Treasons You May Have a Rat (The Mueller Investigation Part 103)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons to Protect Our Assets (The Mueller Investigation Part 93) (March 26, 2019)

Treasonable Interference (The Mueller Investigation Part 94) (March 31, 2019)

Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95) (April 6, 2019)

Treasons You May Leave (The Mueller Investigation Part 96) (April 11, 2019)

Treasonable Redactions (The Mueller Investigation Part 97) (April 18, 2019)

Treasons We Won't Abandon Him (The Mueller Investigation Part 98) (April 19, 2019)

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) (April 24, 2019)

Treasons She was Right... About Everything (The Mueller Investigation Part 100) (April 30, 2019)

Treasonable Returns on Your Investment (The Mueller Investigation Part 101) (May 3, 2019)

When It's Treasonable to Assert Your Privilege (The Mueller Investigation Part 102) (May 9, 2019)

Treasons You May Have a Rat (The Mueller Investigation Part 103) (May 17, 2019)

Thank you, OP!

He has such an ugly fucking face.

hoping for a Friday news dump day!!!!

This Flynn unredacted stuff is great

and today is the deadline for Mnuchin/IRS to hand over Trump taxes...5 PM what will happen when they say no again?

How do you unblock someone? I think I accidentally blocked a poster I should not have :/

The Cow still has it going.

Is Devin and Jim Jordan going to be indicted? Please, please say yes. They are guilty of obstruction, they need to go to jail.

♥️ OP!

How about Graham? What has he done? Can we get him?

Thank you OP! Always coming through with a new thread for us.

This morning he is tweeting about the people who spied on him committing treason and deserving long prison sentence and asking why Hilary is not being investigated. He openly talks like an authoritative ruler now and no one calls him on it. The GOP remains silent and/or complicit (Roma fawns over everything he says) and the media still presents him largely as some eccentric who is just Trump being Trump.

meant Ronna (McDaniel) not Roma.

Nunes filed suit in VA. Take it to California. That won't go well.

r8 go to the top of the page where it says ignored. Click on it then click on the X next to the post/person.

Democrats need to really hear what these working class voters are saying: they want a candidate that cares about labor issues, workers' rights and benefits and trade policy. They are less concerned about social issues and social change.

For Democrats to win in 2020, they must win Pennsylvania.

The new info about Flynn is very interesting. Especially the part that there is voicemail and that it may include a member of congress. It's taking forever , but, little by little, drip by drip, it will all come out.

Labor issues should be the public platform, but social issues shouldn't be forgotten, either.

FYI for any posters or trolls who post articles from The Hill-The Hill is extremely right wing. The VP is the notorious John Soloman who is "primarily known for having been accused of biased reporting in favor of conservatives and repeatedly manufacturing faux scandals". That article that was posted by R573 previous thread is garbage.

I have gotten the impression that some posters here are of the notion that The Hill is a non biased reliable site. It is NOT. It is a cut below Real Clear Politics and similar to The Daily Caller. The background of the articles and sites posters bring here need to be known. Sick of the trolls and morons.

WSJ: Barr Says Review of Russia Probe Could Spark Rule Changes

Bloomberg: Lawsuits, Contempt, Fines: How Democrats Could Get Trump’s Taxes

God, Steve Mnuchin is just fucking hideous.

R24 They all are... everyone still working for Trump are true monsters.

[quote]The new info about Flynn is very interesting. Especially the part that there is voicemail and that it may include a member of congress.

Thanks r17

Can’t they call Flynn, Mueller and whoever else in to testify immediately. What the fuck is everyone waiting for?

Subpoenaing Flynn should have been the first order of business this morning.

After singing Flynn's praises for two years, Trump throws him under the bus this morning:

It now seems the General Flynn was under investigation long before was common knowledge. It would have been impossible for me to know this but, if that was the case, and with me being one of two people who would become president, why was I not told so that I could make a change?

I seem to recall both Obama and Sally Yates warning Trump about Flynn.

Trump is tweeting about Hillary’s emails, as he always does when something bad is about to happen. Here’s what people are tweeting back:

And this:

He does eat like he's Henry VIII.

Obama told Trump Flynn was fired for cause. Trump hired him anyway, thinking it would never blow back on him, since he was going to be King and it would never matter. Hahahaha.

[quote]But again, when Pence warned the graduates about being derided for their beliefs he obviously had neither the poor nor the outcast in mind. No, as everyone who heard him surely understood, what he was tacitly telling them is that they should expect to be condemned for being hostile toward the LGBTQ community and blaming it on God. That’s what faith devolves to for so many these days: a requirement to oppose gay rights.

I’d like to know if the Democrats have the balls to pursue this:

After hours?

Blondes have more fun.

USA Today: What threatens democracy? Legendary Navy SEAL warns of Trump's attacks on U.S. institutions

Politico: Barr: The allegation I lied to Congress is 'laughable'

Only if you consider him humorous is it laughable. It's serious business to lie to the people you're supposed to protect. Those reps are the people who elect them. This just confirms he's a meglomaniac and another remorseless liar.

Old Celtic adage for rulers: Be true in your heart, strong in your arm, and honest in your speech.

Such obvious criminals doing their dirty work in plain sight. this country has sunk so low with the "election" of trump. He reached deep into the bowels of the swamp to pull out all manner of bottom feeders.

And this week McConnell's "wife" screws CA by cancelling funds for a SF to LA rail and now threatens to take back funds already sent. Way to ruin a country, trump, fuck with the most successful state in the union while trying to drag back the rest into the 19th century.

CA should built it themselves and tell them to go fuck themselves. Throw a bit of their own bullshit back at them and see how they respond.

*build*

I can't wait for those DOJ lawyers to tell the judge they can't turn over the Flynn stuff the judge has demanded.

Maybe when these fuckers start going to jail for contempt, they will wake up.

How many of them are willing to die on that hill for bloated toadie Billy?

What is going on with Roger Stone's trial?

Is Judge Amy still trying to lick his asshole everytime he defies her rules?

Bill Barr is a devotee of Trump.

Elaine Chao's family are shipping tycoons. It is also a chain migration product. Elaine and McConnell are heavily invested.

For those who missed the story posted earlier, the Russians are investing millions in a company in Kentucky since sanctions have been lifted. Who's from Kentucky???????? ^^^^^^^^

Waarr! So macho. Menz in uniforms comin' back and lifting me and giving dandy kisses.

What happened with Flynn?

Trump is now claiming nobody ever told him Flynn was bad!

What is up with those bumps and sores all over The Senatrice's face and head?

Kaposi's Sarcoma?

If someone from Congress was involved in obstruction, why wasn't he charged? Is this going to be another case of "well there appears to be a lot of evidence but not beyond a reason of a doubt" so Mueller gave him a break? As he did with Don Jr and others...

Mueller really needs to fucking testify to Congress ASAP

Impeach!

R51, some of Flynn's testimony has been uncovered in court filings yesterday. He told the Special Counsel that he and his lawyers were contacted by members of Trump's administration and congress in an effort to interfere with the Russia investigation and his cooperation. Flynn even gave the Special Counsel a voicemail of one of those contacts. So far, the identities of the people who contacted Flynn and his lawyers have not been made public, but it is one of Trump's lawyers at the time and someone from congress.

I know it's not, but I hope it's Rep. "Can't Keep My Eyes Off My Phone" Armstrong.

How much longer do we have to put up with this guy?

re Flynn :

The Government today told the judge they could not file the requested documents because the report is too long and the court system will only handle small entries....the judge shot back : then break it up and make multiple entries...deadline stands.

Their bullshit delay tactics will only last so long before a judge starts locking people up. Barr has no control over the judiciary...and most judges arent pushovers like congress.

Non-verbal behavior: Rollie Pollie scratches his head as he begins many of his lies.

Congress is not a pushover, R59, but we do appreciate that you noticed the efforts to create that delusion. The Congress is US, the people. Are you calling us pushovers?

R59 - I can't believe they tried something that lame as an excuse. Breaking up long docs and/or voluminous exhibits into multiple parts for filing and submission to courts has been the norm for a long time. Wait, on second thought, of course I can believe they used that excuse.

Trump's tax returns were due to the House Ways and Means committee at 5 pm today. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin has just officially refused to hand them over.

Barr is a fascist pig and he needs to be in prison. He is a piece of shit , through and through.

Mnuchen and Barr should be held in contempt and put in jail. Will Democrats do the right thing? They are so weak willed, I doubt it. Nader needs some balls.

lol: Barrghazi

r61...really ?.....Do you believe for even one second that if you, I or anyone else deliberately defied a subpoena that we would not be arrested immediately ? How many people do you know that are given chance after chance to comply with something....and the only response given is basically "fuck you", and are still given chance after chance to comply. Congress IS a pushover and are looking pretty weak right now. It has nothing to do with impeachment. Its about adhering to the rule of law. Barr, Mnuchin, Ross, etc...should have been locked up at the very first refusal.

Mueller is a cowardly, spineless Republican, he will not testify willingly...he is a complete traitor to our country. I had a feeling he was filth all along. Sorry I was right.

Trump is cheating at golf again!

Kyle Griffin:

Ways & Means Chair responds to Mnuchin: "The law, by its terms, does not allow for discretion as to whether to comply with a request for tax returns ... Given the Treasury Secretary's failure to comply today, I am consulting with counsel on how best to enforce the subpoenas."

Since no one I know is a giddamn criminal...no one is getting a subpoena. And when our congress are such lowlife idiots that they will not have these people arrested?! I am lost. All they worry about is the elections! This weakness is what Deplorables hate about us and I do not blame them. Democrats stand for nothing.

Seriously R67? These people are not 'you or I' and you sound deranged by not acknowledging that. I think Congress is continuing to honor the decorum and respect that has existed between the branches for our entire history. This isn't the first time the Executive branch has been defiant to the people's representatives and it makes them look elitist and lawless. It will be their downfall.

Thanks, R70, for providing the example.

[quote]Given the Treasury Secretary's failure to comply today, I am consulting with counsel on how best to enforce the subpoenas."

Why don't you just call up the nearest judge? He'll tell you how to deal with people who don't honor subpoenas.

Hint: it involves handcuffs.

Law doesn’t exist anymore.

From Flynn’s info he gave special counsel isn’t that enough for arrests to be made? Unbelievable!

R73, and the Department of Justice is run by?

The willingness to comply with Congressional requests and subpeonas has always rested upon the respect for the equal powers of all the branches and the unwillingness to play politics with that arrangement. They are resisting because they know there is no enforcement capability when the AG of the US is in the pocket of the Chief Executive. This is why Barr should not have been allowed. Yes, they have no respect for the law. Congress is clearly showing this.

Jeff Sessions understood this and that's why he was canned. Anyone choosing the Constitution over Trump is canned.

I was about to post when R76 posted. He/she is correct. Trump has exposed many structural flaws in our system of government. Take, for example, the issue of Congressional subpoenas: who, exactly, is supposed to enforce them? Federal law enforcement (DOJ, FBI) is controlled by the Executive (the lawless Trump). Congress has no enforcement arm -- Adam Schiff can't do everything himself. The only solution is to go to court.

r72...FFS....NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW. You give them a chance...maybe two or three....but if they continue to say FUCK YOU, then you arrest them...regardless of who they are or the position they hold. THAT IS THE LAW. We are not discussing political policy differences here...we are talking national security. THERE IS A CLEAR AND DISTINCT DIFFERENCE. If Congress cannot get the Executive branch to comply, then immediately file with the courts...thats why there are three separate branches of government.

They've been doing that, R78. No need to shout.

r79...please point me to the court filings. There are not any. We still do not have an unredacted Mueller report, any of the evidence, and the administration and the DOJ are openly mocking congress publicly and defying subpoenas. How long do you suggest we allow them to play games and to dictate what we can and can not have access to ? After its too late to do anything ? After they have completely overthrown the government ?

R80, how about over 30 years? This process has been happening since Reagan. No one was held accountable for Iran/Contra. How about the WMD affair and the outright lies of both Bush administrations to gain control of the Iraqui oil fields and cover up our own crimes by giving them chemical weapons to use on the Kurds.

Just because you just woke up doesn't give you the right to condemn those who have been 'seeing' this shit for what it is for some time now.

Essentially, and most fundamentally, our DOJ believes that the voting booth is the real solution here. We gave Mnuchin his chance...now the court filings begin.

It will take some time to change the obvious flaws in this set up because it took us quite some time to get here. Welcome to the party!

I cannot believe congress just keeps setting new time limits, HOW INEPT CAN THEY BE? My god, what a bunch of powerless lowlifes Democrats are...this is the end and no one to protect our democracy, our ass is hanging out in the wind. Democrats have no pride.

In a way, I'm glad that the Democrats are following the rule of law instead of going low. Our rule of law needs to be preserved and respected. But, otoh, I am impatient and I'm frustrated and angry by the way the Republicans are just ignoring our laws. I have to believe that slow and steady wins the race and that good will prevail.

