringe. Nobody is going to tell me he can’t see that;- he hasn’t morphed into a Californian overnight, and 34 year old men don’t change their personalities to that degree.

If you love someone, you don’t want them to get hurt, so you explain why xyz isn’t a good idea. You explain why things are done a certain way - but if Harry’s done that, Markle ain’t listening.

I know many people think he’s basically always been a famewhore it just took Markle to reveal it - but I don’t believe that. He never once pap walked before he met her, and people who have lived with an oppressive and at times damaging level of fame their whole lives want less of it, not more.

The only explanation that makes sense to me is that Harry is, in fact, not signing off on any of this...and Markle doesn’t bother asking him to. I think the IG is all her & he’s stuck on a carousel he’d like to get off, but doesn’t know how. He can’t ask for help because he’s burned too many bridges that he’s too proud to rebuild & it would feel disloyal to the woman who (I am sure reminds him frequently) gave up everything for him.

He’s a weak, spineless prat with an embarrassing wife - and all of this serves him right. Everyone who cared about him warned him about Markle, but he wouldn’t listen. So now he’s stuck with her.

I predict two things....this time next year, Harry’s popularity figures will have fallen considerably & while he’s never courted publicity (before now) his “People’s Prince” image suited him very well. So losing that will hit him where it hurts and I think the little worm will then start to turn. “Trouble in paradise” stories will swiftly follow.