Oh fuck OFF R82. *You* are the problem. The Dem strategy is just fine — they are demonstrating that they are reasonable and fair, this only increases their credibility and leverage. It would be ever so refreshing if you would back up the party, you are indeed a Democrat, yes?

This is revenge of the young Republicans of 1974. Ever since Nixon's resignation they've been building their case for an executive superior in power to Congress and the courts—a Republican executive, anyway. They're finally confident enough, and have a president shameless enough, to make their grab. And it coincides with a rise in autocracy elsewhere in the world to put more wind in their sails and rubles in their coffers.

All you DC area gays we need to to yell and shame these motherfuckers anywhere you see them. Shame their kids,grand kids and don’t serve them If thdy show up at your establishment. SOMEONE is cutting and coloring mnuchins wifes fake ass blonde hair - fuck it up with the wrong toner. Oops so sorry, mrs mnuchin. You would be a folk hero!

The anti-Dems are here. Or should I say trolls because frustration with the Dems is 100% a Russian division tactic. If you are familiar with how our govt works, how our rule of law works, you know the Dems are not being spineless or weak in any way. They are exhausting their options to, as has been pointed out, preserve the rule of law and procedures. Is it frustrating? Yes. It is time consuming? Yes. Is it necessary? Yes, if you don't want us to completely descend into complete lawlessness which we are very, dangerously, close to. We have an entire branch of govt and political party that has forsaken any semblance of law, democracy, decency. Dems have to play this just right or it is over. The judicial branch is probably very close to being stooges for conservatives without regard for our Constitution.

I despise Mnuchin’s wife like the plague.

Mnunchin is so goddam fugly, he should be considered a walking hate crime against humanity.

Ha! Lol R89!

They had a chance to pull this off but Jeff Sessions and John McCain did them in.

It’s just been a slow motion disaster since then. They are screwed and all the can do now is buy time.

It was over from the moment Sessions recused himself.

That was not part of the plan.

Can you imagine being married to this sack of shit? Whatever she's getting out of this marriage, she's earning every dime. The thought of seeing his O face makes me nauseated. But I'm glad it's her rather than a normal woman.

NYT: Steven Mnuchin Refuses to Comply With Subpoena for Trump’s Tax Returns

Who is doing that cunt's hair?

He uses the same hair dye as Raygun.

One good thing our WH resident has done is completely destroy the legacy of Reagan, and both Bush's. He's called all of them horrible, the worst presidents of all time. And the cuckold GOP just accepts it. Too fucking funny.

Do you really think it's " Slow and Steady" or do you think Trump has Blackmail pics pn a few of the Dems?

Whe hete thinks this might go all the way to a civil war? Goddammit these Motherfuckers aren't yielding an inch!

I know,.. Mary!

He has NOTHING on the Dems but he, or Putin, has plenty on the GOP.

Rats are way cuter than Nunes.

[quote]Can you imagine being married to this sack of shit?

Ewww, just the thought of having to swallow Mnuchin's rancid cum or having to *gulp* kiss his filthy mouth....

Pecker & DJT interests bit off more than they could chew when they tried to blackmail and/or extort Jeff Bezos, the Amazon CEO and WP owner.

Sack o' Shit Munchkin is on his third wife. I suppose that as they age out he trades them in for a nubile blonde, even as he becomes ever more bloated and saggy.

He makes that rancid trophy wife rim his unwiped ass every night. You just know that is true. Look at her? She would do anything for money.

She comes from money, R102, from a posh lowland Scottish family. She rims dirty ass because that's what they all do.

[quote]He makes that rancid trophy wife rim his unwiped ass every night.

Please, don't excite the La Sénatrice in case she's perusing DL this evening.

r104 She is always here, reading this thread. Besides, she has already rimmed his shit filled ass. She has done all the dirty things you can imagine and the ones you can't. Who do you think came up with the idea of the Human Centipede?

R103, my dinner will be ready in 5 minutes...thank you for ruining it with visons of munching on Mnuchin. Oh well, I need to lose a few pounds, anyway.

The whole lot of them needs to be on the best-dressed list. And by dressed, I mean like venison.

Playing ball

A little off topic, (and this was discussed years ago on previous threads), but I still truly believe that a plan was conceived to elect Trump President - Trump SPECIFICALLY - long before 2016, and not only was the general National Election hacked, but the GOP as well.

Doesn't anybody recall the story reported on Rachel Maddow, (as well as a few other outlets), about how back in 2015, then front-runner Jeb Bush's campaign was derailed by outside forces the day it began? and how "outside forces" kept affecting other GOP candidates within days once they emerged as a front-runner? It all kept happening until Trump was last man standing. It was just the first big enterprise leading up to the GOP Convention. Then all the stuff with Hillary started to emerge.

It just can't be seven cigar smoking gentleman callers lined up to visit Miss Thang???

r109 Of course. It was so obvious and systematic. The GOP is allowing this because they pray Putin will keep them in power.

It was Matt Gaetz! I thought it was Nunes.

"He broke his oath of office. He's defying you. He's laughing at you. And he's getting away with it."

R111 Then, like me, don't you think more should have been made out of that? If more attention was brought to that aspect, U.S. citizens might actually wake up and start paying attention. They might realize how truly evil and insidious this is, and not just a minor issue to be dismissed.

R112 That makes sense. I forgot how much of a scumbag Gaetz is compared to Nunez. They're pretty equal!

The Russian Trolls are all over the thread "Employers across the country panic" like locusts on crops.

Politico: Mueller’s House testimony likely off until at least June

Showing their hand

r118 And gay rights, not just marriage, are on the table as well. Rights will be gutted across the board. They never believed in America they only believed in conservatism.

r112....they didnt say that...in fact, the article states they dont know who was referenced in the Mueller filing.

SO what will be the consequences for Nazi sympathizer, DUI non-convict, and nepotism recipient Rep. Matt Gaetz?

he should be kicked out of Congress but I doubt that will happen

The Dems should have had Barr and Mnuchin in jail today! And it most certainly would have been legal. You wishy washy assholes are helping to destroy our democracy.

Is there a way to actually imprison them though? Yes they have the power but how to execute it? The Sargent of Arms alone would likely be ignored.

r121....and dont forget the dead roommate ( I say it was a lovers spat with his bf)....everyone forgets the dead roommate. It was investigated as a homicide until daddy got involved and suddenly it was a suicide.

Didn't Gaetz already threaten somebody on social media before? I vaguely recall some brouhaha over that.

I am getting sick of the division anti-Dem trolls. They are doing a lot and we all know things are going slowly but we don't know everything they are doing and there is only so much that can be done when those in charge of law enforcement are actively thumbing their noses at the rule of law. We are in uncharted territory. The scope of what the GOP has done is something that is almost beyond comprehension and what the Dems do about it needs to be carefully thought out and enacted. That isn't fun or glamorous but might just get the job done.

Russian trolls want us to be frustrated with the Dems and attack them.

He threatened Cohen before he testified....the Fla Bar just opened an investigation about it.

Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida is a cunt!

r129 He looks like he doesn't wipe very well and has long skid marks in his undies.

Republicans have been working to subvert our democracy for decades. Impeaching Clinton over a blowjob, White Water, Benghazi, hanging chads, needless invasion of Iraq, implosion of economy under Bush, emergence of Tea Party and blatant racism when Obama was elected, obstructing Obama at every turn, gerrymandering, cheating, lying, blocking Merrick Garland, not filling judge-ships until Repukes were back in power, cheating to win, and on and on.

And for what? To further enrich billionaires and oppress everyone else. This is not a democracy any more, this is not majority rule. This is cheaters pulling the rug out from hardworking honest people to drag the country back into the dark ages. And now, blatant lying, mocking, and corruption by top government officials. It's too much. We've got to stop it.

We've become so weak and lazy. Our ancestors crossed oceans in little boats and hacked their way though forests, hunting for food and building their own shelter, crossing the country in covered wagons and dying for freedom. How have we come to this? Powerless in the face of a criminal coup.

I'm writing to all my representatives to IMPEACH NOW. It may not get past corrupt Senate but it's got to be on the slime-ball's record. Unfit to serve. No re-election allowed.

Impeach now is the stupidest move imaginable. They want that so bad. Just keep having hearings, shit is coming out almost daily now. Leaks are happening. He knows this is the only way he loses. He wants impeachment. He would wear it as a badge of honor. He doesn't want facts coming out. If this were impeachment hearings, no one would listen because they would feel it is an overreach. They'd tune it out. But constant hearings and leaks and shit coming out is damaging him. Nancy was whip smart to say impeachment was not something they were looking at "right now" but it wasn't off the table.

He can't run against that.

Impeachment is a gift to Trump at this point. Only stupid people are saying, "Fuck the investigations and their chess-like strategy, I want simple, stupid, tic-tac-toe strategy that gives Trump a two X head start!"

Agree.

KNOWING the Republican Senate is not going to convict based on a Democratic led impeachment, means impeachment, right now, will be viewed by many in the middle as just more political tit-for-tat.

However, using multiple investigations to reveal more and more Trumpian (and Republican - see Gaetz, Dowd, Ryan) dirt leaves it to the public to decide who they want to be in bed with. The White House (and the GOP) knows the latter could be devastating for them in 2020, which is why they are doing everything they can to resist (the report’s too big to file. WTF??) and to claim that “investigations ended” with our release of Mueller excerpts.

Did anyone shame a rethuglican last night? Share!

They can't be shamed r135. These people do not carry normal human feelings. They're cold as ice, delusional and egocentric (and usually dumb as dirt where it matters). Engaging with them is a waste of your time. Ignoring them works best. They want to fight, there is nothing they look forward to more than to spread their hate and stupidity. Ignoring them really messes with their heads. They expect everyone to be as immature and erratic as them. Let them know they're useless and not worth validation.

R136 I was thinking much more lowbrow, not debating them but nuisance actions like smearing dog poo on car doors, Putting impeach trump stickers on their property etc.

r137 well don't get me wrong, that definitely sounds like fun. Just don't get caught and give them the "both sides" excuse lol.

R133 andR134, I totally agree. It's best for the Democrats to just keep on plugging away the way that they are. It will all come out.

So Trump is the real Manchurian Candidate? Odd how movies and tv shows are becoming real.

Should we be shaming in our own communities, too?

AP: Step by step: Democrats play the long game against Trump

Every single committee in the House needs to read the Mueller report into the record....EVERY SINGLE COMMITTEE. Make it nearly impossible that the report is not made public. I am shocked that the majority of people have no idea what the report says....and I blame that on Barr and Congress allowing him over a month to control the narrative....and theyre still allowing it.

Louise

Melania

Miller

r146....lol....I thought you were following the last few posters and were posting a naked picture of Stephan Miller.

Acting Homeland Security Chief wants Stephen Miller out of his business. Threatens to resign.

R147 haha, if one was available; but ain't going to Breitbart to search for one.

Well, there is the spray-on hair.

Since the rethugs are refusing to follow the rules of law, impeachment may be the only way to get the documents and other materials Congress has been requesting for months.

Stop pussy footing around and throw these fuckers in jail for contempt.

I guarantee the first time Stevie hate crime against humanity mnunchin sits in a jail cell, he will change his mind and turn over the tax returns

These pukes are bullies and cowards.

Hilary Geary, Wilbur Ross wife

When it comes to self-delusion, some people here are entering Norma Desmond territory.

The Mueller probe ended with zero indictments for Russian collusion. Zero indictments.

Time to open your eyes to the harsh reality that Mueller and Co. failed in their mission to drive Trump out of office.

It's over. It's over and it's time to move forward.

^Boris

R154, thinks you have to be a Russian spy to be able to discern the flat-out failure of the Mueller mission.

Poor, R154, that and the increasingly bizarre rantings of Rachel Maddow are all he has left.

Hey, R154, maybe the Russian colluders are hiding under Saddam Hussein's vast arsenal of WMDs.

Washington Post: ‘It’s entirely inappropriate’: Trump shot a political video on Air Force One

Lets face it, Stephen Miller is President. Steve Bannon is Co-President.

I blocked the Boris at r153. They are once again flooding this site.

All this border bullshit has been exacerbated by Pres Bone Spurs. It is hysterical this thing benefited and employed illegal immigrants in probably thousands of jobs over the years denying the very people who voted for him jobs they blame on the immigrant, not the man who hired the immigrant. These same people think he actually wants to fix the border and immigration situation where he and his donors benefit enormously. He is only using this issue, and the racists who cry about it, and has no intention of solving this problem.

Block R153, the pig.

Jeb Bush wasn't the only campaign impacted by "outside forces." Chris Christie's campaign in New Hampshire was sandbagged by a super pac funded in part by a Russian oligarch. I think there were allegations about Marco Rubio's campaign being impacted similar to Jeb Bush, but I can't recall the specifics.

I would love to know if the Russians hacked the New Hampshire voter rolls, similar to what they did in Florida. There were definitely shenanigans going on in New Hampshire.

Of course the Russians took down every republican candidate to make way for Pres Bone Spurs. It is obvious. It was so systematic it was almost comical.

Russians have absolutely hacked and changed votes. Yet, conservatives and our WH resident are so weak and beholden to them they've let them not only get away with it but have been licking their asses. The USA looks weak and feckless and all because of conservative thirst for power.

We know from news articles that Jared Kushner and David Wildstein worked to derail Christie's initial campaign for governor through their website, but they failed (Corzine was that bad a governor). So Wildstein tunneled his way into the Christie administration, and when it looked like Christie was going to be the Republican frontrunner in the next presidential campaign, Wildstein took Christie out and walked away with a sweetheart deal. There was a news article that said Wildstein hoped to be part of a Trump administration, and this was years before Trump actually announced.

My unsupported conspiracy theory is that Trump went to Russia for the pageant and boasted about taking out Christie, probably taking all the credit for himself. At that point, the Russians knew they had their idiot candidate. And here we are.

I disagree about impeachment. The Democrats will look weak if they don't put a stain on Trump's time in office. It would be an awful look in history if he gets to roll through unscathed and there's no guarantee he won't be reelected.

The repub base is not going to get any more animated to vote for him again than they already are. Trump will always find something to shape the narrative that he's a success and a victim of the media and Democrats. If they don't impeach, Trump will incorporate that into his 2020 campaign saying they wanted to "but there was nothing there so they couldn't".

Impeaching him would make the Democratic base very happy and energized. Most of us know the Senate won't remove him but if all the evidence is laid out, it will be the repubs who look bad for voting no, not the Democrats for voting yes.

I agree there should be multiple televised hearings to lay out the case. I think that will convince more people.

I agree with R162 - AND I think we should keep hammering away at him in all other ways as well.

and I want Trump's name and reputation to be fully exposed and TARNISHED. I don't want to see him at future Presidential gatherings with the others like nothing happened. I don't get why Nixon was allowed to do that until his death. Trump is way worse though. Of course the best case is Trump does not get reelected and then gets indicted by multiple prosecutors but that could be wishful thinking

"Madam, I can tell you with all certainty that Trump is indeed cut".

I whish Pelosi would be more like some Late Show host (Guys, we're gonna have a great time in the next two years! We are gonna have investigations, interviews, unredacted reports, and so many special guests!).

and we know Trump is a coward. In the event he doesn't get reelected, I could see him leaving the country to somewhere like Russia so he doesn't have to face jail time.

[quote]Since the rethugs are refusing to follow the rules of law, impeachment may be the only way to get the documents and other materials Congress has been requesting for months.

Let the courts do their work. The first case will literally be decided next week, almost 100% guaranteed in the Democrats' favor, and the rest of the chips will fall into place. The Democrats are working methodically. The Repugs are working like 1000 clowns trying to get out of tiny car all at once. As I said before, impeachment is a gift to Trump. And, no, most of America has no idea how impeachment works and that the Repugs will find him not guilty in the Senate due to nothing other than politics. Ninety percent of Americans are idiots and they would see the Senate find him not guilty and say, "Well, guess he didn't do anything." This is a country where almost no one has read the Mueller report and just believed Barr's summary and went back to their phones. Don't ever overestimate the intelligence and knowledge of Americans as a whole or you will pay the price.

I agree with R168. I want impeachment as much as anyone, but the Democrats are in a no win situation if they impeach Trump. It will backfire on them. Let them do what they're doing. They are following the rule of law and being methodical. Every day we get another bit of information that exposes Trump , his crooked administration, family and all the sycophantic Republicans. The democrats are not giving up and rolling over. They are finding ways and I believe that in the end, they will be victorious. Maybe, just maybe, in the weeks before people go to vote, they or some leaker, will drop the big one on Trump. Just like Comey did to Hillary.

I agree too many Americans are idiots who lack comprehension skills or too lazy to get into the details of news stories BUT I was encouraged by the reaction to Kavanaugh. THe majority of Americans did not want him being confirmed and his confirmation led to a massive outcry that helped Democrats win the House by a big majority. So I do think if the case is laid out in televised hearings, Democrats can frame the narrative that despite all this evidence, the repubs don't want do do anything about it because they want to maintain power. The media could help too if they say that.

Just watched Joe Biden's speech in PA. So refreshing after 3 years of lies and boasts from Dirty Don.

I don't know who will win the nomination and will support whomever does but for now I'm enjoying Joe. He's not perfect but he's never mocked a disable man or Gold Star family, cheated on his wife with porn stars, or the zillions of other corrupt and illegal crap that trump's done. There is no comparison. Trump is scum.

From Joyce Alene @JoyceWhiteVance

GOP Congressman @justinamash, who has read the redacted Mueller Report, concludes Barr has deliberately misrepresented the Report’s findings & Trump has committed impeachable offenses. He lays out his reasoning in this thread. Let’s hope he can help his colleagues grow a spine.

Wow!! Finally

^^^^^^^^^^^

CNN is covering this story now, and even the repulsive, snarky repug, SE Cupp, said Amash’s comment is “significant”.

Zzzzzzzzz......wake me up when McConnell turns on him, along with Lindsey and Burr.

We dont need them r175

Newsweek: GOP Rep: 'President Trump Has Engaged in Impeachable Conduct'

SE Cupp is not a the Trump train and has seemed reasonable when I have caught her show. She even said the Dems need to win.

^^^^^^^^^ Yes, I agree that S E is not on the Trump train, and she wants the Dems to win in 2020. But bottom line, she’s a Repug through and through.

Having a Republican in Congress say this publically can only help. Notice that every day, there's always a new piece of news that comes out against Trump. Whether it's a GOP Congressman calling for impeachment or an audio tape or a letter from Mueller....all of these bits and pieces will start to build and take its toll.

As someone pointed out, when the Watergate hearings started, there was only about 19% of the public calling for Nixon's impeachment. That was June of 1973. By summer of 1974, it rose to 57%. And Nixon was smarter than Trump.

Mueller needs to appear before Nadler's committee ASAP.

Mueller needs to end the confusion.

[quote]GOP Congressman @justinamash, who has read the redacted Mueller Report, concludes Barr has deliberately misrepresented the Report’s findings & Trump has committed impeachable offenses. He lays out his reasoning in this thread. Let’s hope he can help his colleagues grow a spine.

I am so absolutely untrusting after these last few years that I need to know what kind of guy Justin Amash is before I make a conclusion. Was he a Trump supporter up until now? Was he a rabid Republican or somewhat moderate before now? Is his constituency more moderate?

The reason I will only trust this after knowing all of that kind of stuff is because I still think impeaching Trump and having him not be convicted by McConnell's Senate would be an absolute gift to Trump going into 2020. Pelosi has stated that she will not even consider moving forward until it's a bipartisan move. Well, this give her that bipartisanship. So, I'm wondering if this guy was the chosen sacrificial lamb to take the hit to work them closer to getting the Dems to go to full impeachment more quickly because the Repugs thought they weren't moving fast enough for it to have the best outcome for Trump for 2020 in their fucking upside down world logic.

Unless some others soon follow, I'm going to have a hard time believing this isn't some gamesmanship. I hope this opens the floodgates. I guess we'll see soon enough.

I think your suspicions are justified. I want to go for impeachment, because I think the hearings would be very, very useful. But I get your suspicions, and I get why that might be a bad idea.

Of course we're all frustrated. The GOP is burning down the institutions of democratic government as we speak.

Will "slow and steady investigation" work? Are there enough courts still tied to the rule of law to force the GOP's hand? Guess we'll all find out together over the next several months.

Doesn't help that this is the biggest political scandal in American history. Think about it. Our government is currently being run by a loose organization of fascist dictators around the world tied to the Russian mob.

yes S.E. Cupp is tolerable BUT keep in mind she is bff with Meghan McCain who is intolerable

Newsweek: George Conway Uses Rolling Stones Lyrics to Compare William Barr to Roy Cohn

C-Cup went on a cruise with Moogan and the husbear and stayed outside their cabin while Moogan proved to be a SCREAMER.

Ben must be good at eating plush rug.

I trust Nancy’s judgement. She is correct. Let’s see some of these GOP losers put their own asses on the line for once — they’re going to have to police their own. IF they show Nancy that they will vote to convict in the Senate, *then* we impeach. Until then, it’s death by 1,000 cuts for Orange Marmalade.

Not bad-looking

When you see that someone is breaking the law, you should try to have them arrested, I want Trump arrested, he is a traitor to our country. He should be hung by his neck until dead. I had no Idea that a president would never have to face the courts. I am sick to death of my country. We have tied our own hands.

R177 Too little too late... this may make him look fair-minded, but it will end up as a footnote in the history books only to highlight how 99% of the GOP is irredeemably corrupt.

Remember...It starts with one...

Pundits like S.E. Cupp make more money when they are opposing the current government. No wonder she wants the Dems back in power. Even she knows she can't defend Trump's actions and nobody is paying her to do so.

NYT: Trump Shows Signs He Will Pardon Servicemen Accused or Convicted of War Crimes

What is frustrating is that it's obvious that Trump is a criminal traitor, but OMG! Don't say that out loud or you might DIVIDE this fragile country! Because so many are apparently still convinced that Trump is an honest man and it's all a witch hunt. And, apparently, we can't afford to upset these ignorant idiots or ALL is lost!

Trump lies all day long....how could anyone say he is honest?

R196, this country is as divided as it is ever going to be unless we are in the middle of the next actual Civil War. Your whining is ridiculous. No one cares about Trump's idiots. We are fighting the criminals in the GOP who do have actual fucking power. Now, let the grown ups do the work and keep your blathering to your mom because she's the only one who cares.

This is good news. A crack in the damn.

The damn what?

'concern'

Why are me so concerned all the time?

How possible is it to, not only remove Trump from office, but prove that he was never the legitimate president in the first place.

Could we then undo every pardon, every judge appointment, etc?

I think from the point of his removal onward there should be a committee - even a cabinet position - devoted to rectifying what Trump has wrought and incarcerate maybe not those who simply benefited from his promotions, but certainly those who were in on the fix.

Cabinet members who knowingly accepted appointments running departments they intended to undermine.

Kavanaugh should not only be removed, but arrested, as should Kennedy for knowingly retiring early - not to mention Kennedy’s son.

The Blackwater war criminal that’s about to be pardoned should have that pardon overturned, and Prince arrested because he’s in on the fix, as is his sister DeVos.

These people are pirates. Hijackers.

This Trump presidency, aka regime, should be declared illegitimate either while Trump is still in the White House or, more likely, after. Of course I doubt Pelosi would try waste any resources on something like that and rather focus on making the best of a really bad situation and fix all the messes that are bubbling on the surface and leaving those underneath untouched and that includes those Trump and GOP appointed judges. I believe the only way we will get rid of Barr and Kavenaugh is when they drink or eat themselves to death. So I'd send the worst junk food and moonshine possible to them. Since it will be for free they will gobble it out like it's liquid gold.

Sorry, gobble it UP like it's liquid gold.

News of Russian influence for contracts in the far right party of Austria, snap elections, more proof of Russia's menacing. When will people wake up?

[quote]I need to know what kind of guy Justin Amash is before I make a conclusion. Was he a Trump supporter up until now? Was he a rabid Republican or somewhat moderate before now? Is his constituency more moderate?

No, he has not been a Trump supporter. He's a "true-believer" Republican ... a strict constitutionalist, almost a libertarian. He represents my district and though I've never voted for him, I appreciate the fact that he is consistent with his principles. (I just don't agree with many of them.) He's voted against the Republicans on a number of issues and many R lawmakers are not at all fond of him. There's no way he's doing the bidding of Trump or establishment Republicans.

During WWII, the world was in crisis but Americans really rallied together around Democratic President FDR. Positivity and patriotism to support American troops was broadcast in print and on the radio and even in popular songs. My relatives that grew up during WWII during 1939 to 1945 still retain that positivity.

In the early Obama years of hope, it felt more positive until GOP obstructionism killed anything and everything he proposed.

Now we are so divided and fractured. tRump has allowed America's true colors to be revealed. America is in or near a Constitutional crisis and everthing feels so TOXIC. We face several serious threats and a house divided against itself cannot stand.

I believe in Pelosi's long game and will vote for the Democratic nominee but am just struck at how low the office of the POTUS has sunk.

I'm watching ABC's Sunday show on and off. Heidi Heitkamp was trying to score some points against Trump, when the progressive Democrat jumped in to argue with her about Medicare for All. While the two ladies were arguing passionately, Chris Christie just sat back in his chair, grinning. This is what we have to look forward to for the whole next year.

Putin is establishing friendly autocracies around the world. It's a blend of masterful manipulation, criminal behavior/thuggery, financial greed, and the thirst for control and power. DJT was an incredibly easy pawn in this scheme. Dangle illicit money before him and stroke his ego. It works all the time.

But the big failure is the corporate media for not exposing the corruption early. They embraced the fix for ratings and luring advertisers.

Congress consists of power hungry Republicans that put party above country, and caters to the super rich while throwing bones at their base to stir shit to get elected/re-elected. Democrats play nicer, but get diverted and frustrated, due to a corrupt Executive Branch and a complicit GOP majority in the Senate. Special interests compromise Democrats as well, though in a somewhat different and considerably less sinister way.

Perhaps ultimately, the worst of all is the electorate. Too much of it is under-informed, inadequately educated, lack critical thinking, apathetic, confuse propaganda (Fox, etc.) as news, vulnerable to excessive identity politics, and show disinterest in being civic minded.

The cable media is already pushing a horserace for 2020. Pundits have began labeling and "upping and dowing" Democratic candidates before the first debate will occur. Regardless of how unpopular Trump may be in the polls, the media will facilitate a rise for him to generate election season drama, again for ratings. The Jake Tappers, the S. E Cupps, the Chuck Todds, and the Steve Kornachis, and their bosses, have the established motivations for such.

Most intelligent people always knew Trump was a criminal...I don't think we suspected that every single Republican was also Republican.

Trump really did say if he ran for President, he would run as a Republican, because Republicans are stupid...stupid and without morals.

R206, Austria's far right party threw its vice chancellor to the wolves when he was caught on tape trying to bribe a woman posing as a Russian oligarch's daughter. That's right, retrograde Austria is a bit more on top of things than we are.

The news media could have exposed Trump for who he was from the beginning but he made the news and now we have this mess. The producers have no morals and have caused the downfall of our democracy. By the way, they pushed for the Iraq war...causing the deaths of a 100 thousand innocent Iraqis. Republicans are evil but what about the media? Are they the good guys? I wish.

Donald Trump says he hasn't released tax returns because he's being audited — and claims he is being audited because of his faith.

"Well, maybe because of the fact that I'm a strong Christian, and I feel strongly about it, maybe there's a bias," Trump told CNN after Thursday's debate.

Strong christian? Oh my sides. 😂😂😂

Yet no one will question this statement by him.

r210, Putin is setting himself up as the Queen Victoria of autocrats.

Trump's faith is The Ferengi Rules of Acquisition.

[quote] But the big failure is the corporate media for not exposing the corruption early. They embraced the fix for ratings and luring advertisers.

I know this goes way too deep into conspiracy theory realm, but the media was corrupted and bought up by right wing supporters to prevent another Watergate from happening. The media is now amass manipulation tool to sell the general public a narrative that suits the likes of Putin, Trump, and the Conservatives in general. It's all Fake News this, witch hunt that and who is a troll and who isn't on social media. Actual discourse is hindered by trolling, SJWism, and Divide & Conquer schemes.

De Blasio, uh no.

CNN: Romney disagrees with GOP congressman's conclusion on Trump's 'impeachable conduct'

Vox: Trump blames Obama for not warning him about Michael Flynn. Which Obama did.

Reuters: White House 2020 hopefuls turn to foreign policy, slam Trump on Iran

Mitt Romney is a yellow-bellied coward. Just another rich guy looking out for himself. Loser.

No Republican can be trusted...they are all corrupt.

CBS: Schiff: Trump has made Iran confrontation "far more likely"

Interesting ...

Passages from the Mueller Report:

R226 I saw that on Twitter this morning. If you READ the actual report, you'll know that Trump is guilty. We need to start plastering this stuff all over the Internet.

This was probably already posted, but it still pisses me off that Donnie Dotard used Air Force One to shoot an illegal video:

R227 Agreed! Post and re-post, far and wide!

Trump is the trashiest , trash in the world. Day after day, nothing but more damage to the world, due to Trumps evil ways.

R182- I'm more suspicious about George Conway. Shouldn't he and Kelly Anne be signing divorce papers right now if he was legitimately targeting Trump? I don't trust that there's not some kind of ulterior motive to what he's doing.

Trump acts like he is running a high school cafeteria instead of a country.

[quote]Well, maybe because of the fact that I'm a strong Christian

I absolutely realise that trolling and lying is now Trump's sexual substitute, but this statement is beyond the event horizon of satire.

It really has to be up there with: Shooting someone on Fifth Avenue; Grab 'em by the pussy; Not paying taxes makes me smart; and, Being a stable genius.

This then is the new sect of Deplorable Christianity. The Pope however seemed unpersuaded.

What r230 said.

QE II has to host him this summer. I wouldn't be surprised if she wills herself to die beforehand.

Does anyone know what to make of Nancy Pelosi's son partying with Trump family on NYE?

Yeah, if nothing else, Trump has ripped the mask off the Republican Party. Yes, there really are a lot of racists and nazis in the party. Yes, they really don't give a shit about protecting yeoman farmers or struggling small businesses. Yes, they really do want to blow shit up in the MidEast just for the hell of it. Yes, they really do want Mexican kids in cages, cause it's fun to them. And yes, they do love the idea of rape victims being thrown in jail for not wanting to carry their rapist's child. A lot of us have known this for decades, but now they are making it obvious to the whole country.

the 1 thing is I want Democratic candidates to start engaging military and veterans more. They need to repeat over and over again how Trump is not helping or supporting them and show them how horribly he treats them

Trump is the one who brings the apocalypse and with that I mean the uncovering of the uncomfortable truth how weak and corrupt the political system is not just in the US but all over the world where profiteers like Putin cause chaos in countries to push for governments to be run by fear and right wing extremists who create more chaos that is benefitial for these profiteers.

agree with r238 too. I don't know what we need, but apparently this constitution is not up for the challenge of a thoroughly corrupt, shameless President combined with a thoroughly corrupt shameless Republican Party in control of the Senate.

Here’s the NYT Deutsche Bank money laundering article referred to above. Kushner, Trump and Trump Foundation transactions with Russians in 2016 and 2017 were flagged by bank security specialists as being suspicious, but never investigated by higher-ups.

NYT: Deutsche Bank Staff Saw Suspicious Activity in Trump and Kushner Accounts

AP: Schiff: Amash criticism not enough to push Trump impeachment

Trump and Kushner are both criminals, along with Putin...criminal activity crops up in bank records.

Who really wants impeachment NOW though when we can have so much fun with the upcoming investigations, public hearings and interviews? Make these traitors squirm in public television and make it trend on twitter and social media. Trump will think twice to pull any serious stunt when the public is really pissed at him like the farmers.

seriously, not since Nixon have we seen an entire Administration that belongs in jail. It's kind of amazing.

Sorry, make them squirm ON public television and

[quote]Does anyone know what to make of Nancy Pelosi's son partying with Trump family on NYE?

Perhaps they were all there to hear Louise Mnuchin speak about feeding cake to the proletariat masses?

Politico: Trump team convinced court overhaul will drive 2020 win

NYT via Miss Haberman:

R.N.C. Accepts Money From Steve Wynn, Mogul Accused of Sexual Misconduct

Certainly the court appointments will motivate his base, but will they motivate them more than in 2016? And is his base as large as it was in 2016? And will the court appointments (and other Trumpian acts) motivate anti-Trump voters any less?

Trump IS a stable genius, he's really great at shoveling heaps of horse shit.

Every time someone says he a stable genius, I think of this Randy Rainbow video.

Is this Deplorable misinformed? Stupid? or knowingly spreading lies??

All three, r256.

Ganga Tarot on Trump's health.

That Kayleigh bitch (what a dumb fucking name) at R256’s clip is a total spin machine and did not have one accurate truth come out of her mouth during tha entire segment.

But, who is this Kendis Burke person? I don’t watch CNN so I guess I’m surprised at the amateur level of moderating going on there. He could not even string a sentence together. He was also doing these weird poses after asking a question. David Corn saved the segment.

This Kayleigh bitch, and the tongue tied anchor is from MSNBC, not CNN.

I thought we got rid of her after the 2016 election. She’s back, dumber than ever...

r256 video. I see MSNBC using more frequently now, Trump yappers to do the "both sides" routines. McEnany used to yap for CNN who has done this "both sides" crap for a long time.

I don't mind hearing Republican (and Democratic) House and Senate members, Cabinet officials, and Governors, that are pressed by anchors and reporters to extract straight answers for pertinent questions. But people who are just paid party and campaign operative yappers, not journalists or related experts such as former judges, prosecutors, or investigators; add no substance to the matters at hand.

Infotainment has run amuck.

I think the Dems need to start holding people in contempt of congress. The Sargent of Arms along with the fully functional Capital Hill Police force can enforce the the contempt citations and start arresting people. They don't have to put them in jail but can erect some chain-link fencing with a thin mattress on the floor and a plastic blanket in the capital basement. Kirsten Nielsen has some free time. She can show them how to detain them.

Graduates protest Pence.

So, was Sarah raised eating Armadillos? It may be fattening.

R235 If that photo of Paul Pelosi with a smiling Ivanka Trump is for real-which it looks to be- that is not a good look. It just isn't. Ms. Pelosi has some 'splainin' to do. First, she can ask the son then she can explain to those of us who want to know why the foot dragging on impeachment. I agree with Seth Abramson, Laurence Tribe, Jill Wine Banks Asha Rangappa Elizabeth Warren Kamala Harris and too many other respected legal minds that impeachment inquiry must be started NOW!. Not impeachment-just the impeachment inquiry and hearing. The fucking country is onfire and some people are fiddling while it burns. The hearings with all the evidence and more would most likely change some minds. And besides that, it is the right thing to do. To hold a lawless President and DOJ and most of the fuckers cabinet accountable to us THE People of the US is right. I appreciate Nancy and Nadler and their "long game" but give me the courage of people like Elizabeth Warren and others.

You want people to justify going to a Trump party?

Go fuck yourself.

R68, Apparently projecting gravitas isn't the same as having it.

Mueller, knowing he wasn't going to recommend indicting Trump (adhering to a non-existent DoJ "rule"), nonetheless used the criminal court standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt" instead of the civil trial standard of "preponderance of evidence" as his approach to the facts, testimonies, tapes, etc.

In short, Mueller punked out the day he was appointed.

Trump’s so jealous of Mayor Pete’s appearance on Fox News he’s now attacking Fox News. And Brit Hume has snapped back at Trump. This won’t end well.

Wow, Trumps girlfriend has a GBF.

Trump made some ridiculous threat to Iran on Twitter. Will no one save our country from this insanity?

When Mueller is in the bath...maybe his housekeeper could throw in the hairdryer?

Mueller, R271? What the fuck?

Suspect many blocked it long ago, R272

R54 I believe The Senatrice was "the congressman" in question.

I hope the Democrats do something today regarding the missed IRS/Mnuchin deadline from 5 PM Friday

Oh, Lindsey. No BernBro here. But where's your own accountability when it comes to Russia? What have you been doing to stop Russian interference in U S. elections? You facilitate it. And you are impeding full disclosures per the Muller Report and pushing this absurd investigate the investigators to deflect from Trump and your own oligarch cash cow.

No I don't, Lindsey. But that doesn't mean Trump isn't making a mess of it. Sashay away from the cable media cameras with your prolific fawning over Trump, and get your butt down to South Carolina and speak with farmers, consumers, etc., and try to help fix at least one damn thing in this most troubled state.

Bernie Sanders is spending more time in South Carolina than Senator Graham.

AP: AP FACT CHECK: Trump cries 'treason' over campaign scrutiny

Trump keeps projecting his misdeeds. When he cries "treason", he's only self-incriminating. Don't impeach now, but organize the televised hearings to consider it!

At this point there should be some sort of law that everything a conservative accuses his opposition of counts as admission of committing said offense.

Has he never heard of Miranda rights? Seriously, everything he's saying can and will be used against him.

Politico: Mitch McConnell embraces his dark side

You know it's no longer funny when they are in on the joke and embrace it for their own merch and image branding. At least we still got this.

Trump is not well.

These are the top six corporations who donate a lot of money to the politicians who financially support these strick abortion laws.

AT&T

Walmart

Pfizer

Eli Lilly

Coca Cola

Aetna

Trump is a clear and present danger to the the safety and security of our country. How he hasn’t been removed from office by now represents a serious failure in our current system of government. He is fucking out of control and it’s getting worse every day.

Why is there no liberal version of the Deplorables who bang at the White House to get this fucker out? You'd think the media would give them equal time to be heard like the Deplorables, because their opinions matter, too! Guess us Liberals are really better and more restrained than these losers.

When he starts a war, real 20-year olds are going to die and he nor the republicans give a shit. Plus, a whole lot of innocent Iranian civilians are going to die. People are literally going to die because of his ego. And since he lacks even an iota of empathy, compassion or sympathy, the troops coming home in flagged draped coffins is going to be a horrible image for him.

[quote]Mitch McConnell embraces his dark side

He has a light side?

From David Frum:

Millennials will not go to war for Trump. The shit will hit the fan if he declares war and thinks Fox News will provide the cannon fodder for him making kids join the army to fight for his war. Millennials don't watch Fox News. Millennials will start the biggest rallies the country has ever seen in order to not fight for Trump and the GOP. They will start the civil disobedience movement.

Monday morning warmongering as a deflection?

"Strick" abortion laws, R286?

Oh, dear.

A good economy is their worst nightmare. No one signs up for military service if they have a job.

What if the military service in questions pays a lot more, R295, than the cheap-ass jobs this economy is offering? And gives you a chance to shoot foreigners?

Focus more on McTurtle.

Pence & Mother hugging

[quote]Millennials will start the biggest rallies the country has ever seen in order to not fight for Trump and the GOP.

No, they won't.

R297 I've been saying that. Democratic strategists don't focus enough on Trump. I'm willing to bet a lot more casual repub voters know who Pelosi is than casual Democratic voters even though they've been had very prominent roles for many years now. In election years, repubs always put Pelosi in their attack ads even in Presidential years. Democrats rarely go after McConnell.

lol oops obviously meant to say "Democratic strategists don't focus enough on McConnell" not Trump

[quote]Pence & Mother hugging

Get a room!

Just saw Sweden plans to detain Assange for rape

that bitch is gonna have to talk

Trump and Bolton can't start a "boots on the ground" war when the unemployment rate is at a 50-year low. All they can do is mass aerial bombardment.

And even young fast-food fat, or undernourished meth-addled, Deplorables aren't gonna stand for a draft to fight a war against 80 million people.

That attention ho Miss Lindzey has nothing on me.

A judge just upheld the subpoena for Trump’s tax returns from the Treasury Department.

Guuuurl!

Shit is getting good!

Washington Post: Cohen told lawmakers Trump attorney Jay Sekulow instructed him to falsely claim Moscow project ended in January 2016

NYT: Trump Instructs McGahn to Defy Subpoena and Skip House Testimony

R306, Trump will appeal, but you can see him defying even court orders that are upheld on appeal. Is it going to be the Legislature and the Judiciary against the Executive?

Politico: Some Republicans unsettled by Trump’s sweeping claims of immunity

Trump has to show the receipts ! Lol … 2020 is gonna be interesting AF.

Trump is honestly making himself hella impeachable. Even if the Dems. don't pull the lever, they will after he leaves office.

AP: Judge rules against Trump in records dispute with Congress

r310....the judge said it has to be enforced...appeal or not, and he will not issue a stay in order for them to delay longer pending an appeal.

I believe that he can also ask the appellate court for a stay, R314. That’s a tough ask, but he’ll try.

The Appellate Chief Judge is .....wait for it.....MERRICK GARLAND.

Judge Mehta is the hero of the day--I like him trolling Trump by citing Buchanan's bitching about Congress harrassing him.

omg I love you Garland. At least he can have an important role now. FUCK YOU McCONNELL

r317.

Activist judges, activist judges!

Why hasn’t the impeachment process started? Dems are just as calculating as Repubs and that promotes the impression that it’s all just a political game. They need to go ahead and do the right thing. Trump is a dangerous ignorant corrupt con man who must be removed before he can do irreversible harm to the country and the world. Once all the information gets aired in public, even Senators may eventually see the need. After all, they still get Pence.

Impeach. Now. There's not a choice anymore. If it doesn't happen, Trump, McConnell, and Barr control the narrative, and Democrats will look weak and spineless.

If the Republican controlled Senate refuses to convict, that's their legacy and they are on record. History will not be forgiving for the crimes they condoned.

Congressional Dems need to start doing two things yesterday: breaking kneecaps, and finding competitive challengers for the Senate.

Several of these Presidential candidates need to be be running for the Senate instead. This includes Beto.

[quote]Several of these Presidential candidates need to be be running for the Senate instead. This includes Beto.

Yep. And somebody needs to drill this into them immediately.

R325 Most of them know very well their chances are slim. Let them gain some national name recognition. It may be useful in their future bids.

Don McGahn and Mueller, two low life, lying Republicans. They should go to prison. They refuse to talk to Congress about the scumbag, Trump.

Ironic, the one that comes clean, after earlier deception, is the one that gets locked up.

But they all kiss Junior's ass. Lindsey went much further.

Michael Cohen

Politico: Pelosi clashes with fellow Dems in closed-door debate on impeachment

[quote]Why hasn’t the impeachment process started? Dems are just as calculating as Repubs and that promotes the impression that it’s all just a political game. They need to go ahead and do the right thing. Trump is a dangerous ignorant corrupt con man who must be removed before he can do irreversible harm to the country and the world.

When someone tells you who they are believe them, the first time.

Nancy was never about impeachment before she even got elected.

Months later and she's still not about impeachment.

I sometimes think these people live in a bubble and have no clue what's really going on in the world around them. They just look like idiots making threats and doing nothing. A harshly worded letter there. A tweet here. A mention of their "concern." The Republicans do not care. They will walk all over them and keep on going.

NYT: Trump’s Demands for Investigations of Opponents Draw Intensifying Criticism

The divisive impeachment trolls are back. Trust Nancy. She knows what she is doing.

[quote]The divisive impeachment trolls are back. Trust Nancy. She knows what she is doing.

Being concerned that she doesn't have a grasp of this isn't "trolling" especially when the people who work with her every day are starting to have the same concerns and that concern is being mentioned to the press.

R330 Nancy is fighting a losing battle. There is just so much evidence of impeachable offenses that she would end up looking like she's defending Trump by not impeaching.

For the last fucking time morons- she is playing the game. She does not and has never believed impeachment is off the table. She is playing the media game. She is the leader of the Dems. She needs this to be seen as the last resort MEANWHILE all this shit is coming out daily. He is getting hammered. Yes, he is lashing out crazily but we ALL knew this would happen. We've all said things would get MUCH worse before better. Welcome to much worse (and we probably haven't hit bottom). She is savvy as hell. Once she drops the hammer, all the news footage will be of her being reasonable, fair, waiting for information to come out, and she will look GOLDEN and be in a very strong position.

Dems must put Trump, Barr, McConnell, etc. on defense, and not allow their offensive tactics to take hold. What they protest and defy most, is where I hey ar most vulnerable.

Muller and McGhan need to testify now. Mueller is not royalty or saintly. He was hired to do a competent job He needs to elaborate on his findings and answer lingering questions. It should not be a choice.

Trust Nancy. She knows what she is doing.

Others agree.

Jonathan Turley -- Democrats are running out of stunts to pull from impeachment playbook

Americans lose interest over the course of a 30 second commercial.........

R338 #1. That article you cite is an opinion piece and #2. Jonathon Turley is fairly conservative and appears on Fox often. Buh bye Felicia.

Nancy is dead wrong here. She is more about power and holding it than doing the right thing and holding this low life criminal family accountable. There is more than enough for the Democrats to start impeachment hearings. I trust her to an extent but there are others I trust even more.

r340 She is going for him don't worry.

Money laundering is just the latest-holy shit. In the end, he will kill someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue before this congress does squat. Watched Nicole Wallace and John Heilerman was on fire as were David Jolly and Karin Ste. Pierre. And Jill W. Banks and they were all calling for impeachment hearings. They totally disagreed with Nancy and gave very valid reasons which for me Nancy does not. I know it's on the table and maybe some posters are right. I hope they are and that maybe Nancy is just playing with Numb Nuts Donny like a cat plays with a mouse. I mean more subpoenas etc. are coming at tubby like incoming missiles-surely he'll break sooner rather than later.

R340 I had hoped since this is the pinnacle of her career (and at her age, the end as well), she would take her leadership role beyond the competent manager level to lead the charge at this critical time in history. But it seems she can scold but not bite. Even fat ass Barr was laughing at her expense, and she could do nothing.

Do not confuse not tipping her hand with doing nothing.

R344 And when will she show her hand? After 2020?

FCI...

Any word from the Hill about Nancy and her game plan?

Her voting block is losing faith fast.

Round Billy is keeping Mueller from talking to Congress. He is still a DOJ employee and won't be able to testify until he leaves at the end of the month.

So STFU about Mueller. Bitch about the bloated toadie, Barr. HE is preventing Mueller from talking

r344 Thank you! Exactly.

All those people mentioned at r342 have a job to do and they are doing it. They all know WHY Nancy is doing it the way she is but it is their job to spell it out to us.

r345 See, Dems don't play the long game like the GOP. If the House messes this up with some hasty shit, it really is done.

r346 Actually, I have been actively posting tonight. Although I am a bit frustrated and not doing my best. Yes, there is a plan and of course I don't know it. LOL. Those who are in the know, tell me to rest assured, many great minds are working on various angles. They are up against a tremendous amount of shit starting with the media not exactly playing this the way they should. The media wants the Dems to make the case and not do their job and present the case as is. The Russians are still working social media and conservative media is working overtime with Russia. There are some rough waters to navigate but there is a plan and these are whip smart people. We've got this we must be patient ( I know it sucks) but we have to.

I don't trust Nancy. Not after what she did the last time. It's clear that she's going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming into any impeachment inquiry, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually have to happen.

With Bush, I could understand Nancy not wanting pursue impeachment because that group was actually smart about their evilness and law breaking but everything now is blatant and obvious.

so Lindsey Graham had dinner the other day with Trump, Hannity and 1 of Fox's newer nutjobs, the creepy looking Mark Levin.

let this sink in. The president and a senator having dinner with 2 hosts on a so-called news channel. No wonder their talking points are all so in sync

R351, that article is from August 2018.

R352 weird. that was at the top of a twitter search i just did. I didn't look at the date when i clicked on it. Not sure why it was there

but still let that sink in how corrupt that is

and Mark Levin is a fucking lunatic

Levin would have run the ovens at Buchenwald if given the opportunity.

The Democratic Party, especially the Dem representatives in the House, need to be a united front and on the same page. Showing signs of weakness and infighting would be really bad optics right now. And it's all about optics these days with the general public.

Nancy Pelosi might play the long game and it's makes very much sense on paper / in theory, but in practice it does not get the general public exited. We live in an instant gratification society where "Impeachement NOW!" is a thing and a "cooler heads will prevail" is boooooooring!

Know your audience. I know Nancy's approach is a sound one, but she needs to sell it to the public which wants someone to not just stand up to Trump but some sassy superhero chick, like in the superhero blockbusters, standing up to the bad guys. Some extreme ones even want Nancy to deliver them Trump's head on a silver platter and Nancy said quite clear that she's not the one who is going for that.

Nancy needs a good PR team playing Trump's optics game on the Liberal side. Like when she and Chuck Schumer pulled one over Trump in that surprise televised interaction.

Sorry if that makes me a divisive troll.

We need more cool, red coated Nancy!

I think by nature Democrats aren't primarily a "follow the leader" kind of group. That doesn't mean that we can't or outright won't, it just means that we pay attention, weigh and measure.

We question our leaders, we question people in power, we wonder if they're doing a good enough job because we have the ability to and because generally they do listen.

I think when you're a leader in the Democratic party you have to expect that and that is what makes us wonderful because through that process we get real progress forward.

We're not like the Republicans and their voters who blindly follow their President's lead without question. We don't believe everything that we're fed. We don't put party over country. We "read" the articles.

While I understand we don't want to appear to be "divisive" I think the divisiveness is a symptom of a different problem and R355 gave a great explanation of one aspect of it.

Nancy's doing the smart thing. She's doing the "no, no impeachment is IMPOSSIBLE, it's too extreme...." while other Democrats call for it so as to make it look like the party is so torn about the idea because they don't want to look like it's a partisan 'witch hunt'. If Democrats appear divided, then it makes the issue look more objective.

Meanwhile, day by day, Trump gets the stuffing knocked out of him- either a judge rules against him or a GOP in Congress calls him out or another Republican says he'll vote for Weld.....it's all a constant drip, drip, drip that keeps building and building.

Nancy will pull the trigger once there are enough people ignoring subpoenas and more leaks get added to the pile.

The timeframe will probably end up being the same timeframe that it took to get rid of Nixon. Maybe less, since he was a lot smarter than Trump.

if more people followed the news nothing would be a problem. Too many don't though which is why Trump, repub and Fox lies/tricks still work. The Democrats need to do better on messaging. It's too nuanced for casual news followers and idiots to follow

[quote]so Lindsey Graham had dinner the other day with Trump, Hannity and 1 of Fox's newer nutjobs, the creepy looking Mark Levin.

Imagine the spectacular glow on her face as she left.

I hope the Dems come up with their own MAGA branding. Like MAHA (Make America Honest Again), or MADA (Make America Dignified / Decent Again).

Nearly two out of three voters say Democrats should not initiate impeachment proceedings against President Trump and a majority say it’s time to turn the page on the Russia investigation, according to a new poll.

The latest Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey found that 65 percent of respondents oppose impeachment proceedings. A majority of Democrats polled, 56 percent, support impeachment, however, only 32 percent of independents and 14 percent of Republicans are in favor.

A majority of respondents, 58 percent, said it’s time to turn the page on the Russia investigations, including 60 percent of independents, although two-thirds of Democrats want to see further investigations.

Impeachment ranks fourth on the list of priorities voters have for the Democratic-controlled House, behind addressing the status of immigrants in the country illegally, stimulating the economy and strengthening ObamaCare.

“It seems that impeachment is over as a real threat to the Trump presidency though the base of the Democratic Party remains energized on the issue,” said Harvard CAPS/Harris polling director Mark Penn. “Overall though, the voters want Democrats to get back to issues over investigations and they may pay a price for not listening to them.”

Why post things from The Hill, R361? Why not just go straight to Fox News?

Rollie Pollie Barr needs to go first. What's he done that's not trying to establish a Trump autocracy?

R361 The poll is useless because they are affected by the fact Barr has suppressed the finding of the Mueller Report and deceived people with his "summary". This is why Trump won't let the House get their hearing with Mueller because that will undo the gaslighting by Barr.

Nancy knows exactly what she's doing. Enough stuff is coming out that eventually he will be forced into resignation. Nixon was given the option of resigning or being impeached. If impeachment is already started then there is nothing to hold over Trump's head to get him to resign. This is what she is waiting for. If she does impeachment it will make his base crazy and God only knows what they will do. They are all armed, remember? If he resigns then the base has nothing to stand on. He HAS to go in a way that is acceptable for everyone not just those of us that are so angry with him we just want him gone.

[quote]Mark Penn

All I needed to know.

[quote] If she does impeachment it will make his base crazy and God only knows what they will do. They are all armed, remember?

So why do anything if it gets the Deplorables so mad that they use their guns? Why even bother to vote when the Deplorables may wait at the voting stations with their guns? Why even post on this thread when maybe some local Deplorables will bang at my door later? Why even start a rally when some Deplorable will drive into it?

This "let's not make the Deplorables mad!" bullshit needs to end at some point. Don't you agree?

R365 Then Pelosi should really do more to get "whatever stuff" to come out. Too bad this "whatever" is so vague and nebulous, and Trump has already shown how he has all of the executive branch and the GOP obstructing justice for him. Meanwhile, Pelosi has shown zero effectiveness in breaking through that wall much less find the "smoking gun". She's got to give the people some result ASAP. Unlike the deplorables, Dems don't believe someone on blind faith.

r367 because why do something that will have a violent end when if one just waited it could end peacefully.

r369, Sure, I fully expect Trump to leave the White House peacefully and the Deplorables just move on. Because as the past has shown us Trump and the Deplorables know when it's time to go and pack their bags.

R369 To think Trump would leave peacefully is wishful thinking. They are addicted to "winning" so why would they go peacefully. There is no one they won't corrupt and no law they won't break to stay in power. You only resign when you hit bottom and these people have no bottom. You would have better luck wishing for lightning to strike him down.

they are hanging themselves. did you see where Alabama Public tv is refusing to air the Arthur episode of where Mr. Ratburn marries his same-sex partner? the entire R party is going to go down. We don't want to interrupt the process so only half goes down, the whole party needs to go. It will then be replaced with another party that is what the R's used to be like.

I know it's hard, I hate it as much as everyone else but it HAS to play itself out.

America let a cheater into the election. America let a cheater in the WH. That cheater will continue to cheat justice to stay in the WH, and he will cheat in the next election. That is the whole plot of the Trump saga. The only way to stop a cheater is complete exposure and to achieve that, the House needs to impeach.

[quote]Nearly two out of three voters say Democrats should not initiate impeachment proceedings against President Trump and a majority say it’s time to turn the page on the Russia investigation, according to a new poll.

Piece of advice when you see this or any "poll":

Go to the source of the poll.

See what the sample size was.

See how the poll's information was acquired.

See what questions were really asked.

In the article it states:

[quote]The Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll online survey of 1,536 registered voters was conducted from April 30 to May 1. The sample size is made up of 37 percent Democrats, 32 percent Republicans and 29 percent independents.

And going to their website we learn a bit more from the Harvard CAPS pdf. So they asked +/- 568 Democrats they found online, "Do you think that, for his actions, President Trump should be impeached and removed from office, censured by Congress, or no action should be taken?"

And upon looking at their other questions on their website PDFs from last month, assuming they asked all the same questions, they're all clearly biased.

you can't impeach without some Republicans and right now there is only one.

Trump will be gone before the end of the year.

Correction: the House can impeach without any Republicans at all, since the Democrats hold a majority. The Senate, which has more Republicans, would probably vote against conviction. The sticking point is whether impeachment by the House followed by exoneration by the Senate would hurt the Democrats, by making Trump look vindicated, or help the Democrats, by bringing out all Trump's dirt and making the Senate Republicans look corrupt.

The impeachment concept is not necessarily to actually impeach DT it is to get the investigations and witnesses coming forth to overcome the stonewalling. That's my read. The Administration is trying to force the D's hand by stonewalling. They think impeachment will benefit them.

R377 I agree. Start impeachment hearings. Use the power of impeachment to bring all the witnesses and let them all publicly testify. Get all his financial information out in public as well. Hours upon hours of hearing how corrupt Trump and his clan are will slowly start to penetrate the masses. Let the House vote to impeach. If the Senate doesn't convict, it will make them look even more guilty in the cover-up and certainly won't help their re-election chances.

R378

LOCK HER UP!

Graham gets another big fat government check for being a Colonel in the Army Reserve. That's collecting a lot of money for doing little to nothing.

With such high rank and pay, assign him to lead the on ground march from Baghdad to Tehran. Give him some foreign combat experience for the first time.

That doesn't count, she a republican. Ivanka has been using her private emails as well but nobody is complaining.

This is not going to end peacefully. My brother in law has always been an asshole but now he is seething with rage since he started watching Fox News. I used to be able to at least be cordial with him but not now. I can only imagine how many more there are like him. He does not think there is anything to the Russia involvement since no American got indicted. I am also getting impatient with Pelosi.

Reuters: Rebuffed by Trump, House panel to meet with or without ex-White House lawyer

Lock her up!

Conservatives disgust me. They are unimaginative, violent, cheating dullards lacking in any sense of irony.

Pro-life, anti-women and people of color, pro-guns, pro bombing adversaries (Iraq, Iran etc) into smithereens while killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the process. Currently, and surprisingly, followers of dictators and authoritarians.

Anti earth, innovation, imagination (except for selfish purposes), civil rights. They are ruining our beautiful earth and unable to make anything meaningful great again.

Just knowing that those assholes will have to live with their humiliation and defeat is enough for me.

....

R361 I see that others have already schooled you on Mark Penn. Penn is a well known piece of shit. A former Clinton loyalist he is now with Trump-in fact he visited Trump to offer help on March 1 2019.

I don't know if you are the same half wit that keeps bringing articles from The Hill here, but for many of us who know those articles are without meaning or value. The Hill is slightly less biased than when that doofus John Soloman was running it but still leans farther right than anything I will take seriously. If it's you-you are a persistent little carbuncle.

They need Togo busy with impeachment hearings. What is with Nancy? Is she secretly on Trumps side?

If Mueller and McGahn will not come in? Put them in jail.

A little too close for comfort, Putie!

R391 Will tRump be radio silent on this? Or will he tweet his outrage at this threat to our national security?

What do you think, R392?

Barr none.

[quote]Rollie Pollie Barr needs to go first. What's he done that's not trying to establish a Trump autocracy?

It would be much more fun to annihilate McConnell first.

Then watching piggy shit his pants.

Jesus Christ!

R394! WTF man!? I just lost my lunch.

Awe shit! Trump expected to appoint colossal Repug scumbag and former Virginia AG, Ken Cuccinelli to top immigration position. This guy is a immigration hardliner. Trump got Steven Miller‘s blessing on this. Truthfully, if it weren’t for Cuccinelli’s shitty politics, I would do him.

Washington Post: Mueller and House Democrats at impasse over how much of his testimony would be public

R398 - he says the most stupid things on CNN. One bonus: maybe we won't have to see his face very much anymore.

Reuters: As ex-White House counsel defies subpoena, U.S. House Democrats weigh response

Can House Democrats freeze the assets of anyone refusing to honor a subpoena? Once they start losing their homes because they can't pay their mortgage, that would change their minds.

ABC: Trump expected to name Ken Cuccinelli to immigration 'czar' role

Ken Cuccinelli is a cruel man. I know him from No Va politics. Even the people who helped elect him - hated him. But they feared him too.

R398 - I can't stand this man and his creepy smile. He's often on CNN talking his bullshit. I guess he was auditioning for a role in the trump administration. I don't believe he knows anything about immigration but ignorance often is the most appealing qualification for a job with the Orange Menace.

r404, then he is trump's kind of guy.

I'm not sure why it is such a surprise that tRump is appointing a grotesque thing to a post.

Gosh i hope there is a bright spot this week!

the good thing about Cuccinelli joining the Trump admin is that his reputation will surely be tarnished beyond repair.

^^^^^^^ To quote the never Trumper Republican Rick Wilson, “everything Trump touches dies”.

Trump always nominates the worst person he could find for any position in his cabinet. He does it because Putin tells him too. What ever is bad for America, Putin wants it done.

NYT: Democratic Calls for Impeachment Inquiry Grow as Leaders Instead Vow to Toughen Tactics

^^^^^^^^^^^ And speaking of one of the worst persons you could appoint to a Cabinet position, today, Ben Carson gives you this display of profound incompetence during a Congressional hearing.

I love our new Congresswoman Katie Porter. She knows her stuff on the subject, while Dr. Carson is his nearly comatose self. Mind boggling

The House Judiciary Committee issues subpoenas to Hope Hicks and Annie Donaldson. Let's see if they try to ignore the subpoenas too.

Rex Tillerson testifying before the House Foreign Affairs committee re: Trump. Tee Hee. And in case anyone has forgotten I believe Rex referred to Numb Nuts Donald as a "fucking moron". Am I wrong to believe things are starting to roll? I have started to understand Pelosi on impeachment. She is going slowly because the Senate will never vote to convict-which might or might not benefit the Criminal in Chief. But she is playing a long game and Trump and his lame ass advisors are practically begging the Democrats to impeach fat ass. What will happen? I don't know but I still have faith in our semi democracy and our sort of rule of law-unfair though it is at times.

I know I sound naive, but can McGahn be arrested? And anyone else who ignores the subpoena's ? None of these people seem to care if they are in contempt.

When people refuse to appear befor the Judiciary Committee, Jerry Nadler needs to not only hold them in contempt, but continue with the hearing and read aloud into the record their testimony to Mueller....on live tv....force them into testifying one way or another.

R417 I DEMAND!!! you #RunForSomething. We need people like you.

WW for R417!!!! We need to take his brilliant idea and send it up the flagpole until someone listens.

so now Mueller's team is unsure if he should testify publicly because "it could appear political" come the fuck on no matter what Mueller says if it's negative about Trump, Trump, Fox and repubs will all say it's political. JUST FUCKING DO IT

Did anybody check him for a pulse, r413?

^^^^^^^

Lol!

To keep his ass awake, Carson needs to be strapped to a low voltage, intermittent-burst taser.

Mueller is a cowardly asshole...our democracy is at risk because of a piece of filth, yet Muellowlife.s back. What a lowlife.

HuffPost: Senate Advances Trump Court Pick Who Fought Marriage Equality For Years

The double jeopardy loophole has just been closed in NY, opening the way for the state to investigate the shit out of Trump and his crime family.

God bless New York.

Why are good people having to fight for every step forward? We have a criminal piece of sewage in the White House and Republicans want to keep him there! So disgusting. Criminals and racist pigs are in charge of our government. Frankly, I think we should be in a civil war. No good person to copy the full Mueller Report. No good person to copy Trumps tax returns and no good person to go into the White House and start shooting. It. Is a very sad day for our country.

well keep in mind Trump likely has committed numerous crimes in Florida too but we'll never know since it's a repub controlled state. So I'm thrilled about NY but Florida could also have given us a lot to work with

that's the thing. Trump is very lucky that there are A) people as disgusting as him who want to keep him in power and B( principled good people who want justice but also are too afraid to break norms and appear partisan themselves

R289, NS, S.

[quote] but continue with the hearing and read aloud into the record their testimony to Mueller

They already did that.. I can't see it accomplished anything.

Democrats read Mueller report aloud in U.S. Capitol hearing room

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday held a marathon reading of the redacted version of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s 448-page assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The reading began at noon EDT (1700 GMT) and was expected to take 12 to 14 hours. For those who could not make it to the Capitol hearing room to listen, it was being broadcast on C-SPAN and lawmakers plan to release a podcast version.Representative Mary Gay Scanlon, one of the top Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee, started the reading and nearly two dozen of her colleagues were to take part.

Web of DJT's ties to casinos.

[quote]No good person to copy the full Mueller Report. No good person to copy Trumps tax returns and no good person to go into the White House and start shooting.

You volunteering r427?

R427- We're not lucky enough to have a "Deep Throat" or a John Dean. Watergate took a long time too- the break-in happened in 1972 and Nixon wasn't forced to resign until 1974.

Drumming up war talk. Even Lindsey's Republican colleagues are largely avoiding this messaging.

Does this make Lindsey macho?

He still has his Brettttt photo in his Twitter page? How embarrassing and not all AT a naked, partisan display........

R350, Dubya's bombing of a non-combatant sovereign nation ("having weaponry" is not justifiable cause) is an impeachable war crime.

Pelosi was wrong then. Perhaps she will be shown to be wrong now.

Miss seeing Richard Painter on TV. He is outspoken as ever. Bring him back.

r431....they had a "reading"....it was not entered into the congressional records. The point being, when say, Don McGahn refuses to show up, Nadler continues the hearing and starts reading McGahns testimony...which is under oath and public record. As Chairman, Nadler doesnt have time constraints, and as Chairman, the republicans cant shut him down. Imagine someone at home watching and being appalled at the lies and corrupt behavior, and the republicans trying to defend it. It will send a clear message to the American people. Nobody watches Cspan to realize the report was read out loud, let alone spend 14 hours watching it....BUT, people do watch televised hearings, and they would be able to put the info out in small increments...such as McGahns testimony, that people will recognize it for what it is.

R438 where has he been?

Taxes & Trump - just released info.

R441 so the IRS wants to hand it over but Mnuchin is blocking them?

Spill it, Tillerson:

[quote]The latest Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey found that 65 percent of respondents oppose impeachment proceedings. A majority of Democrats polled, 56 percent, support impeachment, however, only 32 percent of independents and 14 percent of Republicans are in favor.

Someone is going to have to explain this Repug math to me.

[quote]A majority of respondents, 58 percent, said it’s time to turn the page on the Russia investigations, including 60 percent of independents, although two-thirds of Democrats want to see further investigations.

I think it's time to turn the page on the Russia investigations. It needs to be turned to Trump's trial and removal from office and jailing for crimes against the United States.

Anyone who cites The Hill as a source is a troll.

R442 It is the IRS attorney saying the tax returns must be released to the Congressional Committee. Rachel Maddow is discussing it.

Early in the day, stories were written saying "Mueller's team" did not want him to testify in front of the cameras. Now there's a question as to whether it's really Barr and the DOJ who are trying to stop him from testifying in public.

R446, what I saw was a report that people on Mueller's team were saying he was hesitant because he didn't want to be seen as political.

Sorry but at this point, the simple truth has been politicized because the Repugs are treasonous scum. He needs to stand up and say "Here is the truth. The truth is not political. Trump is a criminal."

Bill Maher was dead right when he called out Mueller. "Just because you have a stone face doesn't mean you belong on Mt. Rushmore". Mueller punted on so much of his report and he allowed his "friend" Fatso Barr to misrepresent the report and for Trump and his people like Guiliani and Hannity to daily take a dump on his, ie. Mueller's reputation. Well, he is a big nasty butt weasel as bad as Rosenstein. I hope I can be proven wrong about Mueller but I think he's an ass.

This is war and when we are at war, good people should break the law and do what is right. If you have to give your life, you do it.

"Political" is discussing investigating Hillary's emails while keeping mum on the simultaneous deserved investigation into Trump's Russian contacts.

Mueller is being disingenuous, if "political" is his alleged concern.

I've sent a red alert text to my contacts in DC about Mueller. I am getting a bit worried he is worried about testifying in public. He wrote the report and should answer questions about it. Let us decide what we think about his answers.

Everyone got mad when I posted this before BUT....

Republican Mueller is not going to bring down a Republican President or Republican Senate.

Russia or no Russian. Obstruction or no obstruction.

We're going to have to do this ourselves next November.

Pelosi is feckless.

Watch this if you can. It's showing tonight on PBS. Frontline: Supreme Revenge, all about how Scum Mitch McConnell vowed to get revenge after his Supreme Court pick was rejected by Democrats during the Reagan presidency 30 YEARS AGO. Ever since he has been skewing the courts right wing in an effort to curtail our rights, benefit the rich and greedy, all against the express wishes of the American citizenry.

Also on Rachel Maddow tonight she talked about how trump is stocking the IRS full of his cronies to block access to his finances. Many other posts go empty while he put his attention to the IRS and protecting himself. Vacancies include heads of Departments of Defense, Homeland Security, and Department of Interior, FEMA, and Secret Service. But the IRS? Stocked with trump allies.

Trump and McConnell are evil. McConnell found his perfect match in trump. Together they will bring down America, and we must stop them.

Impeach NOW, Trump, McConnell, and Barr. They all have to go.

r452 Nancy is not feckless and knows what she is doing. Impeachment is stupid right now. Let this build and build and build.

We’re running out of goddamn time, R454, don’t you fucking get it?

The Senate likely will not vote to impeach but it's necessary to impeach him anyway because it belongs on his disgusting resume. He needs to go down in history as besmirched as possible. Donald Shit Stain Trump, most disgusting "president" in US history.

r455 Yes and we have to do this right. The job of the candidates and pundits is to call for impeachment and what not. Then a growing number of Dems will call for impeachment. Maybe peal off a few more Republicans when more dirt comes out. TRUST Nancy. She has this planned out. Shoot our wad too soon and that opportunity is gone for good.

I'm all for the House Democrats building the case. The problem is it's impossible to build the case if no one testifies at hearings. We need the witnesses and Mueller to provide damning testimonies because most of the country did not read the Mueller report.

Unfortunately I saw an interview earlier today with a prosecutor who has worked with Mueller. He said he's not surprised about Mueller's reservations because he doesn't want to appear political and also he's not trying a case so he might just say "it's all in the report". He's not sure even if Mueller testifies that it will be explosive as Democrats in the House wish. Mueller might not give his opinions outside of what was written in his report since that's the protocol.

The pundits will do nothing. They are only interested in ratings There are no heroes in the Television establishment and few if any in the newspapers either. We have to raise support among the people or we don't have a chance. Mueller, all the people we believed in. Yeah, right. If nonone will show up for hearings, and basically the Congress has no authority to put these people in jail? THere is essentially nor recourse. They have to impeach him. I hope there are hearings to get the info they need but I don 't understand exactly ohow that works. But their refusal to cooperate in any way? What else can Congress do but tart hearings? the definition of dObstruction of Justice they have already publicly done?

R458 It's not just about the report anymore. Mueller can confirm how the investigation was ended (many think prematurely) by Barr and how Barr misrepresented the Report to Congress and the public! Getting rid of Barr is very important to precede with any meaningful Congressional investigations.

If the Democrats declare this an impeachment investigation, I read that it immediately turns the Judiciary committee into a Grand Jury. At that point, the subpoenas become Grand Jury subpoenas, enforceable as such. They don't need to actually impeach him, but they need to make these investigations officially impeachment investigations. I think that is where they are headed and they are doing so methodically so everything holds up when challenged. I want them to hurry but, more importantly, I want them to do it right.

R453 Thanks for suggesting that program. I had not seen anything about. Will watch as soon as I can.

r461 If any of these criminals would follow the law. They have orders from Putin or, it seems, bad shit will happen to them. They are scared for their lives or are the most sociopathic demons we haven't seen since Nazi Germany.

[quote]The Senate likely will not vote to impeach but it's necessary to impeach him anyway because it belongs on his disgusting resume. He needs to go down in history as besmirched as possible.

Again: House impeaches. Senate convicts.

But it’s not enough to impeach (even with a conviction), it’s not enough that Trump is removed from office, it’s not enough that Trump goes down in history as the worst US President.

It must be established that DONALD J. TRUMP WAS NEVER PRESIDENT. The election was illegitimate.

Our elections were highjacked, our electoral college corrupted, our Republican congress compromised and the person presiding over the USA from the Oval Office was placed there by a foreign enemy.

I can understand why Democrats see the polls that say the public isn't behind impeachment yet and they obviously won't get the Senate onboard---but couldn't they split the difference?

Say, start an impeachment inquiry---get the testimony in public---get as much documentation out to the public as possible. Then, if the public needle moves towards impeachment, great. But if not, couldn't Democrats then pull back and say, well, there's just not enough evidence to support it?

At least the Democrats would appear to be open and above board and they might do enough damage to Trump in the meantime to hobble him going into 2020.

R463, when the Judiciary Committee becomes a Grand Jury looking into impeachment, they move from a legislative body to a criminal court. The penalties of the Judicial system apply instead of the Congressional penalties. They go to jail and, I believe, Barr is removed from the enforcement equation. The federal marshalls will go arrest those who ignore their subpoenas.

Nancy has more meetings tomorrow with leaders pushing to begin impeachment hearings.

R463, I agree but it's more than just Putin, it's insidious evil corruption from within. It's the Republican party itself. I watched the Frontline: Supreme Revenge program tonight and was sickened by the betrayal by McConnell and others beginning in the Reagan era. It's right wingers in our own country who are selling out to billionaires and extreme social conservatives to skew all of our federal courts to the right.

McConnell told Trump he would back him if he chose judges from the Federalist Society's (right wing legal group) list of conservative judges and trump agreed. McConnell was willing to let a friend of Putin into the White House to further his own vengeful ends. Republicans put up with trump because he's doing their bidding to get and keep power.

And now a Russian company with ties to Putin that recently faced sanctions is investing in a plant in Kentucky. Where the coal jobs disappeared the Russians showed up.

Pelosi will hold closed door meeting with Dems Wednesday morning. She'll try again to talk them out of impeachment no doubt.

Nancy is welcome to borrow some of my pins...

Putin took advtange of the GOP's flaws of character. Like their greed.

Just look at the NRA. The moment the Russian money stopped they couldn't adjust and now there's infighting and talk about bankruptcy. Because they can't cope that their deal with Russia has come to an end and the precious money is no longer going into their pockets.

The media would treat the Dems backing down from impeachment investigation and hearings as a win for Trump. Is that really what Nancy Pelosi wants? Does she really want the public to believe that "impeachment is off the table" again and lose another hope that Trump will receive some punishment from his political opposition?

Exactly, r455.

Some people point to the length of the Watergate Hearings. But the break-in occurred June 17, 1972. Hearings began exactly 11 months later, May 17, 1973. Even in the midst of the Vietnam Conflict.

Eleven months. It has been 30 months since the stolen 2016 election.

[quote] It has been 30 months since the stolen 2016 election.

But it is barely 5 months since the Democrats regained power in the House, making the idea of oversight possible for the first time since the 2016 election.

Neither Trump nor Barr would give a rat’s ass than an impeachment without conviction is “on their resume.”

Public opinion can and will change with the visual of the witnesses publicly testifying under oath!

I wish they would do a better job of messaging the report did not clear him, esp. with obstruction. Trump and the GOP continually say how the report had nothing, the Democrats need to do a better job disputing that. There are some pretty damning passages which I suspect many people have not heard.

[quote]Some people point to the length of the Watergate Hearings. But the break-in occurred June 17, 1972. Hearings began exactly 11 months later, May 17, 1973. Even in the midst of the Vietnam Conflict. Eleven months. It has been 30 months since the stolen 2016 election.

It's also not the 70s anymore. Today's technology means we can easily call people on phones from wherever we are, we can print and transmit documents within seconds, we can research electronic copies of nearly anything we'd want to read. We don't need a "library" and one copy of the Mueller report so the public could read it. They can go to any computer and download it. I get the rational of using the Watergate timeline as a test for this but it's much easier to do certain things.

r464, As much as that should be what happens, it never will.

Hey Arya Stark, now that you crossed all the names off your list, might I suggest a new one:

Bill Barr

Steve Mnuchin

Mitch McConnell

Lindsey Graham

Devin Nunes

Donald Trump

Who else...?

Sometimes i think the Dems are intentionally playing "Good Cop/ Bad Cop" at this point. Good cop so that Pelosi as the Leader as thos party ca get away with the " Official Way Things Are Done by Due Process" so the rest of the nation continues to respect the Democrats. Meanwhile the Firebrands and honestly, those I would rather support- play Bad cop, and outright call for Trump's Impeachment /ouster and feverishly dig up whatever fetid, sordid, and ILLEGAL shit they can on Orange Deranged one. It moves the process forward in a Way we hadn't imagined and allows for deniability for Pelosi if any of tje deranged, lunatic Red-State fringe comes unglued.

Trump and the Deplorables WANT Nancy and AOC and Pencil-Neck and the others to impeach him.

He could get a lot of mileage out of it at his rallies.

The question is: should he get what he wants?

Pelosi probably knows impeachment won't go anywhere without Republicans doing their part, which will never happen.

[quote] Trump and the Deplorables WANT Nancy and AOC and Pencil-Neck and the others to impeach him.

[quote] He could get a lot of mileage out of it at his rallies.

He gets a lot of mileage out it either way.

- Look at the partisan Dems and their Witch Hunt!

- Look at the weak Dems who backed off, because I'm Trump! I'm winning!

Why is the OP greyed out?

[quote]Why is the OP greyed out?

Yes, R484. The Democrats are in a no win situation. But, as so many pundits have said, the public was against the impeachment of Richard Nixon UNTIL they started to hear and see the televised proceedings. Although it's all in there, no one is actually reading The Mueller Report.

Reuters: U.S. House panel chief Schiff delays subpoena against Barr after Justice Dept offer

ABC: Under mounting pressure from Dems, Pelosi holds pivotal impeachment meeting

[quote] Although it's all in there, no one is actually reading The Mueller Report.

That's why TELEVISED impeachment hearings and interviews are so fucking important. With Game of Thrones gone let these televised hearings be the next hot "watercooler" topic.

r484 Alt-righters, Russher Putty Poops, the TERFers, & self loathing DLers that luv DJT.

NBC: Trump rails about impeachment in tweetstorm

Nancy: "We believe the President of the United States is engaged in a cover-up" by stonewalling investigations

What does it tell you that the Donald is trying so hard to force discussion and action toward impeachment?

[quote] [R484] Alt-righters, Russher Putty Poops, the TERFers, & self loathing DLers that luv DJT.

The Dems, including Nancy Pelosi, should not base their action on what may benefit Trump (the most). They should base their decisions on why the mid-term voters voted for them and get more voters to trust them to do the right thing and get Trump out of the White House.

Bloomberg: Mnuchin Set for Clash With Waters After IRS Memo on Trump Taxes

When soldier menz return from this drumbeat waarrrr, there will be proper, grateful ladies to be swept from their feet, carried to slumber chambers, and rendered gratifications for their service.

R495. There way a typo, meant for r485. Responding to types that ff the OP. Didn't intend to confuse. Good reply though.

^was, not way

How tRump thinks he can outsmart Putin:

Wow.

tRump obstructs justice on a daily basis right in front of our eyes!

[quote]Why is the OP greyed out?

It happens a lot with OPs of long running, ongoing threads. People (or trolls) FF the thread when they get tired of seeing it so the OP gets grey tagged. Just ignore it. I doubt OP did anything.

Click on the WW to get rid of the grey.

The Watergate timeline is of course the main comparison with this crisis; but this is by magnitudes worse.

Nixon's family and the GOP weren't in the frame for deep corrupt interactions with a vast hostile foreign power. And all we know too well which has come from that.

Point being given the corruption is so wide and embedded, the GOP will dig in as hard as possible. Bringing legal light to bear is obviously no swift simple task.

Nancy's public assertion that The President is involved in a cover-up is no small matter. The sane world knows it was the cover-up which finished Nixon. In this case though, there's those magnitudes more covered up.

The genius in Nancy's assertion about cover up is that Trump and his associates have not established a narrative about that. All they have is "no collusion!".

Trump has called for an impromptu meeting of the press in the Rose Garden. Starting momentarily.

Everyone involved in the cover up, should go to prison.That would include that old criminal, McConnell.

Washington Post: Pelosi says Trump is ‘engaged in a coverup’ but tamps down talk of impeachment

C'mon, Budd Dwyer situation in the Rose Garden.

ABC is reporting that Trump ditched an infrastructure meeting with Pelosi and Schumer and others to hold this Rose Garden presser.

He's running, man. Oh, is he running.

I think once they start taking Trump down there are going to be lots and lots of warrants put out for others. I know there is a number of them now that wish they had never been involved in this mess.

Any yet others, like Barr, are new hires, r512. Don't they see a sinking ship?

Anyone notice how Trump rants have gone from rantings about attacks on him to rantings about attacks on him AND the GOP ?

He feels the noose tightening.

GODDAMN IT I am so completely exhausted of this never-ending soap opera from hell!

r509 that'd be fine if the organ matter were healthy enough to do the roses some good. I suspect the biomatter expelled from a Budd Dwyer moment is contaminated though and could harm the flower bed.

Something must be about to break... trolls are coming out in droves. Many of them are "tired" and "exhausted," and think, "we should all give up."

Why on earth would you include “terfs” in your long list of people who would grey out this thread including Russian bots, Trump fans and Log Cabin gay men? So-called “terfs” stand up for women’s liberation and the rights of gay and lesbians not to be permanently mutilated or sterilized due to TRA and MRA faddism — they are decidedly left-wing and DESPISE Trump.

DOJ is offering to work with Judiciary Committee and provide unredacted material and source documents if they don't hold Barr in contempt. I have a feeling this change of tactic has to do with the fact that the committee changes structure under an official Impeachment Hearing i.e. basically becomes a Grand Jury which can take people into custody for refusing to comply with a subpoena.

I fucking hope so! ^^

Nancy is ABSOLUTELY waiting for the noose to tighten till Trump can't take the pressure any more and self- implodes. That's why she's playing the Cool-Cumber, not calling for Impeachment, so as to be seen as the Political moderate and savior when all this is done, quietly step over Trump's corpse and pick up the reigns of Government.

Barr is the worst AG ever. The Devil is going to enjoy getting ahold of him. Believe me, I know something about that.

Let him fall on his own sword.

You’ve all been getting my hopes up for two years saying the noose is tightening. Is it really this time? I hope so. That fat fucker has to be jailed.

When does Judge Merrick Garland get his revenge on these assholes. Is his ruling today?

Unfortunately Trump is so fat that a sword piercing through any vital organs would be equal to winning the lottery.

Trump claims that he doesn't do cover-ups. He fails to mention the hush money payments made before the 2016 election to silence Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal about their claims of affairs with Trump.

What with the noose tightening and his neck getting fatter all the time you'd think he'd be long dead by now.

You know, when Nancy Pelosi throws a punch ... SHE THROWS A PUNCH!

She gets under Trump's skin like no other these days.

And yet Drumpf still doesn't have a nickname for Nancy, does he?

r519 - "Why on earth would you include “terfs” in your long list of people who would grey out this thread including Russian bots, Trump fans and Log Cabin gay men? So-called “terfs” stand up for women’s liberation and the rights of gay and lesbians not to be permanently mutilated or sterilized due to TRA and MRA faddism — they are decidedly left-wing and DESPISE Trump."

Yeah, right. That's why they have appeared on panels with the Heritage Foundation and have an "embedded" feminist on the American Enterprise Institute - two of the most right wing think tanks... Peddle your bullshit somewhere else, PLEASE.

I like to imagine Donald's nickname for Nancy is "Damnit!"

Dotard views Nancy as a mommy figure. He fears her and wants her approval.

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi, or as I call her, 'Nancy'".

[quote]I like to imagine Donald's nickname for Nancy is "Damnit!"

You just know that he calls her a cunt behind closed doors. Give him time, he'll use it in public eventually.

Maybe in his deranged, little, mind, "Nancy," is the insult.

And so the noose tigthens a little more.

Nancy using the phrase "cover up" was smart. It's a call back to Nixon's cover-up. That's one way to start getting the public onside - compare him to Nixon.

The plan also seems to be to wait until he starts defying court orders. Once he thinks he can bully judges and ignore their orders, it's over for him. Nancy knows that which is probably why she's moving carefully with the "I" word.

R537 makes me think something like that could happen. Imagine if a tranche of bad stories pile up, he knows more are coming, he hasn't had a recent rally, he's tired, and a persistent reporter keeps on asking him a sharp question about cover-ups. One viral snap like that could only accelerate his downfall.

Wish-thinking, but not impossible.

And what would happen if he did publicly call Nancy that?

What would happen? Deplorables would cheer.

Other than that nothing?

[quote] You’ve all been getting my hopes up for two years saying the noose is tightening

Usually it's been tipping point, bombshell, or the beginning of the end.

I'm sure if he said "cunt" on camera, the feminists would be out in full force. Now imagine if it was Maxine and he said a second word.

[quote]he hasn't had a recent rally,

He just had one two days ago in Montoursville, PA.

Did we know this? (From Feb)

The Russian propaganda machine that tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election is now promoting the presidential aspirations of a controversial Hawaii Democrat who earlier this month declared her intention to run for president in 2020.

An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.

While some of her stances appeal to the left, she has also angered the party's liberal base with her past positions on same sex marriage, abortion and guns. Just weeks after Donald Trump's upset victory over Hillary Clinton, she met with the president-elect at Trump Tower.

r548 I remember reading around early March on DL that some people were aware, posting Rep. Gabbard's unpopular positions.

[quote] So-called “terfs” stand up for women’s liberation and the rights of gay and lesbians not to be permanently mutilated or sterilized due to TRA and MRA faddism

Have avoided trans topic threads because of the invasion of this hating and fabricating. It's popping up here.

R548, there are already two or three threads about her on DL, just posted today. Trolls . . .

R547 I dont think that was supposed to be his rally. He showed up to endorse someone else and then made it about him.

Is Tulsi Haggard this season’s Jill Stein?

Yes, Tulsi is the new Stein.

Posted at R542 then read John Santucci's tweet over in the Impromptu Meeting thread:

[quote]Senior administration sources @ABC News some aides close to President tried to stop him for marching to the Rose Garden for that event just now. Sources tell me & @KFaulders the president was mad from first thing this morning & comments by Speaker Pelosi pushed him over the edge

Tick tock...

^And she's just as happy about it as Stein was.

r551 I concluded that the more a reply employs terms like 'TERF', 'SJW', 'toxic masculinity', and 'triggered', in a one-sentence reply to a longer, nuanced paragraph, the more likely it is a paid troll's attempt to bait or divide, and the less attention it deserves.

I wonder if Hope Hicks will comply with her subpoena.

I hope so!

R559 why would she?

Impeach his ass!

Agree, the above terms are all right wing buzz words. Don’t forget virtue signaling.

All came out of the same right wing hit factory aka britbarf.

R561 beat me to it! She will ignore it like everyone else. Mueller's subpoenas were the only ones that mattered. House subpoenas? Pffft!

Yeah, those three seem to be in cahoots.

I don’t want to believe Bernie was a spy but this is what concerns me.

A lot of his actions have benefited you know who.

Even his decision to run against Hillary. And his missed sanction votes. And although I’m sympathetic to his platform, it is just extreme enough to pick off left wing votes.

It all adds up to a benefit to those who want us divided. The fascists control the left and right in those countries. And it looks like the UK as well with their compromised labor leader.

I don’t want to think that Bernie is caught up in all this. But there’s a lot of smoke. Maybe he is an unwitting accomplice.

Greenwald, Taibbi and Gabbard are compromised.

R565, I've said it a million times in the past - ANYONE connected to the 2016 Presidential campaign should NOT be involved in 2020. Poison!!!

I doubt Bernie as unwitting as he'd want people to believe.

Hope Hicks has no incentive to show up. What does she has to lose by defying it?

Does Hope have to submit to a Golden Shower from Ivanka to get a pardon?

[quote]Dotard views Nancy as a mommy figure. He fears her and wants her approval.

I can work with that.

^She already does that for free.

Shame about Avenatti.

Who's going to be the lucky guy to make him their prison bitch?

Hope Hicks is now an executive of a publicly traded company. She has also previously testified to Congress. Unless Dotard claims privilege which is also subject to court challenge, she will be wise to appear, especially if she gets a court order confirming the subpoena.

[quote] Greenwald, Taibbi and Gabbard are compromised.

I can't think of anyone working for The Intercept that wouldn't be compromised. I used to read open-source software developer and computer security engineer Micah Lee's posts until he added Greenwaldian political positions to them. Why can't privacy and data protection be nonpartisan? They are when subject matter experts not working for The Intercept write about them.

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Thanks, OP!

[quote] I can't think of anyone working for The Intercept that wouldn't be compromised.

These assholes screwed up bigtime and it cost their informant, Reality Winner, dearly.

"These assholes screwed up bigtime"

I've always had a problem identifying the main cause of harm and damage: ignorance? malice? neglect? I can't say that entities like The Intercept and the current WH administration have made it easier. I usually went with malice.

Bajour!

Russher isn't too "ept" if they are using Tulsi, a complete non-entity, as their stooge. She isn't polling above 1 or 2 per cent.

Fun Fact: Tulsi spelled backwards is "I, Slut."

Nichole Wallace on Trump "He's going to be under investigation until he takes his last breath on earth". LOL

I love Nichole Wallace.

Judge rejects Trump’s request to halt congressional subpoenas for his banking records:

Reuters: Trump loses bid to block banks from providing family's business records to Democratic lawmakers

AP: Wealthy DeVos family won't back Michigan's Amash in primary

TIME: 'Very, Very, Very Strange.' How Nancy Pelosi's Meeting With Trump Went Down

Washington Post: Unsealed court filings reveal how Mueller quickly zeroed in on Michael Cohen: Unsealed court filings reveal how Mueller quickly zeroed in on Michael Cohen

Here in West Michigan, we know the Devoses are horrible people who just like to slap their last name on buildings.

